The Charlie Kirk Show - Can Big Money Beat MAGA?

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00:00:07.000 Tyler Boyer from Turning Point Action joins us as we recap what happened in Arizona and also some of the lessons from everything that happened across the country.

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00:01:09.000 I'm joined by Tyler Boyer, runs Turning Point Action.

00:01:12.000 That's a great job.

00:01:13.000 He's also the committee man for the state of Arizona.

00:01:15.000 You were up to like 5 a.m. last night.

00:01:16.000 It was a long night, but it was a fun night.

00:01:18.000 Boy, there's a lot to unpack.

00:01:20.000 But let's start with just the top line news.

00:01:22.000 First, let's go from east to west.

00:01:25.000 Michigan, Tudor Dixon, won.

00:01:27.000 Trump endorsed.

00:01:28.000 Very exciting candidate.

00:01:29.000 Yeah, Tudor, we actually know pretty well.

00:01:32.000 She's actually been a big supporter of Turning Point for a long time.

00:01:35.000 So we're really excited about her.

00:01:36.000 Former RAV host.

00:01:37.000 Former RAV host.

00:01:38.000 Wonderful.

00:01:40.000 And yeah, I think that you saw some of that carry over to.

00:01:44.000 I mean, Michigan's a Trump state, clearly, because John Gibbs who had absolutely, you know, on, if you looked on paper 20 years ago and you saw a candidate like John Gibbs, you'd be like, the guy has no chance, no shot, right?

00:01:58.000 Yep.

00:01:59.000 And today it's a different world where, you know, the elector is paying a lot more attention.

00:02:04.000 And, you know, Peter Meyer and his whole gang of like, just do whatever you want and don't care about the Republican Party.

00:02:11.000 Those days are over, clearly.

00:02:12.000 Well, they are over.

00:02:13.000 He lost.

00:02:15.000 Yeah.

00:02:15.000 And so Peter Meyer voted for impeachment.

00:02:18.000 Super snake.

00:02:19.000 It's more than that, though.

00:02:21.000 I mean, what some people are talking about, we'll talk about Megan McCain's tweet today.

00:02:26.000 We'll get to Arizona.

00:02:27.000 We're going to get to what we'll get there.

00:02:29.000 But the establishment, what they don't understand and what they are really dealing with right now is they haven't worked with the Republican Party for years.

00:02:37.000 They haven't cared about the Republican Party.

00:02:39.000 They haven't cared about the grassroots.

00:02:41.000 And what we're seeing is this whole revival of this real grassroots movement.

00:02:45.000 Something that you saw, you know, between like in the 70s really start to, you know, cause the Reagan Revolution.

00:02:52.000 And I think that's where we're at right now is that like post-Goldwater, pre-Reagan Revolution era.

00:02:58.000 Where the grassroots is waking up.

00:03:00.000 Yeah, it's, and you're seeing it in every state.

00:03:02.000 So then going east to west, and we will, we'll cover Kansas later in the show, everybody.

00:03:06.000 That's a very complicated topic with the abortion thing.

00:03:08.000 It's a disappointment, but I've we'll unpack that later.

00:03:10.000 So then Missouri, Eric Schmidt won.

00:03:13.000 There was also Eric Grichtons.

00:03:15.000 And then, of course, we go to Arizona.

00:03:17.000 So last night, there was so much confusion and chaos around the results in Arizona.

00:03:22.000 But it looks as if every single Trump-endorsed candidate in Arizona has won.

00:03:29.000 Is that correct?

00:03:30.000 Every single Trump-endorsed candidate.

00:03:31.000 And I want to tell you a story that most people don't know about.

00:03:34.000 And this is the difference.

00:03:35.000 Again, this goes similar to the Peter Meyer situation.

00:03:39.000 So the opposite of Peter Meyer is Carrie Lake. 1.00

00:03:42.000 And I'll explain to you why.

00:03:43.000 Carrie Lake was running for governor. 0.96

00:03:46.000 She is very much a turning point type style of candidate.

00:03:51.000 We've known her for a long time.

00:03:53.000 Young, energetic, enthusiastic.

00:03:55.000 But the difference between Kerry and her opponent is this. 0.56

00:04:00.000 She was more concerned about those around her and what it would look like to govern in the future if she became governor than just winning an election. 0.82

00:04:09.000 And so what she did was most candidates would go in and they would ask Trump for favors.

00:04:14.000 They would say, endorse me and talk about me, yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:04:17.000 You know what Kerry Lake was doing?

00:04:19.000 She was advocating for Trump to endorse basically no-name people.

00:04:23.000 Like Janae.

00:04:24.000 Like Janae Champ over in the West Valley. 0.57

00:04:28.000 A state Senate race.

00:04:30.000 David Farnsworth, who had to knock out Rusty Bowers, who blocked election attack.

00:04:34.000 So people are like, is Kerry Lake the real deal?

00:04:37.000 Kerry Lake is the real deal because she sat down, figured out with us that that was the right thing to do, did the right thing, encouraged Trump.

00:04:44.000 And so Trump endorsed those people, largely because of Carrie Lake.

00:04:47.000 Kelly Ward was also super involved, but Kerry Lake did that. 0.90

00:04:50.000 She used her political capital to help down ballot candidates. 1.00

00:04:53.000 Instead of herself.

00:04:54.000 And that is a great, great sign, people, of someone that can be not just a great candidate for governor, not just a great governor, but a great movement leader for decades.

00:05:04.000 So, you know, we're getting a lot of emails now.

00:05:06.000 You guys can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com where people are breathing a sigh of relief.

00:05:10.000 But last night it was really nerve-wracking, right?

00:05:12.000 There looked to be this 40,000 vote delta where Karen Taylor Robeson had this lead and people were very nervous.

00:05:20.000 Again, we have people in the audience that are supporters of Kerry Lake and Kerry Robeson, but definitely a majority of Kerry Lake supporters in the audience.

00:05:27.000 However, we walked through the numbers and we said, there's an unusual way we do voting here in Arizona.

00:05:33.000 And even some of the experts, though, were like, Karen Taylor Robeson's going to win. 0.84

00:05:36.000 How is it that the experts couldn't see so patently in front of them that there was going to be this resurgence of same-day Kerry Lake voters?

00:05:44.000 But also, Tyler, talk about the 125,000 people that went into the ballot.

00:05:49.000 That was an unbelievable number.

00:05:51.000 Those are like the 2,000 Mule fans, basically.

00:05:54.000 Well, I mean, guys, so the elections in Arizona are now so screwed up because of guys like Bill Gates and Stephen Richer and others who have aided Bill Gates, by the way.

00:06:05.000 It's Bill Gates, Arizona.

00:06:06.000 He's a lot shorter, a lot less money.

00:06:08.000 Yep.

00:06:09.000 But he's a county supervisor.

00:06:13.000 Anyways, long story short, what they've done is they've aided Democrats in the California, what I call the California plan, which is come in and implement a California strategy for your elections for your big county and aid them with making things so confusing, so elongated.

00:06:32.000 I mean, here's the reality, and I just tweeted this out on my Twitter is, and you can find me at Tyler Boyer.

00:06:38.000 You can kind of follow the Maricoba county.

00:06:40.000 All Arizona stuff is Tyler.

00:06:41.000 I was the county chairman of Maricoba County for the Republican Party.

00:06:44.000 And ran against the McCain machine.

00:06:46.000 Ran against one.

00:06:46.000 Yeah.

00:06:47.000 And we hosted Trump for the first time.

00:06:48.000 Anyways, what I said to him is, what I tweeted was, you have to have results quickly once the election's over.

00:06:57.000 And so any process that elongates that, that you're going to create confusion.

00:07:01.000 It doesn't matter if you're conservative, if you're a liberal, it doesn't matter.

00:07:06.000 People are not going to be just like okay with you taking hours and hours and hours and days and days and days to get this done.

00:07:13.000 And so they've created a new process that has just totally elongated this unnecessarily.

00:07:19.000 So, and there's 100,000 ballots left to count, but these are the people that came in and gave their ballot day of, basically.

00:07:24.000 Is that right?

00:07:25.000 Yeah.

00:07:25.000 So the day of ballots, so the thing that's at play here and where they've screwed everything up is day of ballot counting, number one.

00:07:34.000 And number two is the drop-offs, so the drop-off ballots.

00:07:41.000 So day of ballots, when you used to vote at the polling place, it was very simple.

00:07:45.000 You would vote into this like old school machine.

00:07:48.000 It would spit out a ticker tape that said the numbers of who won what races.

00:07:52.000 And then they would call the county recorder's office and say, here's the numbers.

00:07:56.000 And then they would report it.

00:07:57.000 So within an hour, everybody knew who won.

00:08:00.000 Now what they've done is these new systems, and we're not allowed to say the company, apparently, that we got to be careful because we could say all these different companies starts with a D and ends in an Ominion.

00:08:11.000 Ominion and starts with S, ends with Mart Maddick.

00:08:15.000 These machines have basically like memory cards, right?

00:08:19.000 And so now what they do, instead of just reading the data and calling it in and reporting it, you know, these are unofficial election results until the official canvas comes out anyways.

00:08:27.000 This is all unofficial.

00:08:28.000 But instead of just doing that in the same way, they wait for these memory cards to get driven in.

00:08:33.000 And I don't know what in the world takes five hours to read memory cards, but it took them literally five hours to read these memory cards last night.

00:08:42.000 Well, here's my theory.

00:08:43.000 So my theory is this.

00:08:44.000 My theory is that MAGA showed up huge, overwhelmed the system, and they wanted to rob an election night party, speech, totally, and transition.

00:08:52.000 Totally.

00:08:53.000 And they would rather have this kind of murky, like, oh, she's the nominee a couple weeks later.

00:08:58.000 The establishment did not want to have this decisive, declarative, headline-grabbing MAGA win.

00:09:04.000 They would rather have this multi-day kind of drip, drip, drip, drip, where it kind of feels as if, like, oh, okay, I guess she's the nominee now.

00:09:15.000 They don't want that transition of momentum.

00:09:18.000 Is that fair to say super quick?

00:09:19.000 Yes, absolutely. 0.98

00:09:20.000 And that's, that's where I think these, these Republicans that have aided the Democrats are so stupid is because, look, guys, it does the Republican Party no favors for you guys to drag this out to create infighting, which is exactly what they've done for the last two election cycles. 0.95

00:09:36.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:09:37.000 And so basically, just so you guys understand the results right now, there's 100,000 votes left outstanding to vote.

00:09:42.000 They should be overwhelmingly Carrie Lake and overwhelmingly Blake Masters. 0.91

00:09:47.000 So Carrie's votes yesterday broke. 0.99

00:09:50.000 She won 67% of the day of these are on top of it.

00:09:53.000 These are probably, I think, 70 to 80% because these are the mule people. 1.00

00:09:57.000 I would agree.

00:09:58.000 I think so too.

00:09:59.000 And I agree.

00:10:00.000 We called that on the program.

00:10:01.000 These are the people that are so skeptical.

00:10:03.000 They went in themselves and gave the ballot.

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00:13:51.000 So, Donald Trump made some pretty bold endorsements here in Arizona.

00:13:54.000 So, Blake Masters has won.

00:13:57.000 Mark Fincham has won.

00:13:59.000 Rusty Bowers, who testified in front of the J6 committee, has lost.

00:14:03.000 And Farnsworth in opposition has won.

00:14:07.000 And looks like Kerry is going to win.

00:14:09.000 There's 100,000 ballots outstanding.

00:14:11.000 People are a little worried.

00:14:12.000 They say, Can they still do some shenanigans with those 100,000 ballots?

00:14:15.000 But talk about the type of voters and what are these ballots, Tyler.

00:14:18.000 These are the people that went to a vote processing center on the day of the election and then put in their ballot.

00:14:24.000 Of which, for example, my wife and my mother-in-law, they're like, We don't trust the mail-in system.

00:14:28.000 We're literally going to go give our battle.

00:14:30.000 I just thought of that as an archetype example of hard R's that did that. 0.93

00:14:34.000 Am I right?

00:14:35.000 Yeah, I mean, I didn't see the final number, but most of yesterday was trending.

00:14:40.000 Like 85% of all the votes that were cast yesterday were Republican.

00:14:44.000 And clearly, the day of votes that were that were cast yesterday were 67% in favor of Kerry Lake, which tells you that there's probably the likelihood is probably going to be a 60-something percent number for those early ballots that were dropped off because it's the same kind of people because they're confused, right?

00:15:03.000 Because what the Democrats have done is confused everybody.

00:15:06.000 It's almost a strategy of confusion, right?

00:15:08.000 It's a strategy of confusion, in my opinion, because it didn't used to be this way, right?

00:15:12.000 It was, oh, you know, mail-in ballot is a just-in-case thing.

00:15:16.000 You mail it in early.

00:15:17.000 And if you don't, you go to the polling place.

00:15:19.000 Now it's like, now they've put so much emphasis.

00:15:21.000 It's like, oh, you can do, you can vote this way and that way and backwards and on your house and with a fox and a box and with a house and a mouse.

00:15:27.000 And the Democrats have done this so much that it's in their effort.

00:15:32.000 And I honestly believe that there's a lot of good Democrats that are like, I really care about people having access to vote.

00:15:38.000 And that's fair.

00:15:39.000 That's a fair argument.

00:15:40.000 But the Democrat voters, not the operators.

00:15:42.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:15:43.000 The voters in their quest to support that, they've actually made things far more confusing.

00:15:49.000 And I would even argue even more difficult, which we talked about yesterday, which is that in rural and suburban areas like Scottsdale, because they've eliminated the crepe vote centers, which are bigger, you know, I call them the Walmart of polling places.

00:16:03.000 They're unnecessarily creating these massive bureaucracies.

00:16:06.000 We need mom and pop shopping.

00:16:10.000 This is why Iowa gets their results immediately because they have counties everywhere and there's someone accounting.

00:16:10.000 I was at the point last night.

00:16:15.000 They have 99 counties, right?

00:16:17.000 Everywhere.

00:16:17.000 Every 308 counties or something like that.

00:16:19.000 Everybody knows everybody in those 99 counties.

00:16:21.000 But then every one of those counties has someone who's responsible for the precincts.

00:16:24.000 And so they divide the labor.

00:16:26.000 What you have in Arizona is a monster county.

00:16:29.000 How many people are in Maricopa County?

00:16:31.000 4 million people, 5 million people?

00:16:32.000 Yeah, I mean, we're trending towards five.

00:16:35.000 I mean, that's five Montanas about.

00:16:38.000 So you have Maricopa County of five Montanas, and they all have to bring these trucks of ballots into a vote processing center.

00:16:46.000 And I mean, what it does, Tyler, also, I think you made this point.

00:16:50.000 If you're trying to restore people's faith in the process, this is the worst way to do it.

00:16:55.000 Right?

00:16:56.000 I mean, just from an appearance standpoint, when you cannot have a winner on election night, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do it.

00:17:03.000 So basically, here's the latest out of Arizona: Blake Masters has won.

00:17:07.000 Mark Fincham has won.

00:17:09.000 Abe Hamada has won.

00:17:11.000 And are you confident to say that Kerry Lake has won?

00:17:14.000 Yeah, I mean, the likelihood of Kerry losing at this point is so low that I'm willing to go to my RC meeting tonight.

00:17:22.000 So if that wasn't the case, I'd probably stick around.

00:17:25.000 But I mean, look, here's the reality: is that, and this is what the actual audience needs to know.

00:17:31.000 The reason the big question I think we've seen a number of people ask is like, well, why are they doing all this, Charlie?

00:17:37.000 Why are they pushing us towards these insane election procedures?

00:17:41.000 Well, they want to create confusion and they want to eliminate precinct voting.

00:17:46.000 And the big question is, well, how do they do that?

00:17:49.000 Well, let's look to California.

00:17:50.000 If you want to know how to mess up a state, just go to California.

00:17:54.000 Or Colorado.

00:17:55.000 Yeah, very simple.

00:17:56.000 But California has done everything.

00:17:58.000 They've led on every bad election procedure and policy in the country.

00:18:03.000 And as most of you know, they've instituted jungle primaries there.

00:18:07.000 So that's what we're waiting to watch and see in Washington with the Joe Kent race.

00:18:11.000 And I know a lot of people are really involved with that.

00:18:14.000 They have a top two primary.

00:18:15.000 So two Republicans could come out of that district, a Republican and Democrat.

00:18:19.000 It's the top two vote getters.

00:18:20.000 Has there been a call yet in that?

00:18:22.000 There hasn't been.

00:18:23.000 There's been some indication, but apparently they haven't counted the day of votes yet there in Washington.

00:18:29.000 And so this is we're watching this.

00:18:34.000 What they want to do is they want to totally hijack our system.

00:18:38.000 They want to get rid of precinct voting.

00:18:40.000 They want to create these massive vote centers.

00:18:42.000 Why?

00:18:43.000 Like a post office type model.

00:18:45.000 Well, the Soviet Union, the way that they were able to control people for so long was they stacked everybody on top of each other. 0.93

00:18:51.000 So you all lived in an apartment complex that you were all there within one square mile, and they would control your vote, right?

00:18:59.000 They wanted one party, one vote.

00:19:02.000 They can control you.

00:19:03.000 They knew where you were.

00:19:04.000 They could make influence on you.

00:19:06.000 And that's what they're really trying to do.

00:19:08.000 And so we're going to get into the voting systems in the future.

00:19:11.000 Mark Fincham is going to be the nominee for Republicans.

00:19:14.000 He's promising to fix a lot of this as Secretary of State.

00:19:16.000 He's going to have a tough race in the general.

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00:20:21.000 I'm going to read an email I got last night.

00:20:23.000 And by the way, I don't consider this, this doesn't offend me.

00:20:27.000 I don't consider it to be an insult.

00:20:28.000 I just want to kind of go through the sentiment, though, because I know some people had this sentiment.

00:20:32.000 We got a lot of nasty emails last night.

00:20:34.000 Someone said, Charlie, you are clueless about the election. 0.97

00:20:38.000 You are so naive.

00:20:40.000 These are elections are easy to steal.

00:20:43.000 Katie Hobbs will never let Carrie win. 1.00

00:20:46.000 Why are they letting Blake win?

00:20:47.000 He's a one out of 100, not a threat. 1.00

00:20:50.000 That way, idiots like yourself think there is integrity in the elections. 1.00

00:20:53.000 Wake up, clueless Charlie. 1.00

00:20:55.000 You are too full of yourself, Bruce.

00:20:57.000 Look, we could go through that email and what I think is wrong about that sentiment.

00:21:01.000 But I do want to just say, though, that a lot of you probably felt that last night.

00:21:05.000 You said, oh, my goodness, they're going through it again.

00:21:08.000 They're doing all of this.

00:21:10.000 But we can't stop voting and we can't stop showing up.

00:21:15.000 Just look what happened last night.

00:21:19.000 It shows that there is still an ability to overwhelm all the shenanigans, to overwhelm all of the problems with the process.

00:21:28.000 And so I know a lot of people have PTSD and like, my goodness, they're doing it again.

00:21:33.000 And by the way, it's not over.

00:21:34.000 There's still 100,000 ballots outstanding.

00:21:37.000 But I can say confidently, based on everything we know about those ballots and who actually turned them out, I think the confident winner is Carrie Lake.

00:21:46.000 She could actually end up winning, in my opinion, by 30 to 40,000 votes. 0.92

00:21:51.000 Now, here's something very important: that when we look at how to design our elections or redesign them, we need local control.

00:21:59.000 Tyler was just talking about this.

00:22:01.000 No more of these central vote processing centers.

00:22:05.000 We need to be able to have local elections.

00:22:08.000 Local elections are a threat to centralized tyranny.

00:22:11.000 It is much harder to cut corners when you have a lot of independent nodes that are operating than one central place that can be controlled from the top down.

00:22:23.000 It's very important.

00:22:25.000 Local, bottom-up, is far more transparent.

00:22:28.000 And by the way, isn't that the way the Constitution is designed?

00:22:32.000 And so, Arizona, despite all of this, I want to just give a little bit of a shout out and give a little bit of an encouragement to you.

00:22:44.000 Despite all of this, you still showed up.

00:22:47.000 Despite all of these problems, you still turned out.

00:22:50.000 And for those of you that didn't turn out, because like, oh, forget it, my vote doesn't count.

00:22:54.000 Well, that's not true.

00:22:56.000 So maybe you'll reconsider in November.

00:22:58.000 Now, some of you say, Charlie, the elections, we still use all these different processes.

00:23:02.000 You're right.

00:23:03.000 But is the solution then to stay at home?

00:23:05.000 No, we have to then try to win as many of these races despite all of this.

00:23:09.000 And I acknowledge all the challenges.

00:23:11.000 I acknowledge that Arizona does elections like a third world country.

00:23:14.000 Despite all of this, every single county, despite all of that, went to Cary Lake.

00:23:20.000 And the Phoenix metro area, Maricopa County, there's still a lot of votes outstanding there, 100,000 votes outstanding, of which are people that went specifically on day of and brought their ballot in.

00:23:32.000 And even if Carrie Lake only goes 50-50 out of those, which she'll do much better than that, 60 or 70, probably percent in favor of that, the race is over. 0.96

00:23:41.000 There are still massive problems with our elections.

00:23:44.000 What happened in Pinal County, ballot shortages, lines, this Sharpie thing.

00:23:50.000 But Patriots in Arizona didn't let that stop them.

00:23:54.000 That should be a lesson for all of us, right?

00:23:56.000 No matter where you are across the country, the worst thing you can do is to allow your doubts of the election system to make you stay at home.

00:24:09.000 That is the worst thing you can do.

00:24:13.000 Someone just emailed us, Charlie, you got us through your evening with your Kerry Lake predictions.

00:24:17.000 You nailed it too.

00:24:18.000 Thank you.

00:24:19.000 We just crunched the numbers when everyone else was kind of in a portion of hysteria.

00:24:26.000 You know, I was going through some of the blogs last night of the experts, and they said, oh, wow, 40,000, very tough for Kerry Lake to overcome, looking very bad.

00:24:35.000 We got a lot of emails, a lot of people that were kind of not really happy about things.

00:24:39.000 We said, hold on, just those aren't the numbers here.

00:24:43.000 Because again, the way Arizona does elections for a New York Times reporter who doesn't live here, they come in and say, wow, this is a big lead, hard to overcome.

00:24:51.000 Just like, slow down a little bit.

00:24:54.000 How many day of votes is she winning? 1.00

00:24:56.000 And then the MAGA voters were far less likely to put their ballot in a mail-in container or mail-in package and then move on.

00:25:09.000 So let me tell you what's going to happen next.

00:25:12.000 So Kerry Lake is going to be the Republican nominee in Arizona. 0.99

00:25:14.000 I could say that confidently.

00:25:15.000 Blake Masters already is.

00:25:16.000 So here's what happens next.

00:25:17.000 And they're doing this with JD Vance in Ohio, which is the Republican establishment would much rather have a Democrat that they can work with than a Republican who could actually get stuff done.

00:25:36.000 So we got to get to work.

00:25:38.000 And we're going to be doing this on our program nonstop.

00:25:40.000 We're going to be covering this all the way to the midterms.

00:25:43.000 But let me warn you about what's about to happen next.

00:25:46.000 A nonstop flurry of demoralization polls are about to be published.

00:25:52.000 For example, you're going to see a poll in the next couple of days.

00:25:54.000 I guarantee it.

00:25:56.000 You could take it to the bank that shows Katie Hobbs up six to 10 points on Kerry Lake.

00:26:00.000 I guarantee it.

00:26:01.000 It's a fake suppression poll designed to make you give up.

00:26:06.000 JD Vance, down five points to Tim Ryan in Ohio.

00:26:09.000 He's not down five points to Tim Ryan in Ohio. 0.99

00:26:11.000 It's a garbage poll. 0.95

00:26:12.000 Herschel Walker down big time in Georgia. 1.00

00:26:14.000 Why do they do this?

00:26:15.000 To try to prevent volunteer activism, donations, engagement, and overall enthusiasm.

00:26:22.000 These are suppression polls, period.

00:26:26.000 And take it from a team here, the Charlie Kirk show team, that studies this stuff.

00:26:31.000 I'll tell you when to worry, as the great Rush Lumbaugh used to say.

00:26:35.000 I do worry about some Republican complacency.

00:26:38.000 I told you that a couple days ago.

00:26:39.000 That's separate than these suppression polls.

00:26:41.000 But make no mistake, if it was a Republican establishment candidate, they don't do those suppression polls.

00:26:47.000 They do the opposite.

00:26:48.000 Why is that?

00:26:49.000 Because they actually want to boost the donations for that candidate because it's so hard for them to raise money otherwise.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, let's go to a piece of tape here.

00:26:58.000 This is from MSNBC Morning Joe, Cut 38, trying to fearmonger about the big lie candidates like Blake and Kerry winning.

00:27:05.000 We need all of you guys, okay?

00:27:09.000 We need all of you guys united together to get behind MAGA America First candidates because suppression polls and demoralization polls.

00:27:15.000 Let me just tell you again that the Republican establishment would rather have Mark Kelly than Blake Masters.

00:27:26.000 The Republican establishment would rather have Katie Hobbs than Kerry Lake. 0.99

00:27:33.000 We've beat the Republican establishment before, but they're going to do everything they can to make sure the money's not raised and they win in other places that they can control.

00:27:42.000 Don't fall for it.

00:27:43.000 It's going to require grassroots muscle movement.

00:27:46.000 Okay, let's play cut 38, please.

00:27:48.000 Tuesday's primary is also a critical test of former President Trump's grip on the GOP.

00:27:53.000 And for now, it still appears strong in Arizona.

00:27:56.000 The scale's tipping for him and candidates who have questioned the legitimate results of the 2020 election.

00:28:01.000 NBC News projecting Mr. Trump's preferred candidate, Blake Masters, winning the Republican Senate nomination.

00:28:08.000 And in the GOP primary for governor, Carrie Lake, whom the former president prefers, pulling ahead against her opponent, Karen Taylor Robeson.

00:28:19.000 Lake, a former TV host, has amplified Mr. Trump's lies about a stolen election in 2020 while claiming without evidence her primary race is rigged.

00:28:28.000 Questioned by NBC's Vaughn Hilliard.

00:28:30.000 So you know about a crime, and yet you're not apporting it to authorities.

00:28:34.000 And I'm not telling you quick.

00:28:36.000 Robeson, endorsed by former Vice President Mike Pence, says Lake is unfit to hold office.

00:28:41.000 The voters of Arizona deserved better for a candidate to come out and say there's been fraud before a vote has even been cast is crazy.

00:28:49.000 It is disqualifying.

00:28:50.000 And she simply isn't fit for the job. 1.00

00:28:53.000 And Rusty Bowers, star witness of the January 6th hearings and the Republican speaker of the Arizona House, projected to lose his primary just weeks after testifying.

00:29:02.000 In Michigan, GOP Congressman Peter Meyer, who voted to impeach Mr. Trump over the January 6th insurrection, conceded overnight to his Trump-backed opponent, John Gibbs.

00:29:11.000 Trump-endorsed conservative commentator Tudor Dixon has emerged as the GOP nominee for governor, facing an uphill battle against incumbent Democrat Gretchen Whitmer. 0.84

00:29:20.000 The wicked witch of the West. 0.92

00:29:22.000 Boy, there are so many lies in that. 0.98

00:29:23.000 So that was MSNBC.

00:29:24.000 Okay, first of all, it's on insurrection, all that stuff.

00:29:26.000 We can get to that later.

00:29:27.000 But it was very interesting to show how they were covering that.

00:29:32.000 And so, by the way, this was a tweet last night by someone who all of the Washington, D.C. regime media considers to be an expert.

00:29:40.000 All the smart people in Washington, D.C. consider him to be the expert.

00:29:45.000 And quite honestly, I look to him for guidance in states I don't live in.

00:29:50.000 When you live a certain place, we live in Arizona.

00:29:53.000 So, look, Dave Wasserman is considered an expert.

00:29:56.000 Okay, so he tweeted this out.

00:29:58.000 Dave Wasserman said, Blake Masters, this was early in the night, right?

00:30:02.000 Again, this is why it's so important, guys, to follow factual information and commentators who know what they're talking about, not people like Dave Wasserman, who made an understandable mistake.

00:30:11.000 He's usually right.

00:30:12.000 Okay, he said, look, Blake Masters, 34% looks like it could be good enough to win the Arizona Senate race, while Kerry Lake's 40% doesn't look like it will cut it.

00:30:18.000 I mean, again, this was at 8:44 Arizona time.

00:30:23.000 And all the while, we were looking at the same numbers saying the exact opposite.

00:30:29.000 What's the takeaway?

00:30:30.000 Please stop listening to the mockingbird media.

00:30:33.000 They're not there to help you or to serve you.

00:30:36.000 And even when they were looking at the very same numbers we were looking at, we said, wait a second, she's winning 65% of day of votes. 0.54

00:30:42.000 There's still this 125,000 mail and ballots left.

00:30:46.000 Why are you saying this?

00:30:49.000 They cannot allow what they want to be true different than what is true.

00:30:55.000 And look, I understand as a host, I have very strong opinions about things.

00:31:01.000 As you know, we talk about them all the time.

00:31:03.000 But when I'm talking about results, I don't try to contort them in a way that we want them to be.

00:31:10.000 That would be dishonest to you.

00:31:13.000 You look at what's happening, like, well, we didn't win that one.

00:31:14.000 Or we look at that one, or there were shenanigans here.

00:31:18.000 The experts didn't just get this wrong, they got it wrong in real time.

00:31:22.000 And there is a massive fire alarm being pulled right now in Republican establishment circles.

00:31:30.000 Oh, my text back was: quote, Wasserman has bad info.

00:31:33.000 We said that in our group chat.

00:31:36.000 The expert got it wrong again.

00:31:38.000 So interesting how that works.

00:31:40.000 Somebody emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:43.000 Charlie, when is the water main break going to happen in Maricopa County?

00:31:48.000 Totally get the sentiment, by the way.

00:31:50.000 After 2020, you see, I have to say, our team was impressively stoic yesterday.

00:31:58.000 Right, would you say, Connor?

00:31:59.000 Despite all of what we had around us.

00:32:02.000 And one of the reasons was that I believed that there would be an overwhelm moment.

00:32:11.000 I really did.

00:32:13.000 And it looked as if that's what's happening, by the way.

00:32:15.000 That's not to mean that there weren't people that were like, oh, Republican ballot or this.

00:32:18.000 We will never know part of the extent.

00:32:21.000 Someone just emailed me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:23.000 When can I put away my Vallium and Xanax?

00:32:26.000 I can't rest.

00:32:28.000 I get it.

00:32:30.000 So maybe just lean a little bit on my confidence right now.

00:32:34.000 Maybe just outsource some of your paranoia to me.

00:32:37.000 Let me just tell you, I'm looking at the numbers.

00:32:40.000 I see what is outstanding.

00:32:42.000 When elections are close, it empowers cockroaches to be able to cut corners.

00:32:49.000 When elections are not close, all of a sudden, they're not able to play their games.

00:32:56.000 So just lean into me.

00:32:58.000 If you want confidence, lean on me.

00:33:02.000 Now, you might be wondering, Charlie, why are you so confident right now?

00:33:05.000 Let me tell you why.

00:33:06.000 You know what ballots have not yet been counted in the Arizona race?

00:33:10.000 2,000 mule fans ballots have not yet been counted.

00:33:15.000 That's who.

00:33:17.000 The people, and again, Arizona has this goofy, wacky, nonsensical, unacceptable, bizarre process where they, you know, actually, somebody sent in this amazing graphic last night.

00:33:33.000 If I could try to find it, where it actually goes through the 10-step process of how to count a ballot in Arizona.

00:33:38.000 It's insane.

00:33:39.000 It's unacceptable.

00:33:41.000 When new power takes over, got to fix it.

00:33:44.000 It's a joke.

00:33:45.000 Why am I confident the people?

00:33:49.000 So the way it works in Arizona, so early mail-in votes, so people that put the vote in the mail and they send it in, those get counted first.

00:33:56.000 Those are not going to be your MAGA people.

00:33:59.000 Carrie Lake lost that population rather considerably.

00:34:04.000 Why?

00:34:04.000 Those are people that do not want to put their ballot in a mail-in envelope after everything that happened.

00:34:10.000 So if you know the conservative base, that didn't phase me at all.

00:34:13.000 It phased Dave Wasserman, who's like, wow, Carrie's going to lose.

00:34:16.000 Okay, how about you go talk to a voter that doesn't live in Washington, D.C. Second part of voting that was tabulated, which came in over the evening, is same-day voting.

00:34:26.000 So people that went into an actual vote center and they voted.

00:34:29.000 Okay, we finally got some of that.

00:34:31.000 But then there's a third category, which is the most just the most, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:34:41.000 Most important to understand and honestly should be counted the same as the other, which are people that were so worried about mail-in voting, they got a mail-in ballot to their home.

00:34:51.000 So these are people that used to trust mail-in balloting, which is a lot of Republicans.

00:34:55.000 They got a mail to their home, mail-in their home, like my wife. 0.63

00:34:58.000 She didn't trust putting it in the mail, the envelope because she watched 2,000 Mules.

00:35:04.000 And she showed up to the vote processing center and said, here's my vote. 0.82

00:35:08.000 Here's my ballot, I should say.

00:35:10.000 And they take the ballot and they process it.

00:35:12.000 There's 125,000 of those.

00:35:16.000 Those are grassroots 2,000 mule MAGA people that I believe Carrie Lake will win 70 to 30% of those, anywhere to 70 to 80% of those.

00:35:24.000 Said differently, Carrie Lake maintains a 12,000 vote lead. 1.00

00:35:31.000 Very possible, she ends up winning by 30 to 40,000 votes.

00:35:34.000 Very possible.

00:35:36.000 And that also is the same for Pima.

00:35:39.000 That's the same for parts of Pinal, the same for parts of Coconino.

00:35:42.000 So Cary Lake is winning every other county except Maricopa, and they haven't even fully reported their counties.

00:35:48.000 So those margins should only increase from this point forward.

00:35:53.000 The third category is your ultra-maga people that haven't even been counted yet. 0.99

00:35:58.000 But don't ask the New York Times.

00:35:59.000 They don't understand that.

00:36:01.000 They see one result and they're immediately ready to call the race. 0.74

00:36:04.000 We don't do that around here.

00:36:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:09.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:11.000 Thanks so much.

00:36:12.000 Talk to you soon.

00:36:16.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 04, 2022

Can Big Money Beat MAGA?

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