00:01:24.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:30.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:59.000He's made a big impact on my own ability to communicate about the Chinese coronavirus and treatments that have been suppressed by the regime.
00:02:07.000He's someone who I consider to be a completely honest and courageous person because he has no agenda except that of which pursuing the truth.
00:02:15.000You can tell a lot about a person about how they're treated once they decide to pursue truth.
00:02:21.000And this person has had attempts of cancellation and smears and all that.
00:02:47.000I didn't do the study, but I helped in the preparation and writing.
00:02:51.000You know, it's a study that comes out of data from a city in Brazil called Itajai.
00:02:56.000And it's the largest study on ivermectin to date.
00:02:59.000And in this follow-up study, so the first one showed what we knew would happen, which is it showed this massive reduction in infections, in hospitalizations, and death amongst it was at that time, it was 159,000 subjects in a program in that city where they offered all the city city members or the citizens of that city an opportunity to participate in a prevention program by taking ivermectin four days a month.
00:03:28.000And, you know, beyond what that study found, this was a follow-up study where they looked at the subjects and they split them up into those who took ivermectin regularly, those who didn't take all the doses that they were supposed to, and those who didn't at all.
00:03:41.000And when you looked at the regular ivermectin users, I mean, it was just absolutely eye-popping.
00:03:46.000I mean, it was a 92% reduction in death and 100% reduction in hospitalization.
00:03:52.000Nobody went to the hospital, and there was about 50% reduction in infections.
00:03:56.000You know, the thing is, though, Charlie, you know this.
00:03:59.000We have had data showing the efficacy of ivermectin now for almost two years.
00:04:06.000The evidence-based is now 91 controlled studies, of which this is the second largest.
00:04:12.000And every single study always shows the benefits.
00:04:16.000Some of them may not statistically significant, but that's not what you use.
00:04:19.000You use the aggregate of all the data.
00:04:21.000I've never seen a more proven medicine in any disease model in my life.
00:04:25.000This one is just, this one just, you know, it's hard to argue data anymore.
00:04:30.000I'll tell you how, sorry, I'll tell you how they argue it, but not, you know, it's not honest and it's full of lies.
00:04:39.000So, doctor, I mean, we've been through this a couple of times, but I think it's worth repeating.
00:04:44.000This is an incredibly frustrating moment because you just said, and I don't, I want to make sure I'm precise in repeating it, the most effective drug you've ever seen against a specific virus.
00:04:57.000I mean, I've studied a lot of different therapies and interventions and numerous different diseases that I've managed over my career.
00:05:03.000And this one is absolutely the most potent.
00:05:05.000I mean, when I first started using it in the pandemic, I mean, I knew from my first patient, I mean, she was sick for two weeks, unrelenting fevers, high heart rates.
00:06:17.000I mean, the academia and listen, the way in which they did this is it's been well documented for decades that pharma controls the high-impact journals.
00:06:27.000It's the high-impact journals that drive the headlines and that drive doctors' behaviors and beliefs.
00:06:34.000This is why they captured those journals decades ago.
00:06:36.000This is why former editors of those journals have since left, resigned, and written books about it, about the overwhelming influence of pharma.
00:06:45.000And the tactic in which they deployed is they have published the only studies they publish in those high-impact journals are purportedly negative studies, and meaning they didn't show a statistically significant benefit.
00:06:58.000And then those studies are used to drive headlines and guidelines.
00:07:01.000And those are just under a handful of studies of the 91 that we have.
00:07:17.000However, Charlie, we are starting to see retreats on the vaccines.
00:07:22.000You saw the CDC guidance recently now starting to admit that it might not protect against or doesn't protect against transmission.
00:07:30.000And I'll tell you the two big retreats I saw.
00:07:32.000And again, I'm changing the subject to vaccines because I don't see it on ivermectin.
00:07:36.000The two big ones are the UK changed, quietly changed their guidance on their website, now saying that they have no safety data to support the vaccination of pregnant women.
00:07:46.000And they also updated their guidance to say they're no longer offering vaccines to five to 11-year-olds.
00:07:52.000So you're starting to see some backtracking away from these vaccines, but I don't see any on ivermectin.
00:07:59.000This has been roundly ignored by almost all major media, with the exception of the Blaze, which has a large following and readership.
00:08:07.000So you're seeing a drive, you know, you see social media.
00:08:10.000So definitely that is one kind of major media outlet that covered it.
00:08:15.000And so there is a discussion on ivermectin, but you're not going to see a change from these agencies.
00:08:20.000They're completely captured, like we've talked about before.
00:08:24.000And Charlie, if they backtracked on ivermectin, it would threaten the market for Molnu Piravir, Paxlovid, anything else they have in their pipeline.
00:08:50.000You have a cheaper, more effective drug as the ivermectin.
00:08:55.000Why is that not then getting out there?
00:08:57.000Sometimes there are things that are outside of market forces that actually the opposite happens, where the market force actually incentivizes you to get the less effective, more expensive drug.
00:09:07.000And so I'm not saying, you know, you have government take over everything, obviously.
00:09:11.000I'm not saying I'm just at times, though, you have to remove yourself from whatever ideology you might be focused on and ask yourself, what is good for people?
00:09:19.000And why is that the cheap, widely accessible drug that obviously works?
00:09:52.000Without getting into how the market solves anything, I will just say this: is that the healthcare market, especially around pharmaceuticals and therapeutics, has never worked in our favor.
00:10:04.000It has always been controlled by pharma.
00:10:06.000And pharma, their whole operating model is what you just said.
00:10:10.000It's about preserving and pretending and trying to prove that the new shinier pill works better than the old, cheaper, off-patent one.
00:10:19.000That has been the truth in the pharmaceutical industry for decades.
00:11:26.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
00:11:28.000They recently shared with me that they are doubling down and want to literally double their total number of happy customers in the next year.
00:11:36.000If you're struggling with back pain, neck pain, shoulder, hip, or knee pain, even general muscle aches and pain, then I'm suggesting you order their three-week quick start, still discounted, only $19.95.
00:13:00.000I don't want to be rude, but is the argument I get every time I say that, they say it's because sicker, older people get vaccinated, therefore they're dying at higher rates.
00:13:26.000They've failed on toxicity and they failed on efficacy.
00:13:30.000And really, the way to judge a vaccine is what it does to your health.
00:13:33.000And like I said, if you're going to be disabled more and die more from a vaccine, who cares whether it's from COVID or not?
00:13:40.000And even when you just look at COVID, again, the data, non-U.S. data, right, the U.S. data unfortunately is corrupt.
00:13:47.000And I don't know if I've talked to you how they've done that, but we know that the hospital, those in the hospital have been doubly vaccinated, triply vaccinated, and there are high proportions in hospitals per 100,000.
00:14:00.000It's not just because they've, you know, more countries have higher vaccination rates.
00:14:53.000No amount of data which will stop them.
00:14:55.000They're going to push their pricey pills and they're going to push their vaccines, no matter how illogical or how non-scientifically supported.
00:15:02.000And somehow a large part of the country goes along with that and trusts them.
00:15:06.000The implicit faith and trust, I don't know how they've retained it because it's eroded for large parts of the country, but I would still say that some majority still believes that there is truth and science and expertise coming out of those agencies.
00:15:20.000And that has not been true for a long time.
00:15:42.000We know that this campaign is built on immense amount of fraud starting from your initial trials.
00:15:48.000The real answer, I think, there's twofold.
00:15:50.000One is the legal route and one is the media route.
00:15:52.000The media route, I don't know how to do that one because there really has been global censorship across major media for most of the pandemic.
00:16:02.000They have hidden so much troubling data on the vaccines and shown so much efficacious data on repurposed drugs.
00:16:09.000But I think the legal route, it's time for the lawyers, the judges, and the prisons.
00:16:14.000Because if you go the legal route, you can get what's called discovery.
00:16:18.000We can find out how much they knew, what they knew, how much they buried.
00:16:23.000And I really think that people are going to be held accountable.
00:16:25.000And through those court cases, I think the truth will come out.
00:16:28.000But this is a war of information, Charlie, that we're fighting.
00:16:31.000And the other side is absolutely incredibly powerful.
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00:18:18.000Joining us is another great American patriot, one of my favorite guests.
00:18:23.000And honestly, if I had to make a list of one of the positives that came out of this man-made tragedy of the China virus, it would be getting to know, at least remotely, Dr. Robert Malone.
00:19:04.000So deep venous thrombosis is certainly something that can happen, and we have to be careful about confusing association with causation.
00:19:16.000But the burden of the data are getting stronger and stronger.
00:19:21.000And in terms of what's going on, there's a number of papers out now.
00:19:26.000And it's not just these deep blood clots or the post-mortem autopsy samples, but it's also the lung COVID patients, those that are suffering from this spectrum of problems like I used to suffer from, having to do with tinnitus, hard of hearing, problems with exercise tolerance. brain fog,
00:19:56.000respiratory problems, and of course cardiac problems.
00:20:00.000And there's a growing amount of data suggesting that this is due to aberrant clotting that may be driven by the spike protein that's in your blood.
00:20:10.000And we know from the cell paper that came out at the beginning of this year that that levels of that spike protein S1 subunit in the blood of people who have received the vaccine are higher than in the blood of those that have had the natural infection.
00:20:29.000So we're having long COVID and the data is demonstrated, and we're also having the post-vaccination syndrome.
00:20:36.000And the data are demonstrating that these large fraction of these patients have microclots.
00:20:44.000A number of pathologists, particularly some in South Africa, Dr. Praetorius is often mentioned, have really been on tracking.
00:20:54.000And there's about to be a meeting of five key pathologists from all across Europe and South Africa and the United States in Vienna very shortly.
00:21:04.000And my good friend Ryan Cole is going to be there.
00:21:06.000Ryan has evaluated over 30 of these large clots.
00:21:11.000And let's, one thing we can dispel is the rumors that this is due to metal particulates or crystalline structures, etc.
00:21:23.000Ryan is one of the most highly qualified pathologists I've ever met.
00:21:28.000And he has carefully examined these post-mortem clots.
00:21:32.000And he sees no sign of any crystalline structures in there.
00:21:37.000It's easy to find this stuff because it refracts light.
00:21:41.000And so you can use polarized light and you'll see the crystals.
00:21:56.000There's evidence of aberrant folding, which is to say that the proteins involved in blood clotting are clotting and aggregating in a very unusual, irregular fashion.
00:22:09.000And that's probably what's driving these very odd clots that are being seen in the postmortems and also being seen in patients such as the unfortunate gentleman that you're referring to.
00:22:54.000These are not typical blood clots that form after a person's death.
00:22:58.000When a funeral director sent a sample to a lab in Texas, its elemental composition was found to be extremely low in iron, magnesium, potassium, and zinc.
00:23:07.000This suggests that the clots are forming from something other than blood.
00:23:14.000Many embalmers across the country are finding similar clots in the deceased after COVID-19 vaccination began in 2021.
00:23:22.000So, Dr. Malone, this is happening in young, able-bodied people, and there's an unusual amount of people just dropping dead for unexplained death.
00:23:31.000You're the inventor of this technology, and these blood clots are obviously leading into terrible, terrible outcomes.
00:23:40.000Do you think we'll ever get an admission from the public health officials that one might be leading to the other?
00:23:47.000Well, what we do have is the UK is now stopping the jab in children.
00:23:54.000We have huge amount of data that I'm going to be releasing as a summary that was presented at the recent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices at the CDC, which demonstrates, as you point out, a remarkably high rate of pediatric complications post-vaccination.
00:24:15.000And we have these many papers now, and we're now at the level where we're having opinion and review papers published in places like Nature.
00:24:25.000So this is the top journals, acknowledging that we have this problem of amyloid clots, microclots forming in a broad range of patients.
00:24:35.000And we have clear, unambiguous data from the CDC's vSAFE system, which has finally come online, which were presented at this recent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices or ACIP meeting, which demonstrates that we're having a remarkably high rate of adverse events post-vaccination in children.
00:25:06.000And in the ACIP meeting, when members of the ACIP who were kind of not with the narrative, doing their job, raised questions, they were basically blown off and disregarded.
00:25:21.000We're in a situation, Charlie, where the government officials seem, I don't know how else to say this.
00:25:29.000They seem to be operating in a lawless fashion where they are completely decoupled from any norms or guidance that has previously guided how these decisions are made and these kinds of data are evaluated.
00:25:44.000In other words, we got a problem, Houston, and I'm not sure what we're going to do about it.
00:25:52.000Part of what I think needs to be the solution is justice.
00:25:57.000And justice is, as Aristotle would say, is the messiest of all the virtues, but it's very, very important.
00:26:03.000And so there's been a recent article, Peter Navarro and Dr. Stephen Hatfield wrote an article the other day accusing Dr. Fauci and his gang of what I would call smug demagogues and ideologues of, they said, quote, mass murder.
00:26:19.000Someone wants to start to pay a penalty for this.
00:26:22.000Yeah, you're referring to the recent Washington Times office from my friends Hatfield and Navarro, which I read and concur with.
00:26:31.000More remarkably as shown in the headlines, they are projecting literally hundreds of thousands of excess deaths in the United States alone due to the, let's just call it administrative state to create a basket case around it, due to the administrative state blocking the availability of these existing inexpensive drugs that are clearly increasingly demonstrated to be effective.
00:27:00.000And to that point, we have yet another article that's come out of Brazil.
00:27:07.000And it had to be in a very low-level peer-reviewed journal because none of the big journals would take it.
00:27:12.000But it unequivocally demonstrates the effectiveness of ivermectin and prophylaxis.
00:27:19.000The thing that my friend Brett Weinstein advocated for so long ago in that podcast with myself and Steve Kirsch, and which caused him to be demonetized by YouTube.
00:28:08.000We're not designed to see all the good things that are around us.
00:28:11.000That's partially what keeps us alive, but also in a comfortable world that can keep you also insane.
00:28:17.000I think one of the positives, though, is that people are starting to recognize the threat of the administrative state and what needs to be done to hold them accountable.
00:28:26.000How does that tie into everything we're talking about, this fourth branch of government, unelected, unknown, unchecked power of the administrative state?
00:28:34.000The administrative state led by the senior executive service, which virtually cannot be fired unless they do something that is particularly egregious, is what Mr. Trump tried to get rid of and to break.
00:28:48.000And they are the ones that run the government.
00:28:59.000This is called inverted totalitarianism.
00:29:02.000And Mr. Trump actually needs credit for what he did do, including the attempt to get Schedule F through as a strategy to try to break this up.
00:29:13.000They are very, very deeply entrenched, and they're fighting back on a daily basis.
00:29:20.000It's not just the documentation now that's coming out about the just casual, complete collusion between the administrative state and tech and media to censor people and to stop information sharing.
00:29:37.000But it's also now this evidence we have in all these other agencies of the administrative state lashing out in a whole variety of ways.
00:29:49.000And we can speak about the FBI, et cetera, but I think you just had better experts on than I for that.
00:29:56.000Well, Dr. Malone, you have wisdom in all fields.
00:29:59.000In fact, I just wrote down, and I don't have a lot of talents.
00:30:02.000I have a talent for spotting one-liners and things that really pop.
00:30:07.000That's right up there with mass formation psychosis.
00:30:12.000It really is a question of: do we want to live in a republic or do we want to live in some form of a kleptocratic monarchy?
00:30:20.000A lot of this goes downstream from there, but the argument you're making and the term that you used is inverted totalitarianism is that it's not just top down, it's also bottom up.
00:30:31.000Yeah, so we have the collusion and integration of these large bureaucrats, these very powerful bureaucrats.
00:30:40.000And it's also a vertical integration up to the United Nations and the World Health Organization, and then a horizontal integration with big financial interests, big industry, tech, pharma, et cetera.
00:30:55.000And Charlie, I'm sure your audience knows it.
00:30:58.000I've been beating the drum for a long time now.
00:31:01.000The literal political science definition or the term fascism, I don't use that term lightly, is the fusion of the interests of large corporations and the state.
00:31:56.000I try to stick with the real solid use of language and definitions that are the norm in political science and psychology to try to describe these phenomena.
00:32:19.000Yeah, the administrative state is actually a very technical term.
00:32:22.000It came about prior to Woodrow Wilson by German historicists who, interestingly enough, were also fascinated with the reconfiguration of the human species as well.
00:32:33.000A lot of mad scientists and a lot of the most extreme, let's just say, and disastrous interventions in humanity happened from those very same people.
00:32:47.000And now in the modern embodiment, we have Mr. Harari who reports to Mr. Schwab.
00:32:54.000And we have also this fascinating logic.
00:32:58.000I use the term trying to be gentle and not alarmist.
00:33:04.000But there's a report that we've covered in our substack that is issued by the combined think tank for the German and British military that strongly advocates for transhumanism.
00:33:19.000It acknowledges the transhumanism, which the World Economic Forum believes is the next generation, the next industrial revolution, where we will accelerate human evolution through the fusion of man and machine and the use of genetic engineering,
00:33:37.000that the armed forces and presumably the Five Eyes Alliance, which we're a part of together with Australia and Canada, believe that it's necessary to move forward with the transhumanism agenda because apparently the Chinese are doing it.
00:33:54.000And it's the same logic as with nuclear war, mutually assured destruction.
00:33:59.000They're doing it, so we have to do it, even though the ethics aren't sound.
00:34:04.000We're in a situation, as you know, as a key thought leader in this area, Charlie, where we have thrown out the Judeo-Christian playbook in terms of ethics.
00:34:17.000That's not me, not you, not our audience, but these people that are making these decisions believe that ethics are irrelevant and man is just another thing that can be manipulated and should be manipulated.
00:34:34.000And, you know, you know, this goes right down the Harare discussions about the genetics of belief and belief in a higher power, et cetera.