The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Debates the Students at the University of Texas

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

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00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You've got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

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00:01:17.000 Okay, let's do some questions.

00:01:18.000 Thank you guys for sitting through that.

00:01:27.000 I'm told that that guy was just arrested.

00:01:29.000 So, yeah.

00:01:29.000 Okay, there you go.

00:01:36.000 Okay, just some ground rules, everybody.

00:01:38.000 Obviously, it's somewhat of a majority conservative audience here.

00:01:41.000 You guys can feel free to form a line and ask questions if you would like.

00:01:45.000 If you disagree, you can go to the front of the line.

00:01:47.000 And then, if somebody who is on the left comes, please treat them with respect.

00:01:52.000 Don't boo them or scold them.

00:01:53.000 It takes courage to go to an event of people that you disagree with.

00:01:56.000 So, show them respect and give them an opportunity to.

00:01:59.000 Kind of state their case if someone from the opposition goes there.

00:02:03.000 So feel free to get in line, guys, if you want.

00:02:06.000 And okay, question here.

00:02:07.000 All right, howdy, Charlie.

00:02:08.000 Thank you for coming.

00:02:09.000 I'm sure that all of us are so excited that you're here, finally.

00:02:12.000 So before I ask my question, I just got to say this we need you to come to Texas AM University.

00:02:17.000 I know that we're here at UT, but I'm not the only person that thinks that.

00:02:21.000 Okay, so I don't remember if it was at SAS 2022 or at America Fest, but I remember you saying that UT Austin is the most leftist university you have ever visited.

00:02:32.000 It's been a few years since you've been here.

00:02:34.000 So, and I mean, you can elaborate on this.

00:02:37.000 Does that still prove true?

00:02:38.000 I know you said UC Berkeley, so.

00:02:40.000 Okay, so last time I was here, that was something, I gotta tell you.

00:02:44.000 We had like a cameraman get assaulted, and it was all sorts of crazy stuff.

00:02:48.000 That was four years ago.

00:02:50.000 So I don't think this campus has gotten more conservative, but I think other campuses have gotten more liberal.

00:02:55.000 So by process of elimination, you're no longer the most liberal school I visited.

00:02:59.000 So I guess you'll take it, right?

00:03:02.000 So, no, but I will say this, though, and I'll repeat it.

00:03:05.000 The administration coming in and allowing our dialogue to happen, hosting the event, Campus police.

00:03:10.000 That's very good.

00:03:11.000 I don't get that at every school, I gotta tell you.

00:03:12.000 We gotta fight for every single inch.

00:03:15.000 And so that's good.

00:03:17.000 But I said this kind of out in the open when I was there.

00:03:17.000 I appreciate it.

00:03:22.000 There is a lot of work to do here because some of the postmodern pablum that I was hearing has some very, very serious implications.

00:03:31.000 So the question, I guess, is also liberal versus leftist, right?

00:03:36.000 Liberal, I'm fine with, okay?

00:03:38.000 Liberals like free speech, live and let live, okay, fine, I'm not a liberal.

00:03:42.000 Leftists really bother me.

00:03:44.000 Leftists are the few people, not a lot, who came up today and they said, You don't have a right to be here.

00:03:49.000 We want to kick you off campus.

00:03:50.000 Okay. 0.89

00:03:51.000 Leftists bother me.

00:03:52.000 They're totalitarians and they should bother you too.

00:03:54.000 Instead of having debate or dialogue, they resort to force or they try to intimidate you with threats or they try to play music while you talk.

00:04:01.000 So there's a difference between liberals and leftists.

00:04:04.000 And I hope UT at least remains liberal and never becomes leftist in that regard.

00:04:09.000 Appreciate it.

00:04:09.000 Thank you.

00:04:09.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:04:15.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:04:16.000 I also want to say thank you so much for coming out here and speaking to us today.

00:04:19.000 I have a question that's a little bit more political about transgenderism.

00:04:23.000 As a parent yourself, what would you say to maybe a teacher who's pushing this agenda on to students, maybe even your daughter one day? 0.94

00:04:31.000 Yeah, that person is a groomer who is a pervert and should not be in teaching to use their position in education to put forward radical, baseless, perverse gender queer theory on a five, six, or seven, or eight year old. 0.81

00:04:47.000 That is a, I mean, I used the right descriptions, right, when I said that. 0.99

00:04:51.000 Not only does it have no place in education, the implications of that are quite obvious.

00:04:55.000 And evidence after evidence after evidence is surfacing of parents telling kids not to, I'm sorry, teachers telling parents, teachers telling kids not to tell their parents, right?

00:05:04.000 Teachers coming in and saying, you know, do not repeat this.

00:05:08.000 And if we're at a place in society where we can't remove pornographic images from kids' textbooks, then we got a serious problem.

00:05:16.000 And that's where we're at.

00:05:18.000 I mean, if you're seven, eight, or nine years old and you have this graphic, graphic teaching, it really shows a broader sickness.

00:05:25.000 Why, though?

00:05:26.000 Well, it's because the innocence of children is worthy of being protected and preserved.

00:05:26.000 Why, why, why?

00:05:30.000 It's a moral good.

00:05:31.000 The innocence of children is very important because they never get it back.

00:05:35.000 And that period of childhood development, where they're quote unquote as innocent as they can be, is important for them to find out their values, grow close to their parents, find out what's right and wrong.

00:05:45.000 You know what ends up happening when the innocence of children is robbed?

00:05:48.000 They're less likely to take risks and fail and learn who they are.

00:05:52.000 Every study shows this.

00:05:54.000 When a child's innocence is quote unquote robbed, you could use whatever graphic example you could imagine.

00:06:00.000 Then all of a sudden, are they going to be as likely to, you know, there's a great, there's an old Hebrew proverb which is, someone who's afraid of being embarrassed will never learn.

00:06:12.000 It's a great Hebrew proverb, isn't it? 0.90

00:06:14.000 Which is, they're going to be less likely to ask, quote unquote, the dumb question, maybe more likely to be in their shell. 0.64

00:06:19.000 I think there's something really fun and exciting of a five, six, or seven year old that asks the wackiest questions you can imagine because they're trying to explore truth. 0.91

00:06:27.000 And we want to destroy that.

00:06:28.000 You never get that back.

00:06:29.000 Once it's gone, there is no reversing it.

00:06:31.000 And I think that's a very special thing.

00:06:32.000 I think every.

00:06:34.000 You know, the kind of the beauty of what the West has been able to do is saying that those of us that are older and those of us that have some form of strength need to use that strength, and I mean strength more collectively, not physical strength, use that to protect children that can't protect themselves.

00:06:49.000 And then once they become to an age of informed consent, we basically have that age around 18, then obviously they can, you know, make more decisions themselves.

00:06:56.000 But we're not even talking about 18, we're not even talking about 14, we're not talking about 12, we're talking about five, six, and seven year olds.

00:07:02.000 We're talking about the most moldable, impressionable ages imaginable.

00:07:07.000 Thank you for your question.

00:07:08.000 I appreciate it.

00:07:14.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:07:15.000 I just want to open up by saying I am a leftist and I understand your perspective on this.

00:07:19.000 Thanks for being here.

00:07:20.000 But I did want to hear you out today and, well, you know, ask a question.

00:07:23.000 So you said that you believe that quarantine is the cause of our generations, like, distraught, essentially.

00:07:29.000 And I believe that it is actually war.

00:07:32.000 Like, we were born fresh out of 9 11, some of us around the time of 9 11.

00:07:36.000 And I don't know.

00:07:37.000 My father served in Afghanistan.

00:07:39.000 So.

00:07:40.000 I don't have a very keen perspective of the United States, let's say, but I did want to hear you out on what you had to say.

00:07:47.000 And I do believe we have some common ground in the fact that capitalism has failed my generation more than any other in recent years.

00:07:54.000 Yeah, I didn't quite say that, but I would say lack of free enterprise in some ways, but that's okay.

00:07:58.000 You got most of it.

00:07:59.000 So, yeah, so the lockdowns, not quarantine, right?

00:08:03.000 That was the word I used.

00:08:05.000 But I mean, I'll just prove it to you.

00:08:06.000 So, the war thing aside, I mean, how many people in this room know someone that committed suicide or seriously harmed themselves in the midst of the pandemic?

00:08:13.000 Just by a show of hands.

00:08:14.000 That's a lot.

00:08:16.000 I mean, the numbers show suicide visits were 50% higher among 12 to 17 year olds during the same period in 2018.

00:08:23.000 Psychiatric medication prescription went up, alcoholism went up, drug use went up, not to mention young people then re entered an economy where everything was twice as expensive because we created a bunch of money because of the lack of productivity in the lockdowns.

00:08:37.000 And so I think it's just inarguable that the lockdowns played a huge role, a massive role, in really depriving a generation of the ability to congregate.

00:08:47.000 And to communicate.

00:08:48.000 Can I say my perspective?

00:08:49.000 Yeah, sure.

00:08:50.000 This is kind of personal, but I was considering taking my own life before quarantine, and I think discovering myself during quarantine is what saved myself.

00:08:58.000 I have quite the opposite experience.

00:08:59.000 I know that is unique in that case, but I would say that it's the opposite.

00:09:04.000 I would say it's the opposite case, but that's just my personal perspective.

00:09:07.000 I think there are far more worse things that my generation has been exposed to than the lockdown and the inflation that you have cited during the lockdown.

00:09:16.000 That's arguably not the fault of the current standing president if you do believe that it is the fault of the current standing president.

00:09:22.000 Well, right.

00:09:22.000 I mean, first of all, Biden created $5 trillion new dollars, not created, but he approved $5 trillion new dollars that was hyper inflationary.

00:09:29.000 But I'll even give you that the other COVID relief funds never should have been approved.

00:09:33.000 But look, it's not just the suicide issue, but first of all, thank you.

00:09:36.000 We're glad you're here.

00:09:36.000 We're glad you didn't make that decision.

00:09:38.000 Life is beautiful and worthy of protection.

00:09:39.000 I mean that.

00:09:45.000 But it's from childhood speech impediment development, it's from asocial cues, it's from if you talk to any psychologist or child psychologist, they do not have the bandwidth to be able to even facilitate.

00:09:56.000 The amount of kids, and I know that you have an obviously exception experience, but that is the exception, right?

00:10:01.000 I mean, it is self evident that these lockdowns were unusually cruel.

00:10:05.000 And you know who they were most cruel to?

00:10:08.000 To poor families.

00:10:10.000 It was the most cruel to people that didn't have extra bedrooms or high speed internet connection to be able to keep up with this.

00:10:17.000 The kind of zoomification of American education was the hardest on the people that the regime said they want to help the most.

00:10:26.000 And I mean, so you're an economic leftist, is that fair to say?

00:10:29.000 I mean, would you at least agree that for one of your passionate causes, which is billionaires getting wealthier, billionaires got $600 billion wealthier?

00:10:38.000 Absolutely.

00:10:38.000 And like your whole big tech sucks, is that what it says?

00:10:41.000 I don't know what it says. 0.94

00:10:41.000 Yeah, that's one of them. 0.94

00:10:42.000 I'm absolutely on your side with that.

00:10:44.000 And I don't think enough conservatives understand that the left are equally against big business as they are.

00:10:49.000 Well, some leftists, right?

00:10:51.000 I mean, it depends who you talk to.

00:10:52.000 I mean, the loud minority, I would say, are the ones that make you get the impression that we're not against big business.

00:10:58.000 Yeah.

00:10:58.000 I promise the ones that actually read, Excuse me where I'm a little cynical about that, just to be honest, where I have to hear they're against big business while they mandated a Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna vaccine of publicly traded transnational corporations.

00:11:12.000 And see, that's more of like, in my eyes, a neoliberal concept.

00:11:17.000 Okay, but I mean, it was, find me one left wing senator that opposed that, and it just didn't exist.

00:11:23.000 But I think you're coming at this from an honest perspective, and I'll just close with this.

00:11:28.000 This is what drives me nuts about.

00:11:31.000 Kind of the fixation on race all the time and all these other issues that I would prefer not to talk about is that I think there's actually agreement on kind of how things went wrong last couple years.

00:11:40.000 You blame capitalism, I blame more cronyism and big government intervention over a lot of different things.

00:11:45.000 But I'm afraid that a lot of what we spend our time talking about are some of the more superficial issues rooted in race Marxism. 0.95

00:11:55.000 I absolutely agree. 0.61

00:11:56.000 Absolutely agree.

00:11:57.000 So I do believe classism is the biggest issue in America.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, so let me ask you a question.

00:12:00.000 As a leftist, you know, why is it that the American left Why is the American left allowing the conversation to be controlled by white liberals that just want to stay rich?

00:12:10.000 It's big business paying them off.

00:12:12.000 That's an honest answer.

00:12:14.000 You are a true revolutionary.

00:12:16.000 So, God bless you, comrade.

00:12:17.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

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00:13:33.000 Thanks.

00:13:34.000 All right.

00:13:34.000 So, abortion seems to be like a big topic these days.

00:13:38.000 And I was actually at your booth earlier.

00:13:39.000 I was just listening in, and that was a big topic there, too.

00:13:43.000 And so, I guess I just had a question about that because at the booth, whenever someone was asking you why are we valuing the fetus, it kept coming back to human life.

00:13:52.000 And I didn't really understand what you meant by that because when you say human life, human life by definition is an organism or a being that has human DNA.

00:14:04.000 And so, when the fetus only really has that connection with fully grown adults or just born children, what entitles the fetus?

00:14:15.000 To violate the property rights of the mother over her own body or to have the government do so on her behalf.

00:14:22.000 Does that baby have unique DNA? 0.55

00:14:25.000 Yeah.

00:14:26.000 So, by your own definition, that should be worthy of protection, right?

00:14:30.000 No, I don't believe that DNA has moral value.

00:14:32.000 Oh, okay, got it.

00:14:34.000 So, when does human life begin?

00:14:36.000 Well, human life, I guess, if you say like an organism that is human species, by definition, begins at conception.

00:14:44.000 Right, so then my position is that being that begins at conception.

00:14:48.000 Is worthy of constitutional rights and protection.

00:14:50.000 Why?

00:14:51.000 What moral value does simply having, being an organism, even if it's just a single celled organism that has human DNA, what moral value?

00:14:58.000 Right, because human beings are different.

00:15:00.000 Human beings have the ability to have rational speech, to reason, not just consciousness, not just the ability to feel.

00:15:06.000 Human beings are the only species that cannot just feel pain and pleasure, but can tell the just from the unjust.

00:15:13.000 Human beings are something that is so beautiful and so special, and of course I have many different reasons to believe this, but I'll make a natural law argument.

00:15:21.000 That DNA will never exist again.

00:15:23.000 It's distinct and it is living.

00:15:25.000 And if allowed uninterrupted growth, that human being will hopefully mature into something just like you have.

00:15:31.000 And we're all abortion survivors, aren't we?

00:15:35.000 I.

00:15:40.000 Okay, so you mentioned the rationality that makes human beings special.

00:15:45.000 But that single celled organism doesn't have that rationality yet.

00:15:49.000 And so, what qualifies the entirety of the human species?

00:15:53.000 So, my seven week old doesn't have a lot of rationality yet.

00:15:58.000 I mean, my baby girl eats and does other things and sleeps.

00:16:05.000 I mean, obviously, you would agree, that seven week old has value.

00:16:08.000 Well, yeah, but I'm not coming from an argument of rationality.

00:16:11.000 I'd come from more of a self ownership type perspective.

00:16:14.000 And I simply don't believe that an organism that is inherently dependent on violating another person's property rights in order to survive.

00:16:25.000 Right.

00:16:26.000 So, but I mean, my seven week old is very dependent on my wife and me.

00:16:30.000 That doesn't mean I can just eliminate my seven week old.

00:16:33.000 I'm sorry?

00:16:34.000 Obviously, like the seven week old depends on like for practicality and living.

00:16:37.000 But if we're talking about a moral perspective, right, just the capacity to have rationality, why does that give it moral value?

00:16:44.000 Okay, but we're talking about two different things.

00:16:46.000 I guess the question is do you believe just because something is dependent on another, is that a reason that you could be able to eliminate that being?

00:16:54.000 If that being has to violate someone else's moral rights in order to do so, yes.

00:16:59.000 Really?

00:17:00.000 Yeah.

00:17:01.000 So, what moral rights do you mean by that?

00:17:04.000 The right to have autonomy over your own body.

00:17:07.000 If another actor is violating those rights, then yeah, to remove it, I don't see a problem with that.

00:17:11.000 Got it.

00:17:12.000 So bodily autonomy would be more important than another being being able to live a full life?

00:17:19.000 Yeah, I would value a being that has the right to property over one that doesn't have a right to property yet.

00:17:24.000 Got it.

00:17:24.000 Just because the being is older and not in the womb and bigger.

00:17:28.000 And also because the being is a person and not just an organism.

00:17:32.000 Okay, so, but if that being's one week old, it's more than a single cell organism.

00:17:36.000 Yeah, but that person, that one week old still has like, Autonomy over themselves, at least at one week old, like has an inherent natural autonomy over themselves.

00:17:45.000 So, this is where we have clarity but not agreement.

00:17:48.000 Here's the problem, okay?

00:17:50.000 Morality that built the West and the morality that I'm gonna defend tonight is that one week old can't defend themselves, so stronger, bigger people not in the womb need to insert themselves to make sure that one week old is not terminated by people that are just happen to be older and bigger than them.

00:18:07.000 Is that regardless of size, as soon as that life begins, which you agreed it starts at conception.

00:18:12.000 That being deserves constitutional rights, uniquely and fearfully made.

00:18:16.000 And it's the question of the morality of a society, what we're willing to do when that being comes into existence.

00:18:22.000 Because human life is special.

00:18:24.000 Human life is different than dolphins, it's different than chimpanzees.

00:18:27.000 We not just have the ability to reason, and I'm going to make an argument you might not agree with.

00:18:30.000 Yes, human beings have a soul.

00:18:33.000 And a soul is worthy of protection.

00:18:34.000 I would even go as far to say that a human being is made in the image of the Creator.

00:18:37.000 I don't expect you to agree with that.

00:18:38.000 Final point.

00:18:39.000 Okay, so I guess I would just believe that the only types of I mean, at least the only types of humans that can have moral rights are ones that act as moral agents and a single celled organism that's living in a womb or a multicellular organism that's living in a womb.

00:18:56.000 Can you explain what you mean by moral agents?

00:18:58.000 Moral agency?

00:18:59.000 So if you don't have moral agency, then you could be up for elimination.

00:19:06.000 If you don't have moral agency, if you don't have the ability to, if you don't have ownership over your own body yet.

00:19:11.000 Yeah, so by the way, babies until they're about 18 months old do not have ownership of their own body.

00:19:15.000 No, I would say that they did.

00:19:17.000 Okay, how would my seven-week-old feed herself if I just left her in the crib? 0.99

00:19:20.000 That's not ownership over your own body, though.

00:19:22.000 The ability to move your body by instinct, even, is ownership over your own body.

00:19:26.000 Okay, so a 22-week-old baby in the womb moves all the time.

00:19:32.000 You're contradicting yourself.

00:19:33.000 You have to have a line.

00:19:35.000 At 15 weeks, six weeks, there's a heartbeat.

00:19:39.000 I guess I would say that.

00:19:42.000 Okay, so that was a good point.

00:19:43.000 Thank you.

00:19:49.000 I guess I probably just need to clarify that what I mean by like self ownership or moral agency, because that organism or that human, whatever, in the womb is still inherent, like in order to like survive, it's inherently biologically dependent, even if it does nothing, right?

00:20:07.000 It's biologically dependent on the mother.

00:20:10.000 And so if we talk about like late term, like just, I mean, like I guess I don't want to go into that territory just like right now, right?

00:20:17.000 So if we say, huh?

00:20:18.000 So like if we just talk about like early term, like abortion, I simply don't see, I don't have, like, and I don't think that generally people see a moral value that is similar to even that of a newborn baby in something that is just conceived.

00:20:35.000 We have clarity.

00:20:36.000 Thank you for your question, man.

00:20:37.000 Appreciate it.

00:20:38.000 Thank you.

00:20:45.000 Hi.

00:20:45.000 So we've now had the COVID vaccine out for about two years now, right?

00:20:50.000 End of 2020, it came out.

00:20:52.000 And my question to you basically is, How long is it going to take you to accept the fact that the COVID vaccine is fine for people to use?

00:21:06.000 Did you hear about what the Florida Surgeon General said the other day?

00:21:10.000 Are you aware that over 2 billion people have taken the vaccine?

00:21:13.000 And there are incentives by other countries who have made their own vaccines to go against the United States?

00:21:17.000 And even Donald Trump himself.

00:21:18.000 So you don't know that.

00:21:19.000 Yeah, he's Trump against me.

00:21:21.000 That's really rich.

00:21:22.000 So the Florida Surgeon General said that the vaccine has caused an 84% increase in cardiovascular events for young men 18 to 40.

00:21:33.000 Why would he say that?

00:21:36.000 Well, if you look at the entire pool of people who have gotten the vaccine, it does that.

00:21:42.000 So let's do that.

00:21:43.000 Raise your hand if you know someone that was harmed by the vaccine or had an adverse event.

00:21:46.000 Look around.

00:21:48.000 Well, two billion people.

00:21:49.000 Are they lying?

00:21:49.000 No, look around.

00:21:51.000 That's a lot of people that have seen adverse events.

00:21:54.000 So don't you think that if it really was.

00:21:56.000 Is it all a conspiracy?

00:21:57.000 No, no.

00:21:58.000 Let's say it's not a conspiracy.

00:22:00.000 Don't you think that the fact that, like, in your world, that this false vaccine has been distributed so widespread throughout not just the United States, but the world?

00:22:11.000 Demonstrates that the United States is a failed country.

00:22:14.000 No, but so I don't personally believe that the United States is a failed country.

00:22:17.000 I like living in the United States, but I have faith in our institutions enough to say that distributing a vaccine to 300 something billion people in the United States is false or that is like not safe to use.

00:22:32.000 Well, so what do you know about the VAERS, the government database of VAERS, the vaccine adverse event reporting system?

00:22:37.000 But I can go on the system and report whatever I want.

00:22:39.000 Well, no, actually, it's a very long, exhaustive process that takes 45 minutes to an hour.

00:22:43.000 Hold on.

00:22:43.000 Under penalty of perjury to go to jail if you followed a false report.

00:22:46.000 And if you talk to them in a hospital, they say it's underreported.

00:22:48.000 According to the government's website, 31,330 people died because of the vaccine.

00:22:53.000 According to the government website, 179,806 people were hospitalized.

00:22:57.000 136,000 people were in urgent care, 16,100 with Bell's palsy, 10,064 with anaphylaxis, and over 207,576 doctor office visits, 5,000 miscarriages, 16,000 heart attacks, and 52,000 events of myocarditis and pericarditis.

00:23:14.000 That is not a safe or effective vaccine.

00:23:17.000 Do you think that if we compare those numbers to the total amount of people who got the vaccine, that it makes sense?

00:23:21.000 Say it again.

00:23:21.000 I couldn't hear you.

00:23:24.000 You can list a large amount of people.

00:23:26.000 10,000 people sounds like a lot of people.

00:23:28.000 100,000 people sounds like a lot of people.

00:23:31.000 But when you divide that number by the amount of people who have taken the vaccine, then you can look at the statistical rate of that.

00:23:36.000 You do realize that.

00:23:37.000 And compare it to other vaccines and see if it's the exact same thing.

00:23:39.000 If the flu shot has even six adverse events, they pull it from the entire field for adverse events.

00:23:45.000 It has six.

00:23:47.000 So let me ask you a final question.

00:23:50.000 So, the Florida Surgeon General said the following.

00:23:53.000 This analysis found that there's an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac related deaths among males 18 to 39 years old within 28 days following the mRNA vaccination.

00:24:03.000 That's the Florida Surgeon General that has come out.

00:24:05.000 Pfizer came and testified today, and they said we never tested the vaccine to be able to prevent the spread of the virus.

00:24:11.000 Pfizer has admitted the booster shot was tested on eight mice.

00:24:17.000 Does that bother you?

00:24:19.000 Do you realize that there's variants, right?

00:24:21.000 The original COVID variant is the one that they're saying.

00:24:23.000 The mouse variant?

00:24:24.000 No.

00:24:28.000 We have the Delta variant and we have the Omicron variant now, right?

00:24:31.000 In the beginning, the first variant of coronavirus is the one that they claimed the original vaccines stopped the spread of, right?

00:24:38.000 And then the Delta waned that off, and then Omicron waned that off even more.

00:24:40.000 And now they don't say that.

00:24:42.000 They say that it prevents hospitalization and death, which is still true.

00:24:45.000 Right.

00:24:45.000 So here's the thing I'm going to trust not just the data, not just the Florida Surgeon General, not just my own lying eyes.

00:24:51.000 You looked around the room.

00:24:52.000 People have experience after experience after experience.

00:24:55.000 And by the way, if you think it works, God bless you.

00:24:57.000 Take it.

00:24:57.000 Have a great time.

00:24:59.000 But I have a moral obligation as a communicator not to lie to you.

00:25:02.000 And I'm looking at the data, and I'm never going to back away from this position.

00:25:07.000 And honestly, history is going to vindicate every one of us that told you not to take this.

00:25:13.000 Thank you very much.

00:25:19.000 Hey, Charlie, thanks for coming out.

00:25:20.000 I got to admit, I was a little freaked out when you had all those numbers that you just pulled out.

00:25:24.000 I was like, whoa, don't mess with Charlie.

00:25:26.000 He has the facts ready to go.

00:25:28.000 It's a little intimidating, right?

00:25:30.000 And I have to say, too, like on the last comment, even if there was only a 1% adverse effect, why are we mandating it then?

00:25:36.000 Why are people losing their livelihoods getting kicked out of the military for that?

00:25:39.000 Exactly.

00:25:40.000 But my question to you is, are you a nationalist?

00:25:45.000 And if you are, do you think nationalism means more towards loving your people or loving the ideas of your country?

00:25:51.000 Under the proper description, yes, I am a nationalist.

00:25:54.000 Under the proper description, because I think there's a lot of smearing and you should always value people more.

00:25:59.000 Great.

00:26:00.000 Thank you.

00:26:01.000 Quickest answer here.

00:26:01.000 Appreciate it.

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00:27:22.000 Hi, good evening.

00:27:23.000 I'll start by saying I'm a leftist, but I found common ground with you on abortion, and that I completely agree that, you know, whatever you want to call it, a fetus, at whatever stage it is, it's alive.

00:27:39.000 There's no contention on that front.

00:27:41.000 My concern, though, and I want to hear your perspective on this, is here in Texas we have the strictest abortion ban in the whole country.

00:27:49.000 There's no exception for rape or incest or for the life of the mother after six weeks.

00:27:55.000 My concern is that the government is mandating that people carry out their pregnancies even when it goes against their own life and their own well being.

00:28:05.000 I can take an example of if somebody is threatening to harm you, you have a right to self defense. 0.81

00:28:11.000 Why not have the same? 0.97

00:28:12.000 Give the same autonomy to people who are pregnant. 0.94

00:28:15.000 Okay, thoughtful question.

00:28:17.000 So, first thing is if you believe abortion is wrong, which you admitted it is, well, then you should obviously have laws that.

00:28:17.000 Thank you.

00:28:25.000 I'll clarify, I didn't admit that abortion was wrong.

00:28:28.000 Okay, then I see it as a form of self defense.

00:28:31.000 Okay, right.

00:28:32.000 So, that's a new one.

00:28:36.000 Well, as the previous person says, that person inside of you is completely dependent on you in a way different than a natural born person.

00:28:45.000 So, in most cases, Rape and incest aside, how did that being get there?

00:28:51.000 I mean, in most cases, through sex, regardless of rape or incest.

00:28:56.000 Yeah, so there was a choice made.

00:28:58.000 I see your point.

00:28:59.000 Even with a choice, let's say you invite someone into your home and they still decide to assault you.

00:29:05.000 Does that mean you don't have a right to self defense against them?

00:29:08.000 Well, no.

00:29:08.000 I think that, for example, if you have a bunch of teenagers over to your home and they start wrecking everything, you shouldn't be shocked when all of a sudden you wake up the next morning and things are a little awry.

00:29:17.000 But we're not just talking about wrecking a home, we're talking about wrecking your own body, your own personal experience.

00:29:21.000 Well, hold on.

00:29:22.000 Again, rape and incesticide, of which I'm happy to answer and happy to talk about the moral aspect of that, but 98% of all abortions are done as a form of birth control.

00:29:30.000 Right?

00:29:31.000 It's a form of birth control. 1.00

00:29:32.000 How did those people get pregnant? 1.00

00:29:34.000 Usually through consensual sex. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Right.

00:29:37.000 So they are pro choice.

00:29:38.000 They made a choice to have consensual sex, and now they want to be able to use scientific medical technology to crush a being that is not them, is a different person out of convenience?

00:29:50.000 Let's say you have a child who needs a kidney transplant, and you are the only one who can supply it, and you consensually allow them to use that kidney.

00:30:02.000 What if the operation goes too long?

00:30:04.000 They're still kind of using your blood for months on end.

00:30:07.000 Should the government mandate, you know, maybe not kidney?

00:30:10.000 I love these hypotheticals.

00:30:12.000 I got it not in my mind.

00:30:13.000 But you see where I'm sitting.

00:30:14.000 No, earlier I got the most amazing hypothetical.

00:30:16.000 We don't have to overthink this.

00:30:17.000 Like, why should children get the death penalty because their parents decided to have consensual sex?

00:30:22.000 I don't understand this.

00:30:23.000 Sir, even if you consent to, say, taking care of your child through the, you know, transfusing blood or whatnot, should the government mandate that you have to continue that consensual blood transfusion?

00:30:35.000 Again, under the unrealistic hypothetical, and I reject the whole premise of this.

00:30:38.000 The question is let me answer it more broadly.

00:30:41.000 Do I think the government should step in to protect and preserve human rights, be it by mandating, especially when the question is termination or not?

00:30:50.000 Of course, the answer is yes.

00:30:51.000 But it says a lot when there's a very serious, concrete question, and kind of we have to yield to these abstractions, which is fine.

00:30:58.000 The philosophical sides and the kind of hypotheticals are fine, are legitimate, I suppose, in some sense, but it comes to be just more concrete, right?

00:31:06.000 You've got a million abortions every single year.

00:31:08.000 Okay? 1.00

00:31:10.000 998,000 of them are because of a form of birth control.

00:31:13.000 Do you find something wrong with that?

00:31:16.000 Not necessarily.

00:31:18.000 Okay.

00:31:19.000 I think there is something wrong with that.

00:31:20.000 I think that just looking at the last resort to be able to terminate human life as a form of birth control is not just sick, it's immoral.

00:31:27.000 And it says a lot about who we are as a people and kind of the folding of a cultural life in our nation.

00:31:35.000 And so I'll just ask one final question When does human life begin?

00:31:38.000 It begins at conception, but that doesn't override the right to bodily autonomy and self protection.

00:31:42.000 Okay, so that's interesting.

00:31:43.000 So it does begin at conception.

00:31:45.000 So does that mean someone who is larger than another being has the right to terminate them?

00:31:49.000 Because why is it bodily autonomy?

00:31:51.000 Just because the being is in them?

00:31:52.000 The size doesn't matter, it's the self defense.

00:31:57.000 If a toddler is running a knife at you, you can knock it down.

00:32:02.000 I'm sorry, I'm kind of impromptu here, so we can get back to that.

00:32:07.000 That's okay, yeah.

00:32:08.000 So, I'll just close with this.

00:32:10.000 Don't use that analogy again.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, no, that was a bad one.

00:32:14.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:32:15.000 Thanks.

00:32:21.000 Hey, thank you so much for coming out here and for facing disagreements first, I guess.

00:32:27.000 I really appreciate it.

00:32:28.000 All right, I had another question coming up here, but I really, the bait is there and I have to take it.

00:32:35.000 So, I am also pro choice.

00:32:38.000 And I was wondering how, like, you said to the previous dude back there that the government, in cases where human life is at risk, should step in through any means necessary, be it through mandates, be it through bans, things like that, right?

00:32:58.000 Again, that was a hypothetical answer.

00:32:59.000 Let me clarify it.

00:33:00.000 I think the government has a moral obligation to protect innocent life when confronted with the question of someone intervening to end that life.

00:33:08.000 So, if a police officer is standing idly by and he sees someone on the side of the street and someone is going by to about to kill them, the police officer, being an agent of the government, has a moral right to intervene.

00:33:17.000 I'm sorry, I do have to take a little bit of a caveat here.

00:33:20.000 So, the behavior of the police officers in the Uvalde shooting was disgusting.

00:33:26.000 Oh, I totally agree.

00:33:28.000 Do you believe?

00:33:28.000 Okay.

00:33:29.000 But guess what?

00:33:29.000 I'm consistent.

00:33:30.000 The cowardice that happened at Uvalde is the cowardice we allow to happen when there are a million abortions in our country every single year.

00:33:37.000 Okay, okay.

00:33:39.000 Which is standing idly by when children unspeakably get massacred?

00:33:45.000 I don't know.

00:33:46.000 I think there's a bit of a difference.

00:33:47.000 And the analogy that I usually use, or the question that I usually ask pro life people, is do you believe that the government should mandate organ donation, even in cases of things like donating your kidney?

00:34:02.000 Or right now, we have a policy where even after death, if you have religious things where you have to.

00:34:08.000 Sorry, that's not me.

00:34:13.000 No.

00:34:15.000 Where, you know, your whole body has to be intact in order for, like, burial rites and things like that to happen.

00:34:20.000 We say that you shouldn't have to donate your organs, but the pro life case seems to extend to the idea that even people who are living should have to give up their kidneys to people in hospitals, maybe, who need kidneys.

00:34:33.000 Well, I don't quite see it that way.

00:34:36.000 What makes a uterus different?

00:34:38.000 Well, first of all, again, in 99.67% of the cases, The woman made a choice that could potentially. 0.76

00:34:44.000 And what about those 0.4%?

00:34:46.000 What do you think should happen then? 1.00

00:34:47.000 Oh, I think the baby should be delivered, of course, because I'll give you an example.

00:34:50.000 Let me just prove it to you. 0.93

00:34:51.000 If I had two ultrasounds, and one of them was a baby conceived in rape, and one was a baby conceived in consensual sex. 0.88

00:34:57.000 Well, of course.

00:34:58.000 Which one is it?

00:35:01.000 They look the same.

00:35:02.000 I do understand.

00:35:03.000 But you can't tell because they're both human beings.

00:35:06.000 And in Western morality, of which I'm defending tonight, doing something wrong after something evil.

00:35:12.000 It's never the right thing.

00:35:13.000 So, do you think that government should mandate organ donations?

00:35:17.000 No, and I think it's a false equivalency.

00:35:19.000 For more reasons than one, for a lot of different reasons.

00:35:22.000 By the question of do I think the government should come in and protect innocent life from being slaughtered, of course I do.

00:35:28.000 Yes.

00:35:30.000 And that's the answer.

00:35:32.000 So, I mean, when it comes to mandating organ donations, I don't even see how that's applicable to the question. 0.53

00:35:39.000 Because in 99.6% of the cases, 67% of the cases, The mother made a choice to be able to get pregnant.

00:35:46.000 Now, in the very small micron kind of case, then the case is that the human life and the human being needs to exist, needs to be able to exist.

00:35:57.000 All right, I'm going to argue that different forms of birth control have different forms of effectiveness, and someone could be potentially on birth control using those control methods, and it fails.

00:36:09.000 Is that just a risk that someone just.

00:36:11.000 Yeah, so I'm going to say something.

00:36:14.000 This is how far our morality has gone. 0.87

00:36:17.000 We need to teach kids to save themselves for marriage.

00:36:21.000 And a lot of these problems wouldn't be having. 0.80

00:36:25.000 And if you do decide to engage in consensual marriage before sex before marriage and you get pregnant, that's the cost of the game. 0.80

00:36:34.000 All right. 0.95

00:36:34.000 Okay. 0.95

00:36:35.000 Thank you for being here.

00:36:36.000 Appreciate it.

00:36:41.000 Howdy.

00:36:42.000 This may be the hardest question all night, but I really have to ask it.

00:36:47.000 So, right now on October 12th, 2022.

00:36:49.000 It is DeSantis or Trump.

00:36:52.000 Right here.

00:36:53.000 We need an answer.

00:36:55.000 I'll repeat it.

00:36:56.000 I get it everywhere I go, so I need to like play the tape.

00:36:59.000 Did you want to say anything else with that?

00:37:00.000 No, that's okay.

00:37:01.000 The question is, Charlie, will you support DeSantis or Trump in 2024?

00:37:04.000 So, okay, speaking personally, not on behalf of Turning Point USA, I'll say what I've always said, which is I'm a very loyal person.

00:37:11.000 I told President Trump if he runs again, I'm going to have his back 100%.

00:37:15.000 And I can't stand in politics when people are wishy washy and wavering.

00:37:23.000 We had our Turning Point Actions draw poll, and Donald Trump won with 78.7% of the results.

00:37:28.000 But, and it's a very big one, I got to tell you, That Ron DeSantis might be a once in a generation leader.

00:37:34.000 He's very special.

00:37:36.000 And I don't know when, I don't know how, but I would not be surprised if he's president of the United States one day.

00:37:43.000 And I think he would make a great president.

00:37:45.000 But I'll close with this I think he would make a good president.

00:37:50.000 I know Trump was a great president.

00:37:52.000 And that's why I'm behind him.

00:37:53.000 Great answer.

00:37:53.000 Thank you.

00:38:00.000 So, hi.

00:38:02.000 Oh, you have the whole mic?

00:38:03.000 Okay.

00:38:04.000 He's actually my friend.

00:38:07.000 I actually first heard of you through a Christian apologist I follow called Dr. Frank Turk.

00:38:11.000 He's special.

00:38:12.000 He's great.

00:38:13.000 He's awesome.

00:38:14.000 He's a great friend.

00:38:16.000 My question concerns the hope and love we can have for America.

00:38:19.000 I mean, we live in a country that has allowed for 63 million deaths through the abortion industry, and we have multiple industries and institutions that are built on lies and lust.

00:38:32.000 Of American citizens either don't care or even approve of all of this.

00:38:37.000 So, where do you think we can go, the individual people, the church, and the government, to where can we go from having hope and love for our country at this point?

00:38:46.000 It's a very dark picture you painted.

00:38:48.000 Congratulations.

00:38:49.000 Anything else you want to add to that?

00:38:51.000 Well, first of all, you know, I assume you're a Christian.

00:38:53.000 And so, I mean, it's up to us Christians.

00:38:56.000 There's two things Christians can't be apathetic or cynical.

00:38:59.000 I won't put up with it. 0.95

00:39:00.000 You're secular, you could be apathetic and cynical. 1.00

00:39:02.000 You're a Christian? 1.00

00:39:03.000 I'm not going to put up with it. 1.00

00:39:05.000 Because you know how the story ends, and you have a great hope, and you should always be working towards a great end.

00:39:09.000 You should care about your nation, Jeremiah 29, 7.

00:39:11.000 Demand the welfare of the nation that you are in, because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:39:15.000 Daniel fasted and prayed for his nation.

00:39:17.000 Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Esther, Mordecai all cared about the welfare.

00:39:20.000 Yep, exactly.

00:39:22.000 Pray for your leaders by name, because they're counselors to the king.

00:39:25.000 And so, look, I think we have a lot of hope, and the hope is not in the institutions, not in the FBI, it's not in the DOJ, it's not in the CIA, it's not in Facebook, it's not in Google, it's not in Goldman Sachs.

00:39:32.000 My hope is in the energy and the spirit and the optimism of you.

00:39:36.000 I mean, what I get to see in the American people traveling the country, hosting a national radio show, hosting a podcast, I'm nothing but hopeful.

00:39:43.000 The spirit in the grassroots of the American people right now, of all ages and backgrounds, is so awe inspiring.

00:39:48.000 And it doesn't take a majority, it doesn't.

00:39:50.000 It takes 10 to 15 percent of a vibrant, hopeful, spirit filled group of people that can turn things around.

00:39:58.000 And, you know, we as Americans have done great things, and there's something special about America.

00:40:02.000 I will defend it at all corners.

00:40:04.000 And one of the things that makes America different is when something bad happens, we step up.

00:40:09.000 Is that we have it in our history to not be apathetic.

00:40:13.000 We have exceptions to that rule, obviously.

00:40:15.000 And my hope is in what I'm seeing across the country.

00:40:17.000 My hope is in pastors rising up.

00:40:20.000 My hope is in people that are starting to speak boldly.

00:40:22.000 My hope is in parents showing up to school board meetings and challenging what is being taught in these local public schools.

00:40:29.000 My hope is in parents that are homeschooling.

00:40:32.000 My hope is in our Turning Point USA chapter leaders that are starting these chapters, that are in the grassroots, that are on high school and college campuses leaning in.

00:40:40.000 That's what gives me hope.

00:40:41.000 The institutions, here's the cool thing about institutions they come and go and they build and they crumble.

00:40:46.000 But the spirit and the will of the people, I think, is stronger than any other time I've been doing this in one decade.

00:40:51.000 And I think that resolve is only going to strengthen.

00:40:53.000 So, God bless you, man.

00:40:55.000 God bless you.

00:40:55.000 Thank you.

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00:42:16.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:42:17.000 I'm Jamie, and I'm actually from New York, and I was one of the only conservative people in my school, so it's really cool to see you talk here.

00:42:25.000 My question is since we live in a world where big tech and digital tracking affects Payments and information dominate the avenues to being social, attaining many jobs, and being in academia.

00:42:34.000 Do you think in my lifetime we'll see a world where cash is obsolete?

00:42:38.000 And how do I protect my privacy of personal information, such as vaccine status, while still being able to stay social and attain a corporate job and perhaps also enjoying other luxuries in which releasing this information is required?

00:42:51.000 Yeah, well, that's a great question.

00:42:53.000 So let me kind of tell you it's hard to do all those things, right?

00:42:56.000 It's going to be hard to keep a corporate job and also keep all of your kind of medical information private because for whatever reason we decided to throw out HIPAA.

00:43:03.000 And ask everyone for their personal medical information about the vaccine, which never should have been allowed, in my personal opinion.

00:43:09.000 But look, as far as the currency question, it's a very important question.

00:43:13.000 What PayPal announced and then what PayPal attracted should just scare everyone, regardless of political affiliation.

00:43:20.000 Where PayPal came out and they said that if you engage in their definition of disinformation, they're going to take $2,500 out of your account on violation.

00:43:30.000 Now, they backed away from that, but this is a company that did $25 billion in revenue.

00:43:35.000 How on earth?

00:43:36.000 Did they ever get this approved through?

00:43:39.000 How did this get on a press release?

00:43:40.000 How did this become policy?

00:43:42.000 You just saw today, you might like him, you might not like him.

00:43:44.000 You might think he's great, you might think he went too far recently.

00:43:47.000 But Kanye West just got an alert from JPMorgan Chase.

00:43:51.000 He's no longer allowed to bank at JPMorgan Chase.

00:43:54.000 And that's wrong.

00:43:55.000 I don't care what you think of Kanye West.

00:43:56.000 To be able to shut somebody's banking system off because you don't like them or because they say something that you deem to not be appropriate.

00:44:04.000 And so there's something very troubling about that.

00:44:07.000 And so, how do you protect against it?

00:44:09.000 I don't think it's the end all be all.

00:44:11.000 I don't think it's a solution to everything, but I am a big fan of cryptocurrency.

00:44:14.000 I think that blockchain properly employed can be a great hedge against tyranny.

00:44:18.000 I think that the federal government is trying to make us cashless soon, and we have to resist, and I'm telling you, resist very loudly against the federal government trying to put forward a federal digital currency.

00:44:29.000 It's a very, very big concern.

00:44:31.000 It hasn't gotten a lot of focus on it, but a federal digital currency is a very big issue.

00:44:35.000 We've already seen the intentional debasing of our currency.

00:44:39.000 I don't agree with libertarians on a lot of things, but the one thing I'm 100% on is the destruction of our money.

00:44:44.000 I have to tell you, the Federal Reserve intentionally coming into our money system and creating money out of thin air and making you poor year after year after year through quantitative easing is something that we should all be very concerned about.

00:44:56.000 I'm afraid they're trying to get us closer to a currency reset.

00:44:59.000 And so part of it is just owning assets that can be moved quickly that are transparent.

00:45:04.000 That's one of the things that excites me about Bitcoin.

00:45:06.000 Again, I'm not telling you to buy Bitcoin.

00:45:07.000 If I did, I could get in trouble like Kim Kardashian did.

00:45:09.000 Do whatever you want to do.

00:45:10.000 I don't care.

00:45:11.000 I think it's good technology, and I think crypto can solve some of these problems.

00:45:15.000 But their agenda is trying to get us to go cashless.

00:45:18.000 And also, I remember over winter break last year when I was in New York, I couldn't even enter buildings or eat in a restaurant.

00:45:26.000 I still love a lot of other aspects of New York, and I was kind of hoping to stay there.

00:45:30.000 Do you think it would be worth it, or do you think being unvaccinated and a conservative, it's just like.

00:45:37.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:45:39.000 Only you can answer it.

00:45:40.000 My question would be where do you feel free and happy?

00:45:43.000 And if you feel free in New York, God bless you, I got to tell you.

00:45:46.000 That's.

00:45:48.000 That's not exactly what I feel when I go to New York.

00:45:50.000 I feel a lot of things.

00:45:51.000 That is definitely not it.

00:45:53.000 But we can't, I have a mixed opinion on this.

00:45:55.000 I have a couple things that I say that I totally contradict myself.

00:45:59.000 This is one of them. 0.67

00:46:00.000 So I'll give one speech where I tell everyone to go move to red states.

00:46:05.000 And then I'll give another speech where I say we can't have all the people leave blue states because we still need red thinking people, if you will, in those states.

00:46:12.000 And so I contradict myself on that all the time because I see it both ways.

00:46:17.000 I grew up in Illinois.

00:46:19.000 And I'm glad I don't live there anymore.

00:46:21.000 And part of me feels bad that I left, but also I think life is so important, you should try your best to live in a free society.

00:46:28.000 And there's still some great states, Texas being one of them, that I think gets it.

00:46:31.000 So God bless you.

00:46:32.000 Thank you.

00:46:38.000 I'm here with a group of students from the UT Pro Life Club, so we're really thankful for your pro life stance.

00:46:38.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:46:44.000 My question is about like phone addiction and sort of this switch to transhumanism that's going on in our culture right now.

00:46:51.000 It's really worrying me with my generation that we're so addicted and we don't even realize it.

00:46:57.000 So, I was wondering your perspective.

00:46:59.000 That's a really, really great question.

00:47:01.000 Thank you for your advocacy.

00:47:03.000 The pro life group here deserves a lot of credit because, based on what I saw today, you guys are up against a lot.

00:47:08.000 Seriously.

00:47:10.000 It's great.

00:47:14.000 I'm not a fan of our digital pacifiers that have seemed to permeate our entire society.

00:47:20.000 I really believe that we are participating in the largest.

00:47:24.000 And most cruel open air drug experiment in human history, which is to give these devices to 12, 13, and 14 year olds.

00:47:31.000 There's some really great thinkers on this, not political.

00:47:34.000 You could just read Dr. Anna Lemke.

00:47:37.000 You can go read Andrew Huberman, who I think is really smart.

00:47:40.000 He spends a lot of time here in Austin.

00:47:42.000 And they're very fair and they're very well cited and researched.

00:47:46.000 And they just talk about the neurological damage that staring at a phone will do, especially at a young age.

00:47:53.000 And I look at it no differently than giving kids drugs.

00:47:56.000 And so, the one thing, and I wish that Marxist, I don't know if he's the leftist, was here, and I wish he would have said it.

00:48:00.000 I would also say, and this is, if you want to talk about one of the great hockey stick correlations and not get too ahead of yourself, if you look at suicide and depression or just kind of what would be a kind of like a basket of how you would define mental health, and like how you say, okay, good or bad, it went up like a hockey stick in 2013 as the iPhone was widely distributed. 0.58

00:48:21.000 And again, I'm not a big causation correlation guy, but it's like, come on, what else could you possibly attribute?

00:48:26.000 Like, what has changed the most in our day to day interaction at a restaurant in the last 10 years?

00:48:30.000 Let's just be honest, right?

00:48:32.000 I see entire families out to dinner and no one's talking to each other.

00:48:36.000 I think it's deeply unhealthy.

00:48:37.000 I think it's antisocial.

00:48:38.000 And it's not even governmental or political in nature.

00:48:42.000 So, I mean, just some stats I have here 26% of car accidents are caused by smartphone usage.

00:48:48.000 31% of smartphone users in the U.S. never turn off their phones.

00:48:51.000 45% of children aged 10 to 12 have a smartphone.

00:48:55.000 45% of teens feel addicted to their smartphone devices.

00:48:58.000 It's bad for both boys and girls.

00:49:00.000 It's especially bad for girls.

00:49:01.000 I think TikTok is one of the worst things ever to come across the American.

00:49:06.000 Technological landscape.

00:49:07.000 I really do.

00:49:10.000 And it's okay if you're addicted.

00:49:12.000 I know some of you applauding are probably addicted.

00:49:14.000 That's fine, I understand.

00:49:16.000 And so, just a final piece on this I turn my phone off Friday night to Saturday night.

00:49:20.000 I encourage all of you guys to take a phone Sabbath once a week.

00:49:24.000 It's very freeing, it's awesome.

00:49:26.000 It's a challenge, too, because you got to kind of figure out how to get directions and where to go.

00:49:31.000 It's really fun.

00:49:32.000 And you could do it.

00:49:33.000 Just take one day a week and turn off your phone.

00:49:36.000 Within three weeks, all of your friends will know you're unreachable by phone.

00:49:40.000 From Friday night to Saturday night, you'll be in a grocery store and you won't know what to do when you're waiting in line.

00:49:46.000 You're like, wow, this is how it used to be.

00:49:48.000 It's very freeing.

00:49:50.000 And just the final thing is this I'm far from an expert, but if you read Dr. Anna Lemke's book, Dopamine Nation, you will have a picture into how horrific the damage we're doing to give these kids devices.

00:50:03.000 There's other books as well.

00:50:04.000 Gary Wilson wrote an unrelated book, but important, especially for young men Your Brain on Pornography or Your Brain on Porn.

00:50:10.000 May he rest in peace.

00:50:10.000 He was a great thinker.

00:50:11.000 But there's like this whole new genre of scientific thinking that I think is legit science, by the way, of people that are a little ahead of the curve diagnosing what I think is going to be 10 years from now.

00:50:22.000 We're going to look back and be like, what were we doing giving all these kids devices?

00:50:26.000 So you still have the power to turn off your phone.

00:50:28.000 I know it's hard, but it's doing huge damage to young people in particular.

00:50:32.000 Thank you.

00:50:32.000 Appreciate it.

00:50:39.000 Hi, my name is Jackson.

00:50:40.000 I'm actually the editor in chief of our conservative paper on campus at Texas Horn.

00:50:50.000 So, you'd expect me to agree with most of what you said, and I do, but there's one area of disagreement where I really feel the need to push back, and that, of course, is on the vaccine.

00:50:57.000 So, I'd like to talk about your Florida study, which showed an 84% in heart problems among young men who took the vaccine.

00:51:05.000 So, I was interested in this report, and I actually just Googled it.

00:51:08.000 And if you look in the chart on page six of the report, you see that the basis period is 17 deaths.

00:51:14.000 Like before, due to these heart palpitations among men 18 to 34, whatever it was.

00:51:20.000 So, an 84% increase from 17 deaths is bad, but it is nowhere near the 20 million plus who have been killed due to COVID.

00:51:29.000 So, I just like to hear how you weigh that from an 84% increase from 17 deaths against 20 million plus killed by COVID more, if not for the vaccine.

00:51:38.000 Right.

00:51:39.000 So, and I'll repeat the VAERS data, right?

00:51:41.000 The vaccine adverse event reporting system from the government, right?

00:51:44.000 Where it says there's 52,896 incidents of myocarditis and pericarditis.

00:51:49.000 But let me ask you a dip, let me ask it differently where I think we could come to a quick conclusion.

00:51:53.000 Do you agree that myocarditis and pericarditis is increasing dramatically?

00:51:58.000 I do, yes, from a very low base rate.

00:52:00.000 Right.

00:52:00.000 Why?

00:52:01.000 Well, I mean, obviously, the vaccine is the prime suspect.

00:52:05.000 But if you have a very rare disease and it increases by slight amounts, then you have to make the trade off and say that something which is killing millions of people is worse.

00:52:14.000 No, no, no.

00:52:14.000 I understand that.

00:52:15.000 That's a separate argument, right?

00:52:16.000 But do you agree that it's probably the vaccine that's causing these cardiac issues?

00:52:19.000 That seems to be the most likely.

00:52:21.000 Okay.

00:52:21.000 So we agree the vaccine is causing heart damage.

00:52:23.000 We don't know how much, right?

00:52:25.000 It says in the VAERS database 52,896 incidents of myocarditis and pericarditis.

00:52:29.000 You saw the hands around the room.

00:52:31.000 And just one other anecdotal thing.

00:52:33.000 I asked my audience, I said, how many people in our podcast audience have instances of people that got the vaccine and mysteriously died or had heart attacks?

00:52:41.000 We have like 10,000, 15,000 emails, one after the other.

00:52:44.000 And I would just encourage you go look at Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the nation's leading cardiologists who has spoken out about this, right?

00:52:51.000 Dr. Robert Malone, and also previously uninterested in this topic, who I just think is great, Dr. Brett Weinstein, who hosts the Dark Horse podcast.

00:53:01.000 He's a liberal, he used to be a professor at Evergreen State University.

00:53:05.000 And I think his scholarship is great.

00:53:07.000 So I don't want to redo the conversation we had previously, but thanks for being here tonight.

00:53:10.000 Thank you.

00:53:11.000 Thank you.

00:53:14.000 Okay, so I'm one of the first agreeers.

00:53:17.000 All the disagreeers are first.

00:53:19.000 But anyway, one thing I don't think is pushed strong enough by the pro life is adoption.

00:53:24.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:53:24.000 Because, I mean, that kills it all entirely.

00:53:27.000 There's so many families that want to adopt kids.

00:53:29.000 And if you see a show like Long Lost Family, you see these people that reunite with their biological parents.

00:53:35.000 20, 30 years after they're born, and they live wonderful lives, and they have two sets of parents, and it's a wonderful thing.

00:53:41.000 So, if you know this whole discussion on, oh, the mom is going to be, you know, live a terrible life, she can't afford to have the child.

00:53:48.000 But there are, I think, something like 30 families for every one child that's adopted that want kids.

00:53:54.000 I think it needs to be pushed stronger, you know.

00:53:56.000 I totally agree.

00:53:58.000 And you know, I want to shout out my friend who runs a great clinic in San Antonio, who does a phenomenal job for the pro life movement.

00:54:04.000 And by the way, I know we don't like the term crisis pregnancy center, right?

00:54:08.000 It's not our favorite term.

00:54:09.000 But Dave McCaw does such a great job.

00:54:13.000 And I got to tell you that the people that are on the front lines of this deserve a lot of credit.

00:54:18.000 Elizabeth Warren says she wants pregnancy crisis centers to be shut down, which is unbelievable.

00:54:22.000 But I'll say this, and I think you're right.

00:54:24.000 And I didn't make this point clearly enough earlier at the table.

00:54:27.000 If we are going to advocate an end to abortion using the state or government, then we have to be there to make sure that every single child is taken care of.

00:54:37.000 Through charity, through churches, and through resources necessary.

00:54:40.000 It's morally imperative we do that.

00:54:42.000 And adoption is that first step.

00:54:44.000 God bless you.

00:54:45.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:54:45.000 Well, no, I've got more.

00:54:46.000 Because if you read Peter Zion's book, I mean, China's population is going to collapse in the next 20 years just because of the one child policy. 0.69

00:54:55.000 I mean, we need to have kids. 0.96

00:54:56.000 Your nation dies.

00:54:58.000 The population collapse is coming here big time.

00:55:01.000 Well, according to Peter Zion, we're doing okay. 1.00

00:55:03.000 And we've got immigration, too.

00:55:05.000 I agree with Elon Musk.

00:55:06.000 I think we're.

00:55:06.000 You think it's declining?

00:55:07.000 Okay, but we need to have kids regardless.

00:55:09.000 God bless you, man.

00:55:10.000 But okay, but I bet I got one more question.

00:55:11.000 We got to get to another one.

00:55:12.000 I'm sorry.

00:55:12.000 Thank you.

00:55:13.000 Thanks.

00:55:15.000 Hi.

00:55:16.000 Sorry, we're short on time, sir.

00:55:17.000 Sorry.

00:55:18.000 Hello.

00:55:18.000 I'm asking a question for friends.

00:55:20.000 If I sound stupid, this is not on me. 0.98

00:55:23.000 So let's agree that abortion should be banned, and this is the government's right to protect the rights of kids and whatnot. 0.98

00:55:32.000 And so we see a lot of statistics where kids going into foster care homes or things of that nature tend to be abused or sexual abused to a certain extent.

00:55:40.000 So, what would you say is the government's Solution and role in this whole situation.

00:55:44.000 Yeah, I'll piggyback on the kind of question previously, which is we have to change the way we do adoption in our country.

00:55:49.000 I would, again, a lot of people find this to be terrible, but I will lean on this.

00:55:54.000 I think we have to lean on the church who has the infrastructure and essentially these parachurch ministries, and they have the willingness to be able to do this and to support adoption.

00:56:03.000 There are two million people right now that want to adopt in America.

00:56:07.000 Two million people.

00:56:09.000 And I bet that would double or triple if the pastors of this nation really challenge their congregation to lean in and to adopt.

00:56:16.000 If you're going to be consistent as a pro life person, you have to come up with solutions.

00:56:21.000 And the solution should be we have to make it financially easier to have children, we should go maybe as far as Hungary goes.

00:56:27.000 Which is to pay people to have kids. 0.92

00:56:29.000 I'm not against it.

00:56:30.000 I'm not.

00:56:30.000 We should go as far to make sure that adoption is easy and seamless.

00:56:33.000 And then we also have to individually and charitably step up to make sure that this idea of an unwanted pregnancy is a thing of the past.

00:56:41.000 Thank you.

00:56:42.000 Thank you.

00:56:42.000 Appreciate it.

00:56:46.000 I know you.

00:56:46.000 Yes, you do.

00:56:47.000 What's up, man?

00:56:48.000 What's going on?

00:56:49.000 Great final question.

00:56:50.000 Yes, yes.

00:56:51.000 Quick question.

00:56:51.000 You said we should stop talking about racism, but we have a problem in the country.

00:56:56.000 You're not a racist.

00:56:57.000 As often as I've been around you, you've never said anything that has been racist.

00:57:01.000 But the left, they constantly say that you're racist.

00:57:04.000 And if we don't talk about the problem that they're trying to create, it will never go away.

00:57:09.000 Yeah, so what I was saying, and I think you'd agree, I'm exhausted with talking about race all the time, right?

00:57:15.000 And I'm happy to also push back on who's actually the ones that are being racist.

00:57:21.000 And the people that are pushing black only dormitories in America, that's racist, right?

00:57:26.000 The people that are saying that we should have value on skin color and not contents of character, that's racist.

00:57:33.000 And so I'm just exhausted about talking about it all the time, honestly, because I feel as if when you focus on those issues, like, man, we're just constantly talking about what divides us, right?

00:57:44.000 And I think you understand my heart in that way.

00:57:45.000 Exactly.

00:57:46.000 But it's only the left that's constantly pushing that.

00:57:49.000 They're constantly pushing that.

00:57:50.000 And I get it all the time.

00:57:51.000 So thank you.

00:57:52.000 God bless you, men.

00:57:53.000 Thank you so much.

00:57:56.000 All right, everybody.

00:57:57.000 This was a lot of fun.

00:57:58.000 A couple things.

00:57:59.000 Support your Turning Point USA chapter, they're doing an amazing job.

00:58:03.000 I want to thank UT for hosting us nicely.

00:58:05.000 Really appreciate that.

00:58:06.000 Closing note, we live in a beautiful country.

00:58:09.000 Do something about it.

00:58:09.000 Make sure you're registered to vote.

00:58:11.000 I'm not going to tell you who to vote for tonight.

00:58:12.000 Just make sure you're registered to vote and make sure you vote.

00:58:14.000 A lot of people gave a lot for you to be able to vote in this country, be an informed citizen, stay engaged, stay involved.

00:58:21.000 America is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:58:24.000 God bless you guys.

00:58:24.000 Thank you so much.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 02, 2026

Charlie Debates the Students at the University of Texas

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