The Charlie Kirk Show - Building a New Republican Machine

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00:01:02.000 We had a very long weekend tabulating numbers and streaming late into the evening.

00:01:09.000 And so, Andrew, you and I were running the numbers all Sunday, and I found it to be very conservative that Carrie Lake would break 60% in this drop last evening, and she got 54.5%.

00:01:23.000 The only explanation is that she lost Independence Day of in Chandler and Mesa and in Gilbert, where a lot of those ballots came from, including in Congressional District 1.

00:01:35.000 In order for this to be as they say it is, it means that Carrie Lake was running behind David Schweikert.

00:01:42.000 She's running behind the congressional candidates.

00:01:44.000 So, Andrew, what's your take on all this?

00:01:47.000 Yeah, I mean, I think what I want to say is that we hear you.

00:01:52.000 We're getting all your notes.

00:01:53.000 We're getting all your emails.

00:01:55.000 We're seeing you on Twitter.

00:01:56.000 We're seeing you on the Telegram chats.

00:01:58.000 We're seeing you everywhere.

00:01:59.000 I mean, Charlie, I know there's a lot of suspicion out there that there is something untoward happening.

00:02:06.000 And I think I understand that suspicion.

00:02:09.000 We are hearing, however, from people that know what they're talking about that there are eyes and ears at every step of the process, that there are Republican observers literally at every step of the process.

00:02:22.000 Now, that being said, you know, you tweeted out something the other day that I thought was profound.

00:02:26.000 It's if there is the appearance of impropriety, it can be just as damaging as if there is impropriety.

00:02:33.000 So, yeah, to your point, a lot of people are suspicious.

00:02:37.000 A lot of people are crunching the numbers.

00:02:38.000 You know, to your credit, it wasn't just you sitting on the back of an envelope doing math during the last couple of days.

00:02:44.000 You've been calling everybody.

00:02:45.000 We've had Rich Barris.

00:02:46.000 We've been talking to people to campaign.

00:02:48.000 We've been talking to independent observers and pollsters.

00:02:52.000 Everybody gained this out that Carrie had a very clear path.

00:02:56.000 As a matter of fact, she was after election night and day two, she was the clear favorite, even in the betting markets that reflected it.

00:03:03.000 And yet, at every single drop, she missed her mark just by enough that as this accumulated drop by drop by drop, essentially this path continues to narrow.

00:03:16.000 And now there's still a path, but it keeps getting narrower. 0.94

00:03:19.000 So we need to have a monster night tonight.

00:03:22.000 I'm assuming there will be a follow-up night after that.

00:03:25.000 But the bottom line is, you know, you could take your imagination down two paths.

00:03:31.000 One, there's fraud.

00:03:33.000 Okay.

00:03:35.000 I don't have any evidence of that.

00:03:37.000 What we can say is that on election day, a day that favors conservatives, a day that favors Republican voters, and we talked about this a lot, there were massive problems.

00:03:49.000 How many people were disenfranchised?

00:03:51.000 How many people were told to go to another polling place only to run out of time, have to go back to work, have to pick up the kids?

00:03:57.000 How many voters did we lose because the county could not get their stuff together?

00:04:02.000 Well, it was, I mean, and we warned about the Election Day traffic jam here.

00:04:06.000 But look, I mean, I do believe that, I mean, look, the focus has been on tabulation and all the stuff happening in the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.

00:04:14.000 But I can say very confidently that there's incredibly suspicious ballot drops happening in some of these areas.

00:04:22.000 I refuse to believe that the Democrats are not ballot harvesting.

00:04:25.000 It's illegal in Arizona, but there is no other explanation that when you see these massive spikes in Democrat areas, I mean massive spikes. 1.00

00:04:36.000 Katie Hobbs is outpacing Joe Biden in Tempe and in downtown Phoenix.

00:04:43.000 And so this is the debate right now.

00:04:45.000 So it says that there actually might be 94,000 ballots in Maricopa County.

00:04:50.000 Now, there is a chance, it's a small chance, there is a chance that Maricopa is so incompetent or sinister that there's like 10 to 15,000 really good Republican ballots still out there in like drawer three, because we keep on getting emails from people where they are saying, my ballot has not been counted, my ballot has not been counted, my ballot has not been counted all across Maricopa.

00:05:15.000 Okay.

00:05:16.000 But every single model that we had, just so you guys understand, and, you know, we appreciate you guys watching the program all weekend, but you know, going through this, it's just been shocking and stunning because Kerry Lake won day of independence two and a half to one, even three to one in certain parts of the valley.

00:05:34.000 But then we're supposed to believe that she then loses independence if someone then drops off their ballot.

00:05:39.000 That means there is a 20 to 25 point drop off between independents that voted in person and then dropped off their ballot.

00:05:49.000 It defies gravity.

00:05:51.000 It defies logic.

00:05:52.000 And so if there are 94,000 ballots left in Maricopa County, it could be box three.

00:05:58.000 It could be favorable Republican mail-ins.

00:06:00.000 It could be really bad ballots for us.

00:06:03.000 And so we do not know that.

00:06:05.000 We're going to have more clarity tonight, but also we have the Pima bucket as well that we have to go through.

00:06:11.000 And so, look, this entire thing has been incredibly frustrating of the multi-days of counting and of going through this.

00:06:23.000 But this is not over.

00:06:25.000 Hope is not lost.

00:06:26.000 Number one, there can be an opportunity for us to reach out and get people to cure their ballots, which could be 2,000 or 3,000 potentially Republican-cured votes.

00:06:37.000 Democrats are doing this right now, which they have an entire ballot curing operation.

00:06:42.000 That's number one.

00:06:43.000 Number two, we'll see how Pima County goes.

00:06:46.000 Number three, there's still ballots left in Pinal and some of the rules that might help on the margins, that might help on the margins.

00:06:53.000 But the most critical thing is what's happening tonight.

00:06:56.000 And if it's 72,000, not as good news, but if it's 90,000, then it's very curious, where are these ballots coming from in the valley?

00:07:05.000 And, you know, basically, you know, people are emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:07:10.000 And I could see people are very angry.

00:07:12.000 You know, people are saying that, Charlie, it's completely stolen.

00:07:15.000 It's all these sorts of things.

00:07:17.000 And look, we're going to go through that as we have evidence.

00:07:19.000 Here's what I do know.

00:07:20.000 What I do know is that when I recommended that people entertain voting early because Maricopa County was going to create traffic jams, we were attacked across the board by people saying, Charlie, don't tell people to vote early.

00:07:35.000 Well, there was easily 20 to 40,000 people based on any estimates of people that were disenfranchised in Republican areas on Election Day.

00:07:46.000 Andrew, your thoughts?

00:07:48.000 The thing is, you know, I'm so sympathetic to the audience because I'm saying, listen, I see how this keeps happening again and again.

00:07:54.000 We saw it with Adam Laxalt.

00:07:56.000 This all feels like a flashback to 2020.

00:07:59.000 But again, I think we have to be responsible.

00:08:00.000 We have to say, hey, we don't see it.

00:08:02.000 Once we see it, we're going to be the first to talk about it.

00:08:06.000 We're not afraid to talk about it if we see it.

00:08:08.000 But at every step of the way, we saw that, or we were told from people that we trust, people that are on our team, people that want the same things we do, that there wasn't anything untoward that they could see at this point.

00:08:20.000 Now, it boggles the mind, but we have to also be honest.

00:08:23.000 You know, in some situations, like with Lauren Bobert, she was down.

00:08:28.000 And as the vote count drags out, she then becomes, you know, she ends up in first place, right?

00:08:34.000 So it feels like a lot of significant races we lose the longer these things drag out.

00:08:41.000 And I think, you know, hopefully there will be some consensus, especially in the state of Arizona, that, you know, one of the wins, by the way, of this election cycle is that the legislature in Arizona is going to be more conservative than ever.

00:08:51.000 Now, if the legislature has to go up against Katie Hobbs as governor, not a lot's going to get done.

00:08:57.000 But hopefully there's some consensus that this is not the right way to run an election, right?

00:09:01.000 Because it inspires the mind to think about ways that this could be rigged, gamed, cheated.

00:09:08.000 Now, we're not saying that.

00:09:10.000 I'm saying that it's not a good way to run elections.

00:09:12.000 Now, California, same situation.

00:09:14.000 I mean, we're going to be counting votes in California for another three weeks.

00:09:19.000 But I can say that A, this isn't good.

00:09:23.000 B, everybody missed their marks, which is, I guess, could happen.

00:09:28.000 But it appears that the Democrats, you know, got the inside straight right here in Arizona, which is mind-boggling, especially with a candidate as special as Carrie Lake.

00:09:39.000 But again, we have to hold out hope.

00:09:41.000 I don't want to jump to any conclusions.

00:09:42.000 It's how many ballots.

00:09:44.000 Hopefully it does.

00:09:45.000 If there's 92,000 ballots left instead of 72,000 ballots, it changes everything.

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00:10:52.000 I feel the frustration.

00:10:54.000 And look, I want to apologize for what I can take credit for: I was so bullish last week on all the data in front of me.

00:11:02.000 And so, you know, some people said, oh, Charlie, you misled us.

00:11:05.000 Look, I didn't in the sense of the data was the data.

00:11:10.000 And I didn't think in any conceivable universe that Kerry Lake was going to lose Independence Day of on election day drop-offs by five to seven points.

00:11:18.000 I didn't.

00:11:19.000 And so for that, I apologize.

00:11:22.000 I'm not going to apologize for somehow saying that I had a spirit to mislead people because everything I was saying, I believe that I wasn't alone.

00:11:30.000 Rich Barris, the entire data cruncher, is in the Kerry Lake war room.

00:11:35.000 And so, look, the data was very clear at the time.

00:11:39.000 And it's not over.

00:11:41.000 It's not over. 1.00

00:11:42.000 Kerry Lake can do very well in this final drop.

00:11:44.000 We still do not know how many ballots are remaining.

00:11:48.000 The Pima drop remains this kind of, let's just say, outstanding question.

00:11:54.000 Donald Trump won that very similar drop.

00:11:56.000 Kerry Lake is beating Donald Trump in every major county from Yuma to Mojave, what Trump did in 2020.

00:12:06.000 And I understand, I mean, not only are we upset, we're shocked, we are speechless in the sense of Katie Hobbs, who did not campaign, Katie Hobbs, who very similar to Joe Biden, basically refused to debate and communicate at all, was able to somehow beat Kerry Lake in game day independence, even though Kerry Lake won game day independence of in-person election day voting.

00:12:32.000 And so, look, this thing's right on the margins.

00:12:34.000 The good news is it looks like Abe Hamaday is almost assuredly going to pull it off.

00:12:38.000 But you know what?

00:12:38.000 I'm done predicting things.

00:12:39.000 It looks like he will.

00:12:40.000 I don't know what's going to happen.

00:12:41.000 All right.

00:12:42.000 Who knows?

00:12:44.000 Abe Hamaday is down 11,328 votes.

00:12:46.000 They might find 5,000 new votes in Coconino tonight.

00:12:50.000 Charlie.

00:12:51.000 Yeah.

00:12:52.000 Let me defend the show a little bit here.

00:12:56.000 When we were doing our streams, we got together and we said, no hopium, no hopium, no hopium.

00:13:01.000 I mean, it literally, the numbers looked that good.

00:13:05.000 Originally, the numbers looked fantastic.

00:13:08.000 And then every drop, we'd be like, well, okay, what's the explanation for this?

00:13:13.000 Well, I mean, like I said, I go back to what I said before.

00:13:16.000 There's two explanations: fraud or something untoward.

00:13:18.000 We don't have any evidence of that.

00:13:20.000 I know that's what the audience and what we're hearing on Twitter are saying, but we have a responsibility to say if we've seen it or we haven't, and we haven't.

00:13:28.000 The other explanation is that the conservative movement and the RNC and leadership need to get a lot better at the process of electioneering.

00:13:39.000 And I think that's where we're going to go in this conversation.

00:13:42.000 Now, there's a difference between ballots and voters.

00:13:46.000 Voters is the old way to do things.

00:13:48.000 And we're seeing yet again that the Republican Party, and I think you have to start at leadership, was caught flat-footed when it came to learning how to game the system the way the Democrats have.

00:14:02.000 Old school is working on messaging, debates, getting out your message.

00:14:07.000 New school is electioneering, the mechanics of collecting ballots and getting out the vote, curing ballots.

00:14:13.000 That's why something we have to talk about on the show is everybody has to go cure their ballot.

00:14:17.000 If tonight's drop is really good, but not good enough, the difference could be made up in curing ballots.

00:14:23.000 So you have to go, you can follow it on Charlie's Twitter.

00:14:27.000 There are posts about how to cure your ballots.

00:14:29.000 So if you're listening in anywhere in Arizona, you need to get on the ballot curing process.

00:14:35.000 And those, and we could bring up the website here.

00:14:38.000 But the bottom line is: the polling showed carry ahead.

00:14:42.000 A lot of the polling showed Blake tied or one point ahead.

00:14:46.000 Some had him behind.

00:14:47.000 We were never sure about Blake.

00:14:48.000 We were hoping for a great surge day of.

00:14:51.000 But to your credit, I also want to say you warned about traffic jams.

00:14:55.000 One of our most successful episodes in the last couple of weeks was you warning about traffic jams.

00:14:59.000 Well, I think you said clips there, right?

00:15:02.000 Yeah, we may do.

00:15:04.000 Hold on one sec.

00:15:05.000 Yeah, we'll get that.

00:15:07.000 But my point is, is that we have to re discuss, re-litigate as a movement election day versus early voting.

00:15:16.000 I am now very much in the camp, and I wasn't before, admittedly.

00:15:20.000 So if I can take responsibility for anything, that would be it.

00:15:23.000 But I'm very much in the camp that we need to get real good at early voting as a movement.

00:15:28.000 Now, I know there's concerns about custody and chain of custody and all this stuff.

00:15:33.000 Well, guess what?

00:15:33.000 Florida does it.

00:15:35.000 And there's a really good financial reason to do it because you know who's off the chessboard and then you can deploy your capital more efficiently to get the votes remaining on the chessboard.

00:15:45.000 It's just in the ballot box.

00:15:47.000 Yeah, when I talked about looming traffic jams, I admitted I was a game day voter, but I was willing to stand through the lines.

00:15:53.000 And then when I went to go vote in my precinct, it was a complete catastrophe.

00:15:56.000 Unfortunately, all of that did come to fruition.

00:15:59.000 It was traffic jams.

00:16:00.000 It was major messes.

00:16:02.000 And it makes you wonder if you would have voted in person on Election Day, would that have been any different?

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00:17:15.000 True the vote, Greg Phillips and Katherine Ingelbrecht are receiving thousands of calls of people that tried to vote in Arizona on Election Day and were turned away.

00:17:24.000 In fact, we know of many people that have emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com that went to go vote and they were told by the election workers, go to another location, just go find another location.

00:17:34.000 And there's only 223 of those in Maricopa County.

00:17:38.000 And remember, 70 of them, Charlie, were experiencing difficulties.

00:17:43.000 Yep.

00:17:43.000 So that much we know is that this was voter suppression either by design or by accident or incompetence or whatever.

00:17:50.000 But regardless, it's unacceptable.

00:17:52.000 That much is absolutely, absolutely true.

00:17:54.000 And if this race comes down to a couple of thousand votes, one way or the other, that's something that we can point our finger to instantly and say whatever words you want to attach to that, that's wrong and it can happen.

00:18:08.000 And I think there's going to be lawsuits galore on the back of this, as there should be, right?

00:18:12.000 And I think we're all sick of seeing people like Bill Gates go on TV and sort of in his nasally voice defend the process.

00:18:19.000 No, you can't defend what happened on Election Day.

00:18:22.000 You absolutely, it's indefensible what happened in Maricopa County.

00:18:25.000 And the people of Arizona have a right to be pissed off.

00:18:27.000 And actually the people of the country, everybody's eyes are on Maricopa County and rightly so.

00:18:32.000 Yeah, and it's beyond high stakes in more ways than one.

00:18:37.000 And so it's illegal, technically illegal, to ballot harvest in Arizona.

00:18:43.000 However, there's no way that they're getting some of these numbers days before the election in Tempe and these other areas without some form of Democrat ballot harvesting operation going on there. 0.99

00:18:55.000 Now, the way forward is for Carrie Lake to win 65 to 67% of the remaining vote tonight.

00:19:09.000 Now, it's not impossible, but based on last evening, it's going to be very difficult.

00:19:16.000 So there's a transmission report that shows that the likely remaining votes, the composition of them in Maricopa County are about 46% Republican, 46% Republican.

00:19:29.000 Now, if you look at that and if they kind of vote as characteristic as they are, then there is a very good chance that that's basically her baseline.

00:19:40.000 Now, if that means that Carrie Lake is going to have to win independence, probably 20 to 19.

00:19:45.000 Now, she did that in person on election day.

00:19:48.000 So it's not as if she hasn't done that.

00:19:49.000 This is the same type of voter.

00:19:51.000 So the remaining votes, this is an approximation.

00:19:53.000 There's 72,277, but then there's another 20,000 that we really don't know about in Maricopa.

00:19:58.000 Those could be really good for us or not so good for us.

00:20:00.000 72,277, 24% of them are Democrats.

00:20:04.000 46% of them are Republican and 29% of them are Independent.

00:20:08.000 Now, there is a chance that that will go over the top for Kerry Lake and that they've been holding back these ballots this entire time.

00:20:18.000 There is a chance.

00:20:21.000 Now, some people say, Charlie, you know, a lot of people are emailing us, Charlie, it's about the shenanigans and they're breaking the rules.

00:20:27.000 Look, I'm a total open mind about all of that.

00:20:30.000 I'm trying to focus on what we can do right now.

00:20:33.000 We have poll watchers, we have observers, and we need to go start to go try and cure ballots.

00:20:37.000 Curing ballots is something that Democrats have been doing for some time.

00:20:42.000 Curing ballots is something that people that have been doing in the Democrat Party for quite a while.

00:20:49.000 And we have to go out of our way now to go cure ballots, meaning that there's at least 3,000 to 4,000 Republican ballots right now, and we have till Wednesday to cure them.

00:20:58.000 And that very well might help Kerry Lake close the margin.

00:21:01.000 And then we're still waiting for this Pima drop as well.

00:21:03.000 But Andrew, can you talk just a little bit about kind of the broader picture here?

00:21:09.000 I mean, I know we're getting a lot of incoming from people and people are really fired up.

00:21:13.000 And some people say, I'm never voting again.

00:21:14.000 I'm done.

00:21:15.000 I'm terrible.

00:21:16.000 Charlie, I knew this was going to happen.

00:21:18.000 Look, if you want to blame me for something, blame me for actually believing that, you know, something like this could actually end up happening.

00:21:28.000 Meaning, like I was trying to resist being just automatically cynical all the time.

00:21:32.000 Andrew, your thoughts?

00:21:34.000 Yeah, I mean, it's funny.

00:21:36.000 I mean, you say one thing like there's you don't, you don't have evidence of the fraud right now, right?

00:21:42.000 We just don't, and everybody's upset.

00:21:45.000 So sorry.

00:21:46.000 I mean, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's, that's the fact.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, but I want to be clear, though, because Andrew, our audience hears that and they say, well, what about the machines that went down?

00:21:54.000 So that's legit, right?

00:21:55.000 Or have no, that's legit.

00:21:57.000 The ballots are legit.

00:21:58.000 So I just want to make sure we get our language precise, right?

00:22:00.000 Absolutely.

00:22:01.000 So there was disenfranchisement.

00:22:03.000 I believe there was intentional, I think intentional malfeasance, not just traffic jams, not just all this other stuff.

00:22:10.000 But we broadcasted to them, which was my big fear, that on game day, there were going to be issues.

00:22:17.000 Now, some people say, Charlie, enough of the I told you so stuff.

00:22:20.000 The only reason I'm doing this is because I think it's a learning lesson because I was attacked so severely for even saying this, for saying that there might be some issues on game day.

00:22:31.000 People said, oh, no, game day is the only way to vote.

00:22:33.000 I agree.

00:22:33.000 I voted on game day.

00:22:35.000 So what's that tape that we have, Andrew?

00:22:37.000 Do we have the tape?

00:22:38.000 I think it's 278.

00:22:39.000 Let's play that tape.

00:22:40.000 That there very well might be traffic jams tomorrow.

00:22:42.000 They might run out of ink.

00:22:43.000 They might run out of paper.

00:22:44.000 You have to be ready to wait many, many hours.

00:22:46.000 And Blake, you know, if that's the case, that means you're doing very, very well.

00:22:50.000 You know, if there all of a sudden are lines and lines and lines.

00:22:53.000 And, you know, just from an analysis, there could be anywhere between 400 to 600,000 same-day voters in Arizona tomorrow, which would absolutely just crush the algorithm, overwhelm the system.

00:23:03.000 And then the next one we have, let's play cut 279.

00:23:06.000 But to the broader population, people that are generally Republican, generally conservative, I am not at all saying go turn in your mail and ballot or go send in your ballot in the Dropbox.

00:23:20.000 Instead, you could go and vote in person early and you could track whether or not your vote is actually counted.

00:23:30.000 Now, I know a lot of you say, Charlie, I don't trust it that way.

00:23:32.000 I fully support an election day surge.

00:23:34.000 I think an election day surge is awesome.

00:23:36.000 But here's the one logical thing I want to walk through.

00:23:40.000 If you forget to vote early, you can always still vote on election day.

00:23:44.000 If you get distracted on election day, that's it.

00:23:47.000 It's too late.

00:23:48.000 And unfortunately, Andrew, what are the estimates?

00:23:50.000 Anywhere between 30 to 40,000 low propensity Republicans were turned away at the polls.

00:23:54.000 Is that right?

00:23:55.000 Yeah, we got some really incredible exit polling from Rich Barris that suggests that it was over 30% of election day voters experienced issues.

00:24:05.000 I think the number was like 37%.

00:24:07.000 And we know that those numbers skew heavily Republican.

00:24:10.000 And to your point on those clips, I mean, those are from like two weeks ago.

00:24:13.000 Yep.

00:24:14.000 That last clip that you played.

00:24:15.000 I mean, we were looking at this and saying, you know, Houston, we might have a problem, Maricopa County.

00:24:20.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the equivalent would be it's fourth and one and you got to score a touchdown.

00:24:24.000 And we told the defense what play we're running.

00:24:27.000 Yep.

00:24:27.000 Right.

00:24:27.000 I mean, we told, it's not that you don't have a chance to still do it if they know it's coming, right?

00:24:32.000 But we basically said, yeah, we're going to, we're going to do a quarterback sneak.

00:24:36.000 Okay, well, then they're going to go double pincer with nose tackles right on the center and put their linebackers.

00:24:41.000 The equivalent of the football analogy is we told them, hey, guys, our path to victory is everyone showing up on election day.

00:24:47.000 And so then all of a sudden.

00:24:50.000 And to that point, if more of our voters got out early, we would have been able to deploy capital, resources, and ground game to narrow in on the votes that were still on the board to get them out to the polls, right?

00:25:01.000 I mean, that's the model.

00:25:04.000 And again, everybody looks to Florida as the model.

00:25:07.000 Well, guess what, folks?

00:25:08.000 Florida has early voting.

00:25:10.000 You can vote, but what they personally, that's right.

00:25:13.000 Yeah, they cut off the window so that the tabulators have chances to have a chance to verify the votes and to count the votes on election day.

00:25:20.000 So we all look to Florida and say, well, they got 99% of their vote in on election day.

00:25:24.000 Well, why?

00:25:24.000 Because they shorten the windows when you can do it, and then they tabulate in the meantime so that on election day, they're able to count all election day ballots and they have an answer.

00:25:34.000 So you can do it.

00:25:36.000 You can do it responsibly and you can do it.

00:25:38.000 And guess what?

00:25:38.000 The old model for Republicans was early voting.

00:25:43.000 This is why Arizona, this is the untold story, why Arizona has early voting to the extent that they do was because the McCainites and the flakes of the world knew that old people in Arizona like to vote early, right? 0.77

00:25:56.000 So they used to clean up in that before what happened in 2020.

00:26:00.000 So my point is, do I like it?

00:26:03.000 No, I don't like the DH in the National League.

00:26:06.000 But guess what?

00:26:07.000 It's here, and it doesn't mean I'm going to keep trotting out my pitcher.

00:26:10.000 Okay.

00:26:11.000 Like that doesn't help me win games.

00:26:13.000 I have to get with the current games and the current rules that we have.

00:26:18.000 And we have to play those to the best of our advantage.

00:26:20.000 Now, you know, it's one thing if Kerry wins and we have a very conservative legislature in Arizona, we can reform all this.

00:26:28.000 We can go one day election day voting all day long.

00:26:31.000 And I would support that.

00:26:32.000 Obviously, I would love that.

00:26:33.000 I want to go one person, one ballot election day.

00:26:36.000 That's ideal.

00:26:37.000 But we don't play in the world of ideals and fantasy lands.

00:26:40.000 We play in the real world.

00:26:42.000 And guess what?

00:26:43.000 The Democrats have perfected this process and they know how to get out the votes.

00:26:48.000 They know how to get them out early and they know how to deploy capital in a very precise way once those ballots are in and they can focus their attention on what's remaining.

00:26:57.000 And that is one of the big lessons for this.

00:26:59.000 And it's not just in Arizona.

00:27:01.000 It's in Michigan.

00:27:03.000 It's in Pennsylvania.

00:27:04.000 It's in Georgia.

00:27:06.000 This is highly sophisticated stuff. 0.81

00:27:08.000 And that's where we need to go as a conservative party until we have the power to reform these processes.

00:27:15.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 And I mean, look, the idea of just kind of hoping everyone's going to show up on game day, we broadcasted our big play.

00:27:22.000 And so, you know, look, the Democrats, they take advantage of voting month.

00:27:27.000 They did that in Nevada.

00:27:28.000 They did that in Pennsylvania.

00:27:30.000 And you might say, oh, Charlie, that means that there's fraud and all that.

00:27:33.000 Okay, well, then what are we going to do about it?

00:27:35.000 Because now we're going to be in the, for example, in Nevada, we don't have political power.

00:27:40.000 And so we have a governor, but not alone.

00:27:42.000 So are you just going to, we're just going to keep on complaining about it year after year after year?

00:27:46.000 No.

00:27:47.000 I mean, I said this on television this weekend, and I'm going to say it again.

00:27:51.000 I do think it's time that for low-propensity Republican voters that we start to embrace voting early, that voting early in person is secure.

00:28:01.000 In fact, Republicans beat Democrats in Florida.

00:28:04.000 And so here's the thing, is that in Florida, in retirement communities especially, Republicans clean up in early voting.

00:28:13.000 Senior citizens get very worried about lines.

00:28:16.000 They get worried, and they should, by the way, they might have, you know, difficulty standing for hours on end.

00:28:21.000 So early voting is more secure.

00:28:23.000 It gives people peace of mind.

00:28:25.000 And basically what ended up happening, especially in Sun City and Gilbert and Scottsdale, where there is a significant 65-plus population that is, you know, very much, you know, Kerry Lake's backbone is that all of a sudden people were pulling into the parking lot and the lines were out the door.

00:28:44.000 And I think it's because they knew that we were going to try to show up on election day and overwhelm the system.

00:28:52.000 And one out of five of precincts, one out of five of precincts completely and totally went down.

00:29:00.000 But here's the good news, everybody, is that we did our job in Arizona Congressional District 1.

00:29:05.000 David Schweikert has won, which means that we are probably almost certainly going to take the House of Representatives.

00:29:10.000 That's awesome news, everybody, that that was a little bit in jeopardy like the last couple of days.

00:29:15.000 There's all these media narratives.

00:29:17.000 But Arizona won.

00:29:18.000 Now, if you really want to try to get me confused and just look at the data and just have me just kind of just shrug my shoulders and I'm waiting for an explanation, how is it that David Schweikert, who definitely received a lot of negative press in the last couple of years, is beating Kerry Lake in Scottsdale?

00:29:39.000 So, Andrew, I do want to try to broaden this a little bit and talk about that there seems to be in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada that a late break, and the exit polls show this, and even conservatives show there was a late break of independence away from Republicans.

00:30:05.000 We thought it would be the opposite.

00:30:07.000 My working theory is that there was a lot of ballot harvesting.

00:30:11.000 There was the use of mail and voting.

00:30:13.000 There was all this stuff, this infrastructure that COVID brought that we didn't use at all.

00:30:19.000 However, Andrew, I do want to explore this idea that in my personal opinion, I think Democrats were micro-targeting messaging about abortion, about things being too extreme, about the extreme social policy.

00:30:33.000 And I think they saw in early October, I think they kind of smelled blood in the water.

00:30:39.000 And we know we were outspent.

00:30:41.000 In fact, Kerry Lake was outspent.

00:30:42.000 Blake Masters is outspent.

00:30:43.000 Adam Laxalt was outspoken.

00:30:45.000 Herschel Walker was outspent.

00:30:46.000 We were outspent two to one to three to one.

00:30:48.000 And that's not going to change.

00:30:50.000 Now, a lot of money went to Donald Trump's PAC, right?

00:30:52.000 And Donald Trump has $100 million in his super PAC that was not spent on this election.

00:30:57.000 I think he spent like $3 million, right?

00:31:00.000 So that's $100 million that might have been in this election that was not spent.

00:31:06.000 But there was a lot of, you know, question, this cycle of why are we getting outspent so much money?

00:31:11.000 Well, the issue with being the party of the muscular class and also not having the unions is you're going to have a massive financial deficit.

00:31:19.000 So we get the muscular class, but we don't even get the union support because of it.

00:31:22.000 The Democrats still get supported by AFSCAMI and SCIU and the oligarchs.

00:31:27.000 Andrew, do you think there might have been some messaging losses or do you think it was all machinery?

00:31:34.000 What are your thoughts?

00:31:36.000 Yeah, I put out a tweet on this actually that went kind of viral.

00:31:40.000 I think that we won on the whole on messaging.

00:31:44.000 I really do.

00:31:45.000 I think inflation, crime, the border, a lot of these culture war issues that we feel so passionate about, the trans issue.

00:31:54.000 I absolutely think we won on schools, school boards.

00:31:57.000 We had some big wins across the country at a local level.

00:32:01.000 But, you know, I was trying to tell people this earlier.

00:32:05.000 People kind of didn't take it seriously.

00:32:06.000 So maybe I didn't zero in on it enough.

00:32:08.000 But I will tell you, I've heard countless times from friends of my wife, for example, that they were convinced that Republicans wanted to criminalize miscarriages and they wanted to criminalize ectopic pregnancies and throw women in jail for such things.

00:32:27.000 Now, when we look at what happened with young single women, they apparently had the largest lurch left in a generation, which leads me to believe that the abortion issue certainly had a massive impact.

00:32:43.000 And now, I think a lot of people, you know, we think like four out of four Republican voters.

00:32:48.000 I mean, we are going to show up.

00:32:49.000 We are going to vote.

00:32:50.000 We're going to vote down the line.

00:32:52.000 But not everybody's like that.

00:32:54.000 We've got to put ourselves in the position of low agency voters.

00:32:57.000 Those people that may come out that, you know, it's funny, on election day, I was getting, I've caught an Uber to the studio and I sat in the car.

00:33:06.000 The guy was like, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to go.

00:33:08.000 I don't know.

00:33:09.000 I got stuff to do.

00:33:10.000 Yep.

00:33:10.000 That's the kind of people that we need to talk to.

00:33:12.000 I convinced that guy to go out and vote for Kerry Lake, but he had to like figure it out and his time and all that.

00:33:18.000 I mean, who knows if he actually did, right?

00:33:19.000 But he, he, you know, in the process of one car ride, I convinced that guy.

00:33:23.000 But that's, that's a lot of the electorate.

00:33:26.000 And the Democrats have, have come, uh, have come to grips with that and they, they've gotten really into it.

00:33:30.000 So I think abortion was big.

00:33:32.000 And I think, you know, if you look back at all the messaging about how Republicans are fascist, they're anti-democracy, democracy, democracy's on the ballot.

00:33:41.000 I mean, they were all singing from that same song sheet.

00:33:44.000 Obama.

00:33:45.000 What was the Republican message?

00:33:46.000 I mean, I think, you know, Tucker, Bannon, our program, I think we were developing a really good message of parents' rights and return to normalcy and lower gas prices.

00:33:56.000 And, but I don't think Republican candidates were kind of singing off that song sheet.

00:34:00.000 You know who I think did?

00:34:01.000 I think Ron Johnson did.

00:34:03.000 I think Jason Dance did.

00:34:05.000 Yeah, Lee Zeldin, who actually got us the House of Representatives, he did.

00:34:10.000 Crime, crime, crime, sanity, sanity, sanity.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, I mean, it's...

00:34:14.000 So, but I mean, look, I could say this just from my wife's friend circle and from many others.

00:34:19.000 I mean, I could, we kind of went through the list.

00:34:22.000 We know of at least 50 to 60 young women that do not like Democrats that voted Democrat this cycle because of what they call pro-life extremism.

00:34:30.000 And we warned about this because of Lindsey Graham's sabotage campaign where Lindsey Graham comes out of left field and starts talking about a federal abortion ban, giving them the perfect little soundbite that this is not a state's issue, but this is a federal issue.

00:34:45.000 I believe at my core, and no one will be able to convince me otherwise, that Lindsey Graham was trying to sabotage the candidacy of Blake Masters and many other people.

00:34:57.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:59.000 Email me your thoughts as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:02.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:35:03.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 14, 2022

Building a New Republican Machine

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