The Charlie Kirk Show - Cancel Culture Duck, Duck, Goose Lands on "Racist" Author Dr. Seuss

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00:02:01.000 We've got a packed show for you.

00:02:03.000 But Charlie is unoutnumbered with Fox right now, mixing it up with the ladies there, holding his own.

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00:02:11.000 Charlie will be back in the seat.

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00:02:15.000 Not sure yet.

00:02:16.000 We'll see how things go.

00:02:17.000 But I want to kick things off with, I mean, there's, you know, there's massive events happening all across the world, from, you know, Cuomo having a third accuser come forth to the $1.9 trillion stimulus boondoggle that the Democrats are trying to pass through.

00:02:37.000 The fallout continues, good and bad, from President Trump's speech.

00:02:41.000 Nikki Haley is in the crossfires right now as we speak.

00:02:45.000 But really, the most important piece of news: it's not like we could be helping our country emerge from the pandemic.

00:02:54.000 No, the most important news of the day is that Dr. Seuss has been canceled.

00:03:01.000 That's right.

00:03:02.000 We can't have Dr. Seuss, that racist old bigot who cared about children so much and has been a shining light of literacy for decades and decades.

00:03:13.000 We can't have him in our schools.

00:03:15.000 Oh, no.

00:03:17.000 Dr. Seuss is canceled.

00:03:17.000 Oh, no.

00:03:19.000 So this is from CNN.

00:03:20.000 Six Dr. Seuss books will no longer be published because they portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong, the business that preserves the author's legacy said.

00:03:30.000 The titles are, so I want you guys to think if you had children, you currently have children like I do, and you got some Dr. Seuss books in the closet on the bookshelf.

00:03:39.000 Do you have any of these books?

00:03:41.000 Because you might be a bigot and you didn't even know it.

00:03:45.000 That's what the left wants to tell you.

00:03:47.000 So here's the titles.

00:03:49.000 And to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street, If I Ran a Zoo, McElliott, Elegot's Pool, On Beyond Zebra, Scrambled Eggs, Super.

00:03:57.000 Everybody loves Dr. Seuss when he's talking about eggs.

00:04:00.000 I thought that was like mandatory to be an American, but apparently not.

00:04:04.000 Scrambled eggs, super is canceled.

00:04:06.000 The Cat's Quizzer.

00:04:08.000 The Dr. Seuss Enterprises, which makes these books available, says ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises catalog represents and supports all communities and families.

00:04:24.000 And the announcement was made on Tuesday, the birth date of the famed children's book author.

00:04:29.000 How's that for a happy birthday gift, Dr. Seuss?

00:04:32.000 You're canceled.

00:04:34.000 You have been weighed, you've been measured, and you have been found wanting, unfortunately for you, Dr. Seuss.

00:04:42.000 By the way, his real name is Theodore Seuss Geisel.

00:04:46.000 I believe that's how you pronounce it.

00:04:47.000 We just know him as Dr. Seuss.

00:04:49.000 Cat in the Hat, Green Eggs and Ham, all of this, how the Grinch Stole Christmas.

00:04:53.000 I wonder what's going to happen to that movie.

00:04:55.000 Is Netflix going to cancel it?

00:04:56.000 I think every Christmas Netflix makes that particular movie with Jim Carrey, the new adaption, available to all.

00:05:02.000 So we'll see what happens there.

00:05:04.000 I bet they're going to put a little disclaimer in front of the movie.

00:05:07.000 You watch come next holiday season.

00:05:10.000 This movie is offensive to some audiences.

00:05:13.000 Viewer discretion advised.

00:05:15.000 It's like, this is the time that we lived in.

00:05:18.000 So from CNN, the arbiter of all truth in the Biden administration era says, but Dr. Seuss had a long history of publishing racist and anti-Semitic works spanning back to the 1920s when he was a student at Dartmouth College.

00:05:34.000 There, Dr. Seuss once drew black boxers as gorilla and perpetuated Jewish stereotypes by portraying Jewish characters as financially stingy, according to a study published in the Journal of Research on Diversity and Youth Literature.

00:05:46.000 This is the part that really gets me. 0.57

00:05:48.000 The study.

00:05:49.000 So we talk a lot about on the show, you got to study, you got to follow the science, not necessarily the scientists, right?

00:05:57.000 Because you have scientists that will tell you all sorts of crazy things.

00:06:01.000 But if you actually look at the science in the truest sense of the word science, you can discover truth, certainly.

00:06:08.000 We're not anti-science.

00:06:10.000 We're pro-science, but we're anti-activist scientists.

00:06:15.000 So when they say, well, we're listening to the scientists, the question should then be, which scientists are you listening to?

00:06:20.000 And the same with these studies.

00:06:21.000 When they say, oh, we consulted educational leaders.

00:06:25.000 Well, which educational leaders did you study?

00:06:27.000 Was it Victor Davis Hansen?

00:06:29.000 Was it any of the folks that were on the 1619 project before Joe Biden canceled it?

00:06:37.000 I'm sorry, the 1776 Commission, the counter to the 1619 project.

00:06:42.000 Charlie Kirk obviously was one of those folks that was on that commission.

00:06:48.000 They got canceled as well.

00:06:49.000 The study published, but here's the thing.

00:06:51.000 This is the study.

00:06:52.000 Which study, which educational experts are they including in this study?

00:06:58.000 That study published in 2019 examined 50 books by Dr. Seuss.

00:07:02.000 Get this.

00:07:03.000 And found 43 out of the 45 characters of color have characteristics aligning with the definition of Orientalism or a stereotypical offensive portrayal of Asia.

00:07:14.000 The two African characters, the study says, both have anti-black characteristics.

00:07:20.000 So I read this and I instantly was like, characters of color?

00:07:26.000 Are we talking?

00:07:27.000 I mean, if you look at the Dr. Seuss characters in the books, and I promise you, I am trying to not be insensitive here.

00:07:36.000 But are we talking about redfish, bluefish?

00:07:39.000 One fish, two fish?

00:07:42.000 I mean, are we saying that two is less than one or is worse than one, rather?

00:07:47.000 So is the two offended as well?

00:07:51.000 Or is it just the redfish?

00:07:54.000 Or is it the bluefish?

00:07:57.000 I'm not exactly sure, folks.

00:07:59.000 But there is another aspect of this, which I think is really important because it shows just how high up the wokeism has gone.

00:08:06.000 Now, this is not a surprise to any of you, but it's significant.

00:08:09.000 It's like mark this day in history.

00:08:11.000 March 2nd, 2021 is the day that wokeism officially was endorsed at the highest level at the White House of the United States. 0.70

00:08:23.000 And it is a brain virus.

00:08:24.000 The real pandemic of 2020 was not just COVID, it's wokeism.

00:08:31.000 And it's spreading quickly.

00:08:34.000 It's very destructive.

00:08:36.000 So, read across America.

00:08:39.000 Every year, the president gives a recorded address, and it's played on certain radio stations, certain schools.

00:08:47.000 And part of that address typically has been a mention of or reading from Dr. Seuss' books.

00:08:54.000 Up until this year, conspicuously, the Biden administration chose not to include a reading from Dr. Seuss or a mention of Dr. Seuss because, obviously, Dr. Seuss is a giant racist.

00:09:11.000 And we can't have that, can we?

00:09:13.000 So, think about it: a book and a bunch of books that have brought so much joy, that have been a symbol of literacy, of learning, of creativity, of good, solid values for generations, is being erased, is being conspicuously denied its rightful place in childhood literature.

00:09:42.000 Why?

00:09:43.000 Because all of a sudden, characters that are not human, characters that are made up in large part, now there's a few exceptions to that, are being called people of color.

00:09:54.000 They're not people of color.

00:09:56.000 There's maybe a few exceptions. 0.99

00:09:59.000 Maybe just a few exceptions.

00:10:00.000 I think the New York Post has done a really good write-up on this, explaining a few of these examples that are being cited of an Arab chieftain from If I Ran a Zoo.

00:10:15.000 Anyways, folks, the details are relatively unimportant in this.

00:10:19.000 These characters are all made up.

00:10:22.000 It's fantastical on purpose.

00:10:23.000 It's creative.

00:10:24.000 It's colorful.

00:10:26.000 But this is what it's come to.

00:10:27.000 The left is canceling some of the things that we dearly love and that have been a shining light for generations.

00:10:32.000 Now, here's something that's a little bit interesting, I think, about this: is that he has long been lifted up by the liberal elite of this country for being a wonderful educator of kids and being a wonderful purveyor of morality.

00:10:49.000 Let's go ahead and play President Obama talking about just such a thing.

00:10:53.000 Pretty much all of the stuff we need to know isn't Dr. Seuss.

00:10:59.000 It's like you have to start going seizures.

00:11:10.000 We're all the same.

00:11:11.000 So why wouldn't they treat somebody differently just because they don't have a star on their belly?

00:11:16.000 That's right.

00:11:18.000 He's admitting that Dr. Seuss's moral was don't treat anybody different just because of the way they look.

00:11:26.000 Just because they don't have a star on their belly, according to Obama.

00:11:29.000 And yet that's exactly what the left is having us do.

00:11:32.000 They're saying, no, actually, Dr. Seuss had a bigoted and a negative portrayal of people of color, so we have to cancel these books.

00:11:40.000 When they're missing the point, it's like they never read the books.

00:11:44.000 The moral of the story is that it doesn't matter what you look.

00:11:46.000 It doesn't matter how you are or where you came from or what you say you like.

00:11:51.000 The moral of most of Dr. Seuss's books is that that's irrelevant because we all are in some way the same.

00:12:00.000 His goal was to teach morals.

00:12:02.000 And I remember he had this great quote where he said the kids can see a moral coming a mile away and they gag at it.

00:12:09.000 And so he hides it.

00:12:10.000 He hides good values, good lessons.

00:12:12.000 Here's the other thing that they are forgetting.

00:12:15.000 Dr. Seuss was a liberal Democrat.

00:12:19.000 You know, just check out the Lorax if you don't believe me.

00:12:22.000 There are left-leaning policies laced in his books.

00:12:29.000 You know, something that Charlie talks about, and I think it's really, it's really apt.

00:12:33.000 You know, whether you're a person of faith or not, I think this is an interesting ancient wisdom coming from Genesis 6, 9.

00:12:40.000 I'm reading from the NIV here about Noah, you know, the flood, Noah, for those of you who have not been in church for a few moons.

00:12:52.000 This is the account of Noah and his family.

00:12:54.000 Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God.

00:13:01.000 It's that second line there: blameless among the people of his time.

00:13:05.000 Blameless in his generation, another reading has it.

00:13:10.000 Blameless in his generation. 0.95

00:13:12.000 What is so ridiculous about all of this, and we do it with presidents and Jefferson and Washington. 1.00

00:13:18.000 Oh, they own slaves, they're completely canceled.

00:13:21.000 And you completely overlook all of the good things that they've done.

00:13:24.000 You're ignoring the contemporaries that they lived amongst.

00:13:27.000 You're ignoring the morality of their time and how they pushed through it.

00:13:33.000 Dr. Seuss was anything but racist.

00:13:37.000 Nevertheless, the scrutiny that they put these books under time and time again is completely unfair, unreasonable, and it ignores the fact that there is a history.

00:13:48.000 We can't erase it as much as they want to try.

00:13:51.000 You cannot erase history, folks.

00:13:52.000 You can learn from it.

00:13:54.000 You can grow from it.

00:13:55.000 You can reject certain aspects of those value systems.

00:13:58.000 And then you can choose other paths.

00:14:00.000 But you cannot erase it. 0.97

00:14:02.000 The French tried. 0.57

00:14:03.000 The Maoists tried.

00:14:05.000 The Taliban tried.

00:14:07.000 You can't erase history. 0.96

00:14:08.000 It will live on, and the truth is the truth is the truth.

00:14:11.000 And the truth is that Dr. Seuss's books have been a source of uplifting literacy, of morality, of values, of fun, of creativity.

00:14:22.000 And just because they were written in an era that was a little bit more insensitive to certain peoples does not deem them worthy of canceling.

00:14:32.000 And it's disgusting that these are the people that are running our colleges, our universities, our elementary schools.

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00:16:20.000 I want to talk about something that is massively important, and that is this nasty bill coming through Congress.

00:16:30.000 If you watched the president's CPAC speech over the weekend, you know all about this, in a sense, because you're aware that this election, and frankly,

00:16:45.000 if you listen to this show, I mean, at all, you understand that election integrity in this country is of the utmost importance, that whether you think that certain machines were involved in tabulation errors,

00:17:02.000 whether manipulated intentionally or accidentally, is sort of irrelevant because what's actually probably the most important piece of this entire conversation is that of mailing ballot security, drop boxes, private money being funneled into a public election by the likes of Zuckerberg and others.

00:17:22.000 These are things that we can actually prove happened.

00:17:26.000 We can prove that things like signature verification processes and chain of custody were completely thrown out the window and that those had a tremendous effect.

00:17:36.000 Now, I'm not even making any assertions that should be controversial at all.

00:17:41.000 We just know that COVID was used as an excuse across the country to strip legislatures of their constitutional authority to set the rules of an election in their home states.

00:17:52.000 Governors, state Supreme Courts, secretaries of state got in the way and changed everything.

00:17:57.000 And why?

00:17:58.000 All under the guise of public health and safety because we were living in a pandemic.

00:18:03.000 Well, we're going to actually have Andy Biggs, Representative Andy Biggs, this week if we can get it scheduled.

00:18:08.000 We're doing a little schedule limbo right now and we'll see if we can get it on.

00:18:12.000 But he should be on the show this week to talk about this.

00:18:15.000 He's one of the guys that is leading the charge against in Congress.

00:18:18.000 And I just got to be honest, this thing is an absolute disaster.

00:18:22.000 What it would do is just like President Trump said, it would permanently rig the election in favor of the Democrat Party.

00:18:32.000 And why are they doing it?

00:18:35.000 This is the connection to Dr. Seuss.

00:18:37.000 They're doing it to eliminate systemic racial inequalities that exist in our voting system.

00:18:44.000 They call it HR1.

00:18:45.000 It's For the People Act.

00:18:47.000 For the People Act.

00:18:48.000 HR1.

00:18:49.000 One should tell you something, that it's at the top of their to-do list.

00:18:53.000 So this is happening simultaneously when states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona all have presented several bills that are at various stages of approval taking aim at male voting and really to circumscribe who can vote and which ballots would be valid.

00:19:20.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats in Congress are trying to supersede these attempts by Republicans.

00:19:28.000 So it doesn't matter that rates of COVID are dropping dramatically across the country.

00:19:34.000 It doesn't matter that hospitalizations are down.

00:19:37.000 It doesn't matter that the vaccine rollout is happening over a million doses a day.

00:19:43.000 They think that we'll be soon at 2 million doses a day.

00:19:46.000 It doesn't matter that Johnson Johnson now has a new vaccine.

00:19:50.000 It doesn't even matter that even in places like Los Angeles, it doesn't matter even these places, the schools are going to be opening up soon here in the month of March.

00:19:58.000 They want to make the rules that they set for the election in 2020, November 2020, they want to make those rules permanent.

00:20:06.000 And they want to strip states of their rights to run their own elections.

00:20:13.000 And they're calling it For the People Act.

00:20:16.000 And this would, again, codify the pandemic era voting guidance.

00:20:21.000 But it would also, which is, you know, going to be underreported here.

00:20:27.000 So I want to make sure we cover it right here.

00:20:29.000 It's also going to be stripping states of redistricting power.

00:20:35.000 And that's a big deal.

00:20:37.000 So what the Democrats like to do is they like to centralize power.

00:20:42.000 If you're just going to break it down in us versus them, how we think about life, how we think about government, they want everything.

00:20:50.000 They think of the federal government as the panacea to all that ails us.

00:20:55.000 Oh, systemic racism.

00:20:56.000 Well, we obviously need to have the federal government involved to have a commission on that.

00:21:00.000 And we're going to have a discussion.

00:21:01.000 We'll get back to you with how we take some of your powers away.

00:21:04.000 Well, that's what they're doing here as well.

00:21:07.000 The redistricting is kind of, you know, it's sausage making.

00:21:13.000 It's not sexy.

00:21:14.000 It's not very interesting to a lot of people, but it's incredibly important.

00:21:18.000 And to be fair, it is one of the, how do you say, it's one of the greatest spoils of a political victory.

00:21:27.000 If you are in power, you have an outsized say in redrawing congressional and legislative districts every 10 years in your state.

00:21:36.000 And what they want to do in this bill is they want to strip that power from the states and assign it to a 15-member commission with a quote-unquote fair balance of partisans to avoid gerrymandering. 0.63

00:21:49.000 So the whole point here is that they are saying, well, in these Republican states, they're going to diminish the influence and the power of communities of color. 0.67

00:22:01.000 And so we have to strip this from these evil red state Republicans. 0.58

00:22:05.000 We have to strip this power from them.

00:22:08.000 So voters in each state could challenge reapportionment under the new law instead of having to rely, as is the case presently, and this I'm quoting, on claims brought under various parts of the Constitution, whatever that means.

00:22:21.000 So Trump actually did mention this.

00:22:23.000 He called it a monster in his CPAC speech.

00:22:26.000 He said it had to be stopped.

00:22:28.000 And if you think that 2020 was bad, wait till H.R. 1 takes effect.

00:22:37.000 It's massively unconstitutional, by the way.

00:22:40.000 These rights are apportioned to the states to run their own elections.

00:22:46.000 And nevertheless, the Democrats have never let the Constitution get in the way of a good law that would give them more power and would solidify their power for generations.

00:22:57.000 Drop boxes in general were used to great effect in 2020.

00:23:02.000 People like Mark Zuckerberg poured $400 million into an organization called the Center for Tech and Civic Life, which gave grants to municipalities public health grants.

00:23:12.000 Again, this should not be legal.

00:23:14.000 We're going to have Phil Klein on to discuss it of the Amistad Project, who was on a lot just after the election talking about many of the projects that he was running down.

00:23:25.000 And this was one of them.

00:23:27.000 What the Center for Tech and Civic Life would do is they would place these drop boxes right next to public transport, predominantly in neighborhoods of color.

00:23:37.000 And then just to make it fair, if they knew that they were dropping a convenient Dropbox for votes, ballots, in a conservative district, they might do one.

00:23:48.000 Whereas in downtown Atlanta or Madison, Wisconsin or Detroit, there'd be 50.

00:23:55.000 And you can't check these drop boxes.

00:23:57.000 It's really tough to verify them.

00:23:59.000 And you can't check the signatures on the ballots because in places like Georgia, under the consent decree that Governor Kemp folded and gave to Stacey Abrams, it greatly diminished the state's ability to verify signatures on those ballots.

00:24:18.000 And we've talked about that ad nauseum on this on this program.

00:24:23.000 And Georgia is working to set that straight.

00:24:26.000 But it won't matter at all if this law passes.

00:24:29.000 Another thing that this law does is it strips the tradition of in-person voting.

00:24:36.000 So curbside polling sites would collect absentee ballots.

00:24:42.000 There would be every state would have to accept people registering to vote at least 15 days before the election and then have to accept ballots 10 days after the election.

00:24:56.000 This bill is an absolute boondoggle in a thousand different ways.

00:25:00.000 And by the way, you have to foot the bill for all of these costs that are now going to be put upon the shoulders of the taxpayer to rig an election.

00:25:11.000 And not only that, it's against our very foundation as a nation, federalism.

00:25:17.000 The states created the federal government.

00:25:19.000 Never forget that.

00:25:20.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:25:22.000 So when states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona rise up to fix their voting systems, just as Governor Ron DeSantis did in Florida, to then have the federal government stomp on those constitutionally given rights is an affront to our entire system.

00:25:43.000 And it should not be a surprise to anybody that this is number one item on the to-do list.

00:25:48.000 The number one item on the to-do list.

00:25:51.000 All right, so I want to talk about one other thing because I just think it's funny.

00:25:55.000 I want to play clip 25.

00:25:56.000 This is John Kasich, the failed presidential contender from the great state of Ohio, which, by the way, Trump won it by eight or nine points in November, talking about how the president's speech at CPAC was a total dud.

00:26:10.000 Let's see if you agree with him.

00:26:12.000 Clip 25.

00:26:13.000 Poor, but I thought the speech was a dud myself.

00:26:16.000 I mean, what Trump reminded me of was a boxer.

00:26:19.000 You might be able to still land a couple punches, but there's no sting in the punch.

00:26:23.000 You couldn't knock anybody down or knock anybody out with it.

00:26:27.000 And it was not impressive to me.

00:26:29.000 And remember, there were like 1,400 people in a ballroom.

00:26:33.000 I mean, if this is not the crowd that's going to tear down the rafters, I don't know where they are.

00:26:38.000 I've been saying now for a couple of weeks to you, and I know John has heard that I think he's fading.

00:26:44.000 I really do.

00:26:45.000 And yesterday was just not impressive to me.

00:26:49.000 He wishes, right?

00:26:51.000 He's still jealous.

00:26:52.000 He's still upset about the election in 2016.

00:26:57.000 And it's so obvious it's painful.

00:27:00.000 I have a story I can't resist.

00:27:03.000 And, you know, Charlie mentioned it to some extent yesterday.

00:27:09.000 And that is the ongoing scandal involving Governor Andrew Cuomo in New York.

00:27:16.000 What's interesting about it is, you know, behind the scenes, Charlie and I were actually talking.

00:27:20.000 We were saying, you know, the second accusers come forward.

00:27:24.000 You pair that with the fact that he's got this massive cover-up Regarding the nursing home scandal, where he downplayed the number and he tried to cover up how many deaths actually resulted from his failed and terrible policies.

00:27:39.000 And we said, you know what?

00:27:41.000 I think one more, one more accuser coming forward will probably will probably be it.

00:27:47.000 And so a lot of the headlines read: you know, strike three, Governor Cuomo faces another sexual harassment allegation.

00:27:54.000 And it's fairly gross, you know.

00:27:57.000 I think we can all agree, like, Cuomo comes off as a creepy, kind of older guy, especially with the age of the women that are coming forward in their 20s.

00:28:08.000 The newest Anna Rutch is 33.

00:28:12.000 She told the New York Times that the 63-year-old, and I'm reading from the New York Post, New York governor, made unwanted advances towards her and planted an unsolicited kiss on her cheek at the reception in Manhattan.

00:28:24.000 He said, Can I kiss you? Rutch recalled.

00:28:27.000 I was so confused and shocked and embarrassed.

00:28:30.000 The allegation comes after two former state staffers accused Cuomo of sexual harassment on the job, including one who claimed the governor kissed her without warning at his Manhattan office, which he has denied.

00:28:43.000 She was never employed by the governor, but nevertheless, she was a member of the Obama administration in 2020 campaign, a staffer for Biden.

00:28:51.000 And this was at a wedding. 0.98

00:28:52.000 So apparently, the creepy old New York governor has a thing with kissing young women in an unwanted way.

00:28:59.000 You know, Rutch claims that the governor had his hand on the small of her lower back, which was exposed in an open-back dress.

00:29:06.000 Quote, I promptly removed his hand with my hand, which I would have thought was a clear enough indicator that I was not wanting him to touch me, she told the Times.

00:29:15.000 But the governor didn't get the hint.

00:29:17.000 He allegedly noted Rutch seemed, quote-unquote, aggressive, that Rutch seemed aggressive, and then placed his hands on her cheeks and asked if he could kiss her loudly enough for a friend of Rutch's to hear, according to the report.

00:29:31.000 I turned my head away and didn't have words in that moment.

00:29:34.000 And so I planted one on her cheek, I guess.

00:29:38.000 So, okay, strike three.

00:29:40.000 These are all these creepy, you know, takes on this.

00:29:45.000 It's just a creepy old man.

00:29:47.000 I, you know, do I care about it?

00:29:50.000 Yeah, I don't think any woman should be forced to suffer unwanted, you know, advances from a 63-year-old man, governor or not, a Cuomo or not.

00:30:00.000 But what's more frustrating is about the pivot that's happened.

00:30:04.000 It's the sleight of hand.

00:30:06.000 And it all goes back to the media.

00:30:09.000 So I want to play clip 32.

00:30:10.000 This is Chris Cuomo, his brother, finally fessing up about this whole situation and saying why he can't talk about it.

00:30:18.000 Clip 32.

00:30:20.000 Before we start tonight, let me say something that I'm sure is very obvious to you who watch my show.

00:30:26.000 And thank you for that.

00:30:27.000 You're straight with me.

00:30:28.000 I'll be straight with you.

00:30:30.000 Obviously, I'm aware of what's going on with my brother.

00:30:33.000 And obviously, I cannot cover it because he is my brother.

00:30:39.000 Now, of course, CNN has to cover it.

00:30:43.000 They have covered it extensively, and they will continue to do so.

00:30:48.000 I have always cared very deeply about these issues, and profoundly so.

00:30:56.000 I just wanted to tell you that there's a lot of news going on that matters also.

00:31:01.000 So let's get after that.

00:31:06.000 So, I mean, you know, this is not a comedy sketch like we're familiar with Chris Cuomo doing on his nightly broadcast.

00:31:14.000 This is not a giant COVID test swab with his brother.

00:31:19.000 Now, this comes after CNN has banned him from interviewing the governor, finally.

00:31:24.000 But it took, for example, when the news broke of these allegations, it took CNN eight hours to even mention it, according to Grabian Transcripts.

00:31:31.000 Don't take your eye off the ball.

00:31:33.000 This creepy old man stuff is not the point.

00:31:36.000 It's the scandal and the cover-up at the nursing home.

00:31:38.000 Stay fixed on that.

00:31:39.000 Don't let them throw the scent off.

00:31:41.000 Don't let them distract you.

00:31:43.000 Stay on that.

00:31:44.000 That's the real crisis.

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00:33:25.000 Pretty excited about this.

00:33:27.000 I get to talk about the Harvard Harris poll, which just came out.

00:33:31.000 It's probably one of the most insightful polls that I've seen in a long time because it's really, in a lot of ways, the first insight on how it's going in terms of the public's perception of the Biden administration, right?

00:33:48.000 So we're 40 days in.

00:33:50.000 The guy hasn't given a press conference yet, a formal press conference, probably because as the former president, President 45, President Trump said in his CPAC speech, his barn burner, that, you know, we have some serious concerns about the ability of Joe Biden to keep up.

00:34:07.000 Now, I'm just going to leave it at that.

00:34:08.000 A lot of people make comments and kind of snide comments about his mental faculties and just how sharp he is.

00:34:14.000 But I think that's just a legitimate concern that we all have at 78 years old.

00:34:19.000 Can he keep up with the job?

00:34:21.000 And how's he going to do with it?

00:34:23.000 But that's sort of whatever to me.

00:34:25.000 I really don't care about it.

00:34:26.000 I'm sort of uninterested.

00:34:27.000 I think it's funny.

00:34:28.000 I think some of the clips are hilarious.

00:34:30.000 And, you know, we certainly send those out.

00:34:32.000 So follow Charlie Kirk on his social channels.

00:34:35.000 We have him on Instagram, Reels, and Rumble.

00:34:38.000 Check out Rumble, by the way.

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00:34:46.000 But this Harvard Harris poll is really a verdict on how the Biden administration is doing in its first year or first 40, 45 days.

00:34:56.000 And we have been postulating on this show that in truth, Biden has a bug up his, you know what?

00:35:04.000 He's got something motivating him that is not often reported because the media likes to talk about Joe Biden as, you know, Scranton Joe, this moderate.

00:35:15.000 And we all have seen that it has been worse than we feared in terms of just how progressive he has taken his administration in the opening days.

00:35:25.000 He is captive to the far left of his party.

00:35:27.000 You know, there's a new news report today saying by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying, well, we shouldn't have done $15 minimum wage anyways in the stimulus bill.

00:35:36.000 We should have done $24.

00:35:37.000 That's really the very minimum that we'll accept.

00:35:42.000 So she, you know, as a good negotiator, she's going past what's even on the table.

00:35:47.000 Nevertheless, Joe Biden, and it is our theory that he wants to go down in history as the most progressive president in American history.

00:35:59.000 He lived in the shadow of President Obama for eight years.

00:36:03.000 He was belittled.

00:36:06.000 You know, I think they said that he was, President Obama referred to him as prone to verbal flourishes. 0.95

00:36:11.000 He was kind of the old crazy uncle in the White House.

00:36:16.000 And then by some crazy turn of events, whether it was rigged or it wasn't, I think we all know what we think, and we'll just leave it at that. 0.69

00:36:26.000 He was losing badly.

00:36:28.000 And then South Carolina picked him up and put him in the White House ultimately.

00:36:34.000 That was in the primaries.

00:36:36.000 And why?

00:36:37.000 Because the Democrat establishment said he was the moderate.

00:36:42.000 They said he's the guy that can win the election because he's going to appeal to the widest variety of voters, the biggest coalition.

00:36:50.000 So here we have now progressive Joe is getting polled.

00:36:56.000 How's he doing?

00:36:58.000 The Harvard Harris poll asked the question, which do you find more concerning, the violence in American cities during the past summer or the riots in the Capitol on January 6th?

00:37:08.000 55% of Americans polled said that violence in the cities was more concerning.

00:37:13.000 45 said January 6th riot.

00:37:16.000 Do you think that Antifa is a domestic terrorist group?

00:37:19.000 71% said yes.

00:37:22.000 Amen.

00:37:23.000 And Proud Boys, do you think that's a terrorist group?

00:37:25.000 66% said yes.

00:37:28.000 But here's what's interesting.

00:37:30.000 Do you think that the events of the U.S. Capitol are being used by politicians, Joe Biden, to suppress legitimate political movements, or do you think there is no such suppression of legitimate movements?

00:37:42.000 64% said yes.

00:37:45.000 I want to ask you guys a question.

00:37:47.000 And I have to say, I got this from a meme somewhere.

00:37:49.000 I can't even remember where.

00:37:51.000 But it asked the question I thought it was really, really smart.

00:37:55.000 It said, can you name one instance where the people burning the books were the good guys?

00:38:02.000 Now, obviously, we don't have bonfires full of books like the Nazis did in 1930s, Germany.

00:38:09.000 But we have the cancellation of books.

00:38:11.000 Amazon refuses to platform certain books.

00:38:14.000 There was a book that was talking about transgenderism from a conservative vantage point that was just removed from Amazon.

00:38:21.000 We have the President of the United States is off of Twitter and Facebook.

00:38:24.000 He's appealing it right now.

00:38:26.000 The president of the United States. 0.98

00:38:27.000 I think we fail to remember just how ridiculous that is, how absolute ridiculous that is. 0.91

00:38:33.000 Nevertheless, 64% of Americans are onto it, according to this recent poll from Harvard Harris. 0.81

00:38:41.000 So here's the last thing.

00:38:42.000 And this is really where we get to this indictment on President Biden.

00:38:48.000 The most popular executive orders requiring mass at airports and federal land, 78% apparently like that.

00:38:55.000 I would count myself in the 22%, nevertheless.

00:38:57.000 A moratorium on eviction, 73% like that one.

00:39:00.000 A 100-day mask challenge.

00:39:02.000 People love these masks.

00:39:03.000 71%.

00:39:05.000 And extending the pause on student loans, 68%.

00:39:08.000 Okay, that's where Joe Biden is scoring high marks.

00:39:12.000 But check this out.

00:39:14.000 And this should be our roadmap as conservatives for the next two years.

00:39:20.000 And when I've had a chance to fill in on this show, I've gone hard after a few of these issues.

00:39:24.000 And Charlie hits them every day without fail. 0.98

00:39:29.000 Requiring schools to let biological boys play girls' sports. 0.98

00:39:34.000 Only 45% of Americans like that.

00:39:37.000 55% oppose it. 0.85

00:39:39.000 Reducing deportations for criminal illegals.

00:39:43.000 Again, 55% of Americans oppose that. 0.99

00:39:46.000 It's a winning issue, folks.

00:39:47.000 Immigration is a winning issue. 1.00

00:39:49.000 Enforcement is a winning issue.

00:39:51.000 And this administration has been a disaster on enforcement, a disaster at the border. 0.79

00:39:58.000 And we have a pending human rights disaster crisis at our southern border that I want to talk about ad Nazi because it's so important. 0.55

00:40:08.000 Canceling the Keystone Pipeline, 53% of Americans oppose that. 0.98

00:40:13.000 And reducing immigration enforcement, 51% of Americans oppose that.

00:40:16.000 That is telling folks.

00:40:18.000 They don't want Americans do not want their daughters to have to play sports against biological men.

00:40:25.000 They do not want their daughters to have to be in a private locker room setting with a biological male.

00:40:32.000 They want enforcement of their immigration laws.

00:40:34.000 They want enforcement at the border.

00:40:36.000 And they guess what?

00:40:37.000 They want a pipeline that safely transports fossil fuels so you don't have to put it on rails or trucking that is even more dangerous and more harmful to the environment.

00:40:46.000 And guess what?

00:40:47.000 We want low-cost energy that is dependable when an ice storm hits.

00:40:54.000 Thank you, Texas, for that reminder.

00:40:57.000 God bless Texas.

00:40:59.000 Guys, we have the winning issues.

00:41:01.000 As Charlie often says, conservatives advocate for principles that fit with the human condition.

00:41:06.000 Liberals do not.

00:41:07.000 They are contrary to the human condition.

00:41:10.000 We know common sense.

00:41:11.000 We know the rule of law.

00:41:12.000 We know what we need to make this country safe, secure, efficient, energy-independent.

00:41:19.000 And the Biden administration, all they've got on here is masks. 0.93

00:41:22.000 Apparently, Americans like masks, which I find ridiculous. 0.96

00:41:27.000 Nevertheless, they like masks. 0.75

00:41:28.000 Okay, so we're losing on the masks issue, which, by the way, if you went to CPAC or watched it on TV, you could see from all the coverage that that is the most scandalous thing that the establishment media can come up about CPAC, that and some nonsense about the stage design.

00:41:43.000 Ah, that people weren't wearing masks.

00:41:45.000 Okay, apparently they've won that debate.

00:41:47.000 Czar Fauci has established that two, three, or four masks will keep you safe.

00:41:53.000 But guess what?

00:41:54.000 So will enforcing our border.

00:41:56.000 So will establishing energy independence in this country.

00:41:59.000 And so will keeping men and boys in separate locker rooms and on separate sports teams. 0.98

00:42:05.000 The American people are not stupid. 0.87

00:42:06.000 We need to lean into these issues. 0.92

00:42:08.000 Thank you to this poll for this indictment upon a debacle of 40, 45 days of the Biden administration.

00:42:14.000 It's very telling.

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00:44:00.000 Hello, everybody.

00:44:01.000 This is Charlie Kirk, not producer Andrew, but he is still here.

00:44:05.000 I was just doing some Fox News without numbered.

00:44:07.000 I had a great time.

00:44:08.000 It was very good.

00:44:09.000 And Andrew, thanks for chipping in.

00:44:11.000 Hey, my pleasure.

00:44:12.000 Always here.

00:44:13.000 Everyone said you did a great job and that I should retire to Alabama.

00:44:17.000 I think that'd be a terrible idea.

00:44:18.000 Yeah.

00:44:20.000 Because I just did not do the Dr. Seuss story any justice, Charlie.

00:44:25.000 You need to step into this frost water.

00:44:27.000 So, yeah, let's jump right into the Dr. Seuss thing.

00:44:31.000 And so I woke up and it was part of our kind of show prep, and I was just confused as to what was happening with Dr. Seuss.

00:44:40.000 So I guess he was omitted in Joe Biden's reading or something.

00:44:45.000 There was like National Reading Day, and Joe Biden decided not to include him.

00:44:47.000 Is that right?

00:44:48.000 Yeah, his Read Across America sort of speech.

00:44:53.000 Yeah, his recorded remarks.

00:44:54.000 Typically, what happens is they read from Dr. Seuss in these annual Reading Across America, and he omitted it.

00:45:04.000 So he omitted Dr. Seuss, but then who told him to do that?

00:45:08.000 Because he obviously didn't come up with that idea.

00:45:10.000 Has anyone actually asked him where it was? 0.63

00:45:12.000 I'm going to stay in the Gensaki, but who knows?

00:45:14.000 Who knows? 0.95

00:45:15.000 Who knows who made that decision?

00:45:16.000 It was conspicuously absent, and they did not explain their decision.

00:45:21.000 So they haven't.

00:45:22.000 Okay, so then the Dr. Seuss publishers have now said that they don't want, they're no longer going to publish the books.

00:45:30.000 Is that right?

00:45:31.000 Six books.

00:45:32.000 What are these books?

00:45:32.000 Six of them.

00:45:35.000 Well, they are.

00:45:36.000 Is it the Laura?

00:45:37.000 See, I'm old enough to remember.

00:45:39.000 No, no, it's not the Laura.

00:45:39.000 No, no, but hold on.

00:45:40.000 I'm old enough to remember when Dr. Seuss was praised by liberals for having like non-binary characters and environmental undertones in the Lorax.

00:45:50.000 You remember this?

00:45:51.000 Yeah, I mean, this is what's so ridiculous about this whole story: is that the CNN article quotes that it depicts people of color and the characters of color in the books in a negative light.

00:46:06.000 And I'm looking at it going, like, are we talking about whitefish or bluefish?

00:46:10.000 Well, you know, is this people of color?

00:46:13.000 What does the cat in the hat have to do with people of color?

00:46:17.000 Well, and to be fair, the cat in the hat is not one of the books banned or ceasing to be published.

00:46:17.000 Right.

00:46:25.000 It is if I ran the zoo and to think that I saw it on Mulberry Street, McElegate's Pool, which I've never heard of, On Beyond Zebra, Scrambled Egg Super, and The Cat's Quizzer.

00:46:37.000 You see, I'm rehearing this, I realized why I didn't like Dr. Seuss growing up.

00:46:42.000 None of it made any sense.

00:46:43.000 I know, to be perfectly honest, I was not a big fan.

00:46:47.000 I was never a Dr. Seuss fan.

00:46:49.000 But the point is that it shouldn't obviously be canceled, right?

00:46:51.000 I mean, that's obviously the point.

00:46:53.000 But then I'm just struggling to understand what the sense of urgency around this.

00:46:57.000 I mean, Aunt Jemima, Mr. Potato had gone with the wind, and now Dr. Seuss, does everyone feel safer?

00:47:07.000 I guess is the question, right? 0.79

00:47:09.000 Yeah, you know, I think China's shaking in their boots now. 0.99

00:47:13.000 They figured out that we can cancel things and they might be next. 0.99

00:47:16.000 Yeah.

00:47:17.000 Well, I mean, but it's obviously something we've touched on at great length on this program, which is the rise of postmodernism and the irresistible urge and temptation to eliminate and to, I don't like that word cancel.

00:47:30.000 I don't.

00:47:31.000 It's overused.

00:47:32.000 And also, we've talked about this before that there are plenty of things that should be canceled, and we've talked about that, like child pornography.

00:47:41.000 And so to say that you're against cancellation in general, I just think is a it could be used against us.

00:47:46.000 But I think it actually brings up a very interesting point, which is what does the left consider to be a bigger threat to children, which is graphic sexual education for eight-year-olds or Dr. Seuss.

00:47:56.000 And the left is much more likely to be okay with Planned Parenthood going into California schools and teaching eight-year-olds how to put condoms on cucumbers.

00:48:06.000 That's actually a thing that they do.

00:48:06.000 Literal thing.

00:48:08.000 But they want Dr. Seuss to be removed.

00:48:12.000 So according to the left and their new regime, which is basically what this is, we want six-year-olds to be able to choose their gender, but we don't trust six-year-olds to read Dr. Seuss.

00:48:29.000 That is basically the predominant viewpoint.

00:48:32.000 Am I seeing that correctly?

00:48:33.000 Yeah, I mean, they tell you who they are by their actions, right?

00:48:36.000 I mean, this is 101.

00:48:37.000 Who is a person?

00:48:38.000 They are defined by their actions.

00:48:40.000 And what are they doing?

00:48:42.000 I mean, whether it's Gina Carano or Aunt Jemima or Mr. Potato Head, you know, they are fixated on reconstructing culture to fit their image.

00:48:55.000 And I guess that includes protecting the innocence of children, which is what they're saying it is, then why are they everything they are doing is sexually liberating or actually in the opposite. 0.50

00:49:09.000 Everything that children are engaging with.

00:49:13.000 If your goal was deconstruction, this is what you would do, which is their goal.

00:49:13.000 It makes sense.

00:49:16.000 When does baseball come back, by the way?

00:49:18.000 Well, it's sort of already back.

00:49:19.000 I mean, we're doing spring training.

00:49:20.000 We got the Cactus League going on.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, that's happening in Air.

00:49:23.000 We should go see a game.

00:49:24.000 Do they allow people there?

00:49:26.000 I think so, yeah.

00:49:28.000 We should go see the Cubs.

00:49:29.000 They're right down the street.

00:49:30.000 I don't know if the Cubs are in the Cactus League or not.

00:49:33.000 I know the Cubs are in the Camp Sea.

00:49:34.000 First of all, I know the Dodgers are.

00:49:36.000 They're here in Mesa.

00:49:37.000 Maybe they'll meet when they won their fake World Series this last season.

00:49:41.000 Oh, come on.

00:49:42.000 This is not the place.

00:49:43.000 Maybe it is the forum.

00:49:44.000 It is the forum.

00:49:45.000 That was a tougher World Series to win than any of the other ones.

00:49:50.000 Because it will always have an asterisk.

00:49:53.000 Nobody else won.

00:49:54.000 They beat everybody else.

00:49:54.000 They won.

00:49:55.000 That's all you need to know.

00:49:57.000 There were no fans, no pressure.

00:49:57.000 It was fake.

00:49:59.000 It's like an exhibition leak.

00:50:01.000 Listen, do people agree with me on this?

00:50:04.000 I'll be honest.

00:50:05.000 Email us at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:50:08.000 All kidding aside, if you asked hundreds of people walking the streets with their masks on who won the World Series, I think a couple would know.

00:50:15.000 No, it was like the most underreported sporting event in the history of.

00:50:20.000 That doesn't change the validity of their accomplishments.

00:50:22.000 It absolutely does.

00:50:23.000 You see, this is where I disagree.

00:50:25.000 No, okay.

00:50:26.000 When you have to go through a normal, regular season with fans and people are paying attention, the pressure is on.

00:50:33.000 And the Dodgers are professional choke artists.

00:50:36.000 So if they would have had that sort of pressure, they would have folded and shattered.

00:50:40.000 Hold on.

00:50:40.000 You can't call.

00:50:41.000 You can't call losing in 2017 in game seven because they were cheating.

00:50:46.000 With the Astros?

00:50:47.000 The Astros.

00:50:48.000 You can't call that choke art.

00:50:50.000 I was actually at Game Six.

00:50:52.000 Look at you.

00:50:53.000 Casting your Dodger Stadium.

00:50:56.000 What a backup of traffic mess that place is.

00:50:59.000 Well, we're getting tunnels, according to Elon Musk, the boring company.

00:50:59.000 I know.

00:51:03.000 I think there are already tunnels.

00:51:04.000 I'm taking it.

00:51:04.000 There are tunnels.

00:51:05.000 I told you.

00:51:05.000 See?

00:51:06.000 There's no way celebrities wait in traffic.

00:51:08.000 Right.

00:51:08.000 Connor is saying, go Stros, please.

00:51:11.000 We like Houston.

00:51:11.000 Please.

00:51:12.000 We love it when you listen.

00:51:13.000 So here's a philosophical moral question.

00:51:15.000 Did the Houston Astros win the World Series even though they cheated?

00:51:21.000 And some people would say yes.

00:51:22.000 Some people would say no.

00:51:24.000 Who was the short guy they had?

00:51:26.000 Oh, gosh.

00:51:27.000 Was he a cheater, too?

00:51:28.000 If you asked me in the regular season, this would come up right up.

00:51:31.000 He's like 5'5.

00:51:32.000 Jose Al Tuve.

00:51:34.000 Yeah.

00:51:34.000 Al Tuve.

00:51:35.000 Is he a cheater, too?

00:51:36.000 Oh, big time.

00:51:37.000 Big cheater.

00:51:37.000 There's even allegations that he was wearing a wire.

00:51:40.000 See, you know, I stopped watching ESPN as soon as they had Jameel Hill go and go all BLM.

00:51:46.000 I'm a woke city.

00:51:46.000 I'm an outkick guy now.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, I know.

00:51:49.000 I just, my passion for sports has dimmed.

00:51:51.000 I'm hoping that March Madness can get me back into it.

00:51:55.000 I'm a very big March Mad Madness.

00:51:56.000 You saw what happened when Cuban tried to remove the national anthem, and then the NBA actually said, nope, we're going to keep it.

00:52:04.000 It's true.

00:52:05.000 So I think they know that it's hurting the bottom line.

00:52:08.000 And, you know, kudos to all the Patriots.

00:52:10.000 And I mean that not as the football team, but as the people that love America.

00:52:13.000 All the Patriots are.

00:52:14.000 We love the New England Patriots.

00:52:15.000 At least we used to.

00:52:16.000 Well, we love Tom Brady.

00:52:18.000 That's true.

00:52:19.000 Go Tampa.

00:52:20.000 So how did, oh, I mean, baseball's back?

00:52:22.000 So we have to go watch again.

00:52:24.000 It's spring training.

00:52:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:26.000 I don't know what opening day is, but it's back.

00:52:28.000 In a certain environment, I'm not a regular season baseball fan, but I'm definitely a late season and post-season baseball fan.

00:52:35.000 I love pressure.

00:52:36.000 I think baseball has the most pressure of any sport.

00:52:41.000 No question asked outside of a game-winning drive for a quarterback or a field goal kicker or a free throw near the end of the game.

00:52:49.000 Baseball is nothing but how you handle pressure.

00:52:52.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:52:53.000 It's those pauses in between every pitch.

00:52:55.000 It's spectacular.

00:52:56.000 It becomes psychological.

00:52:58.000 Every moment becomes very, very tense.

00:53:00.000 It's a completely different sport.

00:53:02.000 Basketball, you could play through nerves.

00:53:05.000 You can just hustle.

00:53:08.000 In baseball, it's an interval sport.

00:53:11.000 Because it flows, those other sports flow.

00:53:13.000 You don't even have a moment to sort of collect your thoughts.

00:53:16.000 You just kind of start reacting on instinct.

00:53:18.000 But baseball, it's very much every moment you're thinking.

00:53:22.000 It's such a psychological game.

00:53:24.000 It is.

00:53:25.000 So going back.

00:53:26.000 Anyway, so I don't know how we got on that topic.

00:53:28.000 Well, it's great.

00:53:29.000 I love talking about sports again.

00:53:30.000 I know.

00:53:31.000 It's actually really refreshing.

00:53:32.000 So we can like sports now that Trump's no longer president.

00:53:34.000 Is that a thing now?

00:53:35.000 I don't know about the NBA.

00:53:36.000 The NBA is awful.

00:53:36.000 I'm not ready.

00:53:37.000 Are they in season?

00:53:39.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 See, that goes to show.

00:53:40.000 That's exactly why the NBA will never be the same.

00:53:43.000 That's why they have to pander to the citizens of Wuhan because I don't even know that they were in season.

00:53:50.000 I thought that they had some sort of weird thing.

00:53:52.000 I remember when you went on Twitter and said, you know, you're done with the NBA.

00:53:56.000 Legitimately, I thought that they're in the offense.

00:53:58.000 Now, are you coming back because, you know, the.

00:54:01.000 I want to actually enjoy my life.

00:54:03.000 And so if there's ever a time when sports becomes watchable again.

00:54:06.000 Well, they defended the national anthem.

00:54:09.000 So is that like what at what point are you going to be back in with baseball?

00:54:13.000 Or basketball?

00:54:14.000 Baseball?

00:54:15.000 Oh, basketball?

00:54:17.000 I don't think I've thought it through that.

00:54:20.000 I don't miss it.

00:54:21.000 I don't.

00:54:22.000 In fact, I think the quality of the sport has gone down so dramatically where every single superstar is so afraid of an injury.

00:54:29.000 No one plays defense.

00:54:31.000 You look at the NBA scores back when Michael Jordan was playing.

00:54:34.000 They had the same length as quarters.

00:54:36.000 The average NBA score was like in the 90s.

00:54:38.000 Now it's in the 120s and 130s.

00:54:41.000 The players aren't that much better.

00:54:43.000 The defense has just deteriorated.

00:54:45.000 I don't know that the players are any better.

00:54:47.000 I mean, I don't think that there's a couple.

00:54:50.000 There's more of a physical specimen.

00:54:51.000 There's a couple freakazoids.

00:54:52.000 Like a Kevin Durant is like just a.

00:54:54.000 Well, Stephon Curry is.

00:54:55.000 Just Stephan Curry.

00:54:57.000 He's lights out from beyond the three.

00:54:59.000 I mean, but you can't deny the guy can shoot like you see his videos in practice where it's like Larry Bird is better.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, we would just say, I don't know.

00:55:06.000 I don't know from an accuracy standpoint.

00:55:07.000 He'll make like 100 shots beyond the three-point line.

00:55:09.000 Like he's without missing.

00:55:11.000 I'm telling you, he's probably got an Al Tuve thing.

00:55:13.000 We're going to find out that Steph Curry has like a wire in his ear or something.

00:55:16.000 That like twitches his face.

00:55:18.000 The thing about basketball is: how could you cheat in basketball, right?

00:55:21.000 That's the thing.

00:55:22.000 It's one of those.

00:55:23.000 That's how you cheat. 1.00

00:55:23.000 It's the refs. 1.00

00:55:25.000 They're all true.

00:55:26.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:27.000 Besides that, the calling in science.

00:55:29.000 Okay, going back to something that bothers me.

00:55:32.000 Because I'm actually excited about sports coming back.

00:55:34.000 We need to talk about sports more on this program.

00:55:36.000 We haven't done that in quite a while.

00:55:37.000 We haven't done it because it was unwatchable.

00:55:39.000 It was unwatchable.

00:55:41.000 We used to actually, when we first started the podcast, we did a lot of sports.

00:55:44.000 Yeah, we used to talk about sports all the time.

00:55:46.000 I know.

00:55:47.000 I know.

00:55:48.000 So, why did I call this meeting?

00:55:50.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:55:52.000 Cuomo.

00:55:53.000 So the conservative outrage around Cuomo's harassment has really bothered me.

00:56:02.000 And I am not an automatic team-right, good, team-left, bad person.

00:56:06.000 Obviously, I critique the left all the time and I critique Democrats.

00:56:10.000 Let me be very, very clear.

00:56:11.000 I have no sympathy at all for Andrew Cuomo, right? 0.92

00:56:15.000 I think he's one of the worst, most self-dealing, corrupt governors in the country.

00:56:21.000 But just the, I was watching a couple programs recently and listening to a couple things, and just the piling on about the specifics of these women's allegations. 0.66

00:56:30.000 I say, wait a second. 0.92

00:56:32.000 From what I understand, it's inappropriate behavior.

00:56:34.000 It's nowhere near Bill Cosby or Harvey Weinstein terrorists.

00:56:37.000 Correct.

00:56:38.000 Correct.

00:56:38.000 Not even close.

00:56:39.000 Yeah.

00:56:39.000 Correct.

00:56:39.000 It's creepy old man stuff, is what it is.

00:56:41.000 Which, again, is something that I'm not endorsing, but I'm just kind of getting exhausted with this entire, we're going to platform somebody and act as if what they're saying is 100% true, despite how old the allegation is.

00:56:55.000 And these are somewhat recent allegations against a powerful white man.

00:57:01.000 I'm not into it.

00:57:02.000 Let me just be very clear.

00:57:03.000 And if there's 30 of them, then maybe my opinion will change. 0.99

00:57:07.000 But am I supremely shocked to hear that Andrew Cuomo is a pig?

00:57:11.000 No, I actually think most people in positions in both political parties of power in the corporate level or in the finance level or in the political level or in the media, the media level or Hollywood, you're going to see this pattern of behavior because this is the way that people in power act. 0.88

00:57:31.000 And is that a good thing?

00:57:32.000 No, it isn't.

00:57:33.000 Do I think it warrants the amount of kind of conservative moral platforming we've seen?

00:57:38.000 And that's what really bothers me.

00:57:38.000 No.

00:57:40.000 I just, I think that all the focus should be on the nursing home scandal. 0.63

00:57:43.000 And we don't know if these women are telling the truth.

00:57:45.000 We don't. 0.73

00:57:46.000 We don't know if these women are exaggerating it.

00:57:48.000 Do I think it's probably true that he acted creepily and that he acted out of the normal norms of conduct?

00:57:55.000 I think that's probably exactly what happened.

00:57:55.000 Yes.

00:57:57.000 Do I think it's worthy of his resignation?

00:57:59.000 Probably not.

00:58:00.000 I mean, I called for Al Franken to resign.

00:58:03.000 I look back at it back when I did it.

00:58:04.000 I was like, you know, maybe, maybe not.

00:58:07.000 And I'm just trying to slow down the process.

00:58:13.000 I think that where we are headed with this entire kind of unraveling is not healthy.

00:58:20.000 With that being said, Andrew Cuoma has a completely different position because he actually helped create this beast.

00:58:27.000 He, being a member of the Democrat Party and the sponsor of the Me Too kind of outrage mob, he has to go live now at the, you know, to use the Robespierre example that we used last week.

00:58:40.000 He's now going to have to live at the metaphorical guillotine that he helped create, right?

00:58:45.000 Where Robespierre, who was the leader of the French Revolution, ended up being killed by the guillotine of the Jacobins himself.

00:58:51.000 And he actually died under the device that he helped create.

00:58:56.000 And so that's my saying, that's one of my takes on it.

00:58:59.000 I said this on Fox News on Outnumbered, where I said I am not of the opinion that we should be focusing this much on.

00:59:08.000 I think all of it should be on the nursing homes.

00:59:10.000 No, I'm in complete agreement.

00:59:12.000 The nursing home scandal, I think they're throwing the scent off on purpose.

00:59:16.000 I think that's what I said yesterday.

00:59:17.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:59:19.000 Well, you know, we discuss these things on air, off-air.

00:59:22.000 I don't know.

00:59:23.000 I didn't mean to repeat your point.

00:59:24.000 No, no, no.

00:59:25.000 I'm completely strict.

00:59:26.000 I completely agree.

00:59:27.000 There is a reason, and they all know it.

00:59:30.000 There's a few op-eds.

00:59:31.000 I think there was one in the Washington Post talking about the waning influence and power of Me Too.

00:59:37.000 They know they're leaning into Me Too because they know that these actions don't rise to the level of removing him from office, but they know that the nursing home scandal does.

00:59:47.000 And so they want you to look at the creepy old man stuff because they know he's going to get out unscathed from this when it's all said and done.

00:59:54.000 Yeah, the nursing home thing could be one of the most gross and outrageous political scandals in American history.

01:00:03.000 And we're just deciding not to cover it at all.

01:00:07.000 It's just outrageous.

01:00:09.000 Instead of not covering it, we're covering whether or not he said something to some girl that was probably something he should have said.

01:00:18.000 But in the kind of hierarchy of political scandals, it pales in comparison.

01:00:22.000 And so my advice to conservatives is don't overemphasize it.

01:00:26.000 Don't the standards we must institute when it comes to dealing with these things is due process is the rights of the accused and is a much slower, more deliberate process.

01:00:44.000 And so look, some of the accusations at worst are touching, rubbing her lower back and asking to kiss her.

01:00:50.000 And this picture here of Andrew Cuomo just kind of holding this random young girl.

01:00:56.000 I think that's her.

01:00:56.000 Yeah.

01:00:59.000 That's the third accuser.

01:01:00.000 Not defendable, defensible, I should say.

01:01:05.000 Not shocking either in any way, shape, or form.

01:01:08.000 And so, again, he's going to now have to live under the political circumstance that he helped create.

01:01:16.000 But I don't like conservatives taking this as an opportunity, especially when there's a separate and much exponentially more severe scandal happening with the nursing homes.

01:01:25.000 And this feels like political smokescreen.

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01:02:44.000 Okay, I have no idea what Andrew is about to throw at me.

01:02:47.000 I said, Andrew, find an interesting news story.

01:02:49.000 What do you have?

01:02:50.000 I got two, and you get to choose.

01:02:52.000 Oh, boy.

01:02:53.000 One is that the esteemed John Brennan says that he is embarrassed to be a white man.

01:02:59.000 Yes, I actually wanted to cover this.

01:03:02.000 So that's one.

01:03:03.000 Let's play.

01:03:05.000 I'm already taken. 1.00

01:03:06.000 If the other one's Jensaki, I'm exhausted with her. 1.00

01:03:08.000 I have no patience.

01:03:09.000 But I do want to talk about the guy that runs our intelligence agency.

01:03:13.000 So let's play the clip of John Brennan.

01:03:15.000 Well, I must say, to Claire's point, I'm increasingly embarrassed to be a white male these days.

01:03:20.000 Light of what I see my other white males saying.

01:03:23.000 So I'm not really sure what the context of this is.

01:03:27.000 But you see, John Brennan is not embarrassed that he helped spy on Donald Trump.

01:03:31.000 He's not embarrassed that he helped oversee international apparatus that help overthrow sovereign countries.

01:03:36.000 And he doesn't seem embarrassed to lie under oath in Congress.

01:03:39.000 But no, instead he's embarrassed by his immutable characteristics.

01:03:42.000 Now, John Brennan is a creature of the kingdom of Washington, D.C., and he wants to keep on getting invited to think tanks.

01:03:49.000 He wants to keep on getting invited on TV. 0.82

01:03:51.000 So John Brennan is not dumb. 0.97

01:03:52.000 He realized the new thing you must do is apologize for your whiteness. 0.99

01:03:57.000 And so this is John Brennan who says clearly on national television that I am more and more ashamed to be a white man.

01:04:06.000 Andrew, what are your thoughts?

01:04:08.000 I mean, I think he's on MSNBC, if I'm not mistaken.

01:04:14.000 It could be CNN.

01:04:15.000 So it's MSNBC.

01:04:16.000 But that's MSNBC.

01:04:18.000 And you got to remember, that's the same network that has Joy Reed, the Joyless Reid, on it.

01:04:25.000 It has Al Sharpton.

01:04:27.000 It has a bunch of folks there that are just really hammering.

01:04:32.000 I like to hate watch MSNBC every so often. 0.94

01:04:35.000 And it is just rife with scapegoating of white people.

01:04:41.000 Everything in this country, by the way, Charlie. 0.99

01:04:42.000 I don't know if you knew this, but it is the fault of white people. 0.79

01:04:49.000 That's the postmodern critical theory belief that everything is racist, literally. 0.98

01:04:54.000 The entire system is infected with an invisible virus.

01:04:59.000 And this is the one thing that Robin D'Angelo talks about, who is the author of White Fragility.

01:05:04.000 She says that we're never going to actually solve this problem.

01:05:07.000 And what an amazing business model, right?

01:05:09.000 I mean, where you have highlighted an existential problem that impacts everything.

01:05:15.000 That's a public health crisis.

01:05:17.000 And there's no solution except buying her next book and keep on having her come back and speak.

01:05:22.000 And I really believe more and more this is a racketeering scheme by very underqualified people that have very low levels of intelligence that are making millions of dollars convincing the hyper-privileged people in our country that they must atone and pay reparations for just existing.

01:05:43.000 Well, I mean, I just found the context, by the way, Charlie.

01:05:46.000 And you're absolutely right. 1.00

01:05:47.000 The business model, this is a perpetual problem until you get rid of all white people. 1.00

01:05:50.000 I think that's a really brilliant point. 1.00

01:05:52.000 But the context was the conservative political action conference.

01:05:55.000 It was hosting Cole Wallace, was questioning how Republicans could proclaim themselves the Law and Order Party in the aftermath of the Capitol police officer Brian Sicknick's death during the January 6th mayhem.

01:06:08.000 Ah, so that's the context.

01:06:09.000 That's the context.

01:06:10.000 What's really, and we were ahead of this more so than I think any other program.

01:06:14.000 And the New York Times actually agrees with us.

01:06:16.000 And the New York Times did some good reporting early on.

01:06:19.000 And I think we used that reporting.

01:06:22.000 The New York Times was very clear about it last week, where they said more and more evidence shows that the Capitol riot was orchestrated and instigated by a smaller and smaller group of people.

01:06:33.000 And that evidence is proven multi-institutionally, right?

01:06:39.000 Basically, that is the new consensus, and the consensus is correct, that this was not hundreds and hundreds of people.

01:06:45.000 Now, there might have been hundreds of people that entered the Capitol, but this was mostly planned and plotted and being driven by a small group of people with malevolent intentions.

01:06:55.000 And so insofar that John Brennan's trying to make a point that's different to that, he's going up against what the facts and the data actually say.

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