00:00:44.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:52.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:40.000Charlie, thank you so much for having me and the great introduction.
00:01:44.000I will tell you, I'm going to start with a couple of compliments for you.
00:01:49.000People know Charlie is a magnanimous guy and helps the movement a lot.
00:01:54.000But I got to tell you, Charlie was really one of the people who pushed me to expand my research team after my New York Times best-selling book, Breaking the News, and try to see what else I could get.
00:02:04.000And Charlie, you might not even remember this, but you suggested I do a series, a breaking series.
00:02:09.000Kind of like Bill O'Reilly's killing series.
00:02:12.000And you were the first person to come up with that.
00:02:14.000And I got to tell you, I pitched Simon Schuster a number of different headlines, a number of different, I guess I think headlines, a number of different book titles.
00:02:22.000And everyone agreed Breaking Biden was the title.
00:02:39.000So, Alex, you know, you've published this book.
00:02:42.000Again, it's called Breaking Biden, which I, but first of all, I just love Breaking Bad.
00:02:46.000And so that's just anything with Breaking is I think it's actually one of the great, one of the great cinematic accomplishments in the history of the moving art of film.
00:03:23.000Harry Jaffa said, I am jealous for those of you that have never had a chance to read, you know, Aristotle's Ethics or whatever it is, right?
00:03:39.000And you hit on the first thing, which is the depth of research, is that anyone could write, just based on the stuff we published on the Bidens alone at Breitbart, you could just regurgitate a greatest hit, and it would probably be a decent read.
00:03:56.000I mean, I was looking at, I think we've covered Hunter, I think, 2,000 times at Breitbart.
00:04:00.000So it would be, there's more than enough material already out there for people.
00:04:04.000But I was trying to get a deeper sense in terms of who these people are, particularly who Joe Biden is and how he could accumulate so much power and to dominate the American political landscape for 50 years, given the fact that he has really limited gifts.
00:05:00.000You know, Steve Manon made an interesting point to me a long time ago when we were all making fun of Barack Obama for being a community organizer.
00:05:10.000He would say, well, you know what a community organizer is?
00:05:12.000He's someone who could kick your butt.
00:05:38.000And then you start digging into it and you realize that he's got a real philosophy and is not about ideology at all.
00:05:43.000He started as a working class blue-collar guy and immediately became an establishmentarian leftist over a period of time.
00:05:50.000I start looking at the tactics in terms of what he does and how he very cleverly gets so much of the left-wing agenda through while enriching his family and evading scrutiny at every turn, decade after decade, not just year after year, Charlie, but going back decades, they've been doing this.
00:06:07.000And that's why it takes so long to go through all of the end notes and the footnoting and trying to back it up with fact after fact.
00:06:40.000I know that it's like, I'm just curious about his personality because, you know, with Donald Trump, we know every single possible dimension of him, right?
00:06:46.000How he, but just tell me about Joe Biden, the person.
00:06:50.000And, you know, Alex, you're super, you're always factual.
00:06:54.000But is he someone that you like, I mean, I mean this like non-sarcastically, is he someone you would want on your church elder board, right?
00:07:01.000Is he someone that you would like trust to watch the kids?
00:07:21.000The clearest one that people know that you don't need to read the book to know, but is still worth being reminded of is how the treatment of Navy Joan, where he's got a granddaughter who he chooses not to acknowledge, his own flesh and blood, legitimately his.
00:07:35.000And the White House, including Jill, who doesn't seem like a particularly nice person either, by the way, go to the effort of decorating the White House for Christmas and hanging stockings for every grandchild other than Navy Joan until finally enough public pressure comes out and they start acknowledging Navy Joan's existence.
00:07:52.000But Charlie, there's one example in the book, and I'll share it with you for the first time, which will make you spit.
00:07:58.000You might recall that Joe Biden lost his first wife and daughter in a car crash in between when he got elected to the Senate and then when he got sworn in.
00:08:07.000A devastating story, one of the few moments in the book that humanizes Joe.
00:08:11.000But years later, years later, Frank Biden, Joe's brother, was involved in a hit and run car crash.
00:08:21.000But according to the witnesses who were in the car, Frank was actually operating the gear shifter while a friend of his drove his car well above the speed limit.
00:08:29.000They hit a guy and the witnesses said that Frank commanded the driver to keep on going while Frank operated the stick shift.
00:08:37.000Now, what ended up happening is the guy died and he was survived by a family.
00:09:37.000It's just, we hear that he's like good old Scranton Joe.
00:09:40.000And I mean, I want to go deeper and deeper into his biography.
00:09:43.000And I mean, you've done the research here that I think is really important, exposing the hidden forces and secret money machine, Lorene Powell Jobs.
00:09:54.000Who I think, Alex, you were the first one to introduce her name into the zeitgeist.
00:09:58.000Like, here's this $20 billion woman who has the Emerson Collective.
00:10:04.000I don't want to say she's a household name, but she's close.
00:10:07.000I mean, she's now, you know, she's now in the ballgame of people that the grassroots are like, yeah, like, why is Steve Jobs' wife pumping in a billion dollars a year to destroy the country?
00:10:18.000Well, we know that thanks to Alex Marlowe with your last book.
00:11:43.000And you'd be stunned to know she makes a couple appearances in Breaking Biden.
00:11:48.000First of all, huge friend of Kamala Harris.
00:11:50.000And one of the main reasons I believe Pamela Harris was papped as vice president, given the fact that she was from a blue state, which was automatic for Democrats, and was someone who was not adding anything dynamic to the ticket other than her woke points, but really more importantly, her ability to get donors.
00:12:07.000She was the donor darling in Silicon Valley, and she was a wink and nod.
00:12:11.000Her getting added to the ticket was a promise to Silicon Valley.
00:13:01.000And she, the company ended up going belly up because someone at the company impersonated a YouTube executive on a call with the editor or CEO, whoever the guy was who was in charge of it to fake energy behind the company.
00:13:17.000The guy was running it for Lorene Powell Jobs, but it's her company and she got PPP loans.
00:13:23.000So I don't know if that's purely on Biden, but I couldn't resist adding that when I was running through all the government waste that's going on currently because it was just too delish.
00:13:32.000But I point out a whole new cast of people.
00:13:35.000And some people were really quite shocking to me who are involved.
00:13:39.000One person is Dustin Moscovitz, who might be familiar to you, Charlie Youngbuy, who was, yeah, from Facebook, but all his money from Facebook.
00:13:48.000He's donating sometimes 10x what other of the top donors are doing, but he's deeply committed to it.
00:15:31.000Yeah, if you ever go, if you ever drive by like the Long Beach shipping yards, like every other container says Costco, and it's not, again, the Seattle-based communist shopping place.
00:15:40.000Well, they're, they're not, I go to Costco, but they are owned by commies, but it's Costco.
00:15:44.000Yeah, so it's the Chinese ship, like international shipping enterprise.
00:15:49.000I want to examine this from all different angles because Joe Biden is for sale and purchased.
00:15:55.000But I want to talk, Alex, about something that has always interested me.
00:15:58.000And I'm not sure if you cover this in the book, but I'm sure, which is the creation and the selection of Joe Biden and the context, because I remember this vividly.
00:16:07.000I was on book tour for the MAGA Doctrine.
00:17:49.000They reset the Democrat primary as COVID was emerging.
00:17:52.000People started dropping out out of nowhere.
00:17:54.000And then Joe Biden got to be selected as the nominee.
00:17:58.000Tell us what you can about this period of time because this was pivotal.
00:18:01.000He went from a laughingstock to the next president almost overnight.
00:18:06.000So the first thing that you're asking the right question that you're even curious about, because this is sort of the whole premise of what I was trying to delve into in the book.
00:18:15.000How could a guy without any real gifts, doesn't seem to be particularly popular, isn't inspiring ideologically, how could he get there?
00:18:23.000And the answer that I came up with through hours and hours and hours and hours of research is that he was part of building the apparatus that selected him.
00:18:31.000And he wasn't just propped up, that he was a part of, he was the guy who was forging a lot of the gears that make the machinery of the Democrat Party.
00:18:43.000And when he was emerging, by the way, remember that he was, he was ready to pass the torch on to his son Bo, who he said, I think it was the day of his inauguration before he actually got sworn in, that it should be Bo standing up there and not him.
00:18:58.000That was the whole plan: to pass the dynasty on to Bo, but Bo passed away of cancer.
00:19:03.000So, but when it turned out that there was no natural successor to Barack Obama, when there was no natural emerging force, Joe was the guy who had the most knowledge of the system, the most ability to operate the system.
00:19:17.000And this is something that people could unite behind.
00:19:20.000And so, believe it or not, even though we all are suckers for moving speeches and tremendous rhetoric, what the Democrats have long understood is that the people who are operationally competent, the people who are able to get more done, are the ones who they actually end up elevating.
00:19:41.000Think about Mark Elias, Charlie, who maybe is the second most powerful person on the left right now.
00:19:46.000If you're not going to include a guy like Soros, completely uninspiring.
00:19:50.000You've no interest in hearing the guy talk.
00:20:41.000There's everyone who reads this book will learn something.
00:20:44.000In fact, Charlie, my challenge is: if you don't learn something on the first page, I would be stunned.
00:20:48.000And that's the whole premise I'm setting up.
00:20:51.000I open with an anecdote on the first page that everyone is telling me that when they're reading it, they're chuckling at the first page because I share something that's theoretically out there.
00:21:01.000You could find it, but no one knows these things because no one bothers to look.
00:21:04.000We're all very self-satisfied with this.
00:21:26.000I had a big story at Breitbart that ran that people can check out, which is based off of a section of the book where I look at, for example, the Biden Institute at the University of Delaware.
00:21:39.000This was something that was set up at the same time the famous Penn Biden Center was set up and another satellite office in Washington.
00:21:47.000The goal was to create a system to generate wealth.
00:21:52.000Wealth generation was the goal for the Bidens.
00:21:54.000Now, how are they going to generate that wealth?
00:21:56.000They're going to generate that wealth through deep ties to China.
00:21:59.000That's clearly a big part of what they're trying to do because as soon as these institutes got launched, then donations started flowing into these universities from China.
00:22:09.000Delaware had never gotten a donation from China before.
00:22:25.000This was called Hunter's Baby, this project run by Valerie to do wealth creation for Joe, deeply tied to China.
00:22:34.000And at the time, not yet installed, but incoming to the University of Delaware to run the whole university was a deeply China-tied guy who is now working for Biden in the White House.
00:23:08.000But what was the thing or the theme where you were just like, you know, when you and your research team were like, when all of a sudden, Alex Marlow, who gets up at like 3 a.m. like a crazy person, you know, to host your radio show, where you were just like, come on, like where it was almost like you were thinking about it and you could not believe what you stumbled upon.
00:23:26.000Give us a little tease of the stuff that you discovered that even shocked you, someone who has been so initiated in this space.
00:23:34.000Yeah, so I think, first of all, when it dawned on me, a couple of things dawned on me.
00:23:40.000When I saw that Frank Biden was operating a vehicle that didn't run someone and then Joe tried to cover it up, that was pretty stunning.
00:23:48.000When I learned the extent to which Joe was willing to work with Chinese connected entities to enrich things so that he wouldn't have to do other fundraising, presumably, I mean, that's what all the constellation of facts point that out.
00:24:26.000And that made when I realized that, I realized he wasn't deteriorating mentally the same way everyone else on the right just assumes he is.
00:24:36.000I still think he's deteriorating to some extent, Charlie, but I've realized he's always been this way.
00:24:41.000And when I've realized he's always been this way, it made me think, oh my goodness, he could actually win again.
00:24:46.000If we're not careful and we don't start taking this guy seriously, we have fallen for a trap because he's constantly been bumbling and stumbling and getting lost and he keeps winning.
00:25:06.000And so then if for house investigators, if we ever get a house representatives back, I have to ask you about that, Alex, in a second, because it's just too it's just right there because it actually ties into your thing.
00:25:15.000Like if we ever get a house back and decide to have a speaker, what then?
00:25:36.000Because if you look at what, if you look at the Burisma scenario, which people know pretty well, though I probably know it to a little more detail at this point, I haven't researched the book.
00:25:46.000This should tell people everything they need to know about what Joe's willing to do.
00:25:50.000You get hire Hunter for a million dollars in Ukraine for an energy company.
00:25:55.000He knows nothing about Ukraine or energy.
00:25:56.000They make one demand, fire the prosecutor.
00:25:59.000They come back and say, hey, we need this prosecutor fired.
00:26:28.000So that gives you the opportunity to go back and look at all these deals.
00:26:32.000Look at the dragonhead deal and look at the equity there.
00:26:34.000Look at the ties that not just Hunter, but Jim Biden, who is a former nightclub executive, have to, quote, the effing spy chief of China, who got arrested by the FBI.
00:26:45.000You know where his first call was, Charlie?
00:26:46.000Do you know who the effing spy chief of China called first person?
00:27:06.000It's the, we've been talking a lot about EVs with some of the UAW strikes going on, stuff like that.
00:27:12.000It's the Joe had a niece in the Department of Energy that was giving out while the Department of Energy was giving out loans to EV companies that were going bankrupt.
00:27:22.000Hunter was a creditor on one of those companies.
00:27:24.000Hunter got a $125,000 electric vehicle during this process.
00:27:31.000There are Bidens everywhere and they're all bagging cash.
00:27:34.000James Biden was a nightclub operator and then Joe became vice president.
00:27:38.000All of a sudden, Charlie, he's running a private school initiative where he's flying around on private jets trying to raise money for, I'm sorry, for not private school, charter schools.
00:27:48.000He's trying to raise money for charter schools on private jets.
00:27:51.000Needless to say, the literacy rate of the people in the schools was almost zero.
00:27:54.000Didn't stop Jim from bagging cash and flying around on jets.
00:27:58.000It's top to bottom, the whole family, they're all implicated.
00:28:01.000And now it's time to start exposing all of them.
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00:29:31.000I have to ask Alex about this, you know, deal.
00:29:34.000And as of this conversation, depending on when people are listening to it, because things live in perpetuity, there is no speaker of the house, okay?
00:29:41.000Which means that the Joe Biden investigations are all in suspense, right?
00:29:48.000So, Alex, how should we think about this?
00:29:50.000And how does it connect to Joe Biden, the criminal who is president of the United States?
00:29:55.000Yeah, this is terrible for the stuff I'm trying to accomplish, trying to get people to focus on Joe Biden and the Biden family, Biden corruption.
00:30:01.000It's just a, look, Charlie, we know that I see what Matt Gates is trying to get out of life.
00:30:07.000And I always like Matt when I run into him.
00:30:10.000But, you know, there's a personal thing going on with him and McCarthy because McCarthy's allowed for the ethics investigation into him to continue.
00:30:25.000We're finally getting a sense of, you know, Joe using the Rosemont phone.
00:30:30.000We're starting to get some details in the bereavement deal, some amounts, some dollar numbers that people like me and Peter Schweitzer have been looking for for years.
00:30:37.000They're finally coming out of the investigations.
00:30:40.000And then now we're just going to fight amongst ourselves right now of all times.
00:30:43.000I'm not into it from a content perspective, as Edward Breitbart, you know, exciting, but it's the, it is not my thing.
00:30:51.000And 100%, this is going to make it so that a unified Republican conference is not there to take on Biden.
00:30:58.000And I just, I misguided, misguided, misguided.
00:31:02.000We're going to probably lose the House next year.
00:31:04.000And, you know, when they vote to eliminate the Electoral College or do whatever goofy thing they want to do, we'll remember that.
00:31:10.000Peter Schweiser says, Alex Marlowe is one of the few journalists who does the deep research to break real news.
00:31:15.000He reports fearlessly wherever the facts may lead, holding the most powerful people in the world to account.
00:31:20.000Breaking Biden is a central reading if you want to know the hard truths about the presidency and the American power structure itself.
00:31:32.000You know, elements you want to tease our audience, please.
00:31:36.000Yeah, I would love to tease the Ukraine chapter you brought up.
00:31:39.000First of all, one of the most unbelievable little anecdotes that I found in the book is that James Biden, the nightclub owner, he fell deep into IRS debt and he got bailed out with a half a million dollar loan from a Biden donor who is a Ukrainian American.
00:31:54.000And three years later, that Ukrainian Americans car company got a $20 million federal loan to build a new dealership.
00:32:01.000You know where the dealership was, Charlie?