The Charlie Kirk Show - November 21, 2020


Censoring the Steal with Alex Marlow


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Breitbart News Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlow sits down with Charlie Kirk to discuss the ongoing election fraud scandal in the Democratic primary and what we can do about it. Charlie and Alex discuss what they are doing to expose the massive amount of fraud that is going on in the election and how we can fix it.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, an exclusive conversation with the great Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
00:00:06.000 Phenomenal conversation.
00:00:08.000 Email us your questions.
00:00:09.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:11.000 We're going to get back to our ask me anythings Mondays.
00:00:14.000 It's just been, let's just say, a complicated couple weeks for our country.
00:00:18.000 We'll get back into the saddle on that soon.
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00:00:30.000 Alex Marlowe is here.
00:00:31.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:33.000 Here we go.
00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:36.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:38.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:41.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:45.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:46.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:47.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:54.000 Turning point USA.
00:00:55.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:04.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:06.000 Alex Marlow is one of the smartest and sharpest minds out there, editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com, Breitbart News.
00:01:13.000 Alex, welcome.
00:01:14.000 I'm going to just let you have the floor.
00:01:16.000 What are you seeing right now that you think people are missing?
00:01:19.000 How do you think things are trending as it is right now?
00:01:23.000 Yeah, it's really interesting because today was an encouraging day.
00:01:26.000 And I think what we're seeing in Michigan is really encouraging for people because it shows you that at a minimum, we're not taking crazy pills when people in MAGA country are seeing all this fraud or alleged fraud or possible fraud.
00:01:38.000 And we've been expecting all of this because if you read Breitbart or if you listen to any of our radio shows or if you listen to Charlie, if you listen to really anyone who's paying attention at all, the left was always going to try to steal this election.
00:01:49.000 How do we know that?
00:01:50.000 Because they think Trump is literally Nazis and they think his supporters are literal Klan's members.
00:01:55.000 If you thought you were going up against literal Nazis, you try to steal the election too.
00:01:59.000 So we always knew they were going to try to steal it.
00:02:01.000 And then they told us when they clearly changed all the rules.
00:02:05.000 And let's admit, if the rules were exactly the same as 2016 or 2018, of course Trump would have won.
00:02:10.000 Can we all be honest and admit that?
00:02:12.000 If the rules were the same, he would have won in the exact same climate.
00:02:16.000 So the rules change and lo and behold, Joe Biden gets 14, 15 million more votes than Barack Obama ever got.
00:02:23.000 Needless to say, something's up.
00:02:25.000 Now, is it that level of cheating that necessarily means the whole thing was rigged or fraud and we have to throw it all out?
00:02:32.000 We don't know.
00:02:32.000 Maybe.
00:02:33.000 But the fact that when we asked questions, they tried to throw us off the internet and call us conspiracy theorists and they censored us all on social media and locked us out of our accounts.
00:02:43.000 That's insane to me.
00:02:44.000 And now after what we're seeing over the last couple of days, we're realizing smart, sensible people who are tasked with investigating these things are starting to come out with some clear examples of the fraud.
00:02:56.000 Enough fraud to overturn the election?
00:02:57.000 We don't know yet, but there are clear examples that are coming out.
00:03:00.000 But even if it was marginal fraud, these elections are marginal victories, allegedly, for Biden, right?
00:03:07.000 I mean, we're looking at this at a state-by-state basis.
00:03:10.000 You're looking at tens of thousands of votes.
00:03:12.000 So precinct by precinct, if just there's five votes per precinct that are fraudulent, signature not verified.
00:03:18.000 For example, in Georgia, if you just look at the absentee ballot issue, you had more absentee ballots than ever before by about like half a million, right?
00:03:26.000 An insane amount of absentee ballots because they fear-mongered around the virus.
00:03:30.000 Yeah.
00:03:31.000 And then a lower threshold to verify it.
00:03:33.000 Just looking at a simple mathematical analysis, it's 50,000 votes that otherwise would have been thrown out in any other election year.
00:03:40.000 But you're not allowed to talk about that.
00:03:41.000 We have the thought police that you're not allowed to think a certain thing. 0.99
00:03:44.000 Sit down and shut up, citizen. 0.98
00:03:45.000 Everyone loves Joe Biden. 1.00
00:03:46.000 Didn't you know that?
00:03:47.000 He's super popular.
00:03:48.000 And now he's going to be a great president.
00:03:50.000 If you disagree with us, we're kicking you off the internet.
00:03:52.000 And I actually think it's all going to have unity and healing once they're done calling us Nazi disenfranchises.
00:03:59.000 After we all get punished and audited and kicked off the internet and deplatformed, demonetized, we're going to love the new America in the virtual gulags.
00:04:07.000 But Alex, what I wanted to ask you, though, is I think it's having the opposite effect.
00:04:12.000 I think it's similar to the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:04:14.000 I think it's having the Streisand effect, actually, because I have more normal people, and I mean normal people on flights on airplanes, stewardesses, you know, restaurants that are coming up to me.
00:04:23.000 They're like, they stole this thing.
00:04:25.000 And it's a completely different reaction than I think that the Malibu people that work for the New York Times would have realized.
00:04:32.000 There's too many things that don't make sense.
00:04:32.000 Yeah, it doesn't.
00:04:35.000 As we mentioned, the discrepancy with all of the Biden votes versus the Trump votes is a big thing.
00:04:41.000 And the Biden votes versus the Obama votes.
00:04:44.000 The president had a pretty interesting tweet noting that at 3.42 in the morning, all of a sudden we got the biggest dump in the history of votes in Wisconsin.
00:04:52.000 It was 143,000 votes for Biden that came in at 3.42.
00:04:56.000 All of a sudden, it was during the 90-minute window that I was sleeping that night when no one's paying attention.
00:05:01.000 And now, all of a sudden, a state where Trump is way ahead, now he's losing.
00:05:04.000 And we're supposed to just accept this in all of these states.
00:05:07.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:05:08.000 Charlie, are there any Republicans accusing Democrats of, I'm sorry, are there any Democrats accusing Republicans of fraud that you know of?
00:05:17.000 Well, when they do, they get what they want, like that North Carolina special election.
00:05:21.000 They asked for a revote and they got it and it was unsubstantiated.
00:05:24.000 But no, in this election, absolutely not.
00:05:26.000 Exactly.
00:05:26.000 So why are all of us, why does the half of the country think that this thing was rigged?
00:05:31.000 If you poll Republicans, the vast majority of Republicans think there was at least some level of tampering with the election.
00:05:37.000 But we're also, if you watch CNN, if you even ask, dare to ask questions and all of a sudden you're one of the worst people on earth.
00:05:43.000 I can't tell you, it's pretty much universal.
00:05:45.000 I don't think I've heard from a single person who isn't actively rooting against President Trump and wasn't rooting against President Trump before the election who doesn't think something funky went on here and wants to get to the bottom of it.
00:05:55.000 But I'll tell you, I take a lot of callers on radio.
00:05:57.000 You've been kind enough to fill in for me from time to time.
00:06:00.000 And you know this.
00:06:01.000 And they're very smart, sensible people, and they're good, decent people.
00:06:04.000 And they just want to know if this thing was fair.
00:06:06.000 Of course, they want Trump to win.
00:06:07.000 I'm not lying to you about that, but they definitely want to know this thing was fair.
00:06:11.000 And everything we're learning, the more time we spend on it, there's just too many holes in the logic that the left has.
00:06:16.000 And we get a big story out right now on Breitbart where we kind of break down Rudy's press conference today and the stuff he broke down.
00:06:22.000 There's like nine examples of potential fraud.
00:06:25.000 Nine.
00:06:26.000 So even if you don't think the Dominion thing is convincing, even if you don't think the fact that the people were observing the count from a thousand feet away, if you don't think that's convincing, then how about how voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them?
00:06:42.000 That's interesting.
00:06:43.000 And now there's affidavits that show that.
00:06:45.000 How about election officials were allegedly being told that there were defects in ballots and to backdate ballots?
00:06:51.000 So that's kind of weird.
00:06:52.000 Can we ask those questions before we start announcing this thing is over?
00:06:56.000 How about ballots casted for Joe Biden and no other candidates that were allegedly run several times to the voting machines?
00:07:02.000 Why would you run something several times to the voting machines?
00:07:04.000 That's very strange.
00:07:05.000 Can we at least answer these questions before we certify anything?
00:07:09.000 Well, and the list here is nine key points from Trump campaign press conference.
00:07:13.000 I encourage everyone to go to breitbart.com.
00:07:15.000 It's your lead.
00:07:15.000 12,000 comments, Alex.
00:07:17.000 That's pretty impressive.
00:07:18.000 Your traffic must be very good.
00:07:19.000 Congratulations.
00:07:20.000 And some of them are.
00:07:21.000 It's huge at record levels.
00:07:22.000 And thanks to you, Charlie.
00:07:23.000 We love our allies in the media who help support us.
00:07:26.000 Yeah, and it's well deserved.
00:07:28.000 And it's look, one of these here is that voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to Venezuelan regime and left-wing donor George Soros.
00:07:35.000 The Constitution provides for a process for electing a president.
00:07:38.000 If the vote is corrupted, which I thought that was really good.
00:07:41.000 Jenna Ellis brought up Federalist 68.
00:07:43.000 I thought that was actually a really, really good argument.
00:07:46.000 And I haven't heard that one thrown around very often.
00:07:49.000 Yeah, well, because people are being cautious, because this is the type of stuff that gets you censored, then you can't post at all.
00:07:55.000 We talked about it internally at Breitbart, but it was kind of premature to put it out there that this is how some of these things are dealt with.
00:08:01.000 And that's why when you look at what happened with Michigan, where these Republicans didn't want to certify the vote, they were literally told they're going to hell and their children and grandchildren are going to get harassed if they don't certify it.
00:08:12.000 They change their mind.
00:08:13.000 Now they want to change their mind back.
00:08:15.000 We heard just now from the Secretary of State in Michigan: you're not allowed apparently to change your mind and uncertify a vote that you didn't want to certify to begin with.
00:08:23.000 You got bullied into certifying.
00:08:24.000 This stuff is all so crazy.
00:08:25.000 And we're all acting like this is all normal.
00:08:27.000 This is all perfectly normal.
00:08:29.000 Just like when Biden slurs his words and can't speak and his jaw falls out of his head, that's all super normal.
00:08:34.000 We're just getting lied to constantly by our media, and we have a right to know the answers to these things.
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00:09:44.000 Here's the difficulty, the trouble that we're headed towards, and this is why this fight is so important.
00:09:48.000 And my favorite question I get, Alex, I love this question.
00:09:51.000 We get it all the time.
00:09:52.000 People are emailing us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:09:54.000 They say, so do you think we're going to win?
00:09:56.000 I say, it's a completely irrelevant question.
00:09:59.000 It's absolutely irrelevant.
00:10:01.000 I mean, the probability of victory has nothing to do with whether or not you actually fight in this moment.
00:10:06.000 None.
00:10:06.000 The question is whether or not you're pursuing an ultimate moral good for a civilization that is worth defending.
00:10:12.000 If we lose, then so what?
00:10:15.000 Then we lost.
00:10:17.000 You don't judge your involvement based on whether or not.
00:10:20.000 I mean, I looked at some of the heroes in American history, specifically the heroes that stormed Normandy Beach.
00:10:25.000 If they weighed their odds as they went to the Omaha sector on Normandy Beach, they would not have come back with very good odds that day when 3,000 Americans lost their lives.
00:10:36.000 However, they did that because they understood the struggle that was at hand to defend the West and to defeat evil.
00:10:41.000 Now, I'm not comparing the fight for voter fraud against the invasion of Normandy Beach because I get to see the Media Matters article right now.
00:10:48.000 What I am saying, though, is that when you pursue a moral good, the probability of victory needs to be dismissed because we don't know how this is going to play out.
00:10:55.000 But what we do know is that we are uncovering probably generations of corruption that they've been able to get away with that no politician had dared call out before.
00:11:05.000 Everyone knows it's such a well, it's so well put, Charlie.
00:11:09.000 Everyone knows MAGA had a super strong night, second most highest vote total for a president ever, most for an incumbent ever.
00:11:16.000 And they won virtually every other contested race, period.
00:11:19.000 Everyone knows the MAGA values are ascendant, huge gains in minority communities, huge gains in places where the media said it was impossible to make gains.
00:11:29.000 So, what are we going to get?
00:11:30.000 Are we going to get Donald Trump for another four years, which I would love, or are we going to get a very weak Joe Biden?
00:11:37.000 These are not a doomsday.
00:11:39.000 This is not a doomsday scenario for people with our values.
00:11:42.000 But what is a doomsday scenario is if Biden, they cheat in Georgia and Biden gets a Senate and then he can do wild immigration reform, for example, change the electorate as we know it, do a mass amnesty.
00:11:54.000 We need to make sure that things get tighter on the electoral front, not looser.
00:11:58.000 And if you think they get away with this without us putting up a fight in this time, when we know they tampered with it to some degree, then they're just going to do more and more and more once they achieve power.
00:12:10.000 And so that's the thing that I'm concerned about even more.
00:12:13.000 Of course, I want Donald Trump to win very badly, but your point about how this is a broader thing, you can't run a republic like this.
00:12:19.000 A republic cannot function in this way with this level of chaos for too long.
00:12:24.000 And the public is with us, Charlie.
00:12:25.000 There's a big poll today we had that the president tweeted that John Nolte wrote up, 17,000 comments on this one.
00:12:31.000 Only 50% of likely voters say the 2020 election was not stolen by Democrats.
00:12:37.000 47% that said that it's likely Democrats stole the election.
00:12:41.000 These are polls.
00:12:42.000 And this is an amazing thing that Rasmussen put out.
00:12:47.000 A whopping 47% of likely voters believe Democrats stole the election.
00:12:51.000 It's Rasmussen.
00:12:52.000 I mean, this is not an unknown guy.
00:12:54.000 Yeah, he's on the right, but this is a known quantity who's out there saying people think this is totally bogus.
00:13:00.000 Well, and here is the, here you play this out.
00:13:04.000 When people lose faith in the process of which you actually put leaders into power, then they will then lose trust in the system that they oversee and with it, the entire country as well.
00:13:16.000 This is how you get disintegration, right?
00:13:18.000 And this is what has always made the American system different is because of a state-by-state model, because state-certify elections, it was always harder to corrupt the system, right?
00:13:28.000 You had to win a lot of DA races.
00:13:29.000 You had to get them on the same kind of playbook.
00:13:32.000 This was actually one of the few opportunities, I think, in the last 40 years, 50 years since 1960, where they had an opportunity to pull this off.
00:13:40.000 Number one, the DAs were put in place strategically because of George Soros and Tom Styer funded efforts.
00:13:40.000 And here's why.
00:13:47.000 They actually institutionally took over these positions, right?
00:13:50.000 The DAs and the county recorders and who actually counts the ballots, they made a point to fund these races that are usually underfunded and they're stepping stone races.
00:13:59.000 That's what I call them.
00:14:00.000 They're people that want to be governor.
00:14:01.000 They want to be a senator.
00:14:02.000 They want to be something else.
00:14:03.000 So you go count votes.
00:14:05.000 Like, okay, it's super vanilla.
00:14:07.000 No one cares.
00:14:07.000 You go do that.
00:14:08.000 There's no like special way to do it.
00:14:10.000 But then the Democrats started to care about process even more than politics.
00:14:14.000 Like, how do we actually do this, the mechanization of politics?
00:14:18.000 That's number one.
00:14:18.000 Number two, the reason they were able to get all these different levels of government agreeing to the same thing is because of Trump, is because Trump actually represented the greatest potential death blow to the American left.
00:14:29.000 That's how they were able to get all these different people from across the country to agree to cut corners.
00:14:35.000 Because all of a sudden, Kim Fox has a lot in common with Mayor Eric Garcetti.
00:14:39.000 I'm just using an non-election example because they hate Trump that much.
00:14:43.000 And this is their great call to action.
00:14:46.000 Because Alex, this is the third part.
00:14:48.000 I should say it's three parts.
00:14:49.000 And you said it so perfectly.
00:14:51.000 If you and I actually believed that Benito Mussolini was running the White House, I would be encouraging cheating.
00:14:57.000 Let me be clear.
00:14:59.000 If I thought Benito Mussolini was running the White House, I would be actively involved in cheating and I would morally defend it under my Christian ethic.
00:15:07.000 I don't, and it's not.
00:15:09.000 But when you convince yourself of this, don't be surprised when they start to do stuff like this.
00:15:15.000 Exactly.
00:15:15.000 Right.
00:15:16.000 And this is why they can't simultaneously be a part of the resistance or four years, Charlie.
00:15:22.000 They literally call themselves the resistance.
00:15:24.000 And then they tell us we can't have like 25 days to figure out what's going on. 0.84
00:15:28.000 I mean, it's so ridiculous.
00:15:30.000 They still haven't accepted the last election. 0.98
00:15:32.000 Stacey Abrams was out there today acting like she was a big class act. 1.00
00:15:36.000 She still never conceded her governor race in Georgia. 0.73
00:15:38.000 So these People, Saint Stacey.
00:15:42.000 And then, you know, there is a it's so we laugh so we don't cry, but this is exactly super high stakes.
00:15:50.000 This is super high stakes, and people need to get involved, and they need to be very vocal with people in their lives.
00:15:56.000 It's not enough just to be passive here.
00:15:58.000 Now, I'll tell you about these DA races you mentioned.
00:16:01.000 This has been Soros' pet project for decades, and he's ahead of us on this by a mile.
00:16:06.000 And we need to build an institution where there are terrific candidates getting groomed for those down-ticket races with terrific values and great stand-up character.
00:16:15.000 And we need to be that organized.
00:16:17.000 The left has always been that organized.
00:16:18.000 The right is not nearly that organized.
00:16:20.000 And you know what's scarier to me, Charlie?
00:16:22.000 It's not the people, the Gavin Newsoms and the Kamala Harris's and the Joe Bidens, who don't really have much of an ideological viewpoint, and you're just trying to get ahead in Democrat politics.
00:16:33.000 It scares me the people who are content to be down there and to be unknown and to just chip away and do the pick and shovel work for the far left globalist movement for 30 years.
00:16:44.000 And those people make a huge contribution to the leftist takeover of our institutions.
00:16:49.000 They're doing our corporations as well.
00:16:51.000 A lot of these people want to be anonymous.
00:16:52.000 They don't want to be heroes.
00:16:54.000 Some of them do. 1.00
00:16:54.000 Stacey Abrams wants to be a hero. 1.00
00:16:56.000 We know that.
00:16:56.000 But there are a lot of people out there who don't want to be heroes.
00:16:58.000 They just want to make the country more leftist or more globalist or both.
00:17:02.000 And that to me is almost the scariest thing.
00:17:04.000 Well, and it's the long march through the institutions, which was actually a slogan that was originally written by a communist student, Rudy Dusky or something, Dutchki, we'll get the exact name.
00:17:15.000 It was back in the 60s, where this was that it was his idea that you must be relentlessly patient in the process of taking over pre-existing Western institutions.
00:17:28.000 Now, the problem for the Democrats is that the American system is really, really hard to create a revolution in.
00:17:35.000 It's really hard.
00:17:37.000 The founders created it as such.
00:17:38.000 You have to have a really good idea for a long period of time in a lot of different pockets of the country and not make mistakes and not be too radical to be able to effectuate change.
00:17:49.000 For example, the Civil Rights Act, a great idea, but it took a long period of time because you had to win people over, be relentless, and then eventually you get it into a constitutional amendment.
00:17:59.000 Whereas the ideas that Democrats are trying to push forward, there's going to be a check and balance against it.
00:18:05.000 There just inevitably will.
00:18:07.000 And I want you to talk about this, Alex, which is you said MAGA had a great night.
00:18:10.000 Not only did MAGA have a great night, it had the best night in the history of almost Republican politics in recent memory, better than 2016.
00:18:17.000 We won more Hispanic voters, more black voters, more married women voters.
00:18:21.000 We did great in Miami-Dade County.
00:18:23.000 We did well everywhere.
00:18:24.000 We did better in Chicago, better in Beverly Hills, better in Washington, D.C.
00:18:28.000 We did better in New York City.
00:18:29.000 We did better in Suffolk County, better in Sussex County, we did better in Long Island, we did better in upstate New York.
00:18:34.000 There's only a couple pockets where we did worse, conveniently the places that were the centers of power that would determine the election, where the Canada didn't campaign.
00:18:42.000 They had no ground game, no campaign.
00:18:43.000 Which is a total coincidence.
00:18:44.000 It's 100% coincidence. 0.77
00:18:46.000 And if you dare question, Charlie, you're a race. 1.00
00:18:48.000 You're threatened democracy. 1.00
00:18:49.000 Yeah, that's right. 1.00
00:18:49.000 You're a racist and democracy, democracy doesn't die in darkness, and you're an awful person. 1.00
00:18:55.000 And so, but can you talk about how now we are supposed to process like what you have the Chamber of Commerce gatekeepers that came out today? 1.00
00:19:03.000 They said, Trump, sit down, shut up. 0.95
00:19:05.000 You lost. 1.00
00:19:06.000 Open the borders. 0.97
00:19:07.000 Get us our visas back.
00:19:09.000 Can you now tell us that this was a victory for Trump whether or not he gets sworn in on the 20th of January?
00:19:14.000 That's the lesson of what happened.
00:19:16.000 Yeah.
00:19:17.000 Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily go that far.
00:19:20.000 I would go almost that far.
00:19:21.000 I agree with pretty much everything you said, other than Trump is a winner.
00:19:24.000 Trump is not used to losing.
00:19:26.000 He doesn't like losing.
00:19:27.000 And even if he lost on a technicality, I know that's going to dog him.
00:19:31.000 And especially because they're going to try to keep hurting him.
00:19:34.000 And they're going to try to punish America for electing him to begin with.
00:19:38.000 And so I think it's going to be a long four years for the president in some ways if he does not pull this thing out.
00:19:43.000 And if he does pull it out, we know it's going to be a long four years because the last four weren't exactly a cakewalk for the man.
00:19:50.000 So it's a, and I think this is important to really internalize this, that they want to punish this man for as long as he walks on the planet.
00:19:56.000 And if those folks in Michigan are any indication, they're going to try to punish his children and even his grandchildren.
00:20:02.000 And not for anything they've done on their own, just for being related to Donald Trump, the same way so many of us have been punished, not just for supporting Trump, but insufficient Trump hatred is grounds for cancellation in certain industries like Hollywood.
00:20:16.000 If you don't hate Trump enough, then they throw you out of Hollywood, basically, these days, unless you keep your mouth shut.
00:20:21.000 So it's going to be a, but the values are solid.
00:20:26.000 The values are ascendant.
00:20:27.000 And I think that that's what is very encouraging.
00:20:31.000 But it is not just about the values, unfortunately.
00:20:34.000 It is also about community organizing.
00:20:36.000 We mock Barack Obama for this. 0.99
00:20:38.000 And this is how he kicked our butt twice. 0.95
00:20:40.000 And this is how Joe Biden is even in a position to maybe pull this out is because the Democrats were so focused on getting out their vote. 0.80
00:20:50.000 And MAGA did all they could, set records, and it still might not be enough.
00:20:54.000 And that is something that needs to be a four-year project for anyone who wants to see MAGA get bigger.
00:21:00.000 Well, and what I meant by Trump as a victor, regardless of that, is that he is now as consequential of a president as FDR and in the 20th century.
00:21:10.000 FDR was so consequential.
00:21:12.000 Everything that happened for the next 20 years was almost all centered around FDR's politics, right?
00:21:19.000 He was such a big deal.
00:21:20.000 The Republican Party had to reinvent itself post-FDR.
00:21:24.000 The Democrat Party, he was so powerful.
00:21:29.000 He was so transformational, I think, for the worse in some ways.
00:21:32.000 I think he did a fine job, you know, overseeing World War II, but he really changed the Democrat Party.
00:21:37.000 They are still reaping the benefits of some of what FDR did in the Democrat Party politically.
00:21:43.000 I think Trump will be no different in the sense that post-presidency Trump, if that happens, which I really don't hope, I hope it doesn't, is that he's not going away.
00:21:52.000 I mean, it's just, they will be, they will punish every single person that dared associate with them.
00:21:57.000 They'll deplatform if you dare mention him.
00:22:00.000 And it's going to be a test of Republicans whether or not they want to have the courage of their convictions to actually continue to stand with what he has done.
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00:23:21.000 So Alex, can you now walk through the process now of what it would take for President Trump to win at this moment?
00:23:27.000 I believe there's still a path.
00:23:29.000 You have nine of these that Rudy laid out.
00:23:32.000 I think I feel better.
00:23:33.000 And interestingly enough, the betting markets moved 3% in Trump's favor today after that press conference.
00:23:39.000 Yeah.
00:23:39.000 Again, that's not scientific, but that's something.
00:23:41.000 Can you walk through what the process would be for a second Trump term, how that would happen?
00:23:45.000 So he's got to, if you look at the map, and I don't have it in front of me, but there are six states they're looking at.
00:23:49.000 And I think there's hope in most of them.
00:23:52.000 Nevada is six electoral votes, and I don't really see that one as close enough.
00:23:57.000 So I wouldn't have that on my list until the last 36 hours.
00:24:03.000 I was looking at he needs to make something happen in Pennsylvania.
00:24:06.000 Pennsylvania, there's still a significant level of hope because you never know.
00:24:10.000 The Supreme Court could literally throw out huge portions of the vote because they told them specifically, you need to make clear when these vote-by-mail votes came in.
00:24:20.000 And if they came in late, then they might not necessarily let them count because this was a last-minute rule because of the pandemic that you could count mail-in votes three days after the election.
00:24:29.000 That's a total absurdity.
00:24:31.000 And the Supreme Court very well could throw that out, not to mention there's going to be a ton of fraud uncovered in Philadelphia.
00:24:38.000 But the problem is in Pennsylvania, Biden's lead right now is 150,000.
00:24:43.000 So I would not put that in an overly rosy camp, but I would say there's a good 10 to 20% chance that that thing, at least at a minimum, would have to go to a revote, which would be insane.
00:24:55.000 And the country would descend into total chaos.
00:24:57.000 So I'm not shining that part on, but that is still a possibility because if a certain level of shenanigans comes out, then that's a possibility.
00:25:07.000 So now there's three other states on my list that have been on my list that are very narrow and potentially with an audit, not with a hand, not with a recount per se, because a recount, you just could be counting the same fraudulent votes.
00:25:21.000 But Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona are all within 20,000 votes.
00:25:25.000 And with an audit, you could conceivably see some widespread patterns in the vote that show that there are some elements that are clearly extra legal, shall we say.
00:25:38.000 And if they are able to determine enough of a pattern, those states could either go to a revote or certain counties could not get certified, or perhaps there are a certain number of votes that get crossed out.
00:25:49.000 Like we saw all these Georgia votes in Arizona.
00:25:52.000 Both of those states got closer with the last batch of ballots that came in for President Trump.
00:25:59.000 So there's a certain amount of optimism there.
00:26:02.000 So, and then last but not least is Michigan, where now it's total chaos there, where they don't want to certify the votes in the biggest county.
00:26:08.000 The Republicans don't.
00:26:09.000 So it'll get kicked to a state auditor who will, again, it's a bipartisan thing.
00:26:15.000 And if the bipartisan committee doesn't certify it there, then it goes to the state house, which is controlled by Republicans.
00:26:21.000 So you never know in Michigan as well.
00:26:23.000 So basically, he for sure needs Pennsylvania.
00:26:25.000 So they need to determine widespread fraud.
00:26:28.000 He needs to make huge progress in one to two of those three states that are on a knife's edge in terms of demonstrating at least enough impropriety to have some revote or you cover the 20,000 vote gap.
00:26:44.000 And then the outlier is Michigan, where I had written off until two days ago.
00:26:50.000 But now after what we saw in Wayne County, I think that's back in play to some degree too.
00:26:54.000 I know it's wildly complicated.
00:26:56.000 It is wildly complicated.
00:26:57.000 And it is not something where people should get their hopes up too high.
00:27:02.000 But we're not out of the fight yet if you're on the side of the president.
00:27:06.000 So, Alex, can you also comment on some of the issues that Sidney Powell has been raising?
00:27:12.000 We got a ton of questions, thousands and thousands of questions.
00:27:15.000 The Venezuelan thing, the Dominion voting systems, Hammer scorecard.
00:27:20.000 Can you help build some of this stuff out?
00:27:22.000 I really respect your opinion on that.
00:27:24.000 Yeah, so I'll be honest with you on some of this.
00:27:26.000 This is some of the stuff where I think I'm not going to give you a totally satisfying answer.
00:27:30.000 I've not dug into Hammer and Scorecard too much.
00:27:33.000 My initial kind of dive into it did not let me think that that is going to, it might be a long-term thing to look into, but I don't get the impression that is going to play a big role in this particular election.
00:27:46.000 I could be totally wrong and I could get roasted in the comments, which is fine.
00:27:49.000 But I hadn't dug into that one too much because my initial impression was this is stuff that if it's going to get sorted out, they're supposed to certify the vote in December 8th.
00:27:56.000 So we got a ticking clock here, and that's not one you're going to get the public to sort out by then.
00:28:01.000 So the Dominion voting systems is interesting.
00:28:05.000 And there's discussion of it being used potentially by Maduro in terms of him using it to rig elections.
00:28:15.000 But this isn't necessarily a this is one where I do think Dominion is weird, but not again, I don't think the fact that it could be emanated in foreign outlets or some of the votes are counted overseas.
00:28:30.000 That's all stuff that's terrible and we should stop it, but it's not going to nullify three or four states unless we figure out that Dominion was literally flipping thousands of votes at a time, which Sydney Powell is going to have to show evidence of that.
00:28:43.000 So that's one where we got to wait for her to show us.
00:28:46.000 So that it came from Venezuela or that there's also a competitor with Dominion that used to be the same company, but now they're competitors.
00:28:53.000 It's all very confusing.
00:28:55.000 But all this stuff is not going to flip the election unless they demonstrate that it is flipping the election literally.
00:29:01.000 So I think it's incredibly irresponsible that we're so sloppy with the way we count the vote.
00:29:06.000 And the fact that we're counting the vote overseas is something that people should have been aware of this.
00:29:11.000 They should have been on this.
00:29:12.000 And this shouldn't be news to us after the fact.
00:29:14.000 But unfortunately, the fact that it is news to us after the fact means I don't have my heart set on that being the deciding factor.
00:29:22.000 But Dominion is weird, and people need to dig into it.
00:29:24.000 And they need to dig into some of the discrepancies that we've seen from them.
00:29:28.000 Yeah, no doubt.
00:29:28.000 And also, just we know that it changed 6,000 votes in Michigan.
00:29:32.000 We know that.
00:29:32.000 That's right.
00:29:33.000 That's the key point.
00:29:35.000 But is that a trap?
00:29:36.000 Is that a trick that we sit there?
00:29:37.000 We know that it flips 6,000 votes.
00:29:40.000 But yeah, so it's the so SmartMatic is the one where they're actually competitive with Dominion, and people are thinking that they're like the same company, which shows you that everyone's confused by it because it's not that the Dominion used SmartMatic software, is what people are telling me.
00:29:57.000 But actually, that SmartMatic's denied that and actually they vie for the same business.
00:30:02.000 So again, this is very muddied and it's not going to get sorted out in time.
00:30:06.000 What is going to get sorted out in time is if Sydney Powell can point out it wasn't just a 6,000, it was 6,000 all over the place.
00:30:13.000 If she can do that, then it's a big deal.
00:30:15.000 But if not, then I think we're going to have to sort that out after that.
00:30:17.000 And that's a high threshold, right?
00:30:19.000 So I'm not saying that she can't do it.
00:30:21.000 She is just, you know, and Sydney Powell's a friend of both of ours.
00:30:24.000 I bet she's been on your program a lot.
00:30:26.000 You guys have profiled her quite often. 0.85
00:30:29.000 She doesn't really bluff.
00:30:30.000 I mean, she's saying she has evidence.
00:30:33.000 No, no, she doesn't tend to bluff.
00:30:36.000 And she's very well respected.
00:30:37.000 I actually, I don't think I have interviewed her, actually, which is kind of surprising, but she's a very serious person.
00:30:42.000 And she's not just a TV spokesperson.
00:30:45.000 She's on Fox a lot, but she's not someone who is, you can marginalize and write off.
00:30:50.000 She's worked miracles in the past against incredible adversity.
00:30:53.000 So that is something that's really got my audience and the Breitbart audience got their hopes up.
00:30:59.000 There's no doubt about it because of her reputation.
00:31:02.000 Her reputation is so sterling that if she says she's got it and she's sticking her neck out there to the extent that she is, it makes you think she's got something.
00:31:10.000 So the clock's ticking.
00:31:11.000 We would love to see it, but you should be optimistic until you see what she's got.
00:31:16.000 So just breaking right now, Joe Biden has just relaunched his fundraising campaign called the Biden Fight Cup Fund.
00:31:23.000 They just relaunched it just to make sure that Trump doesn't win, is what they say right there.
00:31:29.000 It's just a little bit of a crumb that they might be a little bit nervous about a couple of things here and there.
00:31:34.000 You know, it's interesting.
00:31:35.000 I had a great conversation with the left-wing caller on my radio show today, which is on SiriusXM 6-9 on the Patriot channel Eastern Time.
00:31:43.000 That's 125, in case any of you want to tune in.
00:31:47.000 I had a great conversation where I asked the guy after I talked to him for five minutes and he was kind of trying to roast me and heckle me.
00:31:53.000 I said, you sound a little nervous.
00:31:55.000 You sound like you don't think this thing's in the bag.
00:31:57.000 I keep hearing on CNN it's over.
00:31:59.000 And I even hear from Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney that it's over.
00:32:02.000 But I don't know.
00:32:03.000 I don't think you think it's over.
00:32:05.000 And this is a Georgia voter.
00:32:06.000 And he's someone who did vote for Bush back in the day.
00:32:10.000 And now he's a committed Biden guy.
00:32:11.000 And it was interesting.
00:32:14.000 Well, they're not acting like winners.
00:32:16.000 So when you win, do you go create a list of all your enemies when you win?
00:32:20.000 Is that what you do?
00:32:21.000 When you work with the Trump Accountability Project, I know we've won.
00:32:25.000 We've reclaimed government.
00:32:26.000 I know what we're going to do. 0.99
00:32:28.000 The Red Terror. 1.00
00:32:29.000 That worked great. 0.99
00:32:30.000 So, Charlie, I'm glad you brought up AOC and her list.
00:32:33.000 And there's all these other lists as well.
00:32:35.000 But I just think it's a silver lining of if Biden gets across is watching the left pick him apart.
00:32:42.000 And he's going to be under huge pressure from the establishment, you know, the pro-war side in Washington from both parties, the John Kasich wing of the Democrat Party.
00:32:51.000 And then you're going to get the AOC wing of the Democrat Party.
00:32:55.000 Everything Biden does that isn't exactly what she wants is just going to get completely torched on social media.
00:33:01.000 And it's going to be, I can't wait.
00:33:03.000 I mean, it's going to be a delight to watch.
00:33:05.000 Oh, well, and he stands for nothing.
00:33:06.000 He made deals with everyone.
00:33:08.000 And what is horrifying, I want to close with this, Alex.
00:33:11.000 Talk about how scary it is and creepy it is.
00:33:14.000 What's going to happen with big tech?
00:33:16.000 You guys might be the most censored news site out there.
00:33:19.000 You guys are invisible to Google.
00:33:22.000 But here's what worries me, though, is that we wrongly label Democrats as socialists.
00:33:27.000 AOC is, Rashida Talib is, but the power center is much more cronyist and much more fascist, where they're actually going to be merging multi-trillion dollar corporations with the federal government, where they're almost indistinguishable.
00:33:41.000 And you kind of saw this with Diane Feinstein at the Twitter Facebook hearing after she was screaming at Mark Zuckerberg, asking him why her printer wasn't working the last week.
00:33:53.000 She then went and kind of was scolding him and was saying, why are you not doing more to go after Donald Trump?
00:34:01.000 And it kind of hit me.
00:34:02.000 I said, Diane Feinstein is acting as if Mark Zuckerberg is her Chinese driver.
00:34:07.000 Like she expects him to do the bidding of the Democrat Party or even more nascent than that, they at least expect him to be like a government agency.
00:34:16.000 They're treating him like a public utility.
00:34:19.000 Now, there's arguments that some people on the right think that they should become public utilities.
00:34:23.000 I think they're interesting.
00:34:25.000 I think breaking them up is much better.
00:34:26.000 But the point is this, is that they now view tech as theirs.
00:34:30.000 Like, it's no longer that they hate big companies.
00:34:33.000 It's like, you are ours.
00:34:34.000 Go after our political opponents.
00:34:37.000 Yeah, it's a this is exactly and the reason why is because they know these companies are so overwhelmingly on the left that there were huge pushes within Google, for example, to get Breitbart demonetized in the platform so we can't make ad revenue.
00:34:52.000 You know what goes on with conservatives and YouTube.
00:34:55.000 And with Facebook, conservatives have done okay, even though we're harassed constantly.
00:35:00.000 I was just dealing with a bogus, phony baloney fact check that was sent my way right before I came on with you.
00:35:06.000 It's a constant ducking and dodging of trying to defend accurate stories from our competitors in the establishment media who are the appointed Facebook fact checkers.
00:35:16.000 In Twitter, we see what they're doing to the president right now, where they censored him 23 times in the last week, I think, and no Democrats.
00:35:23.000 They don't censor Democrats.
00:35:24.000 They just censor Trump.
00:35:26.000 Of course, their expectation is these guys are going to do everything they can to promote us.
00:35:30.000 And Zuckerberg, now he's got this huge voting initiative that he's got out there where he is going to Georgia.
00:35:38.000 And of course, he's why is he going out there, the big voting initiative, to get Republicans elected?
00:35:42.000 We know what he's doing.
00:35:43.000 So it's kind of a surprise to them where they just don't go all the way and just say, censor Breitbart, censor Donald Trump Jr., censor Eric Trump.
00:35:52.000 Let's just be done with it.
00:35:54.000 And that's what Richard Blumenthal, Da Nang Dick, the guy who claimed he was a Vietnam war hero and wasn't, he was lobbying Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey on the Hill this week, saying they need to be throwing Breitbart off the air, censoring us some more.
00:36:10.000 And it's just unbelievable.
00:36:12.000 Why?
00:36:12.000 Because we're inaccurate.
00:36:14.000 A guy who lied about being a war hero, we're the inaccurate ones.
00:36:17.000 So this is what's so scary about giving the left power because they just have this totalitarian streak, Charlie, which is just so wide.
00:36:23.000 It's so, and what is the first thing they're going to crack down on?
00:36:27.000 It's going to be speech because they see our freedom as a huge threat to their values, which is trying to advance the left in this country.
00:36:34.000 And once you understand that fundamental, if people take nothing away from the stuff I said of the last half hour, it just understand that that's what's at stake.
00:36:40.000 The left really does want to silence you.
00:36:42.000 I think people are tuning in, they get it innately, but they think your freedom is secondary to their political victory.
00:36:49.000 And once you get that, it's hard to stay on the left.
00:36:52.000 Yeah.
00:36:52.000 And the reason they don't like speech is that when you actually interface with someone who disagrees with you, if it doesn't go terribly wrong, which usually it doesn't, you actually end up having a thing called nuance.
00:37:03.000 And you actually end up hating the other person's position a little less and seeing where they're coming from.
00:37:08.000 And when you have nuance, then all of a sudden dogma dies.
00:37:11.000 Then all of a sudden, the religious aspect of the left kind of fades away and it becomes a lot less fun to be a leftist, actually. 0.68
00:37:18.000 Where all of a sudden, the kind of endless Olympic contest of who can be the most, you know, the most progressively transgender accepting, you know, BLM incorporated, woke up. 0.66
00:37:33.000 You mean pre-science?
00:37:34.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:37:35.000 Person, it's this kind of becomes a lot less interesting because you're like, well, maybe there are downsides to gender reassignment surgery for two-year-olds. 0.99
00:37:42.000 Like, shut up, racist.
00:37:43.000 And that's the thing that they don't like about speech is it actually kind of dulls the impact of the left-wing blunt forced object that could possibly destroy Western society. 0.99
00:37:55.000 And they're like, stop talking because when you talk, all of a sudden you become way too moderate.
00:38:02.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:38:03.000 And that's what when people get exposed to our ideas, and you know this, this is what you're all about at Turning Point, what we're all about at Breitbart and what our pals at PragerU are about.
00:38:11.000 It's all that the more people get exposed to conservatism, the more they get convinced by it.
00:38:16.000 I mean, how many people that convert to leftism, is it not because of just because they get indoctrinated because they're in a bubble, or because they get bullied into it?
00:38:25.000 People on the right come to it naturally just by absorbing the information.
00:38:28.000 And that's the left's greatest fear.
00:38:30.000 And that's why they have to keep us under control because the more free we are, the more we're going to vote against them.
00:38:35.000 And that's not acceptable.
00:38:37.000 You can always tell who has truth based on almost instantaneous conversion stories.
00:38:42.000 And you never hear of instantaneous conversion stories on the left.
00:38:46.000 People become leftist because they're either indoctrinated or immersed around it, but people become on the right almost in a moment.
00:38:52.000 Alex, how can people support you or get behind what you're doing?
00:38:57.000 Thank you for asking.
00:38:58.000 Most importantly, go to Breitbart.com.
00:38:59.000 We're experiencing record traffic and it's all word of mouth.
00:39:02.000 You don't advertise.
00:39:03.000 So it's all you guys sharing our content on whatever is your social platform.
00:39:07.000 Breitbart's pretty easy to find.
00:39:09.000 I'm at Alex Marlowe on Twitter, at Marlow News on Instagram, and Alex Marlow Media on Facebook.
00:39:15.000 I also host a radio show 6 to 9 a.m. on SiriusXM 125, The Patriot, also available on podcasts and SiriusXM app.
00:39:22.000 So any of those places.
00:39:24.000 So we're all over the place and come find us.
00:39:26.000 Thank you.
00:39:26.000 Thanks, Alex.
00:39:27.000 Appreciate it.
00:39:27.000 Talk to you soon.
00:39:28.000 Thank you, Charlie.
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00:39:57.000 God bless.
00:39:57.000 Speak to you, sir.