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00:02:42.000It's like you don't even, you don't even, it's like a different chapter of your life before you have a child.
00:02:46.000Getting married is, of course, the most important thing besides giving your life to Jesus Christ.
00:02:51.000I will say, though, that the transformation that occurs when you hold your child, you get exactly what I mean.
00:02:59.000And if you don't, then get married and have kids because it's good for you and good for society.
00:03:04.000But also, I mean, I will say this: it radicalizes me in the best possible ways.
00:03:11.000And I inherently have difficulty, and I pray for forgiveness over this for the kind of bitterness I have towards like the childless that are trying to ruin our society.
00:03:22.000People that don't have children and people that don't want us to have children.
00:03:26.000And they're telling you that we shouldn't have kids because of climate change or, you know, we should just have more abortions in our country.
00:03:33.000It's the greatest gift from the Lord to have children.
00:03:36.000And we should celebrate that every single day.
00:06:02.000It has to have transformation from within.
00:06:04.000But it needs to be expressed that Christianity is the only faith that expresses where the divine took the temporal form, not out of any sort of, the only explanation could be love.
00:06:15.000It's the greatest love story ever told, which is, and this is why John 1 is so incredibly important, and the book of John is transformational, because it is the clearest about Christ's divinity.
00:06:27.000Christ's divinity is expressed in all gospels, but it is by far the clearest in John, the seven I am statements, and then just John 1, that in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh.
00:06:39.000If you think about, the word in Greek is logos, and I'm sure Pastor John has walked you through this multiple times.
00:06:45.000But understanding what that meant in ancient Greek was that it was the idea that the universe has an infinite component to it.
00:06:56.000All of the stars, all of the constellations, the logos is the idea that we have gravity and physics, and it's the power that made that all come together from our DNA, from how you are perfectly and wonderfully made.
00:07:09.000The Greeks said the logos is the mind of the universe, if you will.
00:07:13.000The best way I could put it, is the designer.
00:07:16.000And what John says so clearly is that the logos then became human.
00:07:23.000And so let's contrast that with Buddhism.
00:07:25.000So in Buddhism, it is all about how dirty you as a human being are, and that you must shed your dirtiness as a human being to reach nirvana.
00:07:34.000If you talk to a true Buddhist, they think it is incomprehensible that the divine or the eternal would ever take human form.
00:07:44.000Like, why would the perfect ever become the dirty human?
00:07:48.000They said that we're supposed to become eternal by not talking and by, literally in Buddhism, not talking is one of the highest levels of climbing towards nirvana.
00:07:56.000And only the Buddha in their belief system did that.
00:08:16.000When Nicodemus is basically questioning Jesus, and this is where we get the idea of being born again, where Nicodemus is like, what do you mean, you're born again?
00:08:26.000Aren't you already, you're born once out of your mother's womb?
00:08:28.000And Jesus is like, no, you must be born both by water and spirit, water being baptism, spirit being by accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.
00:08:35.000And only those will then come into the kingdom of God.
00:08:37.000And Nicodemus is like, what are you talking about?
00:08:41.000And that's where we get the most famous verse in all of Christianity, for God so loved the world that he gave him one, his one only son, that whoever believe in him shall not perish, but he have eternal life.
00:08:49.000And the next verse that he did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world.
00:09:10.000And God sees all of humanity and he says, I love humanity so much, I'm going to give them one last eternal chance, and I'm going to take their form.
00:09:18.000Not just broadcast it on billboards and say, give all your money to me and all this, but I'm going to walk alongside of you and among you.
00:09:25.000And so Jesus Christ is the most important thing in my life, and it's transformed me from within.
00:09:30.000And I get the amazing opportunity to dialogue with people of all different faiths.
00:09:34.000And, you know, without picking on, you know, different religions, you know, let's just say like the New Age Eastern religions, they're always grappling with this idea of like, I have to strip myself of all the earthly things.
00:09:44.000And, you know, if I just kind of get my chakra right, then I'll be able to get to enlightenment.
00:09:50.000Like, you're thinking way too much about this.
00:09:58.000And then the Greeks had a word for this, which is metamufe, which is to metamorphosize you.
00:10:03.000And I know you guys have a men's conference coming up in Romans 12, 2, which is do not conform to the ways of this world, but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
00:10:10.000It's the same word, renewal or revitalization or metamorphosis, which metamorphosis we think of kind of a caterpillar into a butterfly.
00:10:18.000That's what happens with Jesus, is that you don't even remember who you once were.
00:10:21.000And then it's not that you don't sin, but for real Christians, you know what I mean?
00:10:25.000It's that when you sin, you feel differently.
00:10:28.000And that's my number one mark of how I know someone's an actual Christian.
00:10:31.000It's how do you feel, like let's, for example, you might have really been a big drinker, then you give your life to Christ, and then you try to be a big drinker again.
00:10:39.000You're like, you just feel like you're taking Jesus drinking along with you.
00:11:46.000They're looking for eternal hope, and only Jesus is that hope.
00:11:50.000And if I can bring just, you know, one person to Christ, I know there's one person I met earlier that was just an amazing testimonial, then it's a life well lived.
00:12:53.000This is now the number one narrative that will be pushed forward by a secular pagan regime to try to get the church not involved in politics.
00:13:05.000People that I grew up really respecting, I'm saddened by this, John.
00:13:08.000And people like Russell Moore, who I end up reading a lot of his stuff, he's going in movies saying that Christian nationalism is this huge threat.
00:13:14.000And he's partnering with Sagan, secular pagans.
00:13:18.000I was going to say satanic, but that's probably true too.
00:13:20.000But secular pagans and making these films, you know, warning and cautioning about the growing threat of Christian nationalism.
00:13:43.000Are you afraid of all the people that are lost that now have direction because of the church?
00:13:48.000And what they're really afraid of is they're terrified that the Christian church might unite its political power and might be the no against the regime.
00:13:58.000And it is the conscience of the nation.
00:14:01.000And so, you know, I get asked all the time, are you a Christian nationalist?
00:14:46.000The church being deemed non-essential?
00:14:49.000When strip clubs and marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores could remain open and the church has to close forcibly and Easter and Pentecost are taken from us?
00:14:58.000Or I don't know, they go after our children and they try to chemically castrate them against their will.
00:15:03.000Where's the, did you shout them out earlier, the ballot referendum?
00:15:24.000Seek or demand, it's the word badrash in Hebrew, the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:15:33.000It is a commandment from the Lord, as the prophet Jeremiah writes in the 29th book, that you need to care about your nation.
00:15:39.000Daniel fasted and prayed for his nation.
00:17:18.000Many people have not told you this before.
00:17:20.000There is a prayer in our founding documents.
00:17:22.000Oh, Charlie, don't you know the founding fathers were all secular?
00:17:25.000Well, okay, 55 out of 56 of the founding fathers were Bible-believing church attending Christians.
00:17:29.000But yes, maybe one of them was not, you know, a Christian.
00:17:33.000Not to mention nine out of 13 of the original colonies at the American founding had a requirement that you were a Bible-believing Christian, even serve in political office in nine out of 13 of those original colonies.
00:17:47.000However, going back out of that, what we want at this time is for the Constitution to be restored, the church to never be deemed non-essential again, for our children to be off limits, that the separation between adult and child is firm and is non-negotiable, and we will never waver on that.
00:18:04.000That the distinctions between male and female will never be blurred.
00:18:09.000And let me just reiterate what I said earlier.
00:18:11.000The biblical role for a Christian in the church is not to make politics your everything.
00:18:16.000It surprises my critics when I say that because they don't listen to what I say.
00:18:27.000Jesus needs to be the center of your church.
00:18:29.000But if you don't ever mention politics, if you don't ever mention what happens in your city, if you don't ever mention morality, you are failing your flock.
00:18:38.000And unfortunately, in today's time, the political band is growing and growing and growing because government is growing and growing and growing.
00:18:46.000So the threat to the church is growing.
00:18:48.000And are we going to be like the Christians in Nazi Germany that just sat idly by when the great horrors were continuing and the trains were bringing Jews to concentration camps?
00:18:57.000Well, we don't want to be political because of Romans 13.
00:19:00.000That's not who we as Christians are in this country.
00:19:03.000So they're going to try to silence us.
00:19:05.000They're going to try to make us seem as if you're bad or you're some sort of fascist because you want a restoration of the American promise.
00:19:16.000And I know the one thing that will unite us as a free society, which is a biblical society, is the Constitution and getting back to a constitutional republic.
00:19:30.000You know, being a church leader and serving in a local congregation here in a community, why do you suppose that some church leaders, and you touched on it, are hesitant to take a stand against this floodtide of evil that we see coming in?
00:19:46.000What is it that stops them from being more bold about these things?
00:20:14.000You're a courageous person, and it really is great.
00:20:20.000And again, I don't consider what I say to be controversial.
00:20:24.000The world considers it to be controversial.
00:20:27.000I consider what I say to be biblical and factual and reasonable and rational.
00:20:31.000But look, John, let's be honest, the vast majority of people that call themselves pastors are not actually pastors.
00:20:36.000And I know that's a controversial thing to say.
00:20:38.000I believe a pastor is someone that has full spectrum involvement in the ailes of the world to try to bring Christ and the truth of the scriptures to wherever it's needed.
00:20:47.000That means to youth ministry, to prison ministries, to marriage ministries, whatever it is.
00:20:51.000And that also means to the public square.
00:20:53.000They look at being a pastor as, you know, kind of a mixture between a motivational speaker and a TED Talk.
00:20:59.000And their churches have kind of become like, I don't know, five ways to improve your happiness with good coffee and organized parking.
00:21:07.000And again, I'm not trying to overly insult.
00:21:36.000On campus, if someone comes up to me and they say, I'm a Marxist atheist, I hold them to a much lower standard than someone who comes up to me and says, I'm a believer.
00:21:46.000When they say I'm a believer, I say, okay, now we're talking.
00:21:58.000I'll give you multiple biblical examples.
00:22:00.000The entire book of Titus is all about church governance.
00:22:03.000And if you're in the administration of the holy, you're held to a higher standard.
00:22:06.000Paul wrote extensively about those in the head of the church have different rules, different customs, different accountability measures.
00:22:13.000If you are going to be in charge of an ecclesia or a body, the entire book of Leviticus is about if you are a priest, if you are in the handling of the holy, different rules, different customs, different clothes, different garments.
00:22:25.000And so throughout the scriptures, it is screaming at us that if you're a pastor, it's just you're held to a higher standard.
00:22:31.000And let's go back to the Ten Commandments.
00:22:43.000But I believe it actually is deeper than that, and it's not reading into it exegetically.
00:22:47.000The word is do not carry the Lord's name in vain, which you could interpret that in a lot of different ways.
00:22:53.000It is not too far to say, and the original rabbis would say this back 2,000, 3,000 years ago, which is that if you are going to do evil in the name of God, that is one of the most, that is the unforgivable thing you do.
00:23:07.000And if you really wrestle with that, it makes sense.
00:23:11.000Because, for example, if every pastor was an adulterer, it would destroy the faith.
00:23:19.000If every single pastor, think about it, they pick one pastor out of a thousand, and it makes us all look bad, right?
00:23:39.000I'm a believer, and I love the word, okay?
00:23:40.000But when someone says they're a pastor, we immediately need to hold them to higher account because they're now telling you that I am a spokesperson, an interlocutor, a dare I say, mediator for the scriptures.
00:23:55.000But they say that I'm here to help you understand this.
00:23:58.000And if they say something is blasphemous and is heretical, that, well, we don't do politics around here.
00:24:04.000We just do the gospel, then I believe you're going to be judged for that kind of heresy.
00:24:11.000I don't think you should only talk about politics, but you're trying to tell me God is indifferent to the 1 million abortions happening in this country every single year?
00:24:19.000And that he wants his church just to kind of, you know, sit around and talk about how they read Live, Eat, and Pray, or whatever that silly book is that, you know, more women would know than men or whatever.
00:25:16.000But I'll throw it back to you, John, with this.
00:25:19.000If you're going to step into the arena right now at the very consequential times we're living in, the signs of the times all around us, and you're going to say, I'm a pastor, and you want that because of the lifestyle or the Instagram clicks, or you think that it's like a cool job, I highly recommend you get out of the arena because you're doing more harm than good.
00:25:41.000You know, I wonder as you, and just to kind of capitalize on that a little bit more, and I do agree with you.
00:25:45.000I think when you read through scripture, there were times when God would call prophets to confront kings and would put a word in their mouth, and it wasn't an easy word to deliver.
00:26:44.000Like, you know, it's not every week I'm going to open the Constitution to, I've opened the Bible, but if it comes up, you know, issues come up, we're going to talk about it.
00:28:28.000He's a well-known theologian, and he became a friend through the book because I thought the book was totally off the mark.
00:28:34.000And he said, one of the biggest problems is this rise of Christian nationalism.
00:28:38.000And the way he defines it, I actually tend to agree, if that was the term, which was like, okay, the nation comes more important than Jesus.
00:28:45.000And, you know, that, okay, I said, fine.
00:28:46.000But he thinks it's this widespread contagion.
00:30:30.000And that is what it means to lead the ecclesia in the public square, which is what church actually means in the original Greek.
00:30:38.000But the biggest problem right now in American Christianity, let's not fool ourselves, are pastors that do not dive into the current events.
00:30:46.000And better yet, they do not equip their flock to be able to read the news items and understand what does the Bible say about trans surgeries?
00:30:57.000What does the Bible say about immigration?
00:30:59.000What does the Bible say about politicians?
00:31:04.000Should we submit to government all the time?
00:31:06.000Is there ever a right time to rebel against government?
00:31:09.000And so what I have found is if the church, the flock, are not getting that kind of guidance from their church, they will go get it from a secular authority.
00:31:20.000And the tragedy of modern Christianity is you have millions of people going to church every single day, not being equipped with a biblical worldview.
00:31:29.000See, a biblical worldview, the best way I could put it is it is the color of which you see everything.
00:31:36.000So once you get a biblical worldview taught by a good pastor like Pastor John and so on and so forth, is then you see a news item on CNN, like, well, that doesn't harmonize with my worldview.
00:31:49.000And you're trained then in the ways, so you no longer need the pastor to guide you through every news item.
00:31:54.000And that kind of training takes time, and you have to spend time in the scriptures, and you have to read the Bible every day, and you have to listen to Christian music, and you have to pray to God, and you develop that.
00:32:04.000And for new Christians, it might take a year or two or three or four or five because you might still be looking at it through the secular old worldview.
00:32:10.000And sometimes you need to kind of get those muscles back into action because sometimes you might be falling into kind of a secular way of thinking.
00:32:17.000But so many pastors will then do something even worse than that, is they'll take a secular New Age worldview and bring it into the church.
00:32:52.000It means ignorant, stupid, you know, and like, you know, oh, that person's really nice, you know, like, and how it metamorphosized into what we, you know, mean now.
00:33:00.000Now, you're supposed to be called to be kind, loving, compassionate, compassionate, long-suffering, truthful.
00:33:21.000So you're trying to tell me that somebody's tone bothers you so much that you do not want Roe versus Wade to be repealed.
00:33:27.000Because if enough people thought the way you did in the 2016 presidential election with Hillary Clinton, we don't get Amy, Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch, and Roe versus Wade is still a law of the land, and we would not have hundreds of thousands of lives be saved.
00:33:39.000So praise God we didn't think that way.
00:33:42.000By the way, the embassy would never have been moved to Jerusalem and Israel.
00:34:18.000You've seen the films that expose what happened during the election, and it just fires you up even more.
00:34:24.000All the false narratives and all the fake things that come out.
00:34:27.000Charlie, I know on the minds of these freedom-loving people tonight is the election.
00:34:33.000We were talking tonight before about some of the things that are going on, and what you were sharing, and I was listening, I found encouraging.
00:34:41.000Talk about this upcoming election, how important this is, how critical this is, and what the church can be doing to make a difference.
00:34:49.000So, well, you know, so this doesn't happen again.
00:35:13.000But If your answer is no, I'm not going to fight if I don't get my way, then you are a summer, sunny, what they called in the sunshine patriot, not ready for the winter storm.
00:35:27.000And there were a lot of people, by the way, that were all on board for the American Revolution as long as it was 73 degrees and sunny.
00:35:33.000And as soon as they had to march through the winter and fight a smallpox epidemic, they said, forget this.
00:35:39.000You know, Liberty sounds nice, but I like the King George a lot.
00:37:30.000Don't know where he stands on trans stuff, Massachusetts liberal, climate change guy.
00:37:35.000Okay, you cannot vote for him, especially if you're a Bible-believing Christian.
00:37:39.000And I say this because he's pulling 16% of the vote, which is a very significant figure.
00:37:44.000So it's Trump v. Biden v. RFK versus Cornell West versus Jill Stein.
00:37:48.000Very similar to the 1992 presidential election when Bill Clinton ran against Herbert Walker Bush with Ross Perot, and the winning candidate got 43% of the vote, Bill Clinton, who became president for two terms.
00:38:00.000It's going to come down to a handful of states.
00:38:02.000It's going to come down to Arizona, Georgia, and either Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.
00:38:07.000So Georgia, the Biden campaign, is feeling, let's just say, continually very bad about Georgia, which is a good sign.
00:38:14.000They're very bearish on the state of Georgia, so they're pulling out of Georgia.
00:40:25.000Michigan, I would be very bearish on, but God works in mysterious ways.
00:40:32.000This Israel-Gaza war is really causing problems for the Democrats.
00:40:37.000If 100,000 Arab Muslims in Michigan decide to vote unaffiliated or not vote for the Democrat Party, Donald Trump could win the state of Michigan.
00:40:48.000He does very, very well in Michigan, especially with the muscular class, auto workers, Wayne County, Macomb County.
00:40:54.000He has a special attachment to the state of Michigan.
00:40:57.000So that's still a tougher shot, but more achievable than Pennsylvania.
00:41:02.000Then, in our opinion, it's all going to come down to Wisconsin.
00:41:05.000We think Wisconsin is the most winnable of those three.
00:41:08.000It has poor voting laws, but the best of the three voting laws, because election integrity, I don't know if you guys agree, is like my number one issue.
00:41:30.000So we went and we were successful, amongst other people, to get Ronna McRomney to resign from the RNC, and we were successful in that regard.
00:42:56.000It's going to be a very tough seven to eight months for those of us that are really involved in this.
00:43:02.000And make sure, I hope you guys understand this, and I think you do.
00:43:04.000This is a spiritual war, first and foremost.
00:43:07.000There are demons that are at work trying.
00:43:09.000The amount of asymmetric, Just say inexplicable nonsense that has happened to us and our team in the last 30 days.
00:43:20.000The only explanation is demonic and that from the occult.
00:43:24.000And we know it because we are on the cutting edge.
00:43:27.000We have the largest staff that is doing this.
00:43:29.000We have the most dedicated team, the hardest working people.
00:43:31.000We're go, go, go, almost no time off now till when ballots are counted in November.
00:43:37.000But, you know, we live for this, John.
00:43:39.000You know, the Lord has blessed us with an incredible platform with millions of followers.
00:43:43.000Over 300,000 people now give us money as small dollar donations, which is an amazing thing.
00:43:49.000And we've been saying for a long time, Lord, use us.
00:43:51.000Kind of our mantra for the 2024 year is Hanani, here I am, which is used seven times throughout the Old Testament, most famously, of course, with the binding of Isaac in the book of Genesis with Abraham and Isaac, but also with Moses when he sees the burning bush, here I am.
00:44:11.000Samuel, the call of Samuel, here I am.
00:44:47.000But if you believe in it and you feel the Lord leading, I'd encourage you to consider that.
00:44:52.000I think it'd be a real blessing, obviously, a great blessing what you're doing.
00:44:56.000I also want to say, you know, as we talk about coming down to voting, this is a question you and I dialogued a little bit about this before, but why do self-proclaiming Christians vote for candidates who are in opposition to a biblical worldview follow-up question?
00:45:12.000Can you be a Democrat and still hold Christian values?
00:45:18.000This is for Charlie, by the way, just so.
00:46:12.000So everything you do, from what you eat, for who you marry, everything, how you talk.
00:46:18.000And when you vote, it's not insignificant because as you vote, it is your communication saying, I as the sovereign are now giving you power.
00:47:12.000That alone should say, okay, you're a born-again Christian, and you're going to vote for the political party that sends a vice president to an abortion clinic.
00:47:21.000So let me just kind of go through three very simple, and I could go even deeper.
00:47:25.000I could go 10, I could go 20, I could go 30.
00:47:27.000But three irrefutable bulletproof contrast items between the Democrat Party and the Republican Party that are recent, they are biblical, and they are clear, and you can use them with your friends, okay?
00:47:39.000God created men and women, male and female.
00:47:43.000The Republican Party holds that as a core pillar of their party.
00:47:48.000The Democrat Party does not believe that.
00:47:51.000They believe that gender is infinite, that you could change your gender, and in fact, we should teach your children that, and that they can get irreversible damage done to them and pharmacological agents, and that the transgender craze, if you oppose it, you're a hater and that you are a terrible person.
00:48:12.000Number two, of course, the life issue.
00:48:15.000The Republican Party in the pillar of the platform is a pro-life party.
00:48:19.000Is a party more than times than not, the people you send to Congress, the people you send to the Senate, the people that you send to the presidency are fighting for the unborn.
00:48:27.000Are they as pro-life as I would like them to be?
00:48:36.000The Democrat Party celebrates abortion as if it is a moral good.
00:48:42.000Number three, the church can never be called non-essential again.
00:48:47.000The Democrat Party went around the country and locked down church after church after church.
00:48:54.000So those three things, the Republican Party was against lockdowns, was in favor of the church never being called non-essential.
00:49:00.000And so if you're a Christian and say, I am voting for the Democrat Party, you are then saying, I want a resurrection of the pagan God of Molech to come back to America, the pagan God of child sacrifice.
00:49:15.000And I know that might be too intense for some of you to hear.
00:49:18.000How is it any different than what the Aztecs did on the top of a temple when they drove a stake through a child's heart than what Planned Parenthood does every single day?
00:49:28.000How many abortions do you think there are in America every day?
00:49:30.000There are 3,000 abortions in America every single day.
00:49:35.000And we're just supposed to be indifferent, like, oh, you know, allow people to make whatever choices they want.
00:49:56.000And that's why you should stay engaged and stay involved at every single corner, every turn.
00:50:00.000And so, and the final thing I'll say, though, is just look at through the fruit.
00:50:05.000And this is a little bit of a deeper argument, but I think you'll resonate with this.
00:50:09.000Is that God is a God of stability, order, and distinction.
00:50:14.000Those are three, our God is a God of order, stability, and distinction.
00:50:19.000Satan, by definition, is an agent of chaos, deception, confusion, and turmoil.
00:50:26.000John 10, 10, the enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.
00:50:32.000I, Christ Jesus, have come to give life and life more abundantly.
00:50:36.000In the last four years of living under this Biden garbage, we have seen this country go in the direction of chaos, of tumult, of being upended from within.
00:50:51.000And so some people say, but Charlie, what do the Democrats want?
00:50:54.000They want full and complete destruction of the United States of America.
00:50:59.000They do not want you to live in a better tomorrow.
00:51:01.000They want to overwhelm the system and radically transform it, as Barack Obama said, is one of the last things he said before he got elected president.
00:51:09.000We are only a few days away from fundamentally transforming this country.
00:51:24.000That is why we call ourselves conservatives, because we have gratitude and love for this country that we did not build, but we inherited thanks to the grace and the glory of God.
00:54:43.000So we only have a couple minutes for this.
00:54:46.000Here's the best way I can answer that question.
00:54:48.000The biggest problem that young people are facing is they are the first generation to inherit a secular America and not a Christian America.
00:54:58.000And that is a, we could do a whole hour speech on that.
00:55:47.000And it was a, think about how ferocious of a propaganda campaign it was.
00:55:51.000It was movie after movie that portrayed Christians as hypocritical and they cheat on their wife and they're money grubbing and they're and you think about the archetype that was always painted in mass media and in culture and outside of the obvious moral failings of individuals let's talk about societally we now live in, the most young people, are the most depressed suicidal, alcohol addicted generation in history and they are the least religious generation in history.
00:56:21.000But I will close with this on this thought john, I do think it's starting to change and there was this profound moment and i've been tracking this and I know some of you may or may not listen to Joe Rogan.
00:56:34.000I I actually really like him and he, he there's been a big, there's been a big change in some of his public commentary recently.
00:56:41.000He recently had my friend James Lindsay on the program, who I think is amazing, and at the end of the podcast three-hour podcast my friend Patrice listened to it too.
00:57:15.000But all of a sudden, at the end James, the Joe Rogan, who is known as quote and like quote unquote, as like a cool guy, secular atheist, and James Lindsay, who used to be a leader, who again is one of my best friends, a leader of the new Atheist movement, he asks, James Lindsay, were you ever wrong about something?
00:57:34.000And James Lindsay said, you know, I was wrong thinking that religious people were all these kind of goofy, superstitious ones and that religion was just a bunch of fairy tales.
00:57:44.000And he's like, I don't think it's a good thing how secular this country has become.
00:57:48.000And Joe Rogan interjects and i'm paraphrasing, he's like, yeah, I agree.
00:57:51.000It's like we we, we need some sort of a moral center in this country.
00:57:55.000That's not them giving their life to the lord yet, but you're starting to see people who love truth realize the implications and the necessity of God in this culture, and I have found on campus that it is far more effective to argue the necessity of God's existence than anything else of what is going to replace God, God, if you're just going to, there's no such thing as an atheist.
00:59:54.000Obviously, we needed some adjustments to federal law against discrimination.
00:59:57.000But this kind of like whitewashing that our country was so evil and terrible in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, I think it's actually created a fake reality.
01:00:06.000And I think the smart young people want to go back to embrace tradition.
01:00:09.000They want to go back to that kind of country.
01:00:10.000They want to go back to the country of private property ownership and having kids and getting traditionally married and going to church and, you know, I don't know, opening doors for women and not believing men can give birth and not having to use pronouns in some sort of stupid HR terror Nazi campaign where they like indoctrinate you because you work for Goldman Sachs and you work, you know, use the wrong pronoun.
01:01:15.000Tomorrow I'll be on campus at San Diego State University and we'll probably draw seven, 800, 900 kids just passing by that want to have conversations and talk.
01:01:24.000The support is greater than you could ever imagine, everybody.
01:01:27.000And so to answer your question, John, we have a generation that is drowning in the excesses of secular paganism.
01:01:34.000And only Jesus Christ and Christianity is the answer.
01:01:37.000I pray we could throw them that lifeline.
01:02:25.000But since Mike Pence took the stage and he announced 15 days to sow the spread, it has been four years of, I feel as if we have been going like 95 miles an hour and like the engine is overheating, if that makes sense.
01:02:54.000You know, you have to wheelchair me there, okay?
01:02:57.000I'll take a sabbatical from the emergency room.
01:02:59.000Like, I am not, I have not, in my personal opinion, I've not done what I have done these last years out of obedience to God to sow into this to not see this fight through, right?
01:03:37.000You know, the Lord has blessed us with money, and he will continue to.
01:03:40.000That's really where we could use the biggest help.
01:03:42.000And then one other way that you guys can help is some of you guys are already there and following us on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.