The Charlie Kirk Show - California's Cash for Ballots Fraud Exposed + AMA 259

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, March 27, 2026.

00:01:13.000 It was great having Molly Hemingway, Sean Davis, and Megan Basham all in studio yesterday.

00:01:20.000 That was great.

00:01:20.000 It was just moved them here permanently.

00:01:23.000 I totally agree.

00:01:24.000 But if you missed those episodes, check them out on the podcast.

00:01:28.000 Absolutely do that.

00:01:30.000 We'll have some news a little later on the podcast as well.

00:01:33.000 Listen, we woke up this morning to a dead of night passage of a partial DHS funding bill.

00:01:43.000 This is according to Representative Keith Self, good dude.

00:01:47.000 Turning point action endorsed.

00:01:48.000 In the dead of night, with only five senators present on the floor and no one there to object, the Senate rushed through a DHS funding bill that deliberately left ICE and CBP unfunded.

00:02:01.000 Now they are leaving town.

00:02:03.000 No Save America Act.

00:02:05.000 ICE, CBP unfunded.

00:02:08.000 Senate Republicans just gave the Democrats everything they wanted and more.

00:02:11.000 That's coming again from Keith Self.

00:02:14.000 Greg Stuby says, of course, Leader Thune and the Senate Rhinos caved to Democrats who refused to fund ICE and CBP.

00:02:20.000 The American people gave us the House, the Senate, and the White House, and we still can't pass a bill to fund all of DHS.

00:02:27.000 So pretty disappointing result last night.

00:02:30.000 I'm not sure if it's a good idea.

00:02:31.000 It's like failure theater to me.

00:02:32.000 It's failure theater.

00:02:33.000 And by the way, there was all this talk about staying through the Easter recess, never getting this done.

00:02:39.000 No, they've all left.

00:02:40.000 Well, here's the only problem.

00:02:41.000 House Republicans, it seems like, are signaling to Senate Republicans, you better get a return ticket.

00:02:49.000 Better come back to D.C. because I don't think that they are going to fund this.

00:02:53.000 I don't think they're going to pass this bill.

00:02:55.000 So the only way that it passes, which is a possibility, is if a bunch of Democrats get on board with it.

00:03:01.000 So we're going to see how this plays out.

00:03:04.000 But exactly my thought.

00:03:06.000 Failure theater.

00:03:07.000 Once again, we have weak leadership in the Senate.

00:03:10.000 You know, I do want to give some sort of grace to the good guys in the Senate because when you have 53 votes, that may seem like a lot. 0.99

00:03:20.000 It's not a lot because of the darn filibuster. 0.98

00:03:22.000 And all it takes is three squishy people. 0.99

00:03:25.000 And it's a frustration.

00:03:27.000 I'm not even going to say because of the filibuster.

00:03:29.000 The filibuster exists to protect the majority from votes it doesn't want to take.

00:03:35.000 I agree.

00:03:35.000 That is why it exists.

00:03:36.000 The filibuster, the primary beneficiary of the filibuster are people like Mitch McConnell, people like John Thune, who want a ready-made excuse for why they haven't delivered on anything their party has run on and promised in 20 years.

00:03:50.000 Because we've been getting promises of serious immigration reform for 20 years.

00:03:54.000 We've been getting promises on all manner of things, election reforms, all of that.

00:04:01.000 And then they just go, oh, well, you know, unfortunately, we just can't pass this until you give us, really, we're going to probably need like 64 votes because, you know, you lose a Republican here and there.

00:04:08.000 Well, we're never going to get 64 senators.

00:04:10.000 It's not the 1930s.

00:04:12.000 Yeah.

00:04:13.000 And I mean, you want to depress turnout for the midterms.

00:04:17.000 This is exactly how you do it.

00:04:18.000 I'm telling you, this is a five-alarm fire for anybody who will listen.

00:04:23.000 Whether that's in the admin, leadership, you are depressing turnout. 0.99

00:04:30.000 You've got Joe Rogan calling you a bunch of dorks.

00:04:34.000 Enthusiasm waning.

00:04:36.000 You've got an Iran situation where you've got reports now from Axios that we're preparing potentially up to 10,000 more troops to send into the Middle East.

00:04:46.000 If you are not going to deliver on domestic policy promises that you ran on, that people voted for you on, you are going to lose those voters.

00:04:56.000 It is that simple.

00:04:58.000 So Senate Republicans, pass the Save America Act, do whatever it takes.

00:05:03.000 You are destroying the chances of Republicans in the midterms.

00:05:07.000 You're absolutely destroying the chances.

00:05:10.000 And why not?

00:05:12.000 If we're going to do all the work to send you to Washington to get simple things done, common sense legislation done, and you cannot find a way, and all you do is raise excuse after excuse, then don't be surprised when people don't show up for you.

00:05:26.000 Don't be surprised when the people online that used to cheer you on and get out the vote for you get so frustrated that they don't want to do it anymore.

00:05:34.000 We are at that point where it's going to be impossible to make the case for you if you don't get certain basic things done.

00:05:43.000 And you're leaving people like us on this show completely holding the bag.

00:05:48.000 So I encourage House Republicans, deny, reject this awful deal, get back to work, do whatever it takes.

00:05:56.000 I don't care if you can't sleep for a month and a half.

00:05:59.000 That's your job.

00:06:01.000 And if you don't do it, you're dooming everybody.

00:06:04.000 You're dooming the country.

00:06:05.000 You're dooming Western civilization.

00:06:07.000 Because not only are the Republicans the last bastion of anything sensible and good potentially in America, the conservative movement in the United States is the last bastion of hope and freedom for the entire Western civilization.

00:06:22.000 The stakes could literally not be higher.

00:06:27.000 I don't know.

00:06:27.000 Can you make the case?

00:06:28.000 Can you make the case to send these guys back when they can't even get away from the people?

00:06:31.000 Well, I mean, in general, a frustrating thing with politics is you think of, I like to make the comparison to professional sports because it's something Americans actually care about.

00:06:41.000 And when you have a NFL team and it's during the season, like how hard is your team expected to work?

00:06:48.000 They're expected to practice pretty intensely.

00:06:50.000 They're expected to take it for Alan Iverson.

00:06:52.000 Pretty seriously.

00:06:54.000 Yeah, and if you don't, you tend to like wash out on your team.

00:06:58.000 And I just feel like the stakes for the country are pretty high.

00:07:02.000 And it would make a lot of sense to have lawmakers be pretty committed to being there all the time and getting things done.

00:07:08.000 And if you don't want to do it, we can replace you with a lawmaker who will do that.

00:07:12.000 And instead, we just have these barnacles on the American body politic.

00:07:16.000 They have basically allowed Congress to become this inert entity that never passes anything useful and repeatedly disappoints.

00:07:24.000 I think the question I'm asking and everyone asking is, wait, I thought the entire justification for the one big beautiful bill last summer was, oh, it has this unprecedented funding for ICE and border security.

00:07:34.000 And then actually six months later, Democrats in the minority can just kind of make you reverse tack on that.

00:07:42.000 And also, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that a lot of the guys who are stampeding towards giving the Democrats everything they want on this are also the same ones who are the source of so much of our other political difficulties.

00:07:56.000 They're the ones who are the most avid that, oh, we need boots on the ground in Iran.

00:08:00.000 We need to have maximal intervention there.

00:08:02.000 Well, whether that's a good idea or not, it's pretty clear that's going to be a politically difficult sell in the midterms.

00:08:08.000 And so you're stacking all these things on top of each other.

00:08:11.000 And what do they have to offer? 0.98

00:08:12.000 Basically, just that Democrats are evil and bad, which they are.

00:08:16.000 But people are going to vote for them if you are not offering a good alternative.

00:08:21.000 If you want to depress turnout in the midterms, keep doing the same thing.

00:08:26.000 Keep doing the exact same thing that you're doing right now.

00:08:30.000 Because right now, I'm looking at a situation where we have chapter presidents and they're tabling all over the country and they can't defend these actions. 0.99

00:08:38.000 They're getting approached by liberals that are calling out the hypocrisy of this garbage. 0.99

00:08:46.000 And guess what? 1.00

00:08:47.000 There's some truth to it.

00:08:49.000 Make it so that we have something to argue that actually holds weight.

00:08:52.000 Make it so that we have something to defend that actually is worth defending.

00:08:56.000 Because right now we're just getting failure theater.

00:08:58.000 We're getting no results.

00:09:00.000 We're getting nothing that makes sense.

00:09:02.000 Nothing at all.

00:09:05.000 So go back.

00:09:06.000 Go to work.

00:09:07.000 Go back to DC.

00:09:09.000 Show us you care.

00:09:10.000 Exhaust yourself on the floor.

00:09:12.000 Faint in the middle of the floor and at the middle of the speech because you've been doing it so long.

00:09:16.000 I don't care.

00:09:16.000 Do something.

00:09:18.000 Do something that we can defend.

00:09:20.000 Right now it's like Mike Lee and Eric Schmidt, and that's what we got.

00:09:24.000 So let's hit this, Blake.

00:09:26.000 We're not getting our domestic agenda passed.

00:09:29.000 And on top of that, it seems like, you know, we're marching into potential of boots on the ground.

00:09:37.000 Okay.

00:09:38.000 I want to get your thoughts on this in the audience.

00:09:40.000 Please email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:09:43.000 Blake's going to break down what the newest news is.

00:09:46.000 And I want to hear your thoughts.

00:09:48.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:09:51.000 We have obviously been, whatever, we're about a month in, maybe a little less.

00:09:55.000 And now we've got the 82nd Airborne mobilized, probably already there.

00:10:00.000 We've got some Marines being mobilized.

00:10:02.000 Now, Axios has a new report of up to 10,000 troops being mobilized.

00:10:06.000 10,000 additional troops.

00:10:07.000 All right, he's going to break it down.

00:10:09.000 I want to hear your thoughts.

00:10:10.000 Yeah, well, it's just, it's all, again, this is one of the toughest conflicts to cover because President Trump has an unusual negotiating style.

00:10:19.000 So he's constantly signaling he might escalate.

00:10:22.000 He might de-escalate.

00:10:24.000 Iran is difficult to read because a lot of their leaders are dead.

00:10:28.000 They're often, you know, running a double game.

00:10:31.000 And on top of that, you just have, you have different media operations.

00:10:34.000 It's very clear, for example, that Israel is more hawkish overall than President Trump is.

00:10:40.000 And so they want to egg him on to extend the war, escalate the war.

00:10:45.000 Others are trying to.

00:10:46.000 So there's all sorts of maneuvers going on.

00:10:48.000 And the truth is, we don't know exactly what the plan is.

00:10:51.000 But it does seem like, to be frank, we are taking steps towards a course of action that we warned about the very day that the first strike started in Bombay.

00:11:02.000 It was a Saturday and we talked about it here, which is at that time, it was a purely aerial campaign.

00:11:09.000 And we said we have to worry about whether you start getting into this pattern of steady step-by-step escalation where they say if you send in a few of these troops and take a few of these places, that's going to resolve it.

00:11:23.000 So now we're, it's almost everyone's talking, oh, they might take Carg Island, they might take these other islands.

00:11:28.000 But see, this is exactly how this happens.

00:11:31.000 Yes.

00:11:31.000 This is how you're the history buff here.

00:11:35.000 Do you see parallels?

00:11:36.000 And I'm not saying there are, but let's just, and I think this is a completely different situation.

00:11:40.000 I'm not saying what I'm about to say.

00:11:42.000 I'm just drawing a slight parallel.

00:11:44.000 Vietnam.

00:11:45.000 Vietnam.

00:11:46.000 It started with a few advisors.

00:11:48.000 And a few.

00:11:49.000 And a few.

00:11:50.000 And then it was eventually, I think we peaked at about 800,000 soldiers.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 And there was a draft.

00:11:55.000 It was.

00:11:57.000 We're not getting close to that.

00:11:58.000 But even to pick a more comparable one, Afghanistan.

00:12:01.000 Afghanistan started with no U.S. troops involved other than a handful of special forces.

00:12:05.000 They helped the Northern Alliance overthrow the Taliban.

00:12:09.000 It was basically air power and a few special forces, guys.

00:12:11.000 And then after that happened, this was 2001, 2002, we have that George W. Bush era.

00:12:17.000 Well, we have this obligation towards nation building.

00:12:19.000 So we start sending a few thousand soldiers.

00:12:22.000 Taliban's not defeated.

00:12:24.000 We're training them.

00:12:25.000 We're building schools.

00:12:27.000 And then by the time you get to Obama, they're selling this idea: well, we need a troop surge in Afghanistan.

00:12:32.000 And if we do a troop surge, that'll be able to get it in order.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, like we did in Iraq.

00:12:37.000 And it actually worked better in Iraq because it at least had a much more clear objective.

00:12:41.000 And, you know, it's a more urban society.

00:12:43.000 But in Afghanistan, they just kind of threw money at the problem, threw troops at the problem, but they didn't fix the fundamental issue of how do we define what's our objective?

00:12:52.000 What does victory actually look like?

00:12:54.000 How do we get there?

00:12:55.000 It was just sort of have troops there, get in fights with the Taliban, and hope it works out.

00:13:01.000 And what we have to worry about is there certainly are factions within our own government that would just love to see an Iraq-style conflict with Iran. 0.87

00:13:11.000 They won't say that, but they'd love to see it.

00:13:13.000 And what they'll sell to people is this line of, oh, you know, yeah, if you send a few troops here, that's going to make the regime collapse.

00:13:22.000 And when it doesn't, they'll, you know, it's like a heroin dealer.

00:13:26.000 And they'll say, one you're already populated, so you might as well see it all the way through.

00:13:31.000 So just do a little bit more.

00:13:33.000 And then just, oh, we're almost there.

00:13:35.000 We promise.

00:13:35.000 Just if you could add this little element here.

00:13:38.000 And this is why regime change in the Middle East is so fraught.

00:13:44.000 And I get it.

00:13:45.000 They want the people to rise up.

00:13:47.000 They want the marching in the streets.

00:13:48.000 I think that was kind of one of these indicators that helped lead to this escalation.

00:13:54.000 And I want to just give President Trump his due here.

00:13:57.000 He has not shown any indication through past operations to be into the idea of a long-drawn out quagmire.

00:14:07.000 He's not that kind of president.

00:14:09.000 We're getting indications earlier in the week that there was positivity, that this was going to be wrapping up soon.

00:14:16.000 But now we're getting indications it could be 10,000 more combat troops in the Middle East.

00:14:20.000 And we have this report from Reuters, exclusive.

00:14:23.000 Now it's Reuters, so take it with a grain of salt.

00:14:25.000 But I've been hearing similar things, so it's fascinating.

00:14:28.000 U.S. can only confirm about a third of Iran's missile arsenal is destroyed, sources say.

00:14:34.000 Well, that's problematic.

00:14:36.000 Now, maybe the answer to that is that the military has taken out a bunch of their ability to shoot said missiles.

00:14:43.000 So, okay.

00:14:44.000 So maybe that's a good thing.

00:14:45.000 The point is, I've been hearing similar rumors that there is stockpile left over that we don't know about.

00:14:53.000 All of this to say, we are creating the conditions where you got apparently gas in Los Angeles is over $8 a gallon.

00:15:03.000 Now, Los Angeles does some of this harm to themselves.

00:15:06.000 But what is it, like five in Phoenix right now?

00:15:09.000 It's about five bucks.

00:15:11.000 And yeah, there's places where it's higher, places where it's lower.

00:15:14.000 That's going to just be a drag.

00:15:16.000 If you want to hear about low numbers with Hispanics, that's going to be one of them. 1.00

00:15:20.000 All right.

00:15:21.000 That's going to be one of the driving factors here.

00:15:23.000 A year ago, if you wanted to lay out a situation for electoral disaster for the Republican Party, it would include open-ended, expensive war in the Middle East.

00:15:34.000 With few or little focus, ostensibly.

00:15:39.000 Now, there is things happening behind the scenes.

00:15:41.000 We're not trying to blackpill here.

00:15:42.000 There's a lot of good that has been done, but we're not talking about it enough because we've got a war in Iran, and now we might be sending ground troops.

00:15:50.000 The exact thing that we sort of promised the country was not going to happen under President Trump.

00:15:55.000 What's so sad is we actually genuinely have a lot to be proud of, domestic.

00:15:59.000 Totally.

00:15:59.000 In fact, constant new stuff.

00:16:00.000 It's like Texas has Texas isn't giving licenses to illegals.

00:16:03.000 We just denaturalizing.

00:16:04.000 We just denaturalized a couple of criminals and we're working on it.

00:16:07.000 We're denaturalizing citizens.

00:16:08.000 We're sending ICE agents to break up these companies that only employ illegals.

00:16:13.000 We've done great stuff on the border.

00:16:14.000 We're suing medical schools for fraud too much APIs.

00:16:18.000 They're actually doing tons of great stuff.

00:16:20.000 We're not going to be able to do that.

00:16:21.000 The focus will be on that if the focus is not overseas.

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00:17:33.000 Jonathan Cho is an absolute legend.

00:17:36.000 We love this guy.

00:17:36.000 He does great work out in the field and doing work for Turning Point USA, TPSA Frontlines reporter.

00:17:44.000 He's been working with Cam Higbee and a lot of others exposing fraud in California.

00:17:48.000 Jonathan Cho, you can find him at the Cho Show on X.

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00:17:53.000 He's doing, like I said, amazing work.

00:17:55.000 Welcome to the show.

00:17:56.000 Hey, guys.

00:17:56.000 How are you doing?

00:17:57.000 Doing great.

00:17:58.000 So you have been doing some investigative journalism, the real stuff, out in California.

00:18:05.000 Why don't you set the stage for us?

00:18:06.000 And we got a bunch of clips here.

00:18:08.000 Yeah, well, this has now been going on for two weeks.

00:18:11.000 It's a joint investigation with multiple independent journalists, including James O'Keefe, our own Savannah Hernandez, Brandon Dre, as well as muckrackers Anthony Rubin and Cam Higbee, as you mentioned.

00:18:24.000 And we've been essentially doing a swarm on LA's Skid Row.

00:18:28.000 This is a human dumping ground, homeless drug addicts.

00:18:32.000 And what we've essentially uncovered is that ballot petition gatherers are now paying these people on the streets for their signatures for all kinds of what we believe is voter fraud.

00:18:45.000 So let's go ahead and play one of these clips that you have provided, Cho, just because I think it's shocking when you see it actually play out.

00:18:54.000 I mean, this is real evidence.

00:18:55.000 SOT 10.

00:18:56.000 Registering people to vote in exchange for money.

00:18:59.000 Cam Higby and I went undercover and witnessed multiple instances of ballot initiative workers.

00:19:05.000 I want to get five bucks.

00:19:06.000 I heard I can get five bucks for paying cash to homeless drug addicts for their signatures.

00:19:12.000 A felony-level crime according to California law.

00:19:15.000 Every single homeless person on Skid Row that we asked is aware that this is happening.

00:19:19.000 But this guy took it to another level.

00:19:23.000 Are you registered to vote?

00:19:24.000 No.

00:19:24.000 He wanted us to sign these initiatives using other people's names and home addresses.

00:19:29.000 My name's John.

00:19:31.000 Don't you put that name?

00:19:32.000 Which is identity fraud.

00:19:33.000 Another felony.

00:19:34.000 Is this right, brother?

00:19:35.000 When I showed hesitation, listen to what he had to say.

00:19:41.000 Walk us through what was happening there, Jonathan Cho.

00:19:45.000 So as you can tell, Cam and I were essentially hanging around the corner of San Pedro and 7th and Skid Row.

00:19:53.000 And we see a group of guys with clipboards.

00:19:56.000 And on those clipboards are the ballot initiatives.

00:19:59.000 And they were intentionally targeting homeless drug addicts.

00:20:03.000 We walked up to them and out of nowhere, they say, hey, do you want to sign?

00:20:08.000 And, you know, I say, sure.

00:20:10.000 They asked me if I'm registered to vote because that's bare minimum requirement.

00:20:14.000 Clearly, I say no, but it didn't matter.

00:20:17.000 Instead, I proceed to try and sign my actual name.

00:20:20.000 I say, my name's John.

00:20:21.000 And they're like, no, no, no, no.

00:20:22.000 We don't want you to sign John.

00:20:24.000 And then he asked me, do you have a conscience?

00:20:26.000 Essentially, do you have a conscience?

00:20:28.000 What was happening was that not only were they having me sign this ballot initiative for money, they were having me sign under someone else's name.

00:20:37.000 So not only are the homeless drug addicts the victims here, there are actual victims of identity fraud.

00:20:43.000 So then you actually interviewed, it looks like a whistleblower that knows something about this, SAT9.

00:20:50.000 How do you decide whether somebody uses their name or somebody else's name?

00:20:54.000 Well, I asked some questions like, when are you registering to vote?

00:20:58.000 And if they remember something, like, okay, then I've like, I just let them go.

00:21:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:02.000 I let them sign.

00:21:02.000 But if they don't remember, are they from out of state?

00:21:05.000 The gang banger guys, they'll give us, you know, a list of names. 0.99

00:21:09.000 I'm not a list, but they write on a piece of paper or whatever.

00:21:12.000 And I just gave it some, you know.

00:21:16.000 So when they pull the people's names?

00:21:18.000 They get it from the registration office.

00:21:22.000 They pay a lot of money from the registration office directly.

00:21:25.000 Like the state?

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:26.000 Wow, really?

00:21:27.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:21:28.000 The registration office is corrupt as hell, but it's legal.

00:21:30.000 And so they can just pull, is it like a voter registration or a VMV or something? 0.87

00:21:33.000 Yeah, no, it's a voter registration office.

00:21:36.000 Oh, they get it right from the front.

00:21:38.000 Right straight from now.

00:21:40.000 Bro, this is crazy.

00:21:42.000 Like the level of organization and coordination, the fact that this is so many people seem to know about it.

00:21:48.000 We're just now finding out this is a thing.

00:21:50.000 Yeah, so many things going on over there in that whistleblower interview.

00:21:54.000 First of all, these bad actors are using the danger and risk of going into Skid Row as cover.

00:22:02.000 They know city and state officials aren't going to go in.

00:22:04.000 There's barely any law enforcement.

00:22:06.000 So again, they've been operating with total impunity.

00:22:09.000 So this has not been going on for just the last two weeks.

00:22:12.000 It's been going on for years, according to people on the ground.

00:22:15.000 That whistleblower was also alleging that there are Democrats involved in this, along with gangbangers.

00:22:22.000 I'm talking about local LA gangbangers.

00:22:24.000 And this is where it got really murky and sensitive.

00:22:26.000 He didn't want to name anything, any of the actual gangs or the people behind it, because he was afraid for his own safety and life.

00:22:34.000 He took an enormous risk talking to us.

00:22:37.000 At the same time, he's one of the few now that are starting to flip because he's had a crisis of conscience.

00:22:44.000 Because once we got the footage of all of this undercover signature gathering happening, you know, cash for ballots, he kind of started to realize he's in big trouble.

00:22:53.000 He's either going to get outed one way or the other.

00:22:56.000 So he might as well talk right now.

00:22:58.000 So he's led us, you know, to a lot of evidence.

00:23:01.000 We have a lot of this on camera.

00:23:02.000 So it's now really up to local officials and state officials, Governor Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Rob Bonta, to finally take action.

00:23:10.000 And they've said they've started an investigation, but we don't have any timelines for arrests or charges now.

00:23:16.000 Well, I think that that's a pattern we've seen over and over.

00:23:19.000 You can produce a lot of evidence.

00:23:21.000 And as long as it's in the state's hands, they can say, oh, it's under investigation.

00:23:24.000 And then you can just play it out, draw it out, and eventually nothing happens.

00:23:28.000 I mean, it's California.

00:23:29.000 They're professionals at this.

00:23:31.000 I can't, I'll be blunt.

00:23:32.000 I can't imagine that a system that organized with that many people in on it exists without them having pretty high confidence.

00:23:39.000 No one's ever going to do anything about it.

00:23:41.000 It's just like the hospice fraud that's happening a few miles to the north of Skid Row, where when you have 70 fraudulent hospices in a single building, they are operating with the assumption the state knows what we're doing and they don't care.

00:23:54.000 Yeah, that line total impunity stands out, Cho, because it just feels like the problems in this state are so huge and it's so vast and there's so many people corrupt and corrupted within the system that nobody's going to be held accountable is what it feels like.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, Blake Andrew, that's what we're concerned about.

00:24:14.000 This one-party rule controlling every aspect of this investigation.

00:24:19.000 And again, this has now been going on for two weeks.

00:24:21.000 James O'Keefe's crew and the rest of the independent journalists, we're calling ourselves the Citizen Justice League.

00:24:27.000 We're going to put out a video, a story every single day until someone gets arrested and we see charges.

00:24:35.000 But that's the concern right now.

00:24:37.000 How long is it going to take to actually bring somebody to account, even after presenting all of this evidence?

00:24:44.000 We got more footage here, so I want to play it.

00:24:47.000 This is a California Democrat lawmaker.

00:24:51.000 Let me just play the clip.

00:24:52.000 I don't know who's saying it.

00:24:53.000 11.

00:24:54.000 Our team immediately notified authorities, including Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Rob Bonto.

00:25:00.000 They do not have that authority.

00:25:02.000 They responded by saying this would be investigated.

00:25:04.000 These people are just continuing the cycle of harm and suffering on these people so they can manipulate them for political gain.

00:25:13.000 Yeah, and that stands out.

00:25:14.000 That's sort of been what I've been thinking this whole time is they're taking advantage of drug addicts, the mentally ill, the homeless, the impoverished, the desperate, and they're just using them in pawns in this sort of, like you said, one-party rule state to further entrench their own power.

00:25:29.000 So this is the big rub, right?

00:25:32.000 That you're asking California Democrats to investigate something that's not in their best interest to snuff out.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, this is happening.

00:25:41.000 And I don't know if you guys have personally been to Skid Row.

00:25:44.000 You guys have seen the images for years now.

00:25:47.000 Yeah, it's guys.

00:25:48.000 Then you know it's the entire area, again, as I refer to it as a human dumping ground.

00:25:53.000 It's also where all of the social service agencies, nonprofits funded by taxpayers are concentrated and based.

00:26:01.000 So all of this is happening right there.

00:26:04.000 And these nonprofits, what I call and refer to as Homeless Inc., they allegedly are supposed to be there to take care of these vulnerable men and women.

00:26:13.000 But my question is, how have they allowed this to go on for so many years now without sounding the alarm?

00:26:21.000 So it's not just the lawmakers here who need to be held to account or law enforcement, but we've got to be asking questions about the others in the area who I believe are in on this grift.

00:26:32.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:26:33.000 And I think you zoom out to the bigger picture.

00:26:36.000 We get a lot of emails from people asking, you know, can we save California?

00:26:40.000 And we would love if California could be saved.

00:26:43.000 But you really have to appreciate kind of the scale of the atrocity that they have enacted, which is to have, they have a blob of thousands, tens of thousands of people who are basically impossible to track, which they can use as a vote bank, as a fraud depository.

00:27:00.000 You know, you can dump $40 billion in homeless funding on them and it'll show no impact whatsoever.

00:27:06.000 Somebody's getting that money.

00:27:08.000 And they just have built this like perfect machine.

00:27:11.000 Meanwhile, if you check other headlines, I think they've stopped repaving roads in Los Angeles because that was proving too expensive.

00:27:21.000 You know, they'll dump $100 billion in that high-speed rail and that's never going to get built.

00:27:26.000 There's something really dark about it.

00:27:28.000 And I feel like it'll never get fixed unless the federal government were able to find a nice, sustained way to imprison a very large number of people there.

00:27:36.000 And I don't even know if this admin has the idea.

00:27:38.000 It's like $40 billion.

00:27:40.000 It's like however many billions that have been dumped into this homeless crisis, and it just persists.

00:27:45.000 It doesn't seem like there's any will to actually clean it up, remove them forcibly off the streets so that you can't be taking advantage of them like this, so that they don't live in squalor.

00:27:55.000 Do you see any indications, Jonathan Cho?

00:27:59.000 I mean, away from the fraud with the ballots and the cash rebouts, that people are actually being helped down there.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, look, the only saving grace here, quite frankly, is I think we've lost all faith in California officials, but the feds are aware, and so is the Trump administration.

00:28:15.000 They've acknowledged what's happening happening here.

00:28:17.000 They're aware of our investigation.

00:28:19.000 And I've also talked to my sources at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

00:28:23.000 They're the ones funding these homeless nonprofits, and they're scrutinizing, again, the money now.

00:28:29.000 It's all about the money trail.

00:28:30.000 Once that stops flowing into this area, I believe a lot of this fraud could stop as well.

00:28:35.000 That's encouraging.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, and Scott Turner's a great guy.

00:28:38.000 He's a fantastic man.

00:28:39.000 Jonathan Cho, TPOSA Frontlines, great job.

00:28:42.000 I'm excited to see this coalition of these journalists coming together.

00:28:47.000 And I know you guys have plans to do this repeatedly throughout the year.

00:28:50.000 So keep up the great work.

00:28:52.000 Jonathan Cho, TPOSA Frontlines.

00:28:54.000 Check him out on X at Cho Show, which is a great handle.

00:28:58.000 Thanks, Jonathan.

00:28:59.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:29:00.000 Thanks for amplifying this, guys.

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00:29:56.000 There's a new clip that I just saw from Marco Ruby that I want to get to.

00:30:00.000 And I see some House leadership slamming the Senate GOP on that DHS video.

00:30:06.000 So we're going to get to all of this.

00:30:08.000 But first, let's start with Sat 7.

00:30:11.000 And I want to get into this.

00:30:12.000 It's Joe Rogan.

00:30:14.000 And he doesn't mince his words here, Blake.

00:30:18.000 Sat 7.

00:30:19.000 The phrase, make America great again?

00:30:21.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:30:22.000 But that phrase sucks. 0.99

00:30:24.000 Here's the thing. 0.99

00:30:25.000 Like, first of all, America is great.

00:30:27.000 Make America greater?

00:30:29.000 I'm down. 0.99

00:30:30.000 But make America great again, and then it becomes a movement of a bunch of dorks because a lot of them are dorks. 0.99

00:30:36.000 A lot of them, these really weird, uninteresting, unintelligent people that have got something they cling to. 0.97

00:30:43.000 And there's a lot of people that are just real genuine patriots.

00:30:46.000 And they're all lumped into this one group. 0.96

00:30:48.000 And you got to accept the dorks too. 0.96

00:30:50.000 That. 0.93

00:30:52.000 Blake.

00:30:53.000 I mean, it's it was always possible that would happen.

00:30:58.000 President Trump built a very eclectic coalition to win in 2024, but it was not a coalition that really existed in the past.

00:31:07.000 This collision of podcast bros and crypto bros, crypto bros, tech bros, liberal.

00:31:15.000 Yeah, the tech, the tech right, the conventional conservatives, Christian right, some people coming in from racial groups that normally didn't join.

00:31:23.000 And a lot of them were getting on board with different problem, you know, for various promises that were made.

00:31:30.000 And if not all of those are delivered on, it's going to fracture apart.

00:31:34.000 And also, some of it's just going to be a reversion to the mean.

00:31:36.000 Joe Rogan was this Obama bro, Bernie bro years ago.

00:31:41.000 There's going to be some reversion to the mean.

00:31:44.000 These guys, it's a type of person who very quickly gets disillusioned with people or movements and attaches to the new system.

00:31:51.000 They will abandon you.

00:31:52.000 I mean, this is actually a really important point.

00:31:55.000 And we used to be way more heightened about this, by the way.

00:31:58.000 It's great to have his support when he has it, but he will, like, he's got no affiliation.

00:32:03.000 He's got no long loyalties.

00:32:05.000 He's got no devotion to this broader project, this broader movement.

00:32:09.000 And so, like, on the one hand, I'm not at all surprised.

00:32:12.000 But I think it is important to watch his evolution from, you know, actually endorsing President Trump in 2024, which he did it late, but listen, he did it. 0.94

00:32:21.000 It was noteworthy, to basically calling everybody a bunch of dorks.

00:32:26.000 And, you know, this is where I go back to our first segment. 0.87

00:32:26.000 Yeah. 0.87

00:32:30.000 If the Senate is not going to pass common sense stuff, if they're not going to fight, they're not going to fight as hard as unpaid activists in their local communities, then listen, man.

00:32:41.000 You're not giving us anything to defend this with.

00:32:44.000 Pass the Save America Act, pass DHS funding, or, you know, fight to the absolute brutal end to make sure it happens.

00:32:53.000 You're not giving the base anything to get up for.

00:32:57.000 And that's a problem.

00:32:58.000 And then you pile on top of everything this war in Iran.

00:33:03.000 Now, there's a clip from Rubio that just broke, so I want to play it.

00:33:06.000 And I think it's a good sign.

00:33:08.000 So I want to play it here.

00:33:09.000 SOT 16.

00:33:11.000 Just being sent to the Middle Eastern.

00:33:13.000 What role could they serve other than preparing the way for a potential Browns invasion? 0.93

00:33:18.000 And while you speak about several weeks, are you concerned that this could embroil the U.S. in the kind of prolonged conflict that President Trump came to office promising to avoid?

00:33:28.000 This is not going to be a prolonged conflict.

00:33:31.000 The objectives I've outlined to you, again, I repeat them because I see these reports.

00:33:34.000 It's like, are the users not clear on what objectives are?

00:33:37.000 We've been as clear as you can possibly be from the very first night of what the objectives of this mission are.

00:33:41.000 We're going to destroy their factories that make missiles and rockets and drones.

00:33:44.000 We're going to destroy their Navy. 0.96

00:33:46.000 We're going to destroy their Air Force.

00:33:48.000 And we are going to significantly destroy their missile launchers so they can never hide behind these things to get a nuclear weapon.

00:33:54.000 We can achieve, we are achieving all those objectives.

00:33:56.000 We are ahead of schedule on most of them.

00:33:59.000 So he says this is not going to be a prolonged conflict.

00:34:02.000 I think that's promising.

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 I think that's promising.

00:34:05.000 I'll take it.

00:34:06.000 And so we're holding them to that.

00:34:09.000 And again, I want to reiterate: President Trump has never given us any indication from past conflicts that he's at all interested in a prolonged quagmire forever war.

00:34:18.000 As a matter of fact, he was the original critic of the way that the neocons in the Bush era conducted these types of conflicts.

00:34:26.000 And so, like, listen, President Trump's earned a lot of trust, but we've lost trust can be lost.

00:34:36.000 And so, again, we're kind of doing a quick wrap-up of all the main stories here.

00:34:41.000 This is a Tom Emmer and Mike Johnson, whip Tom Emmer, are absolutely lambasting the Senate GOP for what they did last night.

00:34:52.000 SAT 17.

00:34:53.000 Well, actually, I'll start out with our speaker is very unhappy.

00:34:58.000 I'm not happy.

00:34:59.000 Our whole leadership group, what the Senate did was, frankly, not right.

00:35:05.000 We are going to make sure that border is funded.

00:35:09.000 This is about making sure that President Trump's number one promise was that the border was going to be secure.

00:35:17.000 He's accomplished with Republican leadership incredible things with the southern border.

00:35:21.000 It has never been as tight as it is right now.

00:35:24.000 But we are not going to allow these radical, anarchist, Marxist, socialist Democrats to literally stop or create an open border situation again like we experienced under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:35:38.000 And we're going to make sure that we continue to deport criminal, illegal aliens. 1.00

00:35:42.000 This is what Americans want.

00:35:45.000 Well, good for the House GOP.

00:35:47.000 I like to see them having some fight when the Senate is abdicating.

00:35:50.000 So that's a good sign.

00:35:51.000 And let's end this hour, Blake, on a clip from Charlie.

00:35:56.000 And sometimes, you know, even we need to hear it as well.

00:36:00.000 And this is CK saying kind of what I'm saying.

00:36:05.000 Obviously, he'll say it better about how Trump has earned some trust.

00:36:08.000 So let's focus on this and we'll get through it together.

00:36:12.000 SAD 18.

00:36:14.000 As I've said once, and I'll say again, President Trump has beyond earned our trust on all foreign affair issues.

00:36:21.000 He took out Solomoni.

00:36:23.000 He took out ISIS.

00:36:24.000 He has bombed the Houthis. 0.85

00:36:26.000 President Donald Trump has been a leader who is willing to use American military might where necessary, but not for prolonged conflicts.

00:36:37.000 He's not a nation builder guy.

00:36:38.000 He's not a let's change the population sentiment guy.

00:36:44.000 There's only one nation that Donald Trump wants to build, and that is America.

00:36:49.000 He wants to rebuild this country with infrastructure, a border, rising wages to get rid of inflation, mass deportations.

00:36:58.000 President Donald Trump is focused on pouring money back into America.

00:37:02.000 He's focused like a laser beam on that.

00:37:06.000 And President Trump has earned our trust on all things foreign affairs.

00:37:11.000 He's earned our trust.

00:37:13.000 And this is definitely the biggest test of that trust.

00:37:16.000 But if he can successfully navigate this to a conclusion, that will be the best vindication of that trust.

00:37:23.000 And this is, as you said, the biggest test.

00:37:25.000 The biggest test by far.

00:37:28.000 We're not trying to mislead the audience here.

00:37:30.000 Politics is not super difficult in the end.

00:37:32.000 It is deliver on your promises that you made to your voters and people.

00:37:37.000 And got you into office.

00:37:38.000 Get back to what you ran on and deliver on those things, and Republicans will be in a stronger position.

00:37:42.000 That's the lesson of this hour.

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00:38:45.000 We got Danny in studio.

00:38:46.000 Welcome.

00:38:47.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:38:48.000 Yep.

00:38:48.000 So it's our ask us anything hour.

00:38:51.000 So you get to be a part of the show.

00:38:53.000 Send us your thoughts, your questions, your concerns, all of the things.

00:38:59.000 But I want to read an email.

00:39:00.000 We asked you guys for your thoughts.

00:39:02.000 And we got one from somebody who is, I think, a really thoughtful email.

00:39:07.000 It says, as a MAGA voter and someone who voted for Trump three times, it's very disappointing to hear troops are heading to the Middle East.

00:39:14.000 It's hard not to think we're headed to a Bush 41 lie of read my lips.

00:39:19.000 My husband and I have three sons, two of draft age, one more to be in a year.

00:39:24.000 We have nephews of draft age.

00:39:26.000 I don't want to see one foot of an American soldier on their soil. 0.99

00:39:29.000 It breaks my heart to see families already having to welcome home their dead soldier in a flag-draped casket.

00:39:35.000 No Americans should be dying.

00:39:38.000 Trump is losing support on this.

00:39:39.000 We in the lower middle class have never yet felt the relief that he brags about time after time.

00:39:44.000 Low-info voters will remember this in November.

00:39:47.000 Trump needs to come down with a hammer on all the weak rhinos, U.S. oil companies price gouging us.

00:39:53.000 He needs to take this as seriously as he did the border, or he'll lose the Republican Party.

00:40:00.000 I saw a great post on X that just said there's policies, there are policies you can do that will have a damaging effect on the economy.

00:40:07.000 And the obvious one you could have done was real mass deportations would hurt the economy.

00:40:11.000 We've seen a ton of businesses, in the short run, of course, a ton of businesses have gotten so addicted to illegal labor, low-wage immigrant labor, that it is massively disruptive to pluck those people out from them. 0.99

00:40:24.000 And it would take them a while to adapt.

00:40:26.000 That would have an economic consequence, but the long-term benefit would be great.

00:40:30.000 And I think a lot of people are frustrated that we might get a similar level of economic disruption.

00:40:37.000 Maybe more.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, from a conflict that he didn't run on fighting, and no one was particularly excited for him to fight.

00:40:46.000 And that even right after it begins, you're stuck trying to win people over to it rather than getting the usual rally around the flag effect.

00:40:54.000 Every other war we've fought in my lifetime, certainly, Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, the involvements we had in Yugoslavia, and then fire wars, going way further back.

00:41:07.000 You know, yeah, Venezuela is similar, going way further back, Vietnam, Korea, World War II, World War I. Every war starts with a big surge of popular enthusiasm.

00:41:15.000 They're patriotic, rally behind the flag.

00:41:18.000 Our country's been wrong.

00:41:19.000 Let's go win. 0.82

00:41:20.000 And then if it's going badly, it depletes from there.

00:41:23.000 Or you just win and, you know, that never happened.

00:41:25.000 We even saw this in Ukraine, Candace, when we started funding Ukraine.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, Ukraine started off with, I think, 92% support for U.S. backing them, and then it declined from there.

00:41:34.000 Charlie was very lonely in thinking it was a bad idea to get involved, but now it's a much more 50-50 issue.

00:41:40.000 This is a rare conflict where it's starting as maybe 50-50, probably less.

00:41:45.000 And the only way you can win people over is to win it quickly and prove that it was a good idea and not expensive.

00:41:51.000 Correct.

00:41:51.000 If it drags on, it's going to be a very big anchor around the administration.

00:41:56.000 And we don't say that to be black pillars. 0.88

00:41:58.000 We don't say that to be doomers.

00:42:00.000 We say that because we care about success.

00:42:04.000 We want to win.

00:42:05.000 And there are people who are going to just sell this Saccharine narrative.

00:42:12.000 Everything's great.

00:42:12.000 Don't worry about it.

00:42:14.000 All the polls, their lies.

00:42:15.000 That is why we talk to young people.

00:42:17.000 That is why we ask for the emails.

00:42:19.000 You know, probably the thing in this email that you should be most concerned about is this line.

00:42:24.000 We in the lower middle class have never felt yet the relief he brags about time after time.

00:42:32.000 And to Blake's point, if you were going to take a big shot, if you were going to do something bold that you knew was going to be disruptive, why couldn't it have been just massively going after illegal aliens that are employed, right?

00:42:48.000 By the way, this is what's so interesting about the Cesar Chavez stuff.

00:42:51.000 We talked about this, I think, on Thought Crime.

00:42:53.000 You know, he's lifted up as this, you know, left-wing hero. 0.95

00:42:58.000 The truth is, Cesar Chavez, well, beyond being a pedophile and a rapist, which are obviously these are new revelations, but he would go through the state of California and his goons would literally beat up illegal immigrants. 0.95

00:43:11.000 You know why? 0.96

00:43:12.000 Because he thought that they lowered the wages of his union workers.

00:43:16.000 They lowered the wages of American workers.

00:43:21.000 So, you know, that was a disruptive thing.

00:43:25.000 We've known that business interests want their cheap labor. 0.86

00:43:29.000 Well, too bad you can't have it anymore.

00:43:31.000 Too bad that's going to be disruptive for the economy.

00:43:33.000 Too bad that's going to be disruptive for your business.

00:43:35.000 The long-term benefit outweighs the cost.

00:43:37.000 The American people voted for that kind of thing.

00:43:41.000 So if you're going to take a big swing, do it on the thing that's actually popular.

00:43:45.000 Do it on the thing that we could defend.

00:43:47.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 And we just, again, we say this.

00:43:51.000 Danny, you're the youngest one here.

00:43:53.000 You talk to young people the most.

00:43:55.000 You talk to our chapters.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, I'm telling you guys right now to all the boomers out there. 0.77

00:43:59.000 Not just boomers. 0.73

00:44:01.000 No disrespect.

00:44:02.000 It's the biggest disconnect is what the thing is.

00:44:06.000 There's full at different ends of the spectrum right now, especially on the war.

00:44:10.000 And there's a storm coming where they're just not going to vote.

00:44:14.000 They feel like no matter what party is involved, it doesn't matter.

00:44:17.000 We want to be clear.

00:44:18.000 There's a difference here.

00:44:19.000 This does not mean that the war itself is bad.

00:44:22.000 It does not mean that the war itself is unjustified.

00:44:25.000 But what we are warning is, regardless of whether the war is justified or not, whether it's a good idea or not, whether it's necessary or not, the war with the people who took President Trump over the hump in 24, it is unpopular with those marginal new members of the Trump coalition.

00:44:44.000 And a lot of them are leaving the coalition over that, are feeling discouraged over that.

00:44:48.000 And we have to recognize that, or we're going to walk into a political disaster.

00:44:53.000 You have to approach all political questions with clear eyes like that.

00:44:57.000 It's something Charlie always emphasized and was very good at.

00:44:59.000 Well, here's where it really becomes a red flag for me.

00:45:02.000 And I know we haven't taken any calls yet, and I'm sorry.

00:45:05.000 This email I thought was really thoughtful.

00:45:09.000 Our chapter leaders, we had Gabe Saint on from Wyoming, and he said something that I have not stopped thinking about since he came on the show.

00:45:18.000 And he said, when we're tabling, whether we're getting confronted from other conservatives or libs on campus about these items, they can't defend them.

00:45:30.000 And we are left in a position of, we are in limbo.

00:45:35.000 Listen, we love President Trump.

00:45:37.000 President Trump has done a great job on many fronts.

00:45:40.000 He started this rebellion against foreign adventurism.

00:45:45.000 He gets all the credit in the world for that.

00:45:47.000 He's not gotten us into forever wars and quagmires.

00:45:51.000 And so we're basically left in a position where we're just trusting that that's going to be the case here too, while also acknowledging Iran is the biggest challenge yet. 0.97

00:46:01.000 The ground troops is going to be the biggest challenge yet if those end up happening.

00:46:06.000 I don't know how to defend that because we didn't run on it.

00:46:11.000 I don't have a defense for it.

00:46:12.000 I don't know what to tell our kids at these chapters that are left to sort of make excuses for a policy action that nobody voted for.

00:46:22.000 So you got to give us something.

00:46:23.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:46:24.000 And to Danny's point, Danny's, you're young 20s.

00:46:28.000 He's talking to a lot of these kids, and they don't know what to say.

00:46:32.000 So when you have that type of dynamic emerging, give us something.

00:46:36.000 Explain something.

00:46:38.000 Have JD Vance go out on the podcast tour and defend this.

00:46:41.000 Have Marco Rubio go on the podcast tour and defend this.

00:46:45.000 Explain what's going on here because we're just all left to kind of hope and pray.

00:46:49.000 I mean, Danny, am I misrepresenting this?

00:46:51.000 No, no, not at all.

00:46:52.000 They're just, they're struggling to back any of what's going on right now, and they're looking for an answer.

00:46:58.000 And right now, they're not being given anything.

00:47:00.000 So something needs to change.

00:47:02.000 So we do this out of love because we want to see the coalition healthy.

00:47:05.000 We want to see people be able to defend what the administration is doing.

00:47:10.000 And we want to be successful in the midterms.

00:47:12.000 Democrats are unacceptable.

00:47:14.000 That has not even changed.

00:47:15.000 I saw that from Megan Kelly.

00:47:16.000 She's been a very big loud critic.

00:47:18.000 She was even saying, you got to vote Republican.

00:47:19.000 There's no other option.

00:47:20.000 But golly, man, you know, give us something.

00:47:23.000 Fight for the Save America.

00:47:25.000 Elizabeth, please unmute yourself and welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:47:29.000 Thanks for being a member.

00:47:30.000 Hi, Annie.

00:47:31.000 Hi, Angie.

00:47:32.000 Hi, Danny.

00:47:32.000 Hi, Blake.

00:47:33.000 How are you today?

00:47:34.000 Doing great.

00:47:36.000 I'm well, thank you.

00:47:36.000 How are you?

00:47:38.000 So I had an idea that I would hope would bring the youth vote back and also get us everything that we want.

00:47:44.000 With student loans, I didn't realize like the interest goes on forever and like you can make payments, it doesn't really affect the balance.

00:47:51.000 So I thought if Congress passed a bill where, for example, you took out $100,000 in loans, after you've paid $120,000 back, you're paid off.

00:48:03.000 Done.

00:48:04.000 And they can make it retroactive.

00:48:06.000 So it's not student loan forgiveness.

00:48:08.000 It's just that you never have to pay back more than 20% of what you've actually borrowed.

00:48:13.000 And we tie this to everything we've ever wanted.

00:48:17.000 Immigration reform, border funding, ICE funding, all of those executive orders from President Trump all tied in to this one option of we restructure the financing and make it retroactive for student loans.

00:48:31.000 And also it would bring in a youth vote, I would think.

00:48:34.000 And also it would help with like family information and buying homes.

00:48:37.000 What do you guys think of that?

00:48:39.000 Go ahead, Blake.

00:48:40.000 Well, so some of this does at least exist for some cases.

00:48:44.000 I don't know exactly what cases it exists for, but there is, for example, the pay-as-you-earn plan for federal student loans.

00:48:50.000 I think that's 20 years of on-time payments.

00:48:53.000 And it's like 10% of your discretionary income, which that means it excludes taxes and certain other things.

00:49:00.000 Healthcare.

00:49:01.000 Yeah.

00:49:01.000 And if you pay in consistently over that for 20 years, you can get loans forgiven.

00:49:05.000 So some of that does exist.

00:49:07.000 I do agree with you.

00:49:09.000 I would say your specific deal, the thing it would run into is you'd still probably need Democrats on board with it.

00:49:15.000 And Democrats, okay, they'll just never embrace immigration reform.

00:49:19.000 They are truly religiously fanatical.

00:49:21.000 But I doubt foreign criminals should come into the world. 1.00

00:49:23.000 But I do love what you're thinking about here, Elizabeth, because you're saying, what is the bone that we can throw to the Democrats?

00:49:30.000 Get everything we want.

00:49:31.000 They get something ostensibly that they want.

00:49:34.000 And therefore, if they're going to reject it, if they're going to block it, then they have to go on record blocking something that young people really like.

00:49:41.000 I love the creativity, and I'm going to think about it more.

00:49:44.000 But to Blake's point, I don't know that this is the silver bullet that we need, but it's creative.

00:49:51.000 And so I like the strategy.

00:49:53.000 And maybe there's a way to work something like this where they get something that they want, we get to claim credit for it, and we get a lot of things we want.

00:50:00.000 The big strategic picture to acknowledge, which you are correct to see, is that student loans are a huge problem in America, just the number of people who are on them, the scale of them.

00:50:09.000 They're a big problem in America.

00:50:11.000 And they are a wedge that the left uses to bring in young people.

00:50:16.000 That young people take on a ton of debt to go to school.

00:50:20.000 And it's a very imposing thing.

00:50:22.000 And it makes them very sympathetic towards this socialist nonsense that gets fed to them by huckster candidates like Zorhan Mamdani, AOC, and so on.

00:50:31.000 And we want to find ways to break that hold.

00:50:35.000 The other reason we'd want to break the student loan cartel, if you will, is this is what a big part of what's enriching colleges, which are basically left-wing organizations.

00:50:46.000 It's their giant reserve of jobs for left-wingers, spending for left-wingers, institutional power for the left.

00:50:54.000 And so we do want to find a way to change the way student loans work.

00:50:58.000 Well, the federal government broke student loans when they got involved in them, right?

00:51:02.000 So we work with YReFi that handles private student loans.

00:51:05.000 Well, a lot of the loans are now federal, right?

00:51:07.000 Which the College Cabal took as a blank check to just keep inflating tuition prices, building fancy buildings, stadiums.

00:51:15.000 Every year they would hike the max for how much you could take on.

00:51:18.000 The Trump administration, one of the accomplishments they've done quietly is they've stopped automatically increasing how much in loans you can take out.

00:51:26.000 And lo and behold, a bunch of schools are no longer hiking their tuition automatically.

00:51:30.000 Because it was a blank check.

00:51:31.000 It was a blank check for the college cabal.

00:51:32.000 And guess what we're doing when we do that?

00:51:34.000 You're empowering the very institutions that hate you and that are undermining the country.

00:51:39.000 So we need to stop doing that.

00:51:41.000 But I think in general, private student loans make a whole lot more sense than federal, and I'll explain why.

00:51:48.000 Private student loans, if you're a private entity, you have actual skin in the game that you have to make sure you get your money back.

00:51:55.000 Because why give a loan out if you're not going to get paid back?

00:51:57.000 That's the whole point of a loan is you make it back with interest and you make a profit on it.

00:52:02.000 If you are giving loans out for somebody that is not a good candidate to have a loan, that they're not going to make that money back, they're not going to be able to repay you, then you're not going to give that loan out.

00:52:12.000 That would have a forcing function effect across the college cabal to make sure that their degrees are worth it, that students are actually getting jobs on the other side of their degree process, that they get into a marketplace and they can actually make money.

00:52:27.000 And it would sort of weed out the terrible degrees.

00:52:30.000 Only the people with rich parents could afford the underwater basketball.

00:52:33.000 Yeah, I think in general, a big problem, a big source of problems for student loans is that they are basically anyone can claim an entitlement to them, whether they're studying anything useful, whether they are likely to be able to pay them off, whether the school they are going to is particularly good.

00:52:49.000 Basically, we have some standards for for-profit institutions, but for nonprofit institutions, there's very little expectation that a program be worth it.

00:52:58.000 And think about it.

00:53:00.000 But look, no, sorry.

00:53:02.000 So the whole thing is built.

00:53:04.000 Who is the biggest beneficiary?

00:53:05.000 The permanent beneficiary is always the colleges.

00:53:08.000 It's always their administrators, their staff.

00:53:11.000 The primary beneficiary is not aimed at being students.

00:53:14.000 And I think big reforms you'd want.

00:53:17.000 Yeah, some of that could be a pack on how much you have, a cap on how much you have to repay.

00:53:21.000 But the best reforms of all are we shouldn't give student loans unless there is a reasonable expectation this loan will be worth it.

00:53:28.000 And the other reform I'm a big fan of is we should shift towards a system where colleges are on the hook if a person who attends them on loans is unable to repay it.

00:53:38.000 Make a college effectively, whatever word you want to use, but make them co-sign a loan.

00:53:42.000 Make them co-sign the loan.

00:53:44.000 And yes, that student is the first person to repeat.

00:53:46.000 I love this idea.

00:53:47.000 But if they don't, the colleges repay.

00:53:49.000 You know why I love this idea?

00:53:51.000 Because it will also help with admissions.

00:53:53.000 They're not going to start, keep admitting people that they don't have a strong belief that that person is a good candidate for a degree, that they are qualified, that they are smart enough to get a good job that can actually pay that loan back.

00:54:04.000 Right now, they're getting all mixed up in this ideology.

00:54:07.000 Well, guess what?

00:54:07.000 Ideology gets thrown out the window when dollars and cents start not adding up.

00:54:12.000 So I love that.

00:54:13.000 And by the way, the whole reason the federal government got involved in the student loan process is because you could make an argument that this was good for the country.

00:54:20.000 Like we are doing a public good by ensuring more and more young people get college degrees.

00:54:26.000 Well, I'm not so sure that it is in the public interest to get more and more people educated beyond their intelligence or to get degrees that don't mean anything, that don't train them for anything.

00:54:36.000 So the whole system needs reform because it's broken and it's actually ending up in results that don't help the country.

00:54:43.000 And so I love that co-signing idea.

00:54:46.000 I think we should push that hard.

00:54:47.000 I don't know if young people will get the memo, but I just remember when I was coming, a lot of this came up when I was coming of age because, you know, they're like, well, Europeans, they give a free education.

00:54:57.000 And they all sit in school for 40 years and they have a youth unemployment rate of 25%.

00:55:02.000 And they're stagnant.

00:55:02.000 Exactly.

00:55:04.000 And they're still importing infinity immigrants from abroad to replace them. 0.99

00:55:07.000 So let's not be like Europe. 0.55

00:55:08.000 Let's not be like Europe. 0.58

00:55:10.000 No one wants to be like Europe.

00:55:10.000 I don't think that mirage has been successfully.

00:55:14.000 If the mirage has not been dispelled, go to East London.

00:55:18.000 Yep.

00:55:19.000 Elizabeth, thank you for calling in.

00:55:20.000 Hopefully we got to your question.

00:55:22.000 I love the way you're thinking.

00:55:23.000 It's strategic.

00:55:24.000 Get them a bone and we get everything we want.

00:55:28.000 And so I'm going to think on that more.

00:55:32.000 You know, we spend a lot of time on this show talking about culture, about why strong families matter, why values matter, why faith matters.

00:55:41.000 But here's something practical.

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00:56:44.000 Mary asks, what advice would you give young adults struggling to find the point of continuing to advocate and fight for what's right?

00:56:52.000 I am in the middle of a massive legal battle with the third largest healthcare group and medical school in my home state.

00:56:58.000 I guess that's kind of a big picture question.

00:57:00.000 Unfortunately, we can't get the details on that suit, but I do think the bigger question, how do you find the motivation to keep fighting when stuff is tough, is the thing a lot of people are asking.

00:57:12.000 That was a big theme of our first hour.

00:57:14.000 And maybe we can get that clip from Charlie because I know we've aired it before, but as Charlie would say, guys, we don't fight because we are likely to win.

00:57:24.000 Hopefully we'll win.

00:57:25.000 But the reason you fight is because it's the right thing to do.

00:57:27.000 You fight for your country because it is the right thing to do.

00:57:30.000 And you have to do that even if you know it's doomed.

00:57:34.000 Even if you know it will fail.

00:57:35.000 You have to fight for the right thing.

00:57:37.000 Yeah.

00:57:37.000 You know, you think back to like Churchill and World War II and the Blitz and how he rallied the troops.

00:57:44.000 I don't know.

00:57:45.000 We should pull that.

00:57:46.000 We should pull that famous Churchill clip because I think it's inspiring.

00:57:50.000 And I would also say that deeper than that, you know, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but to lose his soul?

00:57:57.000 And I was speaking with some folks at the Federalists.

00:57:59.000 That's why Molly Hemingway and Sean were in town yesterday.

00:58:04.000 And, you know, I talked about somebody asked a question, what's going to make the country good?

00:58:09.000 Do we need revival before the country can be restored fully?

00:58:13.000 And I would say, yes.

00:58:14.000 Ultimately, we fight because our faith compels us to, because our value set compels us to, as Blake was saying, and what Charlie was saying, is that you fight because it's the right thing to do.

00:58:24.000 Well, how do you know what the right thing to do is?

00:58:26.000 Well, you lean on your faith.

00:58:27.000 You lean on scripture.

00:58:28.000 You lean on the eternal things, the good, the true, the beautiful.

00:58:32.000 And I think without an anchoring in the eternal, without an anchoring in what God wants for this world, you know, we pray that the one prayer that Jesus taught us to pray was, you know, our Father, right?

00:58:47.000 May your kingdom come.

00:58:48.000 So we fight because we're trying to make earth more like heaven.

00:58:53.000 And so ultimately, how do you make that happen without providence and without us participating in some grand design from the Lord?

00:59:00.000 So I think the faith element is what keeps me going.

00:59:04.000 It keeps me going in all this after Charlie, we lost Charlie.

00:59:07.000 So to me, that's, you can't get through that question without that core element.

00:59:11.000 What do you think, Danny?

00:59:12.000 Yeah, I think just giving up in general is never the answer.

00:59:15.000 It's cringe, too.

00:59:16.000 For anything.

00:59:16.000 Yeah, it's lame.

00:59:18.000 Writers are lame.

00:59:18.000 Yeah, so why would you ever give up?

00:59:20.000 Why would you ever just stop fighting?

00:59:22.000 What's the point of that?

00:59:22.000 Like, when you're in the middle of the Romans 12, 12 says, Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer.

00:59:31.000 I'm sure there's probably some modern casual translation of the Bible that just says no quitting.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, the message.

00:59:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:40.000 Actually, I'm going to look up what the message says.

00:59:41.000 Oh, you should.

00:59:42.000 But I mean, I think that's well said, Danny. 0.99

00:59:44.000 Like, quitting is like for losers. 0.99

00:59:47.000 Oh, my gosh. 0.98

00:59:47.000 It's quitting bad. 0.98

00:59:48.000 Quitting it.

00:59:49.000 Oh, what does the message say?

00:59:50.000 Don't burn out.

00:59:51.000 Keep yourself fueled and aflame.

00:59:53.000 Be alert servants of the master, cheerfully expectant.

00:59:57.000 Don't quit in hard times.

00:59:58.000 Pray all the harder.

00:59:59.000 Help needy Christians be inventive in hospitality.

01:00:02.000 I think they merged 12 and 13 there because the message gets very blurry with its verses.

01:00:08.000 But nevertheless, even if it's in a bad Bible translation, the Bible is very clear.

01:00:13.000 You endure.

01:00:14.000 And if you think it's tough, if you think it's tough now because we lose legal challenges, we lose elections, we lose economic growth.

01:00:24.000 Remember, there are Christians who lost their lives.

01:00:26.000 They got eaten by lions in the Coliseum.

01:00:29.000 They got crucified by Roman officials, by pagans, by the Japanese. 0.91

01:00:36.000 There have been martyrs all around the world.

01:00:39.000 People have had to suffer far more than any of us, save Charlie, of course, will likely ever suffer for our faiths, for our values.

01:00:48.000 I've got a good verse for this, since you brought up the Bible verse.

01:00:52.000 Isaiah 40, 30 through 31.

01:00:54.000 I'll read the ESV.

01:00:56.000 Even youths shall faint and be weary, and young men shall fall exhausted.

01:01:01.000 But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength.

01:01:05.000 They shall mount up with wings like eagles.

01:01:08.000 They shall run and not be weary.

01:01:10.000 They shall walk and not faint.

01:01:13.000 So the key there is those who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength.

01:01:19.000 And in a lot of ways, this whole season that we're living through on the show, what we're living through with TPUSA, what we're living through when it comes to Iran, when we're living through the economic promises and all of this affordability stuff that we talk about, what you're living through, Mary, with your lawsuit, with this health care, sometimes you've got to wait on the Lord, and the waiting can be the hardest part.

01:01:42.000 That was a great question from Mary.

01:01:43.000 I think we have Christine next.

01:01:45.000 We'll read her question.

01:01:46.000 And we were told she left, but we still want to get to.

01:01:48.000 So Christine's subscriber question.

01:01:51.000 Andrew and Blake, you've said women want the marriage benefits, but not the authority, I assume, of the husband.

01:01:57.000 As a Christian wife, my husband has the final veto on finances, safety, future, and spiritual leadership, and it works great. 1.00

01:02:05.000 But as a counselor, I see far too many men who turn submission into domination.

01:02:12.000 What's your personal take on male authority in marriage?

01:02:15.000 Should this start in dating, and how does this help TPUSA students on campus?

01:02:20.000 You've got to take the lead on that one, Andrew.

01:02:22.000 All right.

01:02:24.000 So, yeah, I'm going to pull up this Bible verse here because it's important.

01:02:34.000 This comes from Ephesians 5, okay?

01:02:39.000 So, let's just read the scripture here then.

01:02:41.000 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

01:02:44.000 So, that's the first point.

01:02:45.000 It's not domination.

01:02:46.000 It's submit to one another.

01:02:48.000 Wives, submit to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 0.55

01:02:51.000 For the husband is the head, and the wife, as Christ, is the head of the church, his body of which he is the savior.

01:02:57.000 Now, as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 0.94

01:03:02.000 Here's the key, though, because you could stop there and it ends in a domination.

01:03:07.000 Husbands love your wives, just as Christ loved the church, and here's the key, and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

01:03:26.000 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies.

01:03:30.000 He who loves his wife loves himself.

01:03:32.000 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body just as Christ does the church, for we are members of his body.

01:03:39.000 For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.

01:03:45.000 Paul says this is a profound mystery.

01:03:48.000 So the point here is: yes, there is a divine order of things.

01:03:53.000 There is a way that God set things up that a wife should come under the headship of her husband. 0.95

01:04:00.000 That's what it says in the scripture.

01:04:02.000 Don't get mad at me.

01:04:03.000 This is what this is what it says in the word.

01:04:05.000 But the exchange is a profound mystery because the husband will then sacrifice himself, his own wants, his needs, his desires to serve his wife, to serve his family, to make his wife radiant and holy and good.

01:04:20.000 That's the key.

01:04:21.000 And when a wife trusts the good intentions, the good faith intentions of her husband, that he is doing everything in his leadership power and his authority power, in his headship power to serve his wife, to make her holy and radiant, then a beautiful mystery happens.

01:04:37.000 And the wife will not fight the husband. 0.97

01:04:39.000 The husband will not domineer over the wife.

01:04:41.000 They become one.

01:04:43.000 And so that's the key.

01:04:45.000 A lot of people take the submit to your husband's line and they subtract the next portion of that.

01:04:50.000 But it's a great burden upon men.

01:04:51.000 It's a beautiful servant relationship that you serve your wife.

01:04:56.000 And I think when you do that, when there's trust, a lot of that animosity goes out the window.

01:05:02.000 Like in my marriage, we don't even think about this stuff like in a conscious level.

01:05:07.000 We understand the principles of scripture and we try and honor that in our marriage.

01:05:11.000 But it's not like we're going around all the time being like, submit to me, woman.

01:05:15.000 I am the head.

01:05:16.000 No, that's not at all how it works.

01:05:18.000 As a matter of fact, my wife has amazing intuition and discernment, and I rely on her to help avoid pitfalls, to avoid mistakes.

01:05:25.000 And I trust her judgment on these things.

01:05:28.000 So it's very much a partnership.

01:05:30.000 I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on this.

01:05:33.000 Maybe from the Gen Z dating perspective, Daniel. 0.51

01:05:35.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:05:36.000 You go first.

01:05:37.000 Like, you can start.

01:05:38.000 Well, I was just saying, I don't, I don't like to do big opinions on this.

01:05:42.000 I'm not married.

01:05:43.000 It's sort of silly for me to say some people.

01:05:45.000 I know.

01:05:45.000 I have many friends who are married, some friends who are divorced.

01:05:49.000 And that's what happens when you age.

01:05:50.000 You see which ones make it and which don't.

01:05:53.000 But I think instead, what I turn to, I think a very good perspective on marriage was actually offered by Erica at Charlie's Memorial.

01:06:01.000 She very much wanted to talk about Charlie's attitude towards marriage, that his goal when he wanted to save young people wasn't just a religious revival.

01:06:12.000 He cared a lot about reviving the American family.

01:06:14.000 She said, if Charlie had entered politics, his number one priority would be a revival of the family.

01:06:20.000 And so she talks about what an ideal marriage looks like.

01:06:24.000 She used her own marriage with Charlie as an example.

01:06:26.000 We all saw it.

01:06:27.000 It was a very good marriage.

01:06:28.000 And it did involve that excellent, strong leadership from Charlie, definitely submission from Erica, but in that positive way, that your wife is your helpmate.

01:06:40.000 She is not your slave. 1.00

01:06:41.000 I think that is what she said.

01:06:43.000 And we have some CK clips.

01:06:46.000 Excellent.

01:06:46.000 We should play that.

01:06:47.000 I think we'll play that before the segment is out.

01:06:49.000 But that's one of those things where if you're going into it with the right attitude, certainly with an attitude of faith for one, it shouldn't be that difficult because it's almost like you should practically be competing with each other to see who can serve the other one better.

01:07:06.000 Like the wife is really going all out to show how much she can submit, which is how much of a great helpmate she can be to her husband, while the husband is going all out to show what an amazing provider he is for the spouse, an amazing servant leadership.

01:07:21.000 And if they're basically competing with each other on that front, I don't see how the marriage can really go badly.

01:07:28.000 And it's when you start turning marriage into a rivalry, when you start turning it into a power struggle, of course it's going to end up being toxic.

01:07:37.000 And distrust runs amok and so many other bad things.

01:07:41.000 Let's hear Charlie's words on this.

01:07:43.000 Sat 19.

01:07:45.000 This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative.

01:07:52.000 Engage in reality more and get outside of the abstract clouds.

01:07:56.000 Reject feminism.

01:07:58.000 Submit to your husband, Taylor.

01:08:00.000 You're not in charge.

01:08:02.000 And most importantly, I can't wait to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert.

01:08:10.000 I can't say it without laughing.

01:08:12.000 You got to change your name.

01:08:14.000 If not, you don't really mean it.

01:08:16.000 Congratulations, Taylor.

01:08:18.000 I forgot about that.

01:08:20.000 That went so great.

01:08:21.000 That was so excellent.

01:08:22.000 It was so right on, by the way.

01:08:23.000 You know, speaking of, did you know the guy who plays Jacob from those Twilight movies, Taylor Lautner?

01:08:31.000 He married someone also named Taylor, and she did change her last name.

01:08:34.000 So they're both Taylor Lautner.

01:08:35.000 And I guess they're having a baby, and they've hinted they're going to name the baby Taylor as well.

01:08:39.000 So it'll be Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautner with their baby Taylor Lautner.

01:08:42.000 That's a terrible idea.

01:08:43.000 Sat 20, more from CK on this.

01:08:45.000 Hello, TikTok.

01:08:46.000 Today's a very special day.

01:08:47.000 It is our four-year anniversary.

01:08:49.000 Four years.

01:08:50.000 Mary's my best friend.

01:08:52.000 What's your piece of advice after four years for all the TikTok people? 0.99

01:08:55.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:08:56.000 Love your husband well.

01:08:58.000 And get married.

01:09:00.000 Just get off your couch, stop watching all that terrible stuff, and go get married.

01:09:00.000 Yes.

01:09:06.000 Yes, that's right.

01:09:07.000 And go on that adventure.

01:09:08.000 It's the best thing ever.

01:09:10.000 And go get married.

01:09:11.000 It's amazing.

01:09:12.000 To the right person.

01:09:13.000 Happier than ever.

01:09:15.000 God bless you guys.

01:09:17.000 That selfie angle makes it look like Charlie is like three feet taller.

01:09:20.000 He was a giant.

01:09:21.000 He was a tall guy.

01:09:22.000 He was an Ephelim. 1.00

01:09:24.000 But that's why we had the Shaq chair here. 1.00

01:09:27.000 Like, legitimately, one of the things when people come into the studio and they always want to take pictures and stuff like that, I always tell them, you know, this was the cheapest chair option that we presented him because he was such a giant human.

01:09:38.000 So we had this, you know, it was a $1,000 chair and a $500 chair and all this stuff.

01:09:43.000 He was like, I don't like him.

01:09:44.000 He had back problems.

01:09:45.000 So he was like, I don't like it.

01:09:46.000 I don't like it.

01:09:47.000 So they ended up going with the Shaq chair. 1.00

01:09:49.000 It was like $150 at Target.

01:09:51.000 And he was like, this is the one, like, made for supersized people.

01:09:56.000 And I think we got it years ago.

01:09:57.000 It's even got like a little piece of the, what do you call it?

01:10:01.000 The vinyl is like has worn off because he used it so much.

01:10:05.000 And it just makes me love it all the more.

01:10:08.000 So yeah, Charlie was a giant person.

01:10:09.000 Every time we, by the way, you saw this too.

01:10:12.000 When we take him into public or whatever, people meet him for the first time.

01:10:15.000 People are like, you're way taller than I expected.

01:10:17.000 Yeah, he was a big guy.

01:10:18.000 Do we have another question?

01:10:19.000 We got three minutes left in this segment.

01:10:21.000 Yeah, all right.

01:10:22.000 Let's go to, I think, Ian is next.

01:10:25.000 Ian, if you're there, unmute yourself and what's your question?

01:10:28.000 Hey, guys, how are you doing?

01:10:29.000 We're doing great.

01:10:31.000 Hey, you kind of answered my first question with how do we talk about Trump, meaning the peace president.

01:10:36.000 So hopefully they give us something.

01:10:39.000 But I would like to know: how can Congress be the only people that can vote on their salary, leave their job, and also get paid when the company is shut down?

01:10:51.000 Because that sounds like a fantastic job.

01:10:53.000 And, you know, it just seems kind of crazy to me.

01:10:56.000 Why are we allowing this?

01:10:57.000 We're just sitting by and like treating them like celebrities.

01:11:02.000 Why is this changed like this?

01:11:04.000 When do they stop serving the people?

01:11:06.000 Oh, man, if you wanted to get that disaster.

01:11:11.000 Are you trying to trigger me into another angry ranting?

01:11:15.000 One of a kind of eccentric idea of mine is they're very frustrating.

01:11:21.000 They do like to vote themselves pay raises.

01:11:23.000 Although, in some ways, they don't get paid a ton.

01:11:25.000 One of my, and that's why they're always maneuvering to cash in as lobbyists after they leave office.

01:11:31.000 So many of them are looking to the next thing.

01:11:34.000 I have sometimes wondered, what if we, this would make people mad.

01:11:38.000 What if you did something like you said?

01:11:39.000 Actually, senators are paid a million dollars a year, but you are never allowed to work anything government adjacent as soon as you leave office.

01:11:47.000 Like, no lobbying nonsense.

01:11:50.000 In fact, you're banished from the DC area.

01:11:53.000 Just you have to, maybe you can't even, you can, you can never even make more than a million dollars a year once you leave office.

01:11:59.000 If the government shut down, you don't get paid down, you don't get paid.

01:12:03.000 Like, you, you attach more strings to it, and you have way stricter anti-bribery, anti-balanced.

01:12:09.000 How about this, too?

01:12:10.000 You incentivize them if they save money.

01:12:13.000 If they balance the budget, they all get another million dollars.

01:12:16.000 Oh, that would be.

01:12:17.000 As soon as you did that, we'd have a balanced budget.

01:12:19.000 Oh, right away.

01:12:20.000 And, but here's the thing: it has to be strings attached.

01:12:23.000 If you don't keep the government funded, no money.

01:12:27.000 You don't get it back.

01:12:28.000 It's not furloughed.

01:12:29.000 You don't get to make up for that lost money.

01:12:31.000 You're just out money.

01:12:33.000 I actually think this is a great idea.

01:12:35.000 Balance the budget, million-dollar bonus for all members of Congress.

01:12:39.000 And here's-I think that was more plausible when the deficit was $300 billion instead of $3 trillion.

01:12:45.000 They'd figure it out.

01:12:46.000 They'd figure it out.

01:12:46.000 A million-dollar bonus.

01:12:47.000 You want to see Somalians getting like, they'd be going after them. 1.00

01:12:50.000 No, listen.

01:12:52.000 This is actually, these are some good thoughts here.

01:12:54.000 I will say, to your point, though, Senator Kennedy did propose that budget amendment or that amendment on the floor, I think, basically saying, hey, we shouldn't get paid while the government is not fully funded.

01:13:06.000 So he tried, and then the Democrats, you know, spiked it.

01:13:10.000 And then the guy, I guess, who issued the motion ran out of the chamber. 0.99

01:13:14.000 Because he's a coward. 1.00

01:13:15.000 They're all cowards. 1.00

01:13:16.000 That's the problem with deliberative bodies. 1.00

01:13:18.000 They get to hide behind the rest of the team.

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01:14:21.000 We have Mick, who's up next.

01:14:23.000 Mick, unmute yourself.

01:14:25.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:14:28.000 Hey, thanks, guys.

01:14:28.000 Sorry I couldn't talk last week.

01:14:30.000 I would have summed like a prepiew peasant, Emperor Palpatine. 1.00

01:14:34.000 And I hate to saber rattle here, but everyone I talk to my age, and I'm 22 years old, they just do not care about Iran one way or another.

01:14:44.000 I mean, you could go in with a camera and say, all right, guys, here's the nukes.

01:14:48.000 They're building them.

01:14:49.000 And they still wouldn't care.

01:14:50.000 They'd be like, what are we doing at home?

01:14:52.000 And so could we name some of the names, some of those warmongers that are in the cabinet, in the administration?

01:15:00.000 I'm not sure if there's any in the cabinet, but I want to start a public pressure campaign so those individuals' names are out there.

01:15:10.000 And just we got to get this wrapped up.

01:15:14.000 Yeah, I totally agree.

01:15:15.000 I mean, listen, you're singing from the same song sheet here.

01:15:18.000 Yeah, it's the same thing.

01:15:19.000 I'm 23, so I'm basically the same age, and that's the exact same thing I'm hearing.

01:15:24.000 Well, not that they don't care.

01:15:25.000 They actually do care a lot and that they don't want us involved.

01:15:29.000 They don't care about being pro-war.

01:15:32.000 They care a lot that we shouldn't be there.

01:15:35.000 We need to get out.

01:15:36.000 And they're really turning on Trump.

01:15:38.000 Yeah.

01:15:39.000 Let's just be fair to Trump here, though, right?

01:15:41.000 President Trump has been very consistent on Iran throughout the years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

01:15:47.000 So it's one of those things.

01:15:49.000 I mean, even Charlie, you know, went around in 2024 and described President Trump as the peace president, no new wars, first president not to get us into another foreign conflict.

01:16:00.000 You know, for whatever reason, President Trump looked at the math, looked at the intel, and decided this was the time to strike.

01:16:07.000 You can disagree with it, but the truth is he has been consistent about Iran throughout the years.

01:16:12.000 This is the biggest test.

01:16:14.000 So who are those figures?

01:16:15.000 You want us to name names?

01:16:16.000 I mean, some of the notable ones would be like Mike Waltz.

01:16:20.000 It would be CIA Director John Radcliffe has said that the intel was there.

01:16:25.000 You know, some people point to Pete Hegseth.

01:16:28.000 I don't know that that's fair.

01:16:28.000 Pete's a good soldier.

01:16:30.000 The president has made the decision to go in, so Pete's going to do it the best he can.

01:16:33.000 A lot of finger pointing has gone on, gone to Bibi Netanyahu, who's not in the administration.

01:16:39.000 Obviously, he's the prime minister of Israel.

01:16:41.000 He's wanted to take out the Iranian threat in that region. 0.74

01:16:46.000 So we've got to just sort of be honest that I'm not a believer in that President Trump didn't have his own agency here.

01:16:52.000 He had his own agency.

01:16:53.000 He wanted to take this shot.

01:16:55.000 He thought it was the right time.

01:16:56.000 I think what we saw in Venezuela probably made a lot of the warmongers within the military-industrial complex and the intel community, whatever, sort of say, hey, we can do this and it can be really seamless and really clean.

01:17:10.000 I hope that ultimately proves to be right.

01:17:12.000 And I'll say what I've said before, that this could ultimately be the right foreign policy decision, national security decision, and it could be politically unpopular.

01:17:22.000 And that's a trade-off that a lot of us are very uncomfortable with, but that's where we are.

01:17:26.000 And what every young person that I've talked to, Gen Z, is they all thought Venezuela was awesome.

01:17:33.000 They were so behind it, even though it was still a military.

01:17:35.000 Oh, 100%.

01:17:36.000 Yeah, and that was more so because it was like a quick in-and-out thing.

01:17:39.000 Nobody died.

01:17:40.000 But they're on this new thing where we saw this yesterday when we were talking to him, where that if a single American dies in a conflict, they immediately go off that we should have never been in there in the first place.

01:17:52.000 And so they're kind of tying American deaths to whether or not they're not.

01:17:56.000 They're talking about Gen Z. 0.52

01:17:57.000 Yeah, Gen Z, of whether or not we should be going to war. 0.96

01:18:00.000 And so they're very against the Iran war right now.

01:18:03.000 And one of the main things is because they're mentioning that we've lost 13 soldiers.

01:18:07.000 And so that's why Venezuela was great because we didn't lose any.

01:18:10.000 So it's kind of a weird path that they're going down because you can't really have a country if you're not going to lose some soldiers at some point.

01:18:18.000 It's not reasonable.

01:18:19.000 You'd never have a country.

01:18:20.000 So there's a little bit of fine lining here where they're kind of just dooming to doom on some stuff.

01:18:25.000 Yeah, they just, there is some kvetching just to kvetch, right, as I would say.

01:18:29.000 But, you know, I would say the Venezuela strike was different as well because we have something called the Monroe Doctrine, right?

01:18:35.000 Where it's hemispheric dominance.

01:18:37.000 I think a lot of, you know, even people that are uncomfortable with this concept of American empire can get behind the fact that we're the big dog in the Western hemisphere and everybody needs to kind of like get in line.

01:18:47.000 I love that, to be honest.

01:18:48.000 I'm super into it.

01:18:50.000 And so, you know, you've blown up drug boats.

01:18:53.000 That was kind of rad too because these guys are bringing in poison to kill Americans and, you know, feed this black market of drugs and fentanyl and cocaine.

01:19:02.000 Bloved the drug boats. 0.98

01:19:03.000 Okay, fine.

01:19:05.000 Middle East, man, we've just got a lot of scar tissue there, and it's a way tougher sell.

01:19:10.000 And by the way, Iran is a huge country, huge.

01:19:13.000 And it's got a lot of different factions and a lot of different things going on there.

01:19:17.000 A lot of history, proud people.

01:19:19.000 I just hope that the people rise up.

01:19:20.000 And I think President Trump's right.

01:19:22.000 If they do it now, they're going to get mowed down.

01:19:24.000 But I do hope that that does end up happening.

01:19:27.000 They take their country back. 0.99

01:19:28.000 Blake, do you have any thoughts?

01:19:30.000 I mean, no, no, it's fine.

01:19:35.000 Who's next?

01:19:36.000 Yeah.

01:19:36.000 We have Anthony.

01:19:37.000 Anthony.

01:19:39.000 Welcome to the show.

01:19:41.000 Hi, guys.

01:19:42.000 Hey, what's going on?

01:19:44.000 Just got off a meeting.

01:19:46.000 That's why I emailed you guys my question earlier because I didn't know if I was going to get on.

01:19:49.000 Well, what's your question?

01:19:50.000 Yeah, good to have you.

01:19:53.000 Let me hold my email real quick so I remember as I sent it to you guys.

01:19:58.000 So basically, it's regarding how Democrats want to control things by putting bills on the floor in federal government and in certain states to control limit of movement, what you can do with energy, what you can install in buildings and houses.

01:20:13.000 And the reason I ask this is because now we're seeing, I think it's in Massachusetts, I said, this thing called the Move Act that will limit how much you can drive a day, a week, a month, a year.

01:20:24.000 Is there any way to stop this or kind of put the brakes on it?

01:20:28.000 Because, and I know it's at the state level, but is there a federal thing that can be done through EPA, Zeldin's department?

01:20:34.000 Because you're limiting the motion of freedom.

01:20:36.000 Sounds unconstitutional, actually.

01:20:39.000 But I don't know, Blake, do you have any?

01:20:40.000 I mean, I don't know the specifics of this law in general.

01:20:44.000 I just saw it pop up this week all over social media.

01:20:46.000 Yeah, in general, we do.

01:20:47.000 Yeah, like Massachusetts moves to limit miles people can drive because of climate change.

01:20:54.000 But I don't know if that like a strict rule or is it more of some they're trying to pass it as a bill.

01:20:59.000 And the only reason I ask this is because we all know like when California usually does something, the next blue state will do it, like Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and so on.

01:21:09.000 Like, this is kind of like you're stopping freedom here.

01:21:13.000 It sounds, I'm looking at it now.

01:21:14.000 It looks like it sets statewide goals, which, yeah, it's the left is very good at taking vague goals and then suddenly they somehow have legal force.

01:21:22.000 They're good at a thing that is difficult with the left, the left is generally better at decentralized action in the sense they really are almost like the Borg or the Hive mind.

01:21:34.000 Like memetic stuff gets out where they're suddenly all on the same page and they all get aligned and they don't necessarily even need to communicate with each other.

01:21:41.000 And so all of their judges are suddenly with the program, whether it's on open borders or on global warming or on race communism or everything.

01:21:52.000 And ideally, we could take steps to stop it.

01:21:55.000 But on the other hand, one of the best things that does protect us when the left inevitably has more power in this country is we do have a federalist system that allows red states to push back against this as well. 0.79

01:22:05.000 So to some extent, that's the double side of the coin in terms of blue states being able to, you know, destroy themselves. 0.63

01:22:13.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this sounds really unpopular.

01:22:16.000 It reminds me of that you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:22:18.000 Instead of fixing underlying problems, they just want to limit freedom, limit access, limit the size of your house, limit all these kind of things.

01:22:25.000 I think it's going to be wildly unpopular.

01:22:28.000 But Anthony, thank you for your question.

01:22:29.000 We will see you guys next week.

01:22:31.000 Have a great weekend.

01:22:35.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 27, 2026

California's Cash for Ballots Fraud Exposed + AMA 259

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