The Charlie Kirk Show - Building the Parallel Economy with Michael Seifert, Donald Trump Jr., and John Solomon

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Public Square.

00:00:03.000 What are they?

00:00:03.000 What are they trying to accomplish?

00:00:04.000 Where they are going public, and Michael Seifert walks us through the attempt to build a parallel economy.

00:00:09.000 I'm rooting for them.

00:00:10.000 That's for sure.

00:00:11.000 And then Don Jr. joins us to update us about his fight with PNC.

00:00:16.000 And then John Solomon is very bullish on this current whistleblower investigation against Joe Biden.

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00:00:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:21.000 We need to build a parallel economy.

00:01:24.000 We've talked about that for quite some time.

00:01:26.000 Need to build a parallel economy.

00:01:27.000 Need to be the parallel economy.

00:01:29.000 Build a parallel economy.

00:01:30.000 But there is one company that is actually doing it, and they have an extraordinarily exciting announcement.

00:01:37.000 And joining us now is a friend of mine, someone who's a great American patriot, a visionary entrepreneur, Michael Seifert.

00:01:44.000 And he is behind Public Square that has a very big announcement.

00:01:49.000 Michael, welcome to the program.

00:01:50.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.

00:01:51.000 Good to see you.

00:01:52.000 Michael, share the good news with our audience and walk us through what is Public Square and what to you, what do you hope to achieve?

00:01:58.000 Well, thanks for asking.

00:02:00.000 First of all, we have created the largest network of patriotic businesses and consumers the country has ever seen.

00:02:06.000 We were hungry for a parallel economy.

00:02:08.000 We were tired of just complaining about it.

00:02:09.000 So we actually created one.

00:02:11.000 And today, less than eight months after our national launch, we are the largest network with hundreds of thousands of active member consumers and tens of thousands of businesses that are all aligned in their values so that there's trust as a part of every single transaction.

00:02:25.000 This week, we had a major announcement.

00:02:27.000 We are going public.

00:02:29.000 We are accompanied by the people, for the people, and soon we get to be owned by we the people.

00:02:35.000 And so there's a great company, a SPAC, that's currently public called CLBR that is taking us public.

00:02:40.000 It's a fantastic team that's like-minded in our values.

00:02:43.000 And we're really looking forward to this because we've been a company that's been so grassroots built.

00:02:47.000 It's been we the people that have built this.

00:02:49.000 It's the only way that it's worked to date.

00:02:50.000 We were a bunch of average people that just cared enough to do something.

00:02:54.000 And now this company gets to be owned by average Americans that just want to support companies that do not hate them, that will help put purpose behind their purchase so that they can actually change the country with the power of their wallet.

00:03:06.000 That's the best testimony we ever hear, Charlie, is when people say, I feel like I'm changing the country by purchasing a cup of coffee differently from this app where I get incentive to spend money in alignment with our values.

00:03:16.000 So it's been a wild ride so far, but I can confidently tell you we are just getting started.

00:03:22.000 And so what are the values of public square then?

00:03:24.000 Because I mean, I can go example after example.

00:03:27.000 In fact, let's play one here because instead of you telling me your values, let's just tell you, let's just see what they are not.

00:03:34.000 Where's the Hershey chocolate?

00:03:36.000 Have you seen this Hershey chocolate thing?

00:03:37.000 Yeah.

00:03:38.000 And it's absurd.

00:03:39.000 It's really unbelievable.

00:03:40.000 We have it.

00:03:41.000 We have Cut 111.

00:03:42.000 Okay. 0.52

00:03:42.000 So I don't think Public Square will ever have men masquerading as women promoting their products. 0.52

00:03:49.000 Play Cut 111.

00:03:51.000 My name is Paige Onstone.

00:03:52.000 I'm the executive director of Wisdom to Action.

00:03:55.000 We can create a world where everyone is able to live in public space as their honest and authentic selves.

00:04:02.000 See the woman changing how we see the future at Hershey's Canada.

00:04:06.000 So that's one of probably a million examples of why you're doing what you're doing. 0.99

00:04:10.000 Why is Hershey Chocolate having people that are under a transgender delusion promoting their sugary chocolate? 1.00

00:04:18.000 I'm confused. 1.00

00:04:18.000 Because they're scared. 1.00

00:04:20.000 They are scared of the woke mob coming after them.

00:04:23.000 They don't actually believe that.

00:04:24.000 The reality is the CEO of Hershey's, there is not one single iota of his being that actually believes that that commercial speaks to any semblance of reality.

00:04:34.000 The only reason they're doing it is because there was some DEI officer at some rank of the company that said that this will help them win amongst a certain demographic that will roast them unless they puppet the message of the regime of the day.

00:04:47.000 And so the reality is what companies like Hershey's need to learn is that the last emerging market in the world and a major, major market is the 100 million plus American consumers that are traditionally valued.

00:05:01.000 They love this country.

00:05:02.000 They love their freedoms.

00:05:03.000 They believe in biological gender, the reality that there is man and there is woman.

00:05:09.000 They believe in truth and they're tired of being lectured by companies when they're just trying to buy a chocolate bar.

00:05:14.000 And so what we've done is we've provided a marketplace where sanity wins.

00:05:18.000 And in the process, not only is it very lucrative for the business owners because they're seeing their profits burst from consumers that are values driven to go there, it's also really liberating because there's a marketplace that embraces reality, embraces truth.

00:05:32.000 And we're not trying to pick fights with anyone.

00:05:33.000 We are simply running in this lane.

00:05:35.000 They're the ones that picked this battles.

00:05:37.000 They kept telling us for years, go build your own, go build your own.

00:05:40.000 So we did.

00:05:41.000 We built our own and it's thriving.

00:05:43.000 There are multiple chocolate companies on the app, actually.

00:05:45.000 And this week has been a very good week.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, I see a couple of them on the front page of the website.

00:05:49.000 And the app, just so everyone knows, it's Public SQ.

00:05:52.000 Is that how you find it in the app store?

00:05:53.000 Is that right?

00:05:55.000 Yep, absolutely.

00:05:56.000 You can search Public SQ.

00:05:57.000 If you search Public Square, we'll still show up first, or you can head to publicsq.com to get started.

00:06:01.000 You'll also see our five values on that page.

00:06:04.000 And so, you know, we'll you'll see right underneath our values, it says pro-life, pro-family, pro-freedom.

00:06:09.000 Our mission guides everything we do.

00:06:11.000 And businesses you find on public square are values aligned by design.

00:06:13.000 And so we have five values.

00:06:14.000 We're united in our commitment to freedom and truth.

00:06:17.000 That's what makes us Americans.

00:06:18.000 Truth, truth, objective truth.

00:06:21.000 Number two, we will always protect the family unit and celebrate the sanctity of every life.

00:06:25.000 Number three, we believe small businesses and the communities who support them are the backbone of our economy.

00:06:29.000 We are fundamentally anti-globalist.

00:06:32.000 We believe in a local economy.

00:06:33.000 We believe in an American economy.

00:06:35.000 Number four, we believe in the greatness of this nation and will always fight to defend it.

00:06:39.000 We are nationalists at our core in the sense that we believe that the United States should take care of itself before it worries about the world because the best way we can actually serve the world is by serving as an example of what a healthy nation state looks like.

00:06:52.000 And then finally, number five, our constitution is non-negotiable.

00:06:55.000 Government is not the source of our rights, so it cannot take them away.

00:06:58.000 And so when businesses sign up, they see those values and they say that they're going to respect those values.

00:07:03.000 They're not going to spend time, money, or resource antagonistically against them.

00:07:06.000 And they're off to the races connected to hundreds of thousands of consumers that are excited to put purpose behind them.

00:07:11.000 I think you're just touching the surface here because what you're also trying to do, Michael, and build this out, we have a couple minutes, is you're trying to change the incentive structure, which I think is the most brilliant part of what you're doing.

00:07:23.000 And it's not as clear on the surface because right now there is an incentive to be woke.

00:07:31.000 The incentive is that you don't have these crazy people shouting at you and calling for your resignation.

00:07:35.000 We call it the woke excise tax. 0.66

00:07:37.000 You know, Goldman, Hershey, BlackRock, they would much rather just pay $10 to $15 million to some trans nonprofit. 0.87

00:07:48.000 And then they feel as if that's just their penance that protects them.

00:07:52.000 What you're trying to say, though, is no, actually, we want to make an incentive.

00:07:56.000 We want to create a reward if you are pro-American.

00:08:01.000 That's absolutely right.

00:08:02.000 We're actually trying to shift who wins in our economy because for far too long, the DEI ESG crowd has won at the massive corporate level.

00:08:10.000 And it was really sad during COVID.

00:08:12.000 There was a great example of this.

00:08:14.000 You saw some major corporate entities like Walmart and Amazon preaching about the need for further lockdowns.

00:08:21.000 Meanwhile, the small businesses that couldn't lobby the government were locked down and they had no say in the matter and they were deemed non-essential.

00:08:29.000 And so we're actually trying to rewrite the script here.

00:08:31.000 We're trying to tell people a loud and clear message.

00:08:35.000 Small businesses in this country that love their freedoms, love the liberties and the rights endowed by our creator, these unalienable rights, these businesses will actually win in the long run.

00:08:44.000 We ran a market survey, Charlie, in 27 states when we got started.

00:08:48.000 When I originally had this idea, we asked a few hundred consumers from around the country just to kind of test our idea.

00:08:54.000 We said, how many of you, all of which were conservative, but they all came from different socioeconomic backgrounds, how many of you would drive 10 minutes farther or spend 10% more if you knew that every dollar you were spending was in alignment with your values?

00:09:06.000 98% of our consumers said yes.

00:09:09.000 And so the beauty of what happens here, amen, amen.

00:09:12.000 The beauty of what happens here, Charlie, is that not only will the right businesses win, the ones that have stood up for the freedoms of each and every consumer and has refused to infringe upon the rights or the values of literally 100 plus million Americans that are consumer age.

00:09:28.000 Not only is that the case, but also we will send a very clear message to the Starbucks of the world, the targets of the world, the Walmarts of the world, the Disneys of the world, the Amazons of the world, the PayPals of the world, the PNC banks of the world that we're done.

00:09:40.000 Yep.

00:09:41.000 Done with their system.

00:09:42.000 We're unsubscribing.

00:09:43.000 And we found a parallel economy that will embrace us for who we are.

00:09:46.000 Their power has been that we do not have an escape pod.

00:09:51.000 We have not been able to disconnect from their sources.

00:09:55.000 They're able to be awful to us because like, oh, where are you going to go?

00:10:00.000 Like, actually, you know, we'll start to be able to go to Rumble.

00:10:03.000 We'll go to public square.

00:10:04.000 Like, we'll start new companies.

00:10:06.000 And yeah, you know, it's not going to be the same size as Coca-Cola out of the gate.

00:10:10.000 It's not going to be the same size as Goldman.

00:10:12.000 But honestly, the advantage will be in the agility that we don't have to have the corporate overhead of Coca-Cola.

00:10:20.000 I'm telling you, it's going to be bad for business to be woke.

00:10:24.000 It already is.

00:10:25.000 And these companies, it's going to start to affect their bottom line.

00:10:29.000 I can't wait for it.

00:10:29.000 Companies that have strong values are going to thrive in this upcoming economic catastrophic recession.

00:10:39.000 Look, it is time to consider a rollover of that 401k into an IRA.

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00:11:37.000 So Michael, a question we got, Michael from Public Square, by the way, download the app.

00:11:41.000 Charlie, can you ask Michael, what sectors or industries do you think are most missing from the parallel economy?

00:11:47.000 How can we fill in the gaps?

00:11:48.000 That's a really good question, Michael.

00:11:49.000 What are your thoughts?

00:11:50.000 That is a fantastic question.

00:11:51.000 It's actually something that we've recently polled our consumers.

00:11:54.000 We've asked them hundreds of thousands of them: what's the hardest thing to find?

00:11:58.000 Where do you feel like there's the greatest lack?

00:12:00.000 Some of the common answers are financial services.

00:12:02.000 So, for example, Visa, MasterCard, Discover, those are sort of the big three.

00:12:06.000 And it's very difficult to have alternatives to them.

00:12:09.000 Other industries that are difficult to find alternatives to are things like insurance.

00:12:14.000 We have a lot of people asking for alternatives to PayPal, and there are some that are fast emerging.

00:12:19.000 The good news is, is that there are not no answers to these questions.

00:12:24.000 There are not zero alternatives.

00:12:26.000 Some of them are actually being built currently, or they're a little bit smaller.

00:12:30.000 So sometimes they take a little bit of inconvenience in order to get them up to speed.

00:12:34.000 But I would cite Rumble as a great case study of what would happen when we actually support a company from its early stages that is trying to be an alternative to one of the big boys.

00:12:44.000 You'll find that over time, as more and more people adopt and they put up with maybe a little bit less features than YouTube, you're going to find that the platform today, Rumble, can do everything YouTube can do.

00:12:55.000 And the audience there is exploding.

00:12:57.000 So I would tell people, especially whoever asked this question, it's a great one.

00:13:02.000 Don't let any sort of lack stop you from starting somewhere.

00:13:05.000 People ask all the time, well, we have iPhones and Google phones.

00:13:08.000 And so what's the point?

00:13:09.000 Like they already just have too much of us.

00:13:11.000 Like it just, it's not going to ever work to have this parallel economy.

00:13:14.000 Our answer is a simple rebuttal.

00:13:16.000 If you don't start somewhere, we'll never take over Apple.

00:13:20.000 But if you start somewhere, who knows what might happen?

00:13:23.000 Because you're going to continue to consolidate funds and capital into this parallel economy that will grow on itself.

00:13:28.000 It'll compound.

00:13:29.000 So you can actually help create a new iPhone one day by purchasing a cup of coffee from someone that doesn't hate you, from buying a new pair of clothes from someone that doesn't hate you, by using Rumble instead of YouTube.

00:13:41.000 And you'll find that over time, this is a long game.

00:13:43.000 The left understands that, by the way, they know it's a long game and they've been planning for this for 30, 40 years.

00:13:48.000 We have to have that same mentality.

00:13:49.000 We have to have the long game in mind.

00:13:50.000 I'm doing this for my daughter, Charlie.

00:13:52.000 I know you're doing it for your kid too, right?

00:13:55.000 It's the reason we're doing this.

00:13:56.000 It's why we have the long game longevity focused fight in mind.

00:14:01.000 I will say confidently that I believe 20, 30 years from now, there will be massive, massive companies doing phenomenal work with the principles of American enterprise at the core of their being because regular patriots today in 2023 stepped up and for their daily consumer purchases to the best of their ability spent money in alignment with their values.

00:14:23.000 Yeah.

00:14:23.000 And they, this is what they fear the most.

00:14:25.000 This is why they're trying to take out Rumble.

00:14:27.000 Rumble is going to succeed and Rumble has successfully de-specced.

00:14:32.000 So tell us, Michael, are you going to get actually into consumer products too?

00:14:36.000 I mean, what is the goal?

00:14:37.000 What can you share publicly about that?

00:14:39.000 That's a great question, Charlie.

00:14:40.000 Glad you asked.

00:14:41.000 I will tell you that the long-term vision of Public Square is that the app would exist as an ecosystem where businesses and consumers could gather together.

00:14:48.000 Majority of the businesses on the platform will actually give you discounts for shopping there.

00:14:52.000 So you can receive incentive for spending money in alignment with your values.

00:14:55.000 We then use our search bar to understand what are consumers looking for?

00:15:00.000 What are the products that are most popular to them?

00:15:02.000 We then use that data.

00:15:03.000 We go out to the market and we figure out where there are no good alternatives, and then we actually create our own alternatives and sell them back into the market so that we have alternatives in the spaces where they don't currently exist.

00:15:15.000 And we're able to do it with better margins than our competitors because we already have the customer acquisition channel built into the model.

00:15:21.000 So, yes, the short answer is absolutely consumer products are in our future.

00:15:27.000 And to the person's question from earlier, we are paying close attention to where there are no alternatives for how we might be able to fulfill those needs.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, there, and there's some kind of openings that I think people would be surprised where there's been some stealthy monopolization activity where all of a sudden you look around, you're like, wow, every company at my choice that I have to choose from, it's like four companies, and they all are against my values.

00:15:52.000 And it could be anything from, I don't know, like, toothpaste to just stuff like that, where you wouldn't really think, like, wow, okay, Gillette, which you know is obviously into razors and also shaving green.

00:16:04.000 By the way, be careful what kind of shaving cream you use.

00:16:06.000 That's a separate issue because of all the chemicals and garbage. 1.00

00:16:09.000 But they are some of the big trans push, like Gillette is huge in the trans thing. 0.99

00:16:14.000 And obviously, they're a multi-multi-multi-billion dollar enterprise.

00:16:18.000 So, in closing here, Michael, remind our audience: what is the public ticker symbol?

00:16:23.000 And then, how can they individually download the app again?

00:16:26.000 Yeah, thanks for asking, Charlie.

00:16:27.000 The public ticker symbol of the SPAC is CLBR, Columbia Acquisition Corp.

00:16:32.000 The best way to get started on your public square journey is publicsq.com.

00:16:36.000 You can there find information about our values, where we're from.

00:16:40.000 You can create an account, you can sign up.

00:16:41.000 You can also direct to the app store or to Google Play if you'd prefer to use it in the mobile environment.

00:16:45.000 PublicSQ.com, best place to get started.

00:16:48.000 Ticket symbol CLBR.

00:16:49.000 Charlie, thank you so much for having me on.

00:16:51.000 You bet, Michael, keep fighting, and we have to build this parallel economy.

00:16:53.000 Thank you.

00:16:54.000 Amen.

00:16:54.000 Thank you.

00:16:58.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:17:59.000 Let's go to cut 74: the new parents' Bill of Rights being introduced in the House of Representatives, play cut 74.

00:18:08.000 This bill by Julia Letlow kind of sits on five main pillars: the right to know what's being taught in the school, and for you to be able to see the reading materials, right?

00:18:22.000 The right to be heard, the right to ski the school budgets and how they spend their money, the right to protect your child's privacy, and the right to be updated on any violent activity at the school.

00:18:38.000 How is any of this even remotely controversial?

00:18:43.000 The right to know what's being taught in your local public school, the right to be heard, the right to see school budgets, the right to protect your child's privacy, and the right to be updated on violent activity.

00:18:56.000 And yet, there will be Democrats that vote against this.

00:19:01.000 There will be Democrats that vote against this.

00:19:03.000 This shows the Parents' Party has strength, and we need to lean in on that.

00:19:08.000 That this idea of the Parents' Party can transcend demographic lines, income lines, political lines.

00:19:17.000 Parents do not want to have their kids go to crummy schools.

00:19:21.000 It happens time and time and time again.

00:19:25.000 And so the Republicans in Congress are trying to put forward a very focused piece of legislation saying we want transparency in curriculum.

00:19:37.000 We want to be able to be heard and have our voice actually be platformed.

00:19:43.000 We want to be able to see your school's budgets.

00:19:47.000 And we want to protect your child's privacy and they want to be updated on violent activity.

00:19:52.000 Now, typically, I'm not a big fan of more federal regulation and all that, but isn't it interesting that with all of the Department of Education activity they have, that this is still not required out of government-funded taxpayer schools, the ability to be able to know what your kids are actually being taught.

00:20:13.000 Do you understand how difficult it is to get just transparent answers from local school districts on whether or not there is pornography in eight-year-olds' curriculum, whether or not they're learning critical race theory, whether or not they're learning elements of critical race theory?

00:20:30.000 And so the Republicans in Congress are fulfilling an election mandate.

00:20:34.000 And I believe in 2024, crime should be right up there.

00:20:39.000 But leaning in on a parent's right to be informed about what's happening in their local school is a political winner, and it is especially a political winner.

00:20:50.000 I believe in the Hispanic and the black community.

00:20:53.000 Upper-middle-class whites seem somewhat interested in this topic, but I'll be honest, just being in Chicago, the North Shore, Highland Park, they don't seem that fired up about what's going on in their schools.

00:21:04.000 They just seem to be perfectly fine with it.

00:21:06.000 But I do not believe, and I refuse to believe, that working-class Hispanics across the country will be thrilled to learn that their seven-year-olds are being taught that men can become pregnant.

00:21:22.000 That is not a popular proposition in lower-income minority neighborhoods.

00:21:29.000 And so, in some ways, this idea of education, which always used to be a Democrat issue, education always used to be an issue that Democrats would poll double digits better than Republicans.

00:21:41.000 This is a particular moment in time where Republicans can seize this because these schools have become grooming and indoctrination factories, where the most sinister ideas you can imagine are being put through there.

00:21:54.000 I mean, one example here in Arizona, I was just reading this the other day, it's unbelievable, where you have this Scott Menzel, who is the Scottsdale Unified School District superintendent, where he said, This is a quote.

00:22:08.000 He said, the white race is problematic and meritocracy is a lie.

00:22:15.000 That is a direct quote. 0.99

00:22:16.000 He is the superintendent of schools in Scottsdale, saying that the white race is problematic. 0.87

00:22:26.000 The idea of working hard, merit, is a lie. 0.92

00:22:31.000 Man, these are such destructive ideas.

00:22:34.000 And he's not just some fringe teacher.

00:22:36.000 He's not just some sort of school counselor.

00:22:39.000 He's the superintendent of the entire Scottsdale Unified School District.

00:22:46.000 That's very troubling, isn't it?

00:22:50.000 And it's not just isolated in that regard.

00:22:52.000 We're seeing these ideas again grow and strengthen like tumors.

00:22:58.000 And they have to be removed.

00:22:59.000 And the parents are the last and the best hope to be able to address it.

00:23:03.000 And the Democrats and the left, they are so unbelievably nervous about it.

00:23:07.000 They're nervous that this might actually be a pivot issue.

00:23:13.000 Now, you may be very frustrated with national politics, but you can get engaged in local communities and school boards.

00:23:20.000 Do not allow your community to have schools that evolve and transform into Marxist boot camps.

00:23:27.000 You still have that power.

00:23:30.000 You still are able to do that.

00:23:34.000 And what the Democrats have been able to do for the last 20 or 30 years is intimidate parents.

00:23:44.000 And just the amount of evidence that we could play on this program of one after the other after the other of schools that have gone so far off, they're off track.

00:23:54.000 But parents can successfully reclaim that.

00:24:00.000 But you have to have the right attitude.

00:24:03.000 Doesn't matter what names they throw at you.

00:24:04.000 It doesn't matter if they try to intimidate you or smear you or slander you.

00:24:08.000 All those things they are going to do.

00:24:13.000 Joining us now is Donald Trump Jr., who's experienced his own version of cancel culture, the cancel and then uncancellation.

00:24:19.000 Don, welcome back to the program.

00:24:22.000 Good to be with you, Charlie.

00:24:23.000 How's it going, man?

00:24:24.000 It's going great.

00:24:24.000 Great speech at CPAC.

00:24:26.000 Tell us about your situation in the last day and a half with PNC Bank.

00:24:31.000 It's very interesting.

00:24:33.000 Oh, it's crazy.

00:24:34.000 I mean, again, and if you think, you know, a guy like me with a pretty big platform and decent credit, we have MXM News.

00:24:41.000 I know I've talked about it on your show that me, some friends, we put together a news aggregation app.

00:24:47.000 We were sick of people not seeing, you know, important stories, like Hunter Biden laptop, Wuhan Lab Week as a possible theory for the few years.

00:24:56.000 And so we put together an app that gathers news from all over the place.

00:24:59.000 We have the New York Times down there.

00:25:00.000 We have left leading stations.

00:25:01.000 We have right leading stations, but we see it all.

00:25:03.000 And we had an account.

00:25:04.000 Our operating account was at PNC Bank.

00:25:08.000 And Taylor Butterwich, who you know and his partner in the deal, he goes to check our operating account one morning and there's nothing in it.

00:25:14.000 And he calls me like, we got bad news.

00:25:15.000 I think we got hacked and they stole $750,000 out of the operating account.

00:25:19.000 And he calls the bank immediately after speaking to me.

00:25:22.000 And, oh, yeah, sorry, there's a FedEx on the way to you with a cashier's check for the entire amount.

00:25:28.000 We decided to close out your account.

00:25:30.000 No, no reasoning.

00:25:33.000 Didn't even bother to give us a phone call.

00:25:34.000 And this is PNC Bank.

00:25:35.000 I mean, this is a major national bank.

00:25:38.000 Just decided that, I guess, someone who's willing to show people both sides of the news, not even writing our own, that that was enough.

00:25:44.000 So, you know, I got pretty upset about that.

00:25:47.000 You know, got on social and a bunch of people from the MAGA movement and big conservatives started tweeting about it.

00:25:53.000 You were one of those, Charlie.

00:25:54.000 So I appreciate that because we have to highlight the attack that is going on on conservatives on a daily basis.

00:26:01.000 They don't think we should be able to bank.

00:26:03.000 There is a social credit system that's happening right now.

00:26:06.000 And if we're going to wake up one day, if we don't get active and involved and push back and find out that, hey, we'll be locked out of your Tesla because they didn't like what you said and they're going to deem you parked for the next week or two weeks or months or ever.

00:26:20.000 And this wasn't a phenomenon while Trump was in office.

00:26:24.000 It continues to happen.

00:26:25.000 And again, if they can do it to a guy like me, who can't they do it to?

00:26:29.000 And more importantly, who won't they do it to?

00:26:31.000 I mean, it's not like they're naive that I don't have a platform to actually fight back or numerous.

00:26:36.000 But the average American, a bank doesn't like that you actually also distributed some conservative content from, say, Breitbart News or the Charlie Kirk show.

00:26:47.000 That was deemed enough to be like, we just, we wouldn't even think about doing business with you from TNC Bank.

00:26:52.000 That's a real problem in America right now.

00:26:54.000 So, you know, so much of what I've been talking about, even for the last year, it worked out so interestingly because my good friend Michael Seifert, who's taking Public Square, his company that aggregates all of the businesses that are willing to sign on and say, hey, we believe in free speech.

00:27:07.000 We believe in these conservative values.

00:27:09.000 Like literally the week he's taking Public Square public was the week that PNC Bank tried canceling me and my news app to be able to show both sides of the story.

00:27:20.000 And it's why we have to be engaged in that battlefield, Charlie.

00:27:24.000 We have to be voting with our wallets.

00:27:26.000 We have to take the time, you know, download the Public Square app.

00:27:30.000 Find a business that shares your values.

00:27:32.000 You know, the coffee shop, the law firm, the doctor, whatever it is.

00:27:37.000 Give them your money because if you don't, these other people will function with reckless abandon.

00:27:42.000 They will cancel you at all costs.

00:27:44.000 And it's only going to get worse if we don't act now and support those who believe what we believe.

00:27:49.000 Well said.

00:27:50.000 You're at CPAC.

00:27:50.000 Don, I know you got to run.

00:27:51.000 Thanks for taking the time.

00:27:52.000 We're behind you.

00:27:53.000 Thank you, Don.

00:27:54.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:27:57.000 I want to tell you guys about COVID tax relief.

00:28:00.000 COVID Tax Relief is an amazing service that exists for you because of Washington, D.C.'s addiction to overspending.

00:28:09.000 Again, I'm not a fan that this money exists or that's out there or that it's available, but as they say, it is what it is.

00:28:15.000 Look, COVIDTaxRelief.org got a small retail business, almost $80,000.

00:28:20.000 COVIDTaxRelief.org got a manufacturing business, nearly $250,000.

00:28:24.000 COVIDTaxRelief.org got a large distribution business, almost $900,000.

00:28:29.000 If you run a business, church or nonprofit, and paid your employees through all or part of the pandemic, you could qualify for up to $26,000 per employee through the Government Cares Act.

00:28:39.000 COVIDtaxRelief.org receives a low commission, very reasonable, only after you receive the money.

00:28:43.000 So go to covidtaxrelief.org.

00:28:45.000 That is covidtaxrelief.org, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:28:49.000 Check it out right now, covidtaxrelief.org.

00:28:55.000 Let's play a piece of tape here.

00:28:57.000 Play cut six, Joe Biden on the pandemic.

00:29:00.000 Play cut six.

00:29:01.000 So I think things are a little out of whack, and I don't blame people for being down.

00:29:05.000 You know, when you had a year, two years of the pandemic, kids out of school, the mental health problems in the country are seriously increased, especially among young people.

00:29:17.000 Inflation is still higher than it should be.

00:29:20.000 And, you know, everything from gasoline prices to a war going on in Ukraine.

00:29:26.000 I mean, so I can't think of a time when there's been greater uncertainty.

00:29:31.000 We're better off than virtually any other major nation in the world economically.

00:29:35.000 But it's understandable why people are just down.

00:29:39.000 There's a way to edit that video, Ryan, where it says Joe Biden brags about his accomplishments and he just goes to the whole thing.

00:29:46.000 Inflation is still higher, it should be, gasoline prices, war in Ukraine, mental health problems.

00:29:52.000 Yeah, it's on you, pal.

00:29:53.000 You've been in office now for over two years.

00:29:56.000 You've hit the two-year mark.

00:29:59.000 It's not anybody else's fault but your own.

00:30:02.000 But you know what Joe Biden should be worried about?

00:30:04.000 And he probably is?

00:30:06.000 The fact that a key Hunter Biden associate is cooperating with Congress.

00:30:10.000 John Salomon has a story.

00:30:11.000 John, welcome to the program.

00:30:12.000 Congratulations on the big scoop.

00:30:14.000 Thank you.

00:30:15.000 Good to be with you, Charlie.

00:30:16.000 Congratulations on your great show as well.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, Eric Schwerin, very important.

00:30:19.000 He's the guy between Joe Biden and Hunter Biden on all the business deals starting back in 2010.

00:30:25.000 He started cooperating with James Comer last week.

00:30:27.000 A very big development in the investigation.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, so just we have a couple minutes.

00:30:32.000 You know, John, I know it's kind of a circus over there.

00:30:34.000 I love it.

00:30:35.000 Just walk through some of the details of the significance of this.

00:30:38.000 Please continue.

00:30:40.000 Yeah.

00:30:41.000 Yeah, it's really important.

00:30:42.000 So in 2010, when Joe Biden wants to start thinking about how can I make money in the private sector while I'm still vice president, he has a conversation with Schwerwin.

00:30:50.000 Schwerwin emails Hunter Biden.

00:30:52.000 Got to start thinking about your dad's earning potential.

00:30:54.000 That's what sets in motion all those foreign deals, China, Russia, Ukraine, that conversation.

00:31:00.000 Now, for the longest time, the Biden said we never commingled our finances.

00:31:03.000 There's an email in 2010 where Eric Schwerwin says, hey, I did help you do your dad's taxes.

00:31:08.000 He owes you money.

00:31:10.000 I'm going to deposit his Delaware check into your bank account.

00:31:13.000 Commingled finances.

00:31:14.000 We were told that was a conspiracy theory.

00:31:16.000 We know that to be true.

00:31:17.000 In 2015, as the effort by the Biden family accelerated to go get China money, Eric Schwerwin is in the middle of Hunter Biden and CEFC, the China energy company that ultimately gave the Biden family $5 million in an interest-free, forgivable loan, and a very large rock, a diamond that we all would know about now.

00:31:36.000 Eric Schwerin was in the middle of that.

00:31:38.000 He can connect the dots on most of the major foreign business deals that Hunter and Joe Biden were involved in.

00:31:45.000 This is huge.

00:31:46.000 And really, this is less about Hunter and it really is about Joe Biden, isn't it?

00:31:51.000 And so, look, I mean, John, exactly what.

00:31:54.000 Can you just give me or the audience any assurance in about a minute and a half that they're not going to mess this up the way Trey Gowdy messed up the Benghazi investigation?

00:32:05.000 Listen, we just had James Comer on the show.

00:32:07.000 He talked exactly how they're going to pursue this.

00:32:09.000 We're going to stay focused on James Comer or on Joe Biden.

00:32:13.000 We're not going to get distracted by all the little circus things that Democrats do.

00:32:17.000 We're not going to be reactive to Democrats.

00:32:19.000 Stay focused on the prize, work our way up the train like a mob prosecutor.

00:32:23.000 Start with the low guys, work up to the top, get the evidence.

00:32:26.000 Don't shoot until you have the evidence.

00:32:28.000 All of that is the key to how you do a great investigation.

00:32:31.000 The greatest investigations in history have been run that way, like the China money one done in the 90s against the Clintons.

00:32:36.000 They're going to do that.

00:32:37.000 I have a lot of confidence right now.

00:32:39.000 The way James Comer is approaching it is the way the most successful congressional investigations in history have been run.

00:32:44.000 We'll have to see if they can deliver, but they're on the right path.

00:32:47.000 John, a minute remaining themes you're seeing at CPAC: energy.

00:32:50.000 You know, how is Nikki Haley being received?

00:32:52.000 What are you seeing in here in one minute remaining?

00:32:55.000 Listen, I think there's so much energy.

00:32:56.000 People realize there's a star-studded lineup from 20-year-olds to 75-year-olds, 78-year-olds.

00:33:02.000 They're excited to go out and talk to people.

00:33:05.000 Everybody here is not talking about pie charts.

00:33:07.000 They're talking about engaging real Americans across this country, having a conversation, having it earlier than normal so that early voters can go out and vote Republican, not Democrat this time.

00:33:17.000 That's a big change with the president.

00:33:19.000 A lot of energy, some of the strongest energy I felt at CPAC in the 30 years that I've covered it.

00:33:24.000 And Rav is the center of all that.

00:33:25.000 John, great program every day.

00:33:27.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:29.000 Honor to be with you, Charlie.

00:33:30.000 Good luck.

00:33:30.000 Have a good day.

00:33:30.000 Thank you.

00:33:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:33.000 Email me your thoughts as always.

00:33:34.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:35.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:40.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 04, 2023

Building the Parallel Economy with Michael Seifert, Donald Trump Jr., and John Solomon

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