00:00:51.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:18.000So I've really been enjoying your remarks lately, especially on Tucker Carlson's show, when you've been talking about just the state of affairs in our country and you compared BLM Incorporated to the KKK.
00:01:36.000Because I think that is something that's a good place to start.
00:01:41.000Listen, I think if you understand the history of the KKK, and it was started shortly after the Emancipation Proclamation after the Civil War, and it was the enforcement arm basically of the Democratic Party.
00:01:58.000It violently reminded people of their duty to support the Democratic Party and Democratic policies.
00:02:09.000The KKK was promoted racial division and disharmony.
00:02:17.000And I think if the KKK were still highly active today, it would be doing a lot of the same things as Black Lives Matter, promoting racial division,
00:02:31.000using race as a dividing issue, physically intimidating people, both white and black, who don't support the Democratic Party and the ideals being promoted by the Democratic Party.
00:02:48.000You know, I had a lot of people respond back: oh, the KKK, they lynch people.
00:02:58.000That, you know, America stood up against that, and it's just not feasible to do that anymore.
00:03:06.000So, what tactics would the KKK be using if it were active today?
00:03:12.000Social media intimidation, the lynching of character, character assassination, harming people economically with violence, burning buildings, and things like that.
00:03:25.000And so, you know, I'm going to write a piece further delving into the analogy and just trying to explain to people that tactics change, but goals don't.
00:03:39.000And so, when I look at the goals of Black Lives Matter and the KKK, I see a lot of similarities and I see tactics that I believe with the KKK were as powerful as it had been, you know, 100 years ago.
00:03:53.000They're using the same tactics that Black Lives Matter does today.
00:03:58.000Including judging people just based on their skin color and their immutable characteristics.
00:04:03.000You know, Jason, I grew up in an America only about a decade ago.
00:04:07.000I know this will stun people, where the predominant kind of moral code that was taught in our high school was: your skin color does not matter, your character matters.
00:04:18.000I went to a pretty diverse high school.
00:04:20.000It was 53% English as a second language.
00:04:22.000You know, we had people from all across the world there literally represented.
00:04:27.000And, you know, kids would act immature at times, but all things being equal, it was a pretty decent place for people of all different backgrounds and skin colors to be able to quote unquote coexist and mature together.
00:04:40.000Now, the high school is a complete disaster, right?
00:04:43.000I mean, everyone's now divided based on skin color.
00:04:45.000You have white privilege seminars, and you're focusing more on skin color more than actually character.
00:04:52.000And so, can you talk about how troubling this is?
00:04:56.000And quite honestly, it seems as if we're teaching young people to care more about the melanin content in people's skin than even their character or their values.
00:05:07.000Yeah, I think that the political left has trained, told, instructed black people that our defining characteristic and most valuable characteristic is our skin color.
00:05:24.000And I think there are a lot of black people like myself who take pride in our skin color, but it is certainly not our most defining characteristic.
00:05:33.000It's not our most valuable characteristic.
00:05:36.000It's just the paint job God gave us, and we enjoy it.
00:05:41.000We're proud of it, but it does not define us.
00:05:45.000And again, what's going on today in telling black people that, oh, you're a special category of human being, we're going to capitalize your skin color, black, in newspapers and the media and the article and distinguish you from everybody else.
00:06:04.000That's like, hey, man, that's what they did 400 years ago.
00:06:07.000That's what racist slave owners and racist people did 400 years ago.
00:06:13.000And so, Charlie, I mean, you're pretty young.
00:06:19.000And what I've witnessed in my lifetime, what I was born into in 1967, a year before Dr. King was assassinated, was what felt like to me in Indianapolis, Indiana.
00:06:32.000I was born into the era of hope and promise and living up to the ideas and the culture that Dr. King and that and people of faith created through the 1950s and 60s through the civil rights movement, where I felt like I was born into a lot of hope and aspirations.
00:06:51.000And my parents told me that I could do and conquer and be anything I wanted to in America as long as I worked hard and stayed out of trouble.
00:07:00.000And now we've pivoted here in the last decade of my life where we're trying to convince kids, particularly black kids, that you stand no chance here in America.
00:07:12.000The whole thing is set up and rigged against you.
00:07:14.000How can you survive with all this racism out here?
00:07:17.000And I look back at my parents and what they overcame, what I saw them overcame.
00:07:23.000I look at the obstacles that were in the way when I was younger, and they've all been diminished significantly over the 53 years of my life.
00:07:34.000There's more opportunity to achieve here in America.
00:07:38.000People are still clamoring, black people, brown people, yellow people, and I know Asians hate to be called yellow.
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00:09:16.000We're just in just the last eight to 10 years, I've seen us make, you know, racial movements in the wrong direction, not progress, but almost regression.
00:09:27.000And we're talking about just kind of people's skin color more than ever before than actually then what matters.
00:09:33.000So I want to get into this as well, which is something that you talked about on Tucker's show, which is that the Democrats and the left, they use the tactic of calling somebody a racist as a way to almost keep themselves in political power.
00:09:46.000That's the worst thing you could be called in American society.
00:09:50.000And it's almost as if their entire party has now become a party of, we're the ones that, if you agree with us, we won't call you the R-word.
00:10:01.000Yeah, I do believe it's the foundation of their political movement at the moment is if you don't want the hassle of being called racist, say you're a liberal, say you're a part of the Democratic Party, and you won't have to go through the burden of having to prove to the world that you're not racist.
00:10:24.000And it's a pretty powerful political strategy that they talk a lot about the Southern strategy of the Republican Party.
00:10:34.000And they have catapulted over that, leaped over it, come up with an even better strategy of, because listen, the typical American, whether black or white, doesn't want to have to go out into the world and defend themselves against the allegation that you're racist, particularly when virtually any action you take, they can deem racist.
00:10:59.000And so most people don't, they care about politics, but it's really a hassle.
00:11:04.000It's something they think about every two or four years.
00:11:07.000And if all I have to do is go pull that Democratic lever and no one can call me racist, it's worth it.
00:11:12.000That's like something I don't have to deal with.
00:11:14.000I can spend that energy now focusing on my kids, on my job, on my career.
00:12:08.000It's an even greater burden to be a Republican.
00:12:12.000A lot of people just want to live their lives and not have to deal with that burden.
00:12:17.000And so they go along with the bullying from the left.
00:12:20.000Yeah, it's a really important take, and I totally agree.
00:12:24.000It's almost political extortion where if you vote for us and you put the correct things in your social media bio, we will not engage with you right now.
00:12:54.000It destroys the truth, Charlie, because the truth generally comes from friction, debate, and the ideas and truth and facts are supposed to win out.
00:13:10.000But the way we hold debates now are: if the left doesn't like your opinion, if you say, well, hold on, man, you're saying the police are kind of actively going out and just killing black people randomly in just some kind of random, wild fashion.
00:13:32.000If you say, hey, the facts don't support that, and here are the actual numbers.
00:13:38.000Here's the number of white people killed by police.
00:13:40.000Here's the number of black people killed by police.
00:13:43.000Here's the number of engagements people have with the police based on the crime level in their zip codes.
00:13:51.000And it takes engagement in order for you to have a bad or a good engagement with somebody.
00:13:57.000And so if you start pointing those things out, it's like you're racist or you're an Uncle Tom, and discussion is over.
00:14:06.000And so the facts, let's remove them all.
00:14:09.000And it's just, we have an opinion that if you don't think the police are just out systematically killing black men, unarmed black men, and we must defund the police because of it, you're a racist.
00:14:24.000They have taken us off into a farcical world devoid of logic, reason, facts, common sense.
00:14:35.000We live in a social media fantasy land where they can make up the reality and the truth.
00:14:41.000It's a dangerous place for a country to try to operate.
00:14:47.000And so I guess one of the things that bothers me most is how, and you've gone through it, of how black conservatives or black free thinkers are treated by the left and the media.
00:14:59.000And there is anyone who dares talk about the idea of personal responsibility.
00:15:04.000Maybe it's a great country and if you apply yourself correctly, you can succeed.
00:15:08.000It's almost as if you have to admit that the barriers are too much and we need massive social action and government intervention.
00:15:16.000You would think that the motivational speech, you would think that the idea that, well, look, there's problems, but if you work hard and play by the rules, you're able to succeed in this country.
00:15:26.000And it seems that all of these different incentives then kind of merge together into the, as you put it, the destruction of the pursuit of truth and also of freedom of speech.
00:15:38.000And I know you've covered sports for years, and I want to get into this because I think that there's a really interesting kind of wrinkle to this.
00:15:46.000Where I'm sure you've noticed this, ever since Joe Biden became president, I watched the NFL playoffs yesterday.
00:15:52.000I didn't notice as much social justice, BLM incorporated stuff yesterday.
00:15:57.000I saw a couple little slogans here and there, but I didn't see the same sort of paid programming advertising.
00:16:03.000I didn't see Tony Romo having to kind of mention a thing here and there.
00:16:06.000Where back in September, if my memory serves me correctly, it was a lot of BLM incorporated kind of messaging and graphics.
00:16:21.000You're catching me a bit with my pants down because I watched the first game, Green Bay and Tampa Bay, at a bar across the street from me that a friend owns.
00:16:34.000And so I wasn't as in tune with the commercial breaks as I would be if I was watching at home.
00:16:42.000And I watched the second game not as closely because it turned into a blowout.
00:16:49.000And so I somewhat agree with you that there was less of it.
00:16:54.000I'll take you at your word because I felt like all season, there was a lot of it.
00:16:59.000They were cramming it down our throats.
00:17:02.000What transpired yesterday, I'm not as in tune with as I should be just because of the way I watch those games was a bit different.
00:17:12.000Because normally I'm in tune with all of that.
00:17:14.000It's like it's bothered me all season.
00:17:19.000The Harry Edwards commercials about moving the chains and all this stuff.
00:17:24.000And it's just been over the top how much they've tried to jam this down our throat.
00:17:31.000And so another thing that has come to the news cycle in the last week is President Biden has signed an executive order allowing men who think they are women to compete in women's sports, the transgender and sports issue.
00:17:45.000Can you help unpack this in a way that a lot a lot, we got a ton of emails on this, hundreds of emails where people say, Charlie, this is wrong.
00:17:56.000I think this is one of the most egregious acts as far as going after female sports probably in history.
00:18:05.000It's something I truly just can't understand how we got here, other than to say that Jack Dorsey, who runs Twitter, founded Twitter, runs Twitter, has stated on the record that the purpose of Twitter is to amplify certain voices that they feel need to be amplified.
00:18:32.000And the transgender community, I think, has received the highest amplification by Twitter of any group.
00:18:42.000And Twitter controls American public discourse and political discourse.
00:18:49.000And Twitter's importance to political discourse is, I think people are starting to recognize it, but no one is starting to put the dots together and say, well, hold on, who is Jack Dorsey?
00:19:01.000And why is Twitter in charge of American public discourse?
00:19:11.000Is he somehow so qualified to have this much say-so on what we talk about here in America?
00:19:21.000And what are the ramifications of this?
00:19:24.000And so I don't want to denigrate the transgender community.
00:19:31.000But based off my research, it's a very small number of people who identify as an opposite sex and then want to live their lives as the opposite sex.
00:19:45.000Let's say, let's be generous and say it's 1% of the American population.
00:19:49.000I don't believe it's that high, but let's say it is that high.
00:19:53.000For that 1% of the American population, do we upturn the lives of 51% of the population?
00:20:03.000Women who are perfectly fine being women and competing in sports and competing amongst each other?
00:20:11.000Do we really upturn this whole thing to satisfy a small segment or is the better solution?
00:20:21.000Well, let's compete a third category, if necessary, of transgender men who want to be women.
00:20:29.000You can compete in sports over here amongst yourselves.
00:20:32.000I don't know if we need to put our daughters through having to compete with biologically biological men in their sports.
00:20:44.000We've spent a lot of effort developing women as athletes through Title IX.
00:20:52.000We're really going to upturn this whole thing because Jack Dorsey's social media platform has told us to.
00:21:05.000And Charlie, I've been saying this forever.
00:21:07.000There is too much power in Northern California, Silicon Valley, and where all these social media apps and all the preponderance, most of their employees are coming from living in Northern California.
00:21:23.000And those values, America's values and the whole point of view is being driven by Northern California.
00:22:38.000You say, the people wagging their fingers the hardest at Trump and Deplorables sanctioned finance and promoted political violence throughout all of 2020 and for most of the past decade.
00:22:48.000Ashley Babbitt's blood, who is the woman who died at the Capitol, is on the hands of Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg, as much as, if not more than, on President Trump's.
00:22:58.000That's why Dorsey and Zuckerberg rushed to silence Trump on their respective platforms, Twitter and Facebook.
00:23:31.000No one ever looks at Twitter and Facebook and say, well, the lies that they promote incite violence as well.
00:23:43.000And I can argue it incites a more aggressive violence than anything we see on the right.
00:23:51.000And I know that the mainstream media and social media have done a great job of making everyone feel like January 6th was a reenactment of Pearl Arbor or 9-11.
00:24:05.000I've watched a lot of video from that.
00:24:08.000And in terms of violence, it doesn't remotely compare to anything we saw over the summer.
00:24:19.000The burning of buildings, the looting of property, the death toll for police officers and other citizens, the things we see on a nightly basis in Portland and Seattle,
00:24:33.000the things we saw on the streets of Kenosha, New York, to this day going on in New York, Minneapolis, Atlanta, all over this lie that's been promoted on Facebook and Twitter and every other Silicon Valley social media app that the police are just out here randomly killing black men.
00:24:53.000And we've had celebrities as the violence is going on, as buildings are burning, as stores are being looted, as violence is taking place, we've had celebrities and a future vice president offering to pay the bail of the rioters and looters.
00:25:13.000And no one has said, hey, all of that was irresponsible.
00:25:19.000As LeBron James basically gassed people up to commit violence in reaction to George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks and Ahmaud Arbery and all no one's saying a word.
00:26:03.000The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
00:26:06.000And these men have way too much unchecked power.
00:26:12.000And they seemingly are now not just in power and in control of their companies, it's as if the government will do whatever they want them to do.
00:26:51.000My actions that are positive are driven by faith.
00:26:56.000My actions that aren't so positive are my failings.
00:27:00.000But listen, I think that my America is clearly becoming a secular nation.
00:27:09.000And we are paying an enormous toll for turning away from values that reflect the will of God.
00:27:19.000And we will not be a superpower as a secular nation.
00:27:25.000We will Be doing the bidding of China and others if we go down this path of continuing to abandon our religious principles and ideas.
00:27:41.000And it's as an African American, it's baffling to me.
00:27:45.000Our journey as black people here in America has been defined by faith and the hope and optimism, courage that faith provides.
00:27:55.000And we have tossed all of our much of our faith aside in the name of politics.
00:28:02.000And Charlie, that is where I disconnect with most people: I just think there's way too much focus on politics.
00:28:12.000And I get it now in this moment where we were watching with our own eyes in real time, our democracy and republic fall apart.
00:28:23.000I get why people have a passion for politics, but it just reinforces in my mind that I have to try my best to serve God and keep that at the focus and center of my life.
00:28:38.000Because if I look at this other stuff, I'm going to go crazy.
00:28:42.000I'm going to lose my hope and optimism.
00:28:45.000And I'm going to lose the principles and the point of views that have served me well.
00:28:52.000And so I just ask people, people in my family, people that disagree with me that I'm close to, just ask yourself the things that you're supporting, do they conflict, contradict?
00:29:10.000Are they consistent with your alleged religious views?
00:29:14.000And if they're not consistent, maybe you should ask yourself why.
00:29:18.000And start looking for allies who share your religious beliefs first rather than allies who share your political beliefs first.
00:29:32.000You would be amazed who would be your allies if you just say, does that person believe in God?
00:29:40.000And let that be the driving force rather than, does that person believe we should all have health insurance?
00:29:51.000It's because the health insurance deal that, you know, I can go either way on.
00:29:56.000The God thing is, again, I'm friends with atheists.
00:30:02.000There's no people I love, you know, close to.
00:30:05.000But I probably have a bit more respect for those who believe in God.
00:31:47.000All right, before I let you go, you tweeted something that I want you to explain where you said, no way is Brady going to win in the Super Bowl.