The Charlie Kirk Show - October 27, 2023


Can We Finally Sue Pfizer? with Dr. Robert Malone and Margot Cleveland


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Dr. Michael Malone joins us to discuss some very interesting vaccine news, is this the opening to finally get some justice? And, Margo Cleveland on a story regarding a cover-up. That's right, a cover up from the FBI regarding Joe Biden.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000 Dr. Malone joins us to discuss some very interesting vaccine news.
00:00:05.000 Is this the opening to finally get some justice?
00:00:08.000 And then Margo Cleveland on a story regarding a cover-up.
00:00:11.000 That's right, a cover-up from the FBI regarding Joe Biden.
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00:01:22.000 Here's a series of breaking stories here we have yet to cover, and it's worth getting into.
00:01:27.000 Joining us now is Margo Cleveland from the Federalist.
00:01:30.000 Margo, thank you so much for taking the time.
00:01:32.000 What is this story here about Grassley's letter revealing 40 informants and massive obstruction?
00:01:38.000 Walk us through it.
00:01:39.000 Sure.
00:01:40.000 So I believe it was Wednesday, Senator Chuck Grassley, who has been for two years investigating evidence of corruption by the Biden family and equally as important, the DOJ and FBI's failure to investigate and obstruction of that investigation.
00:01:58.000 And as you noted, the headline seemed to be that there were as many as 40 investigators or confidential human sources.
00:02:05.000 But I actually think the bigger takeaway is that Senator Grassley revealed that the Foreign Influence Task Force used an assessment that was opened up by an FBI headquarters guy to have the field offices do a search for confidential human sources,
00:02:29.000 documents, reports that had the Biden family name in it, either Joe Biden, Jim Biden, or Hunter Biden.
00:02:37.000 And then they used that and branded it Russian disinformation and in some cases closed those sources.
00:02:47.000 That's a huge story.
00:02:49.000 The Foreign Influence Task Force also interfered in the 2016 election by telling the different social media outlets that there was going to be, they should be on the lookout for this hack and leak story, which is exactly what fed to the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:03:11.000 So there's a lot to it, but really that is the key takeaway to me that the Foreign Influence Task Force was involved in this attempt to close out and to brand foreign disinformation things that were not.
00:03:29.000 So I'm just trying to understand.
00:03:31.000 So this was Obama's FBI that was spying on his vice president.
00:03:36.000 Is that right?
00:03:37.000 Like they were investigating.
00:03:39.000 Oh, so it could have been.
00:03:41.000 We don't know how long ago that this came about, what the time period was.
00:03:48.000 Was it while he was vice president?
00:03:50.000 Was it while he was out of office when it was the first Trump administration?
00:03:56.000 So we don't know what time period it was.
00:03:58.000 And we don't necessarily know that it was spying on Biden himself because the one FD 1023 that Chuck Rassley released that came out, that came about because there was a one-line giveaway in an earlier 1023 that referenced Hunter Biden being on burisma.
00:04:21.000 So there were many legitimate investigations going on to burisma and other Ukrainian businesses.
00:04:29.000 There was one out of Cleveland that dealt with banking.
00:04:33.000 And it's not that they were spying on Biden necessarily, but that there was something that triggered or included the Biden name on it.
00:04:44.000 It could have been Jim Biden.
00:04:45.000 It could have been Joe Biden.
00:04:46.000 It could have been Hunter Biden.
00:04:47.000 It could have been just a reference to businesses that were connected to Hunter Biden.
00:04:53.000 So some of the Chinese businesses that we have evidence that the Biden family received money from.
00:05:00.000 So I wouldn't take it so far to say that they were spying on Joe Biden or even that they were targeting Joe Biden with these confidential human sources.
00:05:09.000 So then somebody in DC received a lot of this information and then an official investigation was stopped or thwarted.
00:05:19.000 Do we know who made that call?
00:05:22.000 Okay, so what we know was, according to the whistleblower, that Brian Ott, who was part of headquarters, FBI headquarters, opened an assessment.
00:05:32.000 And Grassley says, we don't know exactly what went into that assessment, but we do know that it was targeting derogatory information about Hunter and Joe Biden.
00:05:44.000 He opened that assessment.
00:05:47.000 Then we know from Grassley's letter that the Foreign Influence Task Force used that assessment to then go to the field offices to find information and then branded that information wrongly Russian disinformation.
00:06:07.000 We don't know who made that decision, but it looks like it was coming straight from the Foreign Influence Task Force.
00:06:14.000 And so do we know what year that was?
00:06:17.000 So the assessment was opened in August of 2020.
00:06:23.000 So it was right before the election.
00:06:25.000 And one of the points that I made from this is if you look at Grassley's letter in conjunction with Brady and his testimony to the House, what we have is Brady had his team do searches for Burisma and I believe Zavlikowski, who is the head of Burisma.
00:06:51.000 That is what triggered the discovery of this 1023.
00:06:56.000 That happened around June of 2020.
00:07:01.000 The inference that I'm making from that is they knew they were doing this search.
00:07:06.000 FBI headquarters had to approve everything that was being done in Pittsburgh.
00:07:12.000 Once Brady did this search, had the FBI do this search and had this hit that connected to the Bidens, within about a month, all of a sudden you have this other assessment set up in which they then go and do a search with all of the offices, likely much broader terms that were being used.
00:07:34.000 And another reason that inference makes sense is that the FBI and the Foreign Influence Task Force actually tried to brand this information about Hunter Biden and Burisma.
00:07:49.000 And the confidential human source that was re-interviewed in June of 2020, they tried to brand that as Russian disinformation.
00:07:59.000 That was something that we got from the Grassley letter as well.
00:08:03.000 So let's just walk through the sequence here.
00:08:06.000 What we have is Brady is investigating tips.
00:08:10.000 He has the FBI agents search for the name Burisma and I believe the name of the owner.
00:08:18.000 That hits an old 2017 confidential human source report that has one line in there about Hunter Biden.
00:08:27.000 That prompts the Pittsburgh office to have that confidential human source re-interviewed.
00:08:33.000 That happened on June 30th, 2020.
00:08:37.000 In that re-interview, the confidential human source expanded on that and said, well, yeah, this is what happened.
00:08:44.000 He met with Hunter.
00:08:47.000 This was to protect Burisma.
00:08:49.000 This was to fire the prosecutor.
00:08:52.000 When that happened, within about a month, you now have FBI headquarters who knew everything Brady was doing, open an assessment, search for derogatory information on the Bidens, and then through the Foreign Influence Task Force, brand the information coming in as Russian disinformation.
00:09:17.000 So there could have been another report on one of the Chinese companies that Hunter Biden dealt with that had nothing to do necessarily with the Bidens, but that had information that matched up to all of the other evidence of Biden family corruption.
00:09:37.000 So, I mean, how many people do you think potentially were involved in the cover-up?
00:09:41.000 One, 10, 50?
00:09:43.000 How widespread was this?
00:09:46.000 I would guess that we're talking about 10 to 20 people who were involved in this.
00:09:51.000 I don't think the very high ups in the FBI knew.
00:09:54.000 One of the things Brady said was that the high ups in DOJ and FBI had his back when he needed it.
00:10:01.000 So I would say it's lower than that, but I would say that the Foreign Influence Task Force, that there is probably a large group in that segment that was involved.
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00:11:12.000 So just to summarize this, more than three dozen informants made claims against the Biden family to the FBI in a period going all the way back to his vice presidential days.
00:11:22.000 The FBI central offices deliberately ignored these claims, often telling regional offices to do nothing when they thought there was a lead.
00:11:31.000 The FBI dismissed credible allegations as foreign disinformation, just like they did with the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:11:37.000 And more recently, we know that DOJ pressured the IRS to not bring charges, especially with the Treasury Department foreign action reports that were coming through with wire transfers.
00:11:48.000 Margo, but you don't believe the top levels of the FBI were involved.
00:11:52.000 Tell us why.
00:11:53.000 I do not think Chris Ray was involved.
00:11:56.000 I don't know below him what they were, but Chris Ray strikes me as a company man who has a great reputation, who has no idea what the inmates are doing in the asylum.
00:12:08.000 And I've called for him to be hauled up for an impeachment inquiry numerous times.
00:12:13.000 And now I think we've way past that point, given the involvement of the foreign influence task force, a task force he created.
00:12:23.000 I think he's the wrong guy for the job.
00:12:25.000 I don't think he knew what was going on.
00:12:27.000 But at this point, he does.
00:12:30.000 And his leadership can't continue.
00:12:33.000 But I think there's a difference between someone being a weak leader, someone not familiar with what's going on, and someone like James Comey, who I think he was involved in what was happening to take Trump down.
00:12:47.000 So then Republicans are now tasked with oversight.
00:12:51.000 What is the best way to get the complete picture here if you were to give advice to House Republicans?
00:12:56.000 Well, Grassley's letter listed, I think, 25 names that they should call in front of the committee and have questioned.
00:13:05.000 I think that that is a great place to start.
00:13:08.000 Again, I'd also say we need to do an impeachment inquiry on Ray, and we need to stop pussyfooting around and letting them hide and saying, oh, we're not giving you that information.
00:13:19.000 They had a chance to take the evidence against the Biden family and run it to the ground.
00:13:25.000 They didn't do it.
00:13:27.000 All of that is now properly before the House.
00:13:30.000 And that's half of it.
00:13:32.000 We have half of it, what the Biden family did and was not investigated.
00:13:36.000 And the second half is what the DOJ and the FBI did to not investigate, to cover up, to obstruct the investigations.
00:13:45.000 Both of those are things before the House.
00:13:47.000 And the best way to do it is to bring those 25 witnesses in, get an impeachment inquiry against Ray, against Garland, and start getting the documents and the questions answered through subpoena and contempt if necessary.
00:14:03.000 Yeah, some people in our audience will find it hard to believe, though, Margo, that Christopher Ray didn't know that it was going on.
00:14:10.000 And so is it just that you believe that he is just kind of MIA, too much time in the Adirondacks type deal?
00:14:20.000 I think that, and I'm basing this on his reputation and from people that I trust who speak of his reputation, that I don't see him being involved in the way Comey was.
00:14:34.000 I see him as the front man who's just not the right guy for this job.
00:14:40.000 But he knows it now.
00:14:42.000 Whether he knew it then doesn't matter.
00:14:44.000 At this point, he should be shutting down the Foreign Influence Task Force and he should be investigating and finding out what happened with this.
00:14:53.000 Maybe he is.
00:14:55.000 I doubt it, though.
00:14:56.000 Margo Cleveland, thank you so much.
00:14:58.000 We'll have you on soon.
00:14:58.000 Thank you very much.
00:14:59.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:15:00.000 I want to play a piece of Jesse Waters here, summarizing some of that.
00:15:04.000 We'll play 140, then 141, play 140.
00:15:06.000 Senator Chuck Grassley just announced that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has had 40 informants inside the Biden family for the last 15 years.
00:15:19.000 Grassley says FBI headquarters deliberately smeared criminal information coming from FBI informants about the Biden family as foreign disinformation, when in fact, after an exhaustive examination, there's never been any information that any of this has been foreign.
00:15:41.000 And then 141, please.
00:15:43.000 The FBI used Biden to get revenge on Trump.
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00:17:14.000 A couple things.
00:17:15.000 Their spokesperson came out and said ground forces are expanding their operations tonight.
00:17:20.000 But more specifically, Israeli military spokesman says we call on the residents of Gaza City to immediately move south as air bombardments and internet and electricity have been further cut into Gaza.
00:17:30.000 We'll keep a close eye on this.
00:17:32.000 Again, that could be just kind of ruminations bluster.
00:17:35.000 We've kind of heard similar chatter, but it looks like it looks like an invasion is imminent.
00:17:39.000 Joining us now is one of my favorite guests, Dr. Robert Malone.
00:17:42.000 Doctor, thank you so much for taking the time.
00:17:44.000 You know, Doctor, I recently was in Walgreens buying some over-the-counter medication for my allergies, and I was shocked.
00:17:51.000 People still wait in line to get the COVID vaccine.
00:17:54.000 That was interesting to see actually people want it.
00:17:57.000 I guess vaccination rates are down significantly, but there's some news that I want you to walk us through.
00:18:04.000 Adulteration, I think I said that right, of pseudo-mRNA vaccines.
00:18:09.000 What is it and why should you care, Dr. Malone?
00:18:12.000 That's right.
00:18:13.000 Thou shalt not commit adulteration would be the key watchword for the FDA.
00:18:19.000 It's actually in their original congressional charter.
00:18:23.000 And adulteration is basically any contamination in a drug or a food product or a medical device that is not defined on the label.
00:18:34.000 So just to give you a ridiculous example, if you're eating food and they're, you know, some prepared food product and there's a certain amount of rat feces, well, that would be okay if it says on the label contains less than 0.01% rat feces.
00:18:56.000 I'm being a little facetious, but actually that goes back to the original charter of the FDA, which had to do with a lot of the things that happened in the Chicago slaughterhouse industry.
00:19:08.000 Remember, it's food and drugs.
00:19:10.000 So in the case of drugs, anything that is in the product that is not previously disclosed as a contaminant is an adulterant.
00:19:21.000 That's the origin of the term.
00:19:23.000 It's a technical term.
00:19:25.000 And what this is all about, and a lot of people are really getting quite spun up over this.
00:19:32.000 And this is not programmable nanobots that are going to change your mind or any of those other kind of conspiracy things that have been floated.
00:19:42.000 This is real.
00:19:43.000 There's two high-end DNA sequencing labs that have demonstrated, one in the United States and one in Canada, have demonstrated the presence of significant amounts of short fragments of DNA.
00:19:58.000 And this comes from the manufacturing process that's being used for these RNA vaccines.
00:20:04.000 And these short DNAs are being included in the RNA vaccine code, you know, pseudo RNA, pseudo-vaccine formulations so that the DNA fragments are being delivered to the cells in your body.
00:20:22.000 Well, so does that matter or not?
00:20:25.000 These short DNA fragments up to 200 bases or more are pretty much, if I wanted to design an experiment to cause mutations in your genome, this is what I would do.
00:20:38.000 So this is being done apparently without the knowledge or awareness of the FDA, the European Medicines Agency, Health Canada, et cetera.
00:20:48.000 They were not aware that there was this level of contamination.
00:20:53.000 And they're scrambling right now, largely in denial and coming up with various excuses.
00:21:01.000 And in particular, one of the preparations, the Pfizer BioINTEC preparation, has some of those DNA fragments that contain parts of a virus called SV40.
00:21:15.000 And many people are quite alarmed about that because SV40 is associated with cancer, solid tumor, solid sarcomas, so solid tumor cancers.
00:21:26.000 And it was contaminating the early Sabin vaccine products.
00:21:33.000 This is not full-length SV40, and it does not include the part of SV40 that causes the most cancer, which is the large T antigen.
00:21:42.000 So anybody that's aware of this, I want to put your mind to rest about that.
00:21:47.000 That's been a little bit overplayed.
00:21:50.000 But the presence of the short DNA fragments that can be delivered into the cells of your body, and as we know from the early documents, will go to the ovaries, represents a true risk or alteration of genome integrity.
00:22:09.000 In other words, affecting the integrity of your genes, of your DNA.
00:22:14.000 And if it goes to ovary, then that has implications potentially for birth defects.
00:22:19.000 So those are real problems, and they absolutely merit more careful investigation of risk.
00:22:28.000 But in the meantime, adulteration meets the criteria for something which would normally cause a hold to be placed on a product.
00:22:37.000 And if that product is not withdrawn voluntarily from the shelves by the manufacturer, then it can be seized.
00:22:45.000 This also appears to meet the criteria for fraud in that some of these things were hidden from the FDA, apparently.
00:22:54.000 That's what the data suggests in the information.
00:22:56.000 And if fraud has occurred, then the bail of indemnification, that means the liability protection that the manufacturers have enjoyed, courtesy of our government, would be the technical term is pierced.
00:23:11.000 And so people potentially could then sue the manufacturers for a variety of things, including damages that they might have received from the vaccine.
00:23:24.000 So that's why this matters.
00:23:26.000 So what is the likelihood?
00:23:28.000 Because the law that Ronald Reagan put into effect in 87 or whatever basically indemnified all of the vaccine manufacturers and they created the various vaccine adverse events pool, right?
00:23:42.000 So that all those get figured out.
00:23:45.000 Is that open up now a fraud case?
00:23:48.000 Is that the difference now?
00:23:51.000 That's what a lot of folks are getting excited about.
00:23:54.000 Werner Mendenthal, who's one of the lead attorneys in this space, believes that this will pierce the veil of indemnification.
00:24:02.000 And you're correct in pointing out, Charlie, that was the initial indemnification legislation.
00:24:09.000 But then there's been two others since then that have to do with pandemic preparedness.
00:24:15.000 And so they're kind of stacked on top of each other.
00:24:17.000 And they build quite a substantial wall for the attorneys.
00:24:22.000 But it appears if the data and the current documentation is correct that people are able to access, it appears that Pfizer and Moderna have not been open and transparent about this issue with the FDA.
00:24:39.000 And then that would overcome the objection that has been forwarded by Pfizer's lawyers, which is essentially we didn't commit fraud.
00:24:49.000 We delivered the fraud the government ordered us or purchased from us.
00:24:54.000 And that has been a problem up till now.
00:24:57.000 Have you seen any evidence that the vaccine manufacturers are nervous?
00:25:01.000 So I understand the excitement on the side of people that want justice, but have you seen any anxiety from the actual manufacturers of these products themselves?
00:25:10.000 Deflection, paranoia, preemptive defense.
00:25:16.000 What I have seen, I think deflection is a good phrase. 0.59
00:25:20.000 There is a statement from Pfizer that is obfuscational.
00:25:25.000 In other words, they're trying to kind of cover this up a little bit and say, well, we really did sort of tell the FDA.
00:25:32.000 We didn't point these things out to them, but there was some information in our documentation about this, especially about the SB40 sequences.
00:25:41.000 They appear to have deleted the designation on the plasmid map that they provided to the FDA that said SB40 sequences and pointed those out, which would normally be present in any plasmid map.
00:25:55.000 That appears to have somehow been scrubbed.
00:25:58.000 But then they're saying, well, we did give the FDA the sequences.
00:26:01.000 And if they didn't run it through their own mapping program, then it's their bad just because we didn't tell them and point them out, point out to them where the problem was.
00:26:11.000 So there seems to be at least Pfizer communications, but I haven't tracked them back to the source document.
00:26:20.000 But there's indications that Pfizer is currently trying to make the case that, well, this really isn't that bad.
00:26:30.000 We sort of told the FDA, not completely, but sort of.
00:26:33.000 And so what?
00:26:35.000 And Pfizer's stock is down 32% this year, and they're running aggressive advertising right now to try to increase vaccination rates.
00:26:45.000 So if adulteration is in fact true, which is an if, then would they be obligated to remove this product from the market, which would be one of the most embarrassing retreats in the history of a product ever pushed, in the history of the species, quite honestly.
00:27:03.000 Yeah, so I've discussed this extensively, including the other day with Joe Latipo, Dr. Joe Latipo, the Surgeon General of the state of Florida.
00:27:14.000 In that private conversation, my sense was that he was completely convinced this met the criteria for adulteration.
00:27:21.000 Most experts that have looked at this concur that this does appear to be adulteration.
00:27:27.000 And now we're down to arguing about the fine details of levels of acceptable DNA contamination, which is really spurious because this is a very different situation.
00:27:40.000 These particles will deliver the DNA.
00:27:43.000 It's not like regular DNA contamination.
00:27:46.000 So not only is Pfizer market cap down, but also BioNTech and Moderna, and that's a substantial slide.
00:27:56.000 And my sense is that there's many people that have looked at this that have expertise, have concluded that this does meet criteria of adulteration.
00:28:10.000 And if so, that triggers a very structured process.
00:28:15.000 And it's kind of a separate group in FDA that handles these kinds of complaints.
00:28:20.000 So it's almost like an ombudsman's office.
00:28:22.000 They're outside of the Center for Drugs and the Center for Biologics.
00:28:26.000 So Peter Marx isn't in the chain of command for this.
00:28:30.000 And so potentially, if these data are appropriately submitted to this parallel group within FDA, they will have to act.
00:28:40.000 They will have to make a decision.
00:28:42.000 And one of the problems here is that the FDA is on both sides of the table.
00:28:49.000 And so if they don't take action, then I think it is within the purview of state's attorney generals to see the product.
00:28:57.000 Okay.
00:28:57.000 Yeah, the attorneys general is a really interesting wrinkle.
00:29:00.000 Let's talk about that because that's where there's a lot of power in red states, but they've been lackluster.
00:29:05.000 He's a chance in the step up.
00:29:08.000 What's the most important part of the story that you think is not being mentioned?
00:29:11.000 You want to build out, Dr. Malone?
00:29:13.000 Most important story, part of the story here for all of your listeners is, but they already know the answer.
00:29:21.000 Don't, you know, if you've taken one, don't take two.
00:29:24.000 If you've taken two, don't take three.
00:29:26.000 If you've taken three, don't take four.
00:29:28.000 The data have come in from all over the world that the multiply vaccinated or inoculated are the ones at highest risk for becoming diseased with SARS-CoV-2.
00:29:39.000 It's called negative effectiveness.
00:29:41.000 And now we have another reason to think twice about taking this, something that you can share with your colleagues who perhaps are still in the narrative, which is that these products are delivering short fragments of DNA into your body, and they will cause genetic changes.
00:30:02.000 And this may be one of the drivers behind the, quote, turbo cancers that we're seeing arise.
00:30:09.000 There's two categories of late onset adverse events that doctors all over the world are concerned about.
00:30:17.000 One of them is autoimmune diseases.
00:30:19.000 That seems to be surging right now in the post-inoculated.
00:30:23.000 And the other one is these very aggressive cancers, particularly leukemias and lymphomas.
00:30:29.000 And those are types of cancers that are easily provoked by things which could cause damage to the genome of those stem cells that give rise to those blood cells.
00:30:41.000 And so it now appears that we have a whole new mechanism, one which was not considered by all of the regulatory authorities all over the world.
00:30:52.000 And the risk associated with that of this DNA contamination appears to have been largely hidden by the pharmaceutical manufacturers.
00:31:03.000 And absolutely, there's evidence that Pfizer, which has this anomalous simian virus 40 sequence, in those DNA fragments.
00:31:13.000 This is not the whole simian virus 40, but it's fragments of some of those DNAs that are also contaminating the Pfizer vaccine products.
00:31:25.000 So this gives rise to potential risks for cancer and potential risks for yeah.
00:31:32.000 Let me just ask you really quick, Dr. Malone.
00:31:34.000 Some people are afraid of shedding.
00:31:37.000 Is that a serious threat for a non-vaccinated individual to receive SV40 via shedding?
00:31:44.000 And then just more broadly about shedding.
00:31:45.000 No, so this is not simian virus 40.
00:31:48.000 Again, I want to emphasize that.
00:31:50.000 This is small DNA fragments from its origin of replication and a promoter enhancer.
00:31:57.000 This is a genetic switch derived from that, but it doesn't have the main bad actor from SV40, which is the large T antigen.
00:32:05.000 Is shedding a risk is a super important question, one which should have been answered by the FDA, but they avoided having that answer required because they classified these as vaccine products, not gene therapy products.
00:32:21.000 And so I can't give anybody, and I get this question all the time, I can't give anybody a direct answer because we don't have the data.
00:32:31.000 We do know that these products are shed in breast milk, and therefore it is reasonably likely that they may also be shed in sweat.
00:32:40.000 And that's kind of as much as we have documentation for about the shedding problem.
00:32:45.000 So Dr. Malone, in closing, are you optimistic that we're getting closer to some form of justice here?
00:32:52.000 Because an injustice was perpetrated on the species.
00:32:56.000 I am cautiously optimistic that this may be a breakthrough.
00:33:02.000 It is a hot, evolving topic.
00:33:05.000 I know it's a little bit wonky, but in the domain where I exist and those that work on DNA sequencing and characterization and pharmaceuticals, this is a big story.
00:33:18.000 And it appears, according to many of the lawyers in this area, that it may well get us over that barrier, that boundary that allows lawsuits to start happening.
00:33:29.000 Yeah, look, I'm no fan of trial lawyers, but I certainly hope that they get deployed on this.
00:33:34.000 If there's one time I'm going to be cheering for the trial lawyer lobby, this will be the time.
00:33:39.000 Go, go, all-you-can-eat buffet, guys.
00:33:43.000 Go after Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson.
00:33:49.000 I think trial lawyers have largely made America way like overly cautious, risk-averse, increasingly litigious, expensive.
00:33:59.000 But honestly, trial lawyers could end up doing a really good thing for humanity.
00:34:06.000 Well, and this is this is a yeah, this is this is another argument in favor of overturning the chevron deference.
00:34:14.000 Yes, no, that's right.
00:34:16.000 Absolutely needs to be done.
00:34:18.000 Dr. Malone, thank you.
00:34:19.000 God bless you.
00:34:22.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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