The Charlie Kirk Show - Central and Eastern Europe—Western Civilization’s Unlikely Ground Zero

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00:02:53.000 My heart is heavy today, and I wanted to lead the show with some very just awful news in the last couple days that has come to fold, which is a dear friend of mine and of Turning Point USA just passed away, Foster Freeze.

00:03:09.000 Now, this year has been tough.

00:03:13.000 Last summer, we lost Bill Montgomery, who helped get Turning Point USA started and was the original mentor for everything that we have done at Turning Point.

00:03:22.000 Bill Yespi, a friend of mine from Georgia, passed away suddenly back in November.

00:03:28.000 Of course, Rush Limbaugh passed away back in February.

00:03:33.000 Another dear friend of mine, Tom Patrick, passed away recently, who was one of our most generous supporters at Turning Point USA and was a man who was so clear about the need to think freely about these issues.

00:03:46.000 And now Foster Freeze.

00:03:48.000 Foster Freeze was a larger-than-life man.

00:03:52.000 Foster Freese was born and raised in Rice Lake, Wisconsin, with nothing, not a dollar to his name.

00:04:01.000 He ended up being one of the most successful money managers in American history, running what was called the Brandewine Fund.

00:04:08.000 I met Foster at the Stairwell, the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida in 2012.

00:04:14.000 I basically had to barter my way into the convention.

00:04:18.000 And when I was in a stairwell, I saw a man with a cowboy hat that I recognized.

00:04:22.000 Of course, it was Foster.

00:04:24.000 I went up to him and I tried to introduce myself, but he was first to introduce himself.

00:04:29.000 And he said, My name is Foster Freese.

00:04:31.000 Here's how you'll remember my name.

00:04:32.000 You have a Foster's beer and a thing of fries and you add an S.

00:04:35.000 He told me a couple jokes.

00:04:37.000 I will not repeat some of them here on air, but they were always fun, colorful, and just slightly politically incorrect.

00:04:43.000 He told me his favorite Bible verse, told me about himself, and then asked me what I wanted to do with my life.

00:04:49.000 I told him I was trying to get an organization started called Turning Point USA, that I wanted to educate, inspire, mobilize, and organize young people around pro-American ideas and conservative ideas.

00:05:01.000 He was enthused at this proposition.

00:05:04.000 We talked for quite some time, exchanged business cards, and he said he'd support me.

00:05:08.000 A couple weeks later, he wrote us our first check of $10,000.

00:05:14.000 That was the seed funding we needed at Turning Point USA to get us where we are now as the largest conservative student organization in the country, one of the largest conservative organizations in the country, where we are playing offense with a sense of urgency to win America's culture war.

00:05:30.000 Our relationship with Foster did not stop there.

00:05:32.000 With Foster, I traveled the country with Foster, if not the world, been to different countries with him.

00:05:38.000 He always had a cheerful, optimistic view of the world.

00:05:42.000 He was adamant about finding common ground and being civil to one another.

00:05:48.000 Foster Freese had a hatred of abbreviations for abbreviation's sake.

00:05:53.000 For example, if I were to say that I ran TPUSA, he'd say, no, no, no, it's Turning Point USA, otherwise known as TPUSA.

00:06:01.000 He was very specific in how people would communicate.

00:06:03.000 For example, if you went out to dinner with Foster Freese, only one person was allowed to talk at a time.

00:06:08.000 There was no side conversations allowed.

00:06:10.000 You must have one conversation and then listen to that and then react from it.

00:06:16.000 Foster loved telling jokes.

00:06:18.000 He always had his current portfolio of jokes that were rehearsed down to the syllable, identically told to all different audiences.

00:06:25.000 And Foster was probably best known for his generosity.

00:06:29.000 Foster Freese made many times at Turning Point USA our success possible by issuing challenge grants.

00:06:37.000 He famously came up at the stage at Mar-a-Lago at one of our events and came up and said, I will put up $1 million if this room can raise a million dollars.

00:06:49.000 And we multiplied that.

00:06:50.000 Then the next year, he shocked the audience and said, I will put up $5 million if we can raise $5 million.

00:06:58.000 And we did that.

00:07:00.000 And because of that, then Turning Point USA was able to hire all the staff we have now, where we're on pace to have 1,000 high school chapters across the country, do our campus tours, be able to do our massive events, be able to be dominant on social media, all thanks to Foster.

00:07:13.000 Foster said that a day well-lived is a rep, R-E-P, which means that you have some time for a relationship.

00:07:23.000 You have to exercise, and if you're productive, a full day, a well-lived day, is including an R-E-P.

00:07:32.000 He gave away more money than any other person I've ever seen.

00:07:36.000 Last year, Foster Freese earned $87 million in the stock market.

00:07:41.000 And Foster Freese gave all of it away.

00:07:44.000 He gave $87 million plus to charity last year.

00:07:49.000 Just because he said, God has been good to me, I will give it away to the smallest charities imaginable.

00:07:53.000 Let me tell you about Foster's 70th birthday party.

00:07:57.000 Foster's 70th birthday party in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

00:08:00.000 He invited all of his closest friends.

00:08:02.000 I was not yet a friend of his, didn't know him.

00:08:04.000 I was still in high school, but he invited all of his friends to a party in Jackson Hole.

00:08:07.000 He asked everyone who came to the party to write down their favorite charity on a piece of paper saying that he was going to pick one or two by the end of the night and give them a donation in honor of his birthday.

00:08:17.000 Everyone was very excited.

00:08:18.000 Everyone said, maybe my charity will be picked.

00:08:20.000 Maybe my private school, the charter school, the church, the hospital, whatever it is.

00:08:25.000 So Foster gets up on stage and he says, you know, there's all these great charities that have been submitted.

00:08:30.000 I'm going to give $70,000 to all of them.

00:08:34.000 Every single person's charity was chosen.

00:08:37.000 People were crying.

00:08:38.000 People didn't even know what to do.

00:08:40.000 Where instead of choosing one or two, he chose every single charity.

00:08:44.000 Now, there were hundreds of people at that event, which means hundred, about 150 couples.

00:08:50.000 For those of you at home that want to do some math, go do 70,000 times 150,000.

00:08:55.000 He gave it away in one night.

00:08:58.000 He had a magic for picking talent.

00:09:00.000 He loved his country.

00:09:01.000 He ran for governor unsuccessfully in Wyoming back just recently and finished second in that primary.

00:09:09.000 He always wanted to see the best in people.

00:09:14.000 Foster Freeze even went so far to try to build a bridge with Harry Reid, something that always was very interesting.

00:09:19.000 And he thought he could find one thing he agreed with Harry Reid on, which was restoring Ford's Theater where Abraham Lincoln was shot.

00:09:27.000 So Foster gave a donation and that got him a relationship with Harry Reid.

00:09:31.000 Foster passed away yesterday and it troubles all of us, but I know that he would not want us to be sad because he's in heaven.

00:09:36.000 He was a devout Christian.

00:09:38.000 He would want us to remember his legacy and to keep moving forward with good cheer, with a love of your country, a love of future generations, and honoring those that came before and to do something now about it.

00:09:52.000 He lived every moment with this heroic spirit, almost like Ernest Hemingway or Winston Churchill or Teddy Roosevelt.

00:10:01.000 That I'm going to just do everything I possibly can to make sure that we have something beautiful to pass on to future generations.

00:10:09.000 And I can say Foster Freeze made that kind of impact on so many people, myself included.

00:10:14.000 So God bless you, Foster.

00:10:15.000 It's hard to believe that you're no longer around, that I'm not going to get your very carefully worded text messages or emails that say dictated by Foster Freeze, transcribed by a service, which is one of the ways he texts.

00:10:26.000 That's a story I'll tell sometime.

00:10:28.000 But God bless you, Foster.

00:10:29.000 Russell Kirk said that a life well lived is if you bring brightness to the corner of which you're in.

00:10:35.000 And Foster, you did that.

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00:12:28.000 Just breaking right now, the United States Senate successfully blocks the January 6th Commission 5435.

00:12:36.000 There were some Republicans that very strangely voted for this.

00:12:40.000 Susan Collins, not a surprise there.

00:12:42.000 Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, not a shocker.

00:12:44.000 Rob Portman, Ben Sass, there you go.

00:12:47.000 And then Bill Cassidy from, is it Bill Cassidy?

00:12:50.000 I think it's Bill Cassidy from Louisiana.

00:12:53.000 This is the first filibuster of the Biden era.

00:12:56.000 Thank goodness we still have that in place.

00:12:58.000 And CNN says this: the Republican opposition highlights the hold former President Trump still has on most of his party and underscores the deep partisan divide surrounding the fallout of the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

00:13:07.000 This is not the right way to look at this.

00:13:09.000 After the Mueller investigation, no sane or rational person should want to appoint another special prosecutor after that meandering, unconstitutional appointment where we saw a complete first of all, no Democrats were successfully investigated.

00:13:26.000 Well, one was.

00:13:27.000 He wasn't even successfully prosecuted from it, but one was investigated.

00:13:31.000 And it turned into something that was a mission creep from the original idea of, oh, we're worried Russia is interfering in our election.

00:13:38.000 And it turned into going after process crimes of Stone and Manafort, Papadopoulos, Flynn, and others.

00:13:44.000 And so we know what happens when we give power to these independent commissioners and these independent prosecutions.

00:13:50.000 Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation is already looking into this.

00:13:53.000 So I'm glad that Republicans actually held the line.

00:13:55.000 I was a little skeptical, but I want to give credit where credit is due.

00:13:59.000 I have a, let's just say, you never know where I'm going to go when I mention Mitch McConnell.

00:14:04.000 Sometimes I'm very upset.

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00:14:07.000 Thank you, Mitch McConnell.

00:14:08.000 Mitch McConnell, you coming out and saying that this commission should be blocked was a courageous thing to do.

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00:14:23.000 What you did here was the right thing and the courageous thing. 0.75

00:14:28.000 So I'm going to get to this other story here that you might have saw.

00:14:31.000 The co-founder of Black Lives Matter has stepped down.

00:14:35.000 BLM co-founder Patrice Cullers has decided to step down.

00:14:40.000 And we really don't know why.

00:14:41.000 I mean, we do know that she has amassed a rather diverse real estate empire.

00:14:46.000 She stepped down as the executive director after it was found that she has basically a real estate portfolio that would make Ted Turner jealous.

00:14:54.000 She has homes from everywhere from Georgia to Los Angeles.

00:14:58.000 And it's really kind of Question of what good has Black Lives Matter or BLM Incorporated actually done for the black community.

00:15:06.000 You see, if BLM stood for the black liberation movement and actually stood for rebuilding families and getting black fathers to take responsibility and charter schools and increasing literacy rates, that's something that I could actually be behind.

00:15:20.000 Instead, it's the exact opposite. 0.53

00:15:22.000 It's about blaming white people for something they did not do.

00:15:25.000 It is about embracing critical race theory.

00:15:28.000 And again, if BLM was about a movement that was rooted in the tradition of Frederick Douglass, if it was rooted in the tradition of Thomas Soule, of talking about what actually matters, which is, of course, a strong nuclear family, if you go to Black Lives Matter website, it says we stand in opposition to the Western prescribed nuclear family.

00:15:49.000 We stand against this idea that we should have charter schools or any sort of educational programming that works.

00:15:57.000 And so for that reason and other reasons as well, BLM Incorporated is actually less popular today than any other time of their existence.

00:16:06.000 And despite all of that, our State Department endorsed BLM Incorporated recently.

00:16:12.000 BLM Incorporated, since it got very, very popular, and now it's so unpopular that they're trying to go through a rebranding.

00:16:22.000 They're trying to say, well, no, we're actually against police brutality, which of course is not a major threat against the black community at all.

00:16:30.000 In fact, I do this with great regularity, which is what, how's Chicago been in the last week for all my friends listening right now on the wonderful radio station and AM560?

00:16:39.000 The answer. 0.51

00:16:40.000 Has Chicago are the leaders of the Democrat Party focused or on black and BLM Incorporated and what's happening in Chicago?

00:16:48.000 There's been 246 people shot and killed in Chicago, 1,162 and 1,408 total shot and 263 total homicides. 0.90

00:16:57.000 And most of them, a vast majority, are black on black crimes. 0.88

00:17:02.000 Seems as if there's a great deal of silence from BLM Incorporated on that. 0.93

00:17:06.000 So Patrice Cullers has stepped down after the real estate spending spree has been revealed.

00:17:12.000 But the real question is this: Are we going to demand an actual, not even demand, where is the actual black liberation movement of strong families and better schools and safer streets?

00:17:23.000 That's something I could get behind.

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00:18:32.000 There is a population collapse happening in our country.

00:18:36.000 Americans are having less children.

00:18:37.000 Now, this is something that we did predict on our program.

00:18:40.000 We did a podcast last, I want to say July.

00:18:43.000 Yeah, I think it was July.

00:18:44.000 I remember I did it.

00:18:45.000 I did it in Aspen, Colorado.

00:18:47.000 When I read this story, I said, oh my goodness, this is stunning.

00:18:51.000 And I did this last July, where I realized that all the stats are showing that despite the lockdowns, America is on pace to have less children, a massive population collapse.

00:19:06.000 So why is it important to sustain a healthy birth rate?

00:19:12.000 Well, in order for a country to have its ability to replicate its values, its language, its culture, and its history, you need to keep on having children.

00:19:22.000 And so since Western society, I believe, has become too fixated on commercial society, the birth rate has gone down.

00:19:32.000 Children are an inconvenience for those parents that want to go on a vacation or have more leisure time or pursue their career.

00:19:41.000 All those things are very important, obviously.

00:19:44.000 However, when you have a declining birth rate and with that a declining marriage rate, you start to have very serious and some would say systemic issues.

00:19:54.000 And when those issues do not get addressed or they get ignored, well, then the question becomes, what do we do about that?

00:20:05.000 So the population collapse in the United States is very real.

00:20:11.000 We are seeing less boring Americans than ever before.

00:20:17.000 And yet there is a way to fix this.

00:20:21.000 There is a way to address this.

00:20:24.000 And so Europe has a very similar population collapse problem. 0.99

00:20:29.000 All throughout Europe, there has been this issue that we need to bring in more Arabs into Europe for cheap labor to buy our goods.

00:20:42.000 Yet there's a couple countries in Central and Eastern Europe that are actually bucking the trend.

00:20:50.000 Josh Hammer, who is the Newsweek opinion editor at Newsweek.com, recently went to Warsaw, Poland, and he talked extensively about how these two countries, despite them being labeled as authoritarian, Poland and Hungary, for example, are actually unafraid to talk about how the Western tradition of their cultural and national heritages are incredibly important.

00:21:19.000 Josh Hammer writes this.

00:21:21.000 These leaders, and he's saying of Poland and in Hungary, Viktor Orban, are unabashed about the superiority of their unique culture and national heritages over the Brussels-based European Union siren song, publicly defensive of the Judeo-Christian code and its manifest goodness, and unapologetically side with the United States over Russia and Israel over Hamas terrorists.

00:21:48.000 As the post-Trump American right continues to cohere and slowly find itself, it should look to modern Central and Eastern Europe to find some concrete pointers.

00:21:57.000 For instance, Josh Hammer writes, whereas these states properly guard their distinct nationalities, despite a past marked by frequent conflict, shifting borders and occupation by nefarious empires such as the Third Reich and the Soviet Union, American is concurrently in the throes of an invenerating identity crisis of 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory, inspired by racial fractiousness and national self-doubt, despite a history where some deeply lamentable pitfalls notwithstanding,

00:22:25.000 there is still far more to take pride in than to lament.

00:22:29.000 Americans can and should look eastward, past Paris and Berlin, obviously, of Macron and Merkel, for inspiration on how both substantive policy and even sheer rhetoric can help foster a culture of national pride and civic cohesion.

00:22:42.000 If Poland and Hungary can take pride in the distinct national identities and ways of life, despite everything this part of the world has suffered through, then surely Americans can do the same.

00:22:53.000 So some people are saying that Poland and Hungary are authoritarian.

00:22:58.000 That's just not true.

00:23:01.000 They are more in the Western tradition than some of the chaotic, quote-unquote, Western democracies that exist.

00:23:10.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:23:14.000 If you look at the birth rates in Hungary, Hungary stands out against a trend against their neighbors.

00:23:20.000 Between 2010 and 2017, marriage rates in the European Union remained static around 4.4 per 1,000 people per year.

00:23:28.000 Yet in Hungary, they rose from 3.6 to 5.2, an enormous rise of 45%.

00:23:34.000 In this time period, divorces also remained static in the European Union at 2 per 1,000 people, which means half of the marriages ended up in divorce.

00:23:42.000 Yet in Hungary, they fell from 2.4 to 1.9, a fall of 21%.

00:23:48.000 So the question is how and why?

00:23:52.000 Well, the answer is because Hungary decided to subsidize the things they wanted more of and penalize the things they did not like.

00:23:59.000 So they made it easier, financially easier, to have children in Hungary if you are married and if you share some form of a national ethic.

00:24:13.000 Now, this is at great opposition to the current orthodoxy that dominates American politics, which is otherwise known as neoliberalism, which is at any cost whatsoever to the national fabric, we must have unrestricted, unfettered trade policy that destroys your domestic manufacturing base and brings in cheap products from overseas because it's a massive labor arbitrage, it's a capital account surplus,

00:24:42.000 and we're bringing in a lot of cheap products, therefore we're going to get richer.

00:24:47.000 But even though we might be getting materially richer, which I don't think we are, but let's pretend we are, we're actually getting, I believe, socially, culturally, and spiritually poorer.

00:24:58.000 Neoliberalism also tells us, and I'm not totally indicting neoliberals, I'm not saying it's totally wrong.

00:25:03.000 I just think the over-ideological indulgence in that is actually very harmful.

00:25:10.000 So what is an ideology?

00:25:12.000 C.S. Lewis famously said an ideology or an ideologue is someone who takes one truth about the world and applies it to all of the world, which will descend you into madness.

00:25:23.000 For example, something that the neoliberals believe is that all trade is all the time always good.

00:25:30.000 Now, trade is good, but if you apply that one truth to all things always, then you are then going to be hiding behind ideology despite what be empirical with the empirical truth in front of you.

00:25:45.000 In neoliberalism, they also believe that mass immigration is always the solution.

00:25:51.000 They always look for mass immigration as solutions to everything.

00:25:54.000 So they say, well, Americans don't need to have more than one or two kids per family, no more four, five, or six kids per family, not even three or four on average, which is the healthiest, the healthy number, three or four. 0.87

00:26:05.000 Instead, we're going to bring in a bunch of foreigners to go do the jobs that we are not able to do, not that we don't want to do, but we're not able to do because we're not having enough children per family. 0.97

00:26:17.000 Now, immigration can, certain select types of immigrants, can be an asset to America. 1.00

00:26:24.000 Can be.

00:26:25.000 But if you act as if all throughout American history always had the same levels of immigration, you're fooling yourself.

00:26:32.000 Back in the 1950s and 60s, we had an American birth rate that was a multiple of our immigration rate. 0.74

00:26:40.000 And this pathological repetition of the incantation of mass immigration has been so harmful to the American worker and to the American way of life.

00:26:52.000 And so what Eastern Europe is doing is bucking the trend of neoliberalism ideology.

00:26:59.000 We are told that diversity is our strength.

00:27:01.000 I encourage all of you to check out liberal professor Jonathan Haidt, who says that Diversity has its costs, but the type of diversity that research actually shows is the most healthy type of diversity is ideological diversity, which is the very type of diversity that the left wants to destroy.

00:27:23.000 And that's Jonathan Haidt, who is the head of the Heterodox Academy.

00:27:26.000 Some people would call him a liberal.

00:27:28.000 I would call him a classical liberal. 0.95

00:27:30.000 So we have destroyed ideological diversity for the sake of cultural and racial diversity.

00:27:36.000 That doesn't make any sense at all.

00:27:38.000 What makes humanity interesting is not what you look like or where you're from necessarily, but what do you think?

00:27:46.000 That type of diversity is actually very healthy.

00:27:48.000 That type of diversity, hopefully, if it's done in a fair hearing and free hearing, the best ideas should win if you have some agreed upon moral and virtuous and historical foundations.

00:28:03.000 So how are we going to reverse the population collapse in our country?

00:28:07.000 One of two ways. 0.99

00:28:08.000 Either our government is going to get serious about supporting families and making it financially easier to have lots of children, or we're going to bring in another 900,000 people from Somalia.

00:28:19.000 I hate to be that binary about it, but the leaders in Washington, D.C. always seem to go back to mass immigration, not select or wise or prudent immigration policies. 0.56

00:28:30.000 Instead, they want mass immigration, the most amount of people possible.

00:28:35.000 And so I would argue that if the government does not have any sort of allegiance or any sort of focus on preserving the American nation, as we call the American country, not the American colony, then they are nothing more than a provisional temporary government serving the interests of maximizing profit and looking at America as just an island to go make as much money as possible and get out if we need to.

00:29:04.000 You see, the Hungarian government, who's been able to change this trend, they don't view it that way.

00:29:10.000 They say we want to have more children.

00:29:12.000 We believe Hungary is a wonderful country.

00:29:14.000 We believe we have a unique history and we want to preserve it.

00:29:18.000 If America did that, we would see a revival, the likes of which I don't think many of the people in the intelligentsia would ever think possible.

00:29:30.000 So there's a question, and we've been kind of playing with this a lot here on the Charlie Kirk show, of where should the conservative movement go from here?

00:29:38.000 And I'm seeing a resurgence of what could be called traditional conservatism.

00:29:42.000 I'm actually in belief of that.

00:29:45.000 And I've been reading a lot of Russell Kirk.

00:29:46.000 It's so funny here at Hillsdale College.

00:29:47.000 We just sat in on a course and they just happened to be reading Russell Kirk.

00:29:51.000 Any college that reads Russell Kirk, send your child to that college.

00:29:54.000 Or don't send them to college at all because there's not that many colleges.

00:29:56.000 So it's Hillsdale or Bust, the last college, as I'm wearing my Hillsdale College jacket.

00:30:02.000 But I want to talk a little bit about, in the couple minutes we have remaining here, email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com for this, is what should the conservative movement embrace?

00:30:11.000 And in a world that seems to be obsessed with this cult of progress, things changing for the sake of change, we have to be very firm on what Russell Kirk would call the 10 rules for conservatives.

00:30:23.000 I'm going to read these to you.

00:30:24.000 And this is a whole podcast for another time.

00:30:26.000 So if you're interested in this, make sure you check out the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:30:29.000 But I'm going to read through this and you should say, how often have you heard conservative or Republican politicians talk like this?

00:30:35.000 Number one, we must stand for an existing moral order.

00:30:38.000 Number two, we must distrust abstractions.

00:30:41.000 Prudence and pragmatism matters, not ideology.

00:30:44.000 Number three, variety and diversity is healthy if it's in accordance with your traditions and customs.

00:30:50.000 We must stand for justice, which means it's getting what you deserve, not taking from someone what they didn't do to someone where you think they should have.

00:30:56.000 Property and value are linked in one.

00:30:59.000 A market economy works.

00:31:01.000 Number six, power is likely abused.

00:31:04.000 Number seven, we need community.

00:31:07.000 Number eight, America should set an example, not remake other nations.

00:31:11.000 Amen.

00:31:12.000 Number nine, men and women are not perfectible.

00:31:14.000 We must limit this cult of progress, this idea of historicism, that we can liberate every group for the sake of liberating it.

00:31:22.000 Number nine, change, I mean, number ten, change and reform are not identical.

00:31:29.000 We must detest totalitarianism and socialism, which the current Republican Party does, but we also be very clear about what we stand for: the beautiful, the good, the wondrous, the true.

00:31:40.000 That we as conservatives are more than just a corporate handout party for Amazon.

00:31:46.000 But no, we want you to have big families.

00:31:48.000 We want those children that you have to love America again.

00:31:51.000 We want an America where you don't have to lock your doors, where you can work with your hands, where you don't have to worry about some corporate Titan like Mitt Romney coming in and shipping your manufacturing plant to Wuhan, China.

00:32:02.000 We want it to be that we only declare war when we know we can win and win quickly.

00:32:07.000 We want our immigration policy to put our workers first and not the interests of the opposition party that wants to use immigration for a political benefit.

00:32:16.000 This is very simple, and the rejection of ideology for the sake of ideology's sake is something that we should talk more about.

00:32:24.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:26.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:32:27.000 I just did that episode from Hillsdale College.

00:32:29.000 A great place, the Athens of the North.

00:32:31.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:34.000 If you want to support us, it's charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:32:37.000 God bless you guys.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 29, 2021

Central and Eastern Europe—Western Civilization’s Unlikely Ground Zero

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