00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, no advertisers at all for my conversation with Steve Smotherman in Albuquerque at Legacy Church.
00:00:34.000And so we have Kaylee McEniny, Ted Cruz, Laura Ingram, Josh Hawley, Greg Gutfeld, Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle, Kat Temp, Pete Hegseth, Byron Donalds, Ben Carson, Rick Scott, Lauren Boebert, Governor Kevin Stitt, Kat Kamack, Matt Gates, Jack Pesobic, Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, Sean Foyt, and more.
00:00:53.000And then we also have Turning Point Action hosting Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis.
00:02:17.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:03:40.000For those of you that have seen someone that made a decision for life and you know how beautiful and precious life is, and you prayed that the courts would one day make that decision, that victory was for you.
00:03:52.000And for those of you that work in the pregnancy crisis centers here in Albuquerque, God bless you.
00:03:58.000And I also want to thank so many of the Titans that came before that fought for this because this was a generational fight.
00:04:06.000There's so many people that are no longer here that fought so hard for this.
00:04:11.000God bless Billy Graham for his moral clarity for years on this issue.
00:04:16.000God bless Rush Limbaugh, who never gave an inch, who fought on this issue.
00:04:24.000And 10 years ago, Justice Antonin Scalia, another warrior, passed away.
00:04:31.000And he passed away in 16, but 10 years ago, he was saying, you know what?
00:04:36.000I think the court is just off the rails.
00:05:31.000And honestly, God bless Brett Kavanaugh in particular because let's not forget, someone tried to assassinate him a couple weeks ago, literally show up to his home to murder him because of this upcoming decision.
00:05:46.000And those justices, Clarence Thomas, Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Neil Gorsuch, those five people, what they have done has changed the direction of this issue.
00:07:52.000But what it did do is it clarified the court does not have the right or the ability to nationalize something that is not articulated in the Constitution as a quote-unquote right.
00:08:03.000And I'll say this, though, this actually, despite all the posturing by the media, it's actually a very moderate decision.
00:08:11.000It just sends it back down to the states.
00:08:14.000It's agnostic on whether abortion is right or wrong.
00:08:17.000What it does is it sends it back down to the states, where it always should have been, by the way.
00:08:21.000And by the way, marriage should be back down to the states as well, because there were states that always said marriage is one man and one woman.
00:08:46.000I believe that God is moving the hearts and souls of so many people to open their eyes to this tragedy, to nothing short of a genocide of over 55 million lives that have been taken.
00:08:57.000But this was an unbelievable, courageous step in the right direction.
00:09:01.000These justices had every reason to be cowards.
00:09:06.000The decision was leaked, almost assassinated.
00:09:09.000At every turn, they could have walked away.
00:09:11.000And I believe that is an inspiration for all of us to not cower the mob, to not give these people what they want, and to stand for truth and with moral clarity.
00:09:28.000And I talk about it a little bit, but what do you think it is that the people on the left, the liberals, the people, why do you think they're so passionate about murdering babies?
00:09:37.000So, that's a really interesting question, right?
00:09:39.000So, I don't, some of them, when I go to these marches, I talk to them and they will consider the baby to be a parasite, an invader, all these different things.
00:09:48.000So, really quick, because all of you are going to have probably pretty passionate abortion discussions with family members and friends, it's important to know how they debate.
00:10:12.000They say because the being is only half a pound, or because the being is smaller than you, then you should have the right to be able to terminate that being.
00:11:11.000Is it a cat, a dog, an alligator, a hawk, an eagle?
00:11:15.000As soon as they say human, like, okay, so it's a human being that happens that you're calling a fetus to try to disguise what you know is wrong.
00:11:22.000It just makes you feel better to call it a fetus, not call it a baby.
00:11:26.000And so by level of development, they say, well, you see, the being is not fully formed, right?
00:11:32.000So therefore, we have a moral right as formed beings to be able to crush the not as formed beings.
00:11:38.000And so then let's just extrapolate that argument.
00:11:40.000Should you be able then to starve a newborn baby right out of the womb?
00:11:55.000This is something that the pro-abortion community used to focus a lot on, which is the location of the being matters.
00:12:02.000Because it's within another being, therefore that being has the moral right to be able to terminate it, otherwise known as my body, my choice.
00:12:10.000Now, hilariously, I didn't hear one of these my body, my choice people say anything when they were forcing us vaccines against our will the last year.
00:12:38.000If a baby is in the womb or outside of the womb, or if it's in Albuquerque or Phoenix or in Denver, the location of where the human being is completely irrelevant to what that being actually is.
00:12:49.000And so they use that as a way to try to create a false moral high ground.
00:12:53.000Now, D in sled, size, level, development, environment, degree of dependency, the D is where they really focus the most amount of time and attention, which is that being would not be able to live without assistance from the outside world.
00:13:06.000And so this is very hard for some people to push back against.
00:13:09.000They say, you know, yeah, that's right.
00:13:11.000So, but then also, but immediately should say, wait a second, where else in widely accepted morals, which by the way means Christian values, just so we're clear, are you able to terminate another just because they're dependent on you?
00:13:23.000If a baby is born and you just leave that baby there, is that baby going to hunt and gather?
00:13:28.000Are they going to participate in subsistence farming?
00:13:30.000Are they going to drive to the grocery store?
00:13:44.000The value of how we determine life is not correlated with how dependent a being is on somebody else.
00:13:52.000But it comes down to a different and separate question, which is morally, what do you think the strong, the developed, and the old should do against the weak or the not as strong, the young and the vulnerable?
00:14:05.000We believe the strong must do everything they can to protect the weak.
00:14:09.000Every other civilization, almost every other civilization before America and most civilizations on the planet find there is nothing wrong for the people with power to crush the people without power.
00:14:21.000This is derived from the Bible where we believe everyone is an image bearer and therefore it necessitates legal, constitutional, and moral protection of that being.
00:14:31.000That just because you're older, stronger, richer, taller, have more muscle mass does not mean you could then use that incumbent advantage to go crush someone who isn't.
00:14:41.000Abortion requires the restraint of the strong to make sure the weak can thrive and survive.
00:14:48.000And so, but there's another point to this, Steve, to answer your question.
00:14:52.000They're focused on it because you notice they say, we want to have control over our reproductive process.
00:15:00.000That is in its core trying to become a godlike being on earth.
00:15:05.000Reproductive process is something that is left to nature, also known as God.
00:15:09.000They want to be able to control things that are only left to God.
00:15:13.000And so, for those reasons, it really animates them.
00:15:18.000I tend to find that everyone who argues for abortion kind of has a different, it has a different wrinkle or a different kind of push towards it.
00:15:28.000But here's the thing: is that we are winning this debate.
00:15:33.000And so, amazingly, they had a couple months' head start.
00:15:38.000Did you notice in the last 36 hours, even on Twitter, on Facebook, on YouTube, that our arguments are actually resonating with more people than ever before?
00:16:05.000Even if it means all the way up to the point of birth.
00:16:08.000And so, I just want to encourage all of you: this is an issue that we now have the wind at our back that for most of our lifetime we were always on defense for.
00:16:15.000The pro-abortion fanatics are more nervous than ever that America is actually becoming a pro-life nation, that we want to protect the unborn, and that they are losing the debate at every single turn.
00:16:30.000Well, the reason I asked him that question was so he could explain it to all of us, including myself, so I can answer it.
00:16:36.000Because, you know, we know what we believe, and sometimes we say things that people can't, you know, hang on to, they don't, because we're so emotional about it.
00:16:47.000But just to process people, that that's a baby, that's a human being, I think is incredible.
00:17:03.000And, and, um, and so, uh, you know, with all the transgenderisms, you know, people wanting boys to compete with girls and all that the homosexual movement entails.
00:17:25.000And so, drives them nuts when you say that.
00:17:28.000However, so it's interesting, you know, four or five years ago, I was naive enough to believe that there could kind of be a détente on this issue.
00:19:37.000My heart was for it to become kind of a non-issue, and all of a sudden bridges could be built.
00:19:41.000And my goodness, the opposite was true.
00:19:44.000In reality, that was the beginning of them taking advantage of us that all of a sudden go after children, whether it be drag queens.
00:19:52.000And now the next development is the chemical castration of our children, where you are seeing many young ladies in this state, I know this to be true, and across the country, be prescribed irreversible hormone blockers, puberty blockers, because they'll say some things to a counselor and irreversibly damaging pharmaceutical products will be administered to them.
00:20:16.000And so I think all of us need to kind of take an honest assessment that, man, four or five years ago, or maybe a decade ago, that we might have, we were kind of swindled, to be perfectly honest.
00:20:26.000And look, I know people in my own personal life that are homosexual and they participate in that lifestyle.
00:20:33.000And that that's a separate question than whether or not what we are going to believe from a public policy perspective and also what we are going to call right and wrong.
00:20:43.000And so where we at right, where we are at right now is that, and there's another part of this, though, which is how tyrannical those four steps actually become, right?
00:20:52.000And so what I have grown to learn is that it's not live and let live.
00:21:03.000And next thing you know, your child has to show up to a drag queen event at the local public school.
00:21:08.000We do nothing and they have an incredibly pornographic piece of curriculum for 10-year-olds or 11-year-olds in the local public school.
00:21:17.000We do nothing and then they're prescribing hormone blockers without parental consent at public schools across this state and across the country.
00:21:26.000And I know many of you are in the same boat as we are, which is we're not going to put up with it anymore, actually, which is that the heart I now have is the stand for truth, which is that we must understand that there is the laws of nature and nature's God, that there is a natural law, and that we are not going to give an inch on God's plan for his people.
00:21:48.000That marriage is for one man and one woman to be in a perfect union together.
00:21:53.000That God created man and God created woman, and that we will not allow these secular humanists to go after our children, period.
00:22:02.000We're not going to allow it to happen.
00:22:07.000So with that hormone blockers, we were talking to some of the pastors earlier, you were, and you began to describe what they're saying and what the reality of those hormone blockers are.
00:22:17.000If they give a girl testosterone, so tell them when you call it chemical castration, if you'd explain a little bit more why you call it that.
00:22:24.000Yeah, so there's this lie that is pushed by a lot of these counselors to teenage girls that you could press pause on puberty, take these hormone blockers.
00:22:35.000By the way, take drugs that are prescribed to rapists in prison to try to destroy the reproduction of their sex hormones.
00:22:42.000Just you understand how these are not like on the edges drugs.
00:22:46.000These are highly aggressive interventions that are being done pharmaceutically.
00:22:51.000And then they say you could just kind of resume puberty whenever you want.
00:23:01.000Great book by Abigail Schreier, where she writes about this in great detail.
00:23:04.000And also Matt Welsh's movie, What is a Woman, does a phenomenal job of articulating this.
00:23:09.000And so you go through the entire topic with testosterone blockers and you realize that they are preying on young ladies in particular.
00:23:17.000They prey on young men, but young ladies in particular that have, let's just say, self-confidence issues, peer pressure issues, and identity issues at the most confusing part of puberty and development.
00:23:31.000And based on clinical data, the feelings that a young lady will have at 11, 12, 13, and 14, you know, body is changing, hormones are starting to rage, is they will get over that.
00:23:43.000The clinical data shows that also common sense shows that, right?
00:23:46.000What ends up happening is a counselor comes in after maybe a 13-year-old will see something on TikTok that says, do you not feel comfortable in your body?
00:23:55.000And by the way, most young ladies don't feel comfortable in their body because so many different things are changing when they're 12, 13, and 14.
00:24:01.000That doesn't mean you're a man living in a woman's body, by the way.
00:24:05.000That means you're going through puberty.
00:24:07.000And that sometimes needs to be communicated again and again for young ladies that are feeling that in particular.
00:24:12.000And it happens to young men as well, but far less young men than as young.
00:24:15.000And so then what they ended up getting in is these communication circles of people on TikTok or Tumblr or whatever, where they make it very popular then to come out as trans.
00:24:27.000And this is not, this is not just kind of like picking a different sports team to choose, to cheer for it, right?
00:24:33.000This is something that comes with sometimes surgical intervention as well, where breasts are removed and irreversible transition happens and occurs.
00:24:45.000And so we're starting to see this happen at such a pace.
00:24:48.000You're not allowed to even talk about this openly in a lot of communities, but I know a lot of you are parents and you are very worried and nervous about the nonstop propaganda campaign that is happening in local communities.
00:25:00.000And you feel as if you have no power whatsoever.
00:25:02.000That if you speak up, all of a sudden child protective services could potentially be called because you might be abusing your child, even though you want to be a good parent.
00:25:11.000And so this is something where, you know, and they will always use this kind of this term.
00:25:29.000Should a counselor affirm you or challenge you and try to bring you back into a place where you are confident and you are healed?
00:25:38.000If a counselor is affirming you, then the counselor's not doing their job.
00:25:43.000A counselor should try to have a target and a goal to bring you towards that, not to try and pacify or try to go down to where you are, where you know it's going to have long-term damaging effects and impacts.
00:25:55.000And this is all totally new phenomenon that has come into psychological circles in the last decade, which is we've been doing it all wrong and we have to meet the patients where they're at and we have to give them comfort where they are instead of actually trying to give them clinical-based therapy to actually get them, you know, get them to a place where they can feel confident in themselves and that they can actually live a sustainable life.
00:26:44.000Not to mention a lot of these young men are addicted to pornography and that they are being fed hyper, you know, hyper radical images and messages.
00:27:11.000If they can get a child to self-proclaim as trans, anywhere between $4 to $6 million of drugs and therapies will be given that child over the rest of their life.
00:27:24.000Now, of course, we all trust the pharmaceutical companies, right?
00:27:27.000After the last couple of years, we think super highly of AstraZeneca, Johnson and Johnson, and Moderna.
00:27:31.000So they would never do anything like this, right?
00:27:36.000Where they see this as an opportunity.
00:27:38.000If you look at the amount of drugs that have yet to be approved by the FDA that are in waiting, clinical two trials, it is dozens of drugs for this specific purpose.
00:27:50.000So just think of this much more cynically, that there's a gold mine.
00:27:54.000There are people right now working for pharmaceutical companies that want your child to have to have these gender issues intervene.
00:28:00.000The second part of it is this, though, which is that parents, I just want to tell you right now, if there is ever an issue to overturn the table, to shatter the glass, and to just to say upset friendships, please pound the table over this issue.
00:28:16.000I'm telling you right now that this is not the issue where you sit idly by.
00:28:22.000You have to be aggressive, you have to be bold, and you have to intervene because your child, and this is not a phase that will pass if the corner is turned.
00:28:32.000I want to say it again: it is irreversible physical damage, where from the deepening of the voice, the higher testosterone levels.
00:28:39.000And so parents are called to be guardians of their children, be vigilant.
00:28:42.000And also, if you send your child to a local government school, they very well might be propagandized with the curriculum and the local things that are happening right now.
00:28:50.000And so we have to be unafraid of what the bad guys call us.
00:28:53.000You are here to protect your children, their innocence, their virtue, and their future.
00:29:01.000So think about, so Charlie, the Bible talks about when you talk about that they want tolerance and celebration and then acceptance and the celebration.
00:29:08.000You know, it's interesting in Romans 1.
00:29:10.000In Romans 1, it talks about that if we as people not only participate, but if we applaud it, if we agree with it, if we push it, we're just as guilty as them.
00:29:21.000And so this movement, and then the thought that the homosexuals will say too now, you know, because they couldn't find a gene, you know, they couldn't find anything.
00:29:31.000And I think, well, so if someone came to me and said they were a murdering Christian or a drug addict Christian or a thieving Christian, I would say, well, you're probably not a Christian.
00:29:45.000Now, if they told me I murdered somebody and I got saved, that's another thing.
00:29:48.000So these people are so deceived and so lied to that they believe somehow they were made this way.
00:29:55.000And then, well, if I'm made this way, there's nothing I can do about it.
00:29:59.000We as the church, I mean, you know this better than I do.
00:30:02.000And I'm asking, we as a church, we need to stand up stronger and bolder, don't you think, from our pulpits and from wherever we're at and say, you're not born this way.
00:30:27.000We have to recruit them to what lies and deception.
00:30:30.000So talk about, if you would, for a moment, the church as a whole and the churches that are taking stands.
00:30:37.000Well, I mean, and this is so frustrating to me because how many of you have seen churches recently that have the rainbow flag outside of them?
00:30:43.000I mean, look at all the hands that are being raised.
00:30:46.000So not only are they not taking stands, Steve, they're doing the opposite.
00:30:50.000In fact, my mother-in-law went into a church recently and it was an Episcopalian church and it had a big sign that said abortion is healthcare.
00:31:00.000And so we have to recognize and realize that there are many people that are using the label of the church and the gathering point to push this sort of evil.
00:31:11.000And so, look, we need pastors to speak boldly and clearly.
00:31:14.000I believe that we're in a time right now where people are yearning for the non-political correct.
00:31:20.000People are yearning for truth because they've seen the consequence of the deceit and the lies.
00:31:26.000Do you think that we're a happier country than we were 10 years ago?
00:31:30.000Do you think that we have more young people that are excited and optimistic?
00:31:34.000No, we are the most depressed, most alcohol-addicted, most drug-addicted in history.
00:31:39.000And yet it happens to be the decade where our churches became the most politically correct.
00:31:44.000The decade where the churches tried to water down their messages the most, right?
00:31:48.000The churches where they were like, well, you know, we got to wear the skinny jeans and do the TED Talk thing.
00:31:53.000And don't worry, Steve, you passed the test.
00:33:10.000And if we know someone that strays off course, we have to love them enough to try to bring them back into alignment of how God wants them to live and not have them in a place where you know that they're going to be more likely to be living with, you know, kind of mental health issues or substance abuse issues or all these other things.
00:33:28.000Because Jesus is the ultimate healer of all those things.
00:33:31.000And God has a design that he wants us to live in alignment and obedience to those commands.
00:33:36.000And I use this example a lot because there is this kind of lie of modernity where Charlie, you are free when you do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
00:33:47.000You've probably all heard this before.
00:33:48.000It's a propaganda campaign towards your children all the time.
00:33:51.000That freedom is you get to be in charge of your own life, however you want to do it.
00:33:55.000By the way, I believe a lot of our mental health issues in America are way overemphasizing the me, me, me instead of serving others.
00:34:02.000I think that's a lot of the issue, by the way, which is you don't have to micromanage how you feel in every moment.
00:34:40.000I get to the kind of point I was making, which is if it was true that doing whatever you want to do, whenever you want to do it, then alcoholics would be the most free people in the world.
00:34:50.000And we all know, and I just use that example, I could use 50 different addictions, right?
00:34:55.000Gambling, addiction, all sorts of addiction, overspending, whatever, that alcoholics will be the first one to tell you that they're not free.
00:35:06.000And the Bible talks clearly about this, especially in the New Testament.
00:35:10.000Paul wrote about drunkenness and sorcery and all these things you could be unfree, you know, you could be captive to, which is that it's actually restraining yourself from your fleshly impulse that makes you free.
00:35:22.000That the decision not to do the thing you want to do actually keeps your soul at peace and keeps your being at peace.
00:35:30.000It is the opposite of actually what the world tells you all the time, which is indulge in your flesh, go to the casino, buy the next thing, have the next drink of alcohol, do what makes you feel good.
00:35:41.000And we actually know the biochemistry now and the neuroscience behind it is that eventually you're going to overheat your dopamine reaction and you need a bigger kick.
00:35:50.000And eventually that's when people crater down, you know, and they almost get to a place where they feel as if they've totally hit rock bottom.
00:36:25.000So, so, Charlie, just, and we'll move on from this in a second, but I, so the, the, the part of the Christians that I deal with here, if we were in Texas, everybody would be like hooraying, but here you're an anomaly.
00:36:37.000And some of these pastors know if you speak up against these issues, somehow you're offending people.
00:36:42.000So the thing that the church sometimes said, well, if I love them, I'll accept them.
00:37:31.000The people that, if you really love somebody, you're going to tell them the truth.
00:37:36.000You need to love them enough to bring them back in a place that will free them.
00:37:41.000And so, for example, if you have a 12-year-old and that 12-year-old says, I'm actually a boy, like, no, you're not.
00:37:47.000And you need to have the courage to say that.
00:37:49.000Because if you affirm that or you tolerate it or you accept it, you have to know the damage that that will be, that will happen for that 12-year-old.
00:37:58.000And then all of a sudden, you should then zero in on, because guess what?
00:38:00.000But 12-year-olds coming and saying, I'm a boy, they didn't think of it themselves.
00:38:04.000You have to then harness and isolate the external environmental factor that is undermining you as a parent, and you have to cut it off immediately.
00:38:11.000Because I guarantee you, they did not come up with it themselves.
00:38:15.000And within 30 seconds, they'll say, well, my teacher said this.
00:38:20.000Or I saw a series of videos that said that.
00:38:22.000They'll come clean because deep down they know there's something not right with it.
00:38:26.000And then you isolate it and you correct it instead of, you know, well, yeah, I just, I think that's, I think that's okay.
00:40:03.000He didn't feel as if he was above, because Christ has a heart for all of humanity because all of us are dealing with the same sort of issues, the same sort of struggles, is that human beings don't change just because time changes, that we're dealing with all the same sorts of things.
00:41:20.000People deep down want to be led because then that kernel of truth will kind of, they'll marinate on it and they'll think about it and they'll pray on like, man, there's something different about those people.
00:41:30.000They seem to, you know, really be able to chart a course in chaos and all of that.
00:42:04.000Because based on, I know how smart you are and what you talk about, we have a Constitution, but before that we have a Bible, and our Bible is bigger than anything should be.
00:42:15.000And so what is it that the church could concentrate on or people that believe or people who just believe in America should focus on in this day?
00:42:25.000So I'm going to connect it with kind of the news on last Friday, which I think is the deeper point that I hope really is kind of a shot in the arm for all of us, which is for years I would show up at Republican gatherings and conservative gatherings and people would say, Charlie, just drop the Roe versus Wade issue.
00:43:58.000And I think that it actually presents an opportunity for us with grace and with love and truth to communicate why we are pro-life.
00:44:05.000And look, this is not really going to be the case as much in New Mexico, but in other states in particular, if you live in a state that will now outlaw abortion, it is incumbent on the church.
00:44:16.000In fact, I believe we will be judged based on this second chapter to make sure that no woman that now has a child wants and needs for necessities now that she has chosen life.
00:44:27.000That at that moment, because we now have to do chapter two, right?
00:44:32.000Which is, okay, we made the laws that abortion factories are gone.
00:44:36.000Well, now that 18-year-old that is scared that will now have that child in Joplin, Missouri, or in Austin, Texas, we got to be there with diapers and medical assistance and love and care and to make sure that they are welcomed into a culture of life.
00:45:09.000And now we're going to be the ones to welcome those little ones into the world with what they need to be able to thrive and survive.
00:45:18.000And so that's my first worry is we can think big and we can do seemingly impossible things.
00:45:25.000But I just want to say this kind of just as the country, as where we are at the country right now, if that's okay, just kind of more broadly, which, look, I think that what a blessing to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:45:37.000And I think a lot of you are here tonight in this hacked audience.
00:45:41.000And thank you for spending your Sunday evening with us.
00:45:45.000I think a lot of you are more frustrated about kind of one thing than anything else, which is we're doing these miserable things to ourselves.
00:45:54.000Is that the greatest, most wealthy, benevolent, generous nation ever to exist in the history of the world is deciding to stop being those things.
00:46:04.000And I think that drives you mad because it certainly drives me mad.
00:46:08.000When I see an agenda that intentionally spikes the price of oil, that intentionally keeps our borders wide open, that intentionally weakens the U.S. dollar, that intentionally goes after political opponents while excusing the misdeeds of your own.
00:46:46.000If we're doing this to ourselves, we could stop doing it to ourselves.
00:46:50.000And we can actually fix this rather quickly.
00:46:54.000And so I believe we are entering what I would call the final phase.
00:46:59.000And I've done a couple podcasts on this and I've talked about this at length.
00:47:03.000We could talk about this in Q ⁇ A, which the final phase, I believe, is the last chapter before victory, where we will, metaphorically, of course, let's just say, extinguish the political woke movement into oblivion.
00:47:18.000Like similar to the Mesopotamians and the Egyptians before them.
00:47:55.000It's actually, you were doing the right thing.
00:47:57.000But then Barack Obama got elected in 2008 and people started to wake up.
00:48:01.000And then he got re-elected in 2012 and people said something doesn't sit right here.
00:48:05.000And then around 13 or 14, the American left realized that their multi-decade gig was starting to get exposed.
00:48:13.000But all of a sudden that we realized that they overtook the universities, the public health departments, and the corporations.
00:48:19.000And they used what ended up being an incredibly and remarkably and shockingly effective weapon against all of us, name-calling.
00:48:30.000They weaponized name-calling to turn us into mass paralysis.
00:48:35.000And we all lived under that for a long time.
00:48:38.000In 2015, 16, or 17, just being called a racist could get you canceled from your job, isolated from a social group.
00:48:45.000And all of us were kind of like, well, I'm definitely not that, whatever it is.
00:48:49.000And then all of a sudden recently, and I don't quite know why, but I have some theories, about a year and a half ago, all of a sudden that spell they had over us kind of started to fade.
00:49:01.000People would start to say, I don't care what you call me.
00:49:03.000I'm going to go save my kid from the local school board.
00:49:15.000And all of a sudden, you have this moment and they're starting to realize it, which is why it's the final phase, where they realize their spell over all of us has faded.
00:49:51.000A family in Texas this morning, they attended the January 6th rally, totally peaceful.
00:49:55.000Their apartment was raided this morning.
00:49:56.000That's all they have left is Soviet-style intimidation to try to get you to stop because all they have left is handcuffs, leg irons, and the ability to deplatform you.
00:50:47.000The second most Hispanic district in the country, 84% Hispanic, that previously was a Democrat plus 25 district, voted for Republican plus five points two weeks ago.
00:51:09.000And I'm just going to talk about this on my personal behalf because it's more political.
00:51:15.000But I will say this, that heading into November and in New Mexico, a state that is 65% Hispanic, if a state that's 65% Hispanic could even do a little bit of what the Rio Grande Valley did, that is 84% Hispanic, everything is on the table, everybody.
00:51:39.000The Hispanic community long was the treasured of the American left, but they decided to embrace an ultra white, upper-middle-class, woke ideological agenda where they're telling people that men can become pregnant and that men and women can be whatever they want to be.
00:51:58.000Now that might be really popular in Malibu and in the Upper East Side of New York, but that dog does not hunt in Albuquerque for a lower middle class Hispanic working family.
00:52:13.000Where in the Hispanic community, the tradition and the legacy of strong families of men being men and women being women is something you don't mess with that.
00:52:26.000And yet these woke white liberals come in almost imperialistically to try to upend hundreds of years of tradition.
00:52:36.000And they are met with massive resistance.
00:52:39.000So what I'm just trying to encourage all of you is you are living through what I believe a once in a hundred year realignment.
00:52:48.000A once in a hundred year realignment where you're seeing the treasured demographic of the left, the Hispanic community, move not just a little bit, 30 points in four years.
00:53:49.000So I had originally had a question, but you answered it about the homosexual Christian ideology.
00:53:58.000So my next question is, so I have a best friend who was more than willing to get the vaccine in order to continue going to college as a dance major.
00:54:13.000In my opinion, that's incredibly weak-minded.
00:54:16.000How can I talk to someone and try and convince them to the other way?
00:54:23.000Okay, yeah, look, I'll say this on the vaccine.
00:54:27.000I know a lot of people that were forced to get it and they made a decision for their family and to provide for their family and they didn't want to take it at all.
00:54:35.000And I don't blame anybody for that, by the way.
00:54:37.000There's some people that talk negatively towards those people.
00:54:42.000That with inflation and with soaring gas prices, you look at people that were responsible to put food on their table for their family, and they said, you know what?
00:54:50.000I'll take one for the team to make sure my family can maintain their standard of living.
00:54:54.000So I've never gone out of my way and said, how dare you?
00:54:56.000I've made my own personal recommendations of what I did and what I wouldn't do and then take the vaccine out of gunpoint, for example.
00:55:04.000But I think it's wrong to just kind of attack people in that way.
00:55:09.000Make your own personal medical decisions.
00:55:13.000I mean, look, I will say this, though, for your friend that's in the dance major, the question I would ask them is, you know, is the integrity of doing what you believe is right or what is right worth, is that worth fighting for or is convenience more important?
00:55:29.000And that person might say, you know what, I need to get this dance degree or whatever, and that's more important than my own, you know, kind of medical consciousness.
00:56:20.000So, but, you know, and if you're a believer, whatever we do, the Bible says it's impossible to please God without faith.
00:56:29.000So if you feel forced to take it or because you want to keep your job, man, in minimum, do it, believe in God, you're going to be okay.
00:56:38.000Because according to what I've read, there's a lot of junk in that that could hurt your body.
00:56:42.000Yeah, and look, just do your research, look at contrarian pieces of information.
00:56:48.000And I think it's one of the most immoral developments of my life that an entire healthy young generation was forced to get a vaccine against a virus that posed very little to no risk to them whatsoever.
00:57:00.000It's been one of the most frustrating developments in my lifetime.
00:57:52.000So I'm very pro-Second Amendment, and I'm honestly repulsed and disgusted by those 15 Republicans that go out of their way to try to vote for those measures.
00:58:02.000So you articulated something correctly, which is if we don't make the proper moral argument of why we have the Second Amendment, then we're going to lose this debate.
00:58:15.000So I'm going to do it right now because the media will always take your words out of context with this.
00:58:20.000But if you look at the actual original writings of the founding fathers, the Second Amendment is not there to hunt deer.
00:58:26.000It's not even there for family home protection, nor is it there for target practice.
00:58:30.000It's there if God forbid ever the government got so tyrannical or some power within your country got so powerful, not necessarily a government, it could be a gang, it could be a cartel, it could be a paramilitary group, it could be chaos, that you have to be able to protect yourself against a more powerful organization.
00:58:51.000That's why we have the Second Amendment.
00:58:54.000Now, the reason that's important is that if we just say it's about personal protection, they're going to be like, well, then you could just have a pistol or you could just have a shotgun.
00:59:04.000Like you said, the Second Amendment protects the other amendments.
00:59:07.000And I'll prove it to you, which is, do you think for a second, the 26 million people that were locked down in Shanghai for 100 days, do you think if the people of Shanghai all owned weapons that they would have been locked down?
00:59:21.000Your political freedom, your freedom of movement, your freedom of speech is tied to your ability for all of a sudden the politicians know that there's a limit, that they can't push you too far.
00:59:31.000Do you think China would have been able to annex Hong Kong, for example, if every single person in Hong Kong had an AR-15 around their back, not use it?
00:59:39.000No, they would have been scared and they would have had a negotiation, not a hostage situation.
00:59:43.000And armed citizenry is the best last reserve we have to be able to preserve self-government.
00:59:50.000So finally, I'll say this kind of with your point about the Second Amendment with going on in Washington, D.C.
00:59:56.000The far left in Washington, D.C. wants to do everything possibly can to have gun registration and gun confiscation.
01:00:02.000Why Republicans are going above and beyond for this red flag law thing is crazy.
01:00:06.000Now, some of you here tonight might say, come on, Charlie, I support red flag laws.
01:00:10.000I will say this, a majority of people I know that support red flag laws are good people that want them for the right reasons.
01:00:17.000Your intentions mean nothing when it comes to public policy, but I just want to validate most of you that push for red flag laws, you're actually really sweet people.
01:00:25.000I really, I think a lot of, you're not like gun grabbers, you want it for the right reasons, but you're totally, you're totally wrong.
01:00:33.000So a red flag law, okay, would allow anybody that does not like you, former boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, community member, political activist, to flag you without you knowing, where a hearing occurs without you being present, without due process, to take your weapons away and your ability to purchase weapons.
01:00:54.000Anybody here, anybody here seeing a therapist maybe for anxiety or depression?
01:01:10.000Anybody here go to a school board meeting anytime soon?
01:01:12.000Well, according to the FBI, anytime recently, the FBI calls people that show up at school board meetings domestic terrorists, red flag.
01:01:20.000So what they're doing is they're creating a very undefined definition that then could be used to be able to confiscate people's weapons away in a time, by the way, where we might be facing food shortages, fuel shortages, God forbid, a summer of riots and violent crime is going up across America.
01:01:37.000And it certainly is going up in Albuquerque if I'm looking at the same, if I'm looking at the correct data.
01:01:42.000This is the worst time ever to try to institute gun confiscation and gun grabbing in America.
01:01:47.000And I'm just so repulsed by the Republicans that are putting this forward.
01:02:06.000If you don't know how that works, ask a seventh grader around you.
01:02:10.000So you take out your phone as if you're trying to take a picture and then you scan it there and then you're able to subscribe in the upper right-hand corner.
01:02:18.000We do three podcasts a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday, all from a biblical perspective.
01:02:46.000And in the area of gender dysphoria, which I do think gender dysphoria is now a medical term for people who are born a certain sex but want to change their sex.
01:02:58.000I know they're trying to even do away with that term gender dysphoria.
01:03:02.000And shouldn't we push back on big pharma to try to get big pharma to treat people with gender dysphoria in another way, not just with these intrusive pharmaceuticals?
01:03:14.000Because it is, you know, and I'm speaking from someone back in the 80s, a lot of women were diagnosed with anorexia where you thought you were fat, but you're really like skinny.
01:03:38.000And I do encourage everybody, and this is, I don't want to give medical advice as a doctor, but it's a general good life rule that will weaken big pharma, which is when you're sick or when you have ailments or pains, look for natural homeopathic solutions first, and then maybe go to pharmaceutical intervention.
01:03:53.000That's my only piece of advice: is that if the studies show that if you look for homeopathic natural interventions first and then pharmaceutical, that 70 to 80% of their power goes away.
01:04:06.000Now, I know there's people in this room that need blood pressure medication, and that stuff is very difficult to solve homeopathically or naturally.
01:04:14.000Okay, I'm not saying there's no place for pharmaceutical breakthroughs.
01:04:18.000What I am saying, though, is that there is a much deeper reservoir of options, of lifestyle improvements, diet changes, exercise, also vitamins, essential oils that very well might be able to help you before you go kind of get the prescription at the local.
01:04:36.000That will weaken them in a way you could imagine.
01:04:38.000This is why they go after those industries so aggressively.
01:04:41.000To your question, though, yeah, I mean, look, but the pharmaceutical companies want nothing to do with treating them differently.
01:04:49.000And so they see a child in angst and anxiety, and they want to put them on a variety of slew of medication, not just limited to, by the way, to the chemical castration, puberty blockers, of all that, but also benzodiazepans.
01:05:18.000I think their minds are still developing.
01:05:20.000I'm not saying there's not a role for them for certain people, but boy, I'm telling you right now, for young, developing, molding minds, we have 4 million children under the HB team in America that are on regular, steady doses of psychiatric medicine.
01:05:33.000I think no one can make an argument that that's a good thing for me.
01:06:48.000And so, my current political philosophy is very simple, and you could feel free to disagree, but the hour is late, and we must know what time it is.
01:06:58.000Not literally, what's about what time it is, which is this: either we're going to win or they're going to win.
01:07:04.000They want nothing to do with negotiation or middle ground, nothing at all.
01:07:08.000And so, it's a tough thing to accept, right?
01:07:11.000So, we have to win and we're going to win, and we're going to do that by not giving an inch.
01:07:20.000The farther, the more left the left goes, then the right, if you want to use those terms, the right, the conservatives, people who believe in American Constitution, believe in God and Bible, they tend to want to compromise.
01:08:22.000Also, I know that there are a lot of believers here, so I want to know how do you present your ideas to people who refuse to believe that the Bible is truth?
01:08:31.000So, look, the good rule for life, and I learned this the hard way having to go speak at Berkeley and Stanford and UCLA and CU Boulder, is you have to, you should stop talking to somebody when they're not coming after the debate in good faith.
01:08:46.000And you kind of have a pretty good built-in meter for that.
01:08:49.000But if they're just being intentionally dismissive, arrogant, just stop.
01:09:36.000Okay, why is it that every apostle then that saw Jesus after he died, why did they go die a death where they had every chance to recount it?
01:09:45.000Who willingly dies for a lie, exactly?
01:09:48.000So maybe it's not you don't believe the Bible, being even told not to believe the Bible because you actually don't know what's in it.
01:10:26.000So if I had an ultrasound of a baby that was conceived in a consensual married relationship and a baby that was conceived in rape, which one would it be?
01:10:36.000So they're both babies and they're both worthy of constitutional protection.
01:11:07.000Yeah, it's 0.6 of all abortions, 0.6% of all abortions.
01:11:12.000And the final thing I'll just say, never in any sort of moral construct is doing something awful and evil the right response to something awful and evil.
01:12:18.000So Jesus calls us to be salt and light.
01:12:20.000So salt and light have two things in common.
01:12:23.000They change the environment that they go into.
01:12:26.000And so we are called to be change makers for Christ and for liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea.
01:12:31.000And therefore, so can you be salt just when everyone agrees with you?
01:12:37.000You got to go places that need the saltiness or that need the light.
01:12:40.000So you have to go to places that are dark.
01:12:42.000And so as far as kind of talking more generally, in Jeremiah 29, 7, it says, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
01:12:51.000We are called to care about the land, the community, the county, the state that we are in.
01:12:55.000Daniel fasted and prayed for the nation that he was in.
01:12:58.000Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, and Joseph all tried to influence secular government for God's purpose.
01:13:04.000Jesus Christ said, make disciples of all nations.
01:13:07.000Jesus was charging his disciples and his followers to go to places they otherwise would not go, to not stay where it's comfortable, but actually to go where it's uncomfortable, where you're going to receive persecution and backlash.
01:13:22.000So I'm a big critic against comfortable Christianity.
01:13:25.000In fact, I think comfortable Christianity is largely to blame for why our country is in the place that it's in the last 20 or 30 years.
01:13:33.000And so, and the final thing I'll say is this.
01:13:36.000Those of you here tonight that have had your life transformed by Jesus Christ and you're born new, then we should have a heart to what?
01:13:42.000Love your neighbor as yourself, which means you want to bring that light to others.
01:13:47.000And so you should do everything you possibly can to do that in your community and your nation and in your town and where you live.
01:13:53.000And with your husband, when you said that if he said when the church is attacked, we were attacked.
01:13:59.000We have been brutalized over two and a half years.
01:14:01.000And I know because we've been fighting for two and a half years, along with a bunch of other pastors.
01:15:49.000So there was a clip on CNN with Anna Navarro where she said, we need abortion because having special needs people can be expensive and can be terrible.
01:16:52.000So the question is, what is a human being?
01:16:55.000Is it worthy and necessary of protection?
01:16:58.000And here's why Christianity is so important and why no civilization will ever be able to have the success or have the moral center that America had because we're founded on Christian values, which is, it's very simple.
01:17:12.000If a human being is an accidental clump of cells that evolved over a couple million years, then yeah, just discard the people that aren't as smart.
01:17:22.000Everyone developed because they're an accident, right?
01:17:25.000You're just here because of a roll of dice.
01:17:27.000But if you believe human beings are designed and made and have a soul and not just a bunch of chemicals running through their body, then all of a sudden you have a totally different way of viewing humanity and a different view of how you organize your state, your government, and how you yourself conduct yourself.
01:17:49.000Oliver Wendell Holmes, who's actually revered by the American left, argued for mass sterilization of women, what he called idiot women in the 1920s.
01:17:59.000We sterilized tens of thousands of women.
01:18:02.000Actually, some Native American and Latino communities in the 1960s had mass sterilization of women because they were considered to be not pure.
01:18:11.000Done mostly, by the way, by radical leftists and eugenicists.
01:18:44.000We want life because it's the right thing and it's the moral thing.
01:18:47.000And I just want to say one final thing, which is we need to respond publicly and aggressively of how sick these people are to say they want to terminate people just because they have special needs.
01:19:17.000My question is a little bit, might seem a little bit off topic of what we've been talking about tonight, but I think it has a lot to do with government tyranny and our Christian beliefs, the two versus each other.
01:19:30.000There's been a lot of talk about cryptocurrency.
01:19:34.000And, okay, I know it's funny, but the thing is, is I see cryptocurrency as the beginning of one world currency, which could lead to the mark of the beast.
01:19:45.000The other thing is, is that the government has the ability to look at your transactions because it's all electronic and take control of your personal destiny under the tyrannical government.
01:20:30.000But the technology behind blockchain, I actually think, is a liberation from the one world government.
01:20:36.000I actually think the technology behind Ethereum and Bitcoin, not necessarily them themselves, but the ability and the potential it has actually can make it so that you are able to transact your wealth and your money without the government detecting it, regulating, or knowing about it in a moment's notice halfway around the world, where you know how many dollar bills there are, how much value there is, where it's stored and how it's stored, and that they would not be able to access your money because it's encrypted and it's in its own, it's its own singular network.
01:21:04.000So happy to talk about that at a different time, but I just don't see this eye to eye with you.
01:21:34.000So if you lived in Arizona, for example, which is a great state, it's the best school choice state in the country.
01:21:42.000You would be able to get a voucher equivalent of your tax dollar that you would send to a local public school, and you could reallocate that to Legacy Academy, for example.
01:21:52.000Now, and so, for example, you'd get a $5,500 check from the government that you could then reuse and pay for tuition at legacy.
01:22:54.000We have to act boldly to keep on showing up events like this, support candidates that you believe that are going to pursue righteousness and liberty.
01:23:01.000And I'm telling you right now, every hundred years, there is a realignment that is written about in history books.
01:23:09.000And I want to be able to tell my grandkids that I was doing everything I possibly could to be able to push back against these degenerate forces and be able to pursue righteousness to make America a better place, a virtuous country, and continue to fight for what matters for future generations.