The Charlie Kirk Show - November 04, 2025


Can Trump Voters Become GOP Voters?


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Election Day is finally here! Join us as we break down the key races across the country, including the close race for U.S. Attorney General between Democrat Corey A. Vance and Republican Jay Jones.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to hour two of the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000 We have Election Day across the country.
00:01:14.000 By the way, there's a race going on in Mesa, and Blake's going to give us a brief on that in just a second.
00:01:20.000 But first, I want to welcome in Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit.
00:01:24.000 Rich, thanks for racing back.
00:01:26.000 I know you were out and about and you hustled back to make it for the show.
00:01:30.000 So thank you, my friend.
00:01:31.000 We also got Jack Pesobic, Human Events Daily Host here.
00:01:35.000 And let's do a four-up here.
00:01:37.000 Rich, I want to know, break down for us what you're seeing out there.
00:01:40.000 What's going to decide these different races in VA, New Jersey, obviously the judges in Pennsylvania and New York City.
00:01:50.000 So New Jersey is the one, I'll be just flat out, is the one that I'm most interested because I really do feel like the environment in New Jersey and the states tradition, you know, it's this historical tradition of not wanting to elect three terms for the same party does matter.
00:02:08.000 I lived there for years.
00:02:09.000 I know it.
00:02:10.000 People talk about it.
00:02:11.000 It's a thing. 0.95
00:02:12.000 So that is the race that I'm most interested in. 0.95
00:02:12.000 All right. 0.95
00:02:15.000 And interestingly enough, we do get partisan data from counties as the day goes on.
00:02:20.000 So of course, I'm looking at Mammoth.
00:02:21.000 I'm looking at Ocean and a ton of other places to see if Republican turnout is going to be sufficient.
00:02:27.000 Also, Jack Siderelli is winning independence by a pretty decent margin.
00:02:32.000 The independent turnout today is going to make a big difference.
00:02:36.000 So in the early vote, it was not as high as Republicans would have liked to see it, but we'll see what happens on Election Day.
00:02:43.000 Yeah, we're getting reports from Cliff Maloney that the turnout is good, not great.
00:02:49.000 So it's, I mean, this thing really could come down to the wire here, Rich.
00:02:54.000 So listen, we've seen, I want to pivot really quickly to Jay Jones, the AG race in Virginia.
00:03:03.000 That is a race that looks winnable, but it looks like Winsom Sears is falling behind, which could implicate down ballot races.
00:03:11.000 What are you seeing?
00:03:12.000 So we have been polling this for a private project that we're doing.
00:03:15.000 We've been tracking it since it's like 11 days now, Andrew. 0.70
00:03:19.000 And it looked like Mayaris had a sizable lead to the point where I was ready to just tell people this race is over.
00:03:26.000 But what happened is that Winsom Sears did fall behind.
00:03:29.000 And the more she fell behind, the more Spanberger was pulling others up.
00:03:35.000 Even the lieutenant governor's race, by the way.
00:03:37.000 Reed didn't have a whole lot of money, but he traveled the state, ran a retail campaign, a very accessible campaign.
00:03:42.000 The media got to ask him any question he wanted.
00:03:45.000 He would sit for hours and talk to voters in these forums.
00:03:48.000 And the race was fairly tight when we started to poll it.
00:03:51.000 It was a lot of undecideds, but it was fairly tight.
00:03:54.000 As Sears began to lag, it did start to hurt the other candidates.
00:03:58.000 I mean, I can actually tell you, I mean, it's basically a tide race for Attorney General right now.
00:04:03.000 So I think, and this is connected to some of the other work we've been doing.
00:04:07.000 I think for a while, Democrats were just unwilling to tell the pollster that they were going to vote for Jones regardless.
00:04:15.000 And that doesn't surprise me given some of the work we've done, you know, what we've been hearing from Democrats lately.
00:04:21.000 That doesn't really surprise me, Andrew.
00:04:23.000 I know that that's a sad commentary on the state of our politics, but for a really what happened is about 10% of Democrats were unwilling to tell us they would vote for Jay Jones.
00:04:33.000 And that was leading a lot of people to believe we may have a big undervote where they just don't cast a ballot for Attorney General.
00:04:39.000 But I'm more leaning toward they're just going to vote for Jay Jones.
00:04:42.000 Well, and I want to bring in Blake for this as well.
00:04:44.000 But, you know, you see these polls, right, Rich and Blake, where they basically say, oh, look at the Democrat approval rating.
00:04:51.000 Is it historic lows, 26% approval rating and all this stuff?
00:04:54.000 And I'm like, that's doesn't, it's not going to translate to I'm pretty sure Republicans won like their biggest House race ever in a year where they had incredibly low approval.
00:05:02.000 It's sort of just a sport to hate your own party up there.
00:05:04.000 Yeah, it's just like, I hate, I hate the leadership of my, I don't like Chuck Schumer.
00:05:08.000 Therefore, I'm going to vote or I'm going to tell a pollster that I'm upset with the Democrat Party.
00:05:13.000 They'll still pull the trigger for, gosh, I got to get that out of my lexicon here.
00:05:17.000 They're still going to, they're still going to drop the vote for Jay Jones for the AG race.
00:05:23.000 They're still going to go for the Democrat candidate, even though he's a socialist/slash communist in New York City.
00:05:29.000 Am I reading that right?
00:05:31.000 I mean, and also, too, I think some of these polls, you know, I've been a critic of the polling industry for a while.
00:05:31.000 Yeah, you are.
00:05:40.000 I think they're just full of it.
00:05:41.000 You know, you have some of these polls out there, like Quinnipiak and the CNN poll that came out.
00:05:47.000 They are doing that on purpose.
00:05:49.000 I think some of this is to sow complacency among the right.
00:05:52.000 Are Democrats in a bad place with their brand?
00:05:55.000 Yes, but you have two things, almost what we saw with Republicans, by the way, where Republicans used to be very unpopular.
00:06:02.000 Much of it was coming from their own voters saying, Look, I wish you did more of this.
00:06:07.000 I wish you were more right-wing.
00:06:09.000 I wish you were more America first.
00:06:11.000 It would never occur to people that it may not impact their electoral viability.
00:06:19.000 And here, I think we just did that as well: favorability for both the parties.
00:06:23.000 Republicans and Democrats are both underwater in our polling.
00:06:27.000 Democrats, much more so.
00:06:29.000 But it wasn't because voters were checked out on them.
00:06:35.000 You know what I mean, guys?
00:06:36.000 They'll still vote for them if they're the voters saying, I have an unfavorable opinion on the party because I want it to be more progressive, right?
00:06:44.000 Does that mean they're going to sit home?
00:06:47.000 Or does that mean they're going to vote for the Republican?
00:06:49.000 Of course not.
00:06:50.000 And it didn't mean that when Republicans exhibited the same behavior in polling either.
00:06:55.000 Awesome.
00:06:55.000 Blake, why don't you tell us about Mesa?
00:06:58.000 Rich, I don't know if you're watching this.
00:07:00.000 I wanted to flag this because Charlie always cared a lot about the local Arizona races.
00:07:04.000 He heard a lot about making Arizona as conservative as possible.
00:07:07.000 So this is a local race, but one near and dear to his heart.
00:07:11.000 So we have a council member in Mesa.
00:07:14.000 That's the town right here.
00:07:15.000 It's one of the biggest suburbs of Phoenix, Julie Spilsberry in District 2.
00:07:19.000 And we are attempting to recall her.
00:07:21.000 Julie Spilsbery is a Republican, put many, many quotes around.
00:07:27.000 She endorsed Kamala Harris in last year's election. 0.97
00:07:31.000 Tyler could give you a whole longer list of horror stories about her, but that's the key thing.
00:07:35.000 She's a Republican who endorsed Kamala, made herself a face of Republicans for Kamala, and she's representing a conservative part of the East Valley, a conservative part of the Phoenix area.
00:07:46.000 So we want to recall her.
00:07:47.000 Now, if you live in Mesa, you have to live in District 2.
00:07:51.000 And if you have it, it is a male-only election.
00:07:54.000 You cannot go to the polls and vote in this. 0.65
00:07:57.000 You have received a ballot in the mail.
00:08:01.000 So if you live in that area, go check, see if there's some ballot you ignored, you put in your pile of other mail that you weren't paying attention to, grab it, you can fill it out and still drop it off today.
00:08:12.000 You can't drop it in a mailbox.
00:08:14.000 You have to, at this point, drive it directly to the polling center and then you can drop it off.
00:08:19.000 But that is how you can vote.
00:08:21.000 We want to recall Spillsbury.
00:08:23.000 You want to be putting Doreen Taylor in instead.
00:08:27.000 Yep, that is important.
00:08:29.000 So, yeah, and a little backstory on that election, Rich, that was a complete grassroots, bottom-up thing.
00:08:35.000 I mean, it was a grassroots activist that filed the recall position, got it across the finish line.
00:08:40.000 Of course, turning point action is going to be helping in any way we can because the grassroots is completely revolting against a Republican for Kamala. 1.00
00:08:49.000 Also, this same Republican, Spillsbury, has basically endorsed some of the transgender craziness within the city. 0.98
00:08:57.000 So we're keeping a lookout on that as well. 1.00
00:09:00.000 Rich, I want to take our eyes over to California, Prop 50.
00:09:04.000 It's going to pass, isn't it?
00:09:05.000 Overwhelmingly, it's going to pass.
00:09:08.000 And I always tell it how it is.
00:09:11.000 I'm looking around at some of those returns in California.
00:09:14.000 Look at a county like Stannis-Laos.
00:09:16.000 I mean, I think it bothers me so much because you really start to feel like you're beating a dead horse election cycle after election cycle after election cycle, and people don't listen.
00:09:29.000 And that is a district.
00:09:30.000 That's a county that's in a district.
00:09:32.000 California is 13.
00:09:33.000 It was represented by John Duarte.
00:09:35.000 He trailed Donald Trump badly because this is a Central Valley, heavily Hispanic working class area.
00:09:42.000 Donald Trump carried the district.
00:09:43.000 John Duarte lost.
00:09:45.000 And now Republicans, their returns in Merced and Stannis-Laos are absolutely anemic.
00:09:52.000 Even Madeira, which is the heart of that, I wouldn't even say the Republican or conservative heart of it.
00:09:59.000 It's pretty MAGA.
00:10:00.000 That's the heart of that district.
00:10:02.000 It's terrible.
00:10:04.000 And it's like at some point you want to say, I told you so, but again, it can be frustrating because sometimes you just don't want to be right, but there just seems there is a lot of complacency out there right now.
00:10:21.000 And there's a lot of a feeling of like, you know, what exactly am I voting for?
00:10:25.000 So, Rich, one of the things that we've kind of, you know, probably stressed out a lot about over here, and we devoted a lot of our time at Turning Point Action to getting out that low-prop voter in this era of Trump.
00:10:37.000 Trump has remade the electorate in so many ways.
00:10:41.000 You know, what do we do?
00:10:43.000 Is it just a presidential election cycle that we seem to be so anemic about this turnout?
00:10:49.000 Or is it Trump directly?
00:10:51.000 Like, meaning, are we going to see a reversal in 2028?
00:10:56.000 Is that just the way we're kind of geared on this side now?
00:10:58.000 The truth is we don't know the answer to that.
00:11:00.000 And that is why after the 2024 election, what I really tried to convey, Andrew, was that these voters that you guys were, and it was really Donald Trump being at the top of the ticket provided a unique opportunity to help other groups get these voters to the polls because all of the research that we did clearly did say, Donald Trump, if I'm going to go for anybody, it's going to be Donald Trump.
00:11:25.000 So the number one goal the Republican Party should have had was courting these voters.
00:11:32.000 And I guess we're going to answer your question over the next couple of years.
00:11:36.000 I mean, you had to convince these voters that the Republican Party was becoming more like Donald Trump and Donald Trump was not going to revert back to the old Republican Party because they have no loyalties to the Republican Party.
00:11:49.000 It's just the truth.
00:11:50.000 And a lot of people resisted this just when you look at New Jersey, for instance.
00:11:54.000 And I'm not here to criticize.
00:11:56.000 I'm just flatly saying what happened.
00:11:58.000 There were a lot of the minds around the president saying, you know what?
00:12:01.000 You know, we're concerned that if you go there, you're going to drive up Democratic turnout.
00:12:06.000 Andrew, that presents a fundamental misunderstanding of the realignment.
00:12:11.000 Democrats are now the party of higher propensity turnout educated voters, more educated, or as Charlie used to say, credentialed.
00:12:18.000 Don't say educated, rich.
00:12:20.000 They're credentialed, right?
00:12:21.000 And that's true.
00:12:23.000 But Republicans don't seem to get this.
00:12:25.000 If you're still saying things like, I think it's dangerous to send Donald Trump to New Jersey because you could increase Democratic turnout, you don't understand the Republican coalition.
00:12:35.000 Like fundamentally, period.
00:12:37.000 I mean, we're 10 years into this movement now, and there are still some people who don't know this.
00:12:42.000 Donald Trump has to be, and I'm sad to say this, but Donald Trump has to be present like he was in 2018 to make sure that people get out to the polls who vote for him and are not sold in the Republican Party.
00:12:54.000 And I know that's an unfair thing to ask him, but it's just the state of the party.
00:12:59.000 I mean, Republicans aren't ready yet.
00:13:01.000 They're not ready yet.
00:13:02.000 I think, I think, yeah.
00:13:04.000 And that's sad.
00:13:04.000 I mean, especially in a place like New Jersey where, you know, I think Trump could have a major impact.
00:13:10.000 He's not been present.
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00:14:41.000 Jack, you got the next cue.
00:14:43.000 Yeah, Rich.
00:14:43.000 I mean, this is something where, and I'm just going to say it, right?
00:14:47.000 One of the differences between Virginia and New Jersey, New Jersey still has these blue-collar Democrats.
00:14:55.000 You got a lot of the ethnic whites, Italian, Irish, Polish.
00:14:58.000 They will cross over to vote for Donald Trump.
00:15:01.000 Virginia, the Democrats are the white-collar federal workers.
00:15:05.000 They're the ones supporting Jay Jones and the No Kings protests.
00:15:09.000 Yeah, I see, Jack, because you get the realignment, you know that.
00:15:14.000 So I get these people who say, but Virginia, you know, in New Jersey, they voted pretty close on the presidential level.
00:15:20.000 And it's, well, that's every time you recite an election that was a year ago or two years ago, you're missing, you're missing the moment, all right?
00:15:29.000 Like trends continue, Jack.
00:15:31.000 They don't just stop and freeze in time.
00:15:33.000 And things don't occur in a vacuum where you don't stop at borders like Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
00:15:38.000 Unbelievably not.
00:15:39.000 Right.
00:15:39.000 This is the tri-state area we're talking about.
00:15:42.000 And we talked a lot about this, Rich, where you would look in the last, in 2024, where you would look at different trends from like Wisconsin and you would apply it to this state because the trends follow in this realignment period that we're all living through.
00:15:54.000 Jack was asking you about New Jersey to PA to.
00:15:58.000 Well, it's, yeah, it's like, so, and just as a guy from PA, you know, I saw this shift in Pennsylvania, and then you go over to New Jersey and you realize that, okay, sure, right, you know, North Jersey, you're going to have more Giants fans.
00:16:11.000 You know, we're not going to be rooting for the same teams necessarily.
00:16:14.000 But on a political level, these are the type of people you got a lot of, you got a lot of families.
00:16:19.000 They join the police force.
00:16:20.000 They join the fire department.
00:16:22.000 They've got nice civic associations.
00:16:24.000 It just reminds me a lot of Pennsylvania when I'm there in a way that Northern Virginia just does not. 0.89
00:16:30.000 It's white collar. 0.73
00:16:31.000 Obviously, you have a lot of like Mamdani-style Gimme Grants that are living in Northern Virginia right now.
00:16:37.000 It's a totally different dynamic.
00:16:38.000 But so these trends that we saw across, and by the way, the deindustrialization trends that we saw across Pennsylvania have also affected New Jersey.
00:16:47.000 And so that's why the same economic and political trends will affect the same area.
00:16:53.000 So that gives Trump a bucket to, or excuse me, gives Trump and Chitterelli buckets to be able to dig into on the Democrat side that you just don't have in Virginia.
00:17:03.000 Yeah, that's 100% correct.
00:17:06.000 You look at a place like Bucks County, and I'll get even more specific.
00:17:09.000 Buckingham, you have Lower One.
00:17:11.000 Bucks County, which flipped.
00:17:13.000 Yeah, which flipped at the same time that Morris County, New Jersey flipped. 0.99
00:17:18.000 Because everybody knows that Bucks County, especially that part of Bucks County that I just cited, is home to like a ton of these professional classes, even from the pharmaceutical sector, a ton of these professional classers, but it's their ancestral ethnic Catholics, right? 0.98
00:17:18.000 Why? 0.98
00:17:34.000 And they're Poles, they're Italians, and Donald Trump was doing extremely well with them.
00:17:39.000 And Morris County, and there was even a clip on Fox News in a diner in Marlborough, which is also very similar, that had been trending Democratic for a little bit, but then swung back because of Donald Trump.
00:17:51.000 Well, because of Donald Trump in 24, bringing them back and also those lower prop voters who are even educated.
00:17:57.000 I mean, this is pretty, pretty, it's not as simple as some people try to really drum it down to.
00:18:04.000 It's a little bit more complicated, but you can use this area.
00:18:08.000 It's they call it the tri-state area for a reason.
00:18:10.000 So you can use these different demographics to, you know, and I wouldn't say superimpose.
00:18:16.000 You can't just like a one-for-one superimpose job on them.
00:18:19.000 But of course, if you see Hispanics in the boroughs or in certain areas of Pennsylvania, which was a huge story in 2024, when you see them shifting to Donald Trump, working class Hispanics, even then starting to trickle into Puerto Rican communities, if you see them see that occurring in southeastern Pennsylvania, then of course you're going to see it in Gloucestershire in New Jersey, right?
00:18:43.000 We're talking about very similar areas with very similar communities, demographics, value systems, and more importantly, ancestry, their background, their voting histories, their beliefs.
00:18:54.000 So I just think there's a lot of stale old thinking on the right.
00:18:59.000 And, you know, I've been myself doing a little thinking and coming to the conclusion that this, after 10 years of the MAGA movement, none of what we're saying right now should be a shock to anybody.
00:19:12.000 And I'm stunned that it still is.
00:19:14.000 I really am.
00:19:15.000 When I have people who are not nobodies, folks, tell me, stop criticizing Donald Trump not showing up in New Jersey because we didn't want it to hurt.
00:19:24.000 You know, we didn't want it to boost Democratic turnout and hurt Republican turnout.
00:19:27.000 I'm thinking, what on earth are you doing in this position?
00:19:31.000 Because you don't understand what has been happening in this country in the last 10 years.
00:19:36.000 You have zero clue.
00:19:37.000 All right.
00:19:38.000 So I meant to actually send you guys a chart.
00:19:39.000 It would have been perfect for this show.
00:19:41.000 But these voters we've been comparing with Republican identification.
00:19:45.000 If you are a first-time Republican or a Trump voter, really, Republicans don't have first-time voters.
00:19:50.000 Trump has first-time voters.
00:19:52.000 MAGA has first-time voters.
00:19:54.000 America First has first-time voters.
00:19:56.000 Republicans don't have first-time voters.
00:19:58.000 Rich, just before you get the break, you know, we are going to be doing the super stream tonight.
00:20:02.000 I know you're in high demand, but we'd love to get you on.
00:20:04.000 We'd love to get that chart up.
00:20:05.000 I will definitely come on by, Jack.
00:20:07.000 I think this is so critical and so important.
00:20:10.000 And the clock is going to be on because people don't realize that Rich and I are wearing the same shirt today.
00:20:15.000 Get out of here.
00:20:16.000 It's literally the same exact shirt.
00:20:18.000 That is the same shirt.
00:20:20.000 100%.
00:20:21.000 Listen, hopefully, it's not like Democrat blue. 0.93
00:20:24.000 Hopefully, it's like...
00:20:25.000 No, it's purple like New Jersey.
00:20:28.000 It's more like a blue.
00:20:29.000 Well, listen, Rich.
00:20:30.000 It's more like a bluish purple.
00:20:31.000 So this is my glass half-full take on everything.
00:20:34.000 I believe that Republican voters, because just the huge amount of attention from a media perspective, cultural perspective, on presidential races, that you do tend to, even if we're the low prop party now, we're going to narrow that gap, that turnout gap for presidential, whether it's JD or whoever, in 2028.
00:20:55.000 And I will say this: glass half-full.
00:20:57.000 We're playing on their turf.
00:20:58.000 New Jersey, Virginia, New York City.
00:21:01.000 These are areas that we don't dominate.
00:21:02.000 We have to be honest about that.
00:21:03.000 And the fact that we have them on their heels and we're playing offense, I still am going to take that as positive.
00:21:09.000 Now, we're not done, but it is what it is.
00:21:12.000 Rich Barris, we'll see you tonight, my friend.
00:21:14.000 All the best.
00:21:15.000 Take care, guys.
00:21:18.000 Welcome to the show.
00:21:20.000 Jim Jordan, chair of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:21:23.000 Congressman, it's an honor to have you, and it's the first time we've had you back since everything happened.
00:21:29.000 So, you know, please, you know, the floor is yours to remember Charlie however you want.
00:21:37.000 Wow, happy warrior fighting for the truth.
00:21:40.000 I don't know why I was doing an interview shortly after the tragic taking of his life.
00:21:45.000 And I said in that interview, Charlie lived that verse, 2 Timothy 4:7, fight the good fight, finish the course, keep the faith.
00:21:52.000 Paul tells that to the young guy, Timothy.
00:21:54.000 And Charlie was the young guy, Timothy, who lived that verse.
00:21:57.000 And he did it with a smile on his face.
00:21:59.000 He did it in a way where he conveyed the truth and set the example that I think we conservatives, Republicans, just Americans, everybody should follow.
00:22:12.000 So that's what our daughter, I think I should, I don't know where I should as I may have as on doing a Fox interview, but our youngest daughter is the same age as Charlie, maybe a year older.
00:22:23.000 She sent me a text the day that it happened, and she said, this is tragic, certainly for Charlie's family, but also for our generation, he was our limb ball.
00:22:34.000 And I thought that's a good way to say it.
00:22:37.000 Maybe other people said the same thing, but I know that day when I got that text from Jesse, she actually lives overseas.
00:22:44.000 I thought that was a good way to put it.
00:22:46.000 So he was a good man.
00:22:48.000 Well, I mean, that's a great honor.
00:22:49.000 I remember, you know, people asked what Charlie wanted to do with his future, if he's going to run for president.
00:22:55.000 I mean, I had those conversations over the years with Charlie as well.
00:22:58.000 And one time I asked him, I said, you want to be this?
00:23:00.000 You want to be Rush Limbaugh.
00:23:02.000 I forget what I, the alternative.
00:23:03.000 I think it was some sort of political leader.
00:23:05.000 And he said, I want to be more like Rush Limbaugh.
00:23:08.000 And Rush and Charlie were great friends.
00:23:11.000 Rush was actually a seven-figure donor to Turning Point USA, if you believe me.
00:23:16.000 No kidding.
00:23:16.000 I didn't know that.
00:23:17.000 I didn't know that.
00:23:19.000 His wife Catherine gave us permission to disclose that after Rush's passing.
00:23:23.000 And yeah, anyways, you and Charlie were great friends and you were close allies.
00:23:29.000 And, you know, it's an honor to have you back on the show.
00:23:32.000 And today is election day.
00:23:34.000 Today is Election Day, Congressman.
00:23:36.000 And, you know, all across the country, especially on the East Coast, but we have a race here in Mesa.
00:23:41.000 We've got Prop 50 in California.
00:23:43.000 Everybody, get out to the polls.
00:23:45.000 You know, what are you watching?
00:23:46.000 What are you looking for?
00:23:47.000 And what's your message to Republican conservatives, independent leaning right kind of voters?
00:23:53.000 What's your message? 0.97
00:23:54.000 Well, I guess what I'm really watching is probably the New York, New Jersey area, because, you know, this Mamdani guy is, you know, he's a socialist. 0.98
00:24:02.000 So I want to see what happens there. 0.99
00:24:04.000 It looks like he's going to prevail.
00:24:06.000 I hope not, but it looks like he's going to.
00:24:07.000 I kind of want to see what those margins are.
00:24:09.000 But I think as many people have said, that sort of tells you where the Democrat Party is today, if in fact he does go ahead and win this mayor's race in our great city, New York City.
00:24:20.000 And then right next door, to see if Chitterelli can pull this off.
00:24:25.000 And people are saying it's close.
00:24:28.000 I hope Mr. Chitterelli wins.
00:24:29.000 I think it's interesting.
00:24:30.000 By the way, Jack Chitterelli, if that isn't like when you see him, hear him talk, look at him, hear his name.
00:24:36.000 If that isn't New Jersey, just personified, I don't know what it is.
00:24:41.000 Totally, that's the right word.
00:24:43.000 Totally New Jersey.
00:24:43.000 So I hope he pulls it off.
00:24:44.000 He's seems to me like I've never met him personally, but seemed to be like a total common sense kind of guy that you kind of want running your state.
00:24:53.000 So I'm kind of watching those two.
00:24:55.000 I think it looks tough in California for us, unfortunately.
00:24:58.000 I hope not.
00:24:58.000 I hope we defeat Prop 50 because if we lose that one, we're going to lose some probably some good members of Congress, some really good members like Mr. Kiley, good member Darrell Issa.
00:25:08.000 They're all going to have tougher races and they're friends of mine.
00:25:10.000 So I hope we prevail, but it doesn't look great.
00:25:13.000 Well, it's going to put a lot of pressure on states like Indiana to get their act together.
00:25:17.000 Ohio, obviously, the redistricting fights will continue on.
00:25:24.000 Even with a ceasefire now in place, the people of Israel continue to pray for healing from the deep wounds of terrorism and war, pain that touches each and every person in the Holy Land.
00:25:34.000 But the journey to healing and restoration has only just begun, and it's far from over, sadly.
00:25:38.000 Never has the bridge between Christians and Jews been tested as it has since October 7th.
00:25:43.000 But after two years of prayer and tangible acts of love, that bridge stands stronger than ever before.
00:25:49.000 God is miraculously fulfilling his plan to unite Christians and Jews for his divine purpose.
00:25:55.000 These are prophetic times, and together with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, we can take part.
00:26:00.000 United, we can do the holy work of providing food for the hungry, care for the elderly, and healing for the wounded.
00:26:07.000 Your prayers and your support help restore hope and strength throughout Israel.
00:26:11.000 Let us answer this call together and be a light in the darkness.
00:26:14.000 To learn more, visit ifcj.org.
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00:26:24.000 You mentioned New York and the emergence of Mom Danny.
00:26:29.000 And it's interesting.
00:26:30.000 I want to play this clip.
00:26:31.000 It's 175.
00:26:32.000 Get it ready.
00:26:33.000 He's asked to explain the difference between Democrat and Democrat socialist and a communist.
00:26:38.000 So let's hear his answer.
00:26:39.000 How have you responded on the other side?
00:26:40.000 175.
00:26:41.000 How do you respond to that when somebody comes up to you and says, I can't vote for you because you're a communist?
00:26:46.000 I said, there are reasons you might not want to vote for me, but let's be honest with my politics.
00:26:49.000 I'm a Democratic socialist, no matter how many times President Trump calls me otherwise.
00:26:53.000 Yeah, explain the difference.
00:26:54.000 What is the difference between a Democrat, a Democratic socialist, and a communist?
00:27:00.000 Well, I'm a Democratic socialist who's also a Democrat.
00:27:03.000 And when I say I'm a Democratic socialist, I explain it in the words of Dr. Cainton from decades ago, who said that call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
00:27:11.000 There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country.
00:27:15.000 Congressman, you're well, it sounds like socialism.
00:27:19.000 You can put the word Democrat in front of it, but it sounds like socialism to me if you're going to distribution of wealth taken from one given to another.
00:27:27.000 I always tell people 40 years ago, almost 40 years ago, I had the opportunity to compete in the Soviet Union.
00:27:32.000 And when you go to places like that, you thank the good Lord you live here.
00:27:35.000 And I remember walking into stores in socialist Russia, the Socialist Republic of Russia, whatever, the USSR, and there was nothing on the shelves.
00:27:46.000 Like, that's what happens when you go down that road.
00:27:50.000 And the things he's promising, I think he's even talked about government-run stores.
00:27:54.000 So like I saw government-run stores in Russia, and there was nothing to purchase.
00:27:59.000 So yeah, we don't want that.
00:28:03.000 Sounds great.
00:28:03.000 There was a great piece in the journal today where it talked about, you know, socialism and capitalism.
00:28:09.000 Socialism sounds great, never works.
00:28:11.000 Capitalism may not sound the best right when you first hear it, but it works out.
00:28:14.000 And it's a much, much better system where you actually embrace freedom and property and everything else.
00:28:20.000 So yeah, he can put the word Democrat in front of it, but it sounds to me like he's just a socialist.
00:28:25.000 Well, I agree.
00:28:26.000 I will give him credit where it's due that he has been focusing on domestic issues, right?
00:28:32.000 We saw that in the debate, the Democratic primary debate, where he's saying, I'm going to stay right here.
00:28:37.000 He underblying, of course.
00:28:38.000 He went to Uganda. 0.86
00:28:39.000 But it doesn't matter.
00:28:40.000 The point is we got to stay focused on domestic issues.
00:28:43.000 We're in the middle of this shutdown right now, Congressman.
00:28:46.000 Is there any hope of getting out of this?
00:28:48.000 What do you see on the horizon here?
00:28:51.000 Because we've got not only the whole debate about SNAP benefits, it looks like the president's going to be forced by a judge's ruling to pay out those snap benefits using other funds.
00:29:04.000 We've also got air traffic controller situations.
00:29:07.000 We've got another paycheck for our military, November 15th.
00:29:11.000 What are we seeing?
00:29:12.000 What are you hearing?
00:29:13.000 Well, it sounds like there's some movement in the Senate to actually get the government open again, which, of course, is needed.
00:29:21.000 So I think that could happen.
00:29:22.000 There's maybe a promise of some vote on these Obamacare subsidies, which, by the way, the Democrats made that the focus of their ridiculous shutdown.
00:29:32.000 Because remember, never forget the facts.
00:29:34.000 Chuck Schumer voted for this six months ago.
00:29:36.000 The real debate is Chuck Schumer against Chuck Schumer.
00:29:38.000 He voted for it six months ago, encouraged the senators to do so.
00:29:41.000 Democrats and senators do so.
00:29:42.000 And now he won't because they say, oh, we got to extend this expansion of Obamacare and continue subsidizing the insurance companies.
00:29:50.000 And I always point out, remember, everything they told us about Obamacare was a lie.
00:29:55.000 They said, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
00:29:57.000 You like your doctor, keep your doctor.
00:29:58.000 Premiums will go down.
00:30:00.000 President Obama even told us premiums will go down on average $1,500.
00:30:04.000 Well, none of that worked out.
00:30:05.000 And it was so bad that they had to keep subsidizing and expanding the subsidy.
00:30:09.000 So now they want to continue that again.
00:30:11.000 And it just makes no sense.
00:30:13.000 But the simplest way for it is for Chuck Schumer to just do what he did six months ago and vote for this.
00:30:18.000 They're talking about giving them a vote on this subsidy issue.
00:30:21.000 If they open the government, we'll see how this all shakes out.
00:30:25.000 And then finally, the other thing I would just add, because you mentioned this, this food stamp issue, 42 million Americans, greatest country in history, 42 million Americans.
00:30:34.000 Well, many of them aren't Americans.
00:30:36.000 They're here. 1.00
00:30:36.000 They're some kind of people here on Abyssa or aren't citizens of our country. 1.00
00:30:40.000 But 42 million people, that's larger than the entire population of Canada.
00:30:44.000 That's one eighth of our entire population.
00:30:47.000 Really?
00:30:47.000 That many people in this great country, the greatest nation ever, need help from the taxpayer just to get food?
00:30:54.000 That's a problem in and of itself that I think we need to address.
00:30:57.000 And part of it, I think, is the work requirement we put in the big beautiful bill, which hopefully will start helping everybody.
00:31:04.000 Yeah, no, we talked a lot about food stamps on this show because there's a lot of fraud and there's a lot of abuse.
00:31:10.000 And a larger problem is that when people get addicted to these programs, you can't ever get them off.
00:31:16.000 And that's not the way forward either.
00:31:18.000 Really quick here, Congressman, I want to address this.
00:31:23.000 You have referred John Brennan, former CIA director, to the DOJ for criminal prosecution.
00:31:29.000 Two minutes left in this segment, Congressman.
00:31:32.000 Tell us what's going on here.
00:31:33.000 You're not supposed to lie, but you're definitely not supposed to lie when you're under oath talking to Congress.
00:31:38.000 It looks like that's exactly what John Brennan did.
00:31:40.000 He told us in a deposition in the last Congress, he told us that he did not want the dossier, the crazy Russian dossier we've all heard about.
00:31:48.000 Didn't want to include it in the intelligence community assessment, pushed against having it in there.
00:31:53.000 But then Tulsi Gabbard declassifies a report from the House Intelligence Committee from several years ago where it says exactly the opposite.
00:31:59.000 In there, it says he actually wanted it in the intelligence community assessment.
00:32:03.000 And they relate a story where a CIA official comes up to Mr. Brennan and says, Director, this dossier doesn't hold up.
00:32:12.000 There's no underlying intelligence to support the claims of this foreigner, Christopher Steele, who wrote this thing.
00:32:16.000 It doesn't work. 0.98
00:32:17.000 Brennan's response was, yeah, but doesn't it ring true?
00:32:22.000 I think fully displaying his motivation about him wanting to get President Trump and go after him and putting it in this intelligence community assessment, which was the report that they changed between Election Day 2016 and Inauguration Day in January 2017.
00:32:37.000 So that's why we referred him.
00:32:39.000 You're not supposed to come in and lie to Congress when you're under oath.
00:32:42.000 It looks like that's what he did.
00:32:44.000 And when you couple it with everything else we know about what Brennan and Clapper and they all did right when President Trump was going from winning the election to being sworn in as the next president, it's pretty darn bad.
00:32:57.000 And that's why we sent it.
00:32:58.000 We'll see what the Attorney General of the Justice Department do.
00:33:01.000 Well, listen, Congressman, thank you for staying on that story.
00:33:03.000 I think I speak for the audience when I say we want justice and we want accountability.
00:33:08.000 When they talk about the big lie, this was the real big lie.
00:33:11.000 This was the actual big lie.
00:33:13.000 And they tried to distract us from it.
00:33:15.000 They tried to take away President Trump's first term because of this.
00:33:18.000 We do not forget.
00:33:19.000 We do not forget.
00:33:20.000 Forget what you said.
00:33:21.000 Yeah, President Trump fought through it.
00:33:23.000 He fought through it admirably.
00:33:25.000 I don't know if anybody else could have done what he did, but he did.
00:33:28.000 And we're grateful to him.
00:33:29.000 Congressman, God bless you.
00:33:31.000 Thank you for coming on and honoring Charlie the way that you did.
00:33:34.000 And stay on it.
00:33:35.000 We'll have you back on again soon.
00:33:36.000 Thank you.
00:33:37.000 You bet.
00:33:38.000 Thank you, Andrew.
00:33:40.000 We have Cliff Maloney in New Jersey.
00:33:44.000 I'm just going to let you Tasty Cakes, the Tasty Cakes crew, handle this.
00:33:48.000 Cliff, welcome to the show.
00:33:50.000 Where are you at?
00:33:50.000 What's happening?
00:33:51.000 I'm going to convert you, Andrew. 0.97
00:33:53.000 You're the preservative crew. 0.99
00:33:55.000 You will be converted. 0.85
00:33:57.000 I'm splitting all my time just jet-setting between Jersey, PA, Jersey, PA.
00:34:02.000 I'm actually MPA at the moment, but just kind of been back and forth.
00:34:05.000 No time to rest here, folks.
00:34:07.000 We got some elections to win.
00:34:08.000 Cliff, what are you guys, what are you eating on the table behind you, by the way?
00:34:11.000 I see that.
00:34:12.000 Is that Chick-fil-A?
00:34:12.000 What is that?
00:34:14.000 Let's see.
00:34:15.000 They had some Chick-fil-A.
00:34:16.000 They had some Wawa HT. 0.98
00:34:18.000 We've got a sheet down the road, so there's some battles.
00:34:20.000 But we're showing up on some old PA hardy food, if you will.
00:34:26.000 That's election fuel right there.
00:34:27.000 All right.
00:34:27.000 So, Cliff, doors win wars.
00:34:30.000 You guys are out knocking lots and lots of doors.
00:34:32.000 You're going to hit a million today.
00:34:34.000 Is that right?
00:34:37.000 I'm going to announce it here on the show.
00:34:39.000 As of about 10 minutes ago, we now are across 1 million doors.
00:34:43.000 That is 500,000 in New Jersey and 500,000 in PA in our effort to build the red wall.
00:34:50.000 So honored to come on the show to say that.
00:34:52.000 We'll see where we end up.
00:34:54.000 We're not stopping, right?
00:34:55.000 We don't hit a million and stop.
00:34:56.000 So we're going to go until 8 p.m. when polls close in both PA and Jersey.
00:35:01.000 And look, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but the numbers are good, but they're not great, fellas.
00:35:06.000 And I think it's on us to be honest with the audience.
00:35:10.000 If we have good numbers, we're not going to win Jersey.
00:35:12.000 We need great record turnouts.
00:35:14.000 As Jack Pesovic was tweeting, we need every grandmom in New Jersey to show up to the polls right now.
00:35:21.000 But we're going to push in all Jersey.
00:35:23.000 We want to make sure that we do sound the alarm.
00:35:25.000 Full grandma activation across New Jersey right now.
00:35:29.000 Yeah, I mean, and really, it's raising a bigger point of, you know, how are Republicans going to really start, I guess, activating the way that we need to in off-cycle elections, right?
00:35:41.000 And, you know, we saw this in Wisconsin last year or earlier this year, and it was a disappointment.
00:35:46.000 We're going to have to fix this problem.
00:35:49.000 But again, I just want to say, you know, New Jersey is a fight that they expect to win.
00:35:54.000 So if we pull this out, big news.
00:35:56.000 I joke with everybody that there's no such thing as an off year, right?
00:35:59.000 We thought last year was this huge paramount year, and then all of a sudden we find ourselves, you know, when you have some success, people call you, say, hey, how do we do that in our state?
00:36:08.000 But obviously, we were doubling down on PA.
00:36:10.000 And as we've said from the beginning, you know, if Pennsylvania becomes a red wall, it pretty much makes it impossible for Democrats to figure out the math to win across the country.
00:36:19.000 But yeah, look, we're out here grinding.
00:36:21.000 As Charlie would say, knock that extra door.
00:36:23.000 We know that the ground game works.
00:36:25.000 But yeah, you're right.
00:36:26.000 Solving the problem for how we get Republicans activated in these off-year elections.
00:36:32.000 I mean, that's the name of the game.
00:36:33.000 And look, we're making progress.
00:36:35.000 I want to be clear with everybody.
00:36:36.000 Six months ago, none of us thought Jersey was in play.
00:36:39.000 Right?
00:36:39.000 Jack Kosobic, I'll give him a lot of credit.
00:36:41.000 Jack was one of the guys like, dude, we need to fight.
00:36:44.000 Like, we need to do these programs.
00:36:45.000 We need to have a battle here, especially in the wake of Charlie's tragedy.
00:36:49.000 Like, we need something to get involved with.
00:36:52.000 So the fact that this is even competitive is a very good sign.
00:36:55.000 And the numbers are this: if Jack wins election day, just election day voting, by roughly 300,000, maybe even 290,000, he could still win this race.
00:37:05.000 Like he's in the hunt.
00:37:06.000 And a couple of years ago, you know, four years ago, he won it by just over 200,000.
00:37:10.000 So we just need turnout.
00:37:12.000 The voters are there.
00:37:13.000 Okay, we've done the work with early voting.
00:37:15.000 We have a 5% increase in early voting when you compare this year to four years ago on where the Republicans are.
00:37:22.000 So we've done a lot of that vote by mail and early voting.
00:37:25.000 But right now, we need every Republican in New Jersey to get out there, whether it's one of the 57,000 that have a mailing ballot sitting there that they haven't returned, or if it's Election Day voting, we need you out there.
00:37:38.000 So, and I saw that earlier on social media.
00:37:41.000 There's 57,000 New Jersey Republicans that have a vote by mail ballot sitting somewhere at their home.
00:37:47.000 What are they?
00:37:48.000 If that's you listening right now, what's the instruction?
00:37:51.000 You take that piece of paper and you take it into the polling place, or you go, if you just go into the polling place, you're going to be taken care of?
00:37:58.000 Oh, so it's very specific in New Jersey.
00:37:58.000 Explain.
00:38:01.000 You cannot take it in and try to surrender your ballot.
00:38:03.000 If you do that, you're going to have probably them try to make you vote provisionally.
00:38:07.000 What you should do is fill out the ballot immediately and either go to a Dropbox or go to the county office where you can hand it in.
00:38:14.000 So that is the instruction to those 57,000 folks.
00:38:17.000 Remember, Jack Chitterille only lost New Jersey by 84,000 votes four years ago.
00:38:23.000 Okay, those 57,000 people could be the difference in this election.
00:38:27.000 Take your ballot, fill it out, go hand it in at either a drop location or the actual county office.
00:38:34.000 We need you.
00:38:35.000 The Republic needs you.
00:38:37.000 Yeah, well said.
00:38:38.000 I'm glad.
00:38:39.000 Thank you for being very specific there, Cliff.
00:38:41.000 That's important.
00:38:42.000 Those local rules are important.
00:38:43.000 Let's go ahead and play a cut from Charlie as a little pump-me-up from the RNC in 2024 in Wisconsin, another swing state, 181.
00:38:53.000 America's future is a series of choices.
00:38:57.000 Our current state of slow motion, national decline is a choice.
00:39:06.000 This November, we're going to choose success.
00:39:10.000 We're going to choose to put the future of Americans first.
00:39:16.000 We are going to choose to no longer be spectators this election.
00:39:21.000 We together are going to do the work to save America.
00:39:27.000 I want to play that every single election day going forward.
00:39:32.000 Choose to save America.
00:39:34.000 Make the choices to save America.
00:39:38.000 And that, I mean, guys, think about it.
00:39:40.000 That's going to be Charlie Kirk's last ever RNC speech.
00:39:44.000 And it was a perfect, it was perfect.
00:39:46.000 It was pitch perfect.
00:39:48.000 That's what the mission is.
00:39:51.000 It is not Republican, Democrat.
00:39:52.000 It is, are we saving America or not?
00:39:56.000 And it's just that simple.
00:39:57.000 And Charlie, he didn't have a lot of time up there, a couple of minutes, but he sent it.
00:40:01.000 He gave a full send.
00:40:03.000 And I remember how excited he was that day.
00:40:05.000 You remember that?
00:40:06.000 I remember being in the back room working on the delivery and that part where he goes slow motion, national decline.
00:40:12.000 Like the knife with the ball.
00:40:13.000 And he was like, I'm going to pause a little bit in between.
00:40:15.000 I was like, yeah, hit it.
00:40:17.000 Just perfect.
00:40:18.000 I got to bounce, guys.
00:40:19.000 I'm going to head it over to the show.
00:40:20.000 Jack's got his show coming up in studio.
00:40:22.000 Yep.
00:40:23.000 Our final mission, our final send-off, our call to action is: if you are in New Jersey, get out to the polls.
00:40:29.000 We need you.
00:40:30.000 You can be the difference.
00:40:31.000 You can make the difference in the future of your state.
00:40:34.000 We can take back ground that the left has stolen.
00:40:37.000 You can do this, New Jersey.
00:40:39.000 New York, we need a miracle.
00:40:40.000 We're praying for a miracle.
00:40:42.000 Send Jay Jones packing in Virginia.
00:40:45.000 And in Mesa, we got the recall election.
00:40:48.000 What's her?
00:40:48.000 It's Spillsbury.
00:40:51.000 Spillsbury is the one we want recalled.
00:40:53.000 We want to recall Spillsbury. 1.00
00:40:54.000 Get rid of her. 0.98
00:40:55.000 Spillsbury. 1.00
00:40:56.000 That's what we want.
00:41:00.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.