The Charlie Kirk Show - May 16, 2023


Can We Take Away Chris Wray's Plane? with Devin Nunes and Julie Kelly


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Devin Nunez joins us to react to the Durham Report, and then Julie Kelly with some breaking news about Marjorie Taylor Green. Thank you for those that support us and keep our show strong and being able to speak our minds freely.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tanthan the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Devin Nunez joins us to react to the Durham Report and then Julie Kelly with some breaking news.
00:00:06.000 A la Marjorie Taylor Green.
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00:00:49.000 We go.
00:00:50.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:51.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:53.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:57.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:00.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:01.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:02.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:01:04.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:01:09.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:01:11.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:32.000 Joining us now is Devin Nunez, who is the head of Truth Social.
00:01:36.000 And Devin deserves a lot of credit.
00:01:37.000 He's a great American patriot.
00:01:39.000 And Devin, I'll be honest, last hour I was talking about how bitter I am over this entire report.
00:01:45.000 Now, Devin, prove me wrong or tell me where I am incorrect.
00:01:49.000 The Durham report felt like the Nunez report five years later with a couple more citations.
00:01:54.000 I didn't really learn very much.
00:01:56.000 You really did the tough work, and you were the former chair of House Intel.
00:02:00.000 Let's go to Cut 43.
00:02:01.000 Adam Schiff insisting multiple times that he had direct evidence of Trump-Russian collusion, play Cut 43.
00:02:08.000 But you admit it's a circumstance.
00:02:13.000 Actually, no, Chuck.
00:02:14.000 I can tell you that the case is more than that.
00:02:17.000 And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.
00:02:22.000 So again, I think you have seen direct evidence of collusion.
00:02:28.000 I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation.
00:02:37.000 So that is what we ought to do. 0.97
00:02:40.000 He's a liar, and he very well might be a senator from California. 0.92
00:02:43.000 Well, so let me read some emails that we've received here, freedom at charliekirk.com. 0.98
00:02:48.000 You know, some people say, Charlie, let me go this one.
00:02:50.000 Charlie, I'm disgusted with our justice system.
00:02:53.000 How can anybody have good things to say about it?
00:02:55.000 And the left gets to do whatever they want, no consequences for their actions.
00:02:59.000 The next election is to be fixed, just like the last one.
00:03:01.000 No one will believe in fair elections anymore.
00:03:03.000 What I see in this country is becoming every communist country.
00:03:05.000 Now, let me say, I don't know if this is intentional or deliberate, but the angrier we get, justified by the way, righteous indignation, they think they can provoke us to uncharacteristic violent action.
00:03:19.000 Do not take the bait.
00:03:21.000 Look at how much we've been derailed because of the misrepresentation of what happened on January 6th.
00:03:27.000 A lot of people are emailing us, Charlie, I have no faith in all this, and I get it.
00:03:31.000 They want you to become cynical.
00:03:33.000 Remember Yuri Bezmanov.
00:03:36.000 Yuri Bezmanov, the Soviet spy who professionally tried to take down Western governments for communism.
00:03:43.000 What did he say was the critical phase?
00:03:47.000 What is the critical phase that a functioning country has to go through?
00:03:52.000 Demoralization.
00:03:54.000 I'll be honest, I'm there today.
00:03:56.000 I'm not going to stay there because, you know, we're a positive show.
00:04:00.000 We're going to talk about solutions.
00:04:01.000 But at times, you have to go through the process of being honest and saying, boy, this is some pretty bad news.
00:04:07.000 When you have, I just want to make sure you understand.
00:04:10.000 This is not just Peter Struckstroke Smirk going and committing arson.
00:04:15.000 It's not just Tim going and stealing a car.
00:04:18.000 It's not just an individual thing of action.
00:04:21.000 This is using a trusted place of authority of our domestic police force.
00:04:27.000 Not just Tim, by the way, it's James Comey, Andy McCabe, the whole cabal, the whole cartel, because they didn't like Donald Trump.
00:04:35.000 And what's the check and balance?
00:04:36.000 Are any of them going to go to jail?
00:04:38.000 I mean, are they going to be held accountable?
00:04:40.000 Of course not.
00:04:40.000 No, the answer is they get promoted.
00:04:43.000 And Hillary Clinton is very involved in this, by the way. 1.00
00:04:45.000 Hillary Clinton should be rotting in jail right now, but she's not.
00:04:49.000 Thankfully, Hillary Clinton's not president, and make no mistake, that's why they got to go after Trump. 1.00
00:04:53.000 Do not underestimate the resentment people have for Donald Trump defeating the old hag Hillary Clinton. 1.00
00:04:58.000 Play cut 39, Hillary Clinton lying. 1.00
00:05:02.000 She's a liar. 1.00
00:05:04.000 She's one of the most evil people in American public life. 1.00
00:05:06.000 Play cut 39. 0.91
00:05:08.000 I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president.
00:05:11.000 He knows.
00:05:12.000 He knows that there were a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out the way it did.
00:05:19.000 And I take responsibility for those parts of it that I should.
00:05:22.000 But Jane, it was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado.
00:05:33.000 And so I know that he knows that this wasn't on the level.
00:05:37.000 I don't know that we'll ever know everything that happened, but clearly we know a lot and are learning more every day.
00:05:42.000 And history will probably sort it all out.
00:05:45.000 So of course he's obsessed with me.
00:05:47.000 And I believe that it's a guilty conscience.
00:05:52.000 And then here's CBS.
00:05:53.000 I mean, CBS, look, they finally admit the truth, but these are all just small moral victories.
00:05:58.000 Justice, according to Aristotle, is the messiest of all the virtues, but it's necessary.
00:06:03.000 You cannot have a society without justice.
00:06:07.000 How do you describe justice in the classical sense?
00:06:10.000 To every man, to what they are due, to what they are owed, to what they have earned.
00:06:16.000 There's no justice here.
00:06:17.000 This is a mass injustice.
00:06:19.000 And they feel as if they get away with it.
00:06:22.000 Play cut 29, CBS finally admitting the truth.
00:06:25.000 Play cut 29.
00:06:26.000 After nearly four years of investigation, special counsel John Durham found the FBI lacked actual evidence to investigate then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign in 2016.
00:06:37.000 Durham said the Bureau was too reliant on investigative leads provided or funded by Trump's political opponents.
00:06:44.000 The FBI expanded its original probe known as Crossfire Hurricane based partly on information from Christopher Steele.
00:06:51.000 Steele, a former British spy, put together a research dossier alleging possible misconduct between then-candidate Trump and Russia.
00:06:59.000 Durham found investigators did not and could not corroborate any of the substantive allegations contained in the Steele reporting.
00:07:08.000 Devin, you deserve great credit.
00:07:10.000 Am I incorrect in saying that we learned very little from the Durham book report and most of the work was the work that you and Cash did five years ago, repurposed with a couple citations.
00:07:19.000 Devin, your thoughts?
00:07:20.000 Well, look, I think that's exactly right.
00:07:22.000 You know, back in, we knew this in 2017.
00:07:25.000 I always like to say that when Mueller walked through the door with his pit bull, Andrew Weissman, they knew there was no evidence of Russian collusion because they had none.
00:07:33.000 They would have provided it to us already who were conducting an investigation, Charlie.
00:07:38.000 And why do I say I know that?
00:07:40.000 Well, they would have had every single bit of reason to give us everything they had in early 2017, right when Trump is becoming president, right after he fires Comey.
00:07:54.000 Why not give us all the evidence?
00:07:56.000 And so, you know, we had been watching this for a long time and we knew there was no evidence of Russian collusion, you know, even just in my experience dealing with Russia, you know, for many, many years before that.
00:08:08.000 Fast forward, it took us only about six, eight months to put together what was called then the newness memo that we actually launched around the 1st of February 2018.
00:08:18.000 And that clearly laid out everything.
00:08:20.000 I think the only thing that we learned through his investigation is that it really dialed it in on just the people at the top, the only new names, and maybe I'm forgetting a couple, but it was really the Alpha Bake scam that went on from Georgia Tech, Jaffe, a guy named Jaffe, Dan Chenko, who was their phony Russian that was just a former Brookings Institution guy, and then the Clinton campaign operative, Dolan.
00:08:47.000 Now, the worst part with all this is I think no one can understand why he wasn't able to bring a conspiracy charge.
00:08:53.000 I think that's the frustrating part because against these DOJ and FBI rogue officials.
00:08:58.000 So, Devon, these people get away with it.
00:09:01.000 We could talk about the ramifications and the implications of it.
00:09:04.000 I mean, this is a total crime against the country.
00:09:07.000 If you want to talk about insurrection or seditious conspiracy, this is seditious conspiracy much more than a bunch of, you know, wannabe Rambos with backpacks going into the Capitol on January 6th. 0.72
00:09:18.000 Give me a break.
00:09:18.000 This is seditious conspiracy.
00:09:20.000 When the guys with the badges commit the crimes, they need to go to jail.
00:09:23.000 But that hasn't happened in quite some time.
00:09:25.000 So, Devin, what can the House Republicans do?
00:09:28.000 We've talked about this idea of fencing off the money.
00:09:32.000 I mean, the debt ceiling fight.
00:09:34.000 I mean, what is it?
00:09:36.000 We have the House of Representatives.
00:09:37.000 Are we going to see any spending cuts?
00:09:38.000 Can we take Christopher Ray's Gulf Stream away from him so he can't go to the Adirondacks at will in the midst of a Senate?
00:09:44.000 I mean, I'm not kidding in the sense of what can we do to make these cockroaches feel the pain?
00:09:50.000 What can we legislatively do?
00:09:53.000 You know, what I would start with is exposing the cockroaches.
00:09:58.000 You're right that the House has the power of the purse working with the Senate, but the Democrats are never going to go for that.
00:10:04.000 You know, and plus, you know, there's just a lot more exposure that has to be done because you still have half of America that probably still believes that Trump and Republicans have something to do with Russia, believe it or not.
00:10:16.000 You know, maybe this week you aired that report from Catherine Herrge at CBS News.
00:10:21.000 It'll be interesting to see here over the course of the next week or so how, you know, have, you know, have we got it down to like 40%?
00:10:28.000 Because, you know, it was running at 50% of Americans believe that Trump and Republicans had something to do with Russia, Charlie. 0.83
00:10:34.000 Now, that's why I say I'll use your term, the cockroaches.
00:10:38.000 You know, I know that Jim Jordan, the Republicans have this weaponization of government committee.
00:10:43.000 I don't know if there needs to be a special committee or subset of that, but all of these people need to be brought before Congress and publicly exposed.
00:10:54.000 But first, what I would do is I would first go after subpoena everything that they have, all of their bank records, everybody they've been paid for the last few years, and do depositions with all of them.
00:11:05.000 Everybody that Durham names, the Congress should bring them in for private depositions and then basically catch them lying to Congress.
00:11:15.000 Because for some odd reason, Durham didn't bring what seemed to be very easy charges, which would have been lying to Congress.
00:11:23.000 I mean, we know Brennan lied to Congress.
00:11:24.000 I mean, there's several others that lied to Congress.
00:11:27.000 And so I think that's what you do is you hold a whole set of hearings again, expose this publicly.
00:11:33.000 Remember, we didn't do too bad back in 17 and 18 when we had the majority when I was chairman. 0.94
00:11:39.000 It became much more difficult when you had a scumbag like Adam Schiff in there as the chair. 0.95
00:11:43.000 He was able to bury everything. 0.99
00:11:45.000 And of course, they, you know, remember they tried to make the Moeller report come to life and all of that nonsense.
00:11:50.000 So I think that's where my recommendation would be to start there, which would be to bring all these people in, throw out the subpoenas.
00:11:58.000 You know, you got to get a good group.
00:11:59.000 It doesn't need to be a very large committee and even could be people from the outside, but a very strong committee with good investigators that are going to dive down into everything that Durham has.
00:12:10.000 And you never know.
00:12:11.000 You know, Durham and some of his investigators might be very supportive of this process.
00:12:18.000 So, Devin, is there anything to the fencing off the funding?
00:12:22.000 Is that just some sort of abstract wish item?
00:12:24.000 I mean, you know it better than I do.
00:12:27.000 You were a total winner in the House.
00:12:29.000 Yeah, Charlie, I mean, look, it's a tool, but in order to get that done, you still need a Senate approval and you need a signature by Biden.
00:12:40.000 So you can fence off money.
00:12:41.000 You can make a bunch of noise about it, but actually cutting off the money so Ray doesn't get his jet, I think it's going to be difficult to do.
00:12:49.000 But that's why, look, I would put, I know it's, I know people don't like to hear this, but really sunlight is the best disinfectant.
00:12:59.000 It's the number one thing they can do right now.
00:13:01.000 And look, we're a year and a half away to the presidential election.
00:13:05.000 If they could shine a lot of light on this for the next six to eight months, I think it would really help President Trump and the Republicans right this wrong to show all these people who have led America through this nightmare.
00:13:19.000 They need to be exposed.
00:13:21.000 And all the Republicans need to get on the same page.
00:13:23.000 I mean, I'm actually, look, I get it.
00:13:25.000 You know, there's other people that want to run for president.
00:13:27.000 That's fine.
00:13:27.000 It's their right to do.
00:13:29.000 But I'm a little bit shocked at some of the candidates that are out there running and even some of my former colleagues, especially in the Senate, who are not today coming out and say, look, we may not like Trump, but this is wrong.
00:13:43.000 This was an attack on our democracy.
00:13:45.000 This was an attack on the Republican Party.
00:13:51.000 We're out of time, but I'm curious, though.
00:13:53.000 Just curious.
00:13:54.000 Has Ron DeSantis issued a statement?
00:13:56.000 Because DeSantis was very, very good on Mueller.
00:13:58.000 Remember, that was one of his things.
00:14:00.000 I'm curious.
00:14:01.000 I don't know either way.
00:14:02.000 Let's look to see if Ron DeSantis has issued a statement about this.
00:14:05.000 I'm curious.
00:14:06.000 If not, it's a missed opportunity.
00:14:07.000 Devin, we're out of time.
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00:15:07.000 Joining us now is Julie Kelly.
00:15:09.000 She has a very important article out.
00:15:10.000 There's a couple of topics I want to talk about.
00:15:12.000 But first, it is from Am Greatness. 0.63
00:15:14.000 Taylor Green submits impeachment articles against D.C. U.S. attorney.
00:15:18.000 Julie, welcome back to the program.
00:15:19.000 Tell us about this story.
00:15:21.000 So the House Oversight Committee just wrapped up its hearing about crime problems in Washington, D.C. One of the witnesses was Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, who is handling all of the January 6th criminal prosecutions, a caseload that is now over 1,000 defendants, and he has promised to charge 1,000 more before he's all done.
00:15:43.000 At the same time, Charlie, as you know, Washington, D.C. has descended into violent chaos.
00:15:49.000 And there are reports, crime data that indicates Matthew Graves, while he fixates on a four-hour disturbance more than 28 months ago, has declined to prosecute almost two-thirds of the cases that are brought to him by local D.C. police.
00:16:08.000 And this includes violent repeat offenders.
00:16:11.000 who Matthew Graves refuses to prosecute for one reason or the other, as he all of his resources basically are monopolized by prosecuting, investigating, charging, and trying January 6th protesters.
00:16:28.000 So what is the process then of impeachment?
00:16:31.000 I mean, when we think of impeachment, we usually think of a president, not of a D.C. U.S. attorney.
00:16:37.000 What does the process of that look like?
00:16:40.000 So Marjorie Taylor Green introduced these articles of impeachment.
00:16:44.000 I believe they're the first articles of impeachment against any Biden official, which Matthew Graves is.
00:16:51.000 He was appointed by Joe Biden and confirmed by the Senate in November of 2021.
00:16:56.000 So this is part of their oversight capabilities.
00:17:00.000 And so I believe now that those articles have been submitted, it will now be referred to the House Judiciary Committee, where we will see what Chairman Jim Jordan has to do.
00:17:11.000 We'll proceed with those.
00:17:14.000 But look, the double standard of justice in the Justice Department right now runs directly through Matthew Graves' office.
00:17:23.000 What he's doing right now is a selective political prosecution to criminalize political dissent to punish Americans who protested Joe Biden's election on January 6th.
00:17:35.000 He is bringing outrageous charges recommending excessive prison sentences.
00:17:41.000 Representative Andy Biggs today confronted him about wanting 14 years in prison for a man named Thomas Caldwell, a man with no criminal record who is a decorated and disabled Navy veteran.
00:17:54.000 He's almost 70 years old.
00:17:55.000 He was found guilty of one obstruction count and one tampering with evidence.
00:18:00.000 And Matthew Graves wants Thomas Caldwell to die in jail.
00:18:03.000 Well, at the same time, Matthew Graves, who handles both local and federal crimes in D.C., this is a very unique position, is letting criminals off the hook run rampant in his own city.
00:18:15.000 So this is the sort of hypocrisy disparity that Americans are fed up with when it comes to our criminal justice system, and especially this Department of Justice being so highly weaponized.
00:18:28.000 As of course, we just was confirmed again in the Durham report that was released yesterday.
00:18:35.000 So, you know, it's important for our audience to know this.
00:18:38.000 One of the ways that influence is exerted is through spouses.
00:18:42.000 And, you know, this is an attack baseless, by the way, that they tried to go towards Clarence Thomas on.
00:18:48.000 But meanwhile, Matthew Graves' wife runs this racket.
00:18:51.000 I mean, I'm looking to this website, Julie, and I mean, it's a $100 million organization that almost no one's ever heard of.
00:18:58.000 I mean, it's the National Woman's Law Center.
00:19:00.000 I mean, we were just marveling in the break of just how much money that some of these groups have.
00:19:09.000 We've never heard of them before, right?
00:19:10.000 By the way, we have one of the clips up on the screen of their Twitter account.
00:19:13.000 Abortion Always is one of their things. 0.99
00:19:15.000 Then they have another, this is, again, Matthew Graves' wife runs this racket.
00:19:20.000 Just Let Kids Play is another one of their initiatives, which is all about having trans kids play.
00:19:24.000 It's just, it's amazing.
00:19:25.000 Julie, tell us about this connection.
00:19:28.000 Is there a conflict of interest?
00:19:30.000 Why is this important to know?
00:19:32.000 I think there definitely is a conflict of interest. 0.57
00:19:34.000 Look, she's the CEO and president of this very well-funded nonprofit.
00:19:40.000 This group is working hand in glove with people like Senator Whitehouse and other activist groups who are demanding the resignation of Clarence Thomas.
00:19:50.000 This group is behind the smear campaign against Clarence Thomas and his wife.
00:19:56.000 So, how can you have the chief prosecutor who we're supposed to believe, right, justice is blind and he's treating people, suspects and defendants all the same when we know that he's not, have his wife, who is such an outspoken activist trying to remove a sitting U.S. Supreme Court justice, working with Democrats in Congress to do that and create this smear campaign against him.
00:20:26.000 She also has choice words and has about Donald Trump and his supporters.
00:20:32.000 She referred to white women, suggested that white women who voted for Donald Trump in 2020, people like me, are racists and are only supporting a systemically white racist system in America.
00:20:46.000 This is the sort of thing that she has said and her activism role.
00:20:51.000 So it's very hard then for people, and they shouldn't believe that there's no conflict there.
00:20:57.000 If we're going to start talking about spouses like they want to about Clarence Thomas and attack Ginny Thomas, then everyone's spouse should be fair game.
00:21:05.000 And unfortunately, Charlie, in the committee today, no Republican brought this up to Matthew Graves, asked about his objectivity when his wife is such an outspoken, well-funded activist trying to take down a sitting U.S. Supreme Court justice.
00:21:22.000 So he's a U.S. attorney, and I asked you this in the break.
00:21:26.000 Is he responsible for investigating the Dobbs leak or is that something else?
00:21:30.000 I mean, DOJ was supposed to be doing something with that, correct?
00:21:33.000 I believe so.
00:21:35.000 I don't know who actually investigates the leak, but any criminal referral would go to Matthew Graves because he prosecutes federal crimes in Washington, D.C.
00:21:46.000 So any sort of leak, I would assume, would be a federal crime.
00:21:50.000 And so it naturally would go to his office.
00:21:54.000 So, and look, this should also be the office who would be investigating anything that Hunter Biden did when he was in Washington, D.C., say any FARA foreign lobbying, foreign lobbying violations.
00:22:08.000 This is also something that Matthew Graves would be investigating.
00:22:12.000 So he took a lot of heat today for his high declination rate, meaning number of times the percentage that he declines these cases that are referred to him by local police of 67%.
00:22:24.000 But there was very little heat put on Matthew Graves for his selective and political prosecution of January 6th or so.
00:22:32.000 I applaud Marjorie Taylor Greene for bringing these articles of impeachment because it should open up a further conversation about how Matthew Graves is handling the most powerful and politically charged U.S. Attorney's Office in the country.
00:22:48.000 Let's play cut 45, Marjorie Taylor Greene on this topic, play cut 45.
00:22:54.000 The time for weaponizing the Department of Justice needs to come to an end.
00:23:00.000 And because you refuse to prosecute real criminals that are violating all the crimes here in Washington, D.C., and you want to talk about D.C. residents, they are victims of your abuse of power.
00:23:12.000 And because of that, I am introducing articles of impeachment on you, Mr. Graves, and I yield back the remainder of my time.
00:23:22.000 So is Matthew Graves, was Matthew Graves in charge of potentially indicting people that were illegally protesting outside of Supreme Court justice's homes?
00:23:32.000 That would have been in the D.C. jurisdiction, right?
00:23:34.000 The reason I ask is his wife was probably the ones that were actually organizing those protests.
00:23:39.000 I mean, think about it.
00:23:40.000 His wife might have been organizing the protests.
00:23:42.000 You look at her, you look at her website.
00:23:45.000 It's unbelievable.
00:23:46.000 I mean, it's, I've never seen this.
00:23:49.000 This one thing.
00:23:50.000 Here's what it says.
00:23:51.000 It says abortion is totally safe is one of their things.
00:23:54.000 It's just amazing.
00:23:55.000 So was Matthew Graves responsible for that?
00:23:58.000 Only if the justice lives in Washington, D.C.
00:24:02.000 I don't know if there's any Supreme Court justice.
00:24:04.000 Certainly we know that Brett Kavanaugh does not, John Roberts.
00:24:07.000 I believe that they live in Maryland, maybe Virginia.
00:24:11.000 So he would not have jurisdiction.
00:24:13.000 That would be the local, well, I believe U.S. Marshals who are given sort of a stand down order by Attorney General Merrick Garland to not prosecute those, that crime, which is a far worse crime than most of the January 6ers are getting parading the Capitol. 0.89
00:24:31.000 I don't think anyone outside of the man who was arrested for attempting or planning to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, I don't think any of these protesters who clearly are trying to influence Supreme Court policy, whether it's votes or whether it is bullying John Roberts into conducting an investigation into Clarence Thomas, this clearly is an influence campaign.
00:24:54.000 And if these protesters outside, and we know that that's what they're doing, we can see the signage, one corrupt judge, investigate Clarence Thomas, resign, Clarence Thomas, remove him from the court, et cetera.
00:25:06.000 That is to influence what the court is doing.
00:25:09.000 That is against the law, and that is what no one has been prosecuted for.
00:25:14.000 Matthew Graves certainly wouldn't be responsible for that.
00:25:17.000 But we know that his wife, the team of Goss Graves, is very deeply involved in encouraging these protests and overall demands for Clarence Thomas to resign.
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00:26:46.000 Julie, how should we think about Durham?
00:26:48.000 I am bitter.
00:26:49.000 I'm cynical.
00:26:50.000 I'm upset.
00:26:51.000 I've lost complete hope in the Washington, D.C. regime.
00:26:55.000 My attitude is, hey, everybody, get your own life in order.
00:26:58.000 Stop thinking that somebody's going to come in and parachute in and justice will be delivered.
00:27:03.000 It is dead in the country.
00:27:04.000 Julie, am I being overly cynical, overly negative with that attitude?
00:27:08.000 No, I think that's how a lot of us felt yesterday.
00:27:11.000 You know, it's one thing to see the Durham Report and confirm what we've known and what we've reported on.
00:27:17.000 But the frustration is knowing that they all got away with it.
00:27:20.000 They will continue to get away with it.
00:27:23.000 And the January 6th issue is just an extension.
00:27:25.000 It was accelerated after DOJ and FBI and these agencies got away with it.
00:27:30.000 But I will tell you, watching this House Oversight Committee with a few exceptions, Andy Biggs and Marjorie Taylor Greene refusing to go directly at the January 6th prosecutor, the face of a continued reckless, unaccountable political Department of Justice.
00:27:48.000 Their failure to go directly at Graves and not one person threatened to cut off funds to his office.
00:27:55.000 Where's the power of the purse?
00:27:57.000 I mean, we don't need more subpoenas.
00:27:59.000 We don't want John Durham.
00:28:01.000 Cut off the funding.
00:28:03.000 Shut down the Washington Field office.
00:28:05.000 Shut down the...
00:28:06.000 I agree.
00:28:06.000 I mean, how many more subpoenas?
00:28:09.000 With all due respect to another guest that came on the program, I think we got a good picture of what's going on here.
00:28:14.000 I mean, we don't need more evidence that we live in an open-air police state run by a crime syndicate called the FBI.
00:28:22.000 I mean, how many more citations?
00:28:24.000 If you have 300 citations or 600 citations, at some point it becomes rather repetitive.
00:28:30.000 But Julie, entertain me in this way.
00:28:33.000 I think Republicans are afraid of the FBI.
00:28:36.000 I think they're afraid that they might one day get indicted, that they might get a knock on the door, that they might be spied on, that maybe their little foreign thing that they've done might be exposed.
00:28:45.000 I think Republicans live in fear that they don't want to poke the bear that might have killed Kennedy.
00:28:52.000 What do you think?
00:28:54.000 They're definitely afraid of the FBI.
00:28:56.000 They're afraid of the Department of Justice.
00:28:58.000 They're afraid of Matthew Graves, which we saw today, because ultimately he can turn around and find some charge, or the FBI can refer something to him and he can go ahead and prosecute them.
00:29:11.000 So they are afraid.
00:29:12.000 I understand that to a degree, but what's the point of being there then?
00:29:17.000 Don't be there if you're not going to take on this corrupt rot that is destroying the country that is just aimed at half of the American people.
00:29:28.000 This is Marxism.
00:29:29.000 This is a banana republic.
00:29:30.000 And if you don't have the guts to stand up to these people, I'm sorry, Jim Jordan didn't even show up at the House Oversight Committee today.
00:29:38.000 Neither did Scott Perry.
00:29:39.000 There were a couple representatives who didn't even show up to ask Matthew Graves a single question.
00:29:45.000 That's inexcusable.
00:29:46.000 I know there were other hearings going on.
00:29:48.000 What could be more important than confronting the man who is leading the criminal prosecution against your own people?
00:29:56.000 Inexcusable.
00:29:59.000 Yeah, look, I like Jim, so I'll let him defend himself.
00:30:02.000 But I think there is a widespread fear amongst rank and file Republicans that they do not want to poke the bear of the administrative state.
00:30:10.000 And look, they go to D.C. for corporate tax policy, Julie, or for some sort of title.
00:30:16.000 They don't want to go after the Leviathan.
00:30:19.000 And the Leviathan is only more empowered and emboldened.
00:30:23.000 And so we have this weaponization of government committee, right?
00:30:26.000 And I mean, I'm not naturally a patient person, I'll be honest, but I'm being patient to see what the heck is going to come out of this.
00:30:34.000 But if I get another report, I'm going to lose it, Julie.
00:30:36.000 I've got enough reports, okay? 1.00
00:30:38.000 I got a report how Hillary Clinton illegally smashed devices.
00:30:41.000 I got a report about how people lied under oath.
00:30:44.000 I got a report on Brennan.
00:30:45.000 I got nothing but reports.
00:30:46.000 I want evil people in jail, not because I like to see people suffer because I love justice, because it's necessary for a free society.
00:30:54.000 One minute remaining, Julie.
00:30:55.000 Where are the criminal referrals?
00:30:57.000 We know they're going to end up in the circular file at Merrick Garland's office, but they can still make criminal referrals.
00:31:05.000 I mean, they did that basically to Eric Holder under the Obama administration.
00:31:10.000 Force Merrick Garland or Lisa Monaco to ignore criminal referrals who are made to any of these people, starting with the Durham seditious conspiracy perpetrators.
00:31:22.000 But you've got people who are going to spend 20, 25 years in jail being convicted for seditious conspiracy, a totally bogus charge brought by Matthew Graves, convicted by a DC jury, which is so easy to do.
00:31:36.000 But have we had any criminal referrals come out of these committees?
00:31:40.000 Not that I know of.
00:31:42.000 What Marjorie Taylor Green did say, I think, was the most forceful thing that's come out of anything out of the House of TOP in the past four months.
00:31:51.000 Gotta run.
00:31:51.000 Julie, thank you so much.
00:31:52.000 Deeply appreciate it.
00:31:53.000 It is very clear that the Republicans are afraid of the FBI.
00:31:56.000 You can't blame them.
00:31:57.000 The FBI controls all the cards.
00:31:59.000 We are living in the shadow of an unelected administrative state.
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