00:01:58.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:37.000And let's just kind of, some people have been listening to every episode we've done.
00:02:41.000Some people are going to be listening to this as their first episode.
00:02:44.000Talk a little bit, guys, about what you mean by second vote, about how the first vote you have is in the ballot box and your second vote is actually in all the products that you buy.
00:02:56.000Yeah, the well, we have several ways we say it, but yes, the first vote is in the ballot box.
00:03:01.000The second vote is with your wallet, and it is the dollar you spend or donate or invest.
00:03:10.000We can push back if we just are educated and wise in how we handle our treasure.
00:03:17.000And the left knows this, but the left is much better at boycotts and intimidation.
00:03:23.000We have a large body of conservatives and Christians that if we just pay attention to our dollars, we can make a huge difference on this radical leftist agenda that's just come to full bloom under President Biden.
00:03:38.000And Charlie, I think, you know, the important thing about this for us is that folks don't really realize until you expose this about where their dollars go to when they buy a product and how that company that they're supporting is supporting things that they would never support with their dollars.
00:03:54.000So this is a way to wake people up, give them an opportunity to know the truth, and then they can make those choices and decisions about where their dollars really go.
00:05:14.000They'd like the diversity office in the companies or these ad hoc committees or formal committees there now.
00:05:22.000But to be asking Salvation Army employees, these people who are out there ringing bells or responding to disasters to apologize for white racism.
00:05:34.000And if you don't feel like you're a white racist, then you got to apologize for everybody else who's white and is a allegedly a racist.
00:05:45.000And I don't disagree with any of what you said, although I do think we ought to take a little bit of credit for the fact that we expose them.
00:05:59.000We've got to watch them and hold them to what they've now said they're going to do and be sure they're doing it.
00:06:05.000Well, and also, just so you know, you know, one of the things about Second Vote is through our website, you can contact these organizations directly.
00:06:12.000And we've had a lot of folks and a lot of our new subscribers from your show contacting Salvation Army through our website and pushing back.
00:06:21.000And yes, I think they're hearing it from all sides, but they're definitely hearing it from your followers and the folks that are now coming to Second Vote because of you.
00:06:30.000And it was a really interesting thing.
00:06:32.000So they issued this back in the summer and no one really cared about it because the Salvation Army really ramps up near Christmas because a lot of retailers allow the Salvation Army to come and ring their bells and to collect change and money.
00:06:47.000And the people that do it are really nice and entertaining and honestly really good people.
00:06:51.000But then I think it was the Daily Wire that kind of broke the story.
00:06:55.000They went back into it and said, wait a second, now that Christmas is here, you should know about this.
00:07:01.000And at first, the Salvation Army, they held the line.
00:07:04.000And then all of a sudden they realized the massive backlash.
00:07:10.000We should celebrate in one sense where the Salvation Army saw wokeism as a charitable liability.
00:07:17.000That's a big deal because not every company is doing that.
00:07:20.000But at least in the immediate, they said, hey, if we embrace this nonsense, which they say it was like a left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.
00:07:28.000That's probably true in an organization like that, where they have this diversity committee off to the side, but a good CEO would never tolerate that.
00:07:36.000And so just talk, you want to comment on that, Mr. Black?
00:07:39.000Well, yeah, I think what's really ironic here, you know, first of all, appeasement with the radical left never works.
00:07:46.000I don't know why these people choose to do these things.
00:07:48.000I don't know if they're just trying to play nice, but you may recall that just before Target announced its transgender bathroom policy, it was the season prior that they banned all target bell ringers from in front of their stores murder to Christmas.
00:08:05.000You start dancing with the devil and you end up, it never works out well.
00:08:10.000And that's what Salvation Army has done.
00:08:13.000They have moved away from their foundational values, looking to, I guess, be relevant to the current craziness and relevant, unfortunately, in a very negative way.
00:08:38.000There's so many people that help individuals in need.
00:08:42.000And if all of a sudden, and by the way, I just want our audience to know what the Salvation Army issued was an incredibly detailed and just radical manual.
00:08:53.000This wasn't just like a tweet by some intern.
00:08:55.000This was in-depth, which it recommended readings from Ibram X. Kendi, Robin D'Angelo.
00:09:00.000It says that people must atone for their whiteness.
00:09:03.000It went even further to say that we must eliminate or challenge white culture.
00:09:52.000While many salvationists have acted firmly and courageously against racism, the Salvation Army acknowledges with regret that salvationists have sometimes shared in the sins of racism and conformed to economic, organizational, and social pressures that perpetuate racism.
00:10:10.000It says, white culture has challenges it needs to overcome, including denial of racism, defensiveness about race, and states that white Americans need to stop trying to be colorblind.
00:10:23.000And I mean, I mean, it's just, it's all about this colorblindness, which, you know, I don't think we should ignore that certain cultures have different aspects or attributes or elements.
00:10:36.000But at the end of the day, I think what this outcry is about is that we should all be Americans first.
00:10:43.000And it seems like the progressives and the Wokesters and these, you know, this word that they use, Justice Commission, it's the, this is from the Army International Social Justice Commission.
00:10:54.000And it's like, of course, we all love justice, but not like this, we don't, right?
00:11:00.000When they use those words, the last thing they're looking for is balanced justice or the kind of justice you and how we use the word.
00:11:08.000They use words in a way that sound good, but their actions are in conflict 180 degrees.
00:11:39.000This is like, I'm increasingly calling common nonsense.
00:11:43.000You know, Thomas Paine gave us common sense.
00:11:45.000This is all giving us common nonsense.
00:11:48.000Well, and so there's an article, and I don't want to celebrate this because it's actually kind of sad, but it's good in the sense that the organization realizes there's a cost.
00:11:57.000I hope the essence of this story I'm about to read is diverted resources, not withheld resources.
00:12:05.000Salvation Army facing historic toy and donation shortage ahead of the holidays.
00:12:20.000And so I could only possibly, you know, infer that the Salvation Army is now saying, like, wow, maybe we shouldn't have given some 26-year-old recent graduate from Brown all this power.
00:12:38.000Well, I will say, as an adult, I have never walked by a Salvation Army kettle without putting something in it.
00:12:44.000And I don't care how many times during the Christmas season I do that.
00:12:48.000And this news broke also, just as we were getting ready to write our annual big check to the Salvation Army, and we did not do that.
00:13:11.000Yeah, I mean, I think we've hit this one.
00:13:13.000The Salvation Army is they're not out of the woods yet, and nor should they be.
00:13:18.000I think this is a massive betrayal to its donors.
00:13:21.000And I'd say they've got a long road to come back from now.
00:13:26.000And, you know, unfortunately, it's a proud organization with a long, great history.
00:13:31.000And this should be a cautionary tale to any other organizations that think they need to give some C-suite executive $400,000 to come up with ways to ruin their brand.
00:13:43.000So unfortunately, that's the result here.
00:13:46.000And just remember, we always have a great alternative at Samaritan's Purse.
00:15:05.000But this is another example of corporate executives trying to appease the left.
00:15:12.000But the six, you imagine that, $600 million, I believe is what I read.
00:15:16.000They're going to put into this training program for all of their employees.
00:15:20.000It's just an outrageous amount of money that could be better spent on salary or wage increases or benefits or return on investment to investors.
00:15:31.000But to use the money in this form and fashion and to be telling a very large percentage of their employees that you are inherently racist.
00:15:44.000You know, it's the same story, just a different organization.
00:15:48.000And Charlie, we appreciate the fact that we can get this message out through you, where you have so many listeners that can take action.
00:15:54.000I mean, they can go on the site, they can send a message directly to CVS and let them know that they're disappointed.
00:16:01.000And I've said this before, you know, when I was previously in Congress, if we got five, ten calls on something, we knew we had a lot of angry people, and that's all it takes.
00:16:09.000It just takes a small number of people letting CVS know that they're disappointed and they're not going to shop there anymore.
00:16:59.000So I know that Walgreens gets a better score than CVS on second vote.
00:17:05.000I don't know if this is a regional thing or if this was just my own personal experience, but I, you know, I personally was never going to Walgreens to get my prescriptions.
00:17:13.000But in this instance, they would not fill it, even though I had a doctor's order, which apparently you would know better than I would, but they're not supposed to be able to override my doctors, is the way I understood it.
00:17:24.000I am surprised by so many aspects of what's going on with COVID.
00:17:32.000This is not a patient-doctor relationship.
00:17:34.000This is nothing at all of what I've been engaged in.
00:17:39.000And Diane, as a nurse, has been engaged in for all of our careers.
00:17:44.000It just, there is a political aspect to all of COVID in so many different ways that is unhealthy to the practice of medicine and to the patient-doctor sacred relationship, which we used to have.
00:18:00.000And that's been torn apart by this policies at the federal, local, and state level.
00:18:09.000And I'm sorry to learn that you had that difficulty.
00:18:12.000I know folks have been did obtain it, but people have been obtaining it by contacting doctors in other or pharmacies in other jurisdictions.
00:19:22.000And what is it with the, I mean, they are really adopting and acting as if they are a government agency, but a tyrannical government agency.
00:19:40.000Well, and Charlie can speak to this probably better than I can, but Twitter also just came out with a new user, I guess, policy that you are not allowed to now tweet that the vaccinated are capable of shedding the virus and infecting the thought crime.
00:20:00.000And as a matter of fact, somebody tweeted out that Rochelle Walensky, the CDC director, would then have to be banned from Twitter because she's tweeted the same fact.
00:20:11.000You know, again, it's, you know, I always go back to Joe Biden in Iowa during the presidential campaign, where he says, we believe in the truth, not facts.
00:20:22.000And the truth today is now what we say it is.
00:21:08.000Well, and obviously the intention behind it is either to pander to these corporations or to kind of each side has their back, if you notice that.
00:21:17.000Pfizer spends a bunch of money on Google advertising.
00:21:21.000You know, the government needs Pfizer and all the people inside for handouts.
00:21:26.000And then in kind of response, Google will censor the information that might disrupt Pfizer's profit schemes.
00:21:33.000And then they just reparlay that into advertising dollars, which is 100% deductible, as both of you know, under the U.S. tax code, right?
00:21:42.000So a lot of this is kind of an a quid pro quo, I'm going to look out for you type relationship and kind of insert it into all of that.
00:21:52.000The way that they have been able to kind of calm any criticism of their corporate dominance is largely because of their embrace of this wokeism.
00:22:04.000Is that people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders?
00:22:08.000Have you noticed they've kind of tampered down their corporate criticism in the last couple of years because they see that it's a it's a it's a um it's at least a temporary ATM or piggy bank for a lot of their left-wing social causes.
00:22:27.000But just take one step back, just so people so the audience understands the developers of the polio vaccine donated their research and their discoveries.
00:22:40.000In fact, they were quoted as saying what they developed belongs to the people.
00:22:45.000And all we see today is a big money grab that's just making big businesses bigger and richer.
00:22:53.000But absolutely, big business and big government walk hand in hand and both are dangerous.
00:23:01.000And they're especially dangerous as they get closer and closer to each other.
00:23:05.000And but that's always, it's always been true, but it's becoming more evident and it's becoming, I think, more sinister by the manner in which this is playing out.
00:24:03.000So anyways, Kyle did the Tucker, did Tucker Carlson tonight, then came on our show.
00:24:09.000And there, you know, and we covered this then, but it's a fascinating story about big tech cited in that case before the jury had made its decision.
00:24:20.000So maybe give us a little bit of the backstory there to remind our audience.
00:24:27.000Well, I mean, from day one, from day one, politicians, big, the usual suspects, and big tech convicted Kyle Rittenhouse before any trial was had, before facts were presented.
00:24:44.000Again, they believe in the truth as they present it.
00:24:48.000But as a forensic scientist, I've spent a lot of time in the courtroom.
00:24:52.000And I've never been involved in a legal case where as it played out in the courtroom, you didn't learn facts not yet understood.
00:25:04.000There could be a lot of investigation, but from the playback, from the play of the prosecutor and the defense, a picture emerges and information is revealed.
00:25:16.000But in this case, even from the beginning, the videos, unless they were redacted and tampered with, showed a pretty good case of an individual who was defending himself.
00:25:29.000But here's the jury now who gets the chance to listen to hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of testimony.
00:25:50.000I mean, I thought there's no way that this couldn't go to acquittal.
00:25:56.000But I mean, listen, we're living in 2021.
00:25:59.000We have no idea what's going to happen half the time, right?
00:26:01.000There's a lot of pressure on these juries.
00:26:05.000And yeah, it was, I think, I think it was irresponsible to allow the protests outside the courthouse, which could have been heard by the jury and probably was heard by the jury.
00:26:15.000The potential for intimidation was great.
00:26:21.000I think we should all really lift these folks up for listening to the facts and trying to reach the truth as they understood it to reach their verdict.
00:26:31.000And that gives me really confidence that not, you know, the general public for the most part is not woke.
00:26:37.000What we're seeing is these big corporations and we're seeing people with loud microphones that have the press's attention.
00:26:44.000But when you actually saw these jurors do what they needed to do, they came up with the right decision and they had a lot of pressure on them.
00:26:52.000So I'm encouraged that Middle America, the everyday person, is still awake.
00:27:04.000And we're hoping that our program helps them to find a way to get the background and to be able to articulate why it is that we all have to stand up to what's going on in this woke society.
00:27:15.000Yeah, and it really was narrative over facts.
00:27:18.000And, you know, I got to know Kyle really well.
00:27:20.000And they tried, I'm telling you, if there would have been any just sliver of path for them to put him in jail for the rest of his life, they would have taken it.
00:27:30.000And thankfully, there was exculpatory evidence that was even withheld.
00:27:35.000And it really is unfortunate that they're willing to, in some ways, offer as a living sacrifice to the woke gods, a teenager to try and fit a narrative.
00:27:47.000That's basically what Kyle became: this is going to be a simulated show trial, right?
00:27:55.000And no matter what it says, we need to get someone in jail who is of white skin color, who has a gun.
00:28:04.000And they're the ones that racialized it, by the way.
00:28:36.000I think history and what we're witnessing currently is great evidence that, again, the government coupled with big tech can try to control that narrative.
00:28:49.000Fortunately, we still live in a very free society.
00:28:53.000But we had our politicians convicting him before he was tried.
00:28:57.000We had big tech convicting him before he was tried.
00:29:16.000Twitter suspended an account that claimed Rittenhouse did nothing wrong and then censored another post claiming that Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.
00:29:25.000And then they also blocked a fundraiser via GoFundMe.
00:29:31.000And then after he was acquitted, when he didn't need his lawyers anymore, then they reinstated him and said, yeah, you can raise money now.
00:33:16.000I'm sure Wells Fargo has AI fraud protection because that's what it's for, right?
00:33:20.000There's so many ins and outs and they're trying to stop it.
00:33:23.000And I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
00:33:24.000I'm not trying to say it was centralized.
00:33:26.000But if you connect the politics of JP Morgan with that sort of chilling moment that you realize, all of a sudden you're like, there could be a moment where a conservative wakes up and you don't have access to any liquidity at all.
00:33:41.000That is one of the big motivations for second vote is that they know with money, the left understands this very well.
00:33:51.000They've been working on this for years with pushing the whole financial world to the left.
00:33:58.000There is this growing animosity towards Christians and conservatives.
00:34:02.000And I think we absolutely are going to see more and more and more of this.
00:34:49.000Eventually they have to give it back to you and you'll win all that.
00:34:53.000But if you're in a moment where you really need to pay something, for example, what if JP Morgan froze the accounts of conservatives three days before tax day?
00:35:01.000That's a big, that's a real thing, right?
00:35:03.000Sorry, your liquidity, you can't draw it out, can't pay your taxes.
00:35:09.000Yeah, no, there was the story of the little known story about AT ⁇ T basically stopped text messages from the campaign to raise money, the Trump campaign, a couple days before the election last year.
00:35:24.000I mean, so these kinds of things happen.
00:35:26.000And then you've got the Biden administration was trying to surveil bank accounts with over $600 in annual transactions.
00:35:35.000Now they backed down on that from pushback.
00:35:38.000But this is what they're trying to do.
00:35:41.000They're trying to control the levers of the financial industry.
00:35:46.000And to your point, Dr. Black, I mean, this is why it's so important to have alternatives.
00:35:51.000I know there's a number of efforts underway. to start alternative banking and financial instruments.
00:35:58.000We on the Charlie Kirk show, if you want to go to charliekirk.com slash support, we use something called Cornerstone, which is owned by Christians, which is a really great credit card processing company.
00:36:10.000But, you know, this is why alternatives are so important.
00:36:13.000This is why scoring these banks is so important and why using the platform of Second Vote to actually raise your voice together.
00:36:21.000Because not everybody is Don Jr., right?
00:36:24.000Not everybody has millions of followers on Twitter.
00:36:28.000But together with the collective voice of the Second Vote community, you can get a lot done and a lot accomplished.
00:36:36.000And just quickly, I know we want to move on, but we, one of the programs under Second Vote is a religious liberty coalition, which is looking to protect churches that may come under attack from the left.
00:36:47.000And we had one of our pastors on vacation down in Florida, and Bank of America cut off their credit cards while they were on vacation.
00:36:54.000They couldn't get access to their money.
00:36:56.000And they said, oh, we'll close out your account and send you your money in a week.
00:37:00.000But the church and the pastor could not get access to their money.
00:37:05.000Well, I just want to reiterate for our audience, secondvote.com.
00:37:08.000You could spell it out, secondvote.com or 2ndvote.com, promo code Charlie for 50% off.
00:37:14.000Everyone, buy a membership if you can.
00:37:16.000It's incredibly important to support this great organization and know where your dollars are flowing.
00:37:36.000If anybody listening right now has the one action step to do from this, it's go to Second Vote website, use the promo code Charlie, but then search for CVS and scroll down to take action, right?