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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000We have Election Day across the country.
00:01:14.000By the way, there's a race going on in Mesa, and Blake's going to give us a brief on that in just a second.
00:01:20.000But first, I want to welcome in Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit.
00:01:37.000Rich, I want to know, break down for us what you're seeing out there.
00:01:40.000What's going to decide these different races in VA, New Jersey, obviously the judges in Pennsylvania and New York City.
00:01:50.000So New Jersey is the one, I'll be just flat out, is the one that I'm most interested because I really do feel like the environment in New Jersey and the states tradition, you know, it's this historical tradition of not wanting to elect three terms for the same party does matter.
00:04:23.000I know that that's a sad commentary on the state of our politics, but for a really what happened is about 10% of Democrats were unwilling to tell us they would vote for Jay Jones.
00:04:33.000And that was leading a lot of people to believe we may have a big undervote where they just don't cast a ballot for Attorney General.
00:04:39.000But I'm more leaning toward they're just going to vote for Jay Jones.
00:04:42.000Well, and I want to bring in Blake for this as well.
00:04:44.000But, you know, you see these polls, right, Rich and Blake, where they basically say, oh, look at the Democrat approval rating.
00:04:51.000Is it historic lows, 26% approval rating and all this stuff?
00:04:54.000And I'm like, that's doesn't, it's not going to translate to I'm pretty sure Republicans won like their biggest House race ever in a year where they had incredibly low approval.
00:05:02.000It's sort of just a sport to hate your own party up there.
00:05:04.000Yeah, it's just like, I hate, I hate the leadership of my, I don't like Chuck Schumer.
00:05:08.000Therefore, I'm going to vote or I'm going to tell a pollster that I'm upset with the Democrat Party.
00:05:13.000They'll still pull the trigger for, gosh, I got to get that out of my lexicon here.
00:05:17.000They're still going to, they're still going to drop the vote for Jay Jones for the AG race.
00:05:23.000They're still going to go for the Democrat candidate, even though he's a socialist/slash communist in New York City.
00:06:36.000They'll still vote for them if they're the voters saying, I have an unfavorable opinion on the party because I want it to be more progressive, right?
00:06:44.000Does that mean they're going to sit home?
00:06:47.000Or does that mean they're going to vote for the Republican?
00:07:21.000Julie Spilsbery is a Republican, put many, many quotes around.
00:07:27.000She endorsed Kamala Harris in last year's election.
00:07:31.000Tyler could give you a whole longer list of horror stories about her, but that's the key thing.
00:07:35.000She's a Republican who endorsed Kamala, made herself a face of Republicans for Kamala, and she's representing a conservative part of the East Valley, a conservative part of the Phoenix area.
00:07:47.000Now, if you live in Mesa, you have to live in District 2.
00:07:51.000And if you have it, it is a male-only election.
00:07:54.000You cannot go to the polls and vote in this.
00:07:57.000You have received a ballot in the mail.
00:08:01.000So if you live in that area, go check, see if there's some ballot you ignored, you put in your pile of other mail that you weren't paying attention to, grab it, you can fill it out and still drop it off today.
00:08:29.000So, yeah, and a little backstory on that election, Rich, that was a complete grassroots, bottom-up thing.
00:08:35.000I mean, it was a grassroots activist that filed the recall position, got it across the finish line.
00:08:40.000Of course, turning point action is going to be helping in any way we can because the grassroots is completely revolting against a Republican for Kamala.
00:08:49.000Also, this same Republican, Spillsbury, has basically endorsed some of the transgender craziness within the city.
00:08:57.000So we're keeping a lookout on that as well.
00:09:00.000Rich, I want to take our eyes over to California, Prop 50.
00:09:16.000I mean, I think it bothers me so much because you really start to feel like you're beating a dead horse election cycle after election cycle after election cycle, and people don't listen.
00:10:04.000And it's like at some point you want to say, I told you so, but again, it can be frustrating because sometimes you just don't want to be right, but there just seems there is a lot of complacency out there right now.
00:10:21.000And there's a lot of a feeling of like, you know, what exactly am I voting for?
00:10:25.000So, Rich, one of the things that we've kind of, you know, probably stressed out a lot about over here, and we devoted a lot of our time at Turning Point Action to getting out that low-prop voter in this era of Trump.
00:10:37.000Trump has remade the electorate in so many ways.
00:10:51.000Like, meaning, are we going to see a reversal in 2028?
00:10:56.000Is that just the way we're kind of geared on this side now?
00:10:58.000The truth is we don't know the answer to that.
00:11:00.000And that is why after the 2024 election, what I really tried to convey, Andrew, was that these voters that you guys were, and it was really Donald Trump being at the top of the ticket provided a unique opportunity to help other groups get these voters to the polls because all of the research that we did clearly did say, Donald Trump, if I'm going to go for anybody, it's going to be Donald Trump.
00:11:25.000So the number one goal the Republican Party should have had was courting these voters.
00:11:32.000And I guess we're going to answer your question over the next couple of years.
00:11:36.000I mean, you had to convince these voters that the Republican Party was becoming more like Donald Trump and Donald Trump was not going to revert back to the old Republican Party because they have no loyalties to the Republican Party.
00:12:23.000But Republicans don't seem to get this.
00:12:25.000If you're still saying things like, I think it's dangerous to send Donald Trump to New Jersey because you could increase Democratic turnout, you don't understand the Republican coalition.
00:12:37.000I mean, we're 10 years into this movement now, and there are still some people who don't know this.
00:12:42.000Donald Trump has to be, and I'm sad to say this, but Donald Trump has to be present like he was in 2018 to make sure that people get out to the polls who vote for him and are not sold in the Republican Party.
00:12:54.000And I know that's an unfair thing to ask him, but it's just the state of the party.
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00:14:43.000I mean, this is something where, and I'm just going to say it, right?
00:14:47.000One of the differences between Virginia and New Jersey, New Jersey still has these blue-collar Democrats.
00:14:55.000You got a lot of the ethnic whites, Italian, Irish, Polish.
00:14:58.000They will cross over to vote for Donald Trump.
00:15:01.000Virginia, the Democrats are the white-collar federal workers.
00:15:05.000They're the ones supporting Jay Jones and the No Kings protests.
00:15:09.000Yeah, I see, Jack, because you get the realignment, you know that.
00:15:14.000So I get these people who say, but Virginia, you know, in New Jersey, they voted pretty close on the presidential level.
00:15:20.000And it's, well, that's every time you recite an election that was a year ago or two years ago, you're missing, you're missing the moment, all right?
00:15:39.000This is the tri-state area we're talking about.
00:15:42.000And we talked a lot about this, Rich, where you would look in the last, in 2024, where you would look at different trends from like Wisconsin and you would apply it to this state because the trends follow in this realignment period that we're all living through.
00:15:54.000Jack was asking you about New Jersey to PA to.
00:15:58.000Well, it's, yeah, it's like, so, and just as a guy from PA, you know, I saw this shift in Pennsylvania, and then you go over to New Jersey and you realize that, okay, sure, right, you know, North Jersey, you're going to have more Giants fans.
00:16:11.000You know, we're not going to be rooting for the same teams necessarily.
00:16:14.000But on a political level, these are the type of people you got a lot of, you got a lot of families.
00:16:38.000But so these trends that we saw across, and by the way, the deindustrialization trends that we saw across Pennsylvania have also affected New Jersey.
00:16:47.000And so that's why the same economic and political trends will affect the same area.
00:16:53.000So that gives Trump a bucket to, or excuse me, gives Trump and Chitterelli buckets to be able to dig into on the Democrat side that you just don't have in Virginia.
00:17:13.000Yeah, which flipped at the same time that Morris County, New Jersey flipped.
00:17:18.000Because everybody knows that Bucks County, especially that part of Bucks County that I just cited, is home to like a ton of these professional classes, even from the pharmaceutical sector, a ton of these professional classers, but it's their ancestral ethnic Catholics, right?
00:17:34.000And they're Poles, they're Italians, and Donald Trump was doing extremely well with them.
00:17:39.000And Morris County, and there was even a clip on Fox News in a diner in Marlborough, which is also very similar, that had been trending Democratic for a little bit, but then swung back because of Donald Trump.
00:17:51.000Well, because of Donald Trump in 24, bringing them back and also those lower prop voters who are even educated.
00:17:57.000I mean, this is pretty, pretty, it's not as simple as some people try to really drum it down to.
00:18:04.000It's a little bit more complicated, but you can use this area.
00:18:08.000It's they call it the tri-state area for a reason.
00:18:10.000So you can use these different demographics to, you know, and I wouldn't say superimpose.
00:18:16.000You can't just like a one-for-one superimpose job on them.
00:18:19.000But of course, if you see Hispanics in the boroughs or in certain areas of Pennsylvania, which was a huge story in 2024, when you see them shifting to Donald Trump, working class Hispanics, even then starting to trickle into Puerto Rican communities, if you see them see that occurring in southeastern Pennsylvania, then of course you're going to see it in Gloucestershire in New Jersey, right?
00:18:43.000We're talking about very similar areas with very similar communities, demographics, value systems, and more importantly, ancestry, their background, their voting histories, their beliefs.
00:18:54.000So I just think there's a lot of stale old thinking on the right.
00:18:59.000And, you know, I've been myself doing a little thinking and coming to the conclusion that this, after 10 years of the MAGA movement, none of what we're saying right now should be a shock to anybody.
00:19:15.000When I have people who are not nobodies, folks, tell me, stop criticizing Donald Trump not showing up in New Jersey because we didn't want it to hurt.
00:19:24.000You know, we didn't want it to boost Democratic turnout and hurt Republican turnout.
00:19:27.000I'm thinking, what on earth are you doing in this position?
00:19:31.000Because you don't understand what has been happening in this country in the last 10 years.
00:20:31.000So this is my glass half-full take on everything.
00:20:34.000I believe that Republican voters, because just the huge amount of attention from a media perspective, cultural perspective, on presidential races, that you do tend to, even if we're the low prop party now, we're going to narrow that gap, that turnout gap for presidential, whether it's JD or whoever, in 2028.
00:21:20.000Jim Jordan, chair of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:21:23.000Congressman, it's an honor to have you, and it's the first time we've had you back since everything happened.
00:21:29.000So, you know, please, you know, the floor is yours to remember Charlie however you want.
00:21:37.000Wow, happy warrior fighting for the truth.
00:21:40.000I don't know why I was doing an interview shortly after the tragic taking of his life.
00:21:45.000And I said in that interview, Charlie lived that verse, 2 Timothy 4:7, fight the good fight, finish the course, keep the faith.
00:21:52.000Paul tells that to the young guy, Timothy.
00:21:54.000And Charlie was the young guy, Timothy, who lived that verse.
00:21:57.000And he did it with a smile on his face.
00:21:59.000He did it in a way where he conveyed the truth and set the example that I think we conservatives, Republicans, just Americans, everybody should follow.
00:22:12.000So that's what our daughter, I think I should, I don't know where I should as I may have as on doing a Fox interview, but our youngest daughter is the same age as Charlie, maybe a year older.
00:22:23.000She sent me a text the day that it happened, and she said, this is tragic, certainly for Charlie's family, but also for our generation, he was our limb ball.
00:22:34.000And I thought that's a good way to say it.
00:22:37.000Maybe other people said the same thing, but I know that day when I got that text from Jesse, she actually lives overseas.
00:22:44.000I thought that was a good way to put it.
00:23:54.000Well, I guess what I'm really watching is probably the New York, New Jersey area, because, you know, this Mamdani guy is, you know, he's a socialist.
00:24:06.000I hope not, but it looks like he's going to.
00:24:07.000I kind of want to see what those margins are.
00:24:09.000But I think as many people have said, that sort of tells you where the Democrat Party is today, if in fact he does go ahead and win this mayor's race in our great city, New York City.
00:24:20.000And then right next door, to see if Chitterelli can pull this off.
00:24:44.000He's seems to me like I've never met him personally, but seemed to be like a total common sense kind of guy that you kind of want running your state.
00:24:58.000I hope we defeat Prop 50 because if we lose that one, we're going to lose some probably some good members of Congress, some really good members like Mr. Kiley, good member Darrell Issa.
00:25:08.000They're all going to have tougher races and they're friends of mine.
00:25:10.000So I hope we prevail, but it doesn't look great.
00:25:13.000Well, it's going to put a lot of pressure on states like Indiana to get their act together.
00:25:17.000Ohio, obviously, the redistricting fights will continue on.
00:25:24.000Even with a ceasefire now in place, the people of Israel continue to pray for healing from the deep wounds of terrorism and war, pain that touches each and every person in the Holy Land.
00:25:34.000But the journey to healing and restoration has only just begun, and it's far from over, sadly.
00:25:38.000Never has the bridge between Christians and Jews been tested as it has since October 7th.
00:25:43.000But after two years of prayer and tangible acts of love, that bridge stands stronger than ever before.
00:25:49.000God is miraculously fulfilling his plan to unite Christians and Jews for his divine purpose.
00:25:55.000These are prophetic times, and together with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, we can take part.
00:26:00.000United, we can do the holy work of providing food for the hungry, care for the elderly, and healing for the wounded.
00:26:07.000Your prayers and your support help restore hope and strength throughout Israel.
00:26:11.000Let us answer this call together and be a light in the darkness.
00:26:54.000What is the difference between a Democrat, a Democratic socialist, and a communist?
00:27:00.000Well, I'm a Democratic socialist who's also a Democrat.
00:27:03.000And when I say I'm a Democratic socialist, I explain it in the words of Dr. Cainton from decades ago, who said that call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
00:27:11.000There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country.
00:27:15.000Congressman, you're well, it sounds like socialism.
00:27:19.000You can put the word Democrat in front of it, but it sounds like socialism to me if you're going to distribution of wealth taken from one given to another.
00:27:27.000I always tell people 40 years ago, almost 40 years ago, I had the opportunity to compete in the Soviet Union.
00:27:32.000And when you go to places like that, you thank the good Lord you live here.
00:27:35.000And I remember walking into stores in socialist Russia, the Socialist Republic of Russia, whatever, the USSR, and there was nothing on the shelves.
00:27:46.000Like, that's what happens when you go down that road.
00:27:50.000And the things he's promising, I think he's even talked about government-run stores.
00:27:54.000So like I saw government-run stores in Russia, and there was nothing to purchase.
00:28:51.000Because we've got not only the whole debate about SNAP benefits, it looks like the president's going to be forced by a judge's ruling to pay out those snap benefits using other funds.
00:29:04.000We've also got air traffic controller situations.
00:29:07.000We've got another paycheck for our military, November 15th.
00:29:22.000There's maybe a promise of some vote on these Obamacare subsidies, which, by the way, the Democrats made that the focus of their ridiculous shutdown.
00:29:32.000Because remember, never forget the facts.
00:29:34.000Chuck Schumer voted for this six months ago.
00:29:36.000The real debate is Chuck Schumer against Chuck Schumer.
00:29:38.000He voted for it six months ago, encouraged the senators to do so.
00:30:13.000But the simplest way for it is for Chuck Schumer to just do what he did six months ago and vote for this.
00:30:18.000They're talking about giving them a vote on this subsidy issue.
00:30:21.000If they open the government, we'll see how this all shakes out.
00:30:25.000And then finally, the other thing I would just add, because you mentioned this, this food stamp issue, 42 million Americans, greatest country in history, 42 million Americans.
00:31:33.000You're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed to lie when you're under oath talking to Congress.
00:31:38.000It looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did.
00:31:40.000He told us in a deposition in the last Congress, he told us that he did not want the dossier, the crazy Russian dossier we've all heard about.
00:31:48.000Didn't want to include it in the intelligence community assessment, pushed against having it in there.
00:31:53.000But then Tulsi Gabbard declassifies a report from the House Intelligence Committee from several years ago where it says exactly the opposite.
00:31:59.000In there, it says he actually wanted it in the intelligence community assessment.
00:32:03.000And they relate a story where a CIA official comes up to Mr. Brennan and says, Director, this dossier doesn't hold up.
00:32:12.000There's no underlying intelligence to support the claims of this foreigner, Christopher Steele, who wrote this thing.
00:32:17.000Brennan's response was, yeah, but doesn't it ring true?
00:32:22.000I think fully displaying his motivation about him wanting to get President Trump and go after him and putting it in this intelligence community assessment, which was the report that they changed between Election Day 2016 and Inauguration Day in January 2017.
00:32:44.000And when you couple it with everything else we know about what Brennan and Clapper and they all did right when President Trump was going from winning the election to being sworn in as the next president, it's pretty darn bad.
00:35:14.000As Jack Pesovic was tweeting, we need every grandmom in New Jersey to show up to the polls right now.
00:35:21.000But we're going to push in all Jersey.
00:35:23.000We want to make sure that we do sound the alarm.
00:35:25.000Full grandma activation across New Jersey right now.
00:35:29.000Yeah, I mean, and really, it's raising a bigger point of, you know, how are Republicans going to really start, I guess, activating the way that we need to in off-cycle elections, right?
00:35:41.000And, you know, we saw this in Wisconsin last year or earlier this year, and it was a disappointment.
00:35:46.000We're going to have to fix this problem.
00:35:49.000But again, I just want to say, you know, New Jersey is a fight that they expect to win.
00:35:56.000I joke with everybody that there's no such thing as an off year, right?
00:35:59.000We thought last year was this huge paramount year, and then all of a sudden we find ourselves, you know, when you have some success, people call you, say, hey, how do we do that in our state?
00:36:08.000But obviously, we were doubling down on PA.
00:36:10.000And as we've said from the beginning, you know, if Pennsylvania becomes a red wall, it pretty much makes it impossible for Democrats to figure out the math to win across the country.
00:36:19.000But yeah, look, we're out here grinding.
00:36:21.000As Charlie would say, knock that extra door.
00:36:45.000We need to have a battle here, especially in the wake of Charlie's tragedy.
00:36:49.000Like, we need something to get involved with.
00:36:52.000So the fact that this is even competitive is a very good sign.
00:36:55.000And the numbers are this: if Jack wins election day, just election day voting, by roughly 300,000, maybe even 290,000, he could still win this race.
00:37:13.000Okay, we've done the work with early voting.
00:37:15.000We have a 5% increase in early voting when you compare this year to four years ago on where the Republicans are.
00:37:22.000So we've done a lot of that vote by mail and early voting.
00:37:25.000But right now, we need every Republican in New Jersey to get out there, whether it's one of the 57,000 that have a mailing ballot sitting there that they haven't returned, or if it's Election Day voting, we need you out there.
00:37:38.000So, and I saw that earlier on social media.
00:37:41.000There's 57,000 New Jersey Republicans that have a vote by mail ballot sitting somewhere at their home.
00:37:48.000If that's you listening right now, what's the instruction?
00:37:51.000You take that piece of paper and you take it into the polling place, or you go, if you just go into the polling place, you're going to be taken care of?
00:37:58.000Oh, so it's very specific in New Jersey.