The Charlie Kirk Show - April 09, 2025


BREAKING NEWS: Trump’s Global Anti-China Play


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

156.1876

Word Count

4,329

Sentence Count

410

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Trump announces a 90 day pause on all tariffs, except China. The Dow Jones and S&P 500 hit new records in a matter of minutes. China strikes back and the markets go into a frenzy. China stands alone and the entire world is against them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, breaking news.
00:00:01.000 President Donald Trump with a 90-day pause on all tariffs, except China.
00:00:05.000 We are narrowing the focus on China.
00:00:08.000 we explain exactly what that means throughout this entire episode text this episode to your friends for breaking news and analysis live here on the charlie kirk show become a member today members.charliekirk.com and again text this episode to your friends and give
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00:01:24.000 Charlie Kirk here, back in the chair.
00:01:26.000 Thank you, Producer Andrew, for filling in.
00:01:28.000 It has been an eventful couple days.
00:01:29.000 We've had three campus events in the last two days.
00:01:32.000 So great to be back in the chair here.
00:01:34.000 We have some super breaking news here.
00:01:35.000 90-day pause on tariffs for every nation except China.
00:01:39.000 It's exactly where we want to be.
00:01:41.000 We want to be narrowing our focus on the Chinese Communist Party.
00:01:44.000 Now China stands alone.
00:01:46.000 Exactly right.
00:01:47.000 We want to unite the entire world against the Chinese Communist Party.
00:01:50.000 And we hold a lot of other little tricks up our sleeve.
00:01:54.000 90-day pause.
00:01:56.000 The market is going parabolic right now.
00:01:58.000 It is up 2,300.
00:01:59.000 The Dow is up 2,300 points, nearly 6% in a matter of minutes.
00:02:05.000 It's just straight up.
00:02:07.000 What President Trump is doing is bringing the entire world...
00:02:11.000 We need to bring Canada, we need to bring...
00:02:20.000 The CCP is the problem.
00:02:24.000 The CCP is the enemy.
00:02:26.000 Unite the entire free world as a coalition.
00:02:30.000 We could deal with these trade partners.
00:02:31.000 By the way, as Treasury Secretary Besant clearly said, he's sitting down with Vietnam this afternoon.
00:02:36.000 I expect a really good deal of Vietnam saying they're going to buy more LNG or they're going to buy more of our cattle or exported beef, I should say.
00:02:43.000 President Trump has been calm and cool and China retaliated.
00:02:48.000 They made a bad move.
00:02:50.000 He goaded and baited the CCP.
00:02:52.000 This was the plan all along.
00:02:54.000 Trump goaded China into showing their cards.
00:02:56.000 Might I say it's rather brilliant.
00:02:58.000 And I know some people are still down on the market, but the market's now up 2,200 points.
00:03:03.000 I bet it's going to recover all of it.
00:03:04.000 Plus you've got tax cuts, got drill, baby drill, no tax and overtime, no tax on tips.
00:03:07.000 We bought.
00:03:11.000 They got nowhere to go.
00:03:12.000 You got Japan and South Korea flying into America to go make deals.
00:03:15.000 So what now President Trump has done, he says, okay, here are the tariffs.
00:03:19.000 I mean business.
00:03:20.000 We'll do a 90-day pause to negotiate except on China.
00:03:23.000 China's surrounded.
00:03:24.000 Where's China going to turn?
00:03:25.000 The South Koreans and the Japanese and the Vietnamese are not going to pick up the calls from China.
00:03:31.000 Where's China going to turn?
00:03:32.000 They're going to return to Namibia?
00:03:34.000 Or the Central African Republic?
00:03:36.000 One of their small little...
00:03:38.000 Colonies in Africa?
00:03:40.000 Understand this.
00:03:41.000 This is great leverage now going into the Iranian negotiations as well.
00:03:46.000 The timing when it comes to Iran is perfect.
00:03:49.000 And now Russia is still trying to cozy up to the United States regarding Ukraine and President Trump, brilliant dealmaker, brilliant, not putting any extra sanctions or tariffs on Russia, saying, that's a carve-out, we've got to work on this diplomatically.
00:04:04.000 So Russia is very careful right now.
00:04:06.000 Russia says, oh boy, we don't want to rush into China.
00:04:08.000 So Russia's saying, I don't know.
00:04:11.000 He's uniting the world against the true enemy.
00:04:14.000 Exactly what our foreign policy position should have been all about.
00:04:18.000 We subsidized the rise of the Red Menace.
00:04:21.000 You see, everyone thinks that Trump was a madman and all this.
00:04:23.000 Turns out that this was chess moves and not checkers.
00:04:27.000 The entire world has been scrambling.
00:04:29.000 All it took was one week of courage.
00:04:32.000 And now the markets are up so high, people are scrambling to buy stuff 5%, 6%.
00:04:36.000 Look, markets go up and markets go down.
00:04:37.000 Very rarely, and Blake would agree, do you see a parabolic increase on the NASDAQ of 9% in a moment of five minutes.
00:04:45.000 Understand, this is a game of brinksmanship.
00:04:48.000 Now, what cars do the Chinese Communist Party have?
00:04:50.000 Every day that that 104% tariff remains on China, every single day that it remains, their market is going to collapse.
00:04:59.000 They need us way more than we need them.
00:05:01.000 And look, China still has treasury bills.
00:05:03.000 Besant had the perfect answer, by the way, on bonds.
00:05:05.000 We had a great year.
00:05:07.000 We had a great 10-year auction.
00:05:09.000 Phenomenal. If we can sustain the dumping of American treasury bills by the Chinese Communist Party, they want to try to push up our 10-year note.
00:05:19.000 That's what they're trying to do.
00:05:20.000 They're going to try to keep on dumping bonds as leverage.
00:05:22.000 If we can sustain that, I'm telling you right now, it's theoretical.
00:05:27.000 I don't want to say it's likely.
00:05:30.000 No, no,
00:05:53.000 no. We need to bring in the partners closer to us.
00:05:55.000 We need to bring in our strategic allies.
00:05:59.000 This is big league stuff right now.
00:06:01.000 The Chinese are freaking out.
00:06:03.000 Anyone that is leveraged, that has ties to the Chinese Communist Party, they are wondering, are these capital markets going to be joined out?
00:06:10.000 Are they going to get choked out?
00:06:12.000 Besson has said, quote, we've had more than 75 countries contact us.
00:06:16.000 I'd imagine after today there will be more.
00:06:17.000 It's going to take some time and President Trump wants to be personally involved.
00:06:20.000 Deal by deal by deal by deal.
00:06:22.000 Saying that each one will have a bespoke Unique negotiation.
00:06:26.000 No one-size-fit-all.
00:06:27.000 It's a line around the block.
00:06:28.000 It's like landing planes at LaGuardia on a Friday night.
00:06:31.000 You look up in the sky and you got like 15 planes and you're lining them up.
00:06:35.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:06:37.000 One after the other.
00:06:39.000 Lunch, you got Vietnam.
00:06:40.000 2 p.m., you got Laos.
00:06:42.000 4 p.m., you got Cambodia.
00:06:43.000 6 p.m., you got Madagascar.
00:06:45.000 For dinner, you got the Japanese.
00:06:47.000 For breakfast, you got the South Koreans.
00:06:49.000 You line them all up and you just start breaking out these deals.
00:06:51.000 You got to buy more of our LNG.
00:06:53.000 You got to buy more of our manufacturing.
00:06:55.000 You got to buy more of our exported beef.
00:06:57.000 You got to buy more of our corn.
00:06:59.000 You got to buy more of our ag.
00:07:01.000 Just line it up.
00:07:02.000 You have your demands.
00:07:03.000 And these deals will take time to iron out.
00:07:05.000 But the 90-day pause shows that we mean business.
00:07:08.000 And I'll tell you, the Chinese Communist Party, where are they turning to right now?
00:07:11.000 Russia is not returning their calls.
00:07:12.000 And Iran says, oh my goodness, I don't know.
00:07:14.000 Because they got to sit down with President Trump this weekend.
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00:08:18.000 When President Donald Trump was merely a real estate developer, he was facing massive debt in the 1990s.
00:08:25.000 He found himself owing billions of dollars to banks.
00:08:28.000 In fact, some of his premier projects, the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, the Trump Plaza Hotel in New York City, and the Trump Castle in Atlantic City, they're almost all going under.
00:08:38.000 In fact, they were not doing well.
00:08:40.000 President Trump has gone through some valleys and he's gone through some peaks.
00:08:44.000 He's gone through some troughs and he has gone through some pinnacles.
00:08:48.000 This was certainly a valley in the story of...
00:08:51.000 Donald Trump.
00:08:54.000 ...owed so much money to these banks that seemingly it looked as if Donald Trump had no leverage.
00:09:01.000 It looked as if Donald Trump did not have any cards.
00:09:04.000 Donald Trump owed all of these banks money.
00:09:08.000 It looked as if that the banks held all the cards.
00:09:11.000 But President Donald Trump flipped the script.
00:09:14.000 In a historic and legendary moment, President Donald Trump, at the time real estate developer Donald Trump, brought in all the banks to his boardroom.
00:09:24.000 And he made a counterintuitive, rather bold argument where he said, yes, I owe you a bunch of money.
00:09:32.000 Billions, in fact.
00:09:33.000 Taj Mahal filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
00:09:36.000 The Trump Plaza had a $407 million loan.
00:09:40.000 That's back when that was a lot of money.
00:09:42.000 The Trump Atlantic, Trump Castle in Atlantic City faced declining revenues and had a prepackaged bankruptcy.
00:09:49.000 All three properties were becoming an albatross on the Trump Organization.
00:09:53.000 But President Trump, at the time, real estate developer Trump, brought everyone in the room and said, I don't think you banks understand.
00:10:00.000 You need me a lot more than I need you.
00:10:03.000 The banks were perplexed by this argument.
00:10:05.000 In this legendary meeting in Trump Tower, when Donald Trump brought everybody into the room, he said, listen, if I go down, you go down with me.
00:10:15.000 He flipped the leverage.
00:10:17.000 Donald Trump made these banks realize, holy Moses.
00:10:22.000 Donald Trump would be fine in one sense.
00:10:25.000 He would just file Chapter 11. He would live to see another day.
00:10:27.000 It would be embarrassing.
00:10:28.000 But these banks have given out so much money to Donald Trump.
00:10:32.000 They were so hyper-leveraged to Donald Trump that they needed to make a deal.
00:10:39.000 That they needed to come to the table.
00:10:41.000 This same logic that Donald Trump successfully used when he was a real estate developer in the 1990s and got him out of a major, major hole.
00:10:50.000 This same logic is exactly what Donald Trump is doing on trade.
00:10:54.000 In particular, his use of tariffs to address the chronic U.S. trade deficit.
00:11:00.000 If America is the buyer in the global economy, then the world needs our market more than we need their product.
00:11:06.000 Let me say that again.
00:11:07.000 If America is the buyer in the global economy, then the world needs our market more.
00:11:13.000 We need their products.
00:11:14.000 In Trump's view, we actually hold all the leverage, not in spite of our trade deficit, but because of it.
00:11:24.000 Similar to his negotiation with all the banks in the early 1990s, tariffs are now a tool to flip the imbalance, forcing trading partners to come to the table, not because they want to, but because they can't afford not to.
00:11:41.000 Just as he told the banks, you need me, or else you are going to collapse.
00:11:48.000 President Donald Trump is now saying to all of our trading partners, you need access to our market, so let's negotiate.
00:11:55.000 Tariffs in this particular framework are not isolationist tantrums, but instead, you could argue, they are strategic instruments designed not to destroy trade.
00:12:09.000 But to rebalance it on terms that reflect America's centrality to the global economy.
00:12:15.000 When you are in a trade deficit, it's not good.
00:12:20.000 You have to import a bunch of stuff.
00:12:22.000 But the secret hidden power switch behind all of it, the skeletal key is that you actually hold all the cards.
00:12:34.000 China is applying all of these tariffs on U.S. goods.
00:12:38.000 Newsflash, we don't import that many goods into China, but we import an enormous amount of goods into America.
00:12:45.000 So when we apply the tariffs on Chinese goods, it is a 100 to 1 imbalance of the cost associated.
00:12:54.000 This is Scott Besant, Treasury Secretary, who is employing President Trump's art of the deal.
00:13:00.000 Understanding and flipping the idea of leverage.
00:13:03.000 Seemingly, you would think, okay, all these other cards they hold, all the other countries hold the cards because they're in a trade surplus.
00:13:10.000 No, we actually hold the cards.
00:13:12.000 Play cut 168.
00:13:14.000 Maria, I think it's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't want to come and negotiate because they are the worst offenders in the international trading system.
00:13:24.000 They have the most imbalanced economy in the history of the modern world, and I can tell you that this escalation is a loser for them.
00:13:33.000 that they have some very smart, the economists, the academicians, technocrats within their bureaucracy and they would be telling the leadership that we do not have the edge here.
00:13:46.000 They are the surplus country.
00:13:50.000 Their exports to the U.S. are five times our exports to China, so they can raise their
00:13:58.000 So what?
00:14:03.000 Now, China does hold some cards.
00:14:05.000 Our trade deficit is remarkable.
00:14:10.000 critical goods to be able to staff, to be able to have machinery for our military.
00:14:17.000 Our Tomahawk missiles, our fighter jets, our tanks, they need parts and materials that are made in China.
00:14:22.000 It's not that China makes our tanks, but they have the thousands of little individual parts that are necessary.
00:14:28.000 There are minerals in China, and China is a producer
00:14:32.000 90%?
00:14:36.000 It's not because they're the only ones who have them.
00:14:38.000 It's because they're the only ones mining them.
00:14:40.000 This problem is fixable.
00:14:41.000 We need to mine our own rare earths and put the environmentalists in a corner and be able to extract our own rare earths.
00:14:49.000 We have rare earths all over the United States.
00:14:52.000 We have them in Texas.
00:14:53.000 We have them in Alaska.
00:14:55.000 This is the one opportunity we have to use our leverage.
00:14:59.000 If we allowed this to continue, if we did not strike at this moment, if we did not go into the window as we are seeing, Then China would hold all the cards.
00:15:10.000 And to go back to the 1990s, when Donald Trump used this mentality, Donald Trump would say, if I go down, we all go down.
00:15:17.000 China could say in five years or ten years, if we do not interrupt this balance, imbalance, China could say, actually, that's not true.
00:15:24.000 We're self-sufficient.
00:15:25.000 Understand, China is in desperate need of energy, big time.
00:15:29.000 They are in desperate need of continually exporting products.
00:15:34.000 The Chinese international order.
00:15:37.000 ...is inherently mercantilist.
00:15:40.000 It is inherently colonial.
00:15:43.000 We are going to slowly take over third world nations, make a bunch of stuff, and flood the world with our products, and we make stuff.
00:15:49.000 We are a lot different.
00:15:51.000 We've embraced the brain economy.
00:15:54.000 We are consumerist.
00:15:55.000 We will trade you pieces of paper for stuff.
00:15:59.000 And the future will belong to the nation that both is able...
00:16:06.000 To think through problems and have an information economy, but also have an infrastructure economy.
00:16:14.000 And if we don't fix this, it would be a realignment that would forever put America in a power deficit.
00:16:22.000 And right now, President Trump and America holds the cards because if we go down, they go down even worse.
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00:17:45.000 If I were to guess, based on Secretary Besson's comments, and also President Trump's comments, we're going to see a deal struck with Japan and South Korea.
00:17:53.000 As we should.
00:17:54.000 The Japanese and the South Koreans are great allies of us.
00:17:57.000 We do not want to antagonize the Japanese and the South Koreans.
00:18:01.000 Use tariffs as a negotiation?
00:18:03.000 Fine. Get more LNG there.
00:18:05.000 Allow us to sell our pork.
00:18:06.000 Allow us to sell our ag.
00:18:08.000 Terrific. Great.
00:18:10.000 We need to keep on marching and narrowing in.
00:18:15.000 The emphasis on the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:19.000 There are minerals in China that you literally cannot find anywhere else in the world.
00:18:23.000 Well, that's not true.
00:18:24.000 They actually extract them.
00:18:26.000 America can make our parts and mine our minerals.
00:18:31.000 Our leaders have chosen not to do so.
00:18:36.000 And that is a theme we've talked about a lot here on this program.
00:18:39.000 Why did we not have a border under Joe Biden?
00:18:42.000 It was a choice.
00:18:43.000 Why did we have hyperinflation?
00:18:45.000 It was a choice.
00:18:46.000 Why did we have crime on the streets?
00:18:49.000 It's a choice.
00:18:50.000 Why do we have massive homelessness?
00:18:52.000 It's a choice.
00:18:53.000 Why are kids failing to be able to read at fifth, sixth, and seventh grade?
00:18:57.000 It's a choice.
00:18:59.000 So many of our problems in our country are a consequence of our leaders choosing failure.
00:19:08.000 Why? Because of ideology or political correctness or they just don't care.
00:19:12.000 But the solutions are so self-evident.
00:19:18.000 And the promises that the corporate class and the entrenched political elite told us for the last 40 years, they said that if we trade with China, China would become a democracy.
00:19:31.000 I would have to say this would be indictment number one.
00:19:35.000 If I were a prosecutor, Trying to metaphorically indict the free trade absolutists and the zealots.
00:19:44.000 Charge number one would be that neoliberalism would democratize the totalitarian countries.
00:19:51.000 I would hear this all the time.
00:19:54.000 Well, China, they're going to become ambassadors of freedom of speech.
00:19:59.000 The more we trade with China, the more they're going to liberalize.
00:20:03.000 It's actually the opposite.
00:20:04.000 China has become more Orwellian.
00:20:08.000 They've become more draconian.
00:20:10.000 They do have some market principles.
00:20:13.000 They have a stock market, for instance.
00:20:15.000 But it's a bizarre balance of an oligarchy and cronyism that is closest to, honestly, fascism, not private property protected, bottom-up, free market capitalism.
00:20:31.000 90% of the country are basically slaves to the Chinese Communist Party, effectively.
00:20:38.000 We know they are not a Western nation.
00:20:41.000 And there was so much naivete in the early 2000s and the late 1990s, early 2000s.
00:20:47.000 And we would be led to believe by the experts, yet another failure from the expert class, that the more that we buy our Levi jeans and our iPhones and the toys for our kids and our strollers and our car seats,
00:21:08.000 From China, the more that we buy the plastic inventory, that all of a sudden China is going to be no different than Columbus, Ohio.
00:21:21.000 They're going to say, oh, you know, we don't like this communist thing.
00:21:25.000 We thought that free trade would lead an evangelistic movement amongst the rank and file.
00:21:33.000 Not only did we underestimate them, but we significantly miscalculated because the blunder of the economic elite is they wanted it to be true more than they had any evidence that it was going to be true because
00:21:48.000 the money was so tempting and so attractive.
00:21:52.000 The money flows that people got from unfettered free trade over the last 20 years was so tempting that they concocted appealing and alluring arguments.
00:22:08.000 We trade pieces of paper.
00:22:10.000 They make our stuff.
00:22:12.000 They're going to liberalize.
00:22:13.000 They're no longer going to be Mao Zedong or Zhao Jinping.
00:22:19.000 They're going to kind of just make themselves a mini America.
00:22:24.000 And the opposite happened.
00:22:25.000 The rise of China has been financed by our trade policies.
00:22:30.000 Turns out that elites are really good at coming up with rationalizations.
00:22:34.000 For making a lot of money for themselves.
00:22:36.000 You ever notice that?
00:22:37.000 They're really good at creating these abstract, persuasive macro arguments.
00:22:44.000 Meanwhile, they make more money than ever.
00:22:46.000 You lose your job and we have a new enemy that we financed.
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00:23:48.000 Okay, I want to play some more pieces of tape here and really dive into this.
00:23:53.000 All eyes are on China.
00:23:55.000 The entire trade situation ends and begins with China.
00:24:01.000 The whole conversation.
00:24:04.000 It is a narrowed zero in focus on the dominance of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:24:09.000 We created this problem and now it's time for us to fix this problem.
00:24:13.000 The Chinese Communist Party would not be a Emerging global superpower if it was not for us letting them into the World Trade Organization.
00:24:22.000 Thank you, Bill Clinton.
00:24:23.000 For us allowing their superpower status and for us to come under the perplexing fascination that the more plastic that we import into our country, the richer we get.
00:24:36.000 Paper for plastic.
00:24:38.000 Paper for plastic.
00:24:39.000 And they used that money, the Chinese Communist Party used those dollars to build an empire.
00:24:45.000 Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank has been excellent on this.
00:24:49.000 He's been terrific.
00:24:50.000 We should have him on the show.
00:24:51.000 He's been terrific.
00:24:52.000 Let's play Cut 170.
00:24:54.000 104% tariffs in China are not enough.
00:24:57.000 I'm advocating 400%.
00:24:59.000 I do business in China.
00:25:01.000 They don't play by the rules.
00:25:02.000 They've been in the WTO for decades.
00:25:04.000 They have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.
00:25:08.000 They cheat.
00:25:09.000 They steal.
00:25:10.000 They steal IP.
00:25:11.000 I can't litigate in their courts.
00:25:13.000 They take product, technology, they steal it, they manufacture it, sell it back here.
00:25:19.000 This is exactly right.
00:25:20.000 The Chinese Communist Party has forced information sharing agreements.
00:25:27.000 They have a state-directed industrial policy.
00:25:30.000 Through the coordinated use of state subsidies and forced technology transfers and intellectual property appropriation, China has fused industrial policy with their national strategy.
00:25:40.000 There's a program that is called Made in China 2025.
00:25:44.000 And when you read it, it is not merely economic in its intent.
00:25:48.000 It's about creating massive instruments of global influence.
00:25:54.000 All designed to displace Western dominance.
00:25:57.000 In what?
00:25:58.000 Advanced manufacturing, robotics, aerospace, and biotech.
00:26:01.000 So they flood global markets with artificially cheap goods, often produced under terrible environmental and labor standards.
00:26:09.000 And then China has decimated domestic manufacturing abroad.
00:26:12.000 It has flood the zone, you buy the stuff, and then all of a sudden you're dependent on them.
00:26:17.000 It is a long-term enveloping strategy.
00:26:20.000 Play cut 171.
00:26:22.000 This is not about tariffs anymore.
00:26:25.000 Nobody has taken on China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades.
00:26:30.000 I have nothing against the Chinese people.
00:26:34.000 They brought great literacy, art and tech to the world.
00:26:38.000 The government cheats and steals.
00:26:41.000 And finally, an administration, you may not like Trump, you may not like his style or his rhetoric.
00:26:47.000 Finally, an administration that puts up
00:26:50.000 The Chinese Communist Party is running out of cards.
00:26:55.000 There's still a lot they can do.
00:26:56.000 They hold cards with rare earth minerals.
00:27:00.000 But when you have a trade deficit with the other country, you actually have more leverage.
00:27:05.000 The Chinese stock market is down significantly.
00:27:07.000 Our stock market is up and I can't even keep track.
00:27:10.000 I don't even want to do the stock market thing.
00:27:11.000 It's way too frenetic.
00:27:12.000 It's way too vault.
00:27:14.000 This is the first time anyone has stood up to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:27:18.000 Why? Because our elites have made so much money and it is the untouchable third rail.
00:27:24.000 Well, guess what?
00:27:25.000 President Donald Trump is a class traitor.
00:27:28.000 He's a defector from the elites.
00:27:30.000 Brought to you by the American people.
00:27:32.000 Commissioned! By the working class to finally stand up to the great menace that we made possible.
00:27:38.000 And you're seeing it unfold in real time.
00:27:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:27:41.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.