The Charlie Kirk Show - Building the Red Wall + Virginia's Last Chance

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:17.000 All right.

00:01:19.000 It's Monday.

00:01:20.000 It's April 20th.

00:01:22.000 Just past tax day.

00:01:23.000 Just occurred to me.

00:01:24.000 I hope I got my taxes done.

00:01:25.000 I think I did.

00:01:26.000 I hope you did.

00:01:27.000 I think we got that done.

00:01:28.000 Anyways, back in Phoenix here at the YRefi Studio.

00:01:32.000 Blake, how are we doing today?

00:01:33.000 Oh, we're doing okay.

00:01:34.000 We're doing okay?

00:01:35.000 Yeah.

00:01:36.000 We got to get people hyped up.

00:01:38.000 That was not.

00:01:39.000 Impressive enough that was not enthusiastic.

00:01:41.000 We're doing okay.

00:01:42.000 You will remember that we left the show on Friday and we were headed on over to the Build the Red Wall event.

00:01:49.000 It was an amazing, successful, energetic event with some of President Trump's, I would say, most enthusiastic supporters in the valley.

00:01:59.000 It was amazing.

00:01:59.000 It was amazing to see them.

00:02:00.000 They're all dressed up, people waving signs, lots of great clips that came from that.

00:02:06.000 And we just want to play a couple of clips just to memorialize it a little bit.

00:02:11.000 Let's start with SOT 6.

00:02:11.000 Here we go.

00:02:13.000 And we will pass the Save America Act to protect our sacred American election.

00:02:20.000 And we will also add into permanent statutes a very simple thing called no men in women's sports. 0.57

00:02:30.000 And no transgender mutilization surgery for your children. 0.74

00:02:35.000 We're putting that in.

00:02:37.000 We're putting that in because I call them best of.

00:02:41.000 Do you know what, best of?

00:02:42.000 Best of Trump.

00:02:43.000 Can you believe it?

00:02:44.000 Best of Trump.

00:02:45.000 So I love that clip because he's focusing on the domestic, right?

00:02:48.000 And it was just, we held the event right after the kind of Iranian peace, tentative peace, which we've seen has been very fragile over the weekend.

00:02:59.000 But he was in good spirits.

00:03:01.000 Even with all of that international news, he was talking about domestic, domestic, domestic.

00:03:07.000 One of my favorite lines here crushing violent crime.

00:03:10.000 Sot 7. 0.87

00:03:12.000 With your support, we will crush violent crime, impose harsh new penalties for repeat offenders, crack down on Marxist prosecutors and rogue judges.

00:03:23.000 The judges are horrible. 0.54

00:03:26.000 Add deadly sanctuary cities in our country and end no cash bail, which really started it all.

00:03:33.000 So, President Trump was in fine form and he was focusing, like I said, on domestic issues, which I think is important.

00:03:39.000 It's noteworthy.

00:03:41.000 I considered that event sort of a recalibration event.

00:03:44.000 I think it's the kickoff in some ways of the midterm run and for all across the country and really setting the tone.

00:03:51.000 But there were some other really noteworthy moments.

00:03:54.000 We had Andy Biggs there, who's going to be running for governor, who is running for governor.

00:03:58.000 In the great state of Arizona.

00:04:00.000 And I will tell you, I think this was the best speech I've ever heard Andy Biggs give.

00:04:05.000 And we've had him recently.

00:04:07.000 We had him on the show recently.

00:04:09.000 He got emotional when he was talking about his wife and what the American dream in Arizona means to him and his wife and what he wants to do for the future.

00:04:17.000 I just thought he was completely spot on.

00:04:20.000 So let's give Andy Biggs his due.

00:04:21.000 SOC 12.

00:04:22.000 We want young Arizonans to be able to start forming their families and getting into homes.

00:04:28.000 When they form families and get into single family homes, it preserves our traditions, our values, our freedoms.

00:04:36.000 That's what we need to do.

00:04:39.000 And I just love that, Blake, because you know this as well as I do.

00:04:42.000 Charlie was so focused on the American family.

00:04:44.000 If he ever ran for office, that was going to be his main central crux of whatever campaign he was going to run because he believed in the power of the American family as the building blocks of a successful society.

00:04:56.000 And it just feels like Andy Biggs has taken that page out of Charlie's playbook, hitting families, hitting affordability of homes, hitting prices, hitting the American dream, kids being able to afford to have families, afford to buy a home.

00:05:10.000 So, I just thought that was a perfect note.

00:05:11.000 I don't know if you have a thought there.

00:05:13.000 It was a very strong speech, a very strong message.

00:05:14.000 I think it's the message we're going to want to keep hitting in the months to come.

00:05:19.000 We know it's going to be hard fought because, among other things, that's the other topic that we have to hit at the top of today.

00:05:24.000 Which is Virginia.

00:05:24.000 Yeah.

00:05:26.000 I don't even know if we need to hit that yet.

00:05:27.000 Well, exactly.

00:05:28.000 I was going to say there was a beautiful moment from Catherine Limbaugh that I would love to play.

00:05:33.000 So, Catherine Limbaugh was somebody that when Charlie was around and friends with Rush, Catherine was always kind of around.

00:05:41.000 She was copied on emails.

00:05:42.000 She's a really phenomenal person.

00:05:44.000 Woman, and she's been so supportive when Rush was alive and since Rush passed and left us all.

00:05:51.000 And she was kind of a surprise guest at this event, and she had powerful words in defense of Erica's leadership, and I just thought it was really touching.

00:05:59.000 Saw 11.

00:06:00.000 I'd like to take a moment to talk about Erica Kirk.

00:06:04.000 Last September, the unimaginable happened.

00:06:08.000 Erica showed incredible grace, strength, Courage and determination to not let anything steal her light.

00:06:20.000 Anyone who criticizes Erica for how she grieves should pause and think for a minute about the humanity of that.

00:06:32.000 Goodness will always outshine the darkness.

00:06:37.000 Charlie knew exactly who he was marrying a strong, smart, beautiful soul inside and out.

00:06:47.000 I know he is immensely proud of Erica and how she is carrying on.

00:06:53.000 Really poignant coming from her.

00:06:55.000 It was, it was.

00:06:56.000 Yeah.

00:06:57.000 And by the way, that clip has gone viral all over social media.

00:07:00.000 People loved it.

00:07:01.000 And by the way, I think we did kind of a back of the napkin just review of the clips from this event and how many times, I mean, it was over 100 million views from this event on X alone.

00:07:13.000 So massive, massive spread.

00:07:15.000 That's the power of these events, really, is that they energize, the coming together.

00:07:20.000 The spread of the clips, the spread of the good vibes, as I call it.

00:07:24.000 And anyway, so we'll end with our kind of review of this event with a clip from Erica herself, Sot 10.

00:07:30.000 There is nowhere else on earth, nowhere else on earth like the United States of America.

00:07:35.000 There is not.

00:07:36.000 And with this powerful combination of freedom, the ability to live your life with your faith openly, and the chance to build a life, nowhere else like it.

00:07:46.000 And nowhere else I would want to be, and I'm sure you guys feel the same exact way.

00:07:50.000 It's really like, I would say my experience in that room was that Erica had a fire and a confidence and a strength.

00:08:00.000 And you kind of saw her in a different way, in a different context where she's actually pushing forward an agenda, which I thought was a powerful.

00:08:10.000 Exactly.

00:08:11.000 Exactly.

00:08:12.000 It's stepping up into another one of the roles that does come with having to succeed her husband, which is he always was a fighter for the next race, the next election, the next battle.

00:08:23.000 You've got to go.

00:08:25.000 Every victory is just a chance to fight another battle in the future.

00:08:29.000 And she recognizes that as well.

00:08:31.000 And we didn't really show it in that clip, but a big theme of that was there's a lot of people who complain online.

00:08:37.000 We talked last week about the black pillars and the people who just fume that nothing is happening.

00:08:42.000 And a lot of her remarks were just here's all the amazing things that have happened amazing things that happened on immigration, amazing things that have happened on crime.

00:08:48.000 And she also mentioned, you know, we're not people in Nigeria being killed for our faith.

00:08:54.000 We're not Europeans being prosecuted for our speech.

00:08:56.000 We're not Canadians being fed into the suicide pod.

00:09:00.000 And so many things to be grateful for, so many things to fight for.

00:09:03.000 And I think that it was that combination that certainly Charlie himself would have been delivering.

00:09:10.000 So we've got to talk about this Shreveport killer dad story because it's really a really tragic story, but there's larger implications as well.

00:09:18.000 So, Shreveport dad killed, it looks like, eight kids, including seven of his own children.

00:09:27.000 He was ID'd as Shamar Elkins.

00:09:30.000 Who was a former army vet, a national guardsman who shared a post of his daughter's hour before the slaughter?

00:09:38.000 It was a really, really, really sad case because it looks like he went to, he was going through a divorce.

00:09:44.000 He talked online about maybe facing mental issues, mental struggles, his demons.

00:09:50.000 He talked about his demons, but he also took his kids to church and he was an army vet.

00:09:54.000 It looks like this is a truly a case of some tragic story of a man giving in to these demons and mental instability and.

00:10:03.000 The results are horrific. 0.69

00:10:05.000 So he was going through a divorce, kills the kids and shoots one of the moms in the heads, then goes to his girlfriend, his, you know, I guess his baby mama to use the jargon of the day, and shoots her in the face and kills three more kids. 0.64

00:10:22.000 So seven of his own kids, eight kids total. 0.63

00:10:25.000 One of them was a cousin.

00:10:26.000 And it looks like one of the boys, we're not sure if it was one of his sons or not, but there was a 13 year old boy that climbed up on a roof and jumped out off the roof to escape.

00:10:35.000 He broke his leg and is going to survive.

00:10:40.000 The two women are in critical condition.

00:10:41.000 So, this death toll in theory could rise to 10 and just a complete tragedy.

00:10:48.000 Then he carjacks a vehicle and speeds away, gets in a police chase with the police, and basically a terrible story altogether.

00:10:57.000 But we find out then, after as news reports begin circulating, that in March 2019, three years after completing his military service, Elkins was arrested on a charge of illegal use of weapons and carrying a firearm on school property.

00:11:14.000 More than that, because what he did is apparently he had some confrontation with a man in a car.

00:11:20.000 According to Elkins himself, the man pulled a gun and pointed it at him.

00:11:24.000 Who knows?

00:11:25.000 But then, as that car drove away, he pulled out his gun, fired it five times after that car, apparently in the direction of the high school, was where the round was going.

00:11:35.000 And the end result of that was he pleaded guilty and he received 18 months probation.

00:11:41.000 Not 18 months in prison, not 18 years in prison, but 18 months.

00:11:48.000 Probation.

00:11:49.000 So, this is another classic story.

00:11:49.000 No prison time.

00:11:51.000 Now, this is a red state, but let's be honest, there are bad judges all over the country.

00:11:57.000 And there is a proclivity within the legal community to give a ton of leeway to judges.

00:12:05.000 So, here's what you need to take away from this we need to stop empowering judges to give leniency, to exhibit any sort of discretion.

00:12:15.000 No, there needs to be mandatory sentencing when you pick up a firearm.

00:12:18.000 And you use it with lethal intent.

00:12:21.000 Five shots in the direction of a car, in the direction of a school, and this guy's let back onto the streets almost immediately with 18 months probation.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, it's.

00:12:30.000 We've learned this lesson over and over.

00:12:32.000 We're learning it again.

00:12:33.000 You know, the bright side of this is crime in D.C., for example, is dramatically down, 50% drop in homicides.

00:12:39.000 Crime in.

00:12:40.000 More impressive, I would say, actually, is the drop of crime in Baltimore nearby.

00:12:44.000 Baltimore was America's murder capital, basically, for.

00:12:49.000 About a decade after the Freddie Gray riots, their murder rate doubled overnight and stayed high.

00:12:53.000 And now it's crashing again.

00:12:55.000 And the reason it's crashing is they have a DA who is a Democrat, but he's said, okay, we're actually going to enforce those gun crimes.

00:13:05.000 Like in this case, we're routinely getting undercharged.

00:13:08.000 That if you say and if you mean it, that if you're caught carrying a gun while you're a felon, if you use a gun while you're a felon, if you have any reason you're not allowed to be carrying or using a firearm and you get caught, We will punish you, and it's going to be multiple years.

00:13:25.000 And that gets the dangerous ticking time bombs off the street.

00:13:29.000 And it also means anyone with a brain who doesn't want to go to prison stops carrying illegal guns in the first place because you know, I'll go to prison for five years.

00:13:37.000 And if they're not smart enough to make that correction, then they're probably not smart enough to be on the street.

00:13:42.000 Exactly.

00:13:42.000 And so.

00:13:44.000 It's this basic thing here that sadly we would possibly have these people, these children still alive if we just bothered to enforce these laws.

00:13:52.000 And it reveals something else about the left that they often agitate for gun control.

00:13:58.000 They often agitate for new gun laws.

00:14:00.000 But the best thing we could do to suppress crime in a lot of places is enforce the gun laws we already have.

00:14:05.000 Because everywhere in the country, it's illegal for a felon to just be carrying a gun around.

00:14:09.000 It's illegal to just blast a gun off right next to a school.

00:14:13.000 And if you enforce those laws, You will prevent future tragedies because very few people start with murdering children as their first offense.

00:14:23.000 Yeah, well, again, there's too much discretion in the judicial system when it comes to judges and the sentences that they can levy against criminals.

00:14:32.000 This guy pleads guilty to plead down to an 18 month probation.

00:14:35.000 They probably looked at the fact that he was an army vet, they probably looked at the fact that he's a family man, that all this stuff.

00:14:40.000 Well, it's a huge problem though.

00:14:42.000 Lethal force, lethal intent in the middle of public towards a school should not come with 18 months probation.

00:14:49.000 There should not be that much discretion.

00:14:50.000 That much leeway in the system.

00:14:52.000 This man should have been put away and done a hard time, and frankly, it should have been a lot longer than 18 months in prison.

00:14:59.000 And I don't know if it's going to turn out to be the judge because if it was a plea deal, it was likely prosecutors who struck this.

00:15:04.000 And yeah, it's a red state.

00:15:05.000 There's bigger picture things, which is, for example, we should make sure it's Louisiana.

00:15:09.000 I suspect they do this because Louisiana has crowded prisons.

00:15:12.000 Well, what you need to do is bite the bullet, have more prisons, have more funding for prosecutors, and if you need to, more funding for judges.

00:15:21.000 Make the system run quickly because.

00:15:23.000 As we've seen in the case, we're all following it.

00:15:25.000 It's moving slowly, and that doesn't make people feel there's justice either.

00:15:29.000 You want criminals to be rapidly brought to justice, quickly and efficiently punished with a penalty that is consistently severe for crimes that warrant it.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, I mean, 18 months probation in this instance, lethal force in public, that's crazy. 1.00

00:15:46.000 Imagine what they would do in some of these Asian countries. 1.00

00:15:49.000 There'd be lashings involved and being put in prison for a while. 0.99

00:15:57.000 I wasn't expecting this, I have to say.

00:15:59.000 But Death of Recess, it stopped me in my tracks.

00:16:03.000 This isn't about dodgeballs and jungle gyms.

00:16:06.000 It's about control.

00:16:07.000 The modern American classroom didn't just happen, it was intentionally designed, it was standardized and centralized.

00:16:13.000 And once you see who built it and who protects it, everything clicks.

00:16:17.000 Billions of dollars are flowing through education bureaucracies every year.

00:16:21.000 Test scores collapse, and somehow the answer is always more money and less parental authority.

00:16:27.000 The documentary breaks down.

00:16:28.000 How organizations like the NEA amassed enormous influence, how radical gender ideology entered classrooms, and why something as basic as recess, movement, freedom, childhood, you know, had to go.

00:16:41.000 That's not random.

00:16:42.000 That's systemic.

00:16:44.000 Institutions protect themselves, they do not protect your kids.

00:16:47.000 And that's why this documentary exists on Angel Studio streaming platform, Angel Guild.

00:16:52.000 Angel Guild is willing to distribute films that challenge powerful systems when legacy media won't touch them.

00:16:59.000 So, right now, go to angel.com. com slash Charlie and watch Death of Recess right now.

00:17:05.000 If you're a parent or plan to be, you need to see this.

00:17:07.000 That's angel.com slash Charlie and watch Death of Recess.

00:17:15.000 All right, without further ado, we have Attorney General Ken Paxton from the state of Texas, who's also a candidate for the United States Senate that we're going to get into in just a few minutes as well.

00:17:26.000 Welcome back to the show, Mr. Attorney General.

00:17:28.000 Hey, so great to be back.

00:17:30.000 I'm just traveling the state in Corpus Christi today on my way to Victoria.

00:17:33.000 Oh, good for you.

00:17:34.000 There you go.

00:17:35.000 Well, it's a huge state.

00:17:37.000 I mean, it's like running for president of other states or of other countries, rather.

00:17:42.000 So you've got a huge, huge.

00:17:45.000 Route that you have to travel, I know, but we've got breaking news over the weekend, and I want to get to it right away.

00:17:51.000 And that's this lawsuit against Act Blue, which was an issue near and dear to Charlie's heart.

00:17:58.000 I mean, it just seems like there's been so much smoke.

00:18:01.000 There's got to be fire with Act Blue.

00:18:03.000 Tell us why you're moving ahead with this, and what have you discovered, sir?

00:18:07.000 So, Charlie was not wrong, which is not shocking.

00:18:10.000 We actually started investigating them back in 2023 because we'd heard reports of various.

00:18:16.000 Improprieties.

00:18:17.000 And so we actually, because it's federal election laws, Federal Election Commission, we actually referred it to them.

00:18:24.000 I know you wouldn't be shocked to know that the Biden administration did not pursue anything against ActBlue and they continue to raise money.

00:18:30.000 So then, of course, more recently, there was testimony in front of Congress by some of the ActBlue lawyers acknowledging that ActBlue had lied to Congress.

00:18:39.000 They had not disclosed some of the problems with their fundraising, including potential using straw names and Using names that were not matched to the actual donors and also potential foreign investments, which is also completely illegal.

00:18:56.000 So, we actually tested it.

00:18:59.000 We actually had my attorney go online and test it, and we were able to make donations without fully disclosing who we were.

00:19:05.000 So, we know the site's not raising money inappropriately.

00:19:09.000 So, we have now sued them.

00:19:11.000 We're going to use discovery to try to understand more fully how big of a problem this is.

00:19:16.000 So, I saw a story this weekend about there was some Chinese organized crime network that was gobbling up gift cards and prepaid debit cards and funneling that money to various places.

00:19:30.000 And one of the things that I see here in your press release is that a lot of people are able to use prepaid debit cards and gift cards to actually make donations on this website.

00:19:43.000 So, you've got foreign organized crime rings that we know are using gift cards for nefarious purposes.

00:19:50.000 And then you conveniently have Act Blue that doesn't seem to have safeguards for similar types of donations or purchases.

00:19:57.000 Do you think that that is the intent?

00:20:00.000 Is the intent here that there is soft spots in this program?

00:20:05.000 Because I believe you don't even have, if you use your credit card, you don't even need a CVV code.

00:20:09.000 At least that's the way it was before.

00:20:11.000 So I just, your thoughts here, sir.

00:20:14.000 Absolutely.

00:20:15.000 They're completely violating the law on purpose.

00:20:17.000 We caught them not using the CVV codes.

00:20:21.000 And they told us they were corrected.

00:20:22.000 And we know now that they are not corrected because we were able to make donations giving those codes.

00:20:27.000 So we know that they tell us one thing and do another.

00:20:30.000 Their intent, it appears, is to violate the law.

00:20:33.000 And as I said, I can't stop them from violating federal law.

00:20:36.000 That would have to be the FEC.

00:20:37.000 And hopefully they will look into this more fully, especially given what was already admitted in Congress.

00:20:43.000 But no, absolutely.

00:20:44.000 They're using gift cards, they're using debit cards, they're using Apple Pay, they're using Venmo.

00:20:48.000 There's all kinds of ways that they're skirting the law.

00:20:51.000 And these foreign donations, these other countries are influencing.

00:20:55.000 Our elections completely illegally, but they're getting away with it through Act Blue.

00:20:59.000 I want the audience here, Mr. Attorney General, to understand the scope of this.

00:21:04.000 They have raised and processed more than $16 billion, billion with a B, since its founding in 2004.

00:21:13.000 Huge.

00:21:14.000 And by the way, WinRed, which is kind of the counterpart on the right, doesn't come anywhere close to this.

00:21:19.000 Blake, I know you guys are.

00:21:20.000 So, as you mentioned, you can't enforce the federal law aspect of this.

00:21:25.000 But is there potential?

00:21:26.000 What's your ability as part of this lawsuit, as part of this investigation, to bring in, you know, you could maybe collect information that applies to the whole country?

00:21:35.000 Is there any dimension where you can work with the FEC or offer up stuff you're able to find and speed up whatever investigation they're able to do?

00:21:42.000 Well, I love that question because the.

00:21:44.000 I'm running for U.S. Senate.

00:21:45.000 When I'm in the U.S. Senate, I'll be all over this.

00:21:47.000 The problem we have now is our current U.S. Senator John Corn has never been interested in this issue.

00:21:53.000 We have brought it up for years.

00:21:55.000 We filed this letter with the FEC several years ago and no response.

00:22:01.000 So, obviously, the information that we get, we will disclose to the public and to the federal government and we will use it in our own lawsuit.

00:22:10.000 We hope that the FEC will go forward.

00:22:12.000 We want them to.

00:22:13.000 We think now with new leadership, we've got a much better chance, obviously.

00:22:16.000 So, yes, we are hopeful that the information that we gather, which we expect to be even more than what we have now, will be very helpful to the federal government and hopefully them taking action.

00:22:27.000 So, you brought it up first.

00:22:30.000 I was going to get to it, but you are running for U.S. Senate, and your primary contender is the sitting U.S. Senator from the state of Texas, John Cornyn.

00:22:42.000 And there has been a little bit of news around the endorsement or lack thereof from President Trump.

00:22:49.000 Give us an update on the race and maybe any insights into that endorsement story that we all heard so much about as well.

00:22:57.000 So, in the first round, I've been campaigning for a year as of April the 8th.

00:23:01.000 We just had our March 3rd primary, we had eight people in the race.

00:23:04.000 18% went to other candidates, including Wesley Hunt.

00:23:08.000 And then I ended up at 41.

00:23:09.000 He had 42, but he spent $100 million all in.

00:23:12.000 I spent 5.8.

00:23:15.000 A topic for another day, but they definitely have the rules rigged as it relates to fundraising for challengers.

00:23:22.000 That's just amazing.

00:23:24.000 Mr. Attorney General, I'm sorry to interject here, but when I think about where that money could be spent, and we're staring at a midterm that is not assured, the outcome is not assured that we even keep the Senate.

00:23:37.000 And we.

00:23:38.000 The powers that be blow $100 million on a Senate primary in Texas.

00:23:45.000 Just imagine that.

00:23:46.000 Where could that money be better spent?

00:23:47.000 You know, that's just a question that we should all be asking.

00:23:50.000 Like, what are we thinking?

00:23:52.000 But, anyways, continue on.

00:23:54.000 Well, it does tell you one thing that incumbency is more important than majority.

00:23:58.000 They tell you that, you know, they raise money with donors and then John Cornyn gets to spend $100 million plus.

00:24:04.000 I mean, how much more is he going to spend in this runoff?

00:24:06.000 Another $30, $40, $50 million?

00:24:08.000 It just seems like.

00:24:09.000 Uh, it's clear from their actions from John Corner's actions that incumbency protecting incumbents we're going to have a Republican in the state.

00:24:16.000 We didn't need to spend that money here, we could have spent it in a general election either here or North Carolina or Michigan or Maine.

00:24:22.000 We have lots of places these other senators are being hurt by this, and these other opportunities are being hurt.

00:24:29.000 So, the majority is secondary to getting John Corner elected.

00:24:31.000 Which, really, I mean, if donors really understood that, I'm not sure that they wouldn't have an impact on fundraising.

00:24:37.000 Certainly, would me if I were giving, I'd want to know.

00:24:40.000 Hey, you're taking my money that I expected to go against Democrats and using it against a conservative Republican in Texas.

00:24:47.000 What's the benefit to the party for that?

00:24:49.000 I don't see one.

00:24:51.000 I so agree.

00:24:52.000 It's so infuriating to me because, you know, Turning Point, for example, let's just use round numbers, about a hundred million dollar org, which is significant.

00:25:00.000 It's not the biggest in the space by any means.

00:25:02.000 Left wing groups are way bigger.

00:25:03.000 And we get hundreds of articles written about us all the time, constantly.

00:25:08.000 And you got one primary race in Texas that gobbles up a hundred million dollars in a couple months.

00:25:15.000 If you think about the scope, I mean, it's just, it's infuriating.

00:25:17.000 So go ahead, Mr. Attorney General.

00:25:21.000 Spending more.

00:25:21.000 I mean, we already know they're spending more right now.

00:25:23.000 We've got five weeks left till this is over, four weeks till early voting.

00:25:27.000 How many more millions of dollars is it going to take to get an incumbent who's been in the Senate for 24 years?

00:25:32.000 No one in Texas has ever run for five terms, not Sam Houston, who was the holder of this seat when it was founded and we became a part of the republic.

00:25:42.000 So no one's ever been in office that long and no one's ever accomplished less in the 24 years plus.

00:25:48.000 Actually, he's been in office for over 40 years and has literally no accomplishment.

00:25:52.000 There's none that people can give me.

00:25:53.000 That I've been asking for over a year, every audience, what has he done good? 1.00

00:25:57.000 We, of course, know the detrimental things, helping Joe Biden get Afghan refugees to resettle here. 1.00

00:26:04.000 And that's a very dangerous proposition. 1.00

00:26:05.000 Helping Joe Biden.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, I mean, it's awful.

00:26:08.000 It's one of the things we're dealing with now.

00:26:09.000 The problems that John Cornyn created with Joe Biden, we are dealing with in Texas every day now.

00:26:14.000 Well, Mr. Attorney General, we have your back.

00:26:17.000 We've endorsed you at Turning Point Action.

00:26:20.000 Tell us where is the race right now?

00:26:21.000 What is the polling saying?

00:26:22.000 And when is the primary election as well?

00:26:26.000 Such a great question.

00:26:27.000 It's amazing how few people vote in a runoff and how few people even know when it is.

00:26:31.000 It's May 18th through the 22nd, five days of early voting right before Memorial Weekend, Monday through Friday.

00:26:36.000 And then Election Day is literally the day after Memorial Weekend, May 26th.

00:26:40.000 So it's really important.

00:26:42.000 That people tell their friends, tell their family, encourage because we had 2 million people vote in the primary, probably have less than a million vote in the runoff.

00:26:50.000 So your vote really is leveraged.

00:26:52.000 As far as where the race is at, every race, every poll I've seen on the head, the last poll I saw, we were at 48, John was at 40.

00:26:58.000 With the Trump endorsement, John would go to 42, I'd be at 45.

00:27:03.000 Without it, I would be at 55, and he'd be at 35.

00:27:07.000 So it's interesting to see those numbers, but they don't really matter until election day.

00:27:12.000 So, you know, polls are polls, and they don't, what matters is, People getting out, and I don't want people to rest or relax because we have a real opportunity to change Texas and the country with the change in leadership from Texas.

00:27:24.000 Mr. Attorney General, we have your back.

00:27:26.000 Please support this man.

00:27:27.000 He is the grassroots, the movement conservative in this race.

00:27:31.000 And the other guy's been a thorn in the side of the admin and of the movement for years.

00:27:35.000 It's time for new blood.

00:27:36.000 Mr. Ken Paxton, we've got your back 100%.

00:27:39.000 Thank you for making the time today.

00:27:40.000 Appreciate it.

00:27:41.000 Love what you guys are doing and have ever since the inception.

00:27:43.000 So God bless you guys.

00:27:46.000 God bless you too.

00:27:47.000 All right. 0.99

00:27:48.000 So, another day, another violent criminal, illegal alien killing somebody with a hammer. 1.00

00:27:55.000 All right.

00:27:56.000 Literally, when we were processing this story out of Houston, we're like, wait, is this the same story?

00:28:02.000 Is this the same story?

00:28:03.000 Is this different?

00:28:04.000 No, no, no.

00:28:04.000 It's different.

00:28:05.000 So, you'll remember last week we covered, and by the way, some of you got sent us emails.

00:28:09.000 You didn't like seeing the video.

00:28:10.000 We heard you, but we actually think it's important that you see the violence and the grotesque nature of these crimes by people who should never be here.

00:28:20.000 Who shouldn't have been here in the first place. 0.99

00:28:23.000 So now there's a different story, not the Haitian story out of Fort Myers, where the guy was on temporary protected status. 0.99

00:28:30.000 And then, by the way, a bunch of GOP House members thought it would be a good idea to extend TPS indefinitely, apparently, for Haitians. 0.60

00:28:38.000 Well, that's dead on arrival.

00:28:40.000 Okay, that's not going to happen.

00:28:41.000 We're going to get them the hell out of our country, candidly, because this stuff infuriates me so much. 1.00

00:28:45.000 There's a new story of a Venezuelan criminal illegal in Houston this time. 0.96

00:28:52.000 Who kills a co worker with a sledgehammer?

00:28:54.000 And it's the same beats every single time.

00:28:56.000 Caught and released at the border by the Biden administration, November 2023. 0.74

00:29:00.000 An asylum seeker.

00:29:02.000 Got to give him his day in court.

00:29:03.000 ICE has now placed a detainer request on Jose Abraham Chirino Leonice.

00:29:10.000 I don't know how you say these things. 0.97

00:29:11.000 It's not Italian.

00:29:12.000 But yeah.

00:29:14.000 Jose Abraham Chirino Leonice.

00:29:19.000 Leonice. 0.71

00:29:20.000 Probably Leonice.

00:29:21.000 I do speak a little bit of Spanish.

00:29:22.000 Don't play the sound.

00:29:24.000 So, if you watch Thought Crime, you know the reference.

00:29:27.000 All right.

00:29:27.000 So, this is what they say this criminal legal who never should have been allowed in the country in the first place is accused of savagely beating a co worker to death.

00:29:35.000 This is the I statement with a sledgehammer and leaving him to die in a house they were renovating together. 1.00

00:29:40.000 Our officers are working tirelessly to restore integrity to our nation's immigration system to bring an end to the carnage and unnecessary suffering in this country that's caused by criminal illegal aliens. 0.99

00:29:51.000 And we won't rest until we've accomplished that mission. 1.00

00:29:53.000 All right.

00:29:54.000 So, let's just.

00:29:56.000 Paint the picture for you yet again.

00:29:59.000 There are forces within our government and within our corporate class that do not want us to remove these people.

00:30:07.000 And it is making the country weaker.

00:30:09.000 It's making the country poorer.

00:30:10.000 It's making the country more violent.

00:30:12.000 It's making the country less educated.

00:30:14.000 It's making the country more chaotic and less orderly.

00:30:17.000 It's making it dirtier.

00:30:19.000 It's making it way harder for normal Americans to get normal jobs. 0.89

00:30:24.000 And for some reason, and I'm looking at you, big ag, I'm looking at you, big hospitality, you guys want to make sure that these people stay in the country instead of paying Americans a living wage.

00:30:35.000 And this is the result people getting killed left and right, getting beat to death with sledgehammers or hammers.

00:30:42.000 And I'm so sick of the arguments where people are like, oh, but we have to have compassion.

00:30:48.000 No, compassionate immigration policy, so called, is cruelty to Americans.

00:30:53.000 It's cruelty to your fellow citizens. 0.51

00:30:55.000 And I don't know that the person that was killed in this instance was an American. 0.84

00:30:59.000 It doesn't matter.

00:31:00.000 It's a crime on our watch, and the blood is on the hands of the Biden administration.

00:31:04.000 And guess what?

00:31:05.000 The blood will be on the hands of big ag and big hospitality if you continue pushing this amnesty, diet amnesty, whatever you want to call it.

00:31:12.000 Oh, no pass to citizenship, has to pay a fine.

00:31:14.000 I don't want to hear about it.

00:31:15.000 And I'm candidly, I don't think the movement wants to hear about it.

00:31:18.000 Because if you guys rain on our parade here, if you take out the enthusiasm from the base, then we will get our just desserts when it comes to the midterms.

00:31:27.000 We will be roundly defeated in the midterms if you go soft on immigration, if you go soft on deportations.

00:31:33.000 None of us want to hear about it anymore.

00:31:35.000 I'm sick of even having to sort of play in the middle or what.

00:31:37.000 No, I'm not in the middle. 0.96

00:31:39.000 I want them all gone and I want sledgehammer deaths to stop. 0.88

00:31:41.000 Okay? 0.98

00:31:42.000 And guess what? 0.99

00:31:43.000 If an American kills somebody with a sledgehammer, that's on us. 0.96

00:31:46.000 That's our problem.

00:31:46.000 We inherited that from us.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, we will event like, You're inevitably going to have crimes that are homegrown, but the proper crime rate for people you let into this country should be nearly zero. 0.74

00:31:55.000 Zero. 0.61

00:31:56.000 A great comparison is anytime a plane crashes, we do a big investigation.

00:32:01.000 How did this plane crash?

00:32:02.000 What should we change to make sure this never happens again?

00:32:04.000 And as a result, we have almost no plane crashes in America.

00:32:08.000 They're very rare, they used to be way more common. 0.99

00:32:10.000 It should be like that with immigration. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Anytime a guy like this, the Haitian hammer person, this Venezuelan sledgehammer person, every single time one of them becomes a murderer, assaults someone, Rape someone, kidnap someone, it should be required. 1.00

00:32:25.000 How did this person ever get into America? 1.00

00:32:26.000 What can we change to make sure this never happens again?

00:32:29.000 Because these people just should not be here, period.

00:32:32.000 Let me just like see, explain to you another way that this story is related.

00:32:36.000 The massive number of U.S. anchor baby births in 2023, which apparently is the last year we have on record, is the highest total since 2010, which was insane to me that we were already dealing with this number in 2010.

00:32:49.000 When 325,000 babies were born to illegal immigrant parents, this is according to Pew data. 0.94

00:32:56.000 So, not only are we letting these people in and we're letting them kill people with sledgehammers or cars or their CDLs, whatever, we're also letting them have babies at record numbers hundreds of thousands of babies. 1.00

00:33:13.000 10%? 0.99

00:33:14.000 10% of the population of new babies are children of illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:33:17.000 They're anchor babies. 0.99

00:33:19.000 And guess what?

00:33:20.000 The sad truth is that it's probably the Supreme Court is going to rule against this.

00:33:24.000 That's probably the sad truth.

00:33:26.000 I pray I'm wrong.

00:33:28.000 I will be so overjoyed if I'm wrong. 0.99

00:33:30.000 If we get a 5 4, that'll be the best 5 4 decision in my lifetime. 1.00

00:33:35.000 Children of illegals owe their allegiance to the country that they came from. 1.00

00:33:39.000 They do not owe their allegiance or their loyalty to us. 1.00

00:33:43.000 That's not what the law was made to do.

00:33:44.000 It's not what the amendment was made to do, the 14th Amendment. 0.59

00:33:47.000 It was made to make citizens out of freed slaves and their children. 0.76

00:33:51.000 The bastardization of our rule of law in defense of foreigners that have no business being here, have no allegiance to this country, like my kids do, like Blake does, like our team in the studio.

00:34:02.000 I was born in this country.

00:34:04.000 I'm going to die in this country.

00:34:05.000 My kids were born in this country. 1.00

00:34:07.000 They're going to die in this country.

00:34:08.000 I do not owe my allegiance to these people.

00:34:11.000 And our politicians in Washington need to get this straight. 0.99

00:34:13.000 I'm sick of caring about foreigners more than I care about Americans.

00:34:16.000 I'm sick of our politicians caring about foreigners more than we care about Americans.

00:34:20.000 It's done.

00:34:21.000 We're done.

00:34:22.000 And if you don't hear us, you will be punished.

00:34:27.000 And there's nothing more I can do about it than scream at the top of my lungs in this microphone and tell you to stop.

00:34:32.000 Knock it off. 0.99

00:34:33.000 We don't want diet amnesty.

00:34:35.000 Blake, please say something.

00:34:37.000 It's just, it really is a disgrace what they've done.

00:34:42.000 It's a disgrace how much they lie about this.

00:34:46.000 It's a disgrace how they just refuse to get the point.

00:34:48.000 And that we're a decade into, call it the MAGA moment, the MAGA movement, which remember how this started.

00:34:55.000 It started on immigration.

00:34:56.000 This started with immigration.

00:34:57.000 This started with Donald Trump.

00:34:58.000 Bill comes down.

00:35:00.000 Donald Trump comes down the escalator.

00:35:02.000 And that is what originally made him go viral that he's there giving his first speech as a candidate.

00:35:07.000 And he says that.

00:35:08.000 Rapists and other criminals are coming across the border.

00:35:11.000 And here we are a decade later.

00:35:13.000 And one, it's okay, thankfully, isn't happening under this admin, but it happened under the previous one.

00:35:17.000 And we still have Republicans fighting to defend this who flip out at the idea that we roll back our asylum system.

00:35:24.000 There was another headline I saw today.

00:35:25.000 So the Trump administration had fired one of our immigration judges.

00:35:29.000 And so that guy went and he decided to make a pilgrimage to the mountain home in Guatemala of the extended family of the last group of people he granted asylum to.

00:35:39.000 Here's an idea if you can go on a fun little white guilt savior trip, To Central America to take selfies with someone, that country doesn't get to claim asylum in the US.

00:35:50.000 I don't mean to get so worked up, but I feel like you guys probably feel the same.

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00:37:15.000 We have one of my favorite guests back on today, and that's Sean Davis, who's the CEO of The Federalist and a co founder of that great publication that I check every day.

00:37:25.000 There's only a few, and it's one of them.

00:37:27.000 Welcome back to the show, Sean.

00:37:29.000 Thanks for having me back.

00:37:31.000 It's great to have you back.

00:37:32.000 I know you've been busy lately, so thank you for making the time.

00:37:35.000 We are titling this entire time with you today, The Bait and Switch Democrats.

00:37:41.000 Okay.

00:37:42.000 And the reason we bring that up is because you never go full Virginia.

00:37:45.000 Don't ever go full Virginia.

00:37:47.000 Okay.

00:37:49.000 But That's what Virginia's doing.

00:37:51.000 And it's interesting.

00:37:52.000 I heard this clip this morning from Mamdani saying, a reporter asked him, Do you still believe in democratic socialism?

00:37:59.000 And he goes, I believe more than I did yesterday and the day before that.

00:38:04.000 And we're seeing this uptick in the radical left of the party, right?

00:38:08.000 They're gaining traction.

00:38:09.000 Even some of the Senate candidates that are far left are gaining traction.

00:38:13.000 But what's really creepy is just how much they are willing to go against things they even previously said.

00:38:19.000 I'm going to play this clip from Obama, who's been out front trying to push for the Gerrymandering this 10 1 map in Virginia, state that Kamala Harris won by about five points.

00:38:30.000 But they're all in on this, despite their previous comments.

00:38:34.000 I believe this is SOT 16.

00:38:36.000 By ending some of the partisan gerrymandering so that all voters have the power to choose their politicians, not the other way around.

00:38:46.000 In April, Virginians can respond by making sure your voting power is not diminished.

00:38:51.000 This amendment gives you the power to level the playing field in the midterms this fall.

00:38:55.000 This is the responsible thing to do.

00:38:57.000 And then, Sean, Virginia Senator Tim Kaine was on Fox News over the weekend and saying this is a fair thing to do.

00:39:04.000 Sot won.

00:39:05.000 Vice President Kamala Harris won by about five percentage points.

00:39:08.000 So this state is relatively split with a left lean, but 90% of House members from Virginia being from one party.

00:39:14.000 90% of Virginians are not Democrats.

00:39:16.000 That's true.

00:39:17.000 But about 100% of Virginians want election results to be respected.

00:39:21.000 We're deeply worried that Donald Trump will try to interfere with the election results this November or in 2028 because we saw him do it before.

00:39:29.000 And we have to have a Congress.

00:39:31.000 That will stand up to it.

00:39:33.000 We're giving Virginians a chance to vote, which Republican states have not done, about whether they want to have a congressional delegation that will stand up against Donald Trump's tyranny.

00:39:43.000 Sean, what do you make of this?

00:39:44.000 What they're willing to say in public is pretty shocking, actually.

00:39:47.000 It is.

00:39:48.000 Well, Democrats understand power.

00:39:50.000 This has been my constant beef with Republicans that Republicans don't truly understand the nature of power.

00:39:56.000 Democrats understand.

00:39:57.000 And one thing they understand about politics in this country is that if you can just get into office by whatever means necessary, you can kind of do whatever you want.

00:40:07.000 That was the lesson of the Obama presidency.

00:40:09.000 It was certainly the lesson of the Biden presidency.

00:40:11.000 He barely won and then came in and tried to deliver 100% of what Democrats want.

00:40:16.000 And so, what Democrats have realized is, hey, let's just lie about who we are because who we are is actually deeply unpopular.

00:40:22.000 People hate the things that we really deeply believe in, like transing children and taxpayer funded abortions through the moment of crowning at birth.

00:40:32.000 These are absolutely abhorrent views that most people in this country don't share.

00:40:36.000 And so, Democrats have just realized, hey, we're just going to lie about who we are.

00:40:39.000 We're going to go full Spanburger.

00:40:41.000 We're going to pretend we oppose all the bad things and we support all the good things.

00:40:45.000 And then, once we get in office, we're going to do whatever the heck we want to do.

00:40:49.000 And that's what they're doing.

00:40:50.000 And, you know, it's at some point you have to stop getting mad at them for doing the thing that is best for them as a party.

00:40:58.000 And at some point you just have to get mad at your own party for not understanding the game and not getting wise to it and not fighting on the terms that the other side is fighting on.

00:41:06.000 Well, check out this tweet from Abigail Spanberger from 2019, the now governor of that state.

00:41:11.000 This is good news.

00:41:12.000 And she's talking about gerrymandering.

00:41:14.000 This is good news for Virginia and the country.

00:41:15.000 Gerrymandering is detrimental to our democracy and it weakens the individual voices that form our electorates.

00:41:21.000 Opposing gerrymandering.

00:41:23.000 Should be a bipartisan priority.

00:41:26.000 We agree with you, Governor Spamberger.

00:41:28.000 That's why we oppose this measure.

00:41:30.000 Sean, looking at Virginia, and Blake deserves a ton of credit because he's been the one on our team that's like, we have to talk about Virginia.

00:41:37.000 We have to talk about Virginia.

00:41:38.000 And I was so eager.

00:41:39.000 I screwed it up last week and I thought the election was last week, Tuesday.

00:41:42.000 You can still vote if you're in Virginia until tomorrow.

00:41:46.000 But what do you make of the current state of Abigail Spamberger's governorship? 0.73

00:41:52.000 She's only been in office a little while. 1.00

00:41:53.000 Already her polls are tanking.

00:41:55.000 Does this bode well?

00:41:56.000 What are you seeing in the polling and on the energy on the ground?

00:41:59.000 I know a lot of your team is based right there in Virginia.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, so it's Spanberger is again a really interesting test case of whether words matter.

00:42:08.000 And what Democrats do when they talk, they don't use words like you and I use words.

00:42:13.000 To us, words have fixed meaning over space and time.

00:42:16.000 A certain word means the same thing today as it did 10 years ago.

00:42:19.000 Democrats do not view language in that same way.

00:42:22.000 Language is a weapon that they use to manipulate people into giving them what they want.

00:42:27.000 And that's why she can go and say that thing back in 2019 and say gerrymandering is bad because at that time for her and for Democrats, it was bad.

00:42:35.000 It's not bad for them right now.

00:42:37.000 So they have no problem changing their language because changing their language is what they need to do to get what they want.

00:42:43.000 Now, as far as her current political situation in Virginia, she's deeply unpopular. 0.64

00:42:48.000 And my guess is that when you, if you were to ask her office or people on her team, they'd say, yeah, we don't really care.

00:42:55.000 You get one term in Virginia.

00:42:57.000 You don't get to be governor over and over and over again. 0.87

00:43:00.000 She is there for four years. 1.00

00:43:02.000 She is going to do as much damage on behalf of Democrats as she possibly can. 1.00

00:43:07.000 And I, quite frankly, don't think anyone over there gives a crap about how unpopular she is. 1.00

00:43:11.000 Because the thing is, if you have 100% disapproval, she still has 100% of the power. 0.88

00:43:16.000 So what do they care?

00:43:18.000 And truthfully, it's very tough in Virginia specifically.

00:43:21.000 We've been, I don't know if blessed is the right term, but Democrats, when they mismanage California, they can drive everyone out because they make it, you can't really afford to live there.

00:43:32.000 You can't pursue a good job.

00:43:33.000 You can't raise family.

00:43:34.000 They'll influence people.

00:43:35.000 They mess it up in Illinois.

00:43:37.000 We've benefited from people fleeing these blue states.

00:43:37.000 They mess it up.

00:43:40.000 I know there's concerns about Californication, but actually, it mostly has driven out somewhat conservative leaning voters, and it's helped us in a lot of swing states.

00:43:48.000 But the.

00:43:49.000 Cheat code of Virginia is they don't need a real economy.

00:43:53.000 They basically can hold the rest of the country hostage to the federal government.

00:43:57.000 These federal jobs mostly never go away.

00:44:00.000 I know Trump has cut it back, but for the most part, they're there to stay.

00:44:03.000 They're recession proof.

00:44:05.000 DC is the one city in America that never has an economic crisis, and they're able to use this to just endlessly fund.

00:44:12.000 Well, by the way, you know, when we talk about people blackpilling and all this stuff, listen, the federal employment level is the lowest it's been since 1965.

00:44:23.000 So, good things are happening, right?

00:44:26.000 Which negatively impacts the cronyism and the corruption in Northern Virginia in a huge, huge way.

00:44:31.000 Yeah, Blake makes a fantastic point that Virginia, by virtue of Northern Virginia being where it is, seems immune.

00:44:39.000 There's a rather simple solution to that, but it requires using power for the good of the country.

00:44:45.000 And it would mean taking away Northern Virginia from Virginia and putting it back into the district where it belongs.

00:44:51.000 If you look at a map of D.C. originally, it was a little diamond.

00:44:54.000 You had a little bit in Maryland.

00:44:56.000 On the east side of the river, and you had a little bit in Virginia on the west side.

00:45:00.000 Well, at some point over time, they gave Virginia that land that was west of the Potomac back. 0.54

00:45:05.000 If you want to get rid of Virginia as a blue state forever because of Northern Virginia's grip on the country and Lockheed and Raytheon and all the government there, take it back, put it back in D.C., and overnight, Virginia is a red state again. 0.74

00:45:18.000 I've seen this theory floated, and I actually think it's great.

00:45:22.000 The original map included Northern Virginia.

00:45:24.000 And then by virtue of some sort of presidential decree, it was given back to Virginia, but you could take it back legally.

00:45:30.000 It would take some willpower.

00:45:31.000 It would be a lift.

00:45:32.000 You could debate whether it would work.

00:45:34.000 I like the idea.

00:45:35.000 I like the spirit of it.

00:45:36.000 Honestly, it puts them on the defense.

00:45:38.000 We should move forward with it.

00:45:40.000 Sean, I want to show you this clip from Carvel.

00:45:44.000 It's not nice, but I think this is exactly what they're planning SOT 21.

00:45:49.000 The Democrats win the presidency in both houses of Congress.

00:45:52.000 I think on day one, they should make Puerto Rico, D.C., a state, and they should expand the Supreme Court to 13.

00:45:58.000 Eat our dust.

00:46:00.000 They've done everything they could that they held up the 2000 election.

00:46:05.000 They stole it.

00:46:06.000 They've stolen Supreme Court seats.

00:46:10.000 They've gerrymandered everything that you can.

00:46:12.000 And the only way to fight this is don't run on it.

00:46:15.000 Don't talk about it.

00:46:16.000 Just do it.

00:46:17.000 She said, okay, we got 54 senators and we got 13 court members.

00:46:21.000 Thank you.

00:46:22.000 Goodbye.

00:46:24.000 Because you're not going to get a fast shake any kind of way in this system. 0.83

00:46:29.000 18% of the United States elects 52 senators.

00:46:32.000 Well, you're not going to make it equitable, but you'll make it better by adding Puerto Rico and D.C.

00:46:37.000 So, Sean, he says, don't talk about it, don't run on it, just do it.

00:46:43.000 That's the Democrat way.

00:46:44.000 Bait and switch Democrats.

00:46:46.000 Your reaction.

00:46:47.000 Yeah, and understand the ramifications of that plan he's talking about.

00:46:51.000 That basically makes elections relevant, national elections in this country irrelevant going forward.

00:46:57.000 Indefinitely.

00:46:58.000 Because if they add DC, that's two Democrat seats instantly.

00:47:02.000 That's the only reason they care. 0.64

00:47:03.000 They don't actually care about providing the rights and benefits and privileges of statehood to DC residents. 0.99

00:47:09.000 They just want to load the deck in the Senate.

00:47:12.000 And then Puerto Rico, it's the same thing.

00:47:13.000 So bam, they get four more seats forever.

00:47:16.000 And then you pack the court with four more Democrat seats for the next 50 years.

00:47:22.000 That will lead to the radical transformation that cannot be undone by Democrats to this country forever.

00:47:30.000 And it is.

00:47:32.000 A source of constant frustration to me that Republicans, especially those in Washington, don't seem to understand that Democrats are not messing around.

00:47:40.000 They play for keeps.

00:47:42.000 They use power for the sake of power.

00:47:44.000 They reward their friends and they punish their enemies, namely us, and that they're not screwing around anymore.

00:47:49.000 So when James Carville, who's not a nobody, it's kind of a big name in Democrat politics, when he is out there going and saying this out loud, you should take it very seriously.

00:48:00.000 Understand what they want to do to you.

00:48:02.000 Understand what they want to do to this country.

00:48:04.000 They're not just going to come in and get 51% of the power and then give their base 51% of what they want.

00:48:10.000 They're going to come in and do everything they can forever to make sure that no one can ever wrest control from them ever again.

00:48:17.000 So we just were talking to Ken Paxton about John Cornyn and his history as, did he say Texas's longest serving senator?

00:48:25.000 He's going for his 50th anniversary.

00:48:26.000 A lot of accomplishments there.

00:48:27.000 What are the structural reasons you think that it does feel like?

00:48:32.000 Democrats on balance are a bit better at responding to bubbled up concerns of their base, that they're ready to deliver on this very radical platform because the Democrat base wants it.

00:48:43.000 Whereas we were talking about Cornham, we were talking about Republicans, if not quite updated, to we don't want amnesty for Haitian illegal immigrants or Venezuelan illegal immigrants who are attacking people with hammers.

00:48:57.000 It does seem so consistently the Republican leadership doesn't get it.

00:49:03.000 And why are we so consistently stuck with leaders who don't get it?

00:49:06.000 Yeah, I think it's a fantastic question, by the way.

00:49:08.000 I think the major reason is control of the media.

00:49:11.000 And for whatever reason, way too many Republicans who find their way into Washington still care about what the New York, D.C. media thinks about them.

00:49:21.000 And so the New York Times and the Washington Post and CNN and all of them can come out and say awful things about you if you want to deport people who are here illegally.

00:49:28.000 And then those Republicans will just.

00:49:30.000 Buckle because they don't like having mean things said about them.

00:49:33.000 So, the first thing I think that matters is Republicans, Republican donors, Republican activists need to understand how important media control is.

00:49:42.000 It's not just enough to have the internet, these legacy corporate outlets do matter.

00:49:47.000 They have real cultural and political power. 0.96

00:49:50.000 And then, number two, I think unfortunately, a lot of Republicans who end up in Washington are really just cowards. 0.99

00:49:58.000 They don't have the fortitude. 0.97

00:50:00.000 They don't have the stones in the spine to do what needs to be done to save the country.

00:50:04.000 So they can be bullied into not doing things that really need to be done.

00:50:08.000 Democrats, say what you will about them, do not seem to have that problem.

00:50:12.000 They do not seem to have a problem with dealing with the political consequences of what they want.

00:50:17.000 Because look at Nancy Pelosi with Obamacare. 1.00

00:50:20.000 She knew that it was going to hurt Democrats for a cycle or two.

00:50:25.000 But she knew that what they were going to do was going to so radically change the country and the economy that in the long term, It would accrue to the benefit of Democrats.

00:50:34.000 And they just seem to have a longer term thought process when it comes to politics and much stiffer spines politically than Republicans can do.

00:50:42.000 So, I mean, we've got to take control of the media so that we can actually eliminate some of these incentives that Democrats create. 0.84

00:50:48.000 And then we also need to be electing people with a lot bigger balls and a lot stiffer spines. 0.85

00:50:53.000 Yeah, well said. 0.94

00:50:54.000 And I think also another piece of this, we hear this constantly, by the way.

00:50:58.000 And if you look at some of the major nightly news broadcasts or daytime news shows, you'll see a bunch of establishment.

00:51:06.000 GOP senators going on the air saying, We need Cornyn.

00:51:09.000 I don't know if that's a good old boys club.

00:51:09.000 We need Cornyn.

00:51:11.000 We need Cornyn for what?

00:51:12.000 What has he done?

00:51:13.000 He let in a bunch of Afghan folks after Joe Biden screwed up the withdrawal of Afghanistan. 0.94

00:51:20.000 So I don't know what he's done other than be a thorn in the side of the president. 0.93

00:51:23.000 But okay, sure.

00:51:24.000 I guess we're having a discussion about this.

00:51:25.000 I don't know.

00:51:26.000 What are we discussing?

00:51:27.000 Anyways, the thought here, though, is that you see this at the Ken Paxton John Cornyn fight.

00:51:34.000 The line they'll use is Ken Paxton's too conservative to get elected.

00:51:38.000 He won't win a general.

00:51:40.000 And this is the line.

00:51:41.000 And they hurl this at turning point action all the time.

00:51:43.000 And they blame us for any loss that happens in Arizona because we backed the candidate that was too conservative or whatever, right?

00:51:52.000 I am telling you, and maybe you have a thought on this, but going ahead of the midterms, you know, this push for diet amnesty, all this kind of garbage, they are going to depress turnout if they don't give the base what it wants and what it's demanding.

00:52:03.000 Do you agree or disagree?

00:52:04.000 Am I missing something?

00:52:06.000 No, I 100% agree.

00:52:07.000 These people can't even go and get voter ID and the Save America Act passed.

00:52:11.000 They'll go and they'll happily float the idea of new amnesty.

00:52:15.000 They'll say, hey, we need to go and do FISA again because that whole spying thing has worked out so well for Republicans.

00:52:22.000 They learned that the Biden admin was illegally spying on all of them.

00:52:26.000 And their response to that is, you know, we should probably just pass FISA.

00:52:29.000 And no, we really can't do the Save America Act.

00:52:32.000 We need to get to other stuff like permitting reform and this nonsense.

00:52:35.000 And that nonsense.

00:52:37.000 And my goodness, there are some states where you know what?

00:52:39.000 Maybe you can't get the most conservative person on earth.

00:52:43.000 Maine is a good example. 0.97

00:52:45.000 We are talking about freaking Texas.

00:52:47.000 We are talking about the Republic of Texas, one of the most conservative states in the country, a state that has not had a statewide elected Democrat in I think like 25 years.

00:52:57.000 And you're telling us that a guy who's currently in statewide office right now and has been for years is too conservative.

00:53:03.000 It's just a bunch of lies because they want to help out their buddies.

00:53:06.000 And they don't like the idea of actually having to do anything that they promised to do last time they ran.

00:53:11.000 Well, and they're prepared to waste about $150 million on John Cornyn.

00:53:15.000 Instead of fighting Democrats with that money, instead of funneling it somewhere useful to maybe maintain control of the House or maintain control of the Senate in the midterms, no, we're spending it against Ken Paxton.

00:53:24.000 Genius people.

00:53:25.000 It's madness.

00:53:26.000 Sean Davis, you're the man.

00:53:27.000 The Federalists, check it out.

00:53:28.000 Follow him on socials.

00:53:29.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:53:30.000 Thank you all.

00:53:35.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 20, 2026

Building the Red Wall + Virginia's Last Chance

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