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00:02:14.000I can tell you that the case is more than that.
00:02:17.000And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.
00:02:22.000So again, I think you have seen direct evidence of collusion.
00:02:28.000I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation.
00:02:40.000He's a liar, and he very well might be a senator from California.
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00:02:48.000You know, some people say, Charlie, let me go this one.
00:02:50.000Charlie, I'm disgusted with our justice system.
00:02:53.000How can anybody have good things to say about it?
00:02:55.000And the left gets to do whatever they want, no consequences for their actions.
00:02:59.000The next election is to be fixed, just like the last one.
00:03:01.000No one will believe in fair elections anymore.
00:03:03.000What I see in this country is becoming every communist country.
00:03:05.000Now, let me say, I don't know if this is intentional or deliberate, but the angrier we get, justified by the way, righteous indignation, they think they can provoke us to uncharacteristic violent action.
00:06:26.000After nearly four years of investigation, special counsel John Durham found the FBI lacked actual evidence to investigate then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign in 2016.
00:06:37.000Durham said the Bureau was too reliant on investigative leads provided or funded by Trump's political opponents.
00:06:44.000The FBI expanded its original probe known as Crossfire Hurricane based partly on information from Christopher Steele.
00:06:51.000Steele, a former British spy, put together a research dossier alleging possible misconduct between then-candidate Trump and Russia.
00:06:59.000Durham found investigators did not and could not corroborate any of the substantive allegations contained in the Steele reporting.
00:07:10.000Am I incorrect in saying that we learned very little from the Durham book report and most of the work was the work that you and Cash did five years ago, repurposed with a couple citations.
00:07:20.000Well, look, I think that's exactly right.
00:07:22.000You know, back in, we knew this in 2017.
00:07:25.000I always like to say that when Mueller walked through the door with his pit bull, Andrew Weissman, they knew there was no evidence of Russian collusion because they had none.
00:07:33.000They would have provided it to us already who were conducting an investigation, Charlie.
00:07:40.000Well, they would have had every single bit of reason to give us everything they had in early 2017, right when Trump is becoming president, right after he fires Comey.
00:07:56.000And so, you know, we had been watching this for a long time and we knew there was no evidence of Russian collusion, you know, even just in my experience dealing with Russia, you know, for many, many years before that.
00:08:08.000Fast forward, it took us only about six, eight months to put together what was called then the newness memo that we actually launched around the 1st of February 2018.
00:08:20.000I think the only thing that we learned through his investigation is that it really dialed it in on just the people at the top, the only new names, and maybe I'm forgetting a couple, but it was really the Alpha Bake scam that went on from Georgia Tech, Jaffe, a guy named Jaffe, Dan Chenko, who was their phony Russian that was just a former Brookings Institution guy, and then the Clinton campaign operative, Dolan.
00:08:47.000Now, the worst part with all this is I think no one can understand why he wasn't able to bring a conspiracy charge.
00:08:53.000I think that's the frustrating part because against these DOJ and FBI rogue officials.
00:08:58.000So, Devon, these people get away with it.
00:09:01.000We could talk about the ramifications and the implications of it.
00:09:04.000I mean, this is a total crime against the country.
00:09:07.000If you want to talk about insurrection or seditious conspiracy, this is seditious conspiracy much more than a bunch of, you know, wannabe Rambos with backpacks going into the Capitol on January 6th.
00:09:53.000You know, what I would start with is exposing the cockroaches.
00:09:58.000You're right that the House has the power of the purse working with the Senate, but the Democrats are never going to go for that.
00:10:04.000You know, and plus, you know, there's just a lot more exposure that has to be done because you still have half of America that probably still believes that Trump and Republicans have something to do with Russia, believe it or not.
00:10:16.000You know, maybe this week you aired that report from Catherine Herrge at CBS News.
00:10:21.000It'll be interesting to see here over the course of the next week or so how, you know, have, you know, have we got it down to like 40%?
00:10:28.000Because, you know, it was running at 50% of Americans believe that Trump and Republicans had something to do with Russia, Charlie.
00:10:34.000Now, that's why I say I'll use your term, the cockroaches.
00:10:38.000You know, I know that Jim Jordan, the Republicans have this weaponization of government committee.
00:10:43.000I don't know if there needs to be a special committee or subset of that, but all of these people need to be brought before Congress and publicly exposed.
00:10:54.000But first, what I would do is I would first go after subpoena everything that they have, all of their bank records, everybody they've been paid for the last few years, and do depositions with all of them.
00:11:05.000Everybody that Durham names, the Congress should bring them in for private depositions and then basically catch them lying to Congress.
00:11:15.000Because for some odd reason, Durham didn't bring what seemed to be very easy charges, which would have been lying to Congress.
00:11:23.000I mean, we know Brennan lied to Congress.
00:11:24.000I mean, there's several others that lied to Congress.
00:11:27.000And so I think that's what you do is you hold a whole set of hearings again, expose this publicly.
00:11:33.000Remember, we didn't do too bad back in 17 and 18 when we had the majority when I was chairman.
00:11:39.000It became much more difficult when you had a scumbag like Adam Schiff in there as the chair.
00:11:45.000And of course, they, you know, remember they tried to make the Moeller report come to life and all of that nonsense.
00:11:50.000So I think that's where my recommendation would be to start there, which would be to bring all these people in, throw out the subpoenas.
00:11:58.000You know, you got to get a good group.
00:11:59.000It doesn't need to be a very large committee and even could be people from the outside, but a very strong committee with good investigators that are going to dive down into everything that Durham has.
00:12:29.000Yeah, Charlie, I mean, look, it's a tool, but in order to get that done, you still need a Senate approval and you need a signature by Biden.
00:12:41.000You can make a bunch of noise about it, but actually cutting off the money so Ray doesn't get his jet, I think it's going to be difficult to do.
00:12:49.000But that's why, look, I would put, I know it's, I know people don't like to hear this, but really sunlight is the best disinfectant.
00:12:59.000It's the number one thing they can do right now.
00:13:01.000And look, we're a year and a half away to the presidential election.
00:13:05.000If they could shine a lot of light on this for the next six to eight months, I think it would really help President Trump and the Republicans right this wrong to show all these people who have led America through this nightmare.
00:13:29.000But I'm a little bit shocked at some of the candidates that are out there running and even some of my former colleagues, especially in the Senate, who are not today coming out and say, look, we may not like Trump, but this is wrong.
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00:15:21.000So the House Oversight Committee just wrapped up its hearing about crime problems in Washington, D.C. One of the witnesses was Matthew Graves, the D.C. U.S. attorney, who is handling all of the January 6th criminal prosecutions, a caseload that is now over 1,000 defendants, and he has promised to charge 1,000 more before he's all done.
00:15:43.000At the same time, Charlie, as you know, Washington, D.C. has descended into violent chaos.
00:15:49.000And there are reports, crime data that indicates Matthew Graves, while he fixates on a four-hour disturbance more than 28 months ago, has declined to prosecute almost two-thirds of the cases that are brought to him by local D.C. police.
00:16:08.000And this includes violent repeat offenders.
00:16:11.000who Matthew Graves refuses to prosecute for one reason or the other, as he all of his resources basically are monopolized by prosecuting, investigating, charging, and trying January 6th protesters.
00:16:28.000So what is the process then of impeachment?
00:16:31.000I mean, when we think of impeachment, we usually think of a president, not of a D.C. U.S. attorney.
00:16:37.000What does the process of that look like?
00:16:40.000So Marjorie Taylor Green introduced these articles of impeachment.
00:16:44.000I believe they're the first articles of impeachment against any Biden official, which Matthew Graves is.
00:16:51.000He was appointed by Joe Biden and confirmed by the Senate in November of 2021.
00:16:56.000So this is part of their oversight capabilities.
00:17:00.000And so I believe now that those articles have been submitted, it will now be referred to the House Judiciary Committee, where we will see what Chairman Jim Jordan has to do.
00:17:14.000But look, the double standard of justice in the Justice Department right now runs directly through Matthew Graves' office.
00:17:23.000What he's doing right now is a selective political prosecution to criminalize political dissent to punish Americans who protested Joe Biden's election on January 6th.
00:17:35.000He is bringing outrageous charges recommending excessive prison sentences.
00:17:41.000Representative Andy Biggs today confronted him about wanting 14 years in prison for a man named Thomas Caldwell, a man with no criminal record who is a decorated and disabled Navy veteran.
00:17:55.000He was found guilty of one obstruction count and one tampering with evidence.
00:18:00.000And Matthew Graves wants Thomas Caldwell to die in jail.
00:18:03.000Well, at the same time, Matthew Graves, who handles both local and federal crimes in D.C., this is a very unique position, is letting criminals off the hook run rampant in his own city.
00:18:15.000So this is the sort of hypocrisy disparity that Americans are fed up with when it comes to our criminal justice system, and especially this Department of Justice being so highly weaponized.
00:18:28.000As of course, we just was confirmed again in the Durham report that was released yesterday.
00:18:35.000So, you know, it's important for our audience to know this.
00:18:38.000One of the ways that influence is exerted is through spouses.
00:18:42.000And, you know, this is an attack baseless, by the way, that they tried to go towards Clarence Thomas on.
00:18:48.000But meanwhile, Matthew Graves' wife runs this racket.
00:18:51.000I mean, I'm looking to this website, Julie, and I mean, it's a $100 million organization that almost no one's ever heard of.
00:18:58.000I mean, it's the National Woman's Law Center.
00:19:00.000I mean, we were just marveling in the break of just how much money that some of these groups have.
00:19:09.000We've never heard of them before, right?
00:19:10.000By the way, we have one of the clips up on the screen of their Twitter account.
00:19:13.000Abortion Always is one of their things.
00:19:15.000Then they have another, this is, again, Matthew Graves' wife runs this racket.
00:19:20.000Just Let Kids Play is another one of their initiatives, which is all about having trans kids play.
00:19:32.000I think there definitely is a conflict of interest.
00:19:34.000Look, she's the CEO and president of this very well-funded nonprofit.
00:19:40.000This group is working hand in glove with people like Senator Whitehouse and other activist groups who are demanding the resignation of Clarence Thomas.
00:19:50.000This group is behind the smear campaign against Clarence Thomas and his wife.
00:19:56.000So, how can you have the chief prosecutor who we're supposed to believe, right, justice is blind and he's treating people, suspects and defendants all the same when we know that he's not, have his wife, who is such an outspoken activist trying to remove a sitting U.S. Supreme Court justice, working with Democrats in Congress to do that and create this smear campaign against him.
00:20:26.000She also has choice words and has about Donald Trump and his supporters.
00:20:32.000She referred to white women, suggested that white women who voted for Donald Trump in 2020, people like me, are racists and are only supporting a systemically white racist system in America.
00:20:46.000This is the sort of thing that she has said and her activism role.
00:20:51.000So it's very hard then for people, and they shouldn't believe that there's no conflict there.
00:20:57.000If we're going to start talking about spouses like they want to about Clarence Thomas and attack Ginny Thomas, then everyone's spouse should be fair game.
00:21:05.000And unfortunately, Charlie, in the committee today, no Republican brought this up to Matthew Graves, asked about his objectivity when his wife is such an outspoken, well-funded activist trying to take down a sitting U.S. Supreme Court justice.
00:21:22.000So he's a U.S. attorney, and I asked you this in the break.
00:21:26.000Is he responsible for investigating the Dobbs leak or is that something else?
00:21:30.000I mean, DOJ was supposed to be doing something with that, correct?
00:21:35.000I don't know who actually investigates the leak, but any criminal referral would go to Matthew Graves because he prosecutes federal crimes in Washington, D.C.
00:21:46.000So any sort of leak, I would assume, would be a federal crime.
00:21:50.000And so it naturally would go to his office.
00:21:54.000So, and look, this should also be the office who would be investigating anything that Hunter Biden did when he was in Washington, D.C., say any FARA foreign lobbying, foreign lobbying violations.
00:22:08.000This is also something that Matthew Graves would be investigating.
00:22:12.000So he took a lot of heat today for his high declination rate, meaning number of times the percentage that he declines these cases that are referred to him by local police of 67%.
00:22:24.000But there was very little heat put on Matthew Graves for his selective and political prosecution of January 6th or so.
00:22:32.000I applaud Marjorie Taylor Greene for bringing these articles of impeachment because it should open up a further conversation about how Matthew Graves is handling the most powerful and politically charged U.S. Attorney's Office in the country.
00:22:48.000Let's play cut 45, Marjorie Taylor Greene on this topic, play cut 45.
00:22:54.000The time for weaponizing the Department of Justice needs to come to an end.
00:23:00.000And because you refuse to prosecute real criminals that are violating all the crimes here in Washington, D.C., and you want to talk about D.C. residents, they are victims of your abuse of power.
00:23:12.000And because of that, I am introducing articles of impeachment on you, Mr. Graves, and I yield back the remainder of my time.
00:23:22.000So is Matthew Graves, was Matthew Graves in charge of potentially indicting people that were illegally protesting outside of Supreme Court justice's homes?
00:23:32.000That would have been in the D.C. jurisdiction, right?
00:23:34.000The reason I ask is his wife was probably the ones that were actually organizing those protests.
00:24:13.000That would be the local, well, I believe U.S. Marshals who are given sort of a stand down order by Attorney General Merrick Garland to not prosecute those, that crime, which is a far worse crime than most of the January 6ers are getting parading the Capitol.
00:24:31.000I don't think anyone outside of the man who was arrested for attempting or planning to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh, I don't think any of these protesters who clearly are trying to influence Supreme Court policy, whether it's votes or whether it is bullying John Roberts into conducting an investigation into Clarence Thomas, this clearly is an influence campaign.
00:24:54.000And if these protesters outside, and we know that that's what they're doing, we can see the signage, one corrupt judge, investigate Clarence Thomas, resign, Clarence Thomas, remove him from the court, et cetera.
00:25:06.000That is to influence what the court is doing.
00:25:09.000That is against the law, and that is what no one has been prosecuted for.
00:25:14.000Matthew Graves certainly wouldn't be responsible for that.
00:25:17.000But we know that his wife, the team of Goss Graves, is very deeply involved in encouraging these protests and overall demands for Clarence Thomas to resign.
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00:27:04.000Julie, am I being overly cynical, overly negative with that attitude?
00:27:08.000No, I think that's how a lot of us felt yesterday.
00:27:11.000You know, it's one thing to see the Durham Report and confirm what we've known and what we've reported on.
00:27:17.000But the frustration is knowing that they all got away with it.
00:27:20.000They will continue to get away with it.
00:27:23.000And the January 6th issue is just an extension.
00:27:25.000It was accelerated after DOJ and FBI and these agencies got away with it.
00:27:30.000But I will tell you, watching this House Oversight Committee with a few exceptions, Andy Biggs and Marjorie Taylor Greene refusing to go directly at the January 6th prosecutor, the face of a continued reckless, unaccountable political Department of Justice.
00:27:48.000Their failure to go directly at Graves and not one person threatened to cut off funds to his office.
00:28:33.000I think Republicans are afraid of the FBI.
00:28:36.000I think they're afraid that they might one day get indicted, that they might get a knock on the door, that they might be spied on, that maybe their little foreign thing that they've done might be exposed.
00:28:45.000I think Republicans live in fear that they don't want to poke the bear that might have killed Kennedy.
00:28:56.000They're afraid of the Department of Justice.
00:28:58.000They're afraid of Matthew Graves, which we saw today, because ultimately he can turn around and find some charge, or the FBI can refer something to him and he can go ahead and prosecute them.
00:29:12.000I understand that to a degree, but what's the point of being there then?
00:29:17.000Don't be there if you're not going to take on this corrupt rot that is destroying the country that is just aimed at half of the American people.
00:29:30.000And if you don't have the guts to stand up to these people, I'm sorry, Jim Jordan didn't even show up at the House Oversight Committee today.
00:29:59.000Yeah, look, I like Jim, so I'll let him defend himself.
00:30:02.000But I think there is a widespread fear amongst rank and file Republicans that they do not want to poke the bear of the administrative state.
00:30:10.000And look, they go to D.C. for corporate tax policy, Julie, or for some sort of title.
00:30:16.000They don't want to go after the Leviathan.
00:30:19.000And the Leviathan is only more empowered and emboldened.
00:30:23.000And so we have this weaponization of government committee, right?
00:30:26.000And I mean, I'm not naturally a patient person, I'll be honest, but I'm being patient to see what the heck is going to come out of this.
00:30:34.000But if I get another report, I'm going to lose it, Julie.
00:30:57.000We know they're going to end up in the circular file at Merrick Garland's office, but they can still make criminal referrals.
00:31:05.000I mean, they did that basically to Eric Holder under the Obama administration.
00:31:10.000Force Merrick Garland or Lisa Monaco to ignore criminal referrals who are made to any of these people, starting with the Durham seditious conspiracy perpetrators.
00:31:22.000But you've got people who are going to spend 20, 25 years in jail being convicted for seditious conspiracy, a totally bogus charge brought by Matthew Graves, convicted by a DC jury, which is so easy to do.
00:31:36.000But have we had any criminal referrals come out of these committees?
00:31:42.000What Marjorie Taylor Green did say, I think, was the most forceful thing that's come out of anything out of the House of TOP in the past four months.