The Charlie Kirk Show - Can a Church Be Too Political?

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00:00:43.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:41.000 Oh, what a blessing.

00:01:43.000 Thank you so much for coming, Charlie.

00:01:45.000 We're blessed to have you here.

00:01:46.000 And, you know, last time we were together, it was in 2020.

00:01:50.000 And we were there in San Juan.

00:01:52.000 And let's face it, a lot has happened since 2020.

00:01:56.000 And first of all, the last time we were together, you had just got married, but now you are a father.

00:02:03.000 And my question to you is: how has being a father changed your life and impacted the work that you're doing with Turning Point USA?

00:02:13.000 Well, thank you, John.

00:02:14.000 And how great is Pastor John, by the way?

00:02:15.000 Does he not do a great job?

00:02:17.000 I'll tell you.

00:02:18.000 And I love this church, and I can see you guys have big, big plans to keep on growing.

00:02:25.000 I remember the old spot you have, and I just love it.

00:02:28.000 I love this church.

00:02:29.000 And Michelle, you guys do such a great job.

00:02:31.000 And yeah, I mean, it's changed everything.

00:02:34.000 You know, the best way I could analogize it is it's kind of like the Old Testament and the New Testament of your life.

00:02:40.000 It's like BC and AD.

00:02:42.000 It's like you don't even, you don't even, it's like a different chapter of your life before you have a child.

00:02:46.000 Getting married is, of course, the most important thing besides giving your life to Jesus Christ.

00:02:51.000 I will say, though, that the transformation that occurs when you hold your child, you get exactly what I mean.

00:02:59.000 And if you don't, then get married and have kids because it's good for you and good for society.

00:03:04.000 But also, I mean, I will say this: it radicalizes me in the best possible ways.

00:03:11.000 And I inherently have difficulty, and I pray for forgiveness over this for the kind of bitterness I have towards like the childless that are trying to ruin our society. 1.00

00:03:22.000 People that don't have children and people that don't want us to have children.

00:03:26.000 And they're telling you that we shouldn't have kids because of climate change or, you know, we should just have more abortions in our country.

00:03:33.000 It's the greatest gift from the Lord to have children.

00:03:36.000 And we should celebrate that every single day.

00:03:41.000 It's not easy.

00:03:42.000 You worry about things you've never thought you'd worry about before.

00:03:45.000 And I mean, but you realize that life is not about you.

00:03:50.000 And that is the Christian calling: it's the unraveling of you. 1.00

00:03:54.000 And it's focusing on Christ and focusing on the cross, focusing on duty and obligation and obedience.

00:04:01.000 And you realize that you want to try to pass that down to somebody else or a different generation.

00:04:06.000 And then not as if I needed more urgency, but it created a, let's say, a higher level of a sense of urgency.

00:04:15.000 I was like, wow, we're handing down an increasingly awful place to live for my daughter.

00:04:20.000 We're destroying the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:04:23.000 We're doing it to ourselves.

00:04:25.000 And I'm not going to be able to look her in the eyes when she's 10 years old or 15 years old.

00:04:29.000 And she'll say, like, what was America like when we didn't have, you know, like all the different, you know, open borders?

00:04:35.000 Or what, did we just have a country that was considered to be great?

00:04:38.000 And I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

00:04:40.000 And I think you feel the same way because that's why we're in this fight.

00:04:45.000 We're in this fight for our children and, God willing, our grandchildren.

00:04:50.000 And so it's blessed Erica and I immeasurably.

00:04:53.000 And if you think you've seen Charlie Kirk work hard, we're going to a whole nother level.

00:04:58.000 That's what fatherhood does for you.

00:05:00.000 I love that.

00:05:02.000 You know, Charlie, I recently saw an interview that you had with Russell Brandt.

00:05:06.000 It's been seen by over a million people.

00:05:09.000 I mean, this thing is just, and he asked you a question, and I thought it was a great question.

00:05:12.000 And the way that you answered it was excellent.

00:05:16.000 Can you share about how important your relationship with Jesus Christ is as your Savior?

00:05:21.000 Yeah, I mean, it's everything.

00:05:23.000 And we must always keep our eyes focused on the cross.

00:05:25.000 And, you know, when I visit these college campuses, by the way, keep us in prayer.

00:05:29.000 Tomorrow, I'm going to San Diego State University for two events.

00:05:33.000 And so somebody recently said, Charlie, would you like to go on a mission trip for me?

00:05:40.000 I'm good.

00:05:41.000 I love the mission work.

00:05:43.000 I do my mission work here domestically on college campuses.

00:05:47.000 So when I go to San Diego State University, you know, they'll ask me, what makes Christianity different?

00:05:52.000 There's all these different religions, and who's to say that yours is correct or right? 1.00

00:05:56.000 And, you know, appealing to reason usually doesn't always work in that moment.

00:06:01.000 It has to be a soul thing.

00:06:02.000 It has to have transformation from within.

00:06:04.000 But it needs to be expressed that Christianity is the only faith that expresses where the divine took the temporal form, not out of any sort of, the only explanation could be love.

00:06:15.000 It's the greatest love story ever told, which is, and this is why John 1 is so incredibly important, and the book of John is transformational, because it is the clearest about Christ's divinity.

00:06:27.000 Christ's divinity is expressed in all gospels, but it is by far the clearest in John, the seven I am statements, and then just John 1, that in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh.

00:06:36.000 That is so deep and heavy.

00:06:39.000 If you think about, the word in Greek is logos, and I'm sure Pastor John has walked you through this multiple times.

00:06:45.000 But understanding what that meant in ancient Greek was that it was the idea that the universe has an infinite component to it.

00:06:56.000 All of the stars, all of the constellations, the logos is the idea that we have gravity and physics, and it's the power that made that all come together from our DNA, from how you are perfectly and wonderfully made.

00:07:09.000 The Greeks said the logos is the mind of the universe, if you will.

00:07:13.000 The best way I could put it, is the designer.

00:07:16.000 And what John says so clearly is that the logos then became human.

00:07:23.000 And so let's contrast that with Buddhism.

00:07:25.000 So in Buddhism, it is all about how dirty you as a human being are, and that you must shed your dirtiness as a human being to reach nirvana.

00:07:34.000 If you talk to a true Buddhist, they think it is incomprehensible that the divine or the eternal would ever take human form.

00:07:44.000 Like, why would the perfect ever become the dirty human?

00:07:47.000 They just, they don't get it.

00:07:48.000 They said that we're supposed to become eternal by not talking and by, literally in Buddhism, not talking is one of the highest levels of climbing towards nirvana.

00:07:56.000 And only the Buddha in their belief system did that.

00:07:59.000 Christianity flips it all over. 0.98

00:08:01.000 It's that God loved you so much that he took human form.

00:08:06.000 And that is a truth that resonates to all people.

00:08:11.000 And we were joking around about John 3 backstage.

00:08:15.000 But it's said right there.

00:08:16.000 When Nicodemus is basically questioning Jesus, and this is where we get the idea of being born again, where Nicodemus is like, what do you mean, you're born again?

00:08:26.000 Aren't you already, you're born once out of your mother's womb? 0.98

00:08:28.000 And Jesus is like, no, you must be born both by water and spirit, water being baptism, spirit being by accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:08:35.000 And only those will then come into the kingdom of God.

00:08:37.000 And Nicodemus is like, what are you talking about?

00:08:38.000 Like, God bless this guy, right?

00:08:39.000 He's trying to figure this out.

00:08:41.000 And that's where we get the most famous verse in all of Christianity, for God so loved the world that he gave him one, his one only son, that whoever believe in him shall not perish, but he have eternal life.

00:08:49.000 And the next verse that he did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world.

00:08:53.000 And so this is a rescue mission.

00:08:55.000 Understand that we are in peril because of our own broken, selfish nature.

00:08:59.000 God gave us the ability to choose, and we messed it up since the garden.

00:09:03.000 And we have not done very well since.

00:09:05.000 War, famine, destruction, disease, self-interest, murder, rape.

00:09:10.000 And God sees all of humanity and he says, I love humanity so much, I'm going to give them one last eternal chance, and I'm going to take their form.

00:09:18.000 Not just broadcast it on billboards and say, give all your money to me and all this, but I'm going to walk alongside of you and among you.

00:09:25.000 And so Jesus Christ is the most important thing in my life, and it's transformed me from within.

00:09:30.000 And I get the amazing opportunity to dialogue with people of all different faiths.

00:09:34.000 And, you know, without picking on, you know, different religions, you know, let's just say like the New Age Eastern religions, they're always grappling with this idea of like, I have to strip myself of all the earthly things. 0.55

00:09:44.000 And, you know, if I just kind of get my chakra right, then I'll be able to get to enlightenment.

00:09:50.000 Like, you're thinking way too much about this.

00:09:52.000 Like, this is Jesus is the answer.

00:09:54.000 That's it.

00:09:54.000 It's accepting Jesus into your soul.

00:09:56.000 That is the answer in your life.

00:09:58.000 And then the Greeks had a word for this, which is metamufe, which is to metamorphosize you.

00:10:03.000 And I know you guys have a men's conference coming up in Romans 12, 2, which is do not conform to the ways of this world, but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

00:10:10.000 It's the same word, renewal or revitalization or metamorphosis, which metamorphosis we think of kind of a caterpillar into a butterfly.

00:10:18.000 That's what happens with Jesus, is that you don't even remember who you once were.

00:10:21.000 And then it's not that you don't sin, but for real Christians, you know what I mean?

00:10:25.000 It's that when you sin, you feel differently.

00:10:28.000 And that's my number one mark of how I know someone's an actual Christian. 0.79

00:10:31.000 It's how do you feel, like let's, for example, you might have really been a big drinker, then you give your life to Christ, and then you try to be a big drinker again.

00:10:39.000 You're like, you just feel like you're taking Jesus drinking along with you.

00:10:41.000 Like you feel different?

00:10:43.000 You're like, it's not as if you don't do it, but you just have something almost that you're trying to reconcile with it.

00:10:49.000 That is fruit that you've been born new.

00:10:52.000 And we don't give our lives to Christ.

00:10:55.000 Or let me say this.

00:10:56.000 We don't do good things just to try to win favor with Christ.

00:10:58.000 And that's what makes everything so different in Christianity, is that other religions are trying to win points on the scoreboard. 0.98

00:11:04.000 It's a free gift right there for you.

00:11:06.000 And we don't do good things to get saved.

00:11:09.000 We do good things because we are saved.

00:11:11.000 It's completely different.

00:11:13.000 We do it out of an act of worship and celebration.

00:11:16.000 And I can say this.

00:11:18.000 I'm not an expert in world religions, but I am an expert in American paganism.

00:11:22.000 I am.

00:11:23.000 Because I fight it every single day.

00:11:25.000 And by the way, I love these pastors.

00:11:27.000 Like, I don't want to be political.

00:11:29.000 You don't realize we're fighting the pagan gods of the Old Testament every day.

00:11:33.000 We are fighting the pagan God of Molech. 1.00

00:11:36.000 We're fighting the pagan God of Jezebel. 1.00

00:11:38.000 We are fighting the pagan gods that God's chosen people were up against all the time. 1.00

00:11:43.000 When I go to these college campuses, they are broken.

00:11:45.000 They are suffering.

00:11:46.000 They're looking for eternal hope, and only Jesus is that hope.

00:11:50.000 And if I can bring just, you know, one person to Christ, I know there's one person I met earlier that was just an amazing testimonial, then it's a life well lived.

00:11:58.000 And you get life eternal.

00:12:00.000 It's the greatest thing you can give to other people.

00:12:02.000 And so praise God that we get the chance to know Jesus Christ.

00:12:05.000 And if you don't, you should make that decision here tonight.

00:12:07.000 It's the most important decision you can make.

00:12:08.000 There you go.

00:12:10.000 It's the best information you could have.

00:12:14.000 And I often say, listen, you can be conservative and still on your way to hell.

00:12:18.000 You need Christ.

00:12:19.000 You need to be born again.

00:12:20.000 That's what matters.

00:12:21.000 You know, Charlie, I want to talk for a moment, just talking about our involvement in the church.

00:12:28.000 And, you know, there's something lately that I've heard more.

00:12:33.000 It's some titles that get thrown around.

00:12:34.000 Some things that the church is being called.

00:12:36.000 It's the word Christian nationalist and dominionist.

00:12:41.000 Can you help us understand?

00:12:43.000 You can't get involved in anything civically because you're a Christian nationalist. 0.98

00:12:48.000 Can I break that down for us and help us to understand what is that about?

00:12:51.000 I'm so glad you bring this up, John.

00:12:53.000 This is now the number one narrative that will be pushed forward by a secular pagan regime to try to get the church not involved in politics.

00:13:02.000 They have now broadcasted it.

00:13:03.000 They've done a movie.

00:13:05.000 People that I grew up really respecting, I'm saddened by this, John.

00:13:08.000 And people like Russell Moore, who I end up reading a lot of his stuff, he's going in movies saying that Christian nationalism is this huge threat.

00:13:14.000 And he's partnering with Sagan, secular pagans.

00:13:18.000 I was going to say satanic, but that's probably true too. 0.94

00:13:20.000 But secular pagans and making these films, you know, warning and cautioning about the growing threat of Christian nationalism. 0.80

00:13:27.000 And I always joke around.

00:13:28.000 I said, I've spoken with over 150 churches across the country.

00:13:32.000 Like, what exactly are you afraid of?

00:13:35.000 Are you afraid of all the poor people that they're helping?

00:13:38.000 Or all the hungry people that they're feeding?

00:13:40.000 Or all the marriages that they're saving?

00:13:43.000 Right?

00:13:43.000 Are you afraid of all the people that are lost that now have direction because of the church?

00:13:48.000 And what they're really afraid of is they're terrified that the Christian church might unite its political power and might be the no against the regime.

00:13:58.000 And it is the conscience of the nation.

00:14:01.000 And so, you know, I get asked all the time, are you a Christian nationalist?

00:14:05.000 And I say, I don't like that term.

00:14:07.000 I am a Christian and I am a nationalist.

00:14:07.000 I don't.

00:14:09.000 So I'm not afraid of that.

00:14:10.000 But what you're trying to do is you're trying to call me a Nazi.

00:14:13.000 Okay, so let's just be as I'm a blunt guy, if you don't know that.

00:14:16.000 You're trying to call me a Nazi.

00:14:19.000 And so I find that to be reprehensible and repulsive.

00:14:22.000 I want a restoration of the Constitution.

00:14:24.000 And that's what you want too.

00:14:26.000 I want, I'm a constitutionalist.

00:14:28.000 I'm a Bible-believing Christian constitutionalist.

00:14:31.000 You know who else was?

00:14:32.000 James Madison and George Washington and John Jay and Alexander Hamilton.

00:14:36.000 If I went around to everyone in this room, if I said, if we can restore the promise of the Constitution, would you be happy?

00:14:41.000 You'd say, absolutely.

00:14:43.000 And the bad guys say, well, what are you so afraid of?

00:14:45.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:14:46.000 The church being deemed non-essential?

00:14:49.000 When strip clubs and marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores could remain open and the church has to close forcibly and Easter and Pentecost are taken from us?

00:14:58.000 Or I don't know, they go after our children and they try to chemically castrate them against their will.

00:15:03.000 Where's the, did you shout them out earlier, the ballot referendum?

00:15:07.000 That's so important, by the way.

00:15:08.000 Everyone's got a side in that ballot referendum.

00:15:09.000 It's incredibly important here.

00:15:11.000 And so I go back to the Bible and to scripture for all authority and for all guidance.

00:15:17.000 If it's not in the Bible, then we got a problem.

00:15:20.000 Okay?

00:15:21.000 So let's go to a couple of verses.

00:15:22.000 Jeremiah 29, 7.

00:15:24.000 Seek or demand, it's the word badrash in Hebrew, the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare. 0.89

00:15:33.000 It is a commandment from the Lord, as the prophet Jeremiah writes in the 29th book, that you need to care about your nation.

00:15:39.000 Daniel fasted and prayed for his nation.

00:15:42.000 Esther cared for her nation.

00:15:43.000 Mordecai cared for his nation. 0.92

00:15:46.000 Jeremiah, not to mention Elijah, who didn't just care about his nation.

00:15:51.000 He confronted King Ahab and was like, let's throw this down on Mount Carmel and see who the real God actually is. 0.89

00:15:59.000 They would call him, Elijah, you're being too political.

00:16:02.000 Elijah, how dare you confront the pagan forces? 0.98

00:16:05.000 Why don't you just preach the gospel, Elijah?

00:16:08.000 Why are you trying to throw it down on Mount Carmel?

00:16:10.000 You're too confrontational.

00:16:11.000 He did even more than that, if you could check it out.

00:16:13.000 I think you guys are studying 1 Kings.

00:16:15.000 You'll get to that pretty soon.

00:16:17.000 It wasn't politically correct.

00:16:19.000 But they're using this as a way to try to make you feel radical and afraid.

00:16:23.000 You must reject the premise in that sense.

00:16:26.000 Kind of laugh at it and scoff at it and say, oh, you think I'm a Christian nationalist?

00:16:31.000 Well, you're a pagan globalist.

00:16:33.000 It's interesting. 0.93

00:16:36.000 You worship the fake pagan gods of child sacrifice and of child mutilation. 0.98

00:16:41.000 You worship at the golden calf of money and pride and fame and social acceptance.

00:16:46.000 Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.

00:16:48.000 And I want a restoration of what unites all different tribes of this country-believing tribes and non-believing tribes. 0.95

00:16:56.000 One thing that we can all agree on is that the promise of the Declaration and the Constitution is one that is biblical.

00:17:02.000 It is based largely and primarily on the book of Deuteronomy.

00:17:05.000 It is one that is eternal.

00:17:06.000 It hearkens back to even the supreme judge of the world, which you know in Revelation is Jesus Christ, who sits on the throne and judges.

00:17:13.000 You read the last paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

00:17:17.000 It is a prayer.

00:17:18.000 Many people have not told you this before.

00:17:20.000 There is a prayer in our founding documents.

00:17:22.000 Oh, Charlie, don't you know the founding fathers were all secular?

00:17:25.000 Well, okay, 55 out of 56 of the founding fathers were Bible-believing church attending Christians.

00:17:29.000 But yes, maybe one of them was not, you know, a Christian.

00:17:33.000 Not to mention nine out of 13 of the original colonies at the American founding had a requirement that you were a Bible-believing Christian, even serve in political office in nine out of 13 of those original colonies.

00:17:47.000 However, going back out of that, what we want at this time is for the Constitution to be restored, the church to never be deemed non-essential again, for our children to be off limits, that the separation between adult and child is firm and is non-negotiable, and we will never waver on that.

00:18:04.000 That the distinctions between male and female will never be blurred.

00:18:09.000 And let me just reiterate what I said earlier.

00:18:11.000 The biblical role for a Christian in the church is not to make politics your everything.

00:18:16.000 It surprises my critics when I say that because they don't listen to what I say.

00:18:20.000 They put words in my mouth.

00:18:21.000 I have never said that politics should be the only business of the church.

00:18:25.000 I said you should care about it.

00:18:27.000 Jesus needs to be the center of your church.

00:18:29.000 But if you don't ever mention politics, if you don't ever mention what happens in your city, if you don't ever mention morality, you are failing your flock.

00:18:38.000 And unfortunately, in today's time, the political band is growing and growing and growing because government is growing and growing and growing.

00:18:46.000 So the threat to the church is growing.

00:18:48.000 And are we going to be like the Christians in Nazi Germany that just sat idly by when the great horrors were continuing and the trains were bringing Jews to concentration camps?

00:18:57.000 Well, we don't want to be political because of Romans 13.

00:19:00.000 That's not who we as Christians are in this country.

00:19:03.000 So they're going to try to silence us.

00:19:05.000 They're going to try to make us seem as if you're bad or you're some sort of fascist because you want a restoration of the American promise.

00:19:12.000 Reject the premise.

00:19:14.000 Keep scripture as the core.

00:19:16.000 And I know the one thing that will unite us as a free society, which is a biblical society, is the Constitution and getting back to a constitutional republic.

00:19:24.000 Love it.

00:19:25.000 Great word.

00:19:30.000 You know, being a church leader and serving in a local congregation here in a community, why do you suppose that some church leaders, and you touched on it, are hesitant to take a stand against this floodtide of evil that we see coming in?

00:19:46.000 What is it that stops them from being more bold about these things?

00:19:52.000 John, I have to brag on you.

00:19:53.000 I'm very touched that you would continue to have me back to this church.

00:19:56.000 It's not a joke.

00:19:57.000 I mean, there are pastors that have to resign because they get found out that they're fans of Turning Point and Charlie Kirk.

00:20:04.000 There's one pastor in particular in Kansas.

00:20:07.000 He was fired because he wanted to screen, you know, Letter to the American Church, one of the movies that we did here.

00:20:12.000 So I want to applaud you, John.

00:20:14.000 You're a courageous person, and it really is great.

00:20:20.000 And again, I don't consider what I say to be controversial.

00:20:24.000 The world considers it to be controversial.

00:20:27.000 I consider what I say to be biblical and factual and reasonable and rational.

00:20:31.000 But look, John, let's be honest, the vast majority of people that call themselves pastors are not actually pastors.

00:20:36.000 And I know that's a controversial thing to say.

00:20:38.000 I believe a pastor is someone that has full spectrum involvement in the ailes of the world to try to bring Christ and the truth of the scriptures to wherever it's needed.

00:20:47.000 That means to youth ministry, to prison ministries, to marriage ministries, whatever it is.

00:20:51.000 And that also means to the public square.

00:20:53.000 They look at being a pastor as, you know, kind of a mixture between a motivational speaker and a TED Talk.

00:20:59.000 And their churches have kind of become like, I don't know, five ways to improve your happiness with good coffee and organized parking.

00:21:07.000 And again, I'm not trying to overly insult.

00:21:11.000 I'm trying to be more.

00:21:12.000 I get these emails from these sweet people.

00:21:14.000 Charlie, you shouldn't pick on pastors so much.

00:21:17.000 I'll be honest, guys.

00:21:18.000 I mean, this is where I disagree with it.

00:21:21.000 I have three different things of how I hold you to account.

00:21:26.000 And the word judgment gets thrown around a lot.

00:21:28.000 We are supposed to judge within the body, just so we're clear, okay?

00:21:31.000 The world I have a lot of, I have a heart for the lost.

00:21:35.000 But here's the thing.

00:21:36.000 On campus, if someone comes up to me and they say, I'm a Marxist atheist, I hold them to a much lower standard than someone who comes up to me and says, I'm a believer.

00:21:46.000 When they say I'm a believer, I say, okay, now we're talking.

00:21:49.000 And here's one of the reasons why.

00:21:52.000 And then the third is that, then if you say you're a pastor, you're at a much, much, much higher standard.

00:21:57.000 And don't take my word for it.

00:21:58.000 I'll give you multiple biblical examples.

00:22:00.000 The entire book of Titus is all about church governance.

00:22:03.000 And if you're in the administration of the holy, you're held to a higher standard.

00:22:06.000 Paul wrote extensively about those in the head of the church have different rules, different customs, different accountability measures.

00:22:13.000 If you are going to be in charge of an ecclesia or a body, the entire book of Leviticus is about if you are a priest, if you are in the handling of the holy, different rules, different customs, different clothes, different garments.

00:22:25.000 And so throughout the scriptures, it is screaming at us that if you're a pastor, it's just you're held to a higher standard.

00:22:31.000 And let's go back to the Ten Commandments.

00:22:34.000 Do not take the Lord's name in vain.

00:22:36.000 Now, that means verbally we should never say that I don't like when people throw around, oh my, you know, I don't like it.

00:22:42.000 I believe that to be a sin.

00:22:43.000 But I believe it actually is deeper than that, and it's not reading into it exegetically.

00:22:47.000 The word is do not carry the Lord's name in vain, which you could interpret that in a lot of different ways.

00:22:53.000 It is not too far to say, and the original rabbis would say this back 2,000, 3,000 years ago, which is that if you are going to do evil in the name of God, that is one of the most, that is the unforgivable thing you do.

00:23:07.000 And if you really wrestle with that, it makes sense.

00:23:11.000 Because, for example, if every pastor was an adulterer, it would destroy the faith.

00:23:19.000 If every single pastor, think about it, they pick one pastor out of a thousand, and it makes us all look bad, right?

00:23:26.000 Just think about one.

00:23:27.000 They're able to misrepresent the entire body of Christ.

00:23:31.000 And so when you are in the role and you say, I am a pastor, which by the way, I never say I'm a pastor.

00:23:37.000 I'm not a theologian.

00:23:38.000 I'm a Christian.

00:23:39.000 I'm a believer, and I love the word, okay?

00:23:40.000 But when someone says they're a pastor, we immediately need to hold them to higher account because they're now telling you that I am a spokesperson, an interlocutor, a dare I say, mediator for the scriptures.

00:23:53.000 Now, Christ is the ultimate mediator.

00:23:55.000 But they say that I'm here to help you understand this.

00:23:58.000 And if they say something is blasphemous and is heretical, that, well, we don't do politics around here.

00:24:04.000 We just do the gospel, then I believe you're going to be judged for that kind of heresy.

00:24:11.000 I don't think you should only talk about politics, but you're trying to tell me God is indifferent to the 1 million abortions happening in this country every single year?

00:24:19.000 And that he wants his church just to kind of, you know, sit around and talk about how they read Live, Eat, and Pray, or whatever that silly book is that, you know, more women would know than men or whatever.

00:24:31.000 Pray, Live, and Eat.

00:24:32.000 I always get it wrong, whatever it is.

00:24:33.000 I haven't read it.

00:24:34.000 I don't know about it.

00:24:34.000 And I look at some of these pastors, and I will say I break them into different categories.

00:24:39.000 Some of them, you know, they obviously have a much bigger wardrobe budget than a book budget.

00:24:43.000 And I say, these guys have got to resign from the ministry.

00:24:45.000 They're not doing serious study or scholarship.

00:24:48.000 But some, I think, are afraid.

00:24:51.000 And I'll be honest, I've lost patience with them.

00:24:53.000 I had patience with them for like during COVID.

00:24:55.000 And now I say, if you are afraid as a pastor, go sell insurance.

00:25:00.000 Stop being a pastor.

00:25:02.000 You have no business.

00:25:04.000 Only God, you should.

00:25:05.000 By the way, nothing against insurance salesmen.

00:25:07.000 We need you, please.

00:25:08.000 I mean, I love you guys to death, okay?

00:25:10.000 But I'm sure we have a couple here tonight that they aren't laughing at all at what I'm saying.

00:25:14.000 That's not funny.

00:25:16.000 But I'll throw it back to you, John, with this.

00:25:19.000 If you're going to step into the arena right now at the very consequential times we're living in, the signs of the times all around us, and you're going to say, I'm a pastor, and you want that because of the lifestyle or the Instagram clicks, or you think that it's like a cool job, I highly recommend you get out of the arena because you're doing more harm than good.

00:25:40.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:25:41.000 You know, I wonder as you, and just to kind of capitalize on that a little bit more, and I do agree with you.

00:25:45.000 I think when you read through scripture, there were times when God would call prophets to confront kings and would put a word in their mouth, and it wasn't an easy word to deliver.

00:25:56.000 And they weren't always applauded.

00:25:58.000 And most times they were either imprisoned or they were put to death.

00:26:02.000 They were hated.

00:26:04.000 And I think there's the fear of man has taken above really the fear of God.

00:26:08.000 And if you fear God, you don't have to fear anything.

00:26:12.000 I mean, that's really what it comes down to, the fear of man.

00:26:14.000 The Bible says the fear of man brings a snare.

00:26:17.000 And I think it's important to have a greater reverence for God.

00:26:20.000 I also would like to add and maybe ask you this, Charlie.

00:26:23.000 Do you think it's possible?

00:26:25.000 Because as a pastor, either, and it works in a couple different ways.

00:26:29.000 You have people that say, hey, you are too political.

00:26:33.000 And then you have others that say, you're not political enough.

00:26:37.000 And so you, as a pastor, you're, you know, let's say you're ministering and you're doing all this, but people say, you don't say enough.

00:26:43.000 I'm saying stuff.

00:26:44.000 Like, you know, it's not every week I'm going to open the Constitution to, I've opened the Bible, but if it comes up, you know, issues come up, we're going to talk about it.

00:26:53.000 We can't be afraid of it.

00:26:55.000 But I wonder, is it possible, do you think it's possible to be too one-sided?

00:27:00.000 Is there, where's the, this is my question.

00:27:01.000 And I really try to strike this.

00:27:03.000 And you who attend here, you know my heart on this.

00:27:05.000 I really try to strike the balance.

00:27:08.000 And I find the balance.

00:27:09.000 John, if people say you aren't political enough, they're wrong.

00:27:13.000 Oh, I feel better now.

00:27:14.000 Thank you.

00:27:15.000 I just felt like.

00:27:16.000 No, but I mean, look, I mean, having me buys you like two years, okay?

00:27:20.000 That's like you bought like two years of inventory.

00:27:26.000 But John, I mean, I watch you periodically.

00:27:29.000 You're always speaking very morally clearly.

00:27:31.000 I think Pastor Jack Hibbs does a great job of being biblical and being outspoken, which he does.

00:27:38.000 And I try to watch Jack.

00:27:39.000 I watch him almost every single week.

00:27:41.000 But yes, of course you could become too political.

00:27:43.000 So you watch Jack every week and me like once in a while?

00:27:46.000 I'm sorry.

00:27:50.000 I'll try to wrap that up.

00:27:51.000 It's really cool.

00:27:52.000 There's only so much time in a day.

00:27:54.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:27:55.000 You were saying?

00:27:57.000 I'm never going to be invited back, so now I'm really going to turn it up.

00:28:02.000 I love you, Jack.

00:28:04.000 That's what.

00:28:07.000 I will say this.

00:28:08.000 Thanks, Mom.

00:28:09.000 I appreciate it.

00:28:15.000 I'm sorry.

00:28:16.000 You were saying that.

00:28:17.000 It's okay.

00:28:17.000 I digress.

00:28:19.000 So I, of course, you could become too political.

00:28:22.000 And this is a friend of mine wrote a book, and I'm not going to say who he did because he has a great heart.

00:28:27.000 And I met with him.

00:28:28.000 He's a well-known theologian, and he became a friend through the book because I thought the book was totally off the mark.

00:28:34.000 And he said, one of the biggest problems is this rise of Christian nationalism.

00:28:38.000 And the way he defines it, I actually tend to agree, if that was the term, which was like, okay, the nation comes more important than Jesus.

00:28:45.000 And, you know, that, okay, I said, fine.

00:28:46.000 But he thinks it's this widespread contagion.

00:28:49.000 And I say, no, it's not.

00:28:53.000 You are like way misdiagnosing.

00:28:57.000 There might be a fringe of the fringe.

00:28:58.000 And I will tell you, again, I've spoken at churches across the country.

00:29:02.000 We have now had over 3,000 pastors pass through our training at TPUSA Faith.

00:29:09.000 I have not come.

00:29:10.000 It's amazing.

00:29:11.000 I have not come across a pastor that I believe is too political.

00:29:16.000 And the evidence is this, because I ask them, I say, tell me about the most important metric.

00:29:21.000 How many souls are going to heaven?

00:29:24.000 And they'll say, well, we've tripled our baptisms or quadrupled our attendance here in Easter.

00:29:28.000 Okay.

00:29:29.000 So, I mean, so I don't find it that way.

00:29:32.000 I will say, though, John, okay, I grant you, there might be a church somewhere.

00:29:36.000 And again, I will say, if they are too political, how have I not heard of them?

00:29:41.000 I just, you know, how have they not invited me to speak, right?

00:29:45.000 I just, I want to find these people.

00:29:47.000 I'm sure they exist somewhere.

00:29:48.000 The much bigger problem, though, John, is churches that are not political enough or not political at all.

00:29:55.000 And let's stop this word political.

00:29:57.000 Let me fix my language.

00:29:58.000 They're not biblical enough or they're not biblical at all.

00:30:01.000 That's the true problem, right?

00:30:03.000 And so, look, there's a season for everything, as it says in Ecclesiastes, right?

00:30:09.000 So they're ramping things up in politics.

00:30:11.000 It makes sense to have me speak here, right?

00:30:13.000 But you've got to keep Jesus at the center. 0.83

00:30:14.000 And John, I've known you for a little while, and you always ask this question so well.

00:30:18.000 And God will give you wisdom and he'll give it to you generously, right?

00:30:21.000 And you're going through the scriptures and it speaks clearly to a moral topic.

00:30:25.000 Hit it.

00:30:25.000 And hey, if there's a breaking news item and you feel led, then you just dive into it.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 Right?

00:30:30.000 And that is what it means to lead the ecclesia in the public square, which is what church actually means in the original Greek.

00:30:38.000 But the biggest problem right now in American Christianity, let's not fool ourselves, are pastors that do not dive into the current events.

00:30:46.000 And better yet, they do not equip their flock to be able to read the news items and understand what does the Bible say about trans surgeries? 0.89

00:30:57.000 What does the Bible say about immigration?

00:30:59.000 What does the Bible say about politicians?

00:31:03.000 What does it say about government?

00:31:04.000 Should we submit to government all the time?

00:31:06.000 Is there ever a right time to rebel against government?

00:31:09.000 And so what I have found is if the church, the flock, are not getting that kind of guidance from their church, they will go get it from a secular authority.

00:31:20.000 And the tragedy of modern Christianity is you have millions of people going to church every single day, not being equipped with a biblical worldview.

00:31:29.000 See, a biblical worldview, the best way I could put it is it is the color of which you see everything.

00:31:36.000 So once you get a biblical worldview taught by a good pastor like Pastor John and so on and so forth, is then you see a news item on CNN, like, well, that doesn't harmonize with my worldview.

00:31:49.000 And you're trained then in the ways, so you no longer need the pastor to guide you through every news item.

00:31:54.000 And that kind of training takes time, and you have to spend time in the scriptures, and you have to read the Bible every day, and you have to listen to Christian music, and you have to pray to God, and you develop that.

00:32:02.000 It's a muscle set, really.

00:32:04.000 And for new Christians, it might take a year or two or three or four or five because you might still be looking at it through the secular old worldview.

00:32:10.000 And sometimes you need to kind of get those muscles back into action because sometimes you might be falling into kind of a secular way of thinking.

00:32:17.000 But so many pastors will then do something even worse than that, is they'll take a secular New Age worldview and bring it into the church.

00:32:28.000 That's right.

00:32:28.000 So let me give you an example.

00:32:30.000 They'll come up and they'll say, I don't like Donald Trump because he's not nice.

00:32:30.000 Yeah, please.

00:32:37.000 And so then I say, find the word nice anywhere in the Bible, and I will concede the point.

00:32:42.000 It's nowhere in the 66 books of the Bible is the word nice.

00:32:46.000 The word nice is from the 1900s. 0.99

00:32:49.000 In Latin, it means stupid. 0.98

00:32:51.000 And so, you know, it really does. 0.99

00:32:52.000 It means ignorant, stupid, you know, and like, you know, oh, that person's really nice, you know, like, and how it metamorphosized into what we, you know, mean now. 0.99

00:33:00.000 Now, you're supposed to be called to be kind, loving, compassionate, compassionate, long-suffering, truthful. 1.00

00:33:06.000 All those things are correct.

00:33:08.000 But they will say that, you know, I can't vote for this person or I can't support this count.

00:33:12.000 I'm not here to make it all about Trump, but I'm just using an example, right?

00:33:16.000 Because, you know, I don't like the way that, you know, they say certain things.

00:33:20.000 Okay.

00:33:21.000 So you're trying to tell me that somebody's tone bothers you so much that you do not want Roe versus Wade to be repealed.

00:33:27.000 Because if enough people thought the way you did in the 2016 presidential election with Hillary Clinton, we don't get Amy, Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch, and Roe versus Wade is still a law of the land, and we would not have hundreds of thousands of lives be saved.

00:33:39.000 So praise God we didn't think that way.

00:33:42.000 By the way, the embassy would never have been moved to Jerusalem and Israel.

00:33:46.000 We wouldn't have had relative peace.

00:33:47.000 We had a border for a short period of time.

00:33:49.000 I could go on and on and on for other examples, right?

00:33:52.000 And so I want to make sure that pastors are not bringing these kind of secular prisms into the pulpit.

00:33:58.000 I love that.

00:33:59.000 Great word, Charlie.

00:34:00.000 I love that.

00:34:00.000 It's excellent.

00:34:04.000 You know, probably on all of our minds, we've been counting down the days, the years.

00:34:13.000 You've seen it.

00:34:14.000 I've seen it.

00:34:15.000 It's painful to watch.

00:34:18.000 You've seen the films that expose what happened during the election, and it just fires you up even more.

00:34:24.000 All the false narratives and all the fake things that come out.

00:34:27.000 Charlie, I know on the minds of these freedom-loving people tonight is the election.

00:34:33.000 We were talking tonight before about some of the things that are going on, and what you were sharing, and I was listening, I found encouraging.

00:34:41.000 Talk about this upcoming election, how important this is, how critical this is, and what the church can be doing to make a difference.

00:34:49.000 So, well, you know, so this doesn't happen again.

00:34:52.000 We got to do something.

00:34:53.000 I love the question.

00:34:54.000 And so I'm going to start unusually.

00:34:55.000 I want to make sure that we all make a commitment that if this election doesn't go our way, the next day we fight.

00:35:01.000 That's a very important thing.

00:35:03.000 And I know I get golf applause because a lot of people don't want to hear that.

00:35:08.000 They say, what do you mean it doesn't go our way?

00:35:09.000 It has to go our way.

00:35:10.000 We have to win.

00:35:11.000 I agree.

00:35:13.000 But If your answer is no, I'm not going to fight if I don't get my way, then you are a summer, sunny, what they called in the sunshine patriot, not ready for the winter storm.

00:35:27.000 And there were a lot of people, by the way, that were all on board for the American Revolution as long as it was 73 degrees and sunny.

00:35:33.000 And as soon as they had to march through the winter and fight a smallpox epidemic, they said, forget this.

00:35:39.000 You know, Liberty sounds nice, but I like the King George a lot.

00:35:42.000 So they kind of got out of the way.

00:35:44.000 So you have to commit yourself to that.

00:35:46.000 Look, I'm a big supporter of President Trump.

00:35:49.000 I think he's in a great position.

00:35:51.000 I really do.

00:35:52.000 And I'm going to walk you through the numbers.

00:35:54.000 And I hesitate, I really hesitate to say that because mark my words, put it in your phone.

00:36:02.000 They got something planned for us, and it's going to be nasty and it will be asymmetric.

00:36:06.000 And so if only elections aren't in mid-March, right?

00:36:10.000 You know, if only it wasn't the odds of March and we have elections, it would be great.

00:36:14.000 How to best unpack this, John?

00:36:15.000 It's going to come down to a couple of states.

00:36:18.000 So let's go through this.

00:36:20.000 I am 50-50 on whether Joe Biden will be the nominee.

00:36:24.000 It looks like he will be the nominee, but anything can change.

00:36:27.000 They're running out of time.

00:36:28.000 If they were going to do it, it probably would have already been done by now.

00:36:31.000 You say, oh, it could be done after the convention.

00:36:32.000 That's easier said than done.

00:36:34.000 But I concede the point that very well that could be possible.

00:36:38.000 It's not Trump versus Biden.

00:36:40.000 It's Trump versus Biden versus RFK versus Cornell West versus Jill Stein.

00:36:44.000 Let me pivot for a second.

00:36:46.000 If any of you are thinking of voting for RFK, stop it.

00:36:49.000 Okay?

00:36:50.000 Enough of this.

00:36:53.000 I get so many messages of this.

00:36:56.000 Oh, Charlie, he's so handsome.

00:36:58.000 I said, what do you think?

00:36:59.000 Handsome.

00:37:00.000 Crazy stuff.

00:37:02.000 Handsome.

00:37:03.000 What is this?

00:37:03.000 I mean, I vote for Gavin Newsom, I guess.

00:37:05.000 It's not.

00:37:06.000 Yeah.

00:37:08.000 People message me all the time saying he's the most handsome politician in America. 0.76

00:37:12.000 I said, this must be a troll, right?

00:37:14.000 I said, I think he's like Bain from Darth Vader, from Batman or something.

00:37:21.000 So the RFK, let me talk about this for a second.

00:37:24.000 I had him on my program.

00:37:26.000 He's completely ill-equipped to become president, okay?

00:37:28.000 He's a pro-abortion.

00:37:30.000 Don't know where he stands on trans stuff, Massachusetts liberal, climate change guy.

00:37:35.000 Okay, you cannot vote for him, especially if you're a Bible-believing Christian.

00:37:39.000 And I say this because he's pulling 16% of the vote, which is a very significant figure.

00:37:44.000 So it's Trump v. Biden v. RFK versus Cornell West versus Jill Stein.

00:37:48.000 Very similar to the 1992 presidential election when Bill Clinton ran against Herbert Walker Bush with Ross Perot, and the winning candidate got 43% of the vote, Bill Clinton, who became president for two terms.

00:38:00.000 It's going to come down to a handful of states.

00:38:02.000 It's going to come down to Arizona, Georgia, and either Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.

00:38:07.000 So Georgia, the Biden campaign, is feeling, let's just say, continually very bad about Georgia, which is a good sign. 1.00

00:38:14.000 They're very bearish on the state of Georgia, so they're pulling out of Georgia.

00:38:18.000 Go to Arizona.

00:38:19.000 It's where we're headquartered, to where I live.

00:38:21.000 I don't want to make any big proclamations.

00:38:23.000 Our voting systems are so screwed up in Arizona. 0.64

00:38:25.000 It is going to be a knife fight. 0.97

00:38:26.000 It's going to be a battle to the bitter end.

00:38:28.000 That thing is going to come down to 5,000 votes, 6,000 votes.

00:38:31.000 At turning point action, we are hiring the largest ballot chasing army in the history of Republican GOTV politics.

00:38:42.000 We are hiring over 350 full-time people.

00:38:45.000 It is a massive endeavor.

00:38:47.000 Somebody asked me earlier, they said, How many people work for you right now?

00:38:50.000 I said, well, 500, soon to be 800.

00:38:52.000 Said, congratulations.

00:38:53.000 I said, you mean your condolences?

00:38:55.000 Hiring that many people is not easy, as any of you that have run big businesses know, vetting, all that sort of stuff.

00:39:00.000 So keep us in prayer.

00:39:01.000 Praise God.

00:39:02.000 We've raised a fair amount of resources to pay for it.

00:39:04.000 We could always use more.

00:39:06.000 Not here to ask you guys for money.

00:39:07.000 I will ask you for prayer, but not money.

00:39:09.000 But the Lord has really blessed us financially to be able to get out of the gate.

00:39:14.000 We're also doing something similar in Wisconsin.

00:39:16.000 Over 150 people we're hiring in the state of Wisconsin.

00:39:19.000 So it's all going to, if you were to say, what does it come down to?

00:39:23.000 It comes down to Joe Biden has to win all three of what is called the blue wall.

00:39:29.000 Donald Trump has to win one out of the blue wall.

00:39:32.000 And that's it.

00:39:33.000 If Donald Trump wins one out of the blue wall, he's president of the United States if he wins Arizona and Georgia.

00:39:38.000 So it is Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

00:39:41.000 Do you want me to keep going on this granularity?

00:39:43.000 Okay.

00:39:44.000 I do.

00:39:44.000 Anyone else?

00:39:45.000 All right, okay, yeah.

00:39:46.000 Helpful.

00:39:47.000 It's helpful.

00:39:47.000 Thank you.

00:39:48.000 Okay, so let's start with the one that I'm the least excited about, which is Pennsylvania. 0.93

00:39:54.000 Pennsylvania is incredibly crooked.

00:39:56.000 John Fetterman should not be a U.S. senator, even though he's becoming mysteriously right-wing in recent months.

00:40:02.000 It's very strange, but he's still a Democrat.

00:40:06.000 And they have mass mail-in voting, very crooked voting laws. 0.86

00:40:10.000 Philadelphia is an awful city. 0.83

00:40:12.000 I mean, Philadelphia is like LA, but just a little smaller, as far as how corrupt it is, how backward it is. 1.00

00:40:18.000 New Jersey is right across the border, and they have tons of crooked activity there.

00:40:22.000 So Pennsylvania will be very tough.

00:40:24.000 So then, Michigan.

00:40:25.000 Michigan, I would be very bearish on, but God works in mysterious ways.

00:40:32.000 This Israel-Gaza war is really causing problems for the Democrats.

00:40:37.000 If 100,000 Arab Muslims in Michigan decide to vote unaffiliated or not vote for the Democrat Party, Donald Trump could win the state of Michigan.

00:40:48.000 He does very, very well in Michigan, especially with the muscular class, auto workers, Wayne County, Macomb County.

00:40:54.000 He has a special attachment to the state of Michigan.

00:40:57.000 So that's still a tougher shot, but more achievable than Pennsylvania.

00:41:02.000 Then, in our opinion, it's all going to come down to Wisconsin.

00:41:05.000 We think Wisconsin is the most winnable of those three.

00:41:08.000 It has poor voting laws, but the best of the three voting laws, because election integrity, I don't know if you guys agree, is like my number one issue.

00:41:17.000 We need to secure our elections.

00:41:18.000 I think it is so incredibly important.

00:41:21.000 And something that I got involved in very heavily, and we paid a personal price.

00:41:27.000 They came after my family.

00:41:28.000 They came after me personally.

00:41:30.000 So we went and we were successful, amongst other people, to get Ronna McRomney to resign from the RNC, and we were successful in that regard.

00:41:38.000 And so there is a far-improve now.

00:41:43.000 Lara Trump is doing a great job.

00:41:45.000 She's terrific, and I think very highly of her.

00:41:47.000 There's still some problems there, but it is much, it is far better than it was even a month ago.

00:41:53.000 And so at turning point action, we really made it kind of our obsession to try to get RNC regime change.

00:41:58.000 And we got what we wanted, which was really great.

00:42:00.000 We wanted it for the country.

00:42:01.000 It was not some sort of petty grievance.

00:42:03.000 It's just that that regime was not going to bring us forth victory.

00:42:05.000 So it's going to come down to Wisconsin.

00:42:07.000 If you go back to the 2020 election, Donald Trump fell 21,000 votes short in the state of Wisconsin.

00:42:14.000 And so every single ballot, every single voter is going to come down to it.

00:42:17.000 So if the election was, how I think it's going to come down in November is this.

00:42:22.000 I think that Georgia and Arizona, at the current trend, we should be, if we do the work, okay.

00:42:28.000 Arizona, again, I don't want to make any huge predictions because it's so crooked after what they did at Kerry Lake.

00:42:32.000 I'm not going to overly predict.

00:42:34.000 But we have to do our work.

00:42:36.000 I'll tell you, we have not done the necessary work in Wisconsin yet.

00:42:39.000 We are behind.

00:42:41.000 They have over 2,000 full-time Democrats on the ground in Wisconsin doing this work, chasing ballots, registering voters.

00:42:48.000 And it's going to come down to that.

00:42:50.000 And it's a big mystery of how the third-party candidates are going to play into it.

00:42:54.000 And so we have a lot of work to do.

00:42:56.000 It's going to be a very tough seven to eight months for those of us that are really involved in this.

00:43:02.000 And make sure, I hope you guys understand this, and I think you do.

00:43:04.000 This is a spiritual war, first and foremost.

00:43:07.000 There are demons that are at work trying.

00:43:09.000 The amount of asymmetric, Just say inexplicable nonsense that has happened to us and our team in the last 30 days.

00:43:20.000 The only explanation is demonic and that from the occult.

00:43:24.000 And we know it because we are on the cutting edge.

00:43:27.000 We have the largest staff that is doing this.

00:43:29.000 We have the most dedicated team, the hardest working people.

00:43:31.000 We're go, go, go, almost no time off now till when ballots are counted in November.

00:43:37.000 But, you know, we live for this, John.

00:43:39.000 You know, the Lord has blessed us with an incredible platform with millions of followers.

00:43:43.000 Over 300,000 people now give us money as small dollar donations, which is an amazing thing.

00:43:49.000 And we've been saying for a long time, Lord, use us.

00:43:51.000 Kind of our mantra for the 2024 year is Hanani, here I am, which is used seven times throughout the Old Testament, most famously, of course, with the binding of Isaac in the book of Genesis with Abraham and Isaac, but also with Moses when he sees the burning bush, here I am.

00:44:11.000 Samuel, the call of Samuel, here I am.

00:44:13.000 And it's this idea of Lord, use me.

00:44:16.000 And that is what the mantra for all of us should be as the kind of core focus, which is Lord, use me.

00:44:22.000 How can you use me for your purposes to advance the kingdom of God here on earth?

00:44:27.000 And so it's a full court press now, the November.

00:44:29.000 Amen.

00:44:30.000 Oh, it's great.

00:44:30.000 I love that.

00:44:33.000 So thankful.

00:44:34.000 So thankful for the work that you're doing and all your efforts.

00:44:38.000 Encourage you, folks, if you believe in what's going on and to become a supporter.

00:44:44.000 And I know you don't ask for money and we're not asking for money.

00:44:46.000 We'd never do that either.

00:44:47.000 But if you believe in it and you feel the Lord leading, I'd encourage you to consider that.

00:44:52.000 I think it'd be a real blessing, obviously, a great blessing what you're doing.

00:44:56.000 I also want to say, you know, as we talk about coming down to voting, this is a question you and I dialogued a little bit about this before, but why do self-proclaiming Christians vote for candidates who are in opposition to a biblical worldview follow-up question?

00:45:12.000 Can you be a Democrat and still hold Christian values?

00:45:18.000 This is for Charlie, by the way, just so.

00:45:20.000 Thank you for answering.

00:45:22.000 And I've said this before, and I want to make sure I'm very clear with my language.

00:45:26.000 Okay, appreciate that.

00:45:28.000 If you cannot, in my personal opinion, be a true born-again Christian and vote Democrat in 2024.

00:45:38.000 And highlight why that is.

00:45:41.000 It's easy to say that, but like drill down on that a little bit for us so you know, because I think.

00:45:45.000 And I want to be clear.

00:45:46.000 That doesn't mean if you vote Republican, you're a Christian.

00:45:48.000 Okay?

00:45:49.000 Let's just be clear.

00:45:50.000 The inverse is not true.

00:45:52.000 I'm making a statement of fact.

00:45:54.000 So why is that the case?

00:45:55.000 So a vote is your proxy, your statement to the state that these are my values.

00:46:01.000 This is what I believe.

00:46:02.000 Okay.

00:46:03.000 This is how we have to educate voting.

00:46:05.000 So everything you do is watched and judged by God.

00:46:09.000 And everything you do should be to the glory of God.

00:46:12.000 Okay.

00:46:12.000 So everything you do, from what you eat, for who you marry, everything, how you talk.

00:46:18.000 And when you vote, it's not insignificant because as you vote, it is your communication saying, I as the sovereign are now giving you power.

00:46:26.000 So it's a transfer of power.

00:46:28.000 You might not have thought it that way.

00:46:29.000 When you fill out your ballot, it's a transfer of power.

00:46:32.000 So you're basically saying, I want you to do what I would best do in that position, the best fit and the best mold you can.

00:46:39.000 There'll never be 100% fit.

00:46:42.000 But if you say, I am a Christian and I would do what you do, you're basically saying, at the best, I'm indifferent.

00:46:51.000 But in the current Democrat Party, they're not indifferent.

00:46:53.000 They are celebratory of a million abortions a year.

00:46:57.000 Kamala Harris visited a child sacrificing center this last week called Planned Parenthood.

00:47:05.000 The first vice president or president ever to visit an abortion clinic. 0.96

00:47:10.000 It is beyond disgusting.

00:47:12.000 That alone should say, okay, you're a born-again Christian, and you're going to vote for the political party that sends a vice president to an abortion clinic. 0.79

00:47:21.000 So let me just kind of go through three very simple, and I could go even deeper.

00:47:25.000 I could go 10, I could go 20, I could go 30.

00:47:27.000 But three irrefutable bulletproof contrast items between the Democrat Party and the Republican Party that are recent, they are biblical, and they are clear, and you can use them with your friends, okay?

00:47:39.000 God created men and women, male and female.

00:47:43.000 The Republican Party holds that as a core pillar of their party.

00:47:48.000 The Democrat Party does not believe that. 0.97

00:47:51.000 They believe that gender is infinite, that you could change your gender, and in fact, we should teach your children that, and that they can get irreversible damage done to them and pharmacological agents, and that the transgender craze, if you oppose it, you're a hater and that you are a terrible person.

00:48:11.000 God created man and woman.

00:48:12.000 That's number one.

00:48:12.000 Number two, of course, the life issue.

00:48:15.000 The Republican Party in the pillar of the platform is a pro-life party.

00:48:19.000 Is a party more than times than not, the people you send to Congress, the people you send to the Senate, the people that you send to the presidency are fighting for the unborn.

00:48:27.000 Are they as pro-life as I would like them to be?

00:48:29.000 No.

00:48:29.000 But they are still fighting in the advancement of pro-life policies, defunding Planned Parenthood, pro-life judges, constitutional judges.

00:48:36.000 That's number two.

00:48:36.000 The Democrat Party celebrates abortion as if it is a moral good.

00:48:42.000 Number three, the church can never be called non-essential again.

00:48:47.000 The Democrat Party went around the country and locked down church after church after church.

00:48:54.000 So those three things, the Republican Party was against lockdowns, was in favor of the church never being called non-essential.

00:49:00.000 And so if you're a Christian and say, I am voting for the Democrat Party, you are then saying, I want a resurrection of the pagan God of Molech to come back to America, the pagan God of child sacrifice. 0.89

00:49:15.000 And I know that might be too intense for some of you to hear.

00:49:18.000 How is it any different than what the Aztecs did on the top of a temple when they drove a stake through a child's heart than what Planned Parenthood does every single day? 0.52

00:49:28.000 How many abortions do you think there are in America every day? 0.83

00:49:30.000 There are 3,000 abortions in America every single day.

00:49:35.000 And we're just supposed to be indifferent, like, oh, you know, allow people to make whatever choices they want.

00:49:40.000 You know, it's not murder. 1.00

00:49:42.000 It's just the female's choice. 1.00

00:49:43.000 I'm not going to subscribe to that political movement. 1.00

00:49:46.000 As soon as the political movement refuses to be pro-life, I'm going to go start a new one.

00:49:50.000 I will not allow the Republican Party to not be a pro-life movement ever.

00:49:54.000 And you shouldn't either.

00:49:56.000 And that's why you should stay engaged and stay involved at every single corner, every turn.

00:50:00.000 And so, and the final thing I'll say, though, is just look at through the fruit.

00:50:05.000 And this is a little bit of a deeper argument, but I think you'll resonate with this.

00:50:09.000 Is that God is a God of stability, order, and distinction.

00:50:14.000 Those are three, our God is a God of order, stability, and distinction.

00:50:19.000 Satan, by definition, is an agent of chaos, deception, confusion, and turmoil.

00:50:26.000 John 10, 10, the enemy has come to lie, steal, cheat, and destroy.

00:50:32.000 I, Christ Jesus, have come to give life and life more abundantly. 0.90

00:50:36.000 In the last four years of living under this Biden garbage, we have seen this country go in the direction of chaos, of tumult, of being upended from within. 0.92

00:50:51.000 And so some people say, but Charlie, what do the Democrats want? 0.97

00:50:54.000 They want full and complete destruction of the United States of America.

00:50:57.000 They do not want a better country.

00:50:59.000 They do not want you to live in a better tomorrow.

00:51:01.000 They want to overwhelm the system and radically transform it, as Barack Obama said, is one of the last things he said before he got elected president.

00:51:09.000 We are only a few days away from fundamentally transforming this country.

00:51:12.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:51:14.000 Do you fundamentally transform that which you love?

00:51:17.000 Do you turn to your wife and say, I can't wait to fundamentally transform you?

00:51:21.000 You conserve that which you love.

00:51:24.000 That is why we call ourselves conservatives, because we have gratitude and love for this country that we did not build, but we inherited thanks to the grace and the glory of God.

00:51:33.000 They want to destroy it.

00:51:35.000 It is a harder message to say, stop.

00:51:38.000 No, don't do that.

00:51:40.000 Stop, no, don't do that.

00:51:41.000 No, you don't get free stuff.

00:51:43.000 Wake up earlier.

00:51:44.000 Stop doing weed. 0.99

00:51:45.000 No, hands off your kids.

00:51:46.000 But it is the moral and the righteous political movement to be on the side of.

00:51:50.000 So to answer your question, no, if you vote Democrat as a Christian, I think you can no longer call yourself a Christian.

00:51:57.000 You have to call yourself something else.

00:51:58.000 I do not think you could be a Christian and vote Democrat.

00:52:00.000 That's a good answer.

00:52:08.000 So listen, you got Democrat friends claiming to be Christians.

00:52:14.000 Pray for them.

00:52:15.000 Witness to them.

00:52:17.000 Graciously. 1.00

00:52:18.000 Don't go into the office tomorrow, you pagan Molech worshiping heathen dog. 1.00

00:52:24.000 You need to fall on your knees. 0.99

00:52:25.000 Maybe if it works with some people, but listen, you need to like.

00:52:29.000 Great point.

00:52:31.000 Yeah, and I know, and I appreciate your, you know, this is the pastoral side of, hey, love Jesus, love your neighbor as yourself.

00:52:39.000 But if you love them, then tell them the truth, right?

00:52:41.000 Tell them the truth.

00:52:42.000 Speak the truth in love, but speak the truth.

00:52:45.000 The world wants you to say, hey, just love everybody.

00:52:47.000 This is all inclusive.

00:52:48.000 If you really love people, you tell them the truth.

00:52:50.000 If you don't love them, you'll lie to them.

00:52:52.000 They're lied to all the time.

00:52:53.000 You tell them the truth.

00:52:54.000 And that's going to make the difference.

00:52:56.000 So, with love.

00:53:00.000 You know what, Charlie, we're almost out of time.

00:53:02.000 But one of the things that came up by way of question, and people sent us questions.

00:53:06.000 And what do you think?

00:53:07.000 And I love the fact that you are reaching young people.

00:53:11.000 If you've never seen what Charlie does on the college campuses, YouTube it, check it out.

00:53:16.000 I look at him and I think, oh, I mean, he sets up this card table and he just lets people just say all kinds of vile things in his face.

00:53:27.000 And he just keeps it together.

00:53:29.000 I'm like, I don't, I could not, I'd be like, come on, you know, he just sits there and takes it.

00:53:35.000 And I'm like, I'm like, wow.

00:53:38.000 I said, Michelle, look at this.

00:53:40.000 Look at what this kid's saying.

00:53:42.000 Cover your ears on that part.

00:53:43.000 And he just graciously does it.

00:53:45.000 And it's like, drop the mic.

00:53:47.000 And they just walk away like they don't know what to say.

00:53:50.000 And I appreciate that about you.

00:53:52.000 And my question is this.

00:53:54.000 And that's really how I heard about Charlie.

00:53:56.000 If you didn't know this, he's actually my second favorite Charlie.

00:54:01.000 My first Charlie is my grandson.

00:54:04.000 He's also Charlie James, Charlie James.

00:54:07.000 We just found that out today.

00:54:09.000 Same name.

00:54:10.000 But anyways, what do you think is the single biggest issue affecting this next generation, Charlie?

00:54:18.000 I love it.

00:54:18.000 And just so we're clear, if it wasn't for Jesus Christ, I would get very upset at all these people that come and scream at me.

00:54:24.000 It is evidence of the Holy Spirit being transformed from within.

00:54:28.000 That is not my nature.

00:54:30.000 That is not my nature.

00:54:31.000 It is not.

00:54:32.000 But it is one of the fruits of the Spirit.

00:54:34.000 Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness.

00:54:37.000 And I'm forgetting when the self-control.

00:54:39.000 So self-control is a fruit of the Spirit.

00:54:42.000 So praise God.

00:54:43.000 So we only have a couple minutes for this.

00:54:46.000 Here's the best way I can answer that question.

00:54:48.000 The biggest problem that young people are facing is they are the first generation to inherit a secular America and not a Christian America. 0.84

00:54:58.000 And that is a, we could do a whole hour speech on that.

00:55:02.000 And I was the last gasp.

00:55:04.000 I was born in 1993.

00:55:06.000 And I was raised in like the last moment of Christian America.

00:55:11.000 And we are no longer in a Christian country.

00:55:14.000 We are no longer the dominant view.

00:55:16.000 We are now a minority view in this country.

00:55:18.000 We still have plenty of following and buildings and, you know, let's just say membership, for lack of a better term.

00:55:27.000 But we were always told that Christianity was the problem and that moderation and secularism is the answer.

00:55:35.000 And just look how wrong that was.

00:55:38.000 But I'll be honest, who is to blame for that?

00:55:41.000 It was apathetic Christians that allowed America to become secular. 1.00

00:55:45.000 It's that we almost bought the lie.

00:55:47.000 And it was a, think about how ferocious of a propaganda campaign it was. 0.88

00:55:51.000 It was movie after movie that portrayed Christians as hypocritical and they cheat on their wife and they're money grubbing and they're and you think about the archetype that was always painted in mass media and in culture and outside of the obvious moral failings of individuals let's talk about societally we now live in, the most young people, are the most depressed suicidal, alcohol addicted generation in history and they are the least religious generation in history. 0.55

00:56:21.000 But I will close with this on this thought john, I do think it's starting to change and there was this profound moment and i've been tracking this and I know some of you may or may not listen to Joe Rogan. 0.84

00:56:34.000 I I actually really like him and he, he there's been a big, there's been a big change in some of his public commentary recently.

00:56:41.000 He recently had my friend James Lindsay on the program, who I think is amazing, and at the end of the podcast three-hour podcast my friend Patrice listened to it too.

00:56:50.000 This too much swearing.

00:56:51.000 They swear the whole podcast.

00:56:52.000 That drives me nuts.

00:56:53.000 I can't stand swearing.

00:56:53.000 I don't like being around swearing.

00:56:55.000 I think swearing is intellectually lazy and sloppy.

00:56:57.000 I don't like it at all.

00:56:58.000 Um and so if you're swearing, you should stop swearing.

00:57:01.000 I have a whole theory on that?

00:57:02.000 Uh no, I have a theory on it, because if you can't control your tongue, you can't control your flesh. 0.65

00:57:06.000 So if you can't, it's that sense, it's that sense.

00:57:09.000 And so um, discipline your language, you'll discipline your action.

00:57:12.000 Okay, so that's there.

00:57:13.000 That's my whole speech, um on that.

00:57:15.000 But all of a sudden, at the end James, the Joe Rogan, who is known as quote and like quote unquote, as like a cool guy, secular atheist, and James Lindsay, who used to be a leader, who again is one of my best friends, a leader of the new Atheist movement, he asks, James Lindsay, were you ever wrong about something?

00:57:34.000 And James Lindsay said, you know, I was wrong thinking that religious people were all these kind of goofy, superstitious ones and that religion was just a bunch of fairy tales.

00:57:44.000 And he's like, I don't think it's a good thing how secular this country has become.

00:57:48.000 And Joe Rogan interjects and i'm paraphrasing, he's like, yeah, I agree.

00:57:51.000 It's like we we, we need some sort of a moral center in this country.

00:57:54.000 We need something now.

00:57:55.000 That's not them giving their life to the lord yet, but you're starting to see people who love truth realize the implications and the necessity of God in this culture, and I have found on campus that it is far more effective to argue the necessity of God's existence than anything else of what is going to replace God, God, if you're just going to, there's no such thing as an atheist.

00:58:21.000 Something will fill that void.

00:58:23.000 That's right.

00:58:23.000 The LGBTQ God, the pleasure God, the money God, the anti-racism God, the earth-worshiping pagan God.

00:58:32.000 Something will fill that void.

00:58:34.000 Something will fill that.

00:58:36.000 And so my advice to the next generation is: you know, embrace tradition.

00:58:42.000 Wind back the clock.

00:58:44.000 Go back to how actually people talked in the 1950s and 60s.

00:58:47.000 You're not allowed to say that. 0.92

00:58:48.000 Oh, you're a racist.

00:58:49.000 Okay, there were actually some good things in the 50s and 60s. 0.94

00:58:51.000 Like, people were way more polite and less people at autism.

00:58:55.000 And, you know, I don't know.

00:58:58.000 It was like a more decent country, and people were, like, they knew who their neighbor was.

00:59:03.000 And it wasn't like a crazy thing to walk into a neighbor's house and be like, how you doing?

00:59:08.000 I haven't heard from you in a little bit.

00:59:09.000 Can I make you a meal?

00:59:10.000 And we don't even talk to our neighbors.

00:59:12.000 Kids used to go out and play.

00:59:14.000 Now they go and look at their phone all day long.

00:59:17.000 I kind of miss that country.

00:59:18.000 I don't know about you.

00:59:19.000 I don't think it was all just bitterness and resentment.

00:59:23.000 I think it was kind of cool when kids walked to class and they had a firearm around their back.

00:59:30.000 I think it was kind of cool.

00:59:31.000 It was actually taught responsibility.

00:59:33.000 It's like, that's a weapon.

00:59:34.000 You better teach it.

00:59:35.000 You know, take it seriously.

00:59:36.000 We didn't have school shootings back then, by the way.

00:59:38.000 People brought guns to school and put them in a locker.

00:59:40.000 It's funny how we had more guns around and there were less school shootings.

00:59:43.000 We didn't have a bunch of kids on Benzadazepans and Zolaft and Prozac.

00:59:47.000 Zoloft and Prozac and SSRIs.

00:59:50.000 And we didn't have the suicide epidemic.

00:59:52.000 It was a better country in some ways.

00:59:53.000 Some ways it wasn't.

00:59:54.000 Obviously, we needed some adjustments to federal law against discrimination.

00:59:57.000 But this kind of like whitewashing that our country was so evil and terrible in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, I think it's actually created a fake reality.

01:00:06.000 And I think the smart young people want to go back to embrace tradition.

01:00:09.000 They want to go back to that kind of country. 0.90

01:00:10.000 They want to go back to the country of private property ownership and having kids and getting traditionally married and going to church and, you know, I don't know, opening doors for women and not believing men can give birth and not having to use pronouns in some sort of stupid HR terror Nazi campaign where they like indoctrinate you because you work for Goldman Sachs and you work, you know, use the wrong pronoun. 0.92

01:00:30.000 They're going to fire you. 0.99

01:00:32.000 I don't like that country.

01:00:33.000 I don't like the direction that's going.

01:00:34.000 And so I pray we can have a restoration of that, of the once rooted moral center.

01:00:43.000 And I'm seeing a lot of hope for it, John.

01:00:44.000 I am.

01:00:45.000 I don't see a majority yet, but I see a remnant that is ready to fight.

01:00:49.000 I see a remnant that is awakening.

01:00:51.000 I will say that we've been doing this campus tour for quite a while.

01:00:54.000 We cannot find rooms big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our campus events.

01:00:58.000 We literally can't.

01:01:00.000 Praise God.

01:01:02.000 And I am as blunt and as forthright on the gospel and on everything then as I am now.

01:01:09.000 There's no like campus Charlie and church Charlie.

01:01:12.000 It's just Charlie.

01:01:13.000 It's just across the board.

01:01:15.000 Tomorrow I'll be on campus at San Diego State University and we'll probably draw seven, 800, 900 kids just passing by that want to have conversations and talk.

01:01:24.000 The support is greater than you could ever imagine, everybody.

01:01:27.000 And so to answer your question, John, we have a generation that is drowning in the excesses of secular paganism.

01:01:34.000 And only Jesus Christ and Christianity is the answer. 1.00

01:01:37.000 I pray we could throw them that lifeline.

01:01:38.000 Amen.

01:01:39.000 Amen.

01:01:40.000 Can I do one more announcement before we wrap?

01:01:42.000 Please.

01:01:43.000 Yeah.

01:01:44.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 One other thing, when we're going to wrap this up, and that is, Charlie, how can we, first of all, how can we be praying for you?

01:01:58.000 And then I'm going to ask your pastor who's here tonight, good friend of mine, to come up and pray for you.

01:02:04.000 And we're going to pray together.

01:02:05.000 Man, you're going to go, you're going to sail onto the campus tomorrow, brother.

01:02:08.000 You're going to like, the prayers are just going to, and you're going to be backed up, and we're going to be praying for you.

01:02:13.000 How can we be praying for you and your team?

01:02:15.000 Yeah, thank you for that.

01:02:16.000 Honestly, it's, you know, Paul talks a lot about running the race.

01:02:21.000 We have not stopped as an organization.

01:02:24.000 We've been super blessed.

01:02:25.000 But since Mike Pence took the stage and he announced 15 days to sow the spread, it has been four years of, I feel as if we have been going like 95 miles an hour and like the engine is overheating, if that makes sense.

01:02:41.000 I don't have a choice.

01:02:42.000 I don't have the luxury of like, oh, you know, I love.

01:02:46.000 you know, the Christian family.

01:02:48.000 You know, some of these people, Charlie, why don't you go take a month sabbatical?

01:02:51.000 Like, yeah, not happening this year.

01:02:54.000 You know, you have to wheelchair me there, okay?

01:02:57.000 I'll take a sabbatical from the emergency room.

01:02:59.000 Like, I am not, I have not, in my personal opinion, I've not done what I have done these last years out of obedience to God to sow into this to not see this fight through, right?

01:03:09.000 I haven't.

01:03:10.000 And let me be clear.

01:03:12.000 A sabbatical is awfully attractive right now, right?

01:03:15.000 I mean, it has been, you know, 330 speeches a year, three hours of radio a day, three hours of podcasting a day, managing 500 employees.

01:03:23.000 I'm not saying this to have anyone feel sorry for me, but it's a heavy burden at times, especially with the spiritual war.

01:03:28.000 So if you guys could just pray for us, you know, on a regular basis, engage in that, fast for us where appropriate.

01:03:35.000 That's way better than money.

01:03:37.000 You know, the Lord has blessed us with money, and he will continue to.

01:03:40.000 That's really where we could use the biggest help.

01:03:42.000 And then one other way that you guys can help is some of you guys are already there and following us on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

01:03:48.000 It does help us a lot.

01:03:49.000 We're under constant attack by the big tech companies.

01:03:51.000 If you guys aren't already subscribed, you can take out your phone and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast page.

01:03:57.000 I think they have a graphic or something they throw up.

01:04:00.000 And it helps us a lot.

01:04:00.000 We do three podcasts a day.

01:04:02.000 You can follow the QR code.

01:04:03.000 If everyone would do that, it would really help us out.

01:04:06.000 And yeah, John, are you in the way?

01:04:09.000 No, I might.

01:04:10.000 Can you guys see it all right?

01:04:11.000 It's on all these things.

01:04:12.000 I didn't mean to block.

01:04:13.000 And I know it's a little silly, guys, but it's free of charge.

01:04:16.000 My favorite word in the English language is earn.

01:04:19.000 We'd love to earn your ability to be a go-to news source.

01:04:22.000 If you're worried about the election, if you have questions, we cover it extensively from every possible place.

01:04:26.000 You may biblical worldview every day.

01:04:29.000 Every day, we are bringing the Bible straight into the public arena. 0.60

01:04:32.000 And praise God, the podcast has really grown tremendously.

01:04:35.000 Yes.

01:04:37.000 So, well, that's good.

01:04:41.000 Rob had a grandma.

01:04:42.000 Okay, well, then I get to pray.

01:04:45.000 And so I'm going to pray for you, Charlie.

01:04:49.000 Oh, you can sit.

01:04:50.000 Because you're so tall, people won't be able to see me.

01:04:54.000 And Greg, why don't you come up here with me?

01:04:56.000 My buddy Greg's going to come up.

01:04:57.000 Pastor Greg, yeah.

01:04:59.000 Good friend.

01:05:03.000 And so we're going to pray.

01:05:04.000 Hey, buddy, let me give you a hug.

01:05:05.000 I didn't even know you'd be able to do it.

01:05:06.000 Good to see you, John.

01:05:07.000 Thanks, bro.

01:05:08.000 Appreciate that.

01:05:08.000 All right.

01:05:10.000 You guys, let's pray for this young man, all right?

01:05:12.000 And his team.

01:05:13.000 Let's hold him up.

01:05:15.000 Father, in the name of Jesus, we come before you tonight.

01:05:18.000 Lord, we are so grateful, Lord, for what you're doing in and through Charlie's life.

01:05:23.000 Lord, we know it's not just him.

01:05:25.000 There's a remnant, Lord, of people that are alongside of him.

01:05:25.000 There's a group.

01:05:29.000 And God, we pray that he would see this fight through, Lord, that you would strengthen him in the inner man.

01:05:34.000 Lord, we pray for all of the engagements, everything that's on the horizon, all that he's doing.

01:05:39.000 God, we pray that you would go before him.

01:05:41.000 Lord, your word says that you are the master of breakthrough.

01:05:44.000 Lord, we pray for breakthrough this year.

01:05:47.000 Lord, in every way, Lord, we pray that the gospel would go forward.

01:05:50.000 We pray that things would change in our nation.

01:05:52.000 God, we pray that people would turn to you.

01:05:54.000 We pray that Christians would get off the bench and into the game.

01:05:57.000 Lord, we pray that pastors would stand up and be bold proclaimers of truth, unashamed, unfearful, Lord.

01:06:05.000 God, we pray that you would pour out your spirit on our brother in greater measure.

01:06:09.000 Bless him, his wife, his family, Lord.

01:06:12.000 We lift them up to you.

01:06:13.000 Lord, take us from this place, Lord.

01:06:16.000 Help us to be bold.

01:06:17.000 Help us to be light and salt in this world until you come again.

01:06:22.000 And we ask this in the name of Jesus.

01:06:24.000 And all God's people said, Amen.

01:06:27.000 We love you, brothers.

01:06:28.000 We love you.

01:06:29.000 Thank you.

01:06:30.000 Thanks so much for listening.

01:06:31.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

01:06:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 07, 2024

Can a Church Be Too Political?

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