The Charlie Kirk Show - Borrowing from Peter To Pay...Peter?

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00:00:01.000 Senator Rand Paul joins the show about all things USAID. The first cabinet official to join the Charlie Kirk Show of this new administration, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Scott Turner.

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00:01:37.000 Joining us now is one of the most important members of the U.S. Senate.

00:01:42.000 An all-around amazing person, Senator Rand Paul.

00:01:45.000 Senator, great to see you.

00:01:47.000 Senator, I am rejoicing in seeing finally the country talking about USAID. You have been leading this charge for your entire senatorial career, trying to get people to care about transgender monkey surgeries in Senegal. 0.99

00:02:02.000 You did your annual Festivus report, and it seemed as if it just did not quite hit critical mass.

00:02:08.000 Now we have a national conversation and action around USAID. I know you have hearings about this tomorrow about Doge and USAID, but first, Senator, remind our audience about your great work on USAID and why you have done so much work trying to expose it.

00:02:23.000 We've been talking for a decade or more about the idea that when we run a deficit here at home, we shouldn't be borrowing money to send it anywhere.

00:02:31.000 So we send money all around the world, but it's all borrowed.

00:02:35.000 And now it comes to pass that we find that a lot of the spending is for ridiculous and outrageous things.

00:02:42.000 We discovered that $4.8 million was spent for social media influencers in Ukraine.

00:02:49.000 We discovered $3 million that was spent on girl-centric climate change in Brazil.

00:02:55.000 We discovered $2 million was spent trying to secure the border in Paraguay.

00:03:03.000 So the list goes on and on from trans operas to trans comic books, all the craziness. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Every left-wing idea you can imagine in the last several decades has been funded by the State Department and USAID.

00:03:16.000 But finally, you know, with the help of Elon Musk and with the Trump administration putting a padlock on the place, It's all coming out and nobody can defend it because it's so outrageous.

00:03:27.000 So, Senator, I have a question.

00:03:29.000 Has Congress specifically underwritten these projects?

00:03:33.000 Or is it more that they get a blank check and USAID then allocates it to their choosing?

00:03:39.000 And I'm asking for a specific reason.

00:03:41.000 Meaning, was USAID said, hey, here's $2 billion for this, $500 million for this?

00:03:46.000 Or has Congress specifically said, we want to have these outrageous projects?

00:03:52.000 Most of the time, money is allocated and USID will get a certain amount of millions or billions of dollars for all of the projects.

00:04:00.000 The individual projects are typically decided by the people who work over there.

00:04:04.000 But that's why you have to fumigate the place and why I think Rubio is doing a good job of letting most of these people go.

00:04:10.000 Most of them are left-wing people promoting an agenda.

00:04:14.000 So there is a need for a State Department.

00:04:17.000 It's a critical part of our government.

00:04:19.000 It should promote peace, diplomacy, Diplomacy discussions, but climate change, girl-centric climate change, influencers, trans operas, have nothing to do with peace or diplomacy.

00:04:30.000 They have to do with the left-wing agenda.

00:04:32.000 So really...

00:04:33.000 Changing the dollars and reducing the dollars is one way to go at it, but we also need to get rid of the people.

00:04:38.000 So I'm completely behind the Trump administration, fumigate the place, clean them out, get rid of these people who aren't really there for diplomacy, but they're there for their left-wing agenda.

00:04:49.000 But you're right that a lot of the money isn't specified necessarily when Congress passes a bill, but it's a lot of money.

00:04:55.000 We spend about $40 billion on foreign aid, which is mostly USAID, but then it's divided down into these crazy grants.

00:05:05.000 And that's why the more we know about the granular detail of how awful these grants are, the more inflamed the American public will be and more they be behind us in trying to reduce the spending over there.

00:05:16.000 Just to remind everyone, $1.5 million for advancing DEI in Serbia.

00:05:22.000 $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala, $6 million for tourism in Egypt, hundreds of thousands for meals that went to al-Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria.

00:05:31.000 We are feeding our enemies.

00:05:33.000 Senator, one of the more outrageous critiques that those of us that want to see USAID eliminated or even projects like this or DOGE will receive is, oh, that's only $100 million.

00:05:44.000 That's only $250 million.

00:05:47.000 That's only a couple billion dollars.

00:05:49.000 What is your response to the...

00:05:51.000 Where they try to diminish or they try to downplay the significance of these cuts.

00:05:58.000 Well, you know, it's an invalid argument because I can tell you that for anything you object to.

00:06:03.000 Anything you object to in government, I can say, well, that's not enough to balance the budget.

00:06:07.000 But it all does add up.

00:06:08.000 But even if it all added up to an amount that was only 5% of spending and it wasn't going to balance the budget.

00:06:15.000 Why wouldn't we be for opposing the worst and most egregious and outrageous spending that is out there?

00:06:21.000 I mean, we found hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent to study whether lonely rats use more cocaine than well-socialized rats.

00:06:31.000 So that kind of stuff, when you tell the American people it's being spent, they're outraged, and rightly so.

00:06:36.000 But we have to reduce the overall spending.

00:06:39.000 And will it balance the budget?

00:06:41.000 It's a tip of the spear.

00:06:42.000 or why not start with the most egregious stuff and keep going?

00:06:45.000 It's sort of like immigration.

00:06:47.000 We should end illegal immigration. 1.00

00:06:49.000 The people who came illegally should go home. 1.00

00:06:51.000 But we should definitely start with the most violent.

00:06:53.000 And that's not the entire problem.

00:06:56.000 But I think almost everybody agrees we should start with the most violent people.

00:06:59.000 And I think that's one of the things we're doing a pretty good job of.

00:07:02.000 The Trump administration is doing a good job of getting rid of the violent people.

00:07:05.000 I totally agree, sir.

00:07:07.000 So, Senator, tell us about your hearing tomorrow, what we can expect, and more broadly, how Congress...

00:07:13.000 Can buttress up against the incredibly important work of Doge right now?

00:07:17.000 So what we're going to do is it'll be a showcase.

00:07:20.000 It'll be a showcase for not only what we've found over the last 10 years from our Festivus, our waste report, our grievances about spending, also what Doge is finding, what others are finding.

00:07:31.000 And we will have people testify to that.

00:07:34.000 And I'm sure the Democrats will bring someone to testify why we need to continue all this aid.

00:07:40.000 My point is, even when you get beyond the Outrageous stuff, you know, the parades, the pride parades, and all the other kind of stuff they're doing. 1.00

00:07:49.000 Even when you get beyond that...

00:07:51.000 There is a question, even if it's something valid, like something that we're doing that people would say, oh, that's charitable, should you do that with borrowed money?

00:08:00.000 And the example I give is, if you make $25,000 a year and you have just enough money for rent and to pay for your family or for yourself, it's not that much money, would you, when you pass a homeless person, go into the first bank and borrow $1,000 to give it to a homeless person?

00:08:15.000 No, that's not the way people operate.

00:08:18.000 You have to take care of you and your family first.

00:08:20.000 You don't go into debt to help people through charity.

00:08:24.000 Charity comes out of what you have left over, what you can save in order to give for charity.

00:08:29.000 But the government shouldn't be any different.

00:08:31.000 We shouldn't be borrowing money.

00:08:32.000 We essentially are borrowing all the money we send to Ukraine, not just charitable money to Ukraine, but all the military, everything we send over there is borrowed.

00:08:40.000 We borrow it from China to send it to Ukraine. 0.91

00:08:43.000 Then everybody complains, what about China?

00:08:45.000 How are we going to be strong to stand up to China? 0.96

00:08:48.000 It's like, well, maybe we could quit.

00:08:50.000 Borrowing from China to pay Ukraine and to send USAID dollars all over the world.

00:08:56.000 So, yeah, the Trump administration is doing a great job bringing this ahead.

00:09:00.000 Our committee is going to try to shine a light on it.

00:09:02.000 And then we will come up with legislative proposals.

00:09:05.000 Ultimately, what they're doing at USAID is going to require Congress to rescind that money.

00:09:11.000 So my hope is they...

00:09:13.000 Send half of it back or most of it back to us and say, we're not going to spend it.

00:09:18.000 But then Congress, to make this all lawful and legal, is going to have to vote on what's called a rescission package.

00:09:24.000 But the good news is it can be done by simple majority privilege vote, meaning there's no filibuster.

00:09:30.000 So if the Trump administration says we're only going to spend half of the USAID money or we're only going to spend a tenth of it, we're going to give 80, 90 percent back.

00:09:39.000 A simple majority, which would mean only Republicans in the Senate and the House can rescind that money and we can start saving it.

00:09:46.000 So people need to realize this isn't the end of the deal.

00:09:49.000 Doge is the beginning.

00:09:51.000 Congress has to act.

00:09:52.000 And you have a lot of feckless Republicans up here who, if you watch closely, love USAID, love all the welfare, love all the foreign aid.

00:10:02.000 And so we have a big fight on our hands, and the people who watch your show need to realize they need to watch like a hawk their Republican representatives and make sure they will actually vote and cut this spending when it comes back.

00:10:14.000 This is so important, and Senator, we could not be more behind you, that the same way that we did full throttle pressure on Bobby Kennedy for HHS or Tulsi Gabbard for DNI or Pete Hegseth for DOD, we need full throttle pressure if there's going to be Republicans that are getting in the way of rescission we need full throttle pressure if there's going to be Republicans that

00:10:34.000 Understand that USAID right now that President Trump, Elon Musk, and the entire great team is going after right now is a bipartisan project for the last 30 years.

00:10:46.000 Yes, it is easy to just blame.

00:10:49.000 You know, Democrats right now, but it has been both parties that have grown this slush fund for the last 20 or 30 years.

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00:11:54.000 But I want to ask you just kind of a fun, lighthearted question.

00:11:57.000 I have been trying to push for your father, Ron Paul, to be chairman of the Federal Reserve.

00:12:03.000 You don't have to necessarily comment on that, but can you talk about the need for better leadership at the Federal Reserve?

00:12:09.000 Absolutely, he'd be great.

00:12:10.000 One of the great memes they had on the internet the other day was a picture of Elon Musk saying, Ron Paul, we need you back.

00:12:18.000 We need you back here to help us with this.

00:12:20.000 And it had a picture of my father sort of looking like he wasn't interested.

00:12:24.000 And then it had Elon Musk saying, We want you to be in charge of, you know, auditing the Fed.

00:12:29.000 And then it had a picture of my dad on a bicycle speeding back to Washington.

00:12:33.000 And no, he'd love nothing more to be part of auditing the Fed.

00:12:37.000 He's talked about it, you know, for 50 years now.

00:12:40.000 And it's still as necessary as it ever once was.

00:12:44.000 And no, he'd be great to be part of this.

00:12:46.000 And I love the fact that they've been talking about it and listening to some of the things he has to say about Doge as well.

00:12:53.000 And what an honorable, consistent warrior for liberty your father has been.

00:12:58.000 And what a great kind of end to a career to be chairman of the Federal Reserve.

00:13:03.000 Let's see.

00:13:03.000 I'll put a maybe on it.

00:13:04.000 So, Senator, finally, there's been some talk about judicial overreach that would justify ignoring a federal court.

00:13:10.000 Do you have any thoughts on that, on the tension between the two branches of government and specifically what's happening with Doge and Doge having access to information?

00:13:19.000 You know, I think it's kind of crazy.

00:13:21.000 Some of the left has gone after some of these young men that are helping Doge.

00:13:27.000 One of the young men won an award at the University of Nebraska for some amazing research.

00:13:32.000 They had these scrolls.

00:13:34.000 I think they were from Israel from maybe when the Romans invaded in 68 A.D. 2,000-year-old scrolls that were burned and they couldn't be read or unraveled or they'd fall apart.

00:13:45.000 And this young man, a computer science guy, looked at M.R. We should be lauding him and applauding him for helping Doge to reduce spending problems, and yet the left is doxing him and trying to get him attacked.

00:14:08.000 I think it's despicable.

00:14:09.000 No, I completely agree.

00:14:11.000 Senator, last question here, and thank you for being generous with your time.

00:14:14.000 I've been pushing for a while, and you've been pushing for even longer than I have, for the pardon commutation of Ross Ulbricht.

00:14:21.000 I know that you mentioned this to the president when you saw him recently.

00:14:24.000 Any comments on President Trump's pardon of Ross Ulbricht?

00:14:27.000 You know, we were really excited about it.

00:14:29.000 I spoke with the president in his first administration about it.

00:14:32.000 I've met with Ross's mom.

00:14:35.000 We've talked about it.

00:14:36.000 And it became kind of a libertarian cause because He was involved with something that was illegal, a website that had people trading drugs on it.

00:14:45.000 But he was given two life sentences.

00:14:47.000 And so I think the punishment should be proportional to the crime.

00:14:52.000 In this case, it was extremely disproportionate.

00:14:56.000 And so we were glad that the president granted the pardon.

00:14:58.000 He's still a relatively young man, but he spent 11, 12 years in prison.

00:15:02.000 And it'd be great for him to get out and be a productive member of society again.

00:15:06.000 I think this went a long way towards...

00:15:13.000 Senator, thank you so much.

00:15:21.000 We look forward to the hearing Thursday.

00:15:22.000 Thank you for your leadership.

00:15:23.000 We really appreciate it.

00:15:24.000 Thank you.

00:15:25.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.

00:15:30.000 I mean, Ron Paul being chairman of the Federal Reserve would be a game changer.

00:15:33.000 Having Ron Paul to be able to audit the Federal Reserve, that would be something else.

00:15:39.000 We'll do a whole show on the Fed and explaining the Federal Reserve at a future date.

00:15:45.000 Let's just go through some of the waste here of what USAID does.

00:15:49.000 It's worse than you realize.

00:15:51.000 $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid binary gendered language.

00:15:59.000 $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq.

00:16:03.000 Can we get a copy of that?

00:16:04.000 I am a U.S. taxpayer.

00:16:06.000 Can I get a copy of the Sesame Street?

00:16:09.000 I want to see it.

00:16:09.000 I want to understand the quality of production.

00:16:13.000 $20 million for a new Sesame Street show?

00:16:17.000 You better believe that's some sort of Hollywood racket, like reverse money laundering.

00:16:21.000 Let's go hire some Hollywood company to go do Iraqi Sesame.

00:16:27.000 Let's go do Kurdish Sesame Street. 1.00

00:16:29.000 And we have Sunni Elmo. 0.98

00:16:33.000 $4.5 million to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan.

00:16:37.000 $1.5 million for the art of inclusion of people with disabilities.

00:16:43.000 $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala.

00:16:48.000 $6 million to transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles.

00:16:55.000 $2.1 million to help the BBC to value the diversity of Libyan society.

00:17:03.000 $2.5 million to promote inclusion in Vietnam.

00:17:09.000 $16.8 million for a separate inclusion group in Vietnam.

00:17:14.000 $5 million to the EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs that funded bat virus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:17:23.000 $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax.

00:17:29.000 $1.1 million to the oldest Christian country in the world, Armenia, to fund an LGBT group.

00:17:37.000 $1.2 million to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in D.C. to build a 440-seat auditorium.

00:17:48.000 $1.3 million to Arab and Jewish photographers.

00:17:53.000 And $1.5 million to promote gay advocacy in Jamaica.

00:17:59.000 We the people check our visa bills every month.

00:18:02.000 Why can't our government check their invoices?

00:18:05.000 It's our money.

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00:19:12.000 Our next guest has the honor of being our first cabinet official of this new Trump administration on the program, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Scott Turner.

00:19:25.000 Great to see you and welcome to the program.

00:19:27.000 Hey, thank you, Charlie.

00:19:28.000 It's great to see you.

00:19:29.000 Thank you for having me.

00:19:31.000 First, it's great to meet you over the video.

00:19:34.000 I know we shook hands briefly during the inauguration.

00:19:37.000 Secretary, you have an incredible story.

00:19:39.000 Why don't you introduce your biography to the American people and to our audience?

00:19:45.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:19:46.000 And first, I'm happy to be with you again.

00:19:48.000 And thank you for all of your friendship and support.

00:19:50.000 To my dear friend and mentor, Dr. Ben Carson, you and your team have been wonderful to him.

00:19:56.000 And so I appreciate you.

00:19:57.000 You know, Charlie, I'm from Dallas, Texas.

00:20:00.000 I grew up there.

00:20:02.000 I'm a product.

00:20:03.000 I came from a broken home.

00:20:05.000 My mom and dad, who I love so much, they were divorced when I was a young boy.

00:20:10.000 And, you know, the stats would say, you know, that the odds were against me, you know, coming from a broken home, being, you know, in that type of situation.

00:20:17.000 But I was so blessed, you know, by the Lord to be able to graduate from the University of Illinois.

00:20:23.000 To be drafted in the National Football League and play nine seasons for the Redskins, the Chargers, and the Broncos, and then to serve in the Texas House there in District 33 in Northeast Collin County in Rockwall County.

00:20:36.000 And then after that, Charlie, you know, I was honored to work with Dr. Carson and his team to lead the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council, which dealt primarily with the Opportunity Zone policy in the first Trump administration.

00:20:50.000 And so I'm grateful to the president for that opportunity.

00:20:52.000 And now here, you know, back again to serve the American people.

00:20:57.000 My wife, Robin, and I are so honored and humbled to be able to be here and be a servant leader of HUD and work with this incredible team to serve the most vulnerable in our country as it pertains to housing.

00:21:11.000 So I'm honored to be here, Charlie.

00:21:13.000 I'm so grateful.

00:21:14.000 And I thank God for what he's done.

00:21:16.000 In my life and his grace and mercy to bring me to this point.

00:21:21.000 I love that story.

00:21:22.000 Thank you for that.

00:21:23.000 And as always, invoking the Lord in all that you do.

00:21:26.000 You are off to a very quick start.

00:21:28.000 Tell us about it.

00:21:29.000 You offered and ordered a secretarial order directing HUD to halt all payment and further enforcement to HUD's 2016 rule entitled Equal Access in Accordance with an Individual's Gender Identity.

00:21:42.000 Tell us about this monumental order that you issued.

00:21:45.000 Well, Charlie, you know, we do, we want to uphold, you know, one, first, you know, what the Bible says about, you know, the sex, there's male and female.

00:21:54.000 And also with President Trump's leadership, you know, and really nailing down from a government standpoint, you know, there's two sexes, male and female.

00:22:02.000 And so when you have HUD-funded shelters, for instance, when you have a shelter that is for women, we want to make sure that those shelters, the leadership of those shelters can properly identify the people coming in to those shelters.

00:22:16.000 Men should not be entering into a woman-only shelter. 0.99

00:22:21.000 And transgender men should not. 1.00

00:22:23.000 Women should not be able to enter into a women-only shelter. 1.00

00:22:26.000 A lot of times, women that are in these situations are there because they have experienced very difficult situations like domestic violence, which I know about.

00:22:35.000 I've seen it.

00:22:36.000 I understand it.

00:22:37.000 And so we want to protect the ladies of our country that are in these situations, that are in these shelters and know that they're in a safe place to where they can receive help and need in very difficult times.

00:22:49.000 And so we're very not just proud, but we're very strongly supportive of tearing down the equal access rule and protecting the ladies that are in these women only shelters and beyond.

00:23:01.000 You have said repeatedly that HUD has failed at its mission of serving the most vulnerable in our nation in the name of far left gender ideology.

00:23:11.000 Explain that further, please.

00:23:12.000 Well, you know, just in the first week, you know, after we took down the equal access rule, you know, the people on the left, the liberals on the left, they came after my Instagram and they took my Instagram down.

00:23:24.000 It's up again, you know, because we're going to continue this work.

00:23:27.000 It's not about politics for us.

00:23:29.000 It's about policy and it's about people and HUD, regardless of record funding.

00:23:35.000 For housing affordability, for homelessness, regardless of record funding, we are not serving or have not been up to this point serving the amount of people that we've been called to serve.

00:23:47.000 And so that's why we're here, you know, to make sure that we're maximizing the resources and maximizing the budget here at HUD and all of our personnel, all of our team members for this commission that we've been called to to serve the people of this country.

00:24:02.000 And so we are laser focused on this.

00:24:05.000 Charlie, to get everybody on one sound, one team, one voice moving, taking inventory at HUD to make sure the programs that we have here are doing exactly what they're supposed to do.

00:24:16.000 And the ones that aren't doing that, then you know what?

00:24:18.000 We need to get rid of those programs.

00:24:20.000 Here just recently, working with those and the team at HUD, we have found $260 million in savings on contracts alone.

00:24:30.000 You know, so with President Trump's leadership and finding...

00:24:34.000 All the waste, fraud, and abuse and streamlining our processes.

00:24:38.000 I'm happy to announce that we have found $260 million in savings already and to soon find more so that we're good stewards over taxpayer dollars.

00:24:48.000 That's extraordinary.

00:24:49.000 Let me just reiterate that you've been there for a week and you already found $260 million.

00:24:54.000 You're off to such a quick start where it could be in the billions.

00:24:57.000 Just so everyone understands, HUD's budget is $60 billion a year.

00:25:01.000 That's significant.

00:25:02.000 That's a lot of money, everybody.

00:25:03.000 $60 billion a year.

00:25:05.000 So if you save $5 or $6 billion, that's 10% cost savings.

00:25:10.000 If you then extrapolate that across the entire federal government and silence these critics, oh, it's only a billion, it's only that.

00:25:17.000 Hold on.

00:25:17.000 If every agency does their part for 10%, if every agency does their part, then we go from a $1.3 trillion deficit down to under a trillion.

00:25:27.000 I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars that we could save.

00:25:31.000 A billion here and a billion here.

00:25:32.000 It is.

00:25:37.000 And, you know, thank you for putting that together because that makes it real.

00:25:40.000 And, you know, we have a tremendous team here at HUD, and we're serious about...

00:25:45.000 Being faithful stewards over taxpayer dollars.

00:25:49.000 You know, the American people work very hard to pay taxes and to support the services.

00:25:54.000 And I'm speaking from a HUD standpoint.

00:25:57.000 And so, you know, our entire team, you know, we're very serious about being good servant leaders.

00:26:03.000 And just like we manage our own personal finances, you know, we want to make sure that we continue to identify, you know, savings at HUD so that we can serve the people that we've been called to serve.

00:26:15.000 So, Mr. Secretary, I want to dive deeper into one of the other elements here.

00:26:21.000 AFFH. What is AFFH and why should our audience be aware of it?

00:26:25.000 So AFFH was an Obama-era rule.

00:26:28.000 Really, Charlie, from a 30,000-foot view, it re-engineers neighborhoods and localities and states.

00:26:36.000 So if a locality is receiving HUD funding, it has to apply to the rules and regulations from AFFH, which it makes it harder for localities to build.

00:26:48.000 It makes it harder to build single-family homes.

00:26:50.000 It's cumbersome.

00:26:51.000 It's burdensome.

00:26:52.000 It's bureaucratic.

00:26:54.000 People on the left and on the right don't like it, even if they don't say they don't, because it makes it very, very hard.

00:27:03.000 Russ Vogt and our director of Vogt from the OMB and myself, according to the president's leadership, we are going after AFFH to restore the power, the flexibility, the rulemaking authority back to localities, back to states, because they understand their needs.

00:27:21.000 They understand the needs they have in their local neighborhoods.

00:27:25.000 And so the federal government should not be heavy-handed mandating how people zone or how people build in different localities.

00:27:33.000 Texas is different from Florida.

00:27:35.000 Florida is different from Ohio and Indiana and so on and so forth.

00:27:38.000 So we're going after AFFH to restore the power back to the states.

00:27:43.000 Under the president's leadership, we're working with Director Vogt.

00:27:47.000 So we're very excited about this.

00:27:49.000 We want to restore the American dream to the suburban neighborhoods of America, you know, to build single-family homes so that people can be on a pathway to home ownership.

00:27:58.000 And when you have these burdensome and regulatory policies, it makes it that much harder to do so.

00:28:07.000 So thank you for bringing it up, Charlie, because we're very excited about going out to AFFH.

00:28:12.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 So finally, I want you to capture the imagination of our audience.

00:28:15.000 Opportunity zones, beautiful new cities.

00:28:18.000 Talk about the positive stuff, not just cutting the waste, because that needs to happen, but capture the imagination of our audience.

00:28:24.000 What is the vision for HUD and what you want to deliver for the American people when it comes to something as fundamental as housing?

00:28:31.000 Right.

00:28:32.000 So when you look at HUD, you know, HUD's mission is to serve, you know, low to moderate and very low-income people in our country as it pertains to housing.

00:28:41.000 Housing affordability right now is at an all-time high.

00:28:45.000 People cannot afford to buy housing.

00:28:47.000 Homelessness, according to the latest report that was put out in December, you know, hundreds of thousands, over 700,000 people in our country homeless on a single night in January of 2024. The three top-line missions of HUD. And so we want to come in and take inventory, take an assessment of all of these programs, see, are we serving the people that we've been called to serve?

00:29:11.000 And if we are not, how can we do better?

00:29:13.000 How can we better position ourselves to decrease and eradicate homelessness, including veteran homelessness, including family homelessness?

00:29:22.000 How can we bring down the cost of home affordability and bring up the supply and restore local control?

00:29:30.000 And working with localities to build affordable and workforce housing.

00:29:34.000 How do we help those who have been hit by natural disasters around our country to rebuild their families, to restore their businesses?

00:29:43.000 And so we're laser-focused on that.

00:29:45.000 And so for the people who are listening to this time we have together, Charlie, I hope that they will understand that here at HUD, our heart is for the American people.

00:29:53.000 people.

00:29:54.000 Our mission is to help the American people, not to stay on government subsidies, but to get off of government subsidies and fulfill the American dream of fulfill their God given potential and get on a way to self sustainability and not just survive in America, but to thrive in America.

00:30:11.000 And so myself and our entire team here at HUD, that is our heart.

00:30:15.000 That's the heartbeat.

00:30:16.000 And that's what we're going to do in the days ahead.

00:30:18.000 And I'm looking And I thank the president for his leadership and giving me this opportunity and our team this opportunity to lead HUD. Mr. Secretary, we are behind you 100%.

00:30:30.000 Thank you for your energy and your commitment to the American people and good luck.

00:30:34.000 We have your back.

00:30:35.000 Thank you.

00:30:36.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:30:37.000 God bless you, brother.

00:30:37.000 Excellent.

00:30:38.000 That's so refreshing.

00:30:39.000 I love the spark and the love of country and the patriotism.

00:30:43.000 It's just awesome.

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00:31:54.000 But I want to instead get into a phenomenal appearance by a good friend of mine, the Vice President of the United States.

00:32:02.000 Boy, that feels good to say.

00:32:03.000 The Vice President of the United States.

00:32:06.000 Surreal.

00:32:07.000 Got to tell you, I was sitting right here in this chair when it was Citizen Vance.

00:32:12.000 And he would just come on the show, and he used to give us as much time as we asked for.

00:32:16.000 Hey, J.D., can you come on the show and give us an hour and a half?

00:32:19.000 Sure.

00:32:20.000 Can you talk about these nine topics?

00:32:22.000 Sure.

00:32:23.000 And he'd talk about everything.

00:32:24.000 Well, now J.D. has a lot more important things to do than come on the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:32:29.000 But we remain 100% behind him, and of course, most importantly, behind the president's agenda and behind the country.

00:32:35.000 J.D. Vance is a rock star.

00:32:38.000 We, on this program, I'll say we because it was a team effort, we are vindicated.

00:32:43.000 We got so much backlash.

00:32:46.000 Oh, I won't let this one go.

00:32:48.000 Oh, the amount of nasty grams I got from some people in the audience and from donors, we lost money over it.

00:32:53.000 For both promoting J.D. Vance in the Senate primary and then, of course, in the vice presidential contest.

00:32:59.000 The president deserves such unbelievable credit for making that choice.

00:33:02.000 It was incredible.

00:33:03.000 J.D. Vance right now is in Paris for a major...

00:33:07.000 AI summit.

00:33:08.000 Major artificial intelligence summit.

00:33:11.000 He just has this gravitas to him.

00:33:14.000 J.D. Vance has become a hero and an icon.

00:33:15.000 What we have always hoped that he would become.

00:33:19.000 This is in front of the entire planet.

00:33:21.000 He had dinner with Macron last night.

00:33:23.000 J.D. Vance is dealing at the highest possible level.

00:33:25.000 In my opinion, represented the country so incredibly well.

00:33:29.000 Much better than Kamala Harris.

00:33:31.000 Oh, what a change!

00:33:32.000 This is J.D. Vance articulating the moral case of how we approach artificial intelligence.

00:33:37.000 We will embrace this technology with caution and understand that human beings come first.

00:33:42.000 It's a positive, bold agenda, courageous, and crisply delivered.

00:33:48.000 Playcut87.

00:33:49.000 This administration wants to be very clear about one last point.

00:33:52.000 We will always center American workers in our AI policy. 0.82

00:33:57.000 We refuse to view AI as a purely disruptive technology that will inevitably automate away our labor force.

00:34:05.000 We believe, and we will fight for policies that ensure that AI is going to make our workers more productive, and we expect that they will reap the rewards with higher wages, better benefits, and safer and more prosperous communities.

00:34:20.000 It's not about replacing, it's about amplifying.

00:34:23.000 it's not about substituting it's about flourishing that's a different moral contract than some of the little gremlins that are running around silicon valley talking about a hyper robotic world no no we have a obligation to the worker it's a contrast of the doom and gloom america is the most innovative country in history but our innovation has always been to help ordinary people play cut 71 now we've also watched

00:34:51.000 As hostile foreign adversaries have weaponized AI software to rewrite history, surveil users, and censor speech.

00:34:59.000 This is hardly new, of course.

00:35:01.000 As they do with other tech, some authoritarian regimes have stolen and used AI to strengthen their military intelligence and surveillance capabilities, capture foreign data, and create propaganda to undermine other nations' national security.

00:35:18.000 I want to be clear.

00:35:20.000 This administration will block such efforts full stop.

00:35:24.000 And finally, cut 90. I couldn't help but think of the conference today.

00:35:30.000 If we choose the wrong approach on other things that could be conceived of as dangerous, things like AI, and choose to hold ourselves back, it will alter not only our GDP or the stock market, but the very future of the project that Lafayette and the American founders set off to create.

00:35:50.000 Now, this doesn't mean, of course, that all concerns about safety go out the window.

00:35:54.000 But focus matters.

00:35:56.000 And we must focus now on the opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle, unleash our most brilliant innovators, and use AI to improve the well-being of our nations and their peoples.

00:36:09.000 Masterclass.

00:36:11.000 We have been waiting for that kind of, that very clear signal.

00:36:16.000 A human first.

The Charlie Kirk Show - February 12, 2025

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