The Charlie Kirk Show - February 22, 2023


Can We Sue the Vax Traffickers? with Robert Barnes, Warner Mendenhall, and James Roguski


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00:00:01.000 How do you sue the vaccine manufacturers?
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00:01:08.000 Okay, so let me kind of set this up.
00:01:11.000 There are a lot of people that have been harmed because of the MRNA gene altering shot called a vaccine.
00:01:24.000 But when you have a lot of people harmed, how do you then pursue justice?
00:01:32.000 How are you then able to remedy that?
00:01:35.000 Well, typically, you're able to go through the courts.
00:01:38.000 That's why the courts exist to be able to resolve civil matters, to be able to figure out if somebody was wronged and then be able to get a remedy.
00:01:52.000 Well, joining us now is Robert Barnes, a constitutional attorney who is here to explain a new effort, as well as Warner Mendenhall from the Mendenhall Law Group.
00:02:04.000 Robert and Warner, welcome to the program.
00:02:07.000 Glad to be here.
00:02:08.000 And glad to be here.
00:02:09.000 Thank you.
00:02:10.000 So, Robert, we'll start with you.
00:02:12.000 Robert, thank you for taking the time.
00:02:13.000 I'm an admirer of yours.
00:02:14.000 You're very clear on constitutional matters.
00:02:17.000 Tell us about your upcoming event in Atlanta, and then tell us about this journey that you are on to be able to represent people that were significantly harmed by the vaccine.
00:02:29.000 Absolutely.
00:02:30.000 So, you know, Werner helped put together the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation conference that's going to take place in Atlanta towards the end of March.
00:02:38.000 The goal is to bring a lot of lawyers together that are in this space to discuss what options and alternatives exist for those that want to be able to get remedy for the various injuries being caused by this vaccine.
00:02:52.000 As the vaccine adverse event reporting system designed by Congress to monitor and measure potential adverse effects from a vaccine, it has set records with this vaccine.
00:03:03.000 I mean, you're talking about 10x, 30x, 100x ratios of injury compared to prior vaccines.
00:03:09.000 And in fact, this vaccine has caused more injuries than all of the vaccines that have ever been recorded and reported by the VARES data since VARES inception, you know, almost three decades ago.
00:03:21.000 So that's excited for the conference.
00:03:23.000 Looking forward to that.
00:03:24.000 Credit to Steve Kirsch and others who are helping found the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation and to put forward remedies that could be available and put together the people that could help bring those remedies to come about within the legal system.
00:03:37.000 Currently, the Brooke Jackson case is the major case that could bring remedy.
00:03:43.000 Brooke Jackson is a whistleblower who brought a claim on behalf of the American people through the United States of America.
00:03:50.000 This is called the Key TAM Actions or False Claims Act claims.
00:03:54.000 Warner's been doing those for many decades.
00:03:56.000 I've been a part of them on and off for several decades.
00:03:59.000 Brooke Jackson is someone who is a sincere clinical trial person who helped make sure drugs were done in a manner that would produce safe and effective drugs.
00:04:08.000 She was part of and witnessed what was taking place at the very critical stage three of the clinical trials concerning Pfizer in Texas.
00:04:17.000 And what she witnessed shocked and horrified her.
00:04:20.000 Basically, if there was any rule you could violate, Pfizer did.
00:04:23.000 If there was any regulation you could ignore, Pfizer did.
00:04:26.000 If there was any metric or measurement of data that needed to be honestly and accurately reported, it was falsified or fabricated or otherwise doctored to mislead the government and mislead the American people, ultimately, into believing this was a safe, effective vaccine when it was not safe, it was not effective, and it was not even a vaccine.
00:04:46.000 She's brought her claim on behalf of the American people because Pfizer obtained billions of dollars from the government based on these lies that they told.
00:04:56.000 Their contract required they comply with the FDA rules and requirements.
00:05:00.000 Their contract required they deliver a safe, effective vaccine that would, in quote, in the exact words of the contract under Trump's Operation Warp Speed, provide a drug that would prevent COVID infection.
00:05:12.000 Of course, we now know it did no such thing.
00:05:15.000 They lied.
00:05:16.000 Now, their excuse is that the Biden administration is in cahoots with Pfizer, and so the case shouldn't be allowed to move forward on behalf of the American people because they say that as long as the Biden administration is in cahoots with them, they shouldn't be held responsible or accountable for their dangerous lies that have disabled and killed tens of thousands, maybe even millions of people around the world as we gather data.
00:05:40.000 Her case is scheduled for oral argument in Beaumont, Texas on March the 1st.
00:05:46.000 So, Warner, taking a step back here, something I'm curious about: aren't the vaccine companies basically protected or indemnified through an act of Congress in the 1980s?
00:05:58.000 Basically, don't all the cases just get put into the vaccine injury recovery fund, excuse my lack of precision on the language, but isn't there a taxpayer-funded pool of money to solve this?
00:06:10.000 What makes your legal complaints to be able to navigate that?
00:06:15.000 Well, I mean, there is a taxpayer pool of funding, but it's minuscule and it hasn't worked ever since it was put into place.
00:06:24.000 So, it's clearly not a useful tool for people.
00:06:28.000 Not that they shouldn't try to do it.
00:06:30.000 I think more productively, and we've seen this in the court cases, and we're going to be working through this.
00:06:36.000 Our core challenges to the fact that this shot really is not like any quote-unquote vaccine that we've ever seen.
00:06:43.000 There's no neutralizing immunity.
00:06:46.000 In fact, it seems as you get more boosters, recent studies show that you are more likely to contract COVID or other diseases.
00:06:54.000 So, this is not a vaccine in any traditional sense.
00:06:58.000 There is a case out there.
00:06:59.000 It's actually called the Griner case, not to be confused with Brittany Griner.
00:07:03.000 But Dr. Griner brought a lawsuit about the definition of vaccine.
00:07:07.000 So, we need to go back to these definitional issues, challenge them, fight these through the courts, and get this thing classified as something other than a vaccine, because really it's a biological product.
00:07:20.000 Second, we do need to look at the PrEP Act and the immunity that was put forth by the PrEP Act.
00:07:20.000 That's first.
00:07:28.000 We think that that has violated the traditional police powers of the states and the cities in this country.
00:07:36.000 So, these are core ideas and core issues that have really changed the functioning of our country.
00:07:44.000 And then, finally, at a bigger level, we need to look at what the WHO is doing and make sure that we're not losing sovereignty through international treaties and agreements.
00:07:53.000 So just really quick, let me just make sure I understand that the technical definition of a vaccine versus a biological or a treatment is actually very important here, right?
00:08:07.000 Because if the pharmaceutical companies are able to convince a judge or a jury that this is a vaccine, then it would fall under the federal government protections.
00:08:16.000 Is that right?
00:08:18.000 Correct.
00:08:19.000 And so, Robert, do you have a thought on that?
00:08:19.000 Okay.
00:08:22.000 Yeah, so it's two-fold component.
00:08:24.000 One is, did they misrepresent, like the advantage of the False Claims Act is it's outside of those immunity claims.
00:08:32.000 So if you lie to the government to get money, then you can, this came about after the Civil War because so many contractors provided, you know, bad blankets, bad food, bad boots, you name it.
00:08:43.000 And the government was off, some of the government agents and bureaucrats were in on it.
00:08:47.000 And so Congress said, we got to fix this.
00:08:49.000 We got to allow the ordinary American, if they know information about this, to bring a claim on behalf of the American people without regard to the American government if somebody lied to get money from the government or the people's taxpayers.
00:09:00.000 And here, that's what happened.
00:09:01.000 Pfizer lied.
00:09:02.000 And one of the things Pfizer lied about, the contract said you must deliver a product that will prevent COVID infection.
00:09:08.000 That's the traditional historical medical definition of a vaccine.
00:09:13.000 You prevent infection.
00:09:14.000 You prevent transmission.
00:09:15.000 This didn't do that because it wasn't a vaccine.
00:09:18.000 They got the FDA.
00:09:19.000 You know, so hard, but they'll just say in court, it just was a bad vaccine.
00:09:22.000 That doesn't mean it's not a vaccine, though, right?
00:09:24.000 That's what...
00:09:25.000 Not in this context.
00:09:26.000 If I was Pfizer's lawyer, that would just say.
00:09:28.000 So sorry, please continue.
00:09:30.000 Well, basically what the Pfizer did is they said, you know, the FDA redefined vaccine, so it's all okay.
00:09:30.000 Oh, yeah.
00:09:35.000 But that's not what Trump's Defense Department required.
00:09:37.000 They said, deliver us a product that will prevent COVID infection.
00:09:40.000 They went out and told kids and parents, this is a vaccine.
00:09:43.000 It's not.
00:09:44.000 It doesn't inoculate against anything.
00:09:46.000 It's a gene therapy.
00:09:47.000 That's all it is.
00:09:48.000 Less about the ability to prevent infection.
00:09:48.000 Right.
00:09:52.000 Because if I was Pfizer's lawyer, they'd say, well, just because it didn't do exactly what we wanted it to didn't mean it's not the thing that you're saying it is.
00:09:58.000 But the final argument you just made as a gene therapy, now I think we're getting into the crux of it because it actually isn't the same as the polio vaccine I had when I was a kid or the MMR vaccine.
00:10:11.000 It actually is a whole different type of thing.
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00:11:32.000 Just a reminder, your conference is coming up.
00:11:34.000 Just remind our audience about the conference.
00:11:36.000 Warner, you first.
00:11:39.000 March 25th and 26th in Atlanta.
00:11:42.000 We're trying to get attorneys together to really spread the word about the types of litigation that can be pursued and what we can do to help rebuild this country through legislation and litigation.
00:11:53.000 So, for either of you, you guys can jump in here.
00:11:55.000 But from what I understand, the crux of this entire legal challenge is whether or not the protections that the vaccine companies received because of the bill that was passed into law in the 80s applies to mRNA technology.
00:12:12.000 Is that basically correct?
00:12:14.000 Oh, yeah, I was going to say that in terms of Brooks' case, it's outside of that.
00:12:17.000 For Brooks' case, it's all about did Pfizer lie?
00:12:20.000 Did Pfizer know that it wasn't safe?
00:12:22.000 Did Pfizer know it wasn't effective?
00:12:24.000 Did Pfizer know it didn't prevent infection?
00:12:26.000 Did Pfizer know that they were doctoring data?
00:12:30.000 Did Pfizer doctor data?
00:12:32.000 I mean, it was so bad.
00:12:33.000 If you walked into a Pfizer clinical trial, you could see needles sticking out of bags and you could see people's medical records plastered on the wall.
00:12:41.000 The janitor could figure out, you know, who has what disease.
00:12:44.000 It's supposed to be a placebo blind test.
00:12:46.000 It wasn't blind.
00:12:47.000 Everybody knew who was getting what because it was unblinded.
00:12:50.000 All the things that were required by the Defense Department were not performed by Pfizer.
00:12:55.000 And their excuse is solely, the Biden administration is with us.
00:12:58.000 So, judge, don't allow any discovery.
00:13:00.000 Don't allow the case to go forward.
00:13:02.000 We'll find out at the oral argument March 1st where that's going to go.
00:13:05.000 In terms of challenging for injuries, that is the trickier part.
00:13:10.000 And Warner can speak to some of the difficulties and hurdles we have about getting remedy for people that have been injured by this vaccine.
00:13:17.000 Yeah, please, Warner.
00:13:18.000 Yeah, certainly it's important to establish that there's fraud at the beginning of all this with the clinical trials, not just for Pfizer, by the way, but for other companies that were out there.
00:13:29.000 They all are using similar clinical trial processes, and those clinical trial processes are horribly corrupted at this point in the way our system is running them.
00:13:40.000 More difficult, as Robert says, is that we have now got millions of people who've been injured by these shots and at least hundreds of thousands dead just in our country.
00:13:52.000 So we need to strip away this idea that this is a vaccine in the first place so that the liability can be opened up.
00:14:01.000 And we need to strip away the protections of the PrEP Act.
00:14:05.000 So those are longer-term efforts, but they are really necessary to engage in.
00:14:10.000 The second thing that I think can happen, we need our politicians to wake up to what needs to happen there.
00:14:17.000 Just like with the sexual abuse cases, we need to open this back up.
00:14:21.000 There's been an abuse of the population here, and we need to extend the statute's limitations so these families can get some recovery for the loved ones that they have lost and the loved ones that they are having to care for due to injuries right now.
00:14:34.000 So those are the pathways.
00:14:37.000 It's not easy, but it is going to take the people of this country taking back their power and moving their politicians in the right direction.
00:14:46.000 I can imagine that Pfizer and these vaccine manufacturers are going to throw everything they possibly can at you guys.
00:14:52.000 How many active lawsuits are there against these vaccine manufacturers right now?
00:14:59.000 Just be at a ballpark.
00:15:01.000 Well, right now, the only big whistleblower claim is Brooke Taxon's claim.
00:15:05.000 That's why they've attacked her repeatedly in the court.
00:15:07.000 They've attacked me personally repeatedly in the court.
00:15:10.000 They've induced the court to talk about tweets and things like that because their goal has been a campaign of distraction, of the attack the lawyer, attack the whistleblower, attack everybody except deal with the truth.
00:15:25.000 They've been obsessed with not allowing any discovery in the case.
00:15:28.000 If Pfizer is so innocent, why are they so scared of a little discovery?
00:15:32.000 It's a sign of guilt.
00:15:33.000 I mean, Pfizer is one of the most criminally fined drug dealers in the history of the world.
00:15:39.000 I mean, they make El Chapo look like a corner street drug dealer by comparison.
00:15:43.000 Nobody kills people and disables people as much as Pfizer does.
00:15:47.000 And we have the criminal fines to prove it.
00:15:50.000 And this has probably been their worst violation of human rights and Americans' rights in the history of America in terms of public health.
00:15:58.000 And the question is: are we going to get remedy?
00:16:00.000 Are the courts going to continue to be closed?
00:16:02.000 Are they continuing to help cover up Pfizer's crimes?
00:16:05.000 Or will they help expose those crimes?
00:16:07.000 The same with if the courts are closed, will Congress step up to the gap and fix the laws?
00:16:12.000 We shouldn't, you know, we have the childhood immunization laws from the 80s, we have the PrEP Act from the early 2000s.
00:16:18.000 These are bad laws.
00:16:20.000 These laws, whenever you create a situation where a drug company has nothing to lose from lying to the American people and pushing a drug on them because they're completely immune, they have guaranteed profits and no liability risk.
00:16:34.000 That's a bad combination for public health.
00:16:36.000 And Americans are seeing the consequence.
00:16:39.000 Kids like Maddie DeGray are seeing the consequences.
00:16:41.000 People are being disabled and killed all across the world because of this.
00:16:45.000 So we need to put a stop to it.
00:16:47.000 And it's time for some of our politicians.
00:16:49.000 And I hope some of the ones that just got elected, like Senator Vance, start taking the lead to change this once and for all.
00:16:55.000 Warner and Robert, best of luck.
00:16:57.000 We're here to help you guys.
00:16:57.000 God bless you.
00:16:58.000 Thank you.
00:16:59.000 Thank you so much.
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00:17:40.000 Joining us now is James Roguski, who is doing some phenomenal research on stopping the WHO.
00:17:48.000 You could check it out at stopthewho.com.
00:17:51.000 That is stopthewho.com.
00:17:53.000 James, welcome back to the program.
00:17:54.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:17:56.000 It's very timely because a lot of things are going on with the WHO.
00:17:59.000 Tell us what's going on with the WHO right now.
00:18:01.000 Well, right now, this week, they are having week-long meetings with the working group to consider amendments to the international health regulations.
00:18:11.000 What's going on outside in the media world is everybody's talking about something else.
00:18:18.000 They're talking about the proposed pandemic treaty, which they will be having meetings with a different group next week.
00:18:26.000 The Intergovernmental Negotiating Body will be talking about the proposed treaty next week.
00:18:31.000 And what I've been seeing in the media is just a lot of information.
00:18:35.000 So there are documents that are readily available on the WHO website.
00:18:42.000 I put that in the chat.
00:18:43.000 Hopefully, you can share that with your viewers.
00:18:47.000 They have endless pages after pages after pages of proposed amendments to existing regulations from about 90 different nations.
00:19:00.000 And so they're discussing these things right now.
00:19:03.000 Some of the meetings have been in private.
00:19:05.000 Some of them have been public.
00:19:07.000 And essentially, what's happening these next two weeks is they are somehow transitioning from collecting proposals for the amendments in the treaty and then shifting towards negotiating.
00:19:22.000 And so at this moment in time, our negotiators are, I do not believe, legally certified to be even involved in negotiating these changes to the regulations.
00:19:37.000 And we, the people, have certainly not been consulted as to whether or not we even want any of this to be happening.
00:19:45.000 And so arguably, this is a global coup where nations around the world are trying to transfer their sovereignty, their control, their authority over to the WHO.
00:20:01.000 And as a consequence of that, if the World Health Assembly were to adopt those changes, it would drag all of the members of the WHO along with it.
00:20:11.000 And I think ultimately the best answer is to exit the WHO because it's become an abusive relationship that wants to take control of every aspect of health by changing regulations where our silence would be viewed as consent.
00:20:29.000 So thank you for giving me a voice to speak.
00:20:31.000 Yes, is it true that they are avoiding the term treaty because then that would circumvent Senate authorization or oversight?
00:20:43.000 Well, that's complicated.
00:20:45.000 So let me make sure that there's two separate things that people are aware of.
00:20:49.000 There are two completely separate paths that are being negotiated in the World Health Constitution, World Health Organization's Constitution.
00:21:01.000 In Article 19 and 20, they talk about a convention or an agreement.
00:21:06.000 In Articles 21 and 22, they talk about other international instruments.
00:21:13.000 In our Constitution, people are familiar with a treaty.
00:21:18.000 All you really need to know are two things, right?
00:21:21.000 We've, our nation, the United States, have been brought into tens of thousands of international entanglements with the simple signature of a president.
00:21:32.000 Biden signed the Paris Climate Accords.
00:21:35.000 I'm sorry, Obama signed the Paris Climate Accords.
00:21:39.000 Trump signed us out of it.
00:21:41.000 Biden signed us back in.
00:21:43.000 So the concept of a treaty is a novel idea that's unique to the United States.
00:21:50.000 And the founding fathers, you know, clarity over 250 years or so has just been shredded.
00:21:57.000 We are involved in many agreements that do not meet their requirements.
00:22:04.000 One last thing, if I may.
00:22:06.000 Last year, Biden proposed amendments to the existing regulations.
00:22:12.000 They were kicked to the curb, but a totally separate collection of amendments to five articles were submitted by a group of nations, including the United States.
00:22:24.000 They were adopted last year.
00:22:28.000 And that's all it took.
00:22:29.000 There was no presidential signature.
00:22:32.000 There was no Senate confirmation.
00:22:35.000 So all of the evidence anybody needs is what happened last year.
00:22:38.000 They amended the regulations last year.
00:22:42.000 And that's all that needed to be done was they just adopted it.
00:22:45.000 So let me ask you, James, where are they meeting?
00:22:48.000 And does the United States have a person that has a role that is technically working in the group, part of the working community?
00:22:57.000 Who is our liaison to this meeting?
00:23:02.000 Again, there's two separate groups.
00:23:04.000 So this week is the working group for the international health regulations.
00:23:09.000 And Colin McGiff, MCIFF, is actually a vice chairperson of the working group itself.
00:23:19.000 The United States sends a delegation of like 50 people.
00:23:22.000 So there are many, many, many other people involved.
00:23:25.000 But generally, the chief delegate is Javier Becera, the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
00:23:30.000 Now, next week, in the intergovernmental negotiating body about what everybody just calls the pandemic treaty, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, a couple of months ago, named Pamela Hamamoto as the ambassador to take charge of the negotiations for the quote-unquote pandemic treaty.
00:23:56.000 And so, different groups, different negotiations, somewhat different people.
00:24:00.000 There's a lot of overlap.
00:24:02.000 Here's what my concern is: many, many nations, especially the European Union, have proposed a global digital health certificate.
00:24:14.000 The European Union has 27 nations.
00:24:16.000 Indonesia, Russia, Armenia, and a handful of other nations have put forth proposals to essentially implement a Chinese-style track and trace.
00:24:26.000 You have to have a QR code, a vaccine certificate, a prophylaxis certificate, a testing certificate, a passenger locator form, a recovery certificate.
00:24:36.000 That's really what I believe they want.
00:24:39.000 And that is not discussed in the discussions about the treaty.
00:24:44.000 I think that's a bit of a decoy out there.
00:24:46.000 These proposed amendments for this tracking and tracing digital health certificate are in the discussions about the proposed amendments.
00:24:55.000 Are they meeting mostly by Zoom right now, or is there a physical meeting that is happening?
00:24:59.000 It's a mixed meeting.
00:25:00.000 There are plenty of people in the plenary hall at the Palace of Nations in Geneva.
00:25:05.000 Okay.
00:25:06.000 Some people dial it in via Zoom.
00:25:09.000 And so if you were to rank like a threat assessment analysis, what do you think warrants the most concern and focus and energy of all the things that they're discussing right now at the WHO?
00:25:09.000 Okay.
00:25:25.000 They have a lot of crazy things that you can't ignore.
00:25:30.000 But I think ultimately, if we're able to stop them from putting us in a digital prison, that stops a lot of what they want to do.
00:25:41.000 And so I've also put together a page called rejectdigitalenslavement.com.
00:25:48.000 And this is something that they have been pushing for and pushing for.
00:25:52.000 And Europe, especially, many of the people and the nations there are starting to become comfortable with the idea that you have to have a QR code.
00:26:01.000 Now, it doesn't mean you have to have a phone.
00:26:03.000 You can have a printed QR code.
00:26:05.000 But while people in the United States are very familiar with their Second Amendment rights and their First Amendment rights, we're talking here about Fourth and Tenth Amendment.
00:26:16.000 The Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect your right to privacy.
00:26:21.000 And the mistake that almost everybody makes if they ever go to the doctor or hospital or clinic is they sign in and they check the box that essentially gives all of your data and allows the hospital to share it with the world.
00:26:34.000 That's, I would say, a mistake.
00:26:37.000 Don't do that.
00:26:38.000 Come with your own paperwork controlling your own data.
00:26:42.000 The 10th Amendment, back in May last year, Louisiana, God bless them, the Assembly agreed to a resolution that, in my own words, you know, paraphrasing, said to the WHO: you don't have authority over the state of Louisiana.
00:27:00.000 Any health changes would have to go through a referendum where the people of Louisiana would approve it.
00:27:08.000 Even on page 61 of the international health regulations right now, when the U.S. agreed to the changes that happened in 2005, the mission to Geneva, when they agreed to what those changes were, said very clearly, well, we're a federal government.
00:27:27.000 We can't control health in the states.
00:27:31.000 This is really a state's rights issue.
00:27:34.000 So every individual person in every state in the country has to get on their assembly and their state legislature to stand up for the fact that the federal government does not have any authority to tell people in any given state what they can or cannot do in regards to health.
00:27:56.000 And there have been a handful of states who have stood up for that state's rights issue.
00:28:01.000 So the meetings... goes on for a couple days right now.
00:28:06.000 And all week.
00:28:08.000 You're up to like 4 a.m., right?
00:28:09.000 You watch the whole thing.
00:28:10.000 You're a citizen journalist consuming all of this.
00:28:14.000 They actually are doing it in Geneva, so it kind of starts at midnight and runs all through the night.
00:28:18.000 And they've given me a break because some of the meetings are closed.
00:28:22.000 Some of them are being done in secret.
00:28:24.000 And probably what is likely to occur is at some point, they're going to shift to negotiation mode.
00:28:34.000 And there's a part of me that can understand that when you're in serious negotiations with multiple nations, that's not the kind of thing that you want to broadcast publicly.
00:28:45.000 You want people to be able to speak freely.
00:28:47.000 But the different nations are all tugging the World Health Organization apart at the seams.
00:28:54.000 Gimme, gimme, gimme.
00:28:55.000 This nation wants this.
00:28:56.000 This nation wants that.
00:28:57.000 The United States has proposals.
00:28:59.000 The EU, Africa, Indonesia, Japan, everybody.
00:29:04.000 It's a soap opera, Charlie.
00:29:07.000 I want to thank you for your tenacity on this.
00:29:09.000 It's incredibly important.
00:29:10.000 And as you learn things, you can come right on this program.
00:29:13.000 The websites again for action items?
00:29:16.000 The easiest thing to remember, I think, is stoptheglobalagenda.com.
00:29:22.000 All the information is there.
00:29:23.000 And I give everybody my phone number, Charlie.
00:29:25.000 Don't be scared when I do this on live radio.
00:29:27.000 I do it all the time.
00:29:29.000 My phone number is 310-619-3055.
00:29:34.000 Every day, twice a day, I do a Zoom meeting at 3 and 10 p.m. Eastern Time, and everybody's invited to attend.
00:29:41.000 Very good.
00:29:42.000 James, thank you so much.
00:29:43.000 Thank you.
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00:30:56.000 It's so confusing to remember the rules.
00:31:01.000 One of the characteristics of a tyrannical regime is the rules are constantly changing.
00:31:07.000 And I can't even remember all the rules of what you're allowed to say and not allowed to say.
00:31:11.000 And that is why political correctness is inherently tyrannical.
00:31:15.000 So Don Laman is a gay black man.
00:31:19.000 And that actually does matter in this instance because he thinks he's invincible.
00:31:24.000 He thinks he's allowed to say whatever he wants.
00:31:25.000 So he doesn't really watch his words very closely or carefully.
00:31:31.000 So, Don Lamont is on the rarely watched morning show of CNN.
00:31:35.000 And so many people were outraged about what he said.
00:31:38.000 He shouldn't have said it.
00:31:39.000 It was definitely sloppy and honestly really kind of cruel to say around two women.
00:31:43.000 But did it deserve the outrage it received?
00:31:45.000 Absolutely not.
00:31:46.000 Let's listen to the whole clip here: PlayCut 51.
00:31:49.000 This whole talk about age makes me uncomfortable.
00:31:52.000 I think that I think it's the wrong road to go down.
00:31:54.000 She says, People, you know, politicians or something are not in their prime.
00:31:57.000 Nikki Haley isn't in her prime.
00:31:59.000 Sorry.
00:32:00.000 A woman is considered to be in her prime in her 20s and 30s and maybe 40s.
00:32:03.000 What do you talk about?
00:32:04.000 Wait.
00:32:04.000 That's not according to me.
00:32:06.000 Prime for what?
00:32:07.000 It depends.
00:32:08.000 It's just like prime.
00:32:09.000 If you look it up, if you Google when is a woman in her prime, it'll say 20s, 30s, and 40s.
00:32:14.000 I don't know.
00:32:15.000 I got it in the middle.
00:32:16.000 I'm not saying I agree with that.
00:32:17.000 So I think she has to be careful about saying that politicians aren't in their prime.
00:32:22.000 We need to qualify.
00:32:23.000 Are you talking about prime for like child aboring?
00:32:25.000 Or are you talking about the momentum?
00:32:26.000 What is the president?
00:32:28.000 The facts are Google at everybody at home.
00:32:30.000 When is a woman in her prime?
00:32:32.000 It says 20s, 30s, and 40s.
00:32:33.000 And I'm just saying, Nikki Haley should be careful about saying that politicians are not in their prime and they need to be in their prime when they serve because she wouldn't be in her prime according to Google or whatever it is.
00:32:48.000 You have not seen a retreat so vivid since the Nazis invaded France and they run into the hills.
00:32:57.000 Don Lamond was trying everything he possibly could to wave a white flag.
00:33:02.000 Oh my goodness.
00:33:03.000 He knew he messed up about 20 seconds into that.
00:33:06.000 He was like, whoa, oh, did I just say that?
00:33:08.000 See, you see, he thought he had a cloak of invincibility because he's a gay black man.
00:33:13.000 So he thinks a lot of say, just Google it.
00:33:16.000 Women are no longer in their prime.
00:33:18.000 I mean, look, that's not a, first of all, it's not true.
00:33:21.000 And it's not a, it's not really being kind to your two female anchors or co-hosts to kind of connect it to Nikki Haley.
00:33:29.000 It's also just bad commentary.
00:33:30.000 It really doesn't make a lot of sense at all, to be perfectly honest with you.
00:33:34.000 But I will say this, though, Don Lamond and the reaction he received, I think, was unwarranted.
00:33:39.000 I think you should have said, okay, that was stupid.
00:33:41.000 Don't say that.
00:33:42.000 Clarify.
00:33:43.000 And by the way, he even backpedaled people say dumb things all the time to kind of put them in the strange penalty box and to make a big deal out of it.
00:33:50.000 I don't think was the right response.
00:33:51.000 But I will say the backlash that he received was rather perplexing to me because it does beg a question.
00:33:59.000 Do we now care about protecting women?
00:34:02.000 Is that now a stated goal of the media that women can't be insulted?
00:34:07.000 That women can't be talked down to?
00:34:10.000 I agree with that.
00:34:12.000 But then why do we allow men into female locker rooms to expose their private parts?
00:34:17.000 So we must protect women from mean, gay, black news hosts, but not men in their locker rooms or in their bathrooms.
00:34:25.000 Help me understand that one.
00:34:28.000 No, it's because there were some very sensitive women in the CNN staffing room, certainly in the CNN HR department, and obviously on the CNN set that got really triggered and offended.
00:34:43.000 They probably didn't like Don anyway, and this probably brought it over the edge.
00:34:48.000 And now Don is like groveling and he wants his job back and he goes, has to go through formal training following sexist comments and all this sort of nonsense.
00:34:57.000 And however, what's interesting, though, is that, okay, so the media is really, so you're allowed, so teenage girls with men in their bathroom, perfectly fine, but you can't attack women that are getting older.
00:35:10.000 That's interesting.
00:35:12.000 So I'm just trying to understand the rules because it's ever-changing, which again is a sign you're living in a tyrannical, politically correct country.
00:35:20.000 But how often are you allowed to go on television and engage in the tired trope that men are stupid?
00:35:27.000 Men are pigs.
00:35:29.000 Men forget their car keys.
00:35:30.000 Men don't know where they're going.
00:35:32.000 I mean, from commercials to family guy to Simpsons to how many pop cultural narratives have this trope of the suburban, usually white, overweight father who's a clumsy, bubbling idiot who's forgetful, drinks too much beer, and falls asleep on the couch.
00:35:52.000 That's perfectly fine.
00:35:54.000 If Don Lamond would have been like, you know, Donald Trump is no longer in his prime because men tend to lose their mind as they get older.
00:36:01.000 They'll be like, oh, that's hilarious.
00:36:03.000 That's totally true.
00:36:04.000 Men do.
00:36:05.000 And you know what?
00:36:06.000 They're probably lazy and dumb.
00:36:08.000 And then we'll be back more with CNN Morning Show.
00:36:11.000 But you say something insensitive towards women, the whole world loses its mind.
00:36:19.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:21.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:24.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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