The Charlie Kirk Show - June 09, 2023


BREAKING: The Trump Indictment with Alina Habba and Andrew Kolvet

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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we go through all the details of Donald Trump's indictment, Alana Habash, his lawyer joins us, and we make a call and a challenge to the other candidates: Where is the opposition party in a time like this?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Donald Trump is indicted.
00:00:03.000 We go through all the details.
00:00:04.000 Alina Haba, Donald Trump's lawyer, joins us and we make a call and a challenge to the other candidates.
00:00:12.000 Where is the opposition party in a time like this?
00:00:15.000 Email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:00:24.000 Email me freedom at charliekirk.com and support our program.
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00:00:30.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:31.000 Here we go.
00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:34.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:36.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:40.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:43.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:44.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:45.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:54.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:02.000 That's why we are here.
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00:01:14.000 We're with Producer Andrew at the Turning Point USA Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:01:18.000 We'll have to celebrate here 2,000 plus.
00:01:21.000 I think we'll have 2,500 young women from across the country. 0.76
00:01:23.000 But today's not a day of celebration.
00:01:25.000 Today's a day of truth and action and honesty.
00:01:28.000 Again, here's your trigger warning for all you college campus types out there.
00:01:32.000 If you want to have just, oh, everything's great.
00:01:35.000 Everything's fine.
00:01:36.000 Go, like I said yesterday, watch Bob Ross, right, Daisy?
00:01:39.000 Go watch Bob Ross.
00:01:40.000 He'll bring down your blood pressure.
00:01:42.000 But if you want the truth, you want to fight for your republic, you're in the right place.
00:01:45.000 Andrew, welcome.
00:01:46.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:01:47.000 It's a terrible day and it's a beautiful day here in Dallas.
00:01:50.000 I mean, this event is incredible.
00:01:52.000 But to your point, I mean, I don't think I've ever seen our audience just reading through the emails, reading through some of the replies on your tweets.
00:01:59.000 I've never seen everybody so fired up.
00:02:00.000 You're fired up.
00:02:01.000 It's, and you should be.
00:02:02.000 I mean, this is a complete bastardization.
00:02:04.000 I think tonally, the person that got it the most spot on was you with your tweet.
00:02:10.000 I really think you set the tone yesterday.
00:02:12.000 That tweet literally changed the, I think, course of the debate and the dialogue yesterday.
00:02:17.000 I mean, hat tip to you for doing it.
00:02:19.000 You know, it was like you and Pete Hegsteth said something similar.
00:02:23.000 Mark Levin was on point.
00:02:25.000 You know, these are the days, you know, to kind of quote your monologue that try men's souls, but also it reveals who are the patriots.
00:02:34.000 It reveals who's going to tuck tail and run.
00:02:37.000 But, you know, here's the deal.
00:02:39.000 This show is going to stay right where we need to be, right behind the president, right behind the rule of law.
00:02:45.000 And by the way, it's less about Trump and more about, like, this is bigger than a primary.
00:02:50.000 And I think that's what your tweet was really all about.
00:02:52.000 Again, this is legal Pearl Harbor.
00:02:54.000 We said that with the DA.
00:02:55.000 This is even more grotesque.
00:02:58.000 I mean, the thing in the DA's office in New York is you would expect, okay, local DA, Democrat, never happened before.
00:03:04.000 Soros funded.
00:03:05.000 This is Department of Justice.
00:03:06.000 It's almost as if they're acting like the Republican House doesn't exist.
00:03:11.000 This is serious stuff, everybody.
00:03:12.000 So in case you have been living under a rock in the last 15, 16 hours and your first exposure to news is the Charlie Kirk show.
00:03:20.000 Welcome.
00:03:21.000 We're very glad to hear that.
00:03:22.000 Donald Trump is going to be indicted in Miami, or he's technically already indicted.
00:03:26.000 It doesn't matter.
00:03:27.000 Tuesday, he has to show up.
00:03:29.000 Yeah, summoned to show up.
00:03:30.000 All of a sudden, it's Florida.
00:03:31.000 Now we're talking about a total venue change. 0.87
00:03:33.000 As the great one Mark Levin said, it's because that moron in Washington, D.C., Jack Smith, realized that the venue in D.C. had venue issues because it has to take place in as to you have to try in the place where the crime was allegedly committed, right? 0.82
00:03:48.000 So the document stuff happened down in Mar-a-Lago. 0.82
00:03:51.000 This is very important, though.
00:03:52.000 This is important because it's not going to be as easy to get Donald Trump easily convicted with some jurors. 0.66
00:03:59.000 I guarantee you right now, you're going to have some MAGA Cuban mom who's like Miami went for DeSantis this last season. 1.00
00:04:06.000 Yeah, and Donald Trump almost won Miami-Dade County in 2020. 0.74
00:04:09.000 You're going to get somebody on the jury that some Cuban on the jury who's like grandfather was murdered by Castro and like refuses to go along with this. 0.90
00:04:17.000 I'm not kidding. 0.95
00:04:18.000 That's a much better jury pool than New York or D.C.
00:04:21.000 But what's interesting about this is that Jack Smith is taking a strategic risk.
00:04:26.000 And from what the reporting would suggest, it's based on timing, right?
00:04:30.000 He's concerned that if he tried this in D.C. where he knows he's going to have a favorable jury, I mean, it's like 95.5 in D.C., right?
00:04:37.000 D.C. and New York is where justice goes to die.
00:04:39.000 We all know that.
00:04:40.000 But if he were to move forward in D.C., what would happen is this case would get dragged out at least another year as the lawyers argue about was this done in the right venue.
00:04:52.000 So Jack Smith is taking a strategic, time-based approach in order to take him off the chessboard before 2020.
00:05:01.000 Jack Smith is making decisions as if he's running a Democrat super PAC, not a special counsel's office of the Department of Justice.
00:05:08.000 This is a $1 billion.
00:05:10.000 Donald Trump has to go through a $1 billion barricade in the Republican primary.
00:05:13.000 This is a $1 billion equivalent in-kind donation from the Department of Justice from the Biden campaign.
00:05:20.000 This benefits the Biden campaign.
00:05:22.000 Donald Trump's now going to have to be showing up for summons in Florida, in Miami.
00:05:26.000 We've never seen anything like it.
00:05:27.000 But I want to go to my tweet yesterday.
00:05:29.000 So in real time, I said this, and it's been totally viral.
00:05:33.000 Pete Hegseth repeated it on air, and Seb Gorka did, and I stand by it 100%.
00:05:39.000 So people say, what's the action item?
00:05:41.000 What's the action item?
00:05:42.000 You want to have power?
00:05:43.000 You need an opposition party in the country.
00:05:45.000 You need to show that the country has some, half the country that's upset about this and like you, that is fired up and angry has some sort of representation.
00:05:54.000 So here's what needs to happen. 0.93
00:05:55.000 It's not going to happen because you've got a lot of Vichy French Republicans, weak need vanilla types that like to tweet and put out press releases. 0.95
00:06:03.000 They don't want to actually do the thing. 0.99
00:06:04.000 Every single Republican running for the presidency should go to Miami and suspend their campaign in a show of solidarity and support, not support of Trump.
00:06:13.000 It's not about Trump.
00:06:14.000 Oh, I don't like his tweets, his ego.
00:06:15.000 He fired me. 1.00
00:06:16.000 Suck it up. 1.00
00:06:17.000 This is about the Republic. 0.99
00:06:18.000 You should be there in Miami when he gets arraigned, when he gets booked.
00:06:22.000 You should do some sort of an event.
00:06:24.000 Imagine the photo op.
00:06:25.000 I mean, Chris Christie would take up half the photo, and then you got Doug Bergen with those crazy eyes, and then you got Nikki Haley.
00:06:31.000 But still, it would be an unbelievable picture where you have all these people running, and you say, okay, now we have an opposition party.
00:06:37.000 And you better believe that if we had a Department of Justice special counsel that was indicting a Democrat for the presidency, every major Democrat would be there in harmony.
00:06:48.000 The media would be there.
00:06:49.000 Chuck Yu Schumer would be there.
00:06:50.000 Nancy Pelosi would be there.
00:06:52.000 We call on Kevin McCarthy.
00:06:54.000 We call on every major Republican.
00:06:55.000 We call on Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordan, the Turtle.
00:06:59.000 All of them should go down.
00:07:00.000 It's not going to happen because deep down, some of them, not all of them, they have deep contempt for Donald Trump.
00:07:06.000 They're cheering this on.
00:07:08.000 The only way this stops, and again, this is not going to be the only thing.
00:07:11.000 This is just a small thing to do, is you have to show a visual, immediate, decisive, and public visual and show of support that every instrument of power, we're not going to put up with this.
00:07:24.000 We need every governor, every attorney general.
00:07:26.000 We should have every Republican billionaire.
00:07:28.000 It should just be this mass chorus of we're not putting up with this.
00:07:33.000 And what do you have more important to do, Republicans running for the presidency on Tuesday when Trump gets booked in Miami?
00:07:40.000 You're going to go to Iowa to go like eat deep-fried butter or something?
00:07:45.000 Chris Christie's going to go do a town hall with seven people in New Hampshire?
00:07:49.000 Well, what do you have that's more important?
00:07:51.000 I don't care if you don't like Trump.
00:07:53.000 I don't care if you don't like his tweets.
00:07:54.000 I don't care what you are broadcasting.
00:07:57.000 If you don't show up to Miami on Tuesday, is I care more about my own political power than standing by the constitutional republic that you want to serve.
00:08:07.000 No, I think you said it.
00:08:09.000 You said it really well, Charlie.
00:08:11.000 And again, I want to hat tip to you because you set the tone for so much of this.
00:08:15.000 But what I, I, we were talking about this in the before the show started.
00:08:19.000 If you were advising DeSantis in the DeSantis campaign, and again, we love DeSantis.
00:08:26.000 He's been a great governor.
00:08:27.000 You know, you've endorsed President Trump.
00:08:29.000 It's not about that.
00:08:30.000 If you were advising DeSantis' campaign right now, what would your words be?
00:08:34.000 I thought it was a good question.
00:08:34.000 Yeah, I mean, so some people, you know, some of the DeSantis people were responding on Twitter.
00:08:37.000 They said this is laughable.
00:08:38.000 I said, if you actually want DeSantis to be president, you should go to Miami and say, I'm governor of the state.
00:08:44.000 Trump and I are not getting along right now.
00:08:46.000 I don't like Trump.
00:08:47.000 He's insulting me.
00:08:48.000 We're in the midst of conflict.
00:08:50.000 This supersedes my wrestling match with Trump right now because there is a transcendent good. 0.98
00:08:59.000 There's a transcendent ideal that is being defecated on by these Marxist thugs in the Department of Justice. 0.95
00:09:05.000 That's what Governor DeSantis should do. 0.93
00:09:07.000 He should be going, and people say, oh, well, would Trump do that?
00:09:10.000 Forget enough with the hypotheticals.
00:09:12.000 Here's what Governor DeSantis should do.
00:09:14.000 You should go to Miami and say, this is my state. 0.81
00:09:16.000 This is disgusting. 0.98
00:09:17.000 This is awful. 0.89
00:09:18.000 I'm not going to put up with this.
00:09:20.000 And I'm putting my presidential campaign on temporary hold to show support, not for Trump, not for this, because, you know, we're in a spat right now and we both want to be president.
00:09:29.000 Instead, support for the people that stormed Normandy Beach.
00:09:32.000 Support for the people that sacrificed for this country.
00:09:34.000 Support for the people that built this, for Adams, for Jefferson, for Madison, for Jay, for Lincoln, for the heroes of this nation.
00:09:43.000 DeSantis would look like a hero.
00:09:45.000 I don't think he's going to do it because he's getting bad advice.
00:09:49.000 At least he tweeted in support.
00:09:51.000 I don't want a tweet.
00:09:53.000 I don't want a tweet.
00:09:54.000 I'm done with this.
00:09:55.000 I want this.
00:09:56.000 This is enough of this sort of like press release stuff.
00:09:58.000 You're the governor of the state of Florida.
00:10:00.000 Governor, I like you a lot.
00:10:01.000 You got to be there.
00:10:02.000 Or if not, you're going to look as if you're putting politics above anything else.
00:10:06.000 This is historic.
00:10:07.000 This has never happened before where the federal government goes after a former president.
00:10:11.000 You have an opportunity.
00:10:12.000 You actually will go up in the polls, Governor DeSantis.
00:10:14.000 I was going to say, he would, that's.
00:10:16.000 Again, if you don't go, it missed the opportunity.
00:10:19.000 Yeah, we have the clip from the Bragg indictment, and a lot of people thought that that came out a little soft, a little flat-footed.
00:10:26.000 But this is the opportunity to redo that.
00:10:30.000 Again, it actually will help DeSantis, but that's not the main motivator.
00:10:34.000 It's what is right.
00:10:35.000 I just want people to start doing what is right.
00:10:37.000 But if all we care about is poll numbers and winning the nomination, then Governor DeSantis or Nikki Haley or whoever decides to go down.
00:10:44.000 Hello, there's a $1 billion bill waiting on the sidewalk.
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00:13:06.000 Oh man, he's the sweetest guy.
00:13:08.000 This is so sick. 0.99
00:13:09.000 These people are so evil. 0.98
00:13:11.000 This is Walt Notta, who is also indicted.
00:13:16.000 This guy's a Navy veteran and a personal aide, an excellent aide of Donald Trump's, by the way.
00:13:23.000 And now he has been indicted.
00:13:25.000 This is not just about Trump.
00:13:26.000 They want to severely destroy and damage anybody in the orbit. 0.96
00:13:31.000 This is what the Soviets used to do. 0.93
00:13:33.000 You know, when we say, oh, it's Soviet style, it's about the show trial aspect. 0.92
00:13:37.000 Remember, show trials are to make it public and on display, to make it humiliating, to try to prevent other action. 0.60
00:13:45.000 That's really what's going on here.
00:13:47.000 And so now a new indictment has been issued for Walt Notta, indicted in classified documents probe, who is literally working for Trump.
00:13:57.000 You see here, they know what they're doing.
00:13:59.000 They're going after this like a mob case.
00:14:02.000 They indict Walt Nada and they're going to try to isolate him.
00:14:06.000 This is what they're going to do.
00:14:07.000 It's very simple.
00:14:08.000 They're doing the same thing with Mark Meadows.
00:14:09.000 I was going to say.
00:14:10.000 They're doing the same thing with Steve Bannon.
00:14:12.000 They're going to go to Walt Nada and they're going to say, hey, you're facing 20 years in prison.
00:14:18.000 You're facing 20.
00:14:19.000 By the way, they're not allowed to do this, but they do it anyway.
00:14:22.000 You are not allowed to threaten the most severe sentence in exchange for testimony, but they do it in code, right?
00:14:32.000 There's some state.
00:14:33.000 Blake, there's some statute.
00:14:34.000 You can't do it bluntly, but they do it anyway.
00:14:37.000 And so they go to Walt Nada, who's now been indicted, and they say, you know, he doesn't have the same attorneys.
00:14:43.000 And they say, unless in exchange for testimony and a plea deal down to a misdemeanor, in exchange for cooperation, then we'll be able to get the goods on Trump.
00:14:59.000 This is totally intentional.
00:15:00.000 This is what we thought Durham was doing, but Durham was a gutless wonder and he didn't do any of this, right?
00:15:07.000 So we have Walt Nada, who is this really sweet man who is going to be indicted and they're going to try to use him as a way to turn him to try to get to Trump.
00:15:18.000 Yeah, they're squeezing all around Trump and his orbit.
00:15:20.000 This probably isn't the last domino that's going to fall in this because what they're probably looking for is people with firsthand evidence that Trump somehow mishandled the documents.
00:15:29.000 Or, you know, there was a story breaking on CNN this morning that said, you know, Trump was basically saying I could declassify things as president, but I can't do it after the fact, which actually to me, and there's difference of opinion on this, but to me, that's Trump being having a very clear-eyed understanding of his powers, obviously pre- and post-presidency, and understanding the presidential presidential act that he's following.
00:15:55.000 I'm just, I'm blanking on the exact word.
00:15:56.000 But what's interesting is that, and we haven't talked about this yet, is that it's important for everybody to understand.
00:16:01.000 The Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute.
00:16:05.000 No, but it's been upgraded.
00:16:06.000 Exactly.
00:16:07.000 One of the things Levin shared yesterday.
00:16:08.000 Exactly.
00:16:09.000 But this is why they are moving towards an espionage act case, right?
00:16:12.000 Well, and the question is why.
00:16:14.000 The question is why.
00:16:15.000 Why espionage?
00:16:16.000 Because it's old.
00:16:17.000 It predates the entire classified document system that we all currently sort of understand.
00:16:23.000 And it sort of generically bans someone from sharing or mishandling national defense information.
00:16:29.000 So, you know, it doesn't take a whole lot of brain cells to understand it.
00:16:33.000 This is a law that can get abused very quickly, which is what we're happening.
00:16:38.000 And by the way, just one last point.
00:16:39.000 Woodrow Wilson, this is when this law came into being.
00:16:42.000 Woodrow Wilson absolutely abused this law, right?
00:16:47.000 There's a couple different stories here.
00:16:49.000 You know, there was 100 years ago in South Dakota, a man in South Dakota received 10 years in prison for writing a letter to a friend where he opposed liberty loans to fight World War I. 10 years.
00:17:02.000 There was another guy that said, young men are fools to enlist and go across and be blown up. 0.86
00:17:07.000 This man was convicted under the Espionage Act. 0.90
00:17:09.000 So this is a broadly written rule that doesn't get used against a president unless you have an absolute prosecutor like Jack Smith that's hell-bent on weaponizing the DOJ.
00:17:22.000 I mean, this is an absolute affront.
00:17:24.000 The more laws, the less justice, as Cicero said.
00:17:27.000 James Madison said something similar.
00:17:29.000 The more voluminous the laws, the further we get from justice.
00:17:32.000 So we have this antiquated criminal code that was written for a different time and place that was never updated that people don't really think carefully, but it's USC whatever.
00:17:43.000 And then you have a driven Marxist prosecutor that resurrects this antiquated criminal code to reapply it for a different time, place, and manner for somebody they hate.
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00:19:24.000 Joining us now is Alina Haba, one of President Trump's attorneys.
00:19:28.000 Alina, thank you for joining the program.
00:19:30.000 Immediate reaction to this Soviet-style indictment of President Trump.
00:19:36.000 The floor is yours.
00:19:37.000 I think you said that very well. 0.99
00:19:39.000 This is a Soviet-style indictment. 0.99
00:19:42.000 This is taking on your political opponent because you can't beat him without coming at him with complete and utter garbage. 0.96
00:19:49.000 This is something we've seen former president, not presidents even, vice presidents, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, all have as an issue. 0.96
00:19:58.000 And we heard Comey say that he just wouldn't bring charges.
00:20:01.000 But if you're Donald Trump, if you're the leading GOP candidate, if you're the likely nominee, and meanwhile, our current president can't walk upstairs, this is what you have to do.
00:20:11.000 It's desperation and it is Soviet-style stuff.
00:20:15.000 What is the mood of the president?
00:20:17.000 He seems to be angry, understandably.
00:20:21.000 We're all angry.
00:20:22.000 What is his mood?
00:20:23.000 What can you fill us in with how he's approaching this?
00:20:27.000 I think he's methodical right now.
00:20:31.000 Is he angry?
00:20:32.000 Of course, but he's not unhappy in the way that most people would be, right?
00:20:37.000 He is resilient.
00:20:38.000 This is, frankly, not very different than many other days for President Trump.
00:20:43.000 He has been under siege since 2016.
00:20:46.000 And then eventually the truth comes out, just like we saw with the Durham hoax, right?
00:20:51.000 And not the Durham hoax, but the Russia hoax and the Durham Report.
00:20:56.000 I think that he is no different than any other day.
00:20:58.000 He puts his armor on and he fights for the country and he takes it one step at a time.
00:21:04.000 And that's what he's doing.
00:21:06.000 So there's been a lot of talk about how this is a civil statute that has been upgraded to a criminal statute.
00:21:12.000 And, you know, the persecution of President Trump under this continues, despite the fact that Joe Biden, Joe Biden's not going to get indicted.
00:21:19.000 Hillary Clinton was not indicted with this.
00:21:21.000 Is there any claim potentially, Alina, at least from your perspective, of equal protection claims here that other people have not been indicted for similar handlings?
00:21:30.000 I mean, this is beyond a novel legal theory.
00:21:33.000 The New York one is wild.
00:21:35.000 This one is extraordinary.
00:21:37.000 This is an antiquated World War I-era law that has been resurrected by a Marxist thug prosecutor to try to fit a media narrative against an active president of the United States.
00:21:51.000 Are there equal protection claims that could be made here?
00:21:54.000 I think selective prosecution claims.
00:21:57.000 This shows that there's really selective prosecution happening, meaning that you are not taking your seat and your position at the DA as an AG.
00:22:07.000 And you mentioned New York.
00:22:08.000 That's a great example.
00:22:09.000 You know, Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850,000. 0.80
00:22:13.000 He didn't get an indictment out of it.
00:22:15.000 They keep taking these civil issues that can really be resolved very simply and elevating them.
00:22:21.000 And that's selective prosecution.
00:22:23.000 That's when you are targeting someone where your motives are not pure and where you're not strictly going by the code of the statute or the rule of law.
00:22:32.000 And of course, we will be bringing all of those claims and very quickly.
00:22:38.000 Andrew?
00:22:39.000 Hey, Alina, thanks for joining us today.
00:22:41.000 You know, one of the things that I'm looking into right here is this: you know, there's a, I believe it's an assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of Miami.
00:22:51.000 So one of the things that's confusing people is just the fact that this is even happening in Miami at all.
00:22:55.000 So I'd love to get your perspective on that.
00:22:58.000 It seems like they're doing that as an opportunity to accelerate the timeline here so they didn't have to fight over a venue, you know, debate if it should have been held in Florida in the first place.
00:23:10.000 But then there's this character that's emerging that I think is really interesting.
00:23:13.000 This is Karen Gilbert, who was basically found, you know, she was caught red-handed wiretapping the defense attorney, which is highly illegal, highly unethical.
00:23:27.000 How this person is somehow now involved in targeting a former president of the United States and not in prison herself is just incredible.
00:23:36.000 It seems like there's this whole cast of characters, this dirty cops being arrayed against the president.
00:23:41.000 Do you know about this? 0.86
00:23:43.000 Yes.
00:23:43.000 Yes, I do.
00:23:45.000 I have heard that this prosecutor came out.
00:23:47.000 I think Kash Patel knows about this prosecutor and spoke about it this morning.
00:23:52.000 I know he has a truth post out right now discussing it.
00:23:56.000 I don't know her personally.
00:23:57.000 I have heard exactly what you said.
00:23:59.000 That's great journalism.
00:24:02.000 It is troubling.
00:24:03.000 It is concerning.
00:24:05.000 But again, it's no different than D.A. Bragg, who is Soros-backed anti-Trumper, bringing claims.
00:24:11.000 It is no different than Letitia James, who is a Trump-hating attorney general in the state of New York. 0.97
00:24:17.000 It is no different than all of these people that we see time and time again, right?
00:24:21.000 So, okay, we have a prosecutor that hates Trump and also has corruption behind her. 1.00
00:24:25.000 What's the difference between that and the Biden family right now?
00:24:27.000 And not to mention the timing on this is so obvious.
00:24:32.000 You know, we had the $5 million bribery scheme come out, right?
00:24:39.000 And then they immediately say, oh, bring in the Trump indictment number two.
00:24:44.000 You know, we're going to look back at this, I think, guys.
00:24:46.000 We're going to say, this was Russia hoax number one, Russia hoax at the Mueller report, indictment one, indictment two.
00:24:54.000 You know, we're going to be saying this over and over again.
00:24:57.000 What they don't understand is the American people have caught on.
00:25:00.000 They've caught on.
00:25:02.000 And the corruption is deep.
00:25:04.000 But here's the good news.
00:25:06.000 He has good people representing him.
00:25:08.000 He's a strong guy and he didn't do anything wrong.
00:25:11.000 So we'll fight it in court.
00:25:13.000 An indictment, you really don't get a chance to put your case on at all.
00:25:16.000 You know, if they bring in who they want, they present what they want and they select who will come in to a grand jury.
00:25:22.000 But in a court of law, yeah, it'll be better.
00:25:25.000 And in Florida, yes, I think you're right on the venue thing.
00:25:27.000 I think they did it in Florida so that they wouldn't have to fight about venue because he is a resident of Florida and that is probably where the appropriate venue, but I'll let his attorney Sandalinus decide that.
00:25:38.000 And Joe Biden has been informed about this.
00:25:41.000 This is a cover operation.
00:25:42.000 We're just getting started on this.
00:25:44.000 Like you said, there's a $5 million payment.
00:25:46.000 I mean, we've known about this corruption and bribery for quite some time.
00:25:50.000 The Biden family is in some serious trouble because we're not going to let off.
00:25:54.000 And by the way, this is only now going to make the case easier to make against Joe Biden because there's going to be a, but what about the current president kind of talking point?
00:26:06.000 Talk about special prosecutors.
00:26:07.000 Yes.
00:26:07.000 I mean, the whole thing is so grotesque.
00:26:10.000 I mean, you've turned over Iraq and Joe Biden took $5 million in that country.
00:26:14.000 It's like, what countries did he not take money from?
00:26:16.000 And Merrick Garland is directly interfering in a presidential election.
00:26:21.000 Merrick Garland is a craven, evil man who is scorned and bitter that he was never on the United States Supreme Court and is using the Attorney General's office as a Democrat super PAC against active presidential candidates.
00:26:34.000 Alina, any thoughts on this? 0.82
00:26:36.000 It's worth repeating that the Department of Justice had a long-standing memo that they would not interfere with elections or indict current people running for the president unless it was such a huge threshold.
00:26:50.000 Any thoughts on this?
00:26:51.000 Yeah, evidently, when you're Donald Trump, the threshold is a narrow documents case, which every single person that's left the White House, be it the president or vice president Pence or anybody, anybody has gone through, but they elevate everything for Trump just like they did.
00:27:09.000 They stacked in the DA in New York with Bragg. 0.67
00:27:12.000 It's disgusting, Charlie.
00:27:14.000 And thank goodness for people like you and that you're continuously bringing it to the public's eye and saying it in plain English. 0.85
00:27:21.000 We are seeing ultimate destruction of our country, ultimate destruction of the bedrock of our country and the Constitution and things that we're not supposed to do. 0.98
00:27:31.000 And they're making us a banana republic. 0.99
00:27:32.000 It's embarrassing.
00:27:33.000 And I keep saying that as a lawyer, I am so sad because our oath was supposed to mean something.
00:27:41.000 And these judges, these prosecutors, these special prosecutors are putting politics first and America last.
00:27:47.000 And it's just a disgrace.
00:27:50.000 It's a disgrace.
00:27:51.000 Alina, thank you for coming on and please send the president our best.
00:27:55.000 Thank you so much.
00:27:56.000 I will.
00:27:57.000 So I want to get to a piece of tape, a statement here.
00:28:00.000 So you got Mitt Romney, who has probably one of the worst statements you could imagine.
00:28:03.000 This is Mitt Romney.
00:28:04.000 Mr. Trump brought these charges upon himself by not only taking classified documents, but by refusing to simply return them when given numerous opportunities to do so.
00:28:13.000 That is not true.
00:28:15.000 Remember, people from NARA came down to Mar-a-Lago and he showed them around and they had a great conversation.
00:28:20.000 By the way, document disputes, every president goes through document disputes, presidential library stuff, Obama, Clinton.
00:28:27.000 Willard Mitt Romney continues.
00:28:28.000 These allegations are serious and if proven, would be consistent with his other actions offensive to the national interest, such as withholding defensive weapons from Ukraine for political reasons and failing to defend the Capitol from violent attack and insurrection.
00:28:44.000 That is your Republican Party, Mitt Romney, everybody.
00:28:46.000 That's not my Republican Party.
00:28:48.000 Yeah, but I have a couple other thoughts on this.
00:28:51.000 So Mike Pence comes out.
00:28:53.000 And Mike Pence says, oh, you know, I'm sad to see this indictment move forward.
00:28:57.000 But he says, quote, no one is above the law.
00:29:00.000 What law, Mike Pence?
00:29:02.000 There is no law, as Mark Levin said.
00:29:05.000 This is not the law.
00:29:07.000 You're trying to say, you think that this is the rule of law?
00:29:10.000 Mike Pence, you could go to jail next.
00:29:13.000 And isn't it interesting how the Department of Justice issues a nice memo and they say, oh, Mike Pence, you're good to go.
00:29:20.000 One week ago, Mike Pence got a clean bill of health from the Department of Justice.
00:29:25.000 And then he announces for the presidency and he calls Trump his former running mate.
00:29:30.000 No, that was your boss in the president of the United States, man.
00:29:33.000 You're using your language intentionally to just try to jab and jab and jab.
00:29:37.000 Mike Pence says, let me be very clear.
00:29:39.000 No one is above the law.
00:29:42.000 We have to protect our nation's secrets.
00:29:45.000 And my only hope is as we learn about the facts of the indictment next week, that the American people will see this case would meet a high standard necessary to justify the unprecedented federal indictment.
00:29:58.000 There is no opposition party when you have a former vice president of the United States that comes out and says, no one is above the law.
00:30:06.000 This is not about the law, Mike Pence.
00:30:08.000 Deep down, you know that.
00:30:09.000 Here's the point, is that there is so much personal animosity and hatred for Trump, they are willing to quietly cheer this on.
00:30:17.000 There was applause and champagne popping amongst Vichy French Republicans yesterday.
00:30:22.000 Yeah, if you were polling like 5% to 0%, you were looking at this news.
00:30:28.000 Or if you're a Republican consultant or the turtle, they're smirking.
00:30:31.000 And you know what they're saying?
00:30:32.000 Finally.
00:30:32.000 Yep.
00:30:33.000 They're saying finally. 0.99
00:30:36.000 Finally, the man we hate has to go through hell. 0.65
00:30:40.000 And we get paycheck.
00:30:41.000 And we get paychecks and we're going to stay in power.
00:30:46.000 So Rachel Maddow is one of the chosen.
00:30:51.000 There are chosen right-wing Operation Mockingbird and there are chosen left-wing Operation Mockingbird.
00:30:57.000 What do you mean by the chosen?
00:30:59.000 The chosen are people that are selected by the Intel apparatus and the corporate oligarchy to just do what they're told.
00:31:08.000 Well, they publish the Intel community's press release.
00:31:11.000 Yes, they like Natasha Bertrand from Politico.
00:31:14.000 Remember 50 former Intel officials?
00:31:16.000 These people drive me nuts.
00:31:18.000 They get a word.
00:31:19.000 They publish the press release.
00:31:20.000 They don't even fact check.
00:31:21.000 No, they don't fat check.
00:31:23.000 If it comes from our government, they think they just get the right to publish it without doing any scrutiny. 1.00
00:31:28.000 And it's absolute garbage. 0.99
00:31:30.000 And this is how we get to the place we're at. 0.99
00:31:32.000 And there are some people in right-wing media that do this.
00:31:34.000 100%.
00:31:35.000 So it's a uniparty thing. 0.60
00:31:36.000 But Rachel Maddow is one of the worst. 1.00
00:31:38.000 And Rachel Maddow goes on TV and she admits what this is all about.
00:31:42.000 So what's important here, though, is that Rachel Maddow almost certainly, again, this is speculation, but almost certainly was on conference calls, text messages, and threads with DOJ people that were chattering about this.
00:31:54.000 So she didn't just come up with this idea, right?
00:31:56.000 She doesn't have unique or organic ideas.
00:31:58.000 She's not smart enough. 0.97
00:31:59.000 It's a really good point.
00:32:00.000 She is smart, but it was too concocted, right?
00:32:03.000 So here she is on TV all of a sudden putting this forward.
00:32:07.000 And you might say, oh, who cares?
00:32:08.000 It's just, you know, the weird man-looking woman on MSNBC. 0.90
00:32:11.000 No, no, no.
00:32:11.000 She's telling you that this is about him running for president, which adds a whole new difference.
00:32:17.000 You're not talking about Chris Hayes, right?
00:32:19.000 I can't, I get their interchangeable parts.
00:32:22.000 It's a total honest mistake.
00:32:23.000 We should just play the.
00:32:24.000 Let's play Cut 113.
00:32:26.000 You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House.
00:32:42.000 Do they consider, as part of a potential plea offer, something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again?
00:32:51.000 Okay, I want you to understand this.
00:32:53.000 She did not come up with this idea on her end.
00:32:55.000 Basically, what she's saying is that he could enter a plea deal to stop running for the presidency of the United States.
00:33:02.000 What she is suggesting, and again, this is not her.
00:33:05.000 This means that some lunatic in DOJ, Merrick Garland, as Mark Levin beautifully said, he acts like he's Helen Keller.
00:33:12.000 I can't see anything.
00:33:13.000 I'm not involved.
00:33:14.000 You know, I'm blah.
00:33:15.000 No, no, you are the first.
00:33:18.000 You are the maestro.
00:33:20.000 You are in charge of this whole thing.
00:33:23.000 You are the architect of the symphony of the Marxist prosecutors.
00:33:28.000 They are all straight to your baton.
00:33:31.000 You are keeping them in harmony.
00:33:32.000 You are keeping them on beat.
00:33:34.000 So the Rachel Maddow talking to one of these people, maybe Merrick Garland directly, saying, hey, Donald Trump, you don't want to go to prison?
00:33:44.000 Stop running for the presidency.
00:33:46.000 This is the way the mob works.
00:33:49.000 Hey, it'd be a real shame if something happened to your daughter.
00:33:54.000 It'd be a real shame if something happened to your dog. 0.97
00:33:56.000 This is no different than the Sicilian mob.
00:33:59.000 And Rachel Maddow is basically saying, hey, there might be a plea deal that you might run for the presidency. 0.99
00:34:04.000 Everybody, I don't want to hear another whisper that Donald Trump can't win in 2024.
00:34:11.000 If Donald Trump could not win in 2024, why is Rachel Maddow saying the Department of Justice should act as a taxpayer-funded Democrat super PAC to say, hey, part of your plea agreement to not go to prison, pal, for 20 years is to drop out of the presidential race.
00:34:27.000 It's like you always say, if their victory was inevitable, their propaganda wouldn't be necessary.
00:34:32.000 Their cheating wouldn't be necessary.
00:34:34.000 Their weaponization of the DOJ wouldn't be necessary.
00:34:36.000 Their spokesholes on the media saying, hey, hint, hint, drop out wouldn't be necessary.
00:34:41.000 So I completely agree with you.
00:34:43.000 I think there's a lot of doomerism on the right.
00:34:46.000 This is actually something that should make everybody have a little bit of confidence that we're on the right track here.
00:34:50.000 They're looking at the polling, and they actually know that we're starting to get on point building the early vote machine, which I, you know, listen, nobody has to love that, but I'm telling you, they're looking at it and they know they have a historically weak candidate in Joe Biden.
00:35:03.000 I just want to repeat what I said earlier.
00:35:05.000 Every Republican running for the presidency for reverence of the Constitution, our tradition in our country, should temporarily suspend.
00:35:13.000 I'm not even saying drop out of the race.
00:35:14.000 Suspend your race. 0.90
00:35:16.000 Suspend your race the same way that people did after a hurricane or a terrorist attack.
00:35:20.000 You should suspend your campaign for 48 hours.
00:35:23.000 Don't be in Iowa.
00:35:23.000 Don't be in New Hampshire.
00:35:24.000 Go down to Miami.
00:35:25.000 You could say all the mean things you want to say, Trump, but then you have to say the but, but this is wrong, and that's why we are here.
00:35:30.000 That's right.
00:35:31.000 Failure to show up on Tuesday in Miami will speak volumes about whether you love the Constitution or you want power.
00:35:40.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:35:41.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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