The Charlie Kirk Show - November 12, 2025


Can President Trump Win Back the Youth?


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Mark Halperin and Andrew Colvitt are joined by Charlie Kirk to discuss the impact of the shutdown on the Democratic Party, and why they think it's time for Chuck Schumer to go. Plus, a look at why the Democratic response to the shutdown is actually a good one.

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00:01:09.000 All right, our two underway here at the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000 I'm Andrew Colvitt, executive producer with Blake Neff, and we are joined by Mark Halperin, editor-in-chief of Two-Way and also host of Next Up on the Megan Kelly Network and one of the best political analysts that I know.
00:01:28.000 And every time I bring up Mark's name around, everybody goes, he's real good at politics.
00:01:32.000 He's real.
00:01:32.000 Very smart guy.
00:01:34.000 Real smart guy.
00:01:35.000 Mark Halperin, welcome to the show, my friend.
00:01:37.000 Good to see you.
00:01:39.000 We are real close to officially being done with this shutdown.
00:01:44.000 It looks like it passed the Senate hurdle, which was the big one last evening, and now it's on to the House.
00:01:51.000 There's probably some procedural delays, I'm sure, that they're throwing up, and then they'll get to the business.
00:01:57.000 Boil it all down for us.
00:01:59.000 I mean, what are we saying?
00:02:00.000 I mean, it's like last week, all I heard was about a Republican Civil War, conservative civil war, and then in one fell swoop, you got enough Democrats to break ranks, and now we've got a Democrat Civil War.
00:02:14.000 Please make sense of what's happening.
00:02:16.000 Well, a Republican Civil War after the election nine or 10 months, oh no, a week ago.
00:02:22.000 It's rare to have two tentpole events like that roaring in opposite, diametrically opposite points of view.
00:02:30.000 I think right now, and I talked about this on Next Up today, almost everything that happens can be seen through the prism of the renegades, the populace versus the establishment.
00:02:44.000 You're seeing that in the Republican Party.
00:02:45.000 You're seeing that in the Democratic Party.
00:02:48.000 And I think the populist wing of the Democratic Party is super energized by Donald Trump.
00:02:54.000 And the populist wing of the Democratic Party also has a political death wish because they wanted to continue to try to get Donald Trump to give up on the shutdown.
00:03:04.000 And it was clear to eight Senate Democrats that he wouldn't.
00:03:08.000 So the whole politics of both those stories revolve around Trump.
00:03:13.000 On the negative side, he energizes the Democrats.
00:03:16.000 On the negative side for the Republicans, he energizes the Democrats.
00:03:20.000 On the negative side for the Democrats, he causes Trump derangement syndrome.
00:03:24.000 And Democrats on the left who are complaining now, some privately are glad the shutdown's over, but the ones on the left who wanted to continue the fight just, they can't think straight when it comes to political combat with Donald Trump.
00:03:37.000 Yeah, and I'm fascinated about this dynamic that we see playing out right now.
00:03:41.000 You've almost got kind of a Rokana versus Hakeem Jeffries dynamic happening with Roquanna saying, Schumer's got to go.
00:03:50.000 You heard this from Sonny Hostin on The View and others that are saying it's time to go.
00:03:54.000 It was a congressman out of Massachusetts, right?
00:03:57.000 The one that was about to get primaried for not wanting his daughter to play trans athletes.
00:04:03.000 Seth Moulton.
00:04:04.000 Yeah, Seth Moulton.
00:04:05.000 That's right.
00:04:06.000 So he's getting, you know, he's now on the Schumer's got to go.
00:04:12.000 I mean, this is a really fascinating dynamic because Hakeem Jeffries sort of at the last moment decided to endorse Mamdani.
00:04:20.000 And you can just feel Hakeem Jeffries getting pulled in either direction.
00:04:24.000 It's almost like it's excruciating to watch on some level.
00:04:28.000 And he's trying, now he's out attacking the Supreme Court as corrupt.
00:04:31.000 It's a clip I just saw.
00:04:33.000 It's almost like he's looking for avenues to advance positive lines and to solidify his bona fides as a progressive in this caucus that is increasingly getting controlled by the radical left.
00:04:46.000 So actually, I have the clip here.
00:04:47.000 Let's just go ahead and play it, Mark.
00:04:49.000 171.
00:04:52.000 Cleaning up the corruption that exists in Washington, D.C., in the Congress, at the Supreme Court, and of course, with the Trump administration, the most corrupt administration in American history.
00:05:01.000 So we can actually deliver a country of the people, by the people, and for the people.
00:05:06.000 I just want to be precise.
00:05:08.000 You say the Supreme Court has been corrupt.
00:05:10.000 Is that what you're saying?
00:05:11.000 Yeah, what I'm saying is that the outrageous behavior by individual justices like Clarence Thomas and Justice Alito and the failure to have an ethical code of conduct is corrupt.
00:05:24.000 So what I translate this as, Mark, and you tell me if I'm wrong here, is that this is him saying, okay, yeah, I said that I endorse Schumer.
00:05:32.000 Schumer still got my vote of confidence.
00:05:34.000 But don't worry, progressive wing.
00:05:36.000 I endorse Mamdani.
00:05:37.000 And yes, if we get power back, we're going to nuke the filibuster and we're going to pack the court.
00:05:43.000 All correct, but I'll just say again, my preferred prism currently is not progressive versus moderate, right?
00:05:49.000 It's populist versus establishment.
00:05:53.000 Hakeem Jeffries is establishment.
00:05:55.000 And you know that based on his history, but you also know it because he's one of the few Democrats who's backing Schumer.
00:06:02.000 He's an establishment figure, but he knows the energy in the party is with the populace.
00:06:06.000 So he says things like, you know, he talks about, just like Rokana talks about Jeffrey Epstein, talks about corruption in Washington, talks about special interests, because that's the language of the populace.
00:06:19.000 And right now, he and Schumer are discombobulated because privately, they're for the establishment.
00:06:25.000 They're not populists.
00:06:26.000 They're not fiery renegades trying to tear the house down.
00:06:30.000 They run the house.
00:06:31.000 And so the power structure recognizes that to try to keep power as long as possible, you got to talk the language of the populace.
00:06:38.000 And that's what he's trying to do.
00:06:40.000 But for Schumer, at least, it's not particularly convincing.
00:06:43.000 And that's why he's taking so much heat right now because nobody's buying it.
00:06:47.000 So about that ascendant populist thing, I'd say the biggest populist story on the left is, of course, Zoe Ron Mamdani, runs for mayor of New York, wins.
00:06:57.000 So do you think we might do you see that basically this factional struggle is going to just be everyone stares at New York, sees what happens with Mamdani's government, and if it fails quickly, will that sap its energy?
00:07:11.000 Or do you think if he's able to do things that that will draw, it'll drive the party further to the left?
00:07:16.000 Maybe even if it's not that successful, it still might drive the party to the left.
00:07:19.000 How do you see that playing out?
00:07:20.000 You're asking the right question, and I've got no idea.
00:07:23.000 Because it will depend on how he performs, but also what his style is, how accommodation, how much he accommodates, picking a police commissioner, what kinds of things he talks about, how much he, you know, does he arrest Netanyahu.
00:07:38.000 So I think it's hard to know exactly how this will play out, but there's no doubt that he, well, I shouldn't say no doubt, he appears to want to have regular combat with the president, which will keep him in the news.
00:07:50.000 I think how he governs will keep him in the news.
00:07:52.000 And then his relationship to the governor's race where Kathy Hochul was endorsed, endorsed Mom Donnie, but hasn't been reverse endorsed.
00:08:00.000 So he will be a part of the storyline.
00:08:03.000 How big and what the variables are, I just don't know.
00:08:06.000 And I live here and I follow it closely, but I think there's so many different ways he can go.
00:08:11.000 I will say that his election night speech freaked me out as much as anything because it suggested a level of anger and determination to make this an us versus them governance that I think could be quite troubling for a lot of people in this city.
00:08:26.000 Yeah, and Mark, what are you going to be looking for when he assumes office, when he gets the keys to the city, as it were?
00:08:33.000 I mean, I'll just tell you my first thing.
00:08:35.000 You mentioned the police commissioner.
00:08:36.000 You know, he tried to moderate his tone when it came to the NYPD.
00:08:42.000 I think this guy has deep-seated distrust within the NYPD.
00:08:46.000 He's going to tie their hands.
00:08:47.000 I mean, if you're a police officer and you're forced to go, you know, arrest somebody in a street melee, you know, good luck if something goes wrong, this guy having your back.
00:08:56.000 He's going to villainize you.
00:08:58.000 You're part of the established oppressive system that he's targeting.
00:09:02.000 He's messaged towards.
00:09:04.000 So those are the things I'm looking for.
00:09:06.000 But again, New York is of most cities, one of the most resilient in the world.
00:09:11.000 These people, I mean, if you love New York, you don't want to leave New York.
00:09:14.000 There's too much culture, too many restaurants, too many, like just the style of life.
00:09:19.000 You can't emulate that easily in other American cities.
00:09:22.000 One minute, Mark Halperin.
00:09:22.000 What are you looking for?
00:09:24.000 How could you not mention that Kanish?
00:09:26.000 Look, he said he's going to keep on the current police commissioner.
00:09:28.000 Let's see if he does.
00:09:29.000 There's some indication he's not really secured her pledge to do it.
00:09:34.000 You mentioned arrests.
00:09:35.000 I'm worried about some, you know, a cop killing somebody accidentally.
00:09:40.000 And then he shows up at the scene and does he defend the cop or does he attack the cop?
00:09:45.000 This city has seen a huge ratcheting down of the kind of racial tensions we saw several decades ago when there was non-stop, these non-stop combustible events.
00:09:54.000 I worry about a return to those depending on how he handles it.
00:09:57.000 And again, his election night speech made it harder for me to tell people to have hope or calm down or let's wait and see.
00:10:04.000 I'm certainly amongst those concerned about how Hyandar handled those kind of high pressure situations.
00:10:10.000 Yeah, I think Blake's right to sort of look to these first few tests that are coming out of the Mom Donnie era in New York to see what direction the whole city goes.
00:10:24.000 Because, I mean, he is a bellwether for the future of the populist free stuff left-wing populism that's bubbling up all across the country.
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00:11:44.000 Mark, so you know, we've we talked about this left-wing populism.
00:11:49.000 Charlie predicted its rise and ascendancy.
00:11:52.000 And obviously, MAGA was the beginning of this populist wave in the United States.
00:11:58.000 But, you know, there's growing consternation on the right that perhaps we're losing touch.
00:12:05.000 Maybe the administration is losing touch with the base.
00:12:09.000 Trump has this interview with Laura Ingram last night.
00:12:12.000 We'll just give you a taste of it.
00:12:14.000 I can't tell you how many people are texting me clips going, like, did he really just say that?
00:12:18.000 Play cut 122.
00:12:20.000 When somebody makes a statement about he's devoting time to the world, well, the world is the United States because if the world's in trouble or if the world is ripping us off, it's easy to say, oh, don't worry about the world, but the world is turning out to be our biggest customer.
00:12:36.000 The world was on fire, and we could have been in that fire very easily if you didn't have a president that knew what he was doing.
00:12:43.000 So obviously, Blake, Mark, the word there, or the phrase there, the world is the United States, I think, you know, keyed off the America First psyche in a, and to be diplomatic, though, and actually, I think what he was trying to say was that if you don't, if the world's out of control, we're going to have, we're going to have a real hard time finding peace and prosperity here at home.
00:13:04.000 You have to put out the fires when they come up.
00:13:06.000 I know what he was saying.
00:13:07.000 I think people are making too much of it, but there is this note that we're focusing too much on foreign policy, not enough on domestic policy.
00:13:15.000 Is that what you're seeing in the polling, the trends, the conversation that you're hearing in your circles, Mark?
00:13:22.000 The populists of both parties, whether it's MAGA or Bernie Sanders supporters, they're like, come home, America.
00:13:27.000 You know, it sounds like Mitt Romney's saying corporations are people too.
00:13:33.000 And look, being commander-in-chief, you've got responsibilities.
00:13:37.000 And the president's view of how to make America successful, as you said, is to be more engaged economically with the world in a way that's advantageous to the United States and not turn the back on countries who we can help themselves and have more allies.
00:13:54.000 So I think the proof will be for so many, the answers to some of these questions for both the establishment of the party and MAGA is what will the economy be like at the end of the next year.
00:14:08.000 This is the key.
00:14:08.000 We have a clip here that I think is a very important thing.
00:14:10.000 I think some people have the, you know, it can, sometimes the framing is they're not focused on the domestic sphere enough, but it also is possible maybe the domestic sphere is just not super popular right now.
00:14:21.000 And let's set that up.
00:14:22.000 Trump spoke with Laura Ingram.
00:14:24.000 Let's play 176.
00:14:26.000 We're down on energy.
00:14:27.000 We're down on interest rate.
00:14:28.000 You know, interest rates are down despite the Fed.
00:14:30.000 Now, the Fed, if we had a normal person at the Fed would have really low interest rates, and we will soon have that.
00:14:35.000 We'll have somebody that's not going to be able to do it.
00:14:36.000 And why are people saying they're anxious about the economy?
00:14:38.000 Why are they saying that?
00:14:40.000 I don't know that they are saying.
00:14:41.000 I think polls are fake.
00:14:42.000 We have the greatest economy we've ever had.
00:14:46.000 We will have over $20 trillion come into our economy, and it's largely because of my election, but it's also largely because of tariffs.
00:14:55.000 All right.
00:14:55.000 So, Mark, you are inside the Oval Office.
00:14:59.000 You have the president's ear for 30 minutes, and you're giving him messaging advice.
00:15:04.000 Given this dynamic on the domestic front, what is your advice to President Trump on how to message this?
00:15:10.000 Well, I'm not in the business of giving messaging advice to any politicians, but just looking at the polling and talking to a lot of voters, it really doesn't matter how you message it.
00:15:19.000 Is the economy going to be better next year or not?
00:15:21.000 The economy is, there's a lot of strong signs, not just the stock market.
00:15:25.000 There are other strong signs, but people are still really uneasy about the economy.
00:15:30.000 And it's pretty simple, not just for a president who put affordability and the economy front and center, but for any president.
00:15:37.000 Will people before the midterms, will people at the end of his presidency say, yeah, that guy had a theory of the case about how to make our lives better, particularly on the economy?
00:15:46.000 I don't think it matters how he messages it.
00:15:48.000 I mean, obviously, there's ways to do it that are worse than others, but that's not, people aren't looking for messaging.
00:15:54.000 They're looking for their lives to get better and more affordable.
00:15:56.000 So, Mark, you're basically saying 2026 comes down to maybe some of these redistricting battles, but it's the economy stupid.
00:16:04.000 And the second follow-up question is the Hispanic vote.
00:16:11.000 One of the things I'm looking at is we're engineering these maps in Texas based on Hispanic vote modeled off of 2024.
00:16:18.000 I'm concerned, especially with the economy, that that's going to have a big outsized impact with the Hispanic community.
00:16:25.000 The data in polling and on Election Day last week makes it clear that President Trump did not create a realignment moving the Hispanic vote, or particularly young Hispanic men, from the Democratic comms to the Republican column.
00:16:41.000 What happened was because of Biden-Harris and somewhat because of the president's appeal, they shifted away from the Democrats and they parked temporarily on Trump.
00:16:50.000 Will they realign towards Republicans like in that Texas district or around the country?
00:16:55.000 Are they up for grabs?
00:16:56.000 We don't know because it may have simply been the combination of Trump on the ballot and Biden-Harris policies that moved them.
00:17:03.000 And here's an irony: the more the president remakes our culture and makes it less politically correct, the harder it is for Republicans to win Hispanic votes because they no longer have that to play off of and sell against.
00:17:16.000 Mark Halperin, see you soon.
00:17:18.000 Thank you, my friend.
00:17:19.000 Bye.
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00:18:23.000 I am very excited about our next guest here on the Charlie Kirk Show, and that is Selena Zito.
00:18:29.000 She is a reporter for the Washington Examiner, and she was getting Trump truthed all over yesterday about some of her reporting on the youth vote.
00:18:38.000 And so I thought it was only appropriate that we brought in Mikey McCoy, who's, you know, like the youth whisperer these days.
00:18:46.000 He's doing phenomenal work.
00:18:47.000 So Selena, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:18:50.000 Mikey, also welcome.
00:18:52.000 I'm excited to have this conversation.
00:18:54.000 Selena, welcome.
00:18:55.000 Hey, thanks so much for having me.
00:18:57.000 Yeah, well, listen, you're somebody that I've wanted to have on the show for a while, and I thought this would be a great opportunity.
00:19:02.000 I also want to say we're going to get to it here in this segment, that your book, New York Times Bestseller, Butler.
00:19:10.000 Number one.
00:19:11.000 Yes, number one.
00:19:12.000 And you went in depth on the assassination attempt on Trump.
00:19:16.000 And that was originally why I wanted to have you on, just because, you know, obviously the tragedy with Charlie, it hits very close to home.
00:19:24.000 You went in depth with the president.
00:19:25.000 You interviewed him.
00:19:27.000 You got a lot of behind the scenes details there.
00:19:28.000 So please, everybody, check out Butler by Selena Zito.
00:19:32.000 So let's get into the first topic up for bids here is this youth vote.
00:19:37.000 Tell us about your article.
00:19:38.000 What are you finding?
00:19:39.000 What are you seeing?
00:19:40.000 So what's really interesting to me is throughout the book, Butler, because people think it's only about what happened in Butler, but it actually takes a look at the heartland and what was happening last year, but also what is continuing to happen.
00:19:55.000 And that is this youth movement towards faith and towards conservative populism.
00:20:02.000 And how I kept seeing it over and over again in Pennsylvania.
00:20:08.000 I wrote about it and I said, guys, something's going on here, right?
00:20:12.000 And a lot of these young people I talked to, and it's in the book, said, well, they were first inspired by listening to Charlie and having their sort of conceived thoughts changed because of the way that he introduced faith into their lives.
00:20:30.000 And ultimately, it led to also becoming conservative voters and understanding the importance of voting.
00:20:38.000 Now, however, since what happened to Charlie happened, what I have seen, you know, in particular in Western Pennsylvania, that's where I live.
00:20:49.000 I know I'm a Washington Post, Washington Examiner reporter, but I live in the middle of the country.
00:20:55.000 And, you know, I see these young people showing up.
00:21:00.000 You can see the pictures there that showing up for these revivals.
00:21:07.000 And there's a real sort of awakening going on with young people that is getting largely missed by my profession, but it's very real.
00:21:17.000 It's very profound.
00:21:19.000 And I even, you know, not only have I been covering these revivals in Western PA, but I also see it in my own parish.
00:21:25.000 I'm Catholic.
00:21:27.000 And I see my church going from like, okay, almost filled to like around the pews and out the door filled.
00:21:35.000 So there, and these are young people that are attending.
00:21:39.000 And so I think it's a very interesting thing that is happening in the country.
00:21:45.000 Yeah.
00:21:46.000 And Mikey, you went with Charlie to just about every single campus stop.
00:21:50.000 I mean, maybe you missed a few over the last couple of years, but we saw this firsthand.
00:21:54.000 You saw it firsthand.
00:21:56.000 What was it about Charlie's message that you could tell was just connecting?
00:22:02.000 You know, that moment where the eyes light up and there's just that aha moment with young people.
00:22:07.000 Yeah, there's this great clip of Charlie debating a leftist and he's talking about how Wall Street is purchasing a bunch of the homes.
00:22:14.000 And Charlie agrees with him that that should not happen.
00:22:17.000 And the leftist kind of goes, oh, oh, I agree with you.
00:22:20.000 And so Charlie was kind of the only one who was able to capture the energy of this youth populism that you referred to here.
00:22:28.000 But this is also a warning sign for us that now with Charlie being gone, Turning Point, Erica, under her leadership, has done a great job with these events last night at Berkeley, you know, Auburn, Ole Miss, and just helping capture that energy, but also the future of the political movement and the economic reality of under 30s.
00:22:47.000 And so you see dark political radicalization setting in for a lot of these youth.
00:22:51.000 I mean, three of the biggest assassins in the past 12 months have been Gen Z. 1.00
00:22:58.000 And so you saw the YouGov poll that says political violence is acceptable from 18 to 36 year olds.
00:23:07.000 And so you kind of see this radicalization of the youth, but then you also see it with their economic reality.
00:23:14.000 Rents are at an all-time high.
00:23:15.000 First-time homebuyers are at 40 years old.
00:23:18.000 Median home buyers are at 61 years old of the assets owned in the United States.
00:23:24.000 I think we have a photo of this.
00:23:25.000 I think it's 174 of the assets owned in the United States.
00:23:28.000 Baby boomers own about 50% of it.
00:23:30.000 Gen Z really doesn't even have any stake in the U.S. economy right now. 1.00
00:23:35.000 And so they're churning to radicalization, which is kind of what you saw with Zoron Momdani this last week with his massive win.
00:23:45.000 And you saw actually moderate conservatives and conservatives voting for Zoron Momdani at a 7% rate and a 9% rate in New York City.
00:23:54.000 And this is because they're seeing something that we're not.
00:23:58.000 And so I just, what do you guys make of this?
00:24:01.000 How do you see a solution for young people?
00:24:04.000 Because I'm the resident Gen Zer in the studio, but I want to hear from you guys what you think.
00:24:09.000 No, and Selena, Mikey brings up a good point.
00:24:12.000 There's a temptation to think that we have this on lock now, but really a lot of these people are politically homeless.
00:24:18.000 They were willing to park their vote with Trump if he could deliver the goods.
00:24:22.000 And I think that the verdict is still out on that.
00:24:25.000 Yeah, and that's a constant in American politics, right?
00:24:29.000 People tend to switch back and forth depending on who is speaking to them.
00:24:35.000 And one of the most important aspects in American politics is how do you speak to the voter about place, right?
00:24:46.000 Their rootedness, you know, that thing, that connective tissue that makes them want to invest and stay where they are, right?
00:24:54.000 To have that stability.
00:24:56.000 And, you know, is it eight out of 10 young Americans live within, was it, 20 miles of their home, a hometown, like where they grew up.
00:25:06.000 So they want to be rooted.
00:25:08.000 So who's speaking to that?
00:25:11.000 In the 2024 election, that was what Trump spoke to and JD Vance spoke to.
00:25:16.000 They addressed people in their place and they told them your place matters, you matter.
00:25:22.000 And I think that that is a concept that is not always apparent to people.
00:25:29.000 I think Charlie was very good about speaking to place as well.
00:25:33.000 But the politician that speaks to it sort of captures the imagination in particular if you're young.
00:25:42.000 And that's what Zoron did.
00:25:44.000 He showed up and he said, I see you and I'm going to make everything better.
00:25:49.000 He is not going to get half of what he said he's going to get.
00:25:53.000 Free child care for all between six weeks and six years old.
00:25:59.000 That's not going to happen.
00:26:00.000 I don't know who can pay for that, right?
00:26:02.000 Rent control, free public transportation.
00:26:06.000 But he showed up with a smile and he said, I can do it.
00:26:09.000 And that is what you have to pay attention to when you're leading a movement.
00:26:15.000 And the conservatives have to say, all right, New York City isn't really where we would probably win a battle anyways.
00:26:23.000 However, how do we capture, how do we maintain that conversation about place?
00:26:29.000 Because when it comes to place, it all also comes to family.
00:26:32.000 It comes to faith.
00:26:33.000 It comes to community.
00:26:35.000 All those social fabrics that people crave, that purpose people crave are part of place.
00:26:41.000 Yeah.
00:26:42.000 And, you know, we had on the right this week a debate about 50-year mortgages erupt, right?
00:26:48.000 You know, so Trump kind of floats this.
00:26:51.000 I'll be honest with you.
00:26:52.000 The emails to this show, freedomatcharliekirk.com, they were more positive than I was anticipating.
00:26:57.000 A lot of people saw it as like a pragmatic step that was something that they could use if they needed and then, you know, refinance down to a more traditional 30-year or something like that.
00:27:07.000 I was surprised.
00:27:08.000 There was still a lot of negative.
00:27:09.000 I'm not convinced.
00:27:10.000 And it's not the silver bullet, right?
00:27:12.000 It's not going to the end all be all.
00:27:13.000 But when you look at guys like in Mikey's position, a Gen Zer looking to get ahead, these kind of ideas we need to start talking about. 1.00
00:27:22.000 I think we need an economic moonshot for Gen Z. 1.00
00:27:26.000 And frankly, we need a better phrase than economic moonshot because Gen Z doesn't is probably not even sure what I'm talking about when I say an economic moonshot. 0.99
00:27:34.000 So Mikey, floors to you.
00:27:36.000 Like the economics of it all, I think, is incredibly important here.
00:27:40.000 What are people saying in your age bracket?
00:27:43.000 Yeah, you're right in that New York City isn't a place necessarily that Republicans can win, but it is a canary in the coal mine with what's happening as this youth populism movement is happening.
00:27:56.000 And this is a huge warning sign, not just in the midterms, but also for the 2028 presidential election.
00:28:03.000 Young people are going to start turning to radical candidates if there aren't solutions.
00:28:07.000 And I'm talking total economic reality has to change for these people.
00:28:12.000 And they're going to start turning to AOC as a presidential candidate.
00:28:16.000 I mean, I think it's more likely that AOC is going to be a candidate for young people than Gavin Newsom when it comes to the left.
00:28:23.000 And I think a lot of young people on the right, too, would turn to a candidate like that.
00:28:28.000 But we can't afford a home.
00:28:31.000 We have student loans that are crushing us.
00:28:33.000 We have 58% of college grads graduate college.
00:28:36.000 And then for their first year, they're unemployed.
00:28:39.000 So there's no, the job market is shrinking.
00:28:41.000 The labor market's shrinking.
00:28:42.000 There's no jobs for the degrees that they had.
00:28:44.000 The student loans are at an all-time high.
00:28:46.000 Credit card debt is at an all-time high with crushing APYs. 1.00
00:28:49.000 It's just, it's totally killing young people.
00:28:52.000 And we're going to turn to radical solutions, even if it is Mom Donnie smiling and giving us a promise that won't happen.
00:28:59.000 And eventually this could destroy our country.
00:29:02.000 So the right needs to start asking themselves questions.
00:29:05.000 You know, 50-year mortgages, maybe that's not the best idea for young people in this country.
00:29:11.000 And they need to start reaching out to young people.
00:29:13.000 I thought it was amazing that JD Vance, he comes to mind in particular in Old Miss.
00:29:18.000 He was talking about this stuff, but then he also wants to do more of these with young people.
00:29:22.000 I feel like he's the only person right now, him and Erica Kirk, that are actually going out and engaging young people in the U.S. You know, it's funny is if you had a 50-year mortgage, the medium home buying age is 40.
00:29:34.000 So you would be 90 by the time you paid off that mortgage.
00:29:38.000 So it's a little bit disconcerting.
00:29:42.000 Thanksgiving holds so many memories, and I'm sure it's the same for you.
00:29:47.000 Right now, there's a girl finding out she's pregnant. 1.00
00:29:49.000 In the next couple of weeks, she's going to make a decision.
00:29:52.000 And whatever decision she makes will become her memory of this Thanksgiving for the rest of her life.
00:29:58.000 What will she be thankful for a year from now?
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00:30:44.000 I want to make sure that you see some of these data points.
00:30:47.000 Throw up 109.
00:30:48.000 This is Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen.
00:30:50.000 He said Trump's approval for voters under 30 was 60% in March.
00:30:54.000 Now it's 35% and Mom Donnie favorability is 62% with like a shrug emoji.
00:31:01.000 All right.
00:31:02.000 Let's go 110.
00:31:03.000 This is from Melissa Chan.
00:31:04.000 Young women voted 81% for Mom Donnie in New York City, 80% for Cheryl in New Jersey, 78% for Spanberger and VA.
00:31:12.000 Pendulum shift from the podcast bros just a year ago to the longhouse.
00:31:16.000 And then when you actually do dive into the conservative numbers, throw up 142.
00:31:21.000 This is who's your ideal candidate in 2028, ages 18 to 29.
00:31:26.000 Donald Trump Jr. actually is at 28%.
00:31:29.000 Vance is at 25%.
00:31:32.000 Cruz 16 DeSantis at 6%.
00:31:34.000 So we're seeing not only some, I would say, noise in the data, but we're also seeing these wild fluctuations.
00:31:42.000 So Selena, what do we need to do to get this back on track?
00:31:45.000 So we are in, I always say history doesn't repeat itself, but it kind of rhymes.
00:31:51.000 Other people say that too.
00:31:53.000 But, you know, we are in the middle of a really turbulent economic time, not very distant, different than the industrial revolution.
00:32:05.000 Only this is more like a technological revolution, right?
00:32:09.000 With AI and how it's disrupting our economy.
00:32:13.000 And so we have to look back at what happened then.
00:32:16.000 There was great fluctuations between Democrats and Republicans, wild swings, hundreds of seats every two years between in Congress, as well as presidents.
00:32:28.000 We switch presidents every four years.
00:32:31.000 And so what are the lessons learned?
00:32:33.000 Well, a lot of these men and women that ran back there talked over the people that were feeling that shift from an ag economy to an industrial economy, and they didn't address their needs.
00:32:47.000 What the Republicans, what Trump needs to do, what Vance needs to do, and I think they're both very good at it, is go where the voter is, go where the people are and show that empathy about what their concerns are.
00:33:01.000 I think that goes a long way.
00:33:03.000 I think that's what Mamdani did well.
00:33:06.000 I always expected him to win New York.
00:33:09.000 I also never expected the Republicans to win Virginia and New Jersey.
00:33:15.000 So, and they were, you know, slightly flawed candidates as well.
00:33:21.000 So I think going to where the voter is, going where the economic distress is, tell that person, tell young people, I see you, I feel you, I hear you.
00:33:30.000 I mean, when I was 25, when I was under 30, terrible economic times in Pittsburgh.
00:33:37.000 All the steel industry died.
00:33:39.000 I bought my first home and it was 14% interest rate.
00:33:43.000 And I lived, you know, like paycheck to paycheck, maybe not even that well, right?
00:33:49.000 So I completely understand that.
00:33:51.000 What you need to do is talk to that person about that empathy.
00:33:55.000 Yeah, well said.
00:33:56.000 And Mikey, I think we need a big, audacious, bold, visual idea, like groundbreaking on like a million homes or something, you know?
00:34:06.000 But what are your thoughts?
00:34:07.000 Because you were there on the ground when you saw the surge of momentum behind the Trump campaign in 2024.
00:34:14.000 Yeah, I mean, young people, the best, and I want to praise President Trump here because he's done an excellent job with this already with the 2 million plus deportations and southern border being secured at 99.99%.
00:34:28.000 But that is the best way that you can help young people economically with housing, just all around economically.
00:34:35.000 And that's the fastest and easiest way.
00:34:38.000 But also, I just want to kind of point out that during the election trail, the top three TikTok accounts were President Trump, Team Trump, and Charlie Kirk.
00:34:48.000 And they really knew how to message young people.
00:34:51.000 And I feel like that shouldn't stop.
00:34:52.000 I feel like we need to continue that messaging to young people and try to aim to be the top one, two, and three accounts on TikTok for reaching young people and giving them their desired content.
00:35:04.000 That's what we're going to do with your TikTok.
00:35:07.000 That's your job.
00:35:08.000 I don't know about that.
00:35:10.000 Yeah, but I just think President Trump, thank you.
00:35:13.000 Keep deporting people.
00:35:16.000 Make more jobs, lower the, you know, make build more homes in our country.
00:35:21.000 He's been doing a fantastic job.
00:35:22.000 We just need to continue it and continue the messaging for it.
00:35:26.000 Young people need to know that this is happening.
00:35:28.000 But this momentum is continuing under Erica Kirk's leadership at Turning Point USA with all these campus stops, and it's really encouraging to see.
00:35:35.000 Selena, we've got like 15 seconds for you. 0.96
00:35:37.000 Tell us about the book, where to get it.
00:35:39.000 You know, how do we follow you?
00:35:41.000 Tell us your coordinates.
00:35:42.000 You can follow me on Twitter, Zita, Selena, Z-I-T-O-S-A-L-E-N-A.
00:35:48.000 The book is Butler, number one New York Times bestseller.
00:35:52.000 It's not just about that day.
00:35:53.000 I was only four feet away from the president, but it is what's happening on the ground in particular with young people.
00:35:59.000 Amen.
00:36:00.000 Selena, you're amazing.
00:36:02.000 Thank you for joining, making the time.
00:36:04.000 We'll see you guys tomorrow.