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00:02:07.000So, Senator, the news of the day is that in some ways you found yourself on the other side of this big, beautiful bill from the White House.
00:02:16.000You know, I've heard a lot of the feedback from yourself and from Senator Ron Johnson, and I totally agree that we need to get closer to a balanced budget and just this addiction to spending must end.
00:02:29.000Simultaneously, there's some really good points that were made by the White House.
00:02:32.000We had a long conversation with Stephen Miller.
00:02:34.000I wanted to give you a fair amount of time to make your case.
00:02:37.000Where do you currently stand on the big, beautiful bill and what would potentially get you to a yes?
00:02:42.000You know, I support quite a bit of what's in the bill.
00:02:45.000The tax cuts is the primary aspect of the bill.
00:03:02.000I'm fine with adding to the tax cuts as President Trump wishes.
00:03:05.000So I'm fine with that aspect of the bill.
00:03:07.000And that's a big bulk of the bill that will lead to growth.
00:03:10.000It's what led to low unemployment rates in the first administration and really was a great boon to our country.
00:03:16.000The second part of it, there are some spending cuts.
00:03:20.000I think many of these spending cuts are good.
00:03:23.000I think a lot of them are in the outlying years and may or may not happen.
00:03:27.000Some of them are fake, such as forgiving the student loan forgiveness program or ending the student loan forgiveness program, which the courts have already ended.
00:03:36.000So it's sort of saying, oh, we're going to save money by something Biden was going to do, but the courts have said he couldn't do.
00:04:18.000The debt this year is going to be over $2 trillion, $2.2 trillion.
00:04:22.000And people say, oh, that's Biden's fault.
00:04:25.000Well, it was Biden's fault until March of this year when the Republicans, not me, but most of the Republicans voted to continue the Biden spending levels in a continuing resolution in March of 2025.
00:04:36.000That's what we live under now are the GOP spending levels minus me and a few others.
00:04:42.000So that year ends at the end of September.
00:04:44.000The debt will be $2.2 trillion this year.
00:04:48.000If Republicans also vote to extend the debt ceiling by $5 trillion, then really we lose the power of the argument in our moral standing and saying this is a bunch of Democrat problems.
00:04:58.000Democrats are deficit and spend, big spenders.
00:05:01.000It's not Republicans if the deficit now is completely owned by Republicans.
00:05:07.000I have said that rather than give Congress, which is reckless with spending and has no good history other than adding $30,000, Don't give them a debt ceiling that lasts two years.
00:05:20.000Don't give them $5 trillion worth because they will spend it and they will borrow it.
00:07:01.000But I'm just not going to go against all principle to support $5 trillion in borrowing because I don't know who we would be or where we would be of a movement if nobody opposes this.
00:07:11.000So part of the problem, and I agree with a lot of what you said, Senator, is that the counterargument is that we don't have the votes in the House or the Senate.
00:07:22.000The moderates will not play ball with any dramatic spending adjustments, and we have to play with a very slim majority.
00:07:29.000I imagine your counterargument is that, hey, maybe it's time for those of us that are fiscal conservatives start wielding the same power that these moderates wield.
00:07:37.000What would your reply be to the fact that it might not be possible in this reconciliation bill to get some of the demands that you are articulating?
00:08:12.000They're not negotiating because it's mostly me at this point.
00:08:15.000Now, Ron Johnson has expressed some of the same concerns on the spending and maybe a little bit on the debt ceiling as well, but there aren't four at this point, so they will not negotiate.
00:08:24.000In fact, they've chosen really to go full bore campaign mode against me, so they aren't really caring at all about whether or not I ever cooperate with the White House.
00:08:35.000Because they've chosen to smear and lie about me throughout all the social media outlets by paying these influencers to attack me.
00:08:43.000But I don't think, you know, if they know me at all, they apparently have misjudged me to think that somehow spreading lies about me and pilloring me will somehow cause me to be chastened and, you know, lick the boot.
00:08:58.000And I think what you'll find is that over time, people are going to discover that the debt keeps going.
00:09:04.000The debt is going to go on and on, and it's going to get worse, and there's going to be a crisis in this country, and there needs to be a remnant of conservatives who actually still are fiscally conservative and can argue from that position.
00:09:15.000So the argument against the debt, and correct me if I'm wrong, Senator, is that if we peel out the debt ceiling, then potentially it would need 60 votes as a standalone vote, and it would give a lot more.
00:09:28.000Power to Chuck Schumer to then we'd have other concessions and other liberal boondoggle wishes or aims.
00:10:02.000If they want to do $10 trillion and we can go through the whole term, the whole next term of President Trump and never have to borrow again, Democrats will all vote for that.
00:10:10.000And people say, oh, no, they don't like Donald Trump.
00:10:13.000Well, they voted to raise the debt ceiling in his first term.
00:10:16.000And historically, the debt ceiling has gone up.
00:10:19.000I don't know, maybe a hundred times in the last, maybe not a hundred times, let's say 50 times in the last 30 years.
00:10:25.000Each time it's gone up, it's been all the Democrats vote for it every time, and it's been the big government Republicans.
00:10:32.000But to me, raising the debt ceiling is a day of shame, and they walk down to the front of the floor of the Senate or to the well of the House, and they have to admit that they are the big spenders.
00:10:41.000So the big spenders on the Republican side always vote to raise the debt ceiling, and the Democrats.
00:10:46.000But now you're going to change the dynamic.
00:10:48.000Where it's going to be all Republicans voting to raise the debt ceiling.
00:10:51.000And what you'll wind up with is no Republicans left who can argue with a straight face that it's the Democrats' fault because they will own the debt.
00:10:59.000From now on, the Republicans will own the debt and have no argument against Democrats being the big spenders because they will own the debt.
00:11:05.000I think it's more worrisome than people can imagine unless they've really thought this through.
00:11:11.000So a couple minutes remaining here, Senator, and I agree.
00:11:14.000I believe the national debt is a crisis to our country.
00:11:17.000Would you agree that the invasion under Joe Biden, the immigration we've seen, is also a national crisis facing America?
00:13:09.000It shows that it could have been done under Biden and he never did it.
00:13:12.000But now that it's controlled, shouldn't we at least think about the cost and not say, oh, we're conservative, except when it comes to the border when we're for unlimited spending?
00:13:53.000I want the big, beautiful bill to pass largely because I agree with everything you say, but I believe we're in the midst of a national immigration crisis and we need mass deportations.
00:14:00.000And I think it gets that 80% quotient.
00:14:03.000And so, Senator, my hope is that we can figure out this debt ceiling objection that you have because we'd love to have your vote.
00:14:09.000Because also, remember, it does defund Planned Parenthood, which you and I both have cared about for quite some time.
00:17:41.000What we're talking about here is you'll actually make the Democrat Party stronger.
00:17:46.000And Rand Paul says, and I'll due respect to him, he says, well, the Democrats always vote for every debt increase.
00:17:52.000Yes, they vote for every debt increase once they get concessions.
00:17:56.000Remember, they've been very happy to shut down the government multiple times until they get concessions and then we cave.
00:18:04.000Democrats are getting whipped up into a frenzy again.
00:18:07.000He says they'll never agree to stop raising the debt.
00:18:09.000Well, it used to be that, and that they never agreed to a government shutdown, but they did that in Trump's first term.
00:18:14.000In fact, we've seen this time and time again.
00:18:18.000Democrats tend to get more extreme over time, so if you are tired of Democrats getting wins in D.C., then you kind of need to include the debt ceiling in the reconciliation bill, otherwise you're going to throw it back to a 60-vote threshold.
00:18:35.000And I want to just repeat one other point here, and there's a lot on the border that I do want to respond to, which is, it's not even worth it.
00:18:48.000CBP spends months analyzing the terrain to develop this calculation, which includes motion sentence, monitoring systems, video systems, underground electric cables, anti-tunnel systems, paving and tiling new roads, etc.
00:19:01.000The border price is high to make sure it gets done.
00:19:23.000But the debt ceiling is a very important point because if we went to a 60-vote threshold, You would make Chuck Schumer powerful again.
00:19:32.000And this reconciliation bill makes him weak and powerless and without a victory for multiple years.
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00:20:39.000Believe what you are told by the state.
00:21:12.000And I went from downtown detention back out into the community, talking to people, what happened in Paramount, what happened in Compton, what happened in Inglewood.
00:21:33.000Kalen, what is the truth of what you were reporting on on the lines of front lines in Well, the truth is that these are not a few incidents.
00:21:42.000It's widespread and it's completely intentional.
00:21:46.000And that's just the truth of the matter.
00:21:48.000You can look anywhere around downtown LA and you'll find broken, destroyed.
00:22:35.000So Anthony, independent journalist, Anthony Cabasa does great work.
00:22:39.000Anthony, what percentage of these people that were doing this were quote-unquote professional agitators versus just rank-and-file people participating?
00:22:48.000Yeah, thank you so much for having me, Charlie.
00:22:50.000So what I've been seeing on the ground, I'm actually in L.A. proper, and so I've been able to get to these protests since they began on Friday.
00:22:58.000You have Gavin Newsom that is saying that he's calling in the National Guard, and that is why the escalations have escalated now to violence, but that's just simply not the truth.
00:23:10.000I've been there since day one, which was Friday, and that was a protest against the ICE raids that have been ramping up here in Los Angeles.
00:23:18.000You have a lot of these small organizations here locally that put these things together.
00:23:21.000You have the Black Lives Matter LA chapter.
00:23:24.000You have the PSL, which is a party of socialism and liberation, which is an oxymoron.
00:23:29.000There's no liberation through socialism.
00:23:31.000And there's also the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America.
00:23:34.000On top of that, you have these teacher unions and the SEIU that are making sure that there's flyers for everybody, making sure that masks are being delivered for everyone, that everyone has food and water.
00:23:53.000That is a city next to Compton, California.
00:23:55.000I actually exclusively posted a video that I found of a pallet of bricks conveniently located to where ICE agents were setting up to go out and raid.
00:24:08.000It was a staging area for them to go out into multiple cities.
00:24:10.000But then a local city councilman, a lot of people don't know this, it was a local city councilman.
00:24:16.000That just so happened to be around that location, saw a DHS agent car go inside of the staging area.
00:24:22.000He put out a video saying DHS is getting ready to raid this Home Depot because the staging area was set in front of a Home Depot.
00:24:30.000And that's when people started to come and attack the DHS agents was because of the city council member that made this video saying, guys, they're getting ready.
00:25:00.000So as far as command and control, I think a lot of that is, you know, I'm speculating is going to be on any internal comms, but what I've seen, I,
00:25:22.000You have a lot of the same sort of agitative individuals up front in front of police officers, just continually hurling insults, things that are racist, things that are absolutely disgusting.
00:25:41.000And then you'll have people sort of behind that that will continually throw things and continually push forward until law enforcement has to start using less lethal weapons to get these people to back off.
00:26:01.000But yeah, there are There's something more there that doesn't necessarily appear obvious just to anyone who is just viewing these things for the first time.
00:26:19.000So, Anthony, what is the truth here of this?
00:26:24.000There were bricks and rocks and cinder blocks being stored, and do you have a sense that any of this is paid or organized?
00:26:34.000You know, to list the small group of organizations, you have the SEIU, you have the Local Teachers Union, UTLA, that's out there funding all of this.
00:26:42.000You have the PSL, Party of Socialism and Liberation, you have Black Lives Matter.
00:26:46.000All these organizations have money, you know.
00:26:51.000They're putting out all these links online to help donate to fight back, quote-unquote, fascism.
00:26:56.000You need to help us fight Trump and this fascist Gestapo that are descending upon Los Angeles.
00:27:01.000So that's why you see that it's very well organized.
00:27:03.000You see it's out there that, for some reason, there's pallets of bricks conveniently located.
00:27:08.000I actually discovered two different sites.
00:27:09.000The first one was kind of dismissed because I discovered the pallet of bricks next to a Home Depot.
00:27:14.000So there was a lot of people trying to deflect and say, well, of course, it's a Home Depot.
00:27:18.000But if you watch that video, It's the only pallet with cylinder blocks out there.
00:27:28.000There's no pallet of anything else Home Depot sells.
00:27:31.000The only pallet that was out and that was used by the protesters was the cylinder blocks that were just conveniently located right in front of the staging area.
00:27:38.000And then on Saturday night, I also went and discovered that there was bricks right next to downtown LA.
00:27:46.000That's the video you're showing right now.
00:27:48.000This was on a corner tucked in, hidden from a plain view, but somehow protesters were able to make their way into it.
00:27:54.000And so what we're seeing here, right, kind of going back to what I had said, was that...
00:28:17.000that that is what activated President or what led to President Trump.
00:28:22.000Activate the National Guard and then essentially the Marines to act as interim until the National Guard is able to get on scene.
00:28:28.000But another thing that's very important to note is that people are trying to make it seem like it's the National Guard's presence that is inciting the violence, the fact that they're handling protesters.
00:28:38.000That couldn't be further from the truth.
00:28:39.000The reality is the National Guard is being used solely for the purpose of protecting federal buildings.
00:28:53.000And what this does for people that are wondering, well, what's the National Guard there for?
00:28:57.000What you have to understand is you've got to look back at the George Floyd riots, which I also covered from beginning to end all the way to Derek Chauvin's verdict in Minneapolis.
00:29:07.000What you need to remember is police resources are already limited in Los Angeles because not only are they under-resourced and under-staffed, but you have the pandemic that just, you know, we're kind of still kind of going through that.
00:29:20.000A lot of first responders were fired for failing to obey city mandates on masks or vaccines or what have you.
00:29:27.000And so what this does is it gives the law enforcement the time and the effort to be able to solely focus on arresting protesters and containment while the Federal National Guard and potentially the Marines are only going to be taking care of the buildings.
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00:31:32.000They're extremely unpredictable and violent.
00:31:35.000And so you're watching out for them, then you're also trying to make sure that you're not going to be mistaken for one of them while you're If you see a burning American flag, let's go document that.
00:31:53.000If you see somebody breaking into a store and they're robbing all the Jordans, let's go document that.
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00:32:17.000So Anthony, let me ask you, first plug your social, Anthony, and then I want to ask, walk your audience through what you do.
00:34:42.000I actually have, believe it or not, emails from ACLU and other left-wing kind of law firms that are begging me to join their lawsuits against Donald Trump and the federal government.