00:00:28.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:35.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:41.000Well, I think it's really hard for them to see what they themselves believe in.
00:01:47.000And they thought for so long and they still think that, you know, they can just do whatever they want to do, groom kids and doctorate goods, and no one would notice.
00:01:59.000And it's like, and they could also gaslight us and say, you know, it's not happening, like they famously did with CRT and with the grooming in schools.
00:02:08.000And then I come and I'm like, here, this is you guys saying that it is happening.
00:02:12.000And it just throws a wrench in their whole agenda and they can't stand to see it.
00:02:17.000Now, did I see, and you've experienced a few bans lately, right?
00:02:21.000So what kind of bans have you been getting?
00:02:23.000Because they're coming down hard on you over this Boston Children's Hospital story that you've been working on.
00:02:29.000What kind of responses have you been seeing and bans over the last few days?
00:02:59.000Well, and this is why, and we haven't, we actually haven't talked about the story very much today, but I know that you, you use Truth Social.
00:04:00.000So, as someone who's a creator like yourself, and I think you've said it before, I've heard you say that you never really intended to become this big.
00:04:07.000How big of a deal is it to you to be able to have this feature now through true social and potential others in terms of parallel economy actually be able to fund your mission?
00:04:19.000I think we really need more avenues for getting our message out because we know obviously we can't rely on big tech.
00:04:28.000We can't rely on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, YouTube.
00:04:32.000So, it's really important that we have other platforms to be able to send our message that we know we're not going to be censored on, and not just to spread our message, but to also be able to monetize that.
00:04:48.000I think that's really important and it's great news.
00:04:53.000And so, one of the hugest deals with this is that when we understand they want to shut people down, they want to shut down this ability to monetize.
00:05:02.000They want to shut down this ability for people in the movement, right, to be able to grow because you have to be able to have to monetize, you have to grow the movement, you have to get everything in place.
00:05:13.000Because we know that networking and bringing people together, if we're on just their networks, they will starve us.
00:05:20.000They will starve every single one of us and they can start the movement.
00:05:23.000As you said, the left pays its activists.
00:05:26.000Yet on the right, we haven't seen that structure built up yet.
00:05:28.000Because I keep saying this, the right is a generation behind the left when it comes to this stuff.
00:05:33.000And so, now we're finally getting to the place where we're seeing.
00:05:36.000Because, of course, you know, you go up on Instagram Reels, you try to go Facebook monetization, they will ban the right 10 times more than the left.
00:05:44.000And I want to ask you about: do you even realize, or what do you say about the impact that you've had?
00:05:52.000I think you've done more to expose these people with their own words, by the way, their literal owners than anyone in recent memory.
00:05:59.000You're arguably the biggest threat to wokeness in America right now.
00:06:02.000Did you ever realize that you would have this kind of impact?
00:06:05.000Uh, never realized, and people ask me all the time, uh, you know, at what point when was it that you realized?
00:06:12.000And I'm like, I don't, I don't think I could pinpoint a specific time that I was like, oh, wow, I'm onto something really great.
00:06:21.000I, it just, it was, it all progressed just naturally.
00:06:27.000Um, and it wasn't, there was no calculated decision in the beginning, you know, I have to start exposing this, and this is what I'm going to do, and this is the plan.
00:06:35.000It all just happened naturally, it progressed, and it became this huge, influential force for exposing the left.
00:06:44.000And I, I mean, I guess when I first started seeing my content being used, um, like on Fox News, like Tucker was playing a video that I had, and I'm like, wow, I guess that was, you know, that's really cool.
00:06:56.000Now, now, obviously, I'm used to it, but um, when it first started, I guess, being picked up, that's when by all these big media outlets, that's that's when I was like, wow, I think I'm on to something big.
00:07:08.000Well, and what's what's crazy to me is that it's you know, people will say, Oh, you're you're doing this, you're targeting people, you're going after them.
00:07:17.000Um, you've been doxxed by Taylor Renz, you've been harassed by her, your family's been harassed by her.
00:07:23.000Then at the same time, they'll go and do the exact same tactics to you and to your family that they claim you're doing.
00:07:29.000But again, all you're doing is taking videos that people have publicly posted on social media, in many cases, people who are in positions of authority, whether that's in political, whether it's medical, social, economic, doesn't matter.
00:07:42.000You're actually out there on the front lines doing the work where these, you know, these people, you know, they want to misquote.
00:08:17.000But now we're starting to expose, you know, quite a few hospitals.
00:08:24.000I'm actually dropping a thread as soon as I'm done this interview, another children's hospital.
00:08:30.000And this is opening up a whole nother door.
00:08:33.000And the more I dig into it, the more petrifying this is and horrifying.
00:08:40.000And we see what's going on in the medical field.
00:08:42.000And now this is what I'm going to be focusing on now.
00:08:46.000But I would say the teachers are, there's a lot of groomer teachers, a lot.
00:08:51.000And then it's kind of like a pipeline, I guess.
00:08:55.000They're bringing them into the children's hospitals to start their gender journey.
00:09:00.000And then they're getting mutilated and castrated.
00:09:04.000And it's just, it's so, it's so horrifying.
00:09:08.000But I'm going to do everything I can to expose every single last one of them.
00:09:12.000I would love to, because this, this is absolutely fascinating.
00:09:14.000The fact that, you know, we were talking before about the problems in our government, but I think you're going right to the heart of the issue.
00:09:21.000These are the problems, not out in the imperial capital.
00:09:31.000But this is happening so far because it's been so pervasive.
00:09:34.000And because of your work, and I want people to understand it, go follow LibDiv TikTok across all platforms.
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00:12:33.000So, tell me, what are you uncovering that's going on in our country when it comes to what's essentially the mutilation of our children?
00:12:41.000So, yeah, the left will gaslight us and say that minors are not receiving gender-affirming surgery.
00:12:50.000And when I say gender-affirming, I mean double mastectomies, thallopasty, vaginopasties.
00:12:56.000They never give you the exact context because they don't want you to know what they're referring to.
00:13:01.000They'll just say gender-affirming because it sounds really nice and sweet, and you're just helping a child.
00:13:06.000But in actuality, they are chopping off healthy body parts of young kids.
00:13:12.000And the more I'm looking into all of these children's hospitals, the more I'm realizing how common this is.
00:13:19.000So, almost every single hospital that I've looked at so far, and I have quite a few already lined up that I'm looking into and preparing reports on.
00:13:27.000They're all doing mastectomies on minors.
00:13:32.000And the world, the WPAF guidelines, they just changed their guidelines to actually say that you can do, they want to lower the age for surgeries and for puberty blockers, for cross-sex hormones.
00:14:09.000I'm going to call out every single hospital, and they're going to have to answer for why they are chopping off the genitals and the breasts of healthy kids and suppressing kids' puberty.
00:14:22.000And there's a lot of negative side effects, and they're giving kids cross-sex hormones.
00:14:27.000And they've just been doing this for years, and nobody has been doing anything about it.
00:14:31.000God bless you for digging into this, for exposing the fact that we have this festering wound in our country.
00:14:37.000I don't know if you saw it, but we had Diva Fry on yesterday, and he explained that Canada, Canada, which is ahead of us on this, they're ahead of the curve.
00:14:48.000Not only is euthanasia being allowed across the country, but they're also going to, I believe next year, the TrueGo government is either going to do this.
00:14:57.000They're going to be allowing mature minors to choose medically assisted euthanasia over what they deem anxiety, mental health issues, stress.
00:15:09.000So, they're pushing all of this, like the things that you just talked about, they're pushing all that in Canada, but now they're adding the additional element of allowing euthanasia for what they call mature.
00:15:22.000Yeah, I mean, there's, I don't think there's such a thing as a mature minor.
00:16:28.000They can follow you, get access to your work.
00:16:31.000So you can go to my sub stack, livesoftiktok.com, or just go on sub stack and find me.
00:16:36.000That's where I drop my bigger stories, my more important stories that require more context and information than just a Twitter card could provide.
00:16:46.000And I'm also dropping a massive bombshell on my sub stack this week, an exclusive bombshell.
00:18:32.000They jumped the gun, jumped the fence, and decided to slam them.
00:18:35.000And we were talking to some congressmen about reforming them.
00:18:39.000We're talking to others about defunding the entire thing.
00:18:42.000Dr. Julie Kelly, who said dismantle the whole deal.
00:18:45.000John Solomon came on and said, let's create new agencies, divide the powers up.
00:18:50.000There's a lot of things that are going on, but this plan, this idea of potentially turning, you know, taking or stripping them of their national security powers, putting it back into agencies that are only made for that purpose, and then not crossing the streams between national security and criminal cases, which it seems like that's the crux point that they still do again and again.
00:20:14.000Well, I think that there's a lot of different mistakes that Republicans and conservatives have made over the last 20 to 30 years that get you to the point where the FBI is completely co-opted in this way.
00:20:22.000The biggest, I think, is that there was never any punishment for law enforcement and our national security agencies when they drifted left, when they weaponized law enforcement against their political enemies over the last 30 years.
00:20:35.000You can see a lot of national Republicans that maybe don't understand what time it is in the country right now over the past few days say, well, well, you know, we oppose the raid on Mar-a-Lago, but we really, you know, we don't dislike the FBI and we need to be careful about our rhetoric.
00:20:50.000It's ultimately really mistaken because this is how the FBI has preserved its power and continued to drift left over the last few decades is that when they do something that pisses off the left, they get reprimanded in a really serious way.
00:21:03.000There's congressional investigations, they lose funding, employees get fired, et cetera.
00:21:08.000When they do something that pisses off the right, by and large, you get a tepid response from Washington because congressional leadership and the deep state are very deeply tied in with the leaders of the FBI.
00:21:17.000And all conservative elites and media figures say is they'll wave a magic wand that says it's law enforcement and suddenly we're not allowed to criticize it.
00:21:40.000You know, we do want someone to be there actually enforcing the laws.
00:21:43.000If it's child sex trafficking, if it's Twitter allowing these, you know, foreign agents to be wrapped up in their infrastructure, which apparently is something that's coming out with this whistleblower, if it's people robbing banks, if it's human smuggling on the border.
00:21:57.000Sure, I want law enforcement to deal with these things.
00:22:00.000I don't think that's something that should be the purview or should not be the purview of government in general.
00:22:06.000But it's this idea that, as John Solomon outlined for us, is that we're now mixing national security agencies with criminal agencies.
00:22:15.000And that was one of the biggest criticisms of what we did by making this superpowered, supercharged FBI in the wake of 9-11.
00:22:24.000And to be very specific about why that's problematic, because I think sometimes this stuff can get a little bit esoteric for people.
00:22:29.000The entire point of our national security agencies is they have powers that normal domestic law enforcement does not.
00:22:36.000The reason why is because it usually applies to foreign citizens when it comes to their purview.
00:22:40.000They have the ability to engage in things that we would rightfully recognize as unconstitutional and illegitimate when applied to domestic citizens of the United States.
00:22:49.000And so when you have these duties blend together, when the line between the FBI and the CIA and the NSA starts to get blurred, you'll find that the guardrails, the checks and balances that exist in our system to ensure that ordinary patriots' constitutional rights are protected, they start to go away.
00:23:06.000And what you've seen over the last few years, especially since President Trump came on the scene, is that former intelligence officials use the language of national security threats to talk about their political enemies, to talk about MAGA, to talk about America first, precisely so that they can set the table for this kind of abuse of power.
00:23:23.000And you saw this, I mean, to put it in context for everybody.
00:23:26.000So it wasn't that, remember, well, oh, no, we're not spying on General Flynn.
00:23:30.000We're spying on the Russian ambassador.
00:23:32.000We're spying on the people he's talking to.
00:23:34.000But then we can unmask the name and then leak it to everybody, not only inside the Washington apparatus, but also to David Ignatius over at the Washington Post and say, oh, well, now here's all these highly classified, right?
00:23:46.000You know, by the way, if we're talking about classified, I know not to play the double standard game, but that is actually one.
00:23:52.000David Ignatius, somebody leaked that classified intelligence to him.
00:23:58.000And I don't recall anyone ever going to jail for leaking that to the Washington Post.
00:24:02.000Well, because in Washington, the establishment media has more of a right to actually, you know, see top secret information than any conservative president that gets elected.
00:24:13.000People will say that to you open-handedly.
00:24:15.000They'll say, well, the Washington Post, the New York Times, they're actually trustworthy.
00:24:18.000Meanwhile, Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, the people he appointed to the presidency, those people can't be trusted because there's some sort of threat to democracy.
00:24:25.000Meanwhile, you look at the actual results of the Trump administration, unprecedented peace and prosperity, and one of the most norms following presidents in American history, full stop, you're starting to see the backlash with what the Biden administration has actually done, where Merrick Garland has proven himself to be a complete and utter hack and these double standards are revealing themselves.
00:24:44.000But right, I mean, the mainstream media gets to be hypocritical because it's not about hypocrisy, it's hierarchy, and they're at the top of the hierarchy.
00:24:52.000And so, and I do hear this, and you know, that we do every we do everyone, we do every once in a while have to bring these up because it's just something throughout, but we're using it to illustrate a broader point: is that this hierarchy has been built on top of our constitution.
00:25:05.000It's certainly built on top of our moon, but in many cases, it's been built with the support of our movement.
00:25:13.000And when I hear, and I'm just going to say it, when I hear Sean Hannity say, well, I used to say that it was 99% of the FBI was good.
00:25:20.000Maybe now it's only 95% of the FBI that's good.
00:25:24.000I'm like, Sean, you know, no, man, you know, how long are you going to let these people snow you, right?
00:25:29.000If we're talking about reforming them or Solomon has this idea, maybe new agencies and divide the powers up, however, it looks like, I say, take the 14 whistleblowers, put them in charge of whatever the new thing that's coming up.
00:25:40.000But something that American Moment focuses on so much, and I wanted to ask you about this, is it's staffing, right?
00:25:47.000It's staffing, getting the right people, because we certainly learned that with the Trump administration.
00:25:53.000Walk us through what you guys do and why that's your theory of the case.
00:25:56.000So really, we founded our organization after the Trump administration kind of showed what happens when conservatives have a real opportunity to make change and in some cases, whiff at the ball because they didn't have the people that they needed in order to implement their agenda.
00:26:10.000President Trump was undermined by people inside his own administration every single day by the political appointees that he nominated in order to help enact his agenda across the agencies and in the executive branch.
00:26:21.000Here's an example of what maybe could have been.
00:26:23.000Instead of doing the traditional Republican thing, which is nominate FBI insiders, respected career officials up to the top, bring someone in who's a reformer who will actually take a critical eye to the corruption of the agency, the waste, fraud, and abuse, and the mistakes that they've made and actually reform it.
00:26:40.000Make them pay a price for the things that Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page and all these people, Jim Comey, were doing during the last year's deal.
00:26:48.000I always say that when it comes to Peter Strzzok, when it was you want to understand how the federal bureaucracy looks at Trump supporters, go look at that text from Peter Strzok when he says, I see Trump supporters and I can smell Walmart.
00:27:16.000There's plenty of Republicans and conservatives in DC that if they went to a local Tea Party meeting or a local GOP club, they'd have utter contempt for every single person in the room around them.
00:27:26.000They don't actually like their voters.
00:27:41.000Meanwhile, on the right in DC, the last thing you can talk about is how should we enact an agenda that actually benefits the interests of our voters as opposed to the moneyed interests on Wall Street or Fortune 500 companies or their friends in this town.
00:27:54.000Most Republicans and conservatives in DC have utter contempt for the voters.
00:27:58.000And that's one of the things that I think needs to change the mindset we have when it comes to what people come to this town to do.
00:28:03.000Look, there's always going to be things that need to be done in DC.
00:28:06.000There's always going to be a class of people who have to move the levers of power and get things done when we elect conservative presidents, congressmen, and create public policy organizations.
00:28:14.000I'd like to help fill them with people who actually like the voters of this country and are interested in implementing an agenda that would benefit them and their interests.
00:28:22.000And so when we're talking about this, you know, we're not just talking, by the way, about congressmen, we're also talking about staffers.
00:28:27.000And that's something you focus particularly on.
00:28:57.000Is that this town, the staff that actually member of Congress able to do his job, the 10 to 20 people that they end up hiring, they have way more influence over the work product that comes out of your average congressional office and how a member of Congress votes than any voter realizes.
00:29:13.000And so if they're surrounded by people when they come to DC that are, you know, really the kinds of people who work for either party, who don't particularly care about any issues, they don't care about the voters.
00:29:23.000They're just here to go along, get along, collect a paycheck.
00:29:26.000No wonder conservative congressmen drift towards the center over time, even become left-wing.
00:29:30.000This is a story that unfortunately isn't going to change unless we start to pay attention to the people who no one elects.
00:29:37.000These 23 to 29 year olds in some cases that end up running the show because every member of Congress is busy traveling back and forth from the district.
00:29:46.000They're spending time with their family.
00:29:51.000And so the question is: who is reading those bills and how do we make sure that it's the right people who share the America First agenda?
00:29:57.000I think people need to know that we do have a program and there are programs.
00:30:01.000Turning point, obviously, is another group that focuses on this.
00:30:05.000Turning point is always looking to identify people coming up that are younger but are on board with everything that we ascribe to, but also understand the need of reforms.
00:30:15.000Look, someone feels like they just want a job.
00:30:27.000And that's the entire White House, the Biden White House right now, is full of those people.
00:30:30.000They're running the White House right now.
00:30:32.000But I want to cut that off at its knees and I want to actually start something real.
00:30:36.000We're just seeing news coming across the desk.
00:30:41.000Just since this morning, eight videos from Charlie Kirk, 10 Don Jr. demonetized a mass demonetization is underway on Facebook of conservative videos prior to the midterm elections.
00:30:53.000We're basically in the middle of the midterm elections now.
00:30:55.000Of course, we're doing it in the August lull before we get back into the fall and more people are paying attention.
00:31:00.000Yesterday, we had the story that TikTok and Facebook are joining up.
00:31:04.000TikTok, by the way, is going to be censoring people based on quote election misinformation.
00:31:09.000They're going to be knocking down on this stuff.
00:31:11.000Then, and we were just talking about this, the Twitter whistleblower has come out this morning talking about all the national security threats of Twitter, the fact that this thing has been a revolving door for foreign intelligence agencies since its inception, probably, not to mention lying about bots and spam and everything else.
00:31:28.000So it looks like Elon Musk may have actually been right on that.
00:31:31.000But in the face of that, and so I want to get your take on this because you're a systems guy, and that's why I like talking to you: is that, and over at American Moment, that's what you focus on: the system.
00:31:46.000Truth and Rumble, massive news this morning.
00:31:48.000Creators can get paid now by going to truth, posting videos.
00:31:53.000I hope Getter unlocks reveals something like this.
00:31:58.000But why is it so important that conservatives and just people who aren't on board with the establishment are building these new structures now?
00:32:07.000It's extremely important because the story when it comes to tech platforms is actually very similar to the story when it comes to the FBI, an institution that got away with murder for the last several decades, actually being held to account.
00:32:19.000The same thing needs to happen with the tech platforms.
00:32:21.000It needs to happen across our entire economy.
00:32:24.000What have YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, all these mainstream platforms done over the last decade?
00:32:28.000They basically took it for granted that the only activists that they had to listen to were the ones on the far left, that they could censor people, that they could demonetize content, that they could close the Overton window of what's acceptable to post on these platforms purely against the right for years.
00:32:48.000And all of a sudden, Johnny come lately, Republicans are starting to pay attention to the big tech issue, but it might be too late.
00:32:54.000And so, in parallel with actually regulating these companies, fighting them on Section 230, antitrust, and all these other issues, we need to be building actual alternatives because these incumbents are ripe for takedown.
00:33:06.000They're constantly obsessed with social justice.
00:33:09.000They're not actually innovating anymore.
00:33:10.000And so, when companies like Truth and Rumble and alternative payment processors and manufacturing companies and consumer goods come up, we need to patronize them.
00:33:19.000Now, look, I understand why it can sometimes be difficult, right?
00:33:21.000Sometimes these products are not as clean and easy as the incumbents because they haven't had as many years to cook in the oven.
00:33:28.000However, when a product comes along that's really trying, that is a baseline, competent, well-run product like Truth, like Rumble, we have a moral responsibility to take a little bit of extra effort to actually put ourselves on there and start putting content there because that's the only way you're actually going to break the incumbent power of these massive corporations is if one of two things happens.
00:33:49.000Either they go away completely because they get completely surplanted by these other platforms, or the actual competition from this perspective forces them to start behaving better and oppress conservative voices.
00:34:00.000Well, you know, it's going to get to the point where you're going to have the national security state and big tech platforms working together.
00:34:06.000And let's say, if I want to talk about Ruby Ridge, if I want to talk about Waco, if I want to talk about the times that you just said, the FBI literally got away with murder, they're going to say, oh, that's misinformation.
00:34:27.000They're going to say, oh, you're not allowed to do to talk about that because that's harmful to democracy, misinformation, or use whatever line they want to come up with.
00:34:35.000Do you think that, and just ask you a final question and then give us your coordinates?
00:34:40.000Do you think regulating tech as a utility makes sense?