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00:02:05.000We are seeing video clips that some folks have breached the Capitol's security parameters, which we do not support and we completely denounce and we think it's reprehensible.
00:02:16.000I'm not sure what's going on here, though.
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00:02:28.000Let's go back and see if we can hear anything from this kerfuffle on the House floor.
00:05:05.000So it looks as if the Senate and the House, they look a little bit confused, quite honestly.
00:05:10.000Just looks like the entire thing has gone.
00:05:13.000The Senate stands in recess subject to the call of the chair.
00:05:16.000What are we reading, Isabel, happening in real time?
00:05:18.000We're hearing that there's some evacuations of several buildings up on Capitol Hill.
00:05:22.000I'm not sure if that includes a lockdown of the Capitol building, where our members of the House and Senate currently are debating on the floor.
00:06:15.000When you don't allow the courts, when the courts don't take the case, when you've got the whole nation involved, when you've got multiple states suing other states, and they still don't take the case at the Supreme Court, a lot of this stuff could have been avoided.
00:06:28.000But regardless of that, I just pray at this point no one gets seriously hurt or injured.
00:06:34.000We're also hearing from our team that Vice President Pence has been evacuated from the Capitol building at this point.
00:06:39.000So it likely is correlated to a security breach there at the Capitol building.
00:06:44.000Well, we're going to continue to monitor this and look at this.
00:06:48.000And so as things continue to come in, what triggered all of this was the counting of the Arizona election results, which was being done thoughtfully and correctly.
00:06:59.000And some people that have a different view on how to, I don't know.
00:07:05.000They don't handle things correctly, resort to physical means, which is unfortunately not a thing.
00:08:22.000So it appears that that moment of confusion that we weren't really sure what happened a few minutes ago when we had a few people gaveled out in both the House and the Senate, that was because of the protesters breaching the Capitol.
00:08:33.000Security entered the room and encouraged everyone to stay sheltered in place there in the Capitol building.
00:08:39.000To my knowledge, the only person that's been evacuated from the Capitol has been Vice President Pence.
00:08:43.000Everyone else is sort of in a shelter-in-place situation.
00:08:46.000But several other buildings on Capitol Hill, mostly office buildings for our senators and representatives, have been evacuated.
00:10:02.000And so I pray this remains peaceful and that every single person there has some sort of self-control to not act like violent terroristic leftists.
00:10:17.000And look, we have been warning against this in a couple different ways.
00:10:20.000When you see the fraud, you see the irregularities, you see everything that is happening, and you see James Comey, you see all these people that go against the president, no one gets arrested.
00:10:30.000All of a sudden, people lose faith in that beautiful country and they lose faith in their government.
00:10:34.000And we have been warning against this, not supporting it, right?
00:10:38.000I don't support any of this, to be perfectly honest.
00:10:40.000The National Guard is going to come in now.
00:10:42.000Muriel Bowser is getting the D.C. National Guard in place.
00:10:48.000Unclear at this moment where they are, but.
00:10:50.000Can we enlarge the video, please, to the full screen or make it a little bit larger?
00:11:20.000Yeah, it looks like they're, I mean, if I had to interpret what they probably feel this is, it's the people taking their house back, their building back.
00:12:30.000What did the president just tweet, Andrew?
00:12:34.000Mike Pence, this is a quote: Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our Constitution, giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify.
00:13:47.000As soon as violence occurs, then it is a physical, it is a physical combat situation, and nothing good happens to that situation.
00:13:56.000What makes us different as human beings is our capacity to reason, have dialogue, and to be able to use facts and not have to go to just physical armed combat.
00:14:51.000Again, we're trying to be you know, we're trying to be very specific in how we're describing this.
00:14:57.000Because we do, if someone starts get very violent and all this, however, we have seen Democrats during the immigration fights, during the Kavanaugh fights, and other, and other, they have done many things like this where they peacefully go and occupy physical space.
00:15:13.000Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a tricky tightrope that we have to walk here, just from even just the language that we choose.
00:15:23.000So, again, understanding there is a massive amount of anger out there, and I think this is the manifestation of it, and this is the proof of it.
00:15:31.000And to pay no heed to this either would be wrong.
00:15:35.000Now, is it justifying confrontations with federal law enforcement?
00:16:07.000I just think this speaks so much to human nature in general.
00:16:10.000You know, you can't lock an entire country down or an entire state down and expect that there will be no ramifications for that decision and not expect a change in human beings.
00:16:20.000Insofar this is a patriotic display, so be it.
00:16:55.000We try to be the, we're trying to calm people down always.
00:16:59.000We were actually talking last night about we were gaming out what this next two years could look like, what the next four years could work, could look like.
00:17:06.000And, you know, Charlie, stop me if I'm talking out of school here, but the, you know, the idea of a dissolution of this country is not out of the realm of possibility.
00:17:18.000And I know that sounds crazy, but what we were talking about is more of could there be a peaceful sort of decoupling, right?
00:17:26.000That is one of the things that people have talked about.
00:17:30.000It was something that we're just playing out in sort of gaming it out in the next couple of years, four years, five years, if something doesn't change.
00:17:39.000What this is showing is that people are actually willing to get physical, at least to some level.
00:17:48.000I mean, let's not be hyperventilating about what we see here.
00:17:51.000At the same time, it is an escalation, certainly, of what people have been willing to do.
00:17:56.000We have warned against this, that if you tell people, as Senator Cruz said, to go jump in a lake and tell them they're stupid, there is not a massive bridge between shutting up an entire 74 million person body and some of those people not being able to take it anymore.
00:19:02.000And so it's like, again, conservatives shouldn't be doing this.
00:19:05.000But at the same time, if you drive any people group to their brink, if you're going to assume that there's not a certain small, and I think it's a small percentage at this point, but a percentage of those people that are ready for all-out physical conflict, maybe even taking this to a violent altercation level, then you would be naive to assume that there's not that part of this population.
00:19:38.000This is no different than the protesters that came in, the people that were doing sit-ins during the amnesty debates, the people that were doing the Kavanaugh demonstrations.
00:19:49.000Look at what happened with the BLM riots.
00:20:34.000I think a lot of this anger that we're talking about, too, isn't just a single moment of passion.
00:20:38.000Everybody's saying, let's go march to the Capitol building.
00:20:40.000I think this is a very big culmination of the last four years, people becoming more awakened to the fact that media, social media, in many cases, politicians are actively working against the will of the people and the passions and the things that drive the will of the people behind that.
00:20:56.000And so this isn't just a spur of the moment decision to have a big splash of 15 minutes of fame on TV.
00:21:02.000A lot of this is very deeply rooted anger and frustration in the way our country has been run for the last several decades.
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00:23:24.000Senator Tom Cotton has said, this violence is unacceptable and needs to be met with full force of law.
00:23:29.000God bless the Capitol Police who are keeping us safe.
00:23:33.000We have seen a couple, I think, barricades breached and a couple other things that are happening.
00:23:40.000And so, but we do, look, I don't want to rush to judgment.
00:23:43.000I wouldn't put it past the tactics of Antifa to change their paraphernalia or their physical aesthetic.
00:23:50.000Here's why I say that, though, is because this is not how Trump supporters don't act in a physical way.
00:23:55.000We have no track record of this at all whatsoever.
00:23:58.000I'm talking real Trump supporters in this.
00:24:00.000Yeah, now this forever, I hate to say it, but it pulls that argument away from us.
00:24:07.000At least it doesn't really, but it's going to be used.
00:24:11.000It's going to be used time and time again.
00:24:13.000So, and listen, I, for one, will be prepared to tell them all about the BLM and the Antifa protests that turned violent and burned down cities and city blocks.
00:24:23.000But now it's going to be a back and forth because they've got this footage to use.
00:24:27.000So, there is now tear gas in the Capitol Rotunda.
00:24:30.000The National Guard has been mobilized.
00:24:32.000I am sad to see this, to be honest with you.
00:24:37.000And our leaders and our rulers, unfortunately, are going to get away with it because the anger is quite honestly directed at their betrayal of their promise to the Constitution and our people.
00:26:32.000But at the same time, you're crazy if you didn't think that this was somewhat expected.
00:26:36.000Here is why physical violence, in my opinion, is never the answer.
00:26:39.000This is the Malcolm X versus the Martin Luther King Jr. perspective, is because as soon as you resort to physical violence, there's no way to mitigate that difference until one person surrenders or they're no longer capable of being able to live.
00:26:57.000I mean, that's how physical violence ends.
00:27:00.000That's how human beings used to settle differences for thousands of years.
00:27:03.000What made the Western civilization different and the Constitutional Republic, which we're fighting for today, which is the great irony of it, is you solve your differences with arguments, with persuasion, right?
00:27:12.000So human beings, according to Aristotle, are the speaking beings.
00:27:16.000So there's only two ways to govern people.
00:27:18.000The two ways to govern people are by speaking persuasion.
00:27:21.000We talk about this all the time on our podcast, or by force.
00:27:24.000Well, they've been governing by force the last couple years.
00:28:43.000And so this is a sad day to see this go this way.
00:28:50.000And this is what John Nolte has said, which is a provocative take, sort of.
00:28:56.000Look what happens after the media and Democrats tell us over and over for four years that violence and undermining elections is acceptable.
00:29:03.000You can't make rules for just one side.
00:29:04.000The media and the Democrats built this, and someone responded, and I agree with her.
00:29:08.000I don't agree with it, but you are absolutely correct.
00:29:11.000And so this just then from Jake Sherman, quote, there's an armed standoff at the House front door.
00:29:17.000Police officers have their guns drawn at someone who is trying to reach the front door.
00:29:21.000I am going to take all of this with a grain of salt, meaning whatever I want to see video evidence behind this idea.
00:29:29.000I think their idea of an armed standoff might be different than mine.
00:29:35.000So it'll be very interesting once this gets cleared up.
00:29:41.000And so, you know, once this gets cleared up, it'll be interesting to see if the Senate continues to debate.
00:29:49.000So what are we looking at, Andrew or Isabel?
00:29:52.000You know, it's unclear when they're going to reconvene.
00:29:55.000If they are today, I know, you know, constitutionally and legally speaking, they have the capacity to have this debate for several days.
00:30:01.000There's really no specific timeline before inauguration day that they would have to finish things up.
00:30:06.000So if things have to be prolonged quite a bit for a few hours or for the rest of the day, that's certainly possible under the legal standing that we do have.
00:30:30.000Looks a lot like Lehmiz on Broadway if you guys.
00:30:34.000Yeah, I mean, we're seeing a lot of that across the conversation is that a lot of people are saying, I never thought I'd see this in America.
00:30:41.000I think some of that stuff is overblown, though.
00:32:01.000So people are saying on the ground that this place, it's kind of nuts.
00:32:07.000It does look like there's a lot of just people that are peacefully just standing there and exercising their First Amendment rights.
00:32:16.000And so emergency alert Mayor Bowser issues a citywide curfew for D.C. for Wednesday, January 6th, starting at 6 p.m. until Thursday, January 7th.
00:32:25.000And so there is a curfew that's been put in place.
00:32:29.000And so there is a looks like the barring of the doors has happened there.
00:32:35.000And we're going to continue to monitor this as it happens in real time.
00:32:43.000Stunned, to say the least, that a lot of this has come to this.
00:32:47.000So this is what, again, this is what happens when you call half the country reprehensible and deplorable and all this.
00:32:55.000And stupid, and you have no standing, and you underestimate how people feel about certain situations.
00:33:03.000And so we have a couple people on the ground that we're going to try to get on the phone here as we monitor this.
00:33:08.000And unfortunately, a lot of this, a lot of these issues here could have been prevented.
00:33:15.000It could have been prevented if the House would have actually allowed investigations and debate into this over the last couple of months since early November.
00:33:26.000You guys can email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:29.000And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com slash support.
00:33:36.000Jayden has asked us, Charlie, these liberals are posing as Trump supporters.
00:33:50.000Once you resort to violence, can you tell me exactly your plan to make it stop?
00:33:55.000And that's the whole point of violence: you kind of lose all of your faculties, and quite honestly, you then with it lose any sort of binds that tie you together.
00:34:06.000And that has always been what has differentiated the idea of Western civilization and a constitutional republic from the third world, quite honestly.
00:34:18.000Isabel, what's your analysis on all of this?
00:34:20.000You know, it's hard for me to be surprised by some sort of manifestation of the frustration that we've been seeing over the last year, frankly, four years, but particularly in the last 12 months.
00:34:30.000Because when you couple the left's intense sphere of influence culturally and through government agencies with the fact that people have been isolated from everything they know, they're forbidden from going to their jobs, they're forbidden from going to school, they can't gather with their friends and family members, they're not even supposed to look people in their full face anymore because we have to cover up half of our face all the time.
00:34:50.000You see a very rapid degradation of society as we know it, and human nature starts to come out.
00:34:55.000People need community, people need a venue to share their frustration and to share the things that they're feeling about our free country.
00:35:03.000When you take that away, no longer do we live in a free country, and that's the sound of the future.
00:35:42.000I'm telling you right now, that's what's going to happen.
00:35:44.000Unlike BLM and all these other people where they get parking tickets and released out of prison, they're going to throw the FBI and the DOJ on every single one of these people.
00:38:45.000We have a legal structure to deal with the ramifications of this election, assuming enough people are willing to be bold and speak up within that structure.
00:38:52.000So hopefully we can get back to a return to that.
00:38:55.000My hope is that whatever potential violence may be happening on Capitol Hill dwindles out very quickly.
00:39:00.000If you are a part of that, we are urging you to stop being a part of that.
00:39:04.000That's not speaking to who we are and what we believe in.
00:39:07.000But hopefully we can get this resolved here.
00:39:09.000Well, Elijah Schaefer, I hope he has a very good attorney.
00:39:14.000So Elijah Schaefer has tweeted, breaking, I am inside Nancy Pelosi's office with thousands of revolutionaries who have stormed the building.
00:39:20.000To put that into perspective, how quickly staff evacuated, emails are still on screen alongside a federal alert warning members of the current revolution.
00:40:16.000Aaron Davis has said a source tells me the Department of Defense has just denied a request by D.C. officials to deploy the National Guard to the U.S. Capitol.
00:40:25.000That should put probably a factual nuance on here that it's not nearly as, I don't want to say chaotic as they might make it.
00:40:34.000I mean, I'm trying to avoid hyperventilating language here on purpose because it's exactly what the left would want everybody to do.
00:40:42.000And listen, all I'm seeing is people occupying the space.
00:41:45.000Ashley is going to be calling in here from the front lines, which is so, I mean, look, it looks like kind of an Occupy thing.
00:41:55.000And of course, the left completely supported Occupy Wall Street, right, and Occupy whatever.
00:42:01.000It seems, and it is the people's house, but insofar that people are going into offices and looking at emails and smashing windows and barricades, I will not put my support behind any such physical retaliation.
00:42:14.000I think Eli would say he's just following the crowd and reporting to provide video footage.
00:42:21.000I don't know what he's, I don't want to imply.
00:42:24.000I'm just saying I hope he has a good lawyer because they're going to come after everyone who's there right now.
00:42:28.000I would tell you, there's not a whole heck of a lot of sympathy across the zeitgeist right now for these folks.
00:42:39.000I see you guys in our chats defending everybody here.
00:42:43.000Some of you are defending, I should say.
00:42:45.000Well, I think the proper blame needs to be placed on our leaders that have betrayed the American people for so long and have created, have basically denied any form of a pressure release valve in our country.
00:42:58.000And I keep using the word abdicated when it comes to our courts.
00:43:01.000Our leaders have abdicated their responsibility.
00:43:06.000What else has happened is we've been silenced.
00:43:10.000And I think this idea that dialogue is no longer protected in this country, freedom of speech is no longer protected.
00:43:16.000It's sort of like First Amendment name only as well.
00:43:19.000But in all practice, Finos and Rhinos.
00:43:25.000But in all seriousness, I mean, when you give away so much power to these corporations that then become more powerful than your federal government in certain aspects, and they control more of the information that we share, and then they exert that control in a censorial way, I mean, don't be surprised when these release valves get released.
00:43:44.000Again, not condoning it, but I'm also understanding.
00:43:47.000But just from a historical, this is a predictable outcome.
00:44:48.000By the way, the fact they didn't arrest any of the people that went to Josh Hawley's home, yet they are going to charge every one of these people for federal terrorism charges.
00:47:16.000I'm not sure exactly in the building, but outside there was a flare that went up, and there are people scaling the building and going through the doors.
00:47:24.000Ashley, what are you hearing from people on the ground?
00:47:26.000What's the general sentiment of the people who've gathered outside the Capitol?
00:47:32.000The general sentiment is that most of these people are shocked that this is happening in the first place.
00:47:38.000And a lot of people are just very discontent with what's going on in the country.
00:49:42.000I disagree with any physical violence is always wrong.
00:49:47.000You know, these people breaking down windows into the Capitol building, going in.
00:49:52.000Again, but it's an expression of the angst that's been building up for years now, but especially since November 3rd.
00:50:00.000You know, I remember that moment, and we had to deal with it on this show directly when YouTube basically said, oh, December 14th, that's our deadline.
00:50:12.000And we're going to turn off any feeds that now talk about voter fraud.
00:50:18.000This is the, you know, YouTube is not only a massive video site, the number one video site in the world, it's also the second largest search site in the world.
00:51:05.000I mean, frankly, we shouldn't have had to, and it was a travesty.
00:51:07.000And it's degrading to even have to sort of work around such laws.
00:51:12.000I mean, we're starting to put all of our content up on Rumble as well because of certain things, and they're going to start streaming soon.
00:51:18.000So hopefully that becomes a viable competitor, and we're certainly there to help support it.
00:51:22.000But nevertheless, those types of things are profound.
00:51:26.000Those types of changes in our society are profound, and they're happening at breakneck speed.
00:51:31.000And I think human beings are not designed to adapt and change to societal changes this fast.
00:51:37.000And this is what you're seeing this convulsive moment happen.
00:51:40.000So you guys can email us your thoughts of what you're seeing, what you're hearing.
00:51:43.000And I want to know if you agree or disagree with what's happening here, because a lot of people are emailing us, cheering this on, which I'm surprised about.
00:51:50.000But email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:53:09.000A lot of this, I think, is just a culmination of not having an outlet and not having a venue to express frustrations of how dramatically the world has changed in the last 12 months.
00:53:19.000Not only do we see an assault on free speech online, but also we're prevented from literally gathering with one another one-on-one to talk about our frustration now because of COVID-19 regulations, not being able to go to work, not being able to go to school, not having friends and family over for holidays or gatherings on weekends.
00:53:35.000So we've completely bottled up every individual's frustration without an outlet for it to be released.
00:53:41.000So naturally, speaking to human behavior, we're going to see frustrations rise.
00:53:45.000We're going to see tension culminate in something like this.
00:53:50.000We should absolutely all be collectively condemning any violence that may or may not be happening at the Capitol building today.
00:53:56.000But people need an opportunity to speak their mind.
00:53:58.000And frankly, that is the value that our country was founded on, that each individual has a role to play in society and that they have something to say when it comes to where our culture should be moving forward.
00:54:09.000The predominant emails that we've been getting, freedom at charliekirk.com is not supporting this.
00:54:14.000They are saying that it's mostly Antifa.
00:54:17.000There are some people that are saying that they support the violence and you're entitled to that opinion.
00:54:26.000But that is not a viewpoint that I have at all whatsoever.
00:54:30.000Let's get this photo up on the stream.
00:54:32.000It looks like federal law enforcement with guns drawn through the...
00:54:37.000That's absolutely in the chamber itself.
00:54:38.000So they're breaking windows into the chamber.
00:54:40.000Yeah, breaking windows into the chamber.
00:54:42.000It looks like they had their guns drawn.
00:54:44.000We're getting lots of feedback here, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:54:47.000And if you want to support, how long have we been here?
00:54:49.000We've been here for four hours already, four or five.
00:57:33.000You know, there were some incredible constitutional scholars, Mike Johnson, making a case about contesting this election based on constitutional merits.
00:57:44.000Many elections have been contested over the years, very normal circumstances.
00:57:48.000Then we started hearing a ruckus outside.
00:57:50.000We saw that the Capitol Police was getting a little restless.
00:57:53.000You could tell just using situational awareness.
00:57:57.000And then they came and said they started locking the doors to the House chamber and said, hey, we're going to keep you all here.
00:58:02.000There's some people who have broke through the first few lines of security, and they are now on the House steps, which leads directly into the Capitol building.
00:58:10.000After that point, we then had somebody come in.
00:58:14.000They told us to prepare to put on our hazmat suits and escape hoods, which because they started firing tear gas to try and disperse this crowd that had made it into the Capitol Rotunda, the beautiful iconic image everybody knows.
00:58:29.000And then some people made it into Statuary Hall, which is literally just on the other side of the door of the House chamber.
00:58:36.000And this is a very rowdy crowd, very intent on violence, chanting that they wanted to stop the steal.
00:58:43.000But Charlie, if it's coming from me, I believe that this was agitators strategically placed inside of this group.
00:58:51.000You can call them people paid by the Democratic machine.
00:58:54.000But to make the Trump campaign, the Trump movement look bad and to make this look like it was a violent outrage when really the battle was being fought by people like myself and other great patriots who were standing up against the establishment, standing up against this tyranny that we see in our country.
00:59:11.000And then we were evacuated completely and moved very fast.
00:59:15.000I've got to give a big shout out to Congressman Richard Hudson, Congressman Ted Budd.
00:59:20.000They did an incredible job of assisting me down the stairways, assisting me through the waste.
00:59:23.000So those two men are heroes, and I really do appreciate them.
00:59:27.000The Capitol Police is trying to get everything under control.
00:59:41.000Wait, can I stop you just for one second?
00:59:43.000You're saying you personally have heard multiple shots?
00:59:46.000Because of the partisan divide that we have in this country, because of the national parties on either side, and that's Republican and Democrat.
00:59:54.000These people who are trying to divide America so that they can garner power for themselves.
00:59:59.000You see what this harvest, what we are reaping that has been sowed for the last several decades.
01:00:06.000Charlie, I think that's why you started Turning Point USA.
01:00:10.000It was to make America look like America again, look like a country where we can have an honest discourse of difficult ideas to have without having to resort to violence.
01:00:19.000If we continue going down this path of debauchery, of tyranny and corruption that the Democrats are taking us down, then my friend, I'll tell you, we're going to see bloodshed in our country very soon.
01:00:28.000And that is something that I just am sickened to think about.
01:00:33.000And, Madison, I agree with your analysis on this.
01:00:35.000And when the Supreme Court doesn't take up decisions, when state legislatures don't take up decisions, when we're kicked off of social media and you insult half the country, an awful result of that is violence.
01:02:28.000I will say I can't really speak to the latter half of that.
01:02:32.000The Capitol Police was very heads up, and I was so focused on the constitutional argument we were making on the House floor that we were evacuating very quickly.
01:02:41.000And so I did not see the protester myself, but I'll tell you, after reviewing video footage that we've been sent from Capitol Police and we're seeing on Twitter or Instagram, you can tell that a lot of these people in here are, there's just a violent, you know, I call them, you know, a dirty dozen, dirty couple dozen.
01:04:05.000You ran for office as a renegade, and now you are rightfully placing the blame of all this outrage and all of this anger at the political parties.
01:04:53.000You hear this from our founding fathers.
01:04:54.000When you are not being adequately represented, it creates frustration and agitation within the populace.
01:05:00.000And that's what I believe is going on in the Republican Party right now.
01:05:03.000There is a contingent of what I would say patriots.
01:05:06.000The overwhelming majority of Republicans are what I would call patriots.
01:05:10.000But unfortunately, because of the way this partisan two-party system has been set up, there's some people who've been playing the power games.
01:05:20.000Normally, you have to be part of the establishment to be able to get elected.
01:05:23.000And so you have these establishment pawns who are being elected who are not adequately representing the American people.
01:05:30.000And because of that, you see this frustration and fury that has been building up for the last several decades.
01:05:36.000And so, you know, the people are hungry for fighters.
01:05:38.000The people are hungry for people who are going to stand up.
01:05:41.000People feel like their election has been stolen from them.
01:05:43.000They feel like there has been so much fraud.
01:05:45.000They feel like the Constitution was violated.
01:05:48.000It's very, very clear in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution that only state legislatures can determine the manner and the means by which we are supposed to elect our national electors who elect the president.
01:06:01.000And when you see that being violated by just city clerks or by these Democrats who unilaterally, whether it's a governor or secretary of state, who unilaterally make decisions to circumvent the state legislatures, you can see that the American people are hungry to have politicians who are going to stand up and fight for them.
01:06:20.000And so then when they look to the Republican Party, when I am literally last night up until about 11 p.m. having to roam the halls of the Senate office building trying to find a senator to stand up with the gall to actually stand up to this election fraud, the American people are frustrated.
01:06:35.000So, if we had people who actually represented what Americans were feeling, you would not see this frustration and fury within the American populace.
01:06:44.000You were rolling around yesterday, people were saying, you know, with your titanium spine, literally and metaphorically, trying to get a senator to help agree to that.
01:07:01.000You're fighting for this country more than people that have been there for a couple of decades.
01:07:04.000Tell us your experience yesterday, and how does that manifest into some of this nonsense that we're seeing right now?
01:07:12.000You know, I'll tell you, there are great leaders.
01:07:15.000Him and I don't always see eye to eye, but Jim Jordan is someone who stood up courageously.
01:07:19.000Andy Biggs, someone who stands up courageously, Lauren Boebert, Brian McDonald's.
01:07:24.000But save the courageous few, people like Mike Johnson, who I greatly look up to, save those courageous few.
01:07:29.000People in Congress, I would say, have a notable lack of courage.
01:07:34.000And that's what my comms people will tell me to say: is say that they have a deficit of courage.
01:07:39.000But I'll say it more plainly: that there is cowardice within the Constitution within the institution of the Congress.
01:07:47.000And so, my experience here is that there is a lot of laziness, there is a lot of cowardice.
01:07:52.000And what we need to do is we need to have people who are going to come here.
01:07:55.000You know, we are about to, this is one of the most important days in our nation's history, what's going on today, January 6th.
01:08:01.000And the fact that I was the last person in all of Congress to be at my office is ridiculous.
01:08:07.000We should have all been working through the night, burning the candle on both ends, trying to make sure that we had a sound constitutional argument for this rather than just spewing conspiracy theories.
01:09:09.000Yeah, and just a quick note on that: that, you know, obviously it looks like the vast majority of these folks are relatively peaceful.
01:09:18.000They're just standing, occupying the steps.
01:09:20.000But there are now reports that one woman, we showed the clip just a second ago, getting wheeled out on a stretcher.
01:09:27.000It does look like she is in critical condition.
01:09:31.000Not sure what the context obviously was of that, but she's been shot in the chest, critical condition.
01:09:37.000And I think, you know, what's interesting about this, we talk about the crazy history of America, that a lot of times we tend to sanitize and whitewash.
01:09:45.000You know, I think the last time, though, that the Capitol building was breached was probably, I mean, and please, audience, fact-check me on this, is 1812, the War of 1812.
01:09:56.000So this is, well, look, I just want to be very honest with everyone watching here.
01:10:05.000The 1% of people that are emailing this, do you think this is really, this is like the lefts, this is their highlight reel they're going to use against us for the rest of our life?
01:10:14.000And it just, this is going to, it just moves back years of work we have tried to do about how we are the ones that resort to speech and not physical violence.
01:10:25.000And people say, well, it's time to take our country back.
01:10:27.000Well, then you're calling for an all-out civil war if that's what you're calling for.
01:10:31.000And no, that is not, that is not what we support here on this program at all whatsoever.
01:10:35.000Well, and again, that's the vast minority of people, but I just feel a great need to say that.
01:10:40.000There's a lot of blame that could be placed in a lot of places here, but I will say that this is what happens when you, you know, the elites in Washington, especially left of center, gave a wink and a nod when there was serious violence, BLM, Antifa raging in the streets, and there was a complete lack of condemnation.
01:11:01.000I will tell you that across right-wing media sphere, there's almost complete and utter condemnation from everybody of any of the violence, of any breaking of laws.
01:11:11.000So we did not see that same kind of condemnation across the board.
01:11:15.000Let's look at some footage here of this is the window getting broken.
01:12:10.000I want you to imagine for a second, just to be philosophically consistent, if this was Black Lives Matter, do you think that we would be denouncing this right now?
01:12:19.000I mean, seriously, if this was BLM Incorporated and they were knocking down windows, do you think we'd be calling for their arrests, knocking down windows and all that?
01:13:25.000That you're all going to get arrested and you're all going to be tried for federal terrorism charges and you might go to Guantanamo and obey.
01:14:07.000Well, actually, there's a way to do the opposite of that as well.
01:14:09.000If you look at the framework for the Convention of States idea to call another constitutional convention, theoretically, you could also expel a state that you feel no longer falls into the culture of the United States of America.
01:14:20.000So I think there's multiple avenues for that to become within the realm of possibility here in the next few months and years.
01:14:26.000And look, again, I want to say why is this happening?
01:14:30.000Happening because normal people, because people that love their country, the pressure release valves that were built for them no longer work.
01:15:15.000I mean, basically, the same, you know, a lot of people are calling for the president to get on the, you know, get in, get on TV, get in front of the camera and condemn this.
01:15:25.000He's issued a couple of tweets already saying keep everybody safe, support the Capitol Police.
01:15:32.000You know, I think that it's naive to think that he's not going to shoulder a significant amount of the ire that is flung after, you know, in the hours that follow here, he's going to receive a lot of that.
01:15:47.000But at the same time, you know, precedent would say that we were able to keep safe in one of these.
01:15:54.000We were able to keep things orderly, especially all protests on the right have always been pretty orderly.
01:16:01.000Well, that's why this is an outlier, which very well could be agitators infiltrating and people trying to use the emotions that you guys know that they know is out there and try to manifest that into something that's not.
01:16:13.000Remember, the agitators on the left, they're very good at what they do.
01:16:39.000Please email us in real time, freedom at charliekirk.com.
01:16:42.000And again, the one thing that's going to frustrate me, though, and it's probably going to frustrate a lot of people in our audience, is that the media spin on this, again, you're not hearing anybody condone this.
01:17:14.000That this is like Charlottesville times 100 negative for the conservative movement.
01:17:19.000This is going to put the conservative movement back.
01:17:22.000I am now going to have years of work when I go to college campuses persuading people that we're the people of speech and of tolerance and trying to hear the other side.
01:17:32.000But I mean, I will tell you that when BLM and when Antifa were rioting and burning, all we heard was mostly peaceful protests, mostly peaceful protests, mostly peaceful protests.
01:19:02.000For those of you that are emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com that are supporting it and saying that they are now prepping for a civil war.
01:19:09.000Andrew, this media spin on what's happening is already done.
01:19:12.000I mean, frankly, the word terrorists is the number one trending word on Twitter right now.
01:19:16.000You're seeing the editor at large for our friends over at Media Matters literally tweeting four minutes ago, Josh Hawley, Senator Josh Hawley, is a terrorist.
01:19:27.000Well, media managers can go pound Sam.
01:19:29.000Of course, I'm going to agree on that.
01:19:31.000But the reality is the cat's out of the bag here.
01:19:33.000I think we're going to be able to do it.
01:19:34.000No, yeah, the narrative writes itself.
01:19:36.000I mean, you don't have to be a communications whiz to understand what's already going on.
01:19:41.000Look, this is from a source that I really trust.
01:19:43.000As I'm watching it continue to unfold, I'm pretty sure that Antifa infiltrated the Patriot groups today and as part of the color revolution script, where their goal is to get us into a civil war.
01:19:52.000I really don't think the Patriots would incite the violence that you're seeing right now.
01:19:56.000That's from a source that I really trust.
01:20:34.000Instead, we've seen the opposite of Trump's supporters being pummeled and being attacked and all of it.
01:20:39.000And then you might have some people that are on the edges that all of a sudden, you know.
01:20:45.000And the vast majority are literally just standing there with flags waving, taking back the house for the first time.
01:20:50.000Well, can we just have a little bit of levity?
01:20:52.000Please, Kyle Khashuv has tweeted out: Pelosi's schedulers have an entire section dedicated for her hair appointments because people have just assumed control of Pelosi's computer.
01:21:03.000I guess it's the people's house, right?
01:23:17.000This does not represent all Trump supporters, and yet they will use it to tar and feather all of us.
01:23:24.000From sources I am hearing and seeing outside of some of the emails that I'm getting that are calling for a civil war, which I'm going to just continue to just kind of swat down because I just feel a moral obligation to do that.
01:23:34.000It seems like the predominant viewpoint right now is that this was left-wing, potentially left-wing agitators that infiltrated into this.
01:23:43.000So the gunshot, how does that make any sense?
01:23:50.000I mean, if you're in with a bunch of protesters that are your people, why would you be shooting at each other?
01:25:06.000So email us your questions as it's happening in real-time freedom at charliekirk.com.
01:25:10.000I would not be surprised that this is a psyops operation from left-wing agitators that are playing off of the understandable frustration from Trump supporters, got them worked up, and then people act and work emotionally.
01:25:48.000If past is prologue, you know, you think about the night of the RNC, the final night, where you had Senator Rand Paul getting accosted in the streets.
01:25:58.000This is the type of behavior that we've come to expect from left and right.
01:26:35.000I'm going to withhold judgment because to Charlie's point, it does not fit the fact pattern.
01:26:39.000I have said this, though, and this only goes and shows my argument.
01:26:43.000And some of you that are very angry emailing us freedom at CharlieKirk.com, they'll at least agree at this, which this only goes to show that we are headed for a national divorce very soon.
01:26:52.000There is nothing that there's very little that unites someone from Kansas than someone from San Francisco.
01:27:09.000We've been talking about this for quite some time, and this only goes to show that we are, you know, we are headed in that direction, unfortunately, very, very soon.
01:27:19.000And it's because our leaders have done such a terrible job governing our country.
01:27:23.000Jack Pisovic said, CNN will be playing these clips back for the next 10 years.
01:28:09.000I remember being afraid in my home because there was a riot down the street.
01:28:15.000And we were being told there were reports that Antifa was going to be, and BLM were going to be coming for us in the suburbs, and they were going to bring it to everybody's neighborhoods.
01:28:25.000You know, there was legitimate in June, remember back, it was legitimately a terrifying moment in the country.
01:30:19.000There was a lot of debate about what the vice president's powers constitutionally are.
01:30:25.000We found out during the president's speech this morning, he rallied a bunch of people right in front of the White House, hundreds of thousands of people listening to him speak.
01:30:35.000While he was speaking, the vice president issued a statement that said he had searched the Constitution, he had studied history, and decided that he did not have the constitutional power to unilaterally reject or accept votes.
01:30:50.000His role, in other words, was mostly ceremonial, but he would allow for the objections to be heard in a reasonable manner.
01:30:56.000So here we are: Alabama, Alaska go by, no con contest.
01:31:29.000So we have Cruz, we have Gosser, and we have 60 other members of the House that join Representative Gosser in challenging Arizona's election results and the electors.
01:32:24.000We were hearing reports of a bomb threat.
01:32:26.000We were also hearing that protesters, call them domestic terrorists, if you want, rule breakers, lawbreakers, had stormed and breached the outer perimeter of the Capitol building.
01:32:40.000There had been apparently three sets of barricades.
01:32:43.000They had stormed them all, breached them all.
01:32:45.000And we were starting to get reports of conflict with the Capitol police, pushing, shoving, batons drawn.
01:32:53.000Then it started getting even more intense.
01:33:29.000Maybe give some credence to the idea that there are conflicting factions within these people that have stormed the Capitol, potentially even Antifa themselves.
01:34:16.000The president, I think it's worth saying, has issued at least three tweets that I've seen condemning the violence and standing in solidarity with the Capitol police.
01:34:25.000I think that's where we're at, certainly.
01:34:27.000Some people are calling for him to get on TV and do it in person.
01:34:31.000If that holds symbolic significance, I think that's a fair point.
01:34:44.000I'm not saying I support this, but I'm saying that this is not anything that is necessarily unprecedented in civilizational terms, where you have 10 or 12 states that say to the other 30 states, look, we're going to govern ourselves.
01:34:56.000And it just becomes kind of like a Canada-U.S. relationship where you're not enemies.
01:35:01.000It's just kind of, we're going to do our own tax policy, our own policy on certain issues.
01:35:38.000And we've said that in a variety of different ways.
01:35:40.000And so, look, the long and short of it is this, is that the reason this is all happening is because you have to have a country that is unified on shared history.
01:36:52.000And so, and some people are saying, Charlie, they're emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com, that things are not as easy with that potential national divorce idea.
01:37:02.000I'm saying that the country's separating and fracturing very quickly.
01:37:07.000But I actually am of the belief right now that more people are of agreement to actually want to have constitutional civil ways to actually end our differences than this.
01:37:23.000And so what are we looking at, Andrew?
01:37:25.000I'm just, there's a conversation going on specifically about this guy.
01:37:29.000So there's an image from somewhere within the Capitol of the Let's get this up on the screen.
01:39:01.000Well, what we've been talking about, too, is that the pattern of behavior just doesn't line up.
01:39:04.000There's zero history of this type of behavior that we've seen at any even very large event in favor of the president in the last few years.
01:39:13.000Meanwhile, even just this week, we saw very extreme behavior at the home of Senator Josh Hawley from Antifa right there in Washington, D.C.
01:39:19.000So I'm hesitant to place blame on Trump supporters, as many people have been doing, all of our blue check mark friends on social media and on cable news, but we just don't know.
01:40:00.000If you wanted to disrupt the proceedings, what better plan than to cause chaos?
01:40:03.000I fully believe this is Antifa posing as Trump supporters that started this attack, praying that they are exposed and the truth be known as soon as possible.
01:40:11.000It seems that is a predominant viewpoint amongst a lot of people we're talking to, that there's something here that isn't right.
01:40:32.000So we're continuing to monitor this situation.
01:40:35.000It looks like there are people that are outside of the Congress, outside of the House and the Senate that are just waving flags and that are just kind of watching the situation.
01:40:45.000And it seems as if there is an additional, you see that in the bottom left-hand of your screen right there, the hammer and sickle kind of imagery there, which very well might be a leftist infiltration into that.
01:42:04.000Shoot the protesters, waive the rules, impeach, waive the rules, convict, waive the rules, deny the ability to run for election again.
01:42:12.000I'm not sure what the heck that means, but Eric Erickson is allegedly a conservative from Georgia who has had the opportunity.
01:42:19.000He actually hosted the vice president once at one of his events.
01:42:22.000I don't know where his head's at on that.
01:42:26.000What I will not stand idly by and put up with is this kind of crap where conservatives feigned a little bit of being upset at BLM and Antifa, and yet before they even know if it's the right, they rail on it like it's the end of the world because it's much more fun to beat up on conservatives.
01:42:47.000They get to get in on the game too, I guess.
01:43:06.000I'm going to wait for the facts to come in, and I'm going to condemn the fact that you're going to be able to make a general rule of thumb is I don't support when you start smashing windows at the U.S. Congress.
01:43:14.000General rule of thumb, but I'm also not going to say, oh, waive the rules.
01:43:27.000If they wanted to do the Martin Luther King doctrine, let's pretend this is not agitators.
01:43:31.000Let's pretend this is Trump supporters, which I'm not even willing to concede, but let's pretend it is.
01:43:35.000Then they could have done the Martin Luther King thing.
01:43:37.000They could have blocked the street and all took the arrest.
01:43:41.000They could have done something that is not necessarily violent, but was disruptive.
01:43:46.000They could have, that's a Martin Luther King playbook, but you take the punishment.
01:43:50.000You get arrested and you take the punishment.
01:43:52.000The more pseudo-insurrectionist way to do it, I hate using that word, is you start physically taking over, smashing windows, and causing physical harm, right?
01:44:02.000If there would have been 100,000 Trump supporters that went into Pennsylvania Avenue and sat down and then would have demanded to be arrested and they don't hurt anybody, that's called civil disobedience.
01:44:13.000You have to be willing to be arrested for it, though.
01:44:17.000No, no, I'm saying that's a diff, that's different.
01:44:19.000This is a completely different playbook.
01:44:22.000When you start smashing windows and weapons start getting drawn, look, and that's where the left has been able to perfect it in a lot of different ways, right?
01:45:03.000But they were allowed to enter during all the Kavanaugh stuff.
01:45:05.000Remember all the interruptions that happened during that?
01:45:07.000They had to barricade up, which is what it was.
01:45:08.000The point is this, is that if you're really saying, like, let's go Martin Luther King, let's do all of that, then you need to do something.
01:45:17.000The doctrine of civil disobedience, written by either Thoreau or Emerson, one of the two, you must choose something that does not harm another person.
01:45:25.000That is part of the doctrine of civil disobedience, right?
01:45:27.000And then you must be willing to accept the punishment.
01:45:39.000But if 10,000 Trump supporters were like, you know what, we are going to sit in the street and we're going to delay traffic, but you are going to have to arrest us, that's under the doctrine of Martin Luther King civil disobedience, right?
01:46:04.000But the left tried to claim it, but then the left progressed beyond the value system of Martin Luther King and stopped caring about his famous speech that says, I don't want my children to be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
01:48:23.000I'm saying all of a sudden when you start to physically put yourself into a building and you put other people's potentially lives at danger, that's really big.
01:49:03.000Okay, let's play this one right here of these people that are on scaffolding outside the U.S. Senate banging on windows.
01:49:09.000Let's play this tape right here of, do we have that one?
01:49:13.000It's in the chat, Connor, if we can get that one queued up right there.
01:49:17.000So the general chatter and what a lot of you are saying, freedom at charliekirk.com, emailing us, is that this feels as if this was a psyops operation from the left.
01:49:42.000So because you're calling for a civil war, tell me specifically what that looks like, what you're willing to do, and kind of the sacrifices that you're willing to make and how success looks at there.
01:49:53.000Again, I understand that frustrations are high, but I feel a moral obligation every time one of these things pops up to cross-examine and just talk down this kind of nonsense that happens.
01:50:58.000Joe Biden is going to be talking in a minute here, and he will use this as justification to increase the police state surveillance if he becomes president of the United States.
01:51:18.000He's saying at this hour, our democracy is to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution and demand an end to this siege, to storm the Capitol, to smash windows, to occupy offices.
01:51:38.000This floor of the United States Senate rummaging through desks on the Capitol, on the House of Representatives, threatening the safety of duly elected officials.
01:51:57.000Like so many other Americans, I am genuinely shocked and saddened that our nation, so long the beacon of light and hope for democracy, has come to such a dark moment.
01:52:14.000Through war and strife, America's endured much, and we will endure here and we will prevail again and will prevail now.
01:52:25.000The work of the moment and the work of the next four years must be the restoration of democracy, of decency, honor, respect, the rule of law.
01:53:04.000The certification Electoral College vote is supposed to be a sacred ritual which we affirm the purpose is to affirm the majesty of American democracy.
01:53:19.000But today's reminder, a painful one, that democracy is fragile and to preserve it requires people of goodwill, leaders of the courage to stand up, who are devoted not to the pursuit of power or the personal interest pursuits of their own selfish interest at any cost, but to the common good.
01:53:51.000Think what our children watching television is thinking.
01:53:54.000Think what the rest of the world is looking at.
01:53:57.000For nearly two and a half centuries, we the people, in search of a more perfect union, have kept our eyes on that common good.
01:54:09.000America is so much better than what we've seen today.
01:54:14.000Watching the scenes from the Capitol, I was reminded as I prepared other speeches in the past, I was reminded of the words of Abraham Lincoln in his annual message to Congress, whose work has today been interrupted by chaos.
01:54:34.000He said, we shall nobly save or merely lose the last best hope on earth.
01:54:44.000Went on to say, the way is plain, peaceful, generous, just a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.
01:57:00.000Where were these speeches when BLM and Antifa were literally terrorizing our streets all summer and into the fall and lighting fire to a federal courthouse night after night after night after night?
01:57:12.000So spare me your Pollyannish disappointment at Trump and Trump supporters.
01:57:18.000Listen, we're all disappointed at what we're seeing here.
01:57:21.000But I was disappointed when our country was engulfed in violence all over the summer.
01:57:25.000So again, I don't mean to be, you know, I know we're going to get accused of whataboutism and all of this.
01:57:35.000I think it just speaks to this very clear double standard we've created culturally in 2020, now moving into 2021.
01:57:41.000We're completely okay with people literally burning down cities, shooting people they disagree with in the street because they happen to wear a certain hat.
01:58:38.000We're hearing reports of some of these larger crowds starting to be weeded out by Capitol Police and the National Guard there in Washington, D.C.
01:58:46.000But I think until any of that clears out, it's pretty unlikely we'll be hearing from the House or the Senate today.
01:59:50.000So, just some good fresh blood into here.
01:59:53.000And so, Rob, what do you make of all this?
01:59:56.000Well, I was listening to Vice President Biden, and he invoked Lincoln.
02:00:02.000And what's fascinating to me is this week, 158 years ago, this week, the Emancipation Proclamation was established by Lincoln, declaring that all persons would be free in the South.
02:00:16.000And then last night, we watched as Georgia in the South elects two senators who declare that a child in the womb is not a person.
02:01:43.000Though passion may have strained it, we must not break our bonds of affection.
02:01:48.000The mystic cords of memory stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land will yet swell the chorus of the union when again touched as surely they will be by the better angels of our nature.
02:02:02.000Charlie, you said fascinatingly enough, and Isabel, as I've been watching you guys, you're covering this wisely.
02:02:10.000And Charlie, you said we have a split history with the 1619 Project and watching as we no longer have a shared history.
02:02:54.000There's never been a time like this where such a thing happened, where they could take it away from all of us, from me, from you, from our country.
02:03:04.000This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people.
02:03:40.000And I would also add with the president, Mr. President, peace is not the absence of conflict.
02:03:46.000But I understand what he's asking for.
02:03:48.000This violence right now and the confusion.
02:03:51.000But my point was: invoking the first inaugural address, watching as Vice President Biden invoking the words of Lincoln, Lincoln gets to his second inaugural address.
02:04:02.000He didn't have any hope of winning a second term.
02:04:05.000And it wasn't until Sherman had split the South and gotten down to Georgia.
02:04:09.000And when he did the Emancipation Proclamation in January of 1863, by July of 1863, you had Gettysburg.
02:04:16.000And he just kept getting the rolls of all the dead.
02:04:19.0002% of our nation's population died on a field of battle, 650,000.
02:04:25.000To end the misery of slavery, 4 million slaves in 1860.
02:04:31.000He gets to the second inaugural address that he thought he'd never give.
02:04:35.000And he speaks to the nation and he says, on the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war.
02:04:47.000While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war, seeking to dissolve the union and divide effects by negotiation.
02:05:02.000Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish.
02:05:13.000And war came, Charlie, you're getting beat up on both sides.
02:05:18.000Well, just by, I mean, generally, it's supportive, it's just some people are calling me for a civil war.
02:05:24.000As a minister, and listen, I do not condone the theft.
02:05:30.000I do not condone what's occurred in this nation and how they have destroyed so many aspects of our republic, our constitutional republic.
02:05:41.000And I'm in California facing this, and I'm in the middle of lawsuits as they are violating the First Amendment brutally.
02:05:49.000But I still hold to Philippians chapter 4, verses 6 and 7, be anxious in nothing, but in all things by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving, let your request be made known to God.
02:06:00.000And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your heart and your mind in Christ Jesus.
02:07:34.000You've got Christian worship leaders with this now senator-elect who declares himself a pastor when Jesus says, I've come that they might have life.
02:07:46.000And he declares the death of a child in the womb as acceptable to God.
02:08:32.000I'm calling for us to really reflect in our lives to a nation that was conceived in liberty by declaring that all men are created equal, endowed by their creator.
02:08:42.000We didn't decide what denomination, but we recognize that every person is accountable to God.
02:08:49.000And when we abandon that, we're in trouble.
02:08:53.000So we're still trying to make sense of what Vice President Pence will do once this reconvenes.
02:09:01.000We're hearing mixed reports, but it looks like he is not going to use the plenary power that has been trusted in him to either send it back to the state legislators or not count the votes from the states.
02:09:12.000So this entire kind of process has been delayed, to say the least, and kind of put into uncertainty.
02:09:22.000What's your take on the entire kind of Mike Pence thing?
02:09:25.000Well, first of all, it seemed as though he was signaling.
02:09:28.000And as I heard him speak at SAS, I thought, well, maybe he is going to stand.
02:09:34.000And then, you know, when given an opportunity to do the right thing and you do the easy thing, that's not the right thing.
02:09:52.000And now 74 million people won't be heard.
02:09:55.000And you're taking the easy route out and you're using the absence of history.
02:10:00.000Well, thank God there's an absence of case study that this nation has survived for what, 244 years, although the election of 1876 was tragic.
02:10:09.000And that's where we are revisiting this.
02:10:12.000But I was expecting more from Vice President Pence.
02:11:29.000What Vice President Mike Pence's path forward looks like.
02:11:32.000I think we have to reconvene and get back together into this process in order to find out where we go from here.
02:11:37.000Essentially, what's happening is in this joint session that is mandated on January 6th, the House of Representatives and the Senate of our Congress has convened to make sure that the votes for the Electoral College can be certified.
02:11:50.000That all is laid out in the 12th Amendment through our process of electing a new president and vice president of the United States.
02:11:55.000We go state by state in alphabetical order and we made it three states deep before pandemonium really broke loose and chaos ensued there at the United States Capitol with some of these protests and pretty unexpected behavior that we were not anticipating.
02:12:09.000Essentially what happens is one member of Congress and one member of the Senate have to object simultaneously to the Electoral College results state by state if they believe that there was some sort of fraudulent behavior if it's not actually certified or went against the United States Constitution as we've heard a lot about in states like Pennsylvania not going through the state legislature and instead going through some sort of executive power in the governor's office.
02:12:32.000Should both houses agree that some sort of fraudulent behavior took place, there are basically two directions that the vice president can use moving forward.
02:12:40.000Either he can invalidate that entire slate of votes from a particular state or he can send it back to the state legislatures to be recertified and sort of redebated in that space.
02:12:50.000Again, we don't know which way the vice president is leaning.
02:12:53.000We can assume that he's leaning towards not sending anything back towards the state legislatures or invalidating any votes based on a statement he made this morning.
02:13:01.000But again, really anything could happen after the events of the last few hours.
02:13:05.000Yeah, and so there is a so Mike Pence has said he does not have the power vested in him as vice president to do anything but just kind of be a master of ceremonies.
02:13:18.000Richard Nixon in 1960 did decide to count votes separately from what a state certification said.
02:13:25.000And also he can send it down to the state legislatures, which is the direct ask of the president.
02:13:29.000And name another time in American history where we've been in a place like this, where it would require the vice president to be more than just a ceremonial hood ornament.
02:13:41.000I think, unfortunately, so many of our leaders are operating out of a sense of fear in the last few years, especially.
02:13:47.000That's why you saw so many of these cases not be taken up through the court system in the proper venue that they should have been.
02:13:52.000It's why you're seeing people fail to act in times of necessity.
02:13:56.000And I think, unfortunately, we've let the left get away with so much in creating this culture of fear where we feel like we can't say what we believe in.
02:14:05.000We can't worship the God that we worship.
02:14:07.000And all of a sudden, this idea of self-censorship has extended to our actions beyond the things that we do or do not say into things that we do or do not do at the end of the day.
02:14:15.000And that's really disappointing for me to see.
02:14:17.000So a lot of people are emailing us about Mike Pence, and they're saying he has a family, he has maybe a political future.
02:14:27.000Rob, can you help unpack this a little bit?
02:14:29.000Some people are asking about his faith.
02:14:31.000I mean, would it be the Christian thing to do this?
02:15:22.000I'm getting fined every single week that the church is open.
02:15:25.000So, Mr. Vice President, you declare that, and it's one thing to declare with your mouth, but if your actions do not match your words, faith without works is dead.
02:15:37.000And I'm not questioning your Christianity in that sense, but this is the time for all good men to act.
02:15:43.000And politicians, because I know this, I was an elected official.
02:16:04.000And you're bound by the seven articles of the Constitution.
02:16:07.000And our First Amendment's been violated.
02:16:09.000The seven articles of the Constitution, you have been given this mantle to act in a manner worthy of the sovereign of this nation, we the people.
02:16:19.000And if that voice is taken and you violate the religious protections, you violate the free speech protections, you violate our ability to vote in a manner where we would trust that.
02:16:34.000And I would just say, if that is not defended from your position and you have that ability given by our founders, it's unconscionable from my estimation.
02:17:04.000We're hearing allegations that Antifa has been advertising to their members that they should not forget to disguise themselves as patriots or Trump supporters, wear MAGA hats, fly flags of the United States.
02:17:18.000It has not been confirmed on our end yet, but it does speak to what we've been saying earlier: that we generally do not know who these people are.
02:17:25.000A handful may be anarchists, a handful may be confused.
02:17:28.000We have a number of left we don't know.
02:17:29.000So we have to be waiting until we get some sort of confirmation from that to make any sort of determinative statement.
02:17:35.000We have a number of congregants that are there, a kind of man on the street.
02:18:18.000I want to take some of these, freedom at charliekirk.com.
02:18:22.000Just President Donald Trump's message to the violence, at least the barricades and the windows that were broken into.
02:18:31.000Outside of that, I don't think we saw, I'm trying to just catalog all the violence and be very specific because there were a lot of people that just seemed like they were following the crowd and followed it.
02:18:40.000But there were people that were bashing windows and all that nonsense.
02:18:44.000So I just want to make sure we're specific with exactly what happened here.
02:18:48.000Can we play President Trump's message again?
02:19:19.000There's never been a time like this where such a thing happened, where they could take it away from all of us, from me, from you, from our country.
02:19:28.000This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people.
02:20:11.000I wanted to say thank you, but I wanted to make sure I played the president's message because currently Twitter is blocking that message from getting out there completely.
02:20:24.000It looks as if a couple dozen people, agitators who we do not know, those could be on the left.
02:20:36.000They could be just people that like to see things burn went into Congress and started to bash barricades and stormed in against the wishes of law enforcement.
02:20:50.000This resulted in a confrontation with firearms and guns being drawn.
02:20:55.000We know of two people being shot with rubber bullets.
02:20:57.000I don't think they were shot with lethal bullets, hopefully not.
02:21:03.000And this was all after the objection of just the state of Arizona.
02:21:07.000We were covering that, and then this entire thing kind of went into total and complete bedlam.
02:21:12.000And so we are waiting to see if Congress will reconvene.
02:21:17.000Some people are saying they were real bullets.
02:21:19.000Were they real bullets or rubber bullets?
02:21:21.000I've seen conflicting information on that.
02:21:24.000We know one person was shot in the neck, but we're not exactly sure exactly what's there.
02:21:28.000So breaking right now, two pipe bombs have been found, one at a building that houses the RNC offices and one in the U.S. Capitol complex.
02:21:41.000And so that is something we're covering very quickly.
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02:22:47.000It seems as if that some people are, the numbers are minimizing, but some of the intensity seems to be increasing on the inside.
02:22:56.000And again, we don't know who these actors are.
02:22:58.000We can't judge what someone is wearing in these situations as a complete indicator of their beliefs, how they voted, who they're representing.
02:23:06.000So we are anxiously awaiting any opportunity to verify who these individuals are, but won't be making any sort of determinative statement until that time.
02:23:15.000Externally in the Capitol, it seems as if the crowds are rapidly dissipating.
02:23:51.000And so I'm going to read a tweet here just to use the left's own book of rules against them from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
02:24:00.000The whole point of protest, and I don't agree, I don't necessarily agree with this, but the whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable.
02:24:06.000Activists take that discomfort with the status quo and advocate for concrete policy changes.
02:24:11.000Popular support often starts small and grows.
02:24:13.000To folks who complain, protest demands make others uncomfortable.
02:24:18.000But of course, now that there is people on the other side doing it, the left has done, which I don't necessarily support, then we start to see not a lot of denunciation and calls for arrest.
02:24:29.000In fact, a congresswoman has just called for the FBI to arrest all these people, which we have predicted.
02:24:35.000Can we get that next tape up, please, of people that are barring the doors here?
02:24:43.000And Elon Omar has said, quote, she is drawing up articles of impeachment tonight, says Trump should be removed from office.
02:27:50.000You want to declare yourself as we the people, and yet did you agitate and force to this extent?
02:27:57.000Our responsibility is to do everything within our power in a constitutional republic to save the union and to preserve the union.
02:28:06.000Now, if we're cheated and violence is perpetrated on us and we're put in jail, I just think of the greatest movements in the nation have always been through peaceful protest.
02:28:36.000One person asked me, they say, from a Judeo-Christian worldview, from a Christian worldview, when something is stolen from you, what does the rightful mean to fight back?
02:28:47.000That's where a lot of people feel right now.
02:29:17.000But it seems like the minute something is taken from you, you have a call to arms.
02:29:22.000Did you show that same passion in walking precincts and making phone calls and contributing to campaigns and going to church and educating yourself and your congregations?
02:29:31.000Did you show the same concern for all the churches that have been shuttered and closed?
02:29:35.000Or is it just now you have this power because you have been shopping and buying all your tactical gear and you want to go to arms?
02:31:21.000You want to go against, as the Continental Forces did against the greatest nation on the face of the earth and who possess the military and all the might, and they've been ready for this.
02:31:33.000Well, if you're going to appear, excuse me, if you're going to appeal to heaven as our founders did, and you're going to invoke the Lord four times in the Declaration of Independence like our founders did, and you're going to pledge your lives, your fortunes, and your sacred honor like our founders did, you can't do it for light and transient causes because nobody's going to back you.
02:31:50.000One in nine Americans fought in the Revolutionary War.
02:31:59.000And just because you got your tactical gear and you've been dreaming of this day, you know, you wanted to move to Montana and get your chain link fence and your canned goods, that's not the way to run it.
02:32:12.000It's of the people, by the people, and for the people.
02:32:14.000When we abdicated our responsibility in that public square, and now we're watching it disintegrate because the churches never saw themselves as the ecclesia engaging in the public square to establish moral principles that would allow us to live in a manner that is liberty, equality, or excuse me, morality brings liberty, virtue.
02:33:29.000And some people are emailing us and they're saying, well, you know, people are saying that, you know, how do you know when that moment comes of that kind of tyranny?
02:35:16.000You do know that the founders appealed for 15 to 20 years peacefully trying to remedy their differences before Lexington and Concord in 74 or in 1776.
02:35:28.000There was an entire, very long history of all this.
02:35:31.000And if you really, really, if you're really using words like revolution and civil war at this moment, which a lot of people are, and I feel the need to address this directly, then I will be very honest.
02:35:44.000A lot of you do not realize the sort of carnage that comes after that.
02:37:14.000I'm calling that you not be anxious because that's what the scriptures declare.
02:37:17.000And as Charlie pointed out, historically speaking, before the Revolutionary War, they appealed to a despotic king over and over and over again.
02:37:28.000And they went into the Declaration prayerfully.
02:38:27.000We still do have many mechanisms in our country that have, and that's why I was such a big believer in Mike Pence using those mechanisms to prevent nonsense from this.
02:39:04.000Yeah, from what I can tell, we showed a photo earlier in this live stream of guns being pointed through the window inside one of the chambers in the Capitol building.
02:39:12.000That's what I'm guessing this bullet is coming from, is that scene that we saw earlier today.
02:39:18.000But yeah, let's go ahead and show you.
02:39:20.000And before I say, this is just a tragedy.
02:39:22.000And whoever, if she was a leader or led this woman into this, there's going to be a lot of criminal investigations into this now that this has happened.
02:40:34.000The FBI and the DOJ are now going to have unchecked power to use terrorist provisions of the Patriot Act to now go after every single Trump supporter in the country.
02:40:56.000Yeah, the weaponization of government against the sovereign, we the people.
02:41:01.000And if they continue to overstep, you know, I stepped down from office because the governor of the state of California was violating the Constitution he swore to defend.
02:41:14.000And when I took that oath of office, I took it seriously.
02:41:17.000I'm constrained as an elected official by those seven articles of the Constitution, those 27 amendments.
02:41:22.000And when that governor violated that, I could not in good conscience serve on that council and then have them censure me continually.
02:41:33.000And I would just say if government continues in that route and if they weaponize government to that extent and there's no release vowel for we the people, they're pushing Americans towards that place they don't want.
02:41:45.000And I would encourage those in elected office that swore to defend that Constitution, including the Capitol Police and every law enforcement official, back away.
02:41:56.000You swore to defend that Constitution.
02:41:59.000And how can you defend something you don't know anything about?
02:42:02.000I would ask every law enforcement official and every elected official out there, anyone in a military who has sworn to defend that Constitution, I would ask you to revisit it.
02:42:13.000And I would ask you to look at those seven articles and then reread the 27 amendments and realize that you govern by the consent of the sovereign, we the people, and start to realize that, especially for law enforcement and military personnel, you're sheepdogs.
02:42:38.000But you have to be under constraint by the master.
02:42:41.000And the master is the one that's given you, as it says in Romans 13, that you are a minister of justice to execute wrath on those who would do evil.
02:42:49.000But we carry the sword and we don't carry it in vain.
02:43:16.000Isabel, do you have an update you want to share?
02:43:20.000Congresswoman Corey Bush, who is from the state of Missouri, has started to draft a new resolution for the House of Representatives that would allow for expulsion of Republican members of Congress who were attempting to overturn the election.
02:43:34.000So anyone who signed on to any sort of objection to the Electoral College votes may be expelled from Congress as a result of this resolution.
02:43:46.000Yeah, I would say of her doing that and those saying, let's go to guns.
02:43:55.000And I think we're starting to see this reality play out today in so many different facets intellectually, through Congress, through realms of legal means, through realms of violence.
02:44:04.000We clearly are living in two very different societies, one governed by God and governed by reality, and one that's complete anarchy and chaos.
02:44:32.000And it was preventable either by the agitators or whatever.
02:44:35.000And there are people out there, and that's why I am still of the opinion that this was a leftist infiltration that influence and infiltrate certain organizations.
02:44:45.000And they do this just because they want to see the world burn.
02:44:48.000We're starting to see more chaos spin out outside of D.C. as well.
02:46:02.000Lord, we're thankful that none of this caught you by surprise.
02:46:06.000You're God of order, and here we're watching chaos.
02:46:10.000But yet, Lord, you're greater than all this.
02:46:11.000Greater is He who's in us and He's in the world.
02:46:14.000And you call us that we call upon the name of the Lord, we will be saved.
02:46:18.000You're a strong tower, the righteous run into you and they are saved.
02:46:21.000Lord, I pray that this would cause folks to be shaken to their core, that they would realize that there is a God in heaven, and he is a God who rules in the affairs of men.
02:46:34.000We're drinking his water, breathing his air, and eating his food, but we must live by his rules.
02:46:39.000And so, Lord, please, I pray that this would be a wake-up call for every man and woman to evaluate their lives and say, God, have mercy on me.
02:46:49.000Awaken me to the wise restraints that make men free.
02:46:53.000That the laws of nature, nature's God, would be applied once again to this constitutional republic, that men and women can live longer than 244 years in the most liberty any nation in the history of the world have ever experienced.
02:47:10.000But, God, we also pray for patience, that folks wouldn't be anxious in anything, but by prayer and supplication, like we're doing now, and appealing to you, that you would guard our hearts and our minds in Christ Jesus.
02:47:54.000And we thank you that we have a God to call to, as the founders did.
02:47:57.000That we can appeal to you, even as the greatest empire on the face of the earth, England that had just defeated the second greatest empire, France, was coming down on this ragtag group of colonies and was going to decimate them.
02:48:12.000But yet, when we appeal to you and we're right with you, there's no weapon fashioned against us that will stand.
02:48:18.000So, Lord, please bring an awakening and a revival across this land.
02:48:22.000And we ask this in your matchless mighty name.