The Charlie Kirk Show - Blowing the Whistle on the 'G Word' with Libs of TikTok and Saurabh Sharma

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00:00:07.000 Libs of TikTok and Sarab Sharma join us to talk about what's happening and what can be done about social media.

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00:01:04.000 I've been reading them all, folks.

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00:01:16.000 Libs, thank you so much for coming on, joining us today here at the Charlie Kirk program.

00:01:21.000 Hi, Doc.

00:01:22.000 It's such an honor to be here with you.

00:01:25.000 I'm super excited.

00:01:26.000 So, so you and I, we just got put on a couple of lists.

00:01:29.000 I think we've been talking about the G word.

00:01:31.000 We've been talking about a whole bunch of stuff.

00:01:33.000 Why is it that they go after you so hard when all you do is literally repost TikTok videos?

00:01:40.000 That's it.

00:01:41.000 Well, I think it's really hard for them to see what they themselves believe in.

00:01:47.000 And they thought for so long and they still think that, you know, they can just do whatever they want to do, groom kids and doctorate goods, and no one would notice.

00:01:59.000 And it's like, and they could also gaslight us and say, you know, it's not happening, like they famously did with CRT and with the grooming in schools.

00:02:08.000 And then I come and I'm like, here, this is you guys saying that it is happening.

00:02:12.000 And it just throws a wrench in their whole agenda and they can't stand to see it.

00:02:17.000 Now, did I see, and you've experienced a few bans lately, right?

00:02:21.000 So what kind of bans have you been getting?

00:02:23.000 Because they're coming down hard on you over this Boston Children's Hospital story that you've been working on.

00:02:29.000 What kind of responses have you been seeing and bans over the last few days?

00:02:34.000 I think they're running scared.

00:02:36.000 I mean, just in the last few days, I've just been temporarily banned from Facebook, but I'm back up now.

00:02:43.000 But previously, I was banned, I think, three times from Twitter temporarily.

00:02:47.000 I was banned from TikTok.

00:02:49.000 I was banned from Linktree.

00:02:50.000 I was banned from another service that I used to use to manage my emails.

00:02:55.000 And they're just, they're banning me left and right.

00:02:57.000 They're so scared.

00:02:59.000 Well, and this is why, and we haven't, we actually haven't talked about the story very much today, but I know that you, you use Truth Social.

00:03:05.000 I'm on there.

00:03:06.000 Actually, one thing, you know, I've noticed that you have slightly more followers than me on Truth Social, but like not that much.

00:03:13.000 I'm like, all right, I got to catch up with libs a little bit.

00:03:16.000 Guys, go follow Doc on truth.

00:03:19.000 Yeah, I know, right?

00:03:20.000 But we actually saw the news this morning that broke, and I have we've been talking about the FBI all day.

00:03:23.000 I didn't have much time to talk about this yet, was that Truth Social just announced that they're going to be partnering with Rumble Ads.

00:03:32.000 This is a huge deal because now it means that there's going to be a monetizable feature for Truth Social.

00:03:40.000 We're seeing more and more of this parallel economy growing up.

00:03:43.000 It's incredible for creators, for people like you who essentially you're running your business through social media, through the internet.

00:03:50.000 True Social, Justin, we've got the story here from Globe Newswire.

00:03:53.000 Truth Social joins Rumble's ad team ad platform as first provider.

00:03:59.000 This is huge.

00:04:00.000 So, as someone who's a creator like yourself, and I think you've said it before, I've heard you say that you never really intended to become this big.

00:04:07.000 How big of a deal is it to you to be able to have this feature now through true social and potential others in terms of parallel economy actually be able to fund your mission?

00:04:18.000 I think it's incredible.

00:04:19.000 I think we really need more avenues for getting our message out because we know obviously we can't rely on big tech.

00:04:28.000 We can't rely on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, YouTube.

00:04:32.000 So, it's really important that we have other platforms to be able to send our message that we know we're not going to be censored on, and not just to spread our message, but to also be able to monetize that.

00:04:48.000 I think that's really important and it's great news.

00:04:53.000 And so, one of the hugest deals with this is that when we understand they want to shut people down, they want to shut down this ability to monetize.

00:05:02.000 They want to shut down this ability for people in the movement, right, to be able to grow because you have to be able to have to monetize, you have to grow the movement, you have to get everything in place.

00:05:13.000 Because we know that networking and bringing people together, if we're on just their networks, they will starve us.

00:05:20.000 They will starve every single one of us and they can start the movement.

00:05:23.000 As you said, the left pays its activists.

00:05:26.000 Yet on the right, we haven't seen that structure built up yet.

00:05:28.000 Because I keep saying this, the right is a generation behind the left when it comes to this stuff.

00:05:33.000 And so, now we're finally getting to the place where we're seeing.

00:05:36.000 Because, of course, you know, you go up on Instagram Reels, you try to go Facebook monetization, they will ban the right 10 times more than the left.

00:05:44.000 And I want to ask you about: do you even realize, or what do you say about the impact that you've had?

00:05:52.000 I think you've done more to expose these people with their own words, by the way, their literal owners than anyone in recent memory.

00:05:59.000 You're arguably the biggest threat to wokeness in America right now. 0.99

00:06:02.000 Did you ever realize that you would have this kind of impact?

00:06:05.000 Uh, never realized, and people ask me all the time, uh, you know, at what point when was it that you realized?

00:06:12.000 And I'm like, I don't, I don't think I could pinpoint a specific time that I was like, oh, wow, I'm onto something really great.

00:06:20.000 This is going to be huge.

00:06:21.000 I, it just, it was, it all progressed just naturally.

00:06:27.000 Um, and it wasn't, there was no calculated decision in the beginning, you know, I have to start exposing this, and this is what I'm going to do, and this is the plan.

00:06:35.000 It all just happened naturally, it progressed, and it became this huge, influential force for exposing the left.

00:06:44.000 And I, I mean, I guess when I first started seeing my content being used, um, like on Fox News, like Tucker was playing a video that I had, and I'm like, wow, I guess that was, you know, that's really cool.

00:06:56.000 Now, now, obviously, I'm used to it, but um, when it first started, I guess, being picked up, that's when by all these big media outlets, that's that's when I was like, wow, I think I'm on to something big.

00:07:08.000 Well, and what's what's crazy to me is that it's you know, people will say, Oh, you're you're doing this, you're targeting people, you're going after them.

00:07:17.000 Um, you've been doxxed by Taylor Renz, you've been harassed by her, your family's been harassed by her.

00:07:23.000 Then at the same time, they'll go and do the exact same tactics to you and to your family that they claim you're doing.

00:07:29.000 But again, all you're doing is taking videos that people have publicly posted on social media, in many cases, people who are in positions of authority, whether that's in political, whether it's medical, social, economic, doesn't matter.

00:07:42.000 You're actually out there on the front lines doing the work where these, you know, these people, you know, they want to misquote.

00:07:52.000 All you're doing is reposting.

00:07:54.000 Which group, though, do you find most guilty when it comes to in your research?

00:07:59.000 Would you say it was it teachers?

00:08:01.000 Is it educators?

00:08:02.000 Is it medical?

00:08:03.000 Which group would you say?

00:08:06.000 I want to say teachers.

00:08:07.000 I've been focusing on that a lot over the past year.

00:08:10.000 I've posted dozens and dozens and dozens of not just teachers, educators too.

00:08:14.000 So there's principals, professors.

00:08:17.000 But now we're starting to expose, you know, quite a few hospitals.

00:08:24.000 I'm actually dropping a thread as soon as I'm done this interview, another children's hospital.

00:08:30.000 And this is opening up a whole nother door.

00:08:33.000 And the more I dig into it, the more petrifying this is and horrifying.

00:08:40.000 And we see what's going on in the medical field.

00:08:42.000 And now this is what I'm going to be focusing on now.

00:08:46.000 But I would say the teachers are, there's a lot of groomer teachers, a lot.

00:08:51.000 And then it's kind of like a pipeline, I guess.

00:08:55.000 They're bringing them into the children's hospitals to start their gender journey. 1.00

00:09:00.000 And then they're getting mutilated and castrated.

00:09:04.000 And it's just, it's so, it's so horrifying.

00:09:08.000 But I'm going to do everything I can to expose every single last one of them.

00:09:12.000 I would love to, because this, this is absolutely fascinating.

00:09:14.000 The fact that, you know, we were talking before about the problems in our government, but I think you're going right to the heart of the issue.

00:09:21.000 These are the problems, not out in the imperial capital.

00:09:24.000 No, these are in every schoolhouse.

00:09:26.000 Fargo, North Dakota was banning the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:09:30.000 They got it back.

00:09:31.000 But this is happening so far because it's been so pervasive.

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00:11:59.000 So, Lib, some of the stuff that you deal with is actually very dark.

00:12:04.000 And I want people to understand that because it's not just the groom.

00:12:07.000 So, the grooming is the top of the funnel.

00:12:10.000 That's a top of the funnel activity here: the selection, the grooming process, munch housing by proxy.

00:12:14.000 Because I think a lot of this really is munchausen by proxy.

00:12:17.000 That's when the mothers, it's typically the mother, not always, but they push this gender identity on the children. 1.00

00:12:24.000 Sometimes it's by teachers, but it also gets to the point where physical surgery is involved.

00:12:32.000 And that's something that you cover.

00:12:33.000 So, tell me, what are you uncovering that's going on in our country when it comes to what's essentially the mutilation of our children?

00:12:41.000 So, yeah, the left will gaslight us and say that minors are not receiving gender-affirming surgery.

00:12:50.000 And when I say gender-affirming, I mean double mastectomies, thallopasty, vaginopasties.

00:12:56.000 They never give you the exact context because they don't want you to know what they're referring to.

00:13:01.000 They'll just say gender-affirming because it sounds really nice and sweet, and you're just helping a child.

00:13:06.000 But in actuality, they are chopping off healthy body parts of young kids.

00:13:12.000 And the more I'm looking into all of these children's hospitals, the more I'm realizing how common this is.

00:13:19.000 So, almost every single hospital that I've looked at so far, and I have quite a few already lined up that I'm looking into and preparing reports on.

00:13:27.000 They're all doing mastectomies on minors. 0.99

00:13:32.000 And the world, the WPAF guidelines, they just changed their guidelines to actually say that you can do, they want to lower the age for surgeries and for puberty blockers, for cross-sex hormones.

00:13:48.000 So, this is happening.

00:13:49.000 It's happening probably in every single state.

00:13:54.000 And it is, it is, it's so horrifying.

00:13:58.000 Um, and there's, I mean, we this has to stop.

00:14:04.000 Like, there's no other way.

00:14:05.000 And I'm going to post every single one that I find.

00:14:08.000 I'm going to post every single one.

00:14:09.000 I'm going to call out every single hospital, and they're going to have to answer for why they are chopping off the genitals and the breasts of healthy kids and suppressing kids' puberty.

00:14:22.000 And there's a lot of negative side effects, and they're giving kids cross-sex hormones. 0.99

00:14:27.000 And they've just been doing this for years, and nobody has been doing anything about it.

00:14:31.000 God bless you for digging into this, for exposing the fact that we have this festering wound in our country.

00:14:37.000 I don't know if you saw it, but we had Diva Fry on yesterday, and he explained that Canada, Canada, which is ahead of us on this, they're ahead of the curve.

00:14:45.000 They're going out there full-on.

00:14:48.000 Not only is euthanasia being allowed across the country, but they're also going to, I believe next year, the TrueGo government is either going to do this.

00:14:57.000 They're going to be allowing mature minors to choose medically assisted euthanasia over what they deem anxiety, mental health issues, stress.

00:15:09.000 So, they're pushing all of this, like the things that you just talked about, they're pushing all that in Canada, but now they're adding the additional element of allowing euthanasia for what they call mature.

00:15:22.000 Yeah, I mean, there's, I don't think there's such a thing as a mature minor.

00:15:28.000 So, a minor can't consign. 0.60

00:15:30.000 And up until a few years ago, everybody agreed on that.

00:15:34.000 And suddenly, they're changing.

00:15:36.000 The left is changing the definitions of everything and they're changing all these things that were known to be fact.

00:15:44.000 And it's really harming their kids.

00:15:46.000 I mean, the reason that they are criminalizing the use of the word, I'm just going to say it, the word groomer.

00:15:51.000 The reason they're doing this is because, and this is the cycle, right?

00:15:54.000 First, they say it's not happening.

00:15:56.000 Then they say it's a conspiracy.

00:15:58.000 Then they say, okay, it's happening, but it's a good thing.

00:16:00.000 And then they'll say, okay, it's happening, but you can't call it that because that's a slur and you get banned if you say that.

00:16:06.000 They're doing that because of your work, because of your effectiveness.

00:16:09.000 And I commend you for what you do.

00:16:10.000 Continue to post the videos.

00:16:12.000 And if we get banned everywhere else, guess what?

00:16:14.000 We've got truth, we've got Getter, we've got Rumble, we've got all of these new facets of the parallel economy.

00:16:20.000 They can't stop us anymore.

00:16:22.000 Libs of TikTok, what are you working on?

00:16:24.000 You just mentioned you've got the thread coming out.

00:16:27.000 Where should people go?

00:16:28.000 They can follow you, get access to your work.

00:16:31.000 So you can go to my sub stack, livesoftiktok.com, or just go on sub stack and find me.

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00:16:59.000 And of course, if we get suspended from everywhere, that's how I'm going to be able to continue spreading the word.

00:17:05.000 All right, Libs of TikTok, God bless you. 0.89

00:17:07.000 God bless you.

00:17:08.000 God bless your crusade in your fight for our children and the most vulnerable in this country.

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00:18:13.000 We're talking what should be done with the FBI.

00:18:16.000 The FBI are placing it on our medical examination table.

00:18:20.000 What should be done with these people?

00:18:22.000 They've gone, they've raided President Trump.

00:18:25.000 They defiled Mar-a-Lago.

00:18:26.000 We've now got the emails from John Solomon.

00:18:29.000 They broke their own protocol.

00:18:31.000 They didn't follow it.

00:18:32.000 They jumped the gun, jumped the fence, and decided to slam them.

00:18:35.000 And we were talking to some congressmen about reforming them.

00:18:39.000 We're talking to others about defunding the entire thing.

00:18:42.000 Dr. Julie Kelly, who said dismantle the whole deal. 1.00

00:18:45.000 John Solomon came on and said, let's create new agencies, divide the powers up. 0.84

00:18:50.000 There's a lot of things that are going on, but this plan, this idea of potentially turning, you know, taking or stripping them of their national security powers, putting it back into agencies that are only made for that purpose, and then not crossing the streams between national security and criminal cases, which it seems like that's the crux point that they still do again and again.

00:19:11.000 We've got so much going on.

00:19:12.000 We also have this Twitter whistleblower coming out.

00:19:14.000 So to help me chop some of the wood in terms of all that, we've got Shrub Sharma, who's here.

00:19:19.000 Thanks for having me.

00:19:20.000 He is the founder and president of American Moment, right?

00:19:23.000 That's right.

00:19:23.000 Founder and President.

00:19:24.000 And we are going to be going through in terms of all of this.

00:19:27.000 So when you would, let me just get your take.

00:19:29.000 I don't know if I've heard it on the shortly here on the show, but this Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:19:34.000 And then obviously, I mean, I'm assuming you're probably against it.

00:19:37.000 Yes.

00:19:38.000 I am, in fact, against political persecution.

00:19:41.000 Good, good, good.

00:19:41.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.

00:19:42.000 Otherwise, I have to have security drag out here.

00:19:44.000 But when it comes to the FBI, we have to figure out what we're going to do.

00:19:50.000 And we have to come up with a plan to actually deal with that, not just in the new Congress, but for when we do have the next president.

00:19:58.000 I do believe, I personally believe that that's going to be Donald Trump.

00:20:01.000 It will be the 47th president, or maybe it's 45 plus one.

00:20:04.000 I don't know how it works, right?

00:20:06.000 But when it comes down to it, walk me through your theory of the case on what happened there.

00:20:12.000 How do we get to this point?

00:20:14.000 Well, I think that there's a lot of different mistakes that Republicans and conservatives have made over the last 20 to 30 years that get you to the point where the FBI is completely co-opted in this way.

00:20:22.000 The biggest, I think, is that there was never any punishment for law enforcement and our national security agencies when they drifted left, when they weaponized law enforcement against their political enemies over the last 30 years.

00:20:35.000 You can see a lot of national Republicans that maybe don't understand what time it is in the country right now over the past few days say, well, well, you know, we oppose the raid on Mar-a-Lago, but we really, you know, we don't dislike the FBI and we need to be careful about our rhetoric.

00:20:48.000 I get that sentiment.

00:20:50.000 It's ultimately really mistaken because this is how the FBI has preserved its power and continued to drift left over the last few decades is that when they do something that pisses off the left, they get reprimanded in a really serious way.

00:21:03.000 There's congressional investigations, they lose funding, employees get fired, et cetera.

00:21:08.000 When they do something that pisses off the right, by and large, you get a tepid response from Washington because congressional leadership and the deep state are very deeply tied in with the leaders of the FBI.

00:21:17.000 And all conservative elites and media figures say is they'll wave a magic wand that says it's law enforcement and suddenly we're not allowed to criticize it.

00:21:25.000 That mindset needs to change.

00:21:27.000 And there's all sorts of different policy processes.

00:21:29.000 Here's the line that I threw this out on Twitter.

00:21:31.000 I've said on the show a couple of times.

00:21:32.000 I said, you can be pro-police and anti-police state.

00:21:36.000 Right, right.

00:21:37.000 It's not the same thing.

00:21:38.000 Yeah, we want law enforcement.

00:21:39.000 We're conservatives, right?

00:21:40.000 You know, we do want someone to be there actually enforcing the laws.

00:21:43.000 If it's child sex trafficking, if it's Twitter allowing these, you know, foreign agents to be wrapped up in their infrastructure, which apparently is something that's coming out with this whistleblower, if it's people robbing banks, if it's human smuggling on the border.

00:21:57.000 Sure, I want law enforcement to deal with these things.

00:22:00.000 I don't think that's something that should be the purview or should not be the purview of government in general.

00:22:06.000 But it's this idea that, as John Solomon outlined for us, is that we're now mixing national security agencies with criminal agencies.

00:22:15.000 And that was one of the biggest criticisms of what we did by making this superpowered, supercharged FBI in the wake of 9-11.

00:22:23.000 Right.

00:22:24.000 And to be very specific about why that's problematic, because I think sometimes this stuff can get a little bit esoteric for people.

00:22:29.000 The entire point of our national security agencies is they have powers that normal domestic law enforcement does not.

00:22:36.000 The reason why is because it usually applies to foreign citizens when it comes to their purview.

00:22:40.000 They have the ability to engage in things that we would rightfully recognize as unconstitutional and illegitimate when applied to domestic citizens of the United States. 0.95

00:22:49.000 And so when you have these duties blend together, when the line between the FBI and the CIA and the NSA starts to get blurred, you'll find that the guardrails, the checks and balances that exist in our system to ensure that ordinary patriots' constitutional rights are protected, they start to go away.

00:23:06.000 And what you've seen over the last few years, especially since President Trump came on the scene, is that former intelligence officials use the language of national security threats to talk about their political enemies, to talk about MAGA, to talk about America first, precisely so that they can set the table for this kind of abuse of power.

00:23:22.000 Well, right.

00:23:23.000 And you saw this, I mean, to put it in context for everybody.

00:23:26.000 So it wasn't that, remember, well, oh, no, we're not spying on General Flynn.

00:23:30.000 We're spying on the Russian ambassador.

00:23:32.000 We're spying on the people he's talking to.

00:23:34.000 But then we can unmask the name and then leak it to everybody, not only inside the Washington apparatus, but also to David Ignatius over at the Washington Post and say, oh, well, now here's all these highly classified, right?

00:23:46.000 You know, by the way, if we're talking about classified, I know not to play the double standard game, but that is actually one.

00:23:52.000 David Ignatius, somebody leaked that classified intelligence to him.

00:23:56.000 That was definitely top secret SCI.

00:23:58.000 And I don't recall anyone ever going to jail for leaking that to the Washington Post.

00:24:02.000 Well, because in Washington, the establishment media has more of a right to actually, you know, see top secret information than any conservative president that gets elected.

00:24:02.000 Do you?

00:24:13.000 People will say that to you open-handedly.

00:24:15.000 They'll say, well, the Washington Post, the New York Times, they're actually trustworthy.

00:24:18.000 Meanwhile, Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, the people he appointed to the presidency, those people can't be trusted because there's some sort of threat to democracy.

00:24:25.000 Meanwhile, you look at the actual results of the Trump administration, unprecedented peace and prosperity, and one of the most norms following presidents in American history, full stop, you're starting to see the backlash with what the Biden administration has actually done, where Merrick Garland has proven himself to be a complete and utter hack and these double standards are revealing themselves.

00:24:44.000 But right, I mean, the mainstream media gets to be hypocritical because it's not about hypocrisy, it's hierarchy, and they're at the top of the hierarchy.

00:24:51.000 Right.

00:24:52.000 And so, and I do hear this, and you know, that we do every we do everyone, we do every once in a while have to bring these up because it's just something throughout, but we're using it to illustrate a broader point: is that this hierarchy has been built on top of our constitution.

00:25:05.000 It's certainly built on top of our moon, but in many cases, it's been built with the support of our movement.

00:25:13.000 And when I hear, and I'm just going to say it, when I hear Sean Hannity say, well, I used to say that it was 99% of the FBI was good.

00:25:20.000 Maybe now it's only 95% of the FBI that's good.

00:25:24.000 I'm like, Sean, you know, no, man, you know, how long are you going to let these people snow you, right?

00:25:29.000 If we're talking about reforming them or Solomon has this idea, maybe new agencies and divide the powers up, however, it looks like, I say, take the 14 whistleblowers, put them in charge of whatever the new thing that's coming up.

00:25:40.000 But something that American Moment focuses on so much, and I wanted to ask you about this, is it's staffing, right?

00:25:47.000 It's staffing, getting the right people, because we certainly learned that with the Trump administration.

00:25:51.000 Personnel is policy.

00:25:53.000 Walk us through what you guys do and why that's your theory of the case.

00:25:56.000 So really, we founded our organization after the Trump administration kind of showed what happens when conservatives have a real opportunity to make change and in some cases, whiff at the ball because they didn't have the people that they needed in order to implement their agenda.

00:26:10.000 President Trump was undermined by people inside his own administration every single day by the political appointees that he nominated in order to help enact his agenda across the agencies and in the executive branch.

00:26:21.000 Here's an example of what maybe could have been.

00:26:23.000 Instead of doing the traditional Republican thing, which is nominate FBI insiders, respected career officials up to the top, bring someone in who's a reformer who will actually take a critical eye to the corruption of the agency, the waste, fraud, and abuse, and the mistakes that they've made and actually reform it.

00:26:40.000 Make them pay a price for the things that Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page and all these people, Jim Comey, were doing during the last year's deal.

00:26:48.000 I always say that when it comes to Peter Strzzok, when it was you want to understand how the federal bureaucracy looks at Trump supporters, go look at that text from Peter Strzok when he says, I see Trump supporters and I can smell Walmart.

00:27:02.000 I can smell Walmart on them.

00:27:05.000 And here's the thing, and you don't have to name names, but I guarantee that I don't even have, I haven't asked you this before off air.

00:27:11.000 You've probably heard that same sentiment from both sides of the aisle, haven't you?

00:27:15.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:27:16.000 There's plenty of Republicans and conservatives in DC that if they went to a local Tea Party meeting or a local GOP club, they'd have utter contempt for every single person in the room around them.

00:27:26.000 They don't actually like their voters.

00:27:28.000 Say what you want about Democrats.

00:27:29.000 Maybe they like their voters, maybe they don't, but at least they pretend to, and they're very good at protecting their client interests.

00:27:35.000 Just look today, they're giving them student loan forgiveness.

00:27:38.000 They do these massive welfare programs.

00:27:39.000 There's plenty of cash for your side.

00:27:41.000 Meanwhile, on the right in DC, the last thing you can talk about is how should we enact an agenda that actually benefits the interests of our voters as opposed to the moneyed interests on Wall Street or Fortune 500 companies or their friends in this town.

00:27:54.000 Most Republicans and conservatives in DC have utter contempt for the voters.

00:27:58.000 And that's one of the things that I think needs to change the mindset we have when it comes to what people come to this town to do.

00:28:03.000 Look, there's always going to be things that need to be done in DC.

00:28:06.000 There's always going to be a class of people who have to move the levers of power and get things done when we elect conservative presidents, congressmen, and create public policy organizations. 0.61

00:28:14.000 I'd like to help fill them with people who actually like the voters of this country and are interested in implementing an agenda that would benefit them and their interests.

00:28:22.000 And so when we're talking about this, you know, we're not just talking, by the way, about congressmen, we're also talking about staffers.

00:28:27.000 And that's something you focus particularly on.

00:28:29.000 Why is it that you focus on staffers?

00:28:31.000 Because a thousand times over the last few decades, a lot of really great people in a congressional district will get together.

00:28:38.000 They'll elect one of their own to go to DC, represent their interests.

00:28:41.000 They're so excited.

00:28:42.000 He's going to fight.

00:28:42.000 He's conservative.

00:28:43.000 And he comes to DC and he whiffs. 0.99

00:28:45.000 He's almost universally worse than the person that the voters elected him to be.

00:28:50.000 This is the story of basically every single Republican congressman.

00:28:53.000 Oh, right.

00:28:54.000 My favorite example.

00:28:55.000 Sure, that's a great example.

00:28:56.000 And how does that happen?

00:28:57.000 Is that this town, the staff that actually member of Congress able to do his job, the 10 to 20 people that they end up hiring, they have way more influence over the work product that comes out of your average congressional office and how a member of Congress votes than any voter realizes.

00:29:13.000 And so if they're surrounded by people when they come to DC that are, you know, really the kinds of people who work for either party, who don't particularly care about any issues, they don't care about the voters.

00:29:23.000 They're just here to go along, get along, collect a paycheck.

00:29:26.000 No wonder conservative congressmen drift towards the center over time, even become left-wing.

00:29:30.000 This is a story that unfortunately isn't going to change unless we start to pay attention to the people who no one elects.

00:29:37.000 These 23 to 29 year olds in some cases that end up running the show because every member of Congress is busy traveling back and forth from the district.

00:29:46.000 They're spending time with their family.

00:29:47.000 They're raising money.

00:29:48.000 They're going on.

00:29:50.000 They're not reading bills.

00:29:51.000 And so the question is: who is reading those bills and how do we make sure that it's the right people who share the America First agenda?

00:29:57.000 I think people need to know that we do have a program and there are programs.

00:30:01.000 Turning point, obviously, is another group that focuses on this.

00:30:05.000 Turning point is always looking to identify people coming up that are younger but are on board with everything that we ascribe to, but also understand the need of reforms.

00:30:15.000 Look, someone feels like they just want a job.

00:30:17.000 They want to do the next thing.

00:30:17.000 They just want a job.

00:30:18.000 Then they see some, you know, some nonprofits and NGOs.

00:30:21.000 They go there.

00:30:22.000 Oh, how much money can I make?

00:30:23.000 Am I going to have a cool title?

00:30:24.000 Whatever.

00:30:25.000 Am I going to get a TV maybe?

00:30:26.000 And that's it.

00:30:27.000 And that's the entire White House, the Biden White House right now, is full of those people.

00:30:30.000 They're running the White House right now.

00:30:32.000 But I want to cut that off at its knees and I want to actually start something real.

00:30:36.000 We're just seeing news coming across the desk.

00:30:41.000 Just since this morning, eight videos from Charlie Kirk, 10 Don Jr. demonetized a mass demonetization is underway on Facebook of conservative videos prior to the midterm elections.

00:30:53.000 We're basically in the middle of the midterm elections now.

00:30:55.000 Of course, we're doing it in the August lull before we get back into the fall and more people are paying attention.

00:31:00.000 Yesterday, we had the story that TikTok and Facebook are joining up.

00:31:04.000 TikTok, by the way, is going to be censoring people based on quote election misinformation.

00:31:09.000 They're going to be knocking down on this stuff.

00:31:11.000 Then, and we were just talking about this, the Twitter whistleblower has come out this morning talking about all the national security threats of Twitter, the fact that this thing has been a revolving door for foreign intelligence agencies since its inception, probably, not to mention lying about bots and spam and everything else.

00:31:28.000 So it looks like Elon Musk may have actually been right on that.

00:31:31.000 But in the face of that, and so I want to get your take on this because you're a systems guy, and that's why I like talking to you: is that, and over at American Moment, that's what you focus on: the system.

00:31:41.000 What do we do with this system?

00:31:43.000 Is this parallel economy?

00:31:46.000 Truth and Rumble, massive news this morning.

00:31:48.000 Creators can get paid now by going to truth, posting videos.

00:31:53.000 I hope Getter unlocks reveals something like this.

00:31:58.000 But why is it so important that conservatives and just people who aren't on board with the establishment are building these new structures now?

00:32:07.000 It's extremely important because the story when it comes to tech platforms is actually very similar to the story when it comes to the FBI, an institution that got away with murder for the last several decades, actually being held to account.

00:32:19.000 The same thing needs to happen with the tech platforms.

00:32:21.000 It needs to happen across our entire economy.

00:32:24.000 What have YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, all these mainstream platforms done over the last decade?

00:32:28.000 They basically took it for granted that the only activists that they had to listen to were the ones on the far left, that they could censor people, that they could demonetize content, that they could close the Overton window of what's acceptable to post on these platforms purely against the right for years.

00:32:44.000 And what did this town say?

00:32:46.000 It said, oh, that's fine.

00:32:47.000 That's the free market.

00:32:48.000 No worries.

00:32:48.000 And all of a sudden, Johnny come lately, Republicans are starting to pay attention to the big tech issue, but it might be too late.

00:32:54.000 And so, in parallel with actually regulating these companies, fighting them on Section 230, antitrust, and all these other issues, we need to be building actual alternatives because these incumbents are ripe for takedown.

00:33:05.000 They're old.

00:33:06.000 They're constantly obsessed with social justice.

00:33:09.000 They're not actually innovating anymore.

00:33:10.000 And so, when companies like Truth and Rumble and alternative payment processors and manufacturing companies and consumer goods come up, we need to patronize them.

00:33:19.000 Now, look, I understand why it can sometimes be difficult, right?

00:33:21.000 Sometimes these products are not as clean and easy as the incumbents because they haven't had as many years to cook in the oven.

00:33:28.000 However, when a product comes along that's really trying, that is a baseline, competent, well-run product like Truth, like Rumble, we have a moral responsibility to take a little bit of extra effort to actually put ourselves on there and start putting content there because that's the only way you're actually going to break the incumbent power of these massive corporations is if one of two things happens.

00:33:49.000 Either they go away completely because they get completely surplanted by these other platforms, or the actual competition from this perspective forces them to start behaving better and oppress conservative voices.

00:34:00.000 Well, you know, it's going to get to the point where you're going to have the national security state and big tech platforms working together.

00:34:06.000 And let's say, if I want to talk about Ruby Ridge, if I want to talk about Waco, if I want to talk about the times that you just said, the FBI literally got away with murder, they're going to say, oh, that's misinformation.

00:34:16.000 You can't talk about that.

00:34:17.000 Or if I'm going to say that, well, I'm not sure if I buy the official story on the Las Vegas shooter, for example.

00:34:24.000 Oh, no, no motive.

00:34:25.000 And he just felt like doing what?

00:34:27.000 They're going to say, oh, you're not allowed to do to talk about that because that's harmful to democracy, misinformation, or use whatever line they want to come up with.

00:34:35.000 Do you think that, and just ask you a final question and then give us your coordinates?

00:34:40.000 Do you think regulating tech as a utility makes sense?

00:34:46.000 It does.

00:34:47.000 It's one of many ideas that I think could work, but it's the pipes.

00:34:50.000 It's how information is communicated.

00:34:51.000 To me, it feels like a pipe.

00:34:52.000 Absolutely.

00:34:53.000 It feels like a pipe.

00:34:54.000 It feels like it's a means of communication, means of conveyance of communication.

00:34:57.000 Where can people find you?

00:34:58.000 Where can people get access to your work?

00:34:59.000 AmericanMoment.org at AM Moment.

00:35:03.000 And I'm at S Sharma US.

00:35:05.000 All right.

00:35:05.000 Thank you so much for joining us here, Charlie Kirk Show.

00:35:07.000 Jack Pesobic filling in.

00:35:08.000 Make sure to hit subscribe, like freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:12.000 Make sure you're also going everywhere to download the podcast.

00:35:16.000 Myself, my own Joe, Human Events Daily, 10 p.m. coming up on Real America's Voice.

00:35:21.000 And folks, I know, I know, I was a little rough on you this morning.

00:35:26.000 I stressed the system.

00:35:28.000 We did, but America worked it. 0.99

00:35:32.000 We need to find a way to figure out a way out of this mess.

00:35:37.000 And that means bringing people together, even if it's somebody that we disagree with on many, issues.

00:35:45.000 If we can come to agreement on our terms, we can get clarity.

00:35:49.000 Even if we don't have consensus, we can find clarity and find a way forward.

00:35:53.000 Jack Kosovic, filling in.

00:35:55.000 Charlie Kirk is on assignment.

00:35:57.000 God bless all of you.

00:35:58.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:36:01.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 24, 2022

Blowing the Whistle on the 'G Word' with Libs of TikTok and Saurabh Sharma

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