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00:01:38.000It was so obvious to me what all the holes were going to be in this.
00:01:41.000And I basically tweeted that I would not support the Me Too movement and that it weakened women, you know, and obviously it's bad for men.
00:01:50.000And oh my gosh, the floodgates, first and foremost, like Turning Point USA, obviously, has a lot of young girls that work here, which is amazing.
00:01:58.000It's great in college, you know, a lot of young college women.
00:02:01.000And they took that as Candace Owens doesn't support rape victims, which is what the intention of the movement was, right?
00:02:08.000To say, like, either you support the movement, me too, or you support rapists, which is what they're always doing, right?
00:02:14.000Either you support Black Lives Matter, the organization, or you hate black people.
00:02:19.000And we walked into, I remember Andrew, your PR guy, was like, every single person, he's here now for the people that are watching this and not just listening to it, but every single news reporter, Daily Beast, everyone wanted us to make a comment.
00:02:32.000And there was so much pressure on Charlie to speak out against like what Candace had said.
00:02:37.000Like you had to say something and just toe the line and say like, no, no, no, no, like we support the Me Too organization.
00:02:43.000A couple of people at Turning Point quit.
00:03:27.000And it's so funny because when I was explaining why I didn't support it, I at that time had said, you know, someday I'm going to be a mother.
00:03:33.000And we're deciding on this world that our sons are going to have to live in.
00:03:37.000And the idea that a woman could just make an allegation and she should blanket be hashtag believed because she's a woman is a very scary world.
00:03:45.000And then lo and behold, I became pregnant thereafter.
00:03:48.000And I have a son, you know, and I'm so grateful that I had the courage to just say that.
00:03:53.000But it just could not have been easy for you in the retrospect.
00:03:57.000Like when this whole Amber Heard thing happened, as this movement collects, I texted Charlie and I was just like, Hey, man, like we won that one.
00:04:04.000It took four years for people to understand that women lie, right?
00:04:08.000I mean, someone would ever be so obvious.
00:04:10.000Like, has anybody read the, like, you know, the Bible?
00:06:04.000And it was like, and Johnny was just like, all I can say is like Yorkshire Terriers don't defecate that size.
00:06:12.000And it, but it was, I was so happy about this case.
00:06:15.000And it goes back to Charlie's one of these things that you and I talk about all the time, which is that conservatives don't understand why fighting for culture is so important.
00:06:21.000And I get so annoyed with the who cares about this case.
00:06:25.000You know, we need to talk about the Jeffrey Epstein case.
00:06:28.000Like, no, no, we need to talk about both, right?
00:06:30.000And we need to remember Andrew Brapart's words that politics is downstream from culture.
00:06:34.000And this case was so important for these last five years of women just usurping so much power for themselves under the auspices of this bizarre movement that just declared that women don't lie.
00:06:48.000And to see her do it, you know, to televise this and to see the fake tears, to see how she lied.
00:06:54.000I mean, to see her in the courtroom making a sad face, not able to squeeze out any tears, but also to then hear her as Johnny Depp would play a voicemail, be like, oh, you big baby, what are you going to do?
00:07:06.000What are you going to tell the world that I beat you?
00:07:08.000Like, and that, the world needed to see that, right?
00:07:11.000Like, the world needed to see that people are capable of evil.
00:08:06.000You know, I was speaking about it on my Instagram the other day, but here's another case that should be explored or it's probably never going to happen.
00:08:16.000Like, you know, and I think in the end, what he got was his karma.
00:08:19.000But he was another victim of the Me Too movement.
00:08:21.000Like the story was almost fantastical that they came up with to get rid of him.
00:08:26.000The button on his desk, but the worst part was they accused him of rape.
00:08:30.000So the story was like he, you know, went to the Olympics and he obviously he had consensual sex with one of his employees because she then, when they got back from the Olympics, she admitted all that.
00:08:40.000And then they went on to have a year-long affair all over New York City.
00:08:44.000She went to his apartment, all this stuff.
00:09:02.000And very recently, because the allegations resurfaced, he actually came out and like bit hard and was like, I have, you can call me whatever you want.
00:09:08.000You know, call me a jerk, say I shouldn't have slept with my employees.
00:09:55.000Where men are now saying, you're a joke and either stand by it and you know, show some proof of this or go away.
00:10:02.000And now women are realizing like this is this is this is a crazy girl culture.
00:10:05.000This is not, if anything ever happened to you, if you were actually a sexual assault victim or you're a rape victim, you know, don't run to Twitter and join a hashtag.
00:10:16.000You wouldn't just go, well, I just wanted to tweet it and collect a check and be done with it.
00:10:20.000You know, hold disgusting men accountable, right?
00:10:23.000But also hold disgusting women accountable.
00:10:25.000And Amber Heard, totally, in my opinion, is disgusting women.
00:10:28.000Oh, I mean, she's a psychopath, no doubt.
00:10:30.000And so, Candace, I want to explore with you, though, that kind of our mutual journey in the movement the last four years, where we've dealt with the kind of me too crazies.
00:10:38.000And now, four years later, they can't even tell us what a woman is.
00:10:42.000So, can you help make sense of that for me?
00:10:44.000The intersectionality of everything is difficult to understand.
00:11:11.000And so maybe a part of the reason that there's been this collapse of the Me Too movement and the collapse of various other movements that once had wings is because people are realizing the severity of how sick our culture has become.
00:11:26.000And I think we're finally arriving at people's people being able to define a red line, right?
00:11:38.000And, you know, when they were first saying, oh, men can do whatever they want and they can be a woman and women can be men.
00:11:43.000Was like, okay, when you started with these crazy classroom antics of saying, like, you know, these are our children and we can groom them however and accordingly, you're actually building up a marriage between the left and the right because most people just aren't that crazy, right?
00:11:58.000I have my disagreements with tons of people on the left, but we all agree that children shouldn't be sexualized in, you know, in kindergarten class.
00:12:05.000So the question becomes, who's fighting that, right?
00:12:08.000Who wants our children to be sexualized in the classroom?
00:12:12.000Honest to God, that COVID was a blessing.
00:12:16.000I think that COVID was a blessing because it woke up parents to how little control they had over their children, no longer being able to make a decision of whether or not they were masked, right?
00:12:26.000Telling children that they couldn't come back to school unless they were vaxed at the university level.
00:12:32.000Like, you know, you're going to have to pick between the rest of your life or you're going to roll up your sleep and get this vaccine.
00:12:36.000The parents who did that and then their children suffered from myocarditis, realizing that suddenly we're actually in a custody battle with the state.
00:12:43.000We thought it was one another that we were fighting, left versus right, but actually it's the state.
00:12:48.000It's the Department of Education that's pouring down these poisonous incentives to make women think they can be men and men can be women, right?
00:13:06.000And I think it's important though that we also point out the subsidies though that are pushing forward a lot of this transgender agenda, which is the pharmaceutical companies.
00:13:18.000And the pharmaceutical companies stand to make billions of dollars on chemical castration.
00:13:24.000You've talked about the pharmaceutical companies better than anybody else and more courageously than anybody else in kind of major conservative circles.
00:14:21.000I said, do you think Trump's going to be president forever?
00:14:22.000Like, you're going to be followed up by somebody who's going to then look at us and they're going to say, well, Republicans did it first.
00:14:28.000Republicans did the federal shutdown first for the rest of our lives and beyond that.
00:14:33.000Democrats are now going to be able to say that when they want to do something and force shut down your businesses, that Republicans did it first.
00:14:39.000They're going to dig up old Charlie Kirk tweets and old Ben Shapiro tweets and old everybody but Candace tweets because I was like, absolutely not.
00:14:47.000And so we do have this thing where we're initially fearful and then we wake up quickly.
00:14:53.000Like, you know, it's usually one month and then the conservatives go, oh, wait, okay, now Brett Kavanaugh thing is crazy.
00:14:57.000And it's like, no, this was crazy the second Me Too was trending, not when Brett Kavanaugh happened, right?
00:15:02.000This was, it was crazy the second that the big pharma stuff started happening.
00:15:07.000Not now that they want to force vax children, right?
00:15:09.000The second they were even talking about making adults get vaccines to go back to work or telling us to mask up.
00:15:16.000So I think that trepidation, because I have thought about it, I think that trepidation comes from perhaps this idea that they don't want to give up their comfort, right?
00:15:59.000And so the big pharma piece when it comes to the transgender issue, you know, they have hundreds of drugs in FDA approval for potential billions of dollars of profit.
00:16:28.000We are the biggest narco-state that has ever existed.
00:16:30.000Ha ha, if you think it's El Chapo, if you think El Chapo should be in prison and Dr. Fauci and the Pfizer execs shouldn't, you are asleep, right?
00:16:40.000And thankfully, I've explored it deeper and talk about making a cultural change.
00:16:44.000I openly talk about the fact that I made a decision not to vaccinate my children at all.
00:16:49.000I respect your decision if you decide to vaccinate your children, but have to respectfully say to you, I don't care what you think about that.
00:17:30.000All these babies that are having febral seizures, it's in the inserts.
00:17:34.000You can go on the FDA website and you can read that all of these things that are happening, it's a risk when you get vaccines, just like myocarditis.
00:17:42.000And instead of we're going to normalize the illnesses, so we're going to say, and we're saying it now, actually, we don't know why so many young kids are having heart attacks.
00:18:01.000I want to be one of the most vocal advocates for parents actually choosing and having the information and actually making decisions based on informed consent and not under duress because your child has to go to school or camp or they're not going to be able to.
00:18:18.000Big Pharma is always putting parents in a hostage situation and it's it's time to take our power back.
00:18:24.000And that doesn't even touch the surface of the antidepressants, the benzodiazepans Prozac, Xanax.
00:18:31.000What would make a kid shoot up a school?
00:18:36.000And if you actually read the warnings on benzodiazepans and Prozac and Xanax so I had a friend send it to me who did a lot of research on this if you read the warnings on the drugs by the FDA, it's like could cause erratic violent behavior, could cause delusions Of mass violence.
00:18:54.000You are taking something that is messing with the chemicals in your brain.
00:19:24.000Like, you know, like these kids that you're putting on puberty blockers, I want to know more about every single drug that a child is on when they make a decision to do something that violent.
00:20:07.000And parents have gotten so out of touch with that that they actually allow this system to diagnose their child that something's wrong with them because they'd rather be outside playing, right?
00:20:16.000They're immature, especially boys, especially boys.
00:20:19.000I'm assuming that it is more often the boys that are being given Ritalin and Adderall at a young age because they're off the freaking rails.
00:21:31.000She's like, just hear me out for a second, Candace.
00:21:33.000I think that if you are able to answer the question why, you might just be having a human emotion and there's nothing wrong with you.
00:21:41.000The wisdom that came out of this girl, right?
00:21:43.000And she's like, and you're going to have to, I was 18 years old in my first semester of college.
00:21:47.000And she said, you're going to have to learn to cope with that human emotion because it's going to keep coming up, right?
00:21:51.000She said, now, if you told me that you were walking down the street and everything was fine and then you broke, you broke down into hysterics and were crying and were like, why?
00:22:39.000Why do you think parents are so quick to want to introduce these substances?
00:22:44.000I think it's because parents, I always tell parents that they place so much emphasis on that end of year pick that they put on Facebook, mom and dad, like he's off to so-and-so school, like the honors that they could put on the board.
00:22:57.000Like my son just did this, the move-in day.
00:23:01.000And what they're willing to sacrifice to brag to other parents of their children's accomplishments, it's at the end of the day, it's massive insecurity.
00:23:10.000I get in so much trouble for saying that.
00:23:11.000Yeah, well, I'm always in trouble, so I'll say it.
00:23:15.000So, you think a lot of parenting is based on the social score and approval of neighbors and family members?
00:23:22.000Yeah, yeah, they don't want their kid to be the kid that has to sit out, you know, because he's crazy and won't focus on his math problems.
00:23:29.000So, they are willing to give him a pill so that he focuses, so that he gets the A, so that he's liked by the teacher, so they can say at the end of this school year, oh, my son's going into fifth grade and he's done these honors accomplishments.
00:23:44.000And so, unfortunately, this is sort of the downside of one of many downsides of social media, where it has created this bizarre competition where people are willing to supersede parenting, right?
00:23:59.000They're willing to allow like the right to brag, to humble brag on Facebook sort of supersedes their parental instincts.
00:24:06.000And that's why the system has so much control because they know how much that means to you, right?
00:24:10.000To have your kid not be that kid, you know, you don't want to be the hyper kid in class.
00:24:14.000You don't want to be the kid that wants to go outside and play all day.
00:24:18.000You want to be the kid that's advancing in mathematics and in science.
00:24:21.000And so, I have tried very much because, you know, becoming a mother has transformed me in so many ways.
00:24:28.000But one of those ways is to give parents the permission to be courageous and to be different.
00:24:34.000And it started with me just being like, I didn't vax my kid.
00:24:37.000The people that don't vaccinate kids are all quiet, right?
00:24:40.000Because they're just scared to say that I made a different decision for my kid because you don't want to, you know, be the parent that's risking every child getting polio.
00:27:58.000Well, see, like since I didn't get the vaccine when I got COVID, I tweeted like, you know, I got COVID, you know, uh, for 48 hours, but you know, thankfully, I did not get the vaccine.
00:28:44.000You know, now everybody tweets this at the same time because it's so implausibly stupid that there's no way that many people thought it out.
00:29:04.000Well, and the promise of inoculation is prevention of transmission.
00:29:08.000If it was about lesser symptoms, then let's compare it against hydroxychloroquine of ivermectin nazithromycin, intravenous therapy, vitamin D booster shots.
00:29:15.000I didn't even take any medicine when I had it.
00:29:17.000It was so, I mean, it was, I took one Tylenol when I had COVID.
00:29:21.000Thankfully, because I chose not to get the vaccine, all I had to do was take this one Tylenol and be fine.
00:29:25.000I mean, it's just, it's, it's so stupid.
00:29:52.000So I obviously have been beating the drum against the Black Lives Matter narrative, which is also collapsing, another narrative that is collapsing.
00:30:41.000There's obviously the real estate empire, which has broken into the news, but I did go to George Floyd's house and spoke with his roommates, the last place he ever lived and laid his head down.
00:30:52.000Like what is going to come out about this, I think, is just going.
00:30:55.000People are just going to go, I can't even believe it.
00:30:56.000Like, we knew it was a scam, but we didn't know it was this much of a scam, you know?
00:31:01.000And hopefully, getting this, the truth out there will wake people up the next time a hashtag comes trending around, whether it's Me Too, BLM, Ukraine, which most people can't even point to on the map that are putting up these flags.
00:31:16.000You'll pause and think twice and ask yourself the most important question, which is who benefits from this.
00:31:46.000I was eight months pregnant and I waddle up to this because she's got so many houses that we don't know like what is it the one in Toronto?
00:34:43.000So she just like, you know, but she needed him to protect her, which is weird because that wasn't him, unless he was the white man or the white dog that was outside.
00:34:51.000So I don't know where that money's going.
00:34:53.000I want to close, but to blame with this, it's not black America.
00:34:57.000It's white liberals, white, miserable liberals that have been pushing this forward and financing it too, writing the checks, doing the fundraising.
00:35:14.000So the fact that even she's calling that out, maybe it's time, hey, white people, like stop spending money because you feel guilty and just recognize that, you know, the color of someone's skin does not, you know, make them a hero or a good person.
00:35:27.000And, you know, you got, just admit you got scammed.