The Charlie Kirk Show - Blocked Shots with Alex Berenson and Russ Vought

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Russ Vogt joins us to explain the latest with Trump's personnel.

00:00:08.000 What's he going to do if he gets another term with his personnel?

00:00:11.000 And also, the great failure of the right, I think, has been our handling of the Russia gate.

00:00:16.000 Very disappointing what's been happening here.

00:00:17.000 For the record, I've been a cynic on this topic the entire time, and I hate that I was right.

00:00:23.000 Then Alex Berenson weighs in on middle schoolers in Seattle that are given time and space to do hard drugs during school, and also a middle schoolers that are trained to have to administer a form of drug rehabilitation overdose treatment if a middle school friend might overdose at school.

00:00:41.000 Not a joke.

00:00:42.000 And also talking about the COVID vaccination.

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00:01:50.000 With us right now is Russ Vogt.

00:01:52.000 Russ, welcome back to the program.

00:01:55.000 You do a wonderful job with the Center for Renewing America.

00:01:59.000 So, Russ, you're going to have to help me out with something.

00:02:02.000 Yesterday was just kind of the latest chapter in some of the most disheartening news that I have received around the Igor Danchenko trial.

00:02:12.000 And I'm incensed about the entire thing.

00:02:15.000 And I believe that RussiaGate has been one of the great failures of the right of the last five years.

00:02:22.000 What are your thoughts?

00:02:24.000 I agree with that.

00:02:25.000 And I think that it's unconscionable the extent to which we have not had more success in the prosecutions and also the extent to which the American public still right now, majorities don't know the basic tenets of what happened with the Russian hoax, the national security apparatus.

00:02:42.000 They get that something is very, very wrong.

00:02:45.000 60% of them support what we have called for in terms of a church-style committee, an institution with 150 investigators to be able to go and really understand fully and prove to the American people that we have a problem that needs to be fundamentally overhauled.

00:03:01.000 I like to believe that the FBI needs to be reformed extensively, broken up, defunded, moved their authorities around.

00:03:10.000 But it's not just the FBI, and that's why it requires a select committee because this is the Intel community.

00:03:16.000 It's portions of DHS, it's portions of DOD.

00:03:20.000 We need to get our full arms wrapped around this.

00:03:22.000 And we're only scratching the surface based on what has come up.

00:03:26.000 And that's where we need to get serious and to draw on history.

00:03:30.000 And when we talk about a church committee, we're not talking about what most people might think when they're coming from a position of faith.

00:03:37.000 We're referring to a specific historical reference point in the 1970s.

00:03:41.000 Senator Frank Church, his committee that really brought the FBI and CIA to its knees for a period of time.

00:03:49.000 The reforms were not enduring, but that's the model.

00:03:52.000 And if we have a Republican majority, it can be done without the Senate.

00:03:55.000 It can be done without the Biden administration.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, so then there was a House equivalent, the Pike Committee.

00:04:01.000 And this is, again, on the right, people don't like talking about this.

00:04:05.000 But what we learned in those committees, heart attack guns, mass manipulation, the takeover of American media with Operation Mockingbird.

00:04:15.000 And now that stuff gets called conspiracy theories.

00:04:17.000 I think it would be actually very interesting to just re-educate the American population.

00:04:22.000 What did we learn the last time we investigated our intelligence agencies?

00:04:28.000 What prompted it, though?

00:04:30.000 What were the leading events that made Senator Church want to do this?

00:04:37.000 Yeah, there was a number of things, but there was reports, there were news articles about the extent to which the CIA was over their skis in ordering assassinations of other foreign leaders.

00:04:50.000 There was a lot of news reports as it pertains to what the FBI and CIA were doing to be able to go after political enemies of various administrations.

00:05:01.000 And that just became debubble.

00:05:02.000 And, you know, we were in the aftermath of Vietnam.

00:05:06.000 So there was certainly the country was divided.

00:05:08.000 And there was a couple of specific news articles, Seymour Hirsch being one of them, that led to this, the desire, the need to set up a select committee, at least in the Senate.

00:05:22.000 And then the Pike Committee came in the House.

00:05:24.000 The Senate committee was more successful for various reasons.

00:05:27.000 And this was something that for two years, and they really kind of put themselves on a clock.

00:05:31.000 I think that's one way that we would change this, is that they were racing against their own clock to be able to put something in front of the country about the problems.

00:05:40.000 But they came up with enormous revelations.

00:05:42.000 You just named them.

00:05:45.000 Counterintelligence program, the extent to which the CIA had biological weapons.

00:05:52.000 These are not conspiracy theorists.

00:05:54.000 These are things that were documented.

00:05:56.000 And we've only taken those agencies and we've gone from A to Z in terms of the increasingly sophistication of what they can do and the extent to which we don't have a clear sense anymore of how they do it because it's so enveloped within the national security apparatus.

00:06:15.000 We're on the other side of 9-11, in which for two decades, there has been a call to keep the country safe.

00:06:21.000 And so that's totally legitimate.

00:06:23.000 But we've got to peel back the layers to really figure out institutionally, beyond just the bad actors, institutionally, what are the processes that are in place and deconstruct those processes?

00:06:34.000 That's what I'm most interested in, in addition to figuring out how to lay it at the feet of those who deserve to be punished and held accountable.

00:06:42.000 Yeah, I mean, let's just use one example, right?

00:06:44.000 So MK Ultra was one of the things we learned in the church committee, which was an illegal human experimentation program done by the United States government's central intelligence agency intended to develop procedures and identify drugs that could be used in interrogations to weaken individuals and force conventions, confessions, through brainwashing and psychological torture. 0.74

00:07:08.000 That was also preceded by Project Artichoke, which was in the 1950s, which was forced hypnosis, forced morphine addiction on American citizens to give them LSD to produce amnesia to be able to give them specific confessions and actions.

00:07:28.000 Now, let me just say this as carefully as I can.

00:07:31.000 That was the 1960s.

00:07:33.000 What do you think they're doing now, Russ?

00:07:36.000 Exactly.

00:07:37.000 And I mean, you know, the extent to which there was this trust in the 60s of our institutions, we're not in the 60s anymore in terms of the degree to which the sophistication of our agencies, What they can accomplish digitally in terms of spying on the country.

00:07:56.000 That's why it can't just be the FBI.

00:07:58.000 It has to include agencies like the NSA and CIA and DHS that's going around and saying that people who care about election integrity and poll watchers are somehow setting themselves up to be domestic terrorism.

00:08:13.000 It's extensive.

00:08:14.000 We need to prove it to the American people and have the full weight of the government going at an oversight capacity and to set up the reforms that we can do on a day one of the next administration.

00:08:26.000 It can't just be hearings.

00:08:27.000 It has to be investigations, an army of investigators that lead to firm convictions that the country supports to be able to do on day one so that the next president, like President Trump had, he didn't have half of his government constantly warring against him on a day and day basis, the national security apparatus trying to do a coup d'état, and the EPA and the other policy agencies just, you know, trying to go against everything that came out of his mouth.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, and then no one gets held accountable, right?

00:08:57.000 So Danchenko walks, Sussman walks, Durham kind of just puts his hands up and I guess says, well, I tried everybody.

00:09:05.000 And I mean, the Russiagate buildup, the amount of media attention, when we've talked about it, all warranted, by the way, very important.

00:09:12.000 And basically, no one gets held accountable for any of it.

00:09:16.000 What I want to ask you, Russ, in the next segment is how is this going to work if it's Trump as president or whomever?

00:09:23.000 Because this is what your whole organization is focused on, right?

00:09:26.000 You're focused on Schedule F and personnel, because as Morton Blackwell would say, personnel is policy.

00:09:32.000 I'm sure you've heard that before.

00:09:33.000 I don't know if he came up with it or if he popularized it, but it's just true. 1.00

00:09:37.000 And I talk to a lot of Trump voters.

00:09:40.000 We have a lot in our audience right now.

00:09:42.000 We get a lot of emails from them.

00:09:44.000 And the one thing that they say that they just can't understand is why were there so many snakes and so many bad actors in the Trump administration?

00:09:53.000 How did that happen?

00:09:54.000 And then how do we go about fixing it?

00:09:56.000 I have to ask: you know, if Donald Trump were to run in 2024, what is the assuredness that we can give people or the assurances, I guess I should say, we can give people that he'll pick good people this time?

00:10:10.000 Because I think if there were to be a primary challenge against Trump, I think he'd handle it rather easily.

00:10:15.000 But that would definitely be a critique I think that he would have to navigate.

00:10:18.000 Do you agree?

00:10:19.000 I think so.

00:10:20.000 And I think it's something that he's acknowledged and has also was changing as in his first four years.

00:10:26.000 The nominations, the people that he was relying on over the last year, last year and a half, were very much people that shared his America First perspective.

00:10:37.000 And I remember an occasion which I was getting sworn in and he said, Russ, you know, we just need another four years because we're just learning how to fit our hands into the glove and do this and to govern with the vigor and the confidence that comes with having the know-how.

00:10:54.000 And, you know, that's, I was someone that came with a big budget background.

00:11:00.000 My mentor had been deputy at OMB, and yet it took me a long time to figure out how to OMB worked and to be able to fully put my hand in a glove and wield it on behalf of the president of the United States.

00:11:10.000 And we need those people who share the America First perspective and are supportive of Donald Trump and are not going to take everything that he says and try to twist it into something that aligns with some caricature they heard on Morning Joe in the morning.

00:11:25.000 They shouldn't even be watching Morning Joe.

00:11:27.000 I mean, so he, he or whoever is is the president of the United States needs a team that has the paradigms that are necessary and knows how to run these agencies.

00:11:39.000 And I just want to mention that one word, Charlie, paradigms.

00:11:43.000 Paradigms need to be shattered.

00:11:45.000 If you just look at, you know, what you, here's the box that you're living in, but you haven't looked historically about what can be accomplished, about when these precedents were established, all of a sudden DC wants to constrict your freedom of action.

00:11:58.000 You've got to break those paradigms.

00:12:00.000 And that's why I'm such a big supporter of President Trump is because he has always been someone that shatters through these paradigms and allows you to get back to what I call radical constitutionalism.

00:12:11.000 What did the founders actually intend with the words of the Constitution?

00:12:15.000 Not just the, but how would they have operated in the Constitution?

00:12:20.000 How would they have responded to the encroachments of other branches?

00:12:23.000 And if you don't shatter those paradigms, and if you don't have people that have thought through this and read historically to figure out what great leaders in the past have done, we're going to continue to be in a world of hurt.

00:12:35.000 And I think that will change.

00:12:37.000 And I think that is something that will be evident on day one of a new administration.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, I think that's really smart.

00:12:43.000 And I mean, from day one, we have to make sure that the lobbyists and the trial lawyers, I guess the question don't get in.

00:12:49.000 I guess the question is, is there enough good people, the staff of government?

00:12:52.000 Well, I hope so.

00:12:54.000 And I think there's a lot of organizations that are going to be working on that.

00:12:58.000 And we are allied with all of them.

00:13:00.000 But I think that our job at our center has to be to make those paradigms and those new ways of thinking it.

00:13:07.000 And what does the law allow?

00:13:10.000 We have to make it such a national issue that it allows us to spread the field and to be able to take people that, you know, are very supportive of President Trump or whoever is the nominee or the election, the president, and to put them in a position where they don't feel like, oh my gosh, this is something that is not credible.

00:13:34.000 We've got to make it credible over the next two years.

00:13:36.000 And that's what we believe is our assignment in being prepared for the next administration.

00:13:42.000 Yeah, it's personnel is policy, as we said before.

00:13:44.000 Russ, thank you so much for joining us, Center for Renewing America.

00:13:47.000 Great job.

00:13:47.000 Thank you so much.

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00:15:14.000 So the Wall Street Journal is finally following our lead here, where we've been saying for quite some time that Hispanic and Latino voters are going in the right direction very, very quickly.

00:15:28.000 Democrats are in trouble with Hispanics.

00:15:30.000 Wall Street Journal William Galston writes: Republican gains among Hispanic voters have generated a wave of concern among Democrat strategists.

00:15:38.000 In 2020, Trump received 38% of the Hispanic vote compared to 28% in 2016.

00:15:44.000 Much better than Willard Mitt Romney.

00:15:46.000 It's funny how the guy who talks about immigration and culture and language actually does better.

00:15:49.000 It's interesting how that works.

00:15:51.000 Maybe all of those Republican consultants that talk endlessly on television have no idea what they're talking about.

00:15:57.000 Mr. Trump's share rose to 46% from 35%, and in Texas to 41% from 31%.

00:16:05.000 He made very large gains in other states as well.

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00:16:20.000 Can we put up the images?

00:16:21.000 Where this is all across the country, actually focused in Arizona, where we're putting up billboards specifically targeted towards the Hispanic community.

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00:16:42.000 Not as if we're not doing too much at Turning Point, but these billboards, you're going to see them all across the Phoenix Valley area, and we have got to do the messaging.

00:16:49.000 I do not trust the Republican Party to bring home a victory in Arizona.

00:16:55.000 So, Turning Point Action and Turning Point Pack, we're going to do everything we possibly can to try to bring it across the finish line.

00:17:02.000 And so, very, very happy about that and the work we're doing.

00:17:05.000 Okay, I want to play a couple pieces of tape here, and hopefully, momentarily, we'll be joined by Alex Berenson, who is just great.

00:17:13.000 Let's go to Cut 39.

00:17:15.000 Seattle Middle School now has a harm reduction policy that allows students to use hard drugs.

00:17:21.000 Two students explain how they're not allowed to go to the bathroom during certain times because they're now taught because they're being taught how to administer certain drugs.

00:17:31.000 So, basically, with the trans issue, the drug issue, the normal people, the people that do not suffer from mental illnesses or from drug addiction, have to accommodate their behavior of a vast minority that pretends to be oppressed. 0.96

00:17:45.000 Play Cut 39.

00:17:46.000 So, Ava, tell me about what you've heard about people learning how to administer Narcan to like revive someone if they're having a drug overdose.

00:17:56.000 I mean, I think it's a good, I think it's a good life school to know, but you shouldn't be having to do it to your own classmates.

00:18:06.000 Yeah, so our bathroom breaks are changing.

00:18:08.000 We can't go to the bathroom between 10 minutes after or before, after or before school or classes because people are skipping and doing drugs in the bathroom.

00:18:21.000 Yeah, and the middle school knows it, and the middle school condones it.

00:18:24.000 So, this is a Seattle middle school where they are, they have times allotted for the kids to go into the bathroom to go do hard drugs.

00:18:35.000 That, what is the name of that Seattle middle school?

00:18:37.000 We can get the name of it.

00:18:39.000 And by the way, yeah, I mean, if to be consistent, if they can terminate babies in the womb and if they can, you know, throw off their genitals, why can't they do hard drugs in school? 0.63

00:18:49.000 Who are you?

00:18:49.000 What are you a bigot?

00:18:50.000 What are you anti-regionophobe?

00:18:53.000 Are you afraid of heroin being done in schools? 0.86

00:18:55.000 You're a bigot.

00:18:57.000 It's the new normal in Seattle where the normal kids can't go into the bathroom because the school allows kids to potentially overdose.

00:19:06.000 Alex Berenson is here.

00:19:07.000 Alex, you've written extensively about the drug issue.

00:19:09.000 I know we're not here to talk about that.

00:19:10.000 Just what's your immediate reaction on that story that in a middle school in Seattle, they have allotted times for kids to go do hard drugs?

00:19:18.000 I mean, I think it's the same reaction any parent or any person would have.

00:19:21.000 It's insane.

00:19:23.000 You know, we've moved to legalize cannabis in this country, and the early returns are terrible, in my opinion.

00:19:32.000 And instead of learning from that lesson, we are now, you know, the same people who pushed that are pushing the legalization of psilocybin, mushrooms, and other psychedelics.

00:19:44.000 And it's only a matter of time before some of these people try to decriminalize or possibly even legalize heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine.

00:19:52.000 I mean, they've indicated that's where they want to go with this.

00:19:56.000 And the reality of the devastation it causes doesn't seem to bother them.

00:20:00.000 It's very, you know, it's this sort of liberal/slash libertarian meld that I just don't understand.

00:20:07.000 Yeah.

00:20:07.000 And by the way, they're the same people that want to use the FBI to go after political dissidents or kick you off social media, right?

00:20:13.000 So it's this strange kind of mixture of anarcho-tyranny where you could do whatever drug you want in the street, but if you're Alex Berenson, we're going to kick you off Twitter immediately for saying something.

00:20:24.000 That's right.

00:20:26.000 Speech is violence, but violence is not violence.

00:20:29.000 It's very strange.

00:20:30.000 This is the world we're living in.

00:20:32.000 This is a Seattle middle school for children.

00:20:35.000 They're 12, 13, and 14 year olds, where there's times in the bathroom where they allow a kind of a venue for children to go do hard drugs.

00:20:43.000 That's where we're at in America today.

00:20:45.000 If you dare disagree, you're a bigot.

00:20:46.000 Okay.

00:20:47.000 And by the way, they also teach their fellow classmates.

00:20:49.000 As she said, she said, Yeah, I just, to be able to administer narcane, I just don't want to have to do it to my classmate.

00:20:55.000 I mean, that's an opioid recovery drug, isn't it, Alex?

00:20:57.000 I mean, it is.

00:20:59.000 It's used.

00:21:00.000 Well, it's not really a recovery.

00:21:01.000 It's used in overdose to reverse.

00:21:04.000 This is in a middle school.

00:21:07.000 I mean, Charlie, I find this hard to believe, except other things that I've found hard to believe in the last couple of years have turned out to be true, like the idea that, you know, that you'd cut a teenage girl's breasts off at the age of 16.

00:21:21.000 I mean, it turns out, or even younger in some cases, it turns out that actually has happened and not once.

00:21:25.000 It's happened repeatedly.

00:21:27.000 You know, by the way, is there a more Orwellian phrase in English than gender-affirming surgery for surgery to reverse biological sex?

00:21:37.000 We are at a strange time.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, it's very dangerous.

00:21:40.000 Okay, I want to talk about the childhood vaccination issue.

00:21:44.000 Seems as if the CDC is poised to approve and put the mRNA shot on the childhood vaccination schedule.

00:21:51.000 How should we think about this?

00:21:53.000 Well, you know, so this is very interesting.

00:21:57.000 These shots have been completely rejected by the parents of kids under five.

00:22:01.000 There's something like 97% of American children under five are not fully vaccinated against COVID.

00:22:08.000 And I challenge you to think of another issue where 97% of the country has taken the same attitude.

00:22:16.000 I mean, probably if a meteor were going to crash into the world and end it, there'd be more than 3% of the country that would disagree, right?

00:22:23.000 So they've just been profoundly rejected.

00:22:27.000 And slightly older kids, age 5 to 11, those kids, I think something like 70%, a little under 70%, have not been fully vaccinated.

00:22:38.000 So parents don't want their kids to have these shots.

00:22:41.000 They've been offered.

00:22:42.000 It's not a question of accessibility.

00:22:44.000 It's not a question of them not knowing.

00:22:45.000 They've just been completely rejected.

00:22:47.000 And by the way, outside the United States, there's been a progressive move away from recommending these shots for kids.

00:22:57.000 The UK has moved away.

00:22:59.000 The Nordic countries, which are supposed to have the best healthcare in the world, they're some of the richest countries in the world.

00:23:06.000 They have the healthcare that the left would love to bring to the United States.

00:23:09.000 They've all rejected these.

00:23:11.000 Australia has moved away.

00:23:13.000 So what's really going on here?

00:23:15.000 I mean, there's one possibility is that the people in that room and the sort of the vaccine advocacy community in the United States is so crazy, it just has no idea of the blowback that this will cause.

00:23:27.000 Now, to be clear, this does not mean that the vaccines are definitely going to be mandated for kids to go to school.

00:23:34.000 The states have to make that decision individually, but it does set the stage for that in a state like California or a state like New York, a blue state that has shown interest in mandating the mRNA vaccines for kids.

00:23:48.000 So that's one possibility.

00:23:50.000 They just don't care.

00:23:51.000 They know it's going to infuriate parents.

00:23:54.000 It's going to be, I mean, somebody emailed me today and said there'll be civil war if they try to do this.

00:24:00.000 I mean, I don't know if there'll be civil war, but I do think it would result in the collapse of the public school system in any state that tried it.

00:24:07.000 The other possibility, which I think is more likely, is that getting onto the childhood vaccine schedule comes with something very important for the vaccine companies.

00:24:18.000 It comes with liability protection, permanent liability protection, meaning you can't sue the vaccine companies for injury.

00:24:27.000 The government, you can file a claim with something called the National Vaccine Compensation Injury Program, and then the government will adjudicate that and determine whether or not you get paid.

00:24:36.000 And if you need to get paid, the government pays you, the federal government.

00:24:40.000 So what this does is it protects Pfizer and Moderna from, and the other vaccine companies, from injuries related to the COVID vaccines.

00:24:49.000 Now, right now, they have that protection in a different way.

00:24:53.000 They have it because we have, quote unquote, a public health emergency that remains in force about COVID.

00:25:01.000 Okay.

00:25:01.000 And that was just extended a few days ago through January.

00:25:05.000 But I think even the Biden administration is aware of how ridiculous it is to pretend that there's any kind of emergency related to this point.

00:25:13.000 I mean, there's literally kind of emergency or even problem related to COVID in the real world.

00:25:20.000 And the protection that the companies have will end.

00:25:24.000 But basically what Alex is saying is that it does give these vaccine manufacturers extended liability protection, what we talked in the last hour.

00:25:32.000 It's amazing to think 97% of Americans, 97% think this is insane.

00:25:37.000 The CDC is going to do it anyway. 0.55

00:25:39.000 They're bought and paid for corrupt, very, very bad actors.

00:25:42.000 It would be so interesting to see Congress vote on this.

00:25:45.000 When Congress has given up their power, you get decisions that are so disconnected from the consent of the governed.

00:25:53.000 The administrative state designed by Woodrow Wilson, the administrative state that's been around for 100 years of this fourth branch of government, unelected, unknown, unchecked power, makes it that it doesn't really matter what you say.

00:26:06.000 It doesn't matter what you want.

00:26:07.000 They do whatever they want.

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00:27:08.000 Alex, you got cut off.

00:27:09.000 You wanted to finish your thought?

00:27:11.000 Yeah, so just so I suspect that what's happened here is that Pfizer and Moderna have said to the federal government, we're not going to keep selling these vaccines without liability protection.

00:27:21.000 We've already made a ton of money on them.

00:27:23.000 It's all downside for us going forward if people can sue us.

00:27:27.000 But the companies and the government know how that would look.

00:27:31.000 Okay.

00:27:31.000 They know what that would mean.

00:27:33.000 And, you know, if we can't sell these unless we're completely protected from lawsuits, what does that say about their safety?

00:27:40.000 And so I think the government, you know, the Biden administration is in a tough spot here.

00:27:45.000 They need to figure out a way to extend that protection.

00:27:48.000 And so this is what they're doing.

00:27:50.000 And they must know.

00:27:52.000 what the backlash is going to be when this is put on you know put on the schedule.

00:27:57.000 Again, it doesn't mean that mandates are going to happen tomorrow, but it does start the process for states that want a mandate of being able to do that.

00:28:06.000 And as I wrote on my substack today, again, I have this unreported true substack where I can go into the stuff at a little bit greater depth.

00:28:12.000 If I were a Republican presidential candidate, I would, or a presidential, a Republican candidate in a blue state for governor or senator or Congress, I would have an ad set to go saying, you know, the CDC has now put this on the schedule.

00:28:28.000 That means there's a backdoor chance that these could be mandated.

00:28:31.000 You know, if you don't like that idea, you should vote for me.

00:28:35.000 I think that there's a lot of anger that parents have in the blue states towards what's happened in the last couple of years with school closures, with mask mandates, and with these vaccine mandates.

00:28:48.000 You mentioned athletic competitions, which is, you're absolutely correct.

00:28:52.000 That's a backdoor way to force kids to get mandated to get vaccinated.

00:28:57.000 In fact, we saw documents that the government had actually talked about this, that, you know, if you if you mandate vaccines for athletic competitions, it's going to force kids to get mandated, get vaccinated, I should say.

00:29:09.000 So I think there is tremendous anger about this, even among Democratic parents.

00:29:13.000 Look, I'm a registered independent.

00:29:15.000 I live in a truly purple county in New York State.

00:29:18.000 And I can tell you, even Democratic parents do not like what's happened the last couple of years.

00:29:23.000 So yes, I think there's an opportunity for the Republicans here, but I think that the Biden administration is under such pressure from the vaccine companies, they had no choice but to do this.

00:29:32.000 I mean, they're under pressure, but it's just, it's so unpopular.

00:29:36.000 It's inexplicable.

00:29:37.000 I mean, so if let's say the CDC approves this today or tomorrow, what is their rationale going to be?

00:29:44.000 I have no idea.

00:29:46.000 The kids are at, you know, essentially zero risk from Omicron.

00:29:51.000 Everybody in the country, certainly practically every child has already gotten Omicron and recovered.

00:29:56.000 We know that because we have what are called seroprevalence studies that show that there is just absolutely no excuse for this.

00:30:02.000 And you're seeing that with other countries.

00:30:05.000 Other countries that aren't the home of Pfizer and Moderna have taken a more rational attitude towards this.

00:30:11.000 It's not because they hate their kids.

00:30:12.000 It's because they don't have this unique confluence of political pressure and administrative state.

00:30:17.000 I think what you said about the administrative state after I got unfortunately dropped out at the previous episode is absolutely correct.

00:30:24.000 These, you know, these things sort of become a flywheel that just spin on their own and they're totally unaccountable or largely unaccountable.

00:30:31.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just these vaccine companies, I just think they want the government protection of it, but they're pushing way too hard and way too far.

00:30:39.000 I mean, is it also just greed they're going to get more money if it's on the schedule?

00:30:43.000 Is that right, I guess?

00:30:44.000 I mean, look, if you're a Pfizer and Moderna, you've sold $100 billion.

00:30:48.000 And this is not an exaggeration.

00:30:49.000 You've sold $110 billion of these vaccines already in the last two years.

00:30:53.000 And so the money, I think, is relatively minor.

00:30:56.000 I mean, obviously, they'd like to have this as an annuity going forward where they make a couple billion dollars a year.

00:31:01.000 I really think it's about liability protection for them.

00:31:04.000 It's hard to disagree with that.

00:31:06.000 Alex Berenson, thank you so much.

00:31:07.000 Great job as always.

00:31:08.000 Thank you.

00:31:09.000 Charlie, pleasure.

00:31:10.000 Thank you.

00:31:10.000 Great work.

00:31:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:13.000 Email me your foxasoysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:17.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:31:18.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 20, 2022

Blocked Shots with Alex Berenson and Russ Vought

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