The Charlie Kirk Show - Blockbuster Whistleblower Report Fuels J6 Fedsurrection Rumors with Darren Beattie and James Lindsay

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00:01:04.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie, who just dropped a wild story about a January 6th whistleblower.

00:01:10.000 Darren, welcome back to the program.

00:01:11.000 Tell us about the story.

00:01:13.000 So great to be back here, especially to talk about this breaking story.

00:01:17.000 We just published it a few seconds ago.

00:01:19.000 So it's white hot and brand new and deeply, deeply important.

00:01:25.000 So the summary of it is this.

00:01:28.000 Basically, the Biden regime, I mean, the title speaks for itself.

00:01:33.000 Biden regime's seven-year prison sentence for Green Beret January 6th whistleblower reopens festering wounds of Fed Surrection lie.

00:01:44.000 Jeremy Brown is a Green Beret, a hero who served his country admirably in many contexts, but not just a military context.

00:01:55.000 In early January, Joint Terrorism Task Force agents approached him trying to recruit him as an informant for something big that was going down in January.

00:02:08.000 Now, how these agents were aware of something big going down in January in early December is another fascinating question, but we'll set that aside for now.

00:02:18.000 The timing is very important, but please keep going.

00:02:20.000 Yeah.

00:02:21.000 Yep.

00:02:21.000 They tried to recruit him as an informant.

00:02:24.000 He says no.

00:02:25.000 He recorded the exchange and he published it as a whistleblower saying, look, they were recruiting.

00:02:31.000 There were agents in there.

00:02:32.000 January 6th is a line.

00:02:35.000 And after he did that, the feds retaliated against him, turning a misdemeanor charge that they weren't even going to charge him into into felony charges that they ultimately sentence him for seven years in prison for.

00:02:49.000 The details of this are so scandalous, such an egregious case of forget about prosecutorial discretion.

00:02:57.000 This is prosecutorial gymnastics.

00:03:00.000 The same kinds of implausible contortions that the prosecutors use to go after Trump, to go after the meme maker Doug Mackey.

00:03:09.000 We're seeing the same malicious innovations employed here in a clear case of retaliation against probably the number one January 6th whistleblower.

00:03:21.000 So the story is at the front page of Revolver.news right here.

00:03:25.000 So he was a whistleblower to whom and to when?

00:03:30.000 So walk us through that.

00:03:32.000 Right.

00:03:33.000 So as I mentioned, he was approached in early December.

00:03:37.000 They were trying to recruit him as an informant for January 6th.

00:03:40.000 He told them he was going to record the exchange.

00:03:42.000 He did record it.

00:03:44.000 And then in March, so after January 6th and March, he said, look, things are starting to look really fishy.

00:03:50.000 This whole January 6th thing, the way it went down.

00:03:53.000 And keep in mind, March was before, even before Revolver News' classic piece is opening up the Fed surrection story.

00:04:00.000 And in March, this Green Beret decided to come forward and say, Look, this doesn't look good.

00:04:06.000 It looks fishy.

00:04:07.000 I owe it to the public to expose their recruitment efforts on me.

00:04:13.000 And in the course of that exchange, they said he's just one of many people that they were going after trying to recruit.

00:04:19.000 And so he made this public and he offered his opinion that yes, there were many federal agents and informants involved in January 6th.

00:04:27.000 This was in March.

00:04:28.000 And then all of a sudden, the government decides: okay, we're going to make this guy's life hell for a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

00:04:38.000 A charge that, by the way, was freely available to them to go after Ray Epps and others, which raises the question: why didn't they?

00:04:45.000 You know, people say Epps didn't go into the Capitol.

00:04:47.000 Well, neither did Jeremy Brown, and they made his life hell over a misdemeanor charge.

00:04:53.000 But the thing is, they added a domestic terrorism investigation, which allowed them to search his house.

00:04:59.000 They found a grenade, and on the basis of that grenade, they put felony charges.

00:05:06.000 Brown maintains that the grenade was planted.

00:05:08.000 He maintains that the motivation for planting the grenade is to retaliate against him for whistleblowing.

00:05:15.000 In the course of his trial, the judge refused to even allow him to talk about this recording and whistleblowing, saying it was totally irrelevant to Jeremy Brown's stated motive for the government retaliating, which I think is pretty shocking.

00:05:32.000 So in December of 2020, he was approached and basically said, Hey, something big is happening.

00:05:39.000 Something's big is happening, and we want you to work for us.

00:05:42.000 Yeah, and so this is important.

00:05:44.000 So this ties in with the Fox News settlement with Dominion in an unrelated way.

00:05:48.000 Is it possible, Darren, that some of the narratives that were dominating the news cycle, without getting any specifics, in 2020, December were actually psyop campaigns by the government to increase the temperature and increase the outrage?

00:06:05.000 Is that possible?

00:06:06.000 Because if they knew in December 2020 that January 6th was going to be kind of this crescendo mark, were they the ones introducing this?

00:06:14.000 I mean, have we even begun to reveal if they had any federal agents in the media?

00:06:20.000 Conservative media, I mean, well, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

00:06:26.000 And there are so many secondary questions here.

00:06:29.000 There's the question here of Brown.

00:06:30.000 The case of the persecution and prosecution of Brown illustrates they could have easily charged Ray Epps with multiple things, which they didn't.

00:06:39.000 They underwent the same gymnastics not to prosecute Epps as they did to prosecute and ultimately sentence Brown to seven years.

00:06:46.000 So there's that.

00:06:47.000 There's the scandalous details of prosecutorial misconduct and contortion.

00:06:53.000 And of course, there's the question that you bring up, which is that if they had all of these agents, and this was just coming out of Tampa, this was just in Florida alone.

00:07:02.000 They were approaching tons of people.

00:07:04.000 Probably not everybody denied them in the way that Brown did.

00:07:08.000 Probably several people said yes, but it shows that Florida and militia groups were on the government's radar as early as December, early December.

00:07:18.000 They were trying to recruit.

00:07:20.000 And so, you know, all these cases of Florida, the J6 cases for seditious conspiracy, if there was any conspiracy there, the government was already on it.

00:07:30.000 They were already tracking it.

00:07:32.000 They already admitted to Brown in this recording, which is available on the revolver story.

00:07:39.000 We published the recording of the recruitment attempt as well.

00:07:44.000 They say something big is going down and they're approaching a bunch of people.

00:07:48.000 So, if they were giving that level of scrutiny to Florida alone, how do you explain that these Florida people they were looking at ended up pulling off some kind of conspiracy?

00:07:59.000 It raises so many dark and disturbing questions, even though it is specific to how they treated this whistleblower.

00:08:07.000 We are seeing more and more evidence that people within our intelligence community saw what happened in the 2020 election.

00:08:16.000 They saw the energy and they saw an opportunity to try to create a moment where they could have their agents, their instigators, to be able to get people to act uncharacteristically, like a color revolution, to be able to then justify a Patriot Act 2.0 and then be able to spread some of these messages in Operation Mockingbird to try to give the incoming regime momentum.

00:08:44.000 They're semi-fascists.

00:08:46.000 They are all these different things.

00:08:48.000 And so, so, Darren, we may never actually know, but we'll be able to get bits and pieces and hopefully be able to put the puzzle together.

00:08:57.000 You know, who was calling the shots here, right?

00:09:00.000 Because it was, is it then basically what we are coming to believe that this was Donald Trump's own government that was actively working against him again?

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00:09:16.000 Yes, I mean, and it's only in the most strict legal sense that you could call it Donald Trump's government in the sense that he was the head of the executive branch.

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00:11:11.000 All right, Darren.

00:11:11.000 So this green beret says the feds approached him in early December ahead of something big, which was January 6th.

00:11:17.000 Are there examples of people on the right of other folks getting approached by feds to recruit them before January 6th?

00:11:24.000 Let's connect the dots.

00:11:26.000 Yes, there are several examples.

00:11:29.000 One example is from the kind of famous provocateur commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, who sent out a message over parlor.

00:11:39.000 I'm not sure what the verb is.

00:11:42.000 He parled, he parlayed saying, and this was really close to January 6th.

00:11:48.000 I think it was on the 5th, maybe the 4th, saying, whatever, I'm paraphrasing, whatever they've got planned on the 6th, it's big, you know, stay the hell away, basically.

00:11:59.000 So he knew something was up.

00:12:02.000 And, you know, there have been general reports out basically confirming that the feds had contacted a lot of people.

00:12:09.000 And so he was approached.

00:12:11.000 Remember, if we could find the post, Milo had a picture of an FBI badge or a document, right?

00:12:17.000 It was like very, I don't know if you remember this or not, Darren.

00:12:20.000 It might still be on his telegram, but he was approached by agents.

00:12:24.000 Yes.

00:12:25.000 And that's my understanding.

00:12:27.000 And that's certainly a reasonable inference from the parlor message that he sent out.

00:12:33.000 So, I mean, I think the important thing to understand is this was the infiltration operation was extensive.

00:12:42.000 And as we learned from Brown, which is, you know, Milo's case was right before January 6th.

00:12:48.000 And Brown, this was early December.

00:12:51.000 You know, in early December, it's quite something that they already knew that something big was going down in January.

00:12:58.000 You know, that wasn't common knowledge.

00:12:59.000 That was before, you know, Trump was even tweeting about anything at the Capitol, before there was a rally there that was publicly established, anything.

00:13:08.000 So it's extremely bizarre, especially when you compound it with the fact that the sort of Florida Oathkeeper groups were some of the most heavily prosecuted in the seditious conspiracy cases.

00:13:24.000 But we have confirmation here that agents were tracking everything going down in Florida, including the militia groups as early as early December.

00:13:34.000 So how did they have this conspiracy like slip out of their fingers?

00:13:38.000 It raises so many bizarre questions.

00:13:41.000 And obviously, to me, since I've reported so much on EPS, it totally destroys any kind of position that, oh, the government didn't prosecute Epps because he didn't go into the Capitol.

00:13:52.000 Because in the case of Brown and the case of some others, like Mark Ibrahim, they have been charged with trespassing, but the government only charges people with trespassing if they're kind of pissed off at them for some other reason.

00:14:08.000 But in the case of Epps, he was a very egregious person who was kind of on paper exactly the kind of person that they would want to make an example of.

00:14:18.000 He was the guy in a Trump hat and a camo outfit, urging people to go into the Capitol, you know, directing people to the Capitol.

00:14:27.000 He was the former head of the Arizona chapter of the heavily prosecuted Oathkeeper.

00:14:32.000 So it just really intensifies so many pre-existing questions, open wounds of the Fed surrection lie, in addition to showing in great and personal detail exactly the lengths that the feds are willing to go to to shut up and to shut down one of the handful of people brave enough to be a whistleblower.

00:14:56.000 And I think it kind of answers the question as to why more people don't come out.

00:15:01.000 If you come out, you know, you're not going to have a very easy life.

00:15:07.000 So then what are the marching orders for this Republican Congress?

00:15:10.000 One minute remaining, Darren, to get these answers?

00:15:13.000 Because I feel as if, you know, we keep on pushing forward, but we haven't had serious people be held accountable yet.

00:15:20.000 No, there's no accountability.

00:15:22.000 It's difficult to do that.

00:15:24.000 I think that in light of recent prosecutions, we need to make political weaponization of the DOJ, prosecutorial misconduct.

00:15:35.000 That needs to be front and center of any GOP agenda because as I've said before, they've moved from shutting you up and shutting you down off of social media to prosecuting you and putting you in jail.

00:15:47.000 And that is a very dark and dangerous escalation in our march to tyranny.

00:15:53.000 Finally, tell us how things are going at Revolver.news.

00:15:55.000 Seems like you guys just keep breaking stories.

00:15:57.000 Tell us more.

00:15:58.000 Things are white hot.

00:16:00.000 I encourage everyone to go to revolver.news for this bombshell January 6th piece.

00:16:05.000 We have another piece in the works that exposes an interesting and very disturbing historical link between the trans phenomenon today and a disturbing practice in the Ottoman Empire.

00:16:18.000 So stay tuned for that.

00:16:20.000 That's coming out soon, probably this evening.

00:16:22.000 Very good.

00:16:23.000 Darren, thank you so much.

00:16:24.000 Great work as always.

00:16:25.000 We're behind you 100%.

00:16:27.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:17:32.000 Joining us now is one of my favorite people on earth, James Lindsay.

00:17:35.000 He's super smart and he's tough and he works his tail off.

00:17:39.000 The book is Marxification of Education.

00:17:41.000 You guys got to check it out.

00:17:42.000 The Marxification of Education.

00:17:44.000 James, I want to talk to you about that book, but more urgently, I want you to connect the dots because I did this sloppily yesterday.

00:17:51.000 I did my best to try to talk about how the elites, they want artificial intelligence to try to achieve the gnosis, the oneness of mind.

00:18:00.000 Can you build that out?

00:18:01.000 You're the first one to ever say that.

00:18:02.000 It makes perfect sense to me, but make it make sense to our audience.

00:18:06.000 Yeah, let's see what I can do.

00:18:07.000 It's good to see you.

00:18:09.000 The elites are trying to build, just let's just call all of BS.

00:18:13.000 The elites are trying to build God and they're trying to build God in the computer.

00:18:17.000 And so the idea is actually that what they want to do is they want to use AI.

00:18:21.000 We all know about the chat GTP or GPT, whatever the letters are.

00:18:25.000 We all know about this.

00:18:26.000 We know that it's woke.

00:18:27.000 We know that they're trying to install their values into it. 1.00

00:18:30.000 For example, somebody just sent me an example today that's, can you make a joke about women?

00:18:35.000 And it's like, oh, as an AI, I can't posit a language model.

00:18:38.000 I can't possibly, you know, make a joke about women.

00:18:40.000 That would be inappropriate.

00:18:41.000 We should be inclusive to women.

00:18:42.000 Can you make a joke about men?

00:18:43.000 And it was like, yeah, man goes to the bar and blah, It immediately makes fun of men, doesn't make fun of women.

00:18:47.000 And there are a million examples. 0.96

00:18:49.000 But can it tell you what a woman is?

00:18:51.000 That's the other question.

00:18:53.000 Well, you know, it depends on if you tell it that it has to.

00:18:56.000 It does a very bad job.

00:18:58.000 No, it's true, though.

00:18:59.000 It gives you the whole social constructivist lie that we have to consider gender roles and blah, blah, blah.

00:19:05.000 And so what they're trying to do is build out these values in the AI, which is going to, it's not just about chat, you know, programs that are going to kind of replace Wikipedia to answer questions for people to understand the world around them, which will give them misleading answers because it's woke.

00:19:20.000 Thus conditioning their minds to think in particular ways.

00:19:23.000 It will also be the way that your algorithm is tailored.

00:19:26.000 So the idea in the long run is that AI is going to become smart enough where it knows you better than you.

00:19:32.000 That's the most important idea.

00:19:34.000 And it knows the correct values that you're supposed to have.

00:19:36.000 And it knows your psychological profile.

00:19:38.000 It knows what gets you upset.

00:19:40.000 It knows what makes you happy.

00:19:41.000 It knows what makes you want to go on a spending spree at Amazon.

00:19:44.000 It knows what kind of products you're going to want to buy.

00:19:46.000 Not yet, but it's getting there.

00:19:48.000 And the idea is that the algorithm will feed you very selectively.

00:19:51.000 It'll be constantly reading your behavior, determining where you're at in your day and in your life.

00:19:56.000 And then it's going to come back and feed you the prompts that are going to get you to engage in the desired behavior or the desired thoughts.

00:20:02.000 So that everybody's going to adopt a new sustainable mindset, the new inclusive mindset.

00:20:07.000 And if it works the way that they think it's going to work, it'll be able to get into everybody's head better than any FBI propagandist or whatever else.

00:20:15.000 That's the way that they think they're going to control the population going forward in the next 10 to 20 years.

00:20:22.000 But then, but they want to try to create a collective gnosis.

00:20:27.000 What does that word mean?

00:20:28.000 And where does it come from?

00:20:30.000 So, you know, gnosis is a word that it comes from the Greek.

00:20:34.000 The word gnosis is an old Greek word.

00:20:37.000 It actually means knowledge.

00:20:38.000 And it's supposed to, in the ancient Greek, it actually just kind of means generic knowledge, but that's not the way that it got used.

00:20:45.000 There are these religious cults that were prominent before Christ, and the most famous ones were in the first and second century after Christ.

00:20:52.000 There were Christian Gnostic cults like the Valentinian cult, the Sethian cult, the Manikian cult, which was dabbled in all this kind of esoteric kind of mysticism.

00:21:02.000 And what gnosis is in those cult religions is salvation, it's saving knowledge.

00:21:10.000 It's secret knowledge mostly about who you actually are that allows you to escape the prison of reality and to merge back with God.

00:21:19.000 And so it's rather than that you in the Christian religion would take Jesus as the way, the truth, and the life and the one way back to the kingdom, it's now that you yourself, you get to know yourself on a deeper level.

00:21:32.000 You get to have enlightenment about the true nature of being and the true nature of yourself.

00:21:37.000 And when you have that, then you become not just the savior of yourself, but the savior of everybody else.

00:21:43.000 Kind of it's a model of that would be like the Buddhist idea of the so-called bodhitsava, which is this enlightened character.

00:21:50.000 He's realized the secret truth of the world.

00:21:52.000 He's enlightened, but he comes back, he reincarnates into the world to help other people get enlightened too.

00:21:58.000 In other words, he's a guru.

00:22:00.000 And that's the idea of gnosis is secret saving knowledge.

00:22:04.000 So trans people have gnosis that they were meant to be born in a different body and that the social construction should affirm and celebrate their ideas. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Feminists have gnosis that they were meant to have a particular life, but they unfortunately have a fertile uterus that ends up sometimes getting them pregnant. 0.96

00:22:20.000 And so they have to be radically religiously against abortion because it takes away the vision for their own life. 1.00

00:22:26.000 And the critical race theorists have gnosis that the world was actually constructed around white supremacy in order to uphold certain people and oppress people of color.

00:22:34.000 And this is the way that the world is organized for this kind of religion. 0.93

00:22:40.000 Marx, Karl Marx, is really responsible for dragging it into the modern era.

00:22:44.000 And this is going to be relevant to the sustainability thing because he said that the true gnosis, the true secret knowledge of humanity is that humanity, humans, are actually socialist creatures.

00:22:54.000 We're species beings.

00:22:55.000 We work for our species.

00:22:56.000 Or as Mao put it, your job is to serve the people.

00:23:00.000 And so we're not actually individuals.

00:23:02.000 We're not actually people who can have private property and individual thoughts.

00:23:06.000 We all actually are meant to serve society as socialists.

00:23:09.000 Yes.

00:23:09.000 And that's why AI plugs this in.

00:23:12.000 That's exactly right.

00:23:12.000 That's right.

00:23:13.000 So your goal, whether it's Marxism, whether it's queer theory, whether it's, you know, Paulo Ferrere with the Marxification of Education, he says it explicitly is to die and be reborn into the correct value system.

00:23:24.000 Yes.

00:23:25.000 And that correct value system is salvific.

00:23:27.000 No.

00:23:28.000 It's going to save humanity.

00:23:29.000 Are they that explicit to take Christian theology and just repurpose it?

00:23:34.000 I mean, is it by mistake or is it by, I mean, is there an intention behind that?

00:23:40.000 I mean, I don't, Marx certainly was rejecting and rebelling against Christianity.

00:23:44.000 But if we look at from the World Economic Forum much more recently, if we look at Yuval Noah Harari, who is their historian that's pretending to be their big scientific futurist, he said that their goal with all of this is to build the new Noah's Ark, where the people who are elect and enlightened are going to get to go in the kind of computer.

00:24:02.000 Well, that implies that there's a flood coming.

00:24:05.000 That's right.

00:24:06.000 Well, it's going to be the climate change flood, is I think the one he's referring to, but there's going to be a massive destruction of everybody who's not elect, and everybody who has the secret salvific knowledge is going to get to go off.

00:24:17.000 And he says it's a digital Noah's Ark.

00:24:20.000 We're going to upload consciousness and so on.

00:24:21.000 But when you ask, are they so brazen as to repurpose Christian theology? 0.63

00:24:25.000 He called it a Noah's Ark.

00:24:27.000 I mean, very explicitly, they know what they're doing.

00:24:27.000 Yes.

00:24:31.000 He's a Jew, but yeah, no, that's right. 1.00

00:24:33.000 That's central Jewish theology is correct. 0.99

00:24:37.000 Yeah.

00:24:38.000 And so their idea is, though, I mean, in these Gnostic religions, the goal is actually that humans are the third person of the Godhead, not the Holy Spirit.

00:24:47.000 And the mind of God is the second person, not Christ.

00:24:50.000 And God Himself, the undifferentiated all, is the first person of the Godhead, very much actually like Christianity. 0.96

00:24:57.000 And so you've got these two other ideas.

00:24:59.000 So the goal is that first you must realize that you as a human being are the third person of the Godhead.

00:25:06.000 You are inseparable from God.

00:25:08.000 That's what enlightenment in Buddhism would be about, is that you are the same as the divine.

00:25:12.000 That's what the namaste in yoga or in Hindu thought is.

00:25:17.000 The divine in me recognizes the divine in you is a translation of that.

00:25:21.000 The idea is that you recognize that you, in fact, are continuous with the divine.

00:25:26.000 You are a fragment of the divine that only thinks you're separate, that only believes through the falseness of the distinctions of the world that you're separate.

00:25:34.000 And so what you're supposed to do is then raise your consciousness to the level of a Christ consciousness.

00:25:39.000 You are to merge back with the mind of God.

00:25:41.000 That's the gnosis.

00:25:42.000 And then you self-beget.

00:25:44.000 And you see this very explicitly with trans. 0.63

00:25:46.000 They are literally self-begetting.

00:25:48.000 They're making themselves into the vehicle that they think they were meant to be born into that they weren't.

00:25:53.000 And then when you achieve that, then you're in the position in the Gnostic faiths to be able to remerge with God. 0.67

00:25:58.000 And so what we have with AI is they have the belief that they can build this out through digital means and get everybody to share the same mind.

00:26:07.000 And as it's put, say, in Paulo Ferreri's book from 1984 is called The Politics of Education.

00:26:12.000 And the foreword to that book by an educator called Henry Giroux, he brags.

00:26:16.000 He says that Paulo Freire has a truly utopian prophetic vision for education and the future of humanity.

00:26:23.000 And he says that it's prophetic.

00:26:25.000 He explicitly says this, in that it calls us to build the kingdom of God here on earth.

00:26:30.000 That's what he, that's the direct quote.

00:26:32.000 That's what they think they're doing.

00:26:33.000 So if we have our secret knowledge about how the world's supposed to be as a socialist utopia, and we build it out that way by handing all the power over to the state, and the state manifests this in physical reality, then we've rebuilt the kingdom of God.

00:26:47.000 This is the whole ballgame.

00:26:48.000 So not only is AI potentially apocalyptic because it could go out of its way, but it's actually more apocalyptic if it does what it's actually programmed to do.

00:26:58.000 It's meant to immatize the escaton, as it's been said, to bring about the end of the world, the end of history specifically.

00:26:58.000 That's right.

00:27:05.000 Yes.

00:27:06.000 So that we all become one humanity with one mind working together for a more sustainable and inclusive future. 0.73

00:27:14.000 And slight problem, these people are awful and they're evil and their idea is really bad.

00:27:22.000 And so what we must understand is that, how do I put this in a way to summarize that?

00:27:28.000 Artificial intelligence is a means to the end that we always feared.

00:27:32.000 It's an accelerant, right?

00:27:34.000 It's the best way to put it.

00:27:36.000 It is an exponent because people wonder, oh, Charlie, are we going to go to socialism or globalism?

00:27:41.000 They look at artificial intelligence as a way to make the process, to do the work, to go through the dialectic in a shorter period of time.

00:27:51.000 Is that fair?

00:27:53.000 That's right.

00:27:53.000 And with absolute authority.

00:27:55.000 Who could possibly question a super intelligent computer?

00:27:58.000 It's inherently totalitarian.

00:28:00.000 Yes, that's right.

00:28:01.000 That's exactly right.

00:28:01.000 That's right.

00:28:03.000 We need to talk about.

00:28:04.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:28:05.000 Please, please continue.

00:28:06.000 It's demonic.

00:28:07.000 It's obviously demonic.

00:28:10.000 It's totally demonic.

00:28:11.000 Of course it is.

00:28:12.000 And I mean, tell me why.

00:28:15.000 I mean, you're not a Christian yet.

00:28:17.000 I'm still working on that.

00:28:18.000 But tell me why would it be demonic one minute remaining?

00:28:22.000 Well, the object of the whole kind of satanic and demonic project is to elevate yourself to the position of the creator.

00:28:29.000 And that's exactly what their project is.

00:28:32.000 And of course, to do so through this perverse means where it's going to be the con everything's always in conflict.

00:28:37.000 Everybody's got the wrong attitude.

00:28:38.000 And we're going to force people to believe that, you know, particularly Lori, this is demon possession kind of stuff.

00:28:43.000 Jeez, man.

00:28:44.000 And what's remarkable is how unprepared I think most people are ideologically and philosophically for this.

00:28:53.000 And so we're going to talk about it.

00:28:54.000 It ties with your book that I want everyone to buy.

00:28:57.000 Put it up on the screen.

00:28:58.000 The Marxification of Education.

00:29:00.000 It's so good.

00:29:02.000 Paulo?

00:29:03.000 Yeah, Paulo Fieri's critical Marxism.

00:29:06.000 I'm getting my eyes fixed.

00:29:06.000 I thought it was Pablo.

00:29:07.000 Don't worry.

00:29:08.000 That's imminent.

00:29:10.000 And The Theft of Education.

00:29:11.000 And what a powerful cover.

00:29:14.000 Wow.

00:29:14.000 With the sickle and the hammer right there at the middle.

00:29:16.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:29:17.000 Very powerful and really accurate way to summarize that.

00:29:23.000 So, James, just riff on your book, The Marxification of Education.

00:29:27.000 Well, I mean, American education has been stolen.

00:29:29.000 What I say in the book is your children go to Paulo Ferreri's schools.

00:29:32.000 And you probably haven't heard of Paulo Ferrari, but he is the missing link between all of the critical theorists and woke.

00:29:40.000 How did we get here?

00:29:41.000 The answer is actually Paulo Ferreri.

00:29:43.000 He created an educational program where political education is the true education.

00:29:48.000 You use the academic lesson as an excuse to have political conversations with kids.

00:29:53.000 And the point of those political conversations is to teach them to denounce everything in the world that they see around them in the hope that a better world might emerge.

00:30:01.000 James has a very impressive roster of books, including Race Marxism.

00:30:06.000 You know, James, somebody asked me the other day, because I was so upset that one woman couldn't answer it.

00:30:12.000 But you have the best answer.

00:30:13.000 I stole it from you.

00:30:14.000 Just right from you.

00:30:15.000 They say, what is woke?

00:30:16.000 I say, call everything racist till you control it.

00:30:19.000 Boom.

00:30:19.000 Yeah, that's basically it.

00:30:20.000 That's right.

00:30:21.000 It's basically the whole deal.

00:30:23.000 So explain to us how the trans movement, the trans social contagion plays into the Marxification of our country. 0.88

00:30:35.000 People are not always able to connect those dots.

00:30:38.000 Please do so.

00:30:40.000 Sure.

00:30:40.000 I mean, I'll start a little bit further back with what's called queer theory.

00:30:44.000 You and I talked about queer theory.

00:30:45.000 I think one of the first public conversations that happened was you and me on stage about queer theory.

00:30:50.000 And I think I said that it opens the gates to hell or something.

00:30:52.000 I like good stuff.

00:30:53.000 Which is true.

00:30:54.000 It's true.

00:30:55.000 But so in queer theory, what you are actually dealing with is literally a Marxist theory.

00:31:01.000 It is the idea that instead of private property, like, you know, factories or hammers and sickles or whatever it happens to be, people own a kind of private property called being normal.

00:31:11.000 And outside of normal is being queer. 0.99

00:31:13.000 And so people who, who gets to define what's normal?

00:31:16.000 Well, normal people, people who consider themselves normal.

00:31:18.000 So they think that being normal and being, if you're a child, childhood innocence, et cetera, that this is a socially constructed phenomenon.

00:31:25.000 It has nothing to do with reality.

00:31:27.000 It has nothing to do with the way that human beings are actually constructed or created.

00:31:32.000 It's actually just arbitrary in that certain people set themselves up to be the bourgeoisie of the normal population so that they could exclude the weirdos and the perverts and the freaks and the demons or whatever else.

00:31:46.000 The groomers in particular, yes, very much so.

00:31:48.000 We're seeing that what the United Nations just put out this thing saying we should decriminalize pedophilia if the child consents, but children can't consent.

00:31:56.000 So they think that's just up for grabs and socially constructed too.

00:31:59.000 And so you have a Marxist theory of what it means to be considered within the normal boundaries of society.

00:32:05.000 And what they're doing is creating these trans and queer activists to go out and destroy, or as Marx would say, abolish normalcy. 1.00

00:32:13.000 So everything that's normal, everything that's good has to be called into question.

00:32:17.000 It has to be deconstructed.

00:32:18.000 It has to be, in their word, queered as a verb.

00:32:21.000 It has to be resisted on principle.

00:32:24.000 The definition, in fact, of queer, and it comes from a book from 1995 by David Halperin.

00:32:29.000 It's called Saint Foucault, is the name of the book.

00:32:32.000 He says that queer is defined.

00:32:35.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:35.000 He's holding him up as a saint.

00:32:37.000 That's what he's actually doing.

00:32:38.000 He's trying to create a way.

00:32:40.000 You want to talk about a pervert, but that's a separate issue.

00:32:42.000 But yes. 1.00

00:32:42.000 So he's a total pervert, a total pervert. 1.00

00:32:44.000 And he says that queer is an identity without an essence because it is a purely oppositional identity. 0.98

00:32:51.000 It's an identity designed to oppose anything considered normative, anything considered normal, any social expectations, and to throw them basically under the bus to try to destroy them.

00:33:02.000 So what you have then, in a very kind of Maoist way, to switch from Marx to Mao, Mao, a lot of people don't know, used identity politics in the Cultural Revolution to destroy China.

00:33:14.000 He knew that if he separated the population into good identities and bad identities, and he created five of each, that he could pressure the people that had bad identities.

00:33:23.000 Maybe your grandfather owned land.

00:33:25.000 He was a farmer and owned land.

00:33:26.000 Well, that's a bad identity.

00:33:27.000 So you, as a kid, get bad identity as a result.

00:33:30.000 Well, in America today, we have critical race theory saying that if you were born white or if you're straight or whatever else, you have these bad identities.

00:33:37.000 But if you become queer or transition as kind of the ultimate physical expression of that, because that's permanent damage to you, then you get to have a good identity. 0.98

00:33:46.000 We're going to celebrate you.

00:33:47.000 We're going to affirm you.

00:33:48.000 And what they're building out is a youth that operates like Mao's Red Guard.

00:33:52.000 We could, I guess, call it a Rainbow Guard.

00:33:54.000 We could call it a Red Guard.

00:33:55.000 Ultimate Mafia.

00:33:56.000 I love Rainbow Guard.

00:33:58.000 I'm stealing that.

00:33:59.000 Keep going.

00:34:00.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 So, and look at what they do.

00:34:02.000 We have, for example, a trans person in Tennessee a couple of weeks ago murdering six Christians at a Christian school, three of whom are nine-year-old children.

00:34:11.000 Yes.

00:34:11.000 And then a deliberate attack on Christianity because it's a competing religion.

00:34:16.000 Christianity says that you can only possibly, you know, the way the truth and life is only possible in Jesus.

00:34:23.000 Renewal, rebirth, being born again is only possible through the Holy Spirit, through acceptance of Christ.

00:34:29.000 And no, they're becoming their own Christ.

00:34:32.000 They're saving themselves and their Gnostic Hermetic religion. 0.97

00:34:35.000 And so Christianity is a major problem from them. 1.00

00:34:38.000 So this attack happens.

00:34:39.000 And what happens?

00:34:40.000 You have all these people pour out into the streets, young people, particularly, college students, high school students, stepping out of school.

00:34:47.000 They march down to the state house, and there were six victims of the shooting and one murderer who died in the end.

00:34:53.000 And how many fingers do they hold up?

00:34:54.000 Seven.

00:34:54.000 There are seven victims.

00:34:56.000 So they bring this first time in American history.

00:34:58.000 We have a mass murderer who gets turned into the victim who gets turned into within a couple of days.

00:35:04.000 They flip the whole thing over.

00:35:06.000 And now it's about these other people and it's about trans rights or human rights.

00:35:10.000 And everybody's marching and saying that, you know, we have to have, even though the trans that there's so much trans violence, we now have to hold up. 0.69

00:35:17.000 That's because the society won't let them have what they want.

00:35:20.000 And it's the society's fault and they're the real victims.

00:35:23.000 And you can see how it plays out.

00:35:24.000 It's the red guard all over again.

00:35:26.000 James, come back next week.

00:35:27.000 Our audience is loving this.

00:35:28.000 It's off the charts.

00:35:29.000 People are emailing us.

00:35:30.000 And so, Mark's vacation of education.

00:35:32.000 Go buy James's book.

00:35:33.000 We're going to have James back whenever we can get our schedules to align.

00:35:36.000 He's tough and he's brilliant and he really, really cares about truth.

00:35:40.000 James, thank you so much.

00:35:43.000 Good to see you, Charlie.

00:35:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:45.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:49.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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