The Charlie Kirk Show - Can the Asbury Gospel Go Global? with Keelin Darby and Michael Aper

00:00:00.000 A tragic story out of Huntsville, Alabama that actually has an action step for you about a police officer in prison who should not be in jail.

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00:01:34.000 We have a really difficult story to share with you that deserves your attention, and it's really a shame.

00:01:44.000 Joining us now is Keelan Darby, who's a Huntsville, Alabama police officer who has a story to share to our national audience about her husband.

00:01:55.000 And all eyes are on police right now following the tragic targeted Temple police shooting.

00:02:01.000 The media is conveniently ignoring.

00:02:04.000 Keenan joins us now.

00:02:05.000 Keelan, welcome to the program.

00:02:07.000 Tell us about your husband, Ben.

00:02:09.000 Hey, Charlie, thank you for having me on.

00:02:12.000 So my husband used to be a Huntsville police officer.

00:02:16.000 And in 2018, he was on duty serving as a police officer on patrol.

00:02:23.000 And he answered a call for service of a man who had called 911 and said that he was going to kill himself, that he had a gun to his head and he was going and he wanted help.

00:02:34.000 He wanted an officer to get there.

00:02:37.000 And so two officers had got there and on their way, they had asked for more help.

00:02:41.000 So that's where Ben came in.

00:02:43.000 Ben gets there.

00:02:44.000 And as a law enforcement officer myself, I can attest to this training that when we are called to situations where a gun is involved and there's only one person involved, which was the case with Mr. Parker, we don't go into that building.

00:02:59.000 We don't go into that house.

00:03:00.000 We don't go into that structure because we're not going to put ourselves blatantly in harm's way.

00:03:06.000 And the two officers that originally responded did the exact opposite of their training, went into the house with nothing between an armed individual and themselves, nothing to protect themselves, to take cover behind.

00:03:20.000 My husband got there expecting a perimeter to be held outside of the house as law enforcement is trained.

00:03:26.000 He got there and to his surprise, none of the two officers were not outside.

00:03:31.000 He had his shotgun ready for a perimeter and didn't see that.

00:03:36.000 So he made his way up to the house as safely as he could.

00:03:40.000 And to his surprise, saw an officer 20 feet away with a man with a gun to his head with her gun nowhere ready to help protect herself.

00:03:50.000 Ben saw that the female was not taking control of the situation and he took over, gave Mr. Parker several commands to drop the gun, and he did not do that.

00:04:02.000 He was given seven commands to drop the gun, and after that seventh command, the gun had moved towards the officers, my husband included, and Ben stopped the threat to their lives that day and unfortunately had to take Mr. Parker's life.

00:04:15.000 He did everything according to his training that we are given nationwide, including what we're taught in the state of Alabama.

00:04:25.000 He was cleared by his department by a shooting review board that did an investigation on his use of force, as well as investigating the other two officers on scene and their lack of understanding of the call.

00:04:38.000 Those two other officers were reprimanded and given remedial training.

00:04:42.000 My husband was not.

00:04:45.000 A couple months later, he gets charged with murder.

00:04:48.000 We go through that court process believing that the system will work its way out as it's supposed to.

00:04:56.000 And in May of 2021, we go to trial.

00:05:00.000 All this time, we have COVID and the anti-police pushing the whole George Floyd incident going on at this time.

00:05:09.000 And so many things went wrong at trial.

00:05:13.000 It was closed to the public, which is a constitutional violation of his rights.

00:05:19.000 And then pertinent evidence and case law was not allowed for the jury to be heard.

00:05:25.000 So they couldn't even examine his case correctly because they weren't instructed properly.

00:05:31.000 So when you look at all of that, the jury, when it came time to issue their verdict, they ended up convicting him of murder.

00:05:42.000 And he's now serving a 25-year sentence for doing exactly as he was treated.

00:05:46.000 Is he currently in prison?

00:05:48.000 He is currently in prison.

00:05:50.000 He's been in prison for 18 months.

00:05:52.000 Okay, yeah.

00:05:52.000 And so, I mean, the most obvious thing is the governor of Alabama should pardon your husband.

00:05:57.000 She can do that.

00:05:58.000 Has there been any conversations with the governor's office about that?

00:06:02.000 She actually, she actually cannot.

00:06:05.000 That power was taken away from the governor for our state a few years ago from a prior governor who had gotten in trouble and they were afraid that he would pardon himself.

00:06:15.000 So they've stripped the governor from that power.

00:06:18.000 So he's not able to be pardoned by the governor.

00:06:21.000 Really?

00:06:21.000 Okay.

00:06:22.000 So we are, yes.

00:06:23.000 So we're going through an appeal process.

00:06:24.000 We are very hopeful.

00:06:27.000 And we had some very positive things happen.

00:06:29.000 It's just a waiting game right now.

00:06:30.000 We filed for appeal immediately after he was found guilty.

00:06:35.000 And in August of last year, we were notified we would get oral arguments, which is a hearing with the justices at the appellate level that not every case gets because every case that gets appealed tries to get these oral arguments.

00:06:52.000 And so you really have only just a 2% chance of actually getting them.

00:06:56.000 We got them.

00:06:57.000 We had that hearing back in November.

00:07:00.000 And now we're waiting on the judges to make their decision based off of that hearing as well as our appeal brief, the supporting briefs that we've received from the National Fraternal Order of Police.

00:07:14.000 And then, of course, the Attorney General is prosecuting the case now, who he says he supports law enforcement and he ran on that platform.

00:07:22.000 But yet my husband's in prison for doing his job.

00:07:25.000 Wait, so is the attorney the same job that?

00:07:27.000 So it's Steve Marshall, who's the attorney general.

00:07:29.000 I know Steve.

00:07:30.000 He's the one pushing, or is it a district attorney in Huntsville?

00:07:30.000 I'm confused.

00:07:33.000 What is the you got to clarify that for me?

00:07:36.000 I'm not quite following.

00:07:38.000 Yeah, so the district attorney of Huntsville of Madison County is Robertsard.

00:07:43.000 He pushed the conviction and won it.

00:07:45.000 Now that we're appealing it, the state, so attorney marshal is doing the prosecution.

00:07:53.000 Okay, so he's opposing your appeal, effectively.

00:07:57.000 Yes.

00:07:58.000 Does he have to do that or is he able to, meaning in some states, you have to take the side of the state if a jury has ruled a certain way?

00:08:06.000 Right.

00:08:07.000 By the law, he is, it is his job to uphold the conviction.

00:08:13.000 But if it's a wrongful conviction, which quite frankly it is, you can speak against that.

00:08:19.000 Okay, so he does have the agency to do that.

00:08:22.000 Okay, so he has so Attorney General Marshall has the agency then to say this is bad.

00:08:30.000 Does he have to use the power of his office or can he actively help on the appeal?

00:08:34.000 I'm just trying to help you because I actually know him.

00:08:36.000 So help me understand that.

00:08:38.000 Yeah.

00:08:39.000 Yeah.

00:08:40.000 He's actively prosecuting it.

00:08:42.000 He hasn't done any, he hasn't said a word.

00:08:44.000 Back in 21, I believe, Ben's chief had wrote a letter to the Attorney General stating, you know, this is how it's taught in the police academy.

00:08:55.000 This is the state law.

00:08:57.000 Do we need to make any changes?

00:08:59.000 And the chief received a reply that no, he don't need to change any of your training.

00:09:04.000 Well, got it.

00:09:06.000 So in an ideal world, what would you want to see, let's say, the Attorney General do?

00:09:12.000 Drop the charges and drop the charges and come out and say, no, Ben did exactly as he was trained, as we're still currently training rookie police officers in the academies across the state of Alabama.

00:09:26.000 So just the action item then is all of this has now come to the Attorney General's office, and he'll probably say, well, I have to do this because it's a prior conviction, but that's not true.

00:09:38.000 What you're saying is he has the power as Attorney General to review all the facts and circumstances and to drop this and say he was wrongly convicted.

00:09:45.000 Is that correct?

00:09:47.000 He can review everything and say, even though this came through as a conviction, I don't agree with it and I'm not going to prosecute it.

00:09:54.000 And if he did that, then what would happen?

00:09:58.000 Then the charges would be dropped and Ben would be restored his freedoms.

00:10:01.000 Okay.

00:10:02.000 Well, that's a good call to action.

00:10:03.000 Thank you.

00:10:04.000 Because, I mean, I'll do what I can and I think our audience should too.

00:10:08.000 So in Alabama, your husband is now serving a 25-year prison sentence.

00:10:11.000 Just everyone understands for doing everything the right way, for being cleared by a shooting review board, 25 years in prison, and you see this whole war on police.

00:10:21.000 And so there is an opportunity.

00:10:23.000 What you're saying is that there's a path towards restoration here, and Attorney General Marshall just needs to do the right thing.

00:10:31.000 Yes.

00:10:32.000 Okay.

00:10:34.000 Yeah, I mean, it's in the hands of the appellate courts right now, and we're awaiting on their decision from our appeal.

00:10:41.000 That could come today.

00:10:42.000 That could come next Christmas.

00:10:44.000 There's no timeline or deadline on them to make that decision.

00:10:47.000 So that's the hardest part.

00:10:48.000 Yeah.

00:10:48.000 So is the Attorney General's decision, is it dependent on the appellate court?

00:10:57.000 Are those two separate tracks?

00:11:00.000 I'd say it's two separate tracks.

00:11:02.000 The biggest influence right now would be from the appellate courts.

00:11:06.000 They could come back with whatever their decision is, and then the Attorney General can say, no, we don't want to prosecute this anymore.

00:11:13.000 Got it.

00:11:14.000 Okay.

00:11:15.000 Let's have you stay for one more segment. 0.97

00:11:17.000 And I want to talk to you privately as well.

00:11:20.000 I'm very interested.

00:11:21.000 This is a disgrace.

00:11:22.000 It's a tragedy.

00:11:23.000 You can't allow these sorts of things to happen.

00:11:25.000 It's awful.

00:11:27.000 And to have your husband have to go to prison for 25 years for doing his job, every American patriot should rise up and do what we can.

00:11:34.000 So now I have some clarity on how this could potentially be remedied.

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00:14:19.000 It's a tragic situation.

00:14:21.000 Keelan Darby is with us.

00:14:22.000 Keelan, share the website.

00:14:23.000 It's standwithdarby.com.

00:14:25.000 How can people help?

00:14:27.000 It is.

00:14:27.000 So standwithdarby.com.

00:14:29.000 There's two portals on there if people would like to help us with our label fees as we're on the hook of trying to get my husband out of prison.

00:14:38.000 And that's through the Pipe Hitter Foundation with Eddie and Andrea Gallagher, who's been a great support to us during this time.

00:14:46.000 And everyone's been able to support us through them.

00:14:49.000 And then also Fund the First is a nonprofit that helps first responders when they need help.

00:14:56.000 So both of those portals are available.

00:14:58.000 And then our website also has just more information about Ben, about the incident, different documents if people want to just know more.

00:15:07.000 So standwithdarby.com or pipehitterfoundation.org.

00:15:11.000 So in closing here, just to reiterate, the shooting review board exonerated him.

00:15:19.000 Why is it that the local DA took this and how on earth did a jury end up concluding this was murder?

00:15:26.000 Yeah, so it's interesting.

00:15:27.000 If you go back to the shooting review board, the district attorney was on that board.

00:15:33.000 And when they had question and answer time to figure out what was going on, there were no questions regarding Ben's use of force.

00:15:41.000 Everyone agreed that it was good.

00:15:43.000 So Ben was told later that month in April, hey, you're clear.

00:15:49.000 The DA says you're good.

00:15:50.000 Go back to the street.

00:15:51.000 He went back to the street.

00:15:53.000 The end of May, he gets pulled in.

00:15:55.000 Hey, the DA is looking to charge you.

00:15:57.000 And when it came down to it, it was a conflict between the chief and the DA.

00:16:02.000 So they would go back and forth.

00:16:05.000 And the DA told the chief, if you just fire him, we won't press charges.

00:16:09.000 And the chief said, no, he didn't do anything wrong.

00:16:12.000 He did everything according to policy, state, and local law, his training.

00:16:16.000 We're not doing that.

00:16:17.000 And so the DA said fine, and he charged him.

00:16:21.000 We go through everything.

00:16:23.000 Right before we find out we're going to trial, he gets an offer, no prison time, five years' probation if he pled to manslaughter.

00:16:31.000 Well, he didn't commit murder, so he's not going to, he's not going to take a deal for manslaughter that he didn't commit either, because manslaughter would be considered reckless.

00:16:41.000 And there was nothing reckless with what he did.

00:16:44.000 He went to trial and things were done unconstitutionally.

00:16:49.000 Things were not allowed for the jury to be heard.

00:16:52.000 Witnesses that had relevant testimony were not allowed to speak.

00:16:57.000 His training wasn't allowed to come forth to the jury.

00:17:02.000 So, of course, the jury's not going to know any different.

00:17:04.000 The jury's just going to go for what they hear.

00:17:07.000 And quite frankly, the public's not a trained police officer.

00:17:10.000 So if you wanted to have a fair trial, you would have had people of law enforcement knowledge, which of course is never going to happen.

00:17:19.000 But to my point, the jury wasn't properly instructed.

00:17:23.000 Was race involved in this at all?

00:17:25.000 No, it was white on white.

00:17:28.000 Parker was a 49-year-old white supremacist.

00:17:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:17:33.000 I didn't documented in his background.

00:17:36.000 Yeah, that's not me just making that up.

00:17:41.000 Keelan, thank you for joining us.

00:17:42.000 I'm going to do what I can to help.

00:17:44.000 StandwithDarby.com.

00:17:46.000 The most actionable item is to get the Attorney General of Alabama to change course.

00:17:54.000 So thank you, and we're praying for you, and I'm going to do what I can to help.

00:17:57.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:17:58.000 I appreciate it.

00:17:59.000 Thank you.

00:18:00.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:18:02.000 There's a war on police in our country.

00:18:04.000 Could you imagine you go in to do your job in a high-pressure situation?

00:18:08.000 Bang, Things are firing.

00:18:12.000 And you do what you're trained to do, and you end up in prison for 25 years, and you just kind of get discarded by the system.

00:18:21.000 I'm not going to put up with that, and you shouldn't either.

00:18:22.000 It's wrong.

00:18:23.000 It's abhorrent.

00:18:25.000 And yeah, look, of course, obviously somebody died.

00:18:28.000 That's awful.

00:18:30.000 It's not an acceptable outcome in any way.

00:18:33.000 But the shooting review board said, hey, this were the facts and circumstances surrounded.

00:18:39.000 You're a trained police officer.

00:18:40.000 So the training instructs.

00:18:41.000 Don't like the training.

00:18:42.000 Fix the training.

00:18:43.000 And I just, I find it so flawed, so wrong when people who have never been in those high-intense situations, myself included, by the way, but I'm not one of these people that are criticizing.

00:18:58.000 Oh, you should have done this, should have done that.

00:18:59.000 Calm down.

00:19:00.000 You don't know how you would act in that situation, okay?

00:19:03.000 And based on all the evidence, the body cam footage and the testimony he acted within his training.

00:19:07.000 Is that worth 25 years in prison?

00:19:10.000 This is a local DA that's trying to make a name for himself that's trying to do something he shouldn't do, all because of a theme of war on police.

00:19:18.000 Why the people of Huntsville, Alabama, the great people of Huntsville, Alabama, are putting up with this.

00:19:22.000 I don't understand.

00:19:23.000 This is a tragedy.

00:19:24.000 This is wrong.

00:19:25.000 And it's fixable based on everything that we just learned.

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00:20:26.000 Joining us now is Michael Aper, an Aspery Theological Seminary student.

00:20:30.000 You've probably heard or seen about the revival that is now sweeping the nation that started in Aspury, Kentucky.

00:20:39.000 Michael, welcome to the program.

00:20:41.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:20:42.000 Michael, tell us from the front lines from the beginning.

00:20:46.000 Tell us the story of this revival.

00:20:49.000 Yeah, well, on February 8th, there was a chapel service, as usual, at Asbury University, which is a sister institution of Asbury Theological Seminary.

00:20:59.000 The chapel service concluded, and there was a remnant of students that were interested in worshiping and continuing to submit themselves to holiness, submit themselves to humility and to God.

00:21:11.000 And what that looked like was quickly we had students that were confessing their sins, that were repenting of the ways they had been living and asking for prayer and joining in worship together.

00:21:23.000 And really, that continued for days and days and days, and it's even still continuing.

00:21:28.000 Where now it's no longer a remnant of students in the chapel, but it's blown up to where our small two-stop light town has had an excess of 15,000, some are saying up to 20,000 individuals who have come here to experience what's going on, to participate in the worship, and so much so that the city's infrastructure has had to make some measures to mitigate the toll that it takes on the city to have that many people here.

00:21:56.000 Is this going to continue?

00:21:57.000 I'm hearing that it might be transitioning outside just from an infrastructure standpoint.

00:22:02.000 That's correct.

00:22:03.000 The university has announced that they are working on transitioning to a third party to not have everyone crammed into one space.

00:22:12.000 We've had overflow spaces, and really for the past 13 days, it's been overwhelming to the institution, to the students as well, just having so many people.

00:22:25.000 It's an incredible blessing, and every one of us recognizes the importance of what God is doing amongst the people of the church and how He is calling them to Himself.

00:22:35.000 And yet, there are logistical structures that are at risk with that many students in place, that many people from outside of the student population.

00:22:44.000 And at the end of the day, it is an academic institution, so we've got to maintain that level of expertise for the students who are here to engage in the miracles of God through education as well.

00:22:55.000 So, explain to our audience some of the transforming of lives that you have seen.

00:23:01.000 It's a remarkable thing.

00:23:02.000 Tell us some stories.

00:23:04.000 Absolutely.

00:23:05.000 I've had the privilege with my wife to not just be a student here and engage in this experience as a student, but as a volunteer, as a student worker.

00:23:14.000 And what we've been able to see is story after story since the very beginning, where it was just the students of the campus getting together and worshiping together.

00:23:24.000 There were students who were finding freedom from an addiction to pornography, freedom from addiction to other chemical substances.

00:23:31.000 There are people who are being relieved of mental health issues and things of that nature, as well as emotional and spiritual issues that they are now finding freedom and understanding of who God is and what it means to live as if the Holy Spirit is active in his church, as it most certainly is.

00:23:51.000 And since then, with the thousands that have come on pilgrimage, we could say, to come and worship, we've heard more and more stories of individuals who had dreams, had visions of the worship services taking place even before they were taking place and had come as sojourners to experience what God was doing in this place.

00:24:12.000 Now, there's a big concern that people would have to say, and rightly so, the skeptics are saying, why do you need to go to Wilmore, Kentucky to experience this?

00:24:22.000 And my answer would be, you don't.

00:24:25.000 You certainly do not.

00:24:26.000 The Spirit of God is alive and well in his church no matter where you are.

00:24:30.000 But what has been most interesting is that individuals have come to see what is happening.

00:24:34.000 And the most common story that I've heard from them, whether they be pastors or lay people in their churches, they're saying, we don't experience worship this way.

00:24:44.000 We don't experience the community of believers this way.

00:24:47.000 And I want to see what it's like so that I can take it home with me.

00:24:51.000 Let's play cut 77.

00:24:53.000 John Root on the ground.

00:24:55.000 Play cut 77.

00:24:58.000 What do you want your life to look like after this experience here?

00:25:01.000 I don't want to be stagnant.

00:25:04.000 I need to take action.

00:25:07.000 I can't just say I'm a Christian and now I give testimony of Christis.

00:25:12.000 I got to show the love of Christ.

00:25:15.000 Well, God bless you.

00:25:16.000 I'm so glad you're here.

00:25:17.000 Yes.

00:25:18.000 I'm sure you're hearing story after story of that.

00:25:21.000 And this has spread to other places.

00:25:22.000 Where?

00:25:24.000 Well, the figure I heard almost a week ago was 22 other universities.

00:25:29.000 Some of the biggest ones are Indiana Wesleyan University.

00:25:32.000 That was one of the earliest to really take off with this spirit of revival, if we want to call it that.

00:25:39.000 Really, a lot of campuses are breaking out.

00:25:42.000 Even after the first week of what was happening on campus here, our own local church had a church service that lasted for hours and hours because the individuals were not burdened by the frivolities of life.

00:25:56.000 They were more interested in engaging in worship and engaging in the community of believers.

00:26:01.000 Because ultimately, that's what's happening here, Charlie, is it's not that God is in Wilmore, Kentucky anymore than he is everywhere else.

00:26:08.000 It's that the people of God are coming into community with one another in a way that makes the church more significant and emboldens the church to engage in the spiritual acts and in the devotions that we should already be doing.

00:26:22.000 So I've been told that Kalove and some of the biggest Christian artists wanted to come, but Aspury made a decision to turn them away.

00:26:32.000 Explain that to us.

00:26:34.000 I can't say whether Caleb specifically, as an institution, was denied.

00:26:38.000 I know that there were a number of individuals, big worship artists, even worship speakers, major church leaders who came to Asbury and the administration said, no thanks.

00:26:51.000 This is not a platform for people.

00:26:54.000 This is not a platform for names.

00:26:56.000 Our students have it handled because this is a platform for the Almighty God.

00:27:00.000 And it's not unlike if you saw the Tucker Carlson reporting on this, he wanted to come here in person and interview people.

00:27:07.000 And when he requested that, he was also denied.

00:27:10.000 And for the same reason is that it's not a show and it's not something that we want to raise on any human on a pedestal, any people on a pedestal, except for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, and I think you guys have done a successful job of that.

00:27:27.000 I was actually texting with Tucker about it.

00:27:28.000 He said, I want to go, but they don't want to make it about it.

00:27:31.000 And he said, I totally understand.

00:27:32.000 I mean, he gets it completely and totally.

00:27:34.000 And so then I guess the question is: what's next?

00:27:39.000 Where do you see this growing and going?

00:27:41.000 As you said, 22 more locations.

00:27:44.000 And I would love to see this spread to non-Christian universities. 1.00

00:27:48.000 I don't know if that's happened yet.

00:27:50.000 Oh, certainly it has happened and it's something that we anticipate happening. 1.00

00:27:56.000 A lot of what is happening here at Asbury University now brings to mind a revival that took place in 1970.

00:28:04.000 That was a much smaller scale because of the limitations of technology.

00:28:09.000 Now we're in a different culture.

00:28:10.000 Social media has made it so that millions are watching and seeing what's taking place here.

00:28:15.000 And more people are interested in being involved.

00:28:18.000 But in the 1970 revival, what took place towards its conception, as well as in its ending, was that individuals from the student were sent out to other schools, to other places as evangelists to testify to what had taken place in Wilmore, Kentucky and bring it throughout the nation.

00:28:36.000 In a similar way, we are desiring as the people of the city and as the students of this institution, we are desiring that not just ourselves, but the individuals who have come will take it out into the nations.

00:28:50.000 And to be clear, it's not just Americans who are attending these worship services.

00:28:54.000 We've had internationals that have come.

00:28:57.000 We had a group travel here from Brazil.

00:29:00.000 I heard a group of 40 came from Jamaica, Indonesia.

00:29:04.000 There's been a number of countries as well that have been represented in the worship of the Almighty God.

00:29:08.000 And they're interested in taking it out into the world.

00:29:12.000 And what revival really is, is not a worship service.

00:29:16.000 It is a coming to repentance and a changing of lives.

00:29:19.000 And it takes place beyond the events of what take place here in Wilmore, Kentucky.

00:29:25.000 This will show by its fruit whether it's something that is genuine because of what happens in the coming weeks and months.

00:29:32.000 And we pray that the Lord will continue working in the, not just the academic institutions, but also in the local church.

00:29:40.000 But specifically, like you said, we would love it if schools that are so deeply seated with leftist agendas.

00:29:52.000 I won't go into the specifics, but you have a warm welcoming audience on that.

00:29:58.000 Oh, I know.

00:30:00.000 Yeah, but if that scene can be overcome with the glory of God and repentance and a true sense of desiring the holiness that God has called us to, not just by ethical or moral laws, but by a spiritual desperation on what he is doing amongst his people and what he has desired for his people to live into the kingdom.

00:30:24.000 Because what we have been told to pray is, your kingdom come and your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

00:30:30.000 So we're not living to die.

00:30:32.000 We're living to live because Christ has brought us into life even now.

00:30:37.000 God bless you.

00:30:37.000 And I also want to say one closing word for all.

00:30:40.000 I get lots of emails and I get tons of texts from pastors and stuff.

00:30:43.000 There were a lot of skeptics and there still are.

00:30:45.000 I think some of them mean well.

00:30:48.000 Some of them don't mean well.

00:30:49.000 I think I think some of them are jealous. 0.99

00:30:51.000 And so they got to knock that crap out. 0.99

00:30:53.000 Okay. 0.99

00:30:53.000 And it bothers me. 0.99

00:30:55.000 And I'm sure you've seen some of that again.

00:30:56.000 I could say some of the spiciness of some of these pastors like, oh, they're not legit. 0.96

00:31:01.000 Like, honestly, get over yourself.

00:31:02.000 This is a good thing that's happening.

00:31:03.000 And maybe you should actually stop trying to argue with a good thing.

00:31:07.000 Michael, thank you.

00:31:08.000 God bless you and appreciate you.

00:31:10.000 Thank you.

00:31:11.000 And if you do want to hear more about us, if you'd like to hear more about the revival on Forge and Anvil podcast, I'm a co-host on there.

00:31:20.000 We'll be having a full-length discussion on what's taking place here for more details about what's happening here in Wilmore, Kentucky.

00:31:26.000 Thank you so much, Darth.

00:31:27.000 Hope to meet you someday.

00:31:28.000 Thank you, Michael.

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00:32:35.000 Cable news is, especially on the left, seeing an MSMAC, it's just so hard to watch.

00:32:41.000 It's so empty of wisdom and it's banal, honestly.

00:32:45.000 It's not interesting, but it is in this case instructive of how the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times, the Overton window, has changed over the last decade.

00:32:57.000 So we had some fun with Don Lamon yesterday where we said, look, he was kind of just being cruel to the women around him, but it obviously didn't warrant putting him into exile and or the outrage.

00:33:08.000 And we had a whole thing on that.

00:33:10.000 And I wrote a whole op-ed on it.

00:33:11.000 You guys can check it out at humanevents.com.

00:33:13.000 But I do want to play old Don Lamon and then new Joy Reed.

00:33:18.000 And I just think it's interesting because, look, Don Lamon is now one of the wokier spokespeople on television.

00:33:26.000 He'll say what he needs to be said.

00:33:27.000 I mean, it was him that said, oh, you know, the protests are mostly peaceful and cheering on all the racial reckoning stuff, which was really racial arson.

00:33:37.000 And so, but he used to be focused on things that actually could materially help the black community.

00:33:46.000 You see, prior to the kind of advent of BLM in 2015-16, Ferguson, George Soros funding a lot of these organizations, Nicole Hannah Jones, 1619 Project, there was a movement that was really focused on trying to talk about legitimate issues like fatherlessness, gang violence.

00:34:13.000 Like this is stuff that obviously we can agree on that we want to try to solve.

00:34:17.000 I mean, no one has ever said that there are not issues in America.

00:34:20.000 We just think those issues don't have to do with a white man.

00:34:24.000 And kind of always entrenched in this constant repetition of its racism.

00:34:29.000 It's racism.

00:34:30.000 It's racism.

00:34:30.000 It's sloppy.

00:34:31.000 It's wrong.

00:34:32.000 It's short-sighted and it's actually really harmful.

00:34:35.000 Okay, so here's Don Lamond talking like a right-winger 10 years ago.

00:34:39.000 What has changed?

00:34:40.000 I have a theory on that.

00:34:41.000 Play cut one. 0.85

00:34:43.000 Because black people, if you really want to fix the problem, here's just five things that you should think about doing. 1.00

00:34:50.000 Here's number five. 0.99

00:34:51.000 Pull up your pants.

00:34:52.000 Number four now is the N-word.

00:34:55.000 Now number three, respect where you live.

00:34:59.000 Start small by not dropping trash, littering in your own communities.

00:35:03.000 Number two, finish school.

00:35:05.000 You want to break the cycle of poverty?

00:35:07.000 Stop telling kids are acting white because they go to school or they speak proper English.

00:35:12.000 And number one, and probably the most important, just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should, especially without planning for one or getting married first.

00:35:23.000 Studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison. 0.99

00:35:28.000 If I were to say that exact speech, just the N-word thing aside, because I didn't quite track what he was saying there.

00:35:33.000 It didn't really make sense.

00:35:34.000 The other four did make sense.

00:35:36.000 If I were to go and give a speech, I'd say tell people to pull up your pants and to stop littering and to finish school.

00:35:42.000 Oh, to stop saying the N-word, got it.

00:35:44.000 Okay, I didn't quite catch that.

00:35:46.000 And to stop, you know, maybe to get married before you have kids, I would be called a racist.

00:35:50.000 Don Lamond said that 10 years ago, and none of it was about the white man.

00:35:56.000 No, instead, he said, stop using the insult of saying you're talking white.

00:36:03.000 That's actually not helpful.

00:36:04.000 So what has changed?

00:36:06.000 What changed is that some of those things are actually a problem.

00:36:09.000 And they're no longer being discussed because no one gets powerful if you actually tell a community to start to change their behavior.

00:36:19.000 No, people get powerful and they remain in power if you're able to have a villain. 0.82

00:36:24.000 And that villain needs to be white people. 0.97

00:36:28.000 So of course they act as if all police officers are white and they build an entire revolutionary movement around this. 0.61

00:36:35.000 And so just you just heard Don 10 years ago.

00:36:38.000 Now listen to Joy Reed today or last couple days.

00:36:41.000 Just look at how different the conversation has gone in 10 years.

00:36:45.000 Play Cut 41.

00:36:47.000 What's been a problem for Florida is now a problem for America.

00:36:51.000 DeSantis is determined to stamp out intellectual freedom, pretty much on brand for DeSantis, who clearly wants to be president and who is on tour to signal to the nation how he would govern.

00:37:02.000 And that is by replacing a multitude of ideas with the one idea he holds dear: the centrality of white Christian thought. 0.55

00:37:09.000 And who, let's be clear, is using woke to mean any notion that brown, black, LGBTQ people and women are citizens rather than subjects.

00:37:19.000 What is she wearing?

00:37:20.000 What is that all about?

00:37:21.000 What are you like, Cersei Lannister or something?

00:37:24.000 Anyway, yeah, okay.

00:37:27.000 Everyone needs a villain.

00:37:28.000 And Joy Reed, instead of talking about the things that Don Lemon talked about, is that somehow woke means it's obviously and patently untrue.

00:37:37.000 And somehow everything we care about is white Christian thought.

00:37:40.000 What does that even mean?

00:37:42.000 It means that Joy Reed, thinking one-dimensionally on MSNBC, needs to try to keep on playing the race guard because it keeps Democrats powerful. 1.00

00:37:53.000 It's not a good development over the last decade.

00:37:56.000 We went from how Don Lamond was talking to Joy Reed.

00:37:59.000 We got to fix that.

00:38:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:38:01.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:38:05.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 23, 2023

Can the Asbury Gospel Go Global? with Keelin Darby and Michael Aper

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