The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Debates The Students of Oxford

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk show, my formal debate at Oxford University.

00:00:04.000 The way they do it is that you have 10 minutes of debate and it goes back and forth and back and forth.

00:00:10.000 And I think you'll enjoy it.

00:00:11.000 I am the final debater.

00:00:12.000 as you have to listen to a lot of lies on how the ruling class of Oxford feels about President Trump.

00:00:18.000 I think you'll really enjoy this discussion and a lot of people think we won.

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00:00:42.000 We go.

00:00:43.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:44.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:47.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:50.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:53.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:54.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:55.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:04.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:12.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:16.000 I put the motion before the House.

00:01:18.000 This House believes that Trump has gone too far.

00:01:21.000 And opening the case for the proposition is Anya Trafamovia, librarian, St. John's College.

00:01:25.000 Thank you.

00:01:27.000 Thank you.

00:01:32.000 I yield the chair to Mina Malala, I'm Chief of Staff.

00:01:35.000 This House believes that Trump has gone too far.

00:01:38.000 Trump has tanked the American economy with a $2.4 trillion deficit.

00:01:44.000 But side opposition will tell you that Trump has not gone too far.

00:01:49.000 Trump is gutting the global economy, but their side will tell you that Trump has not gone too far.

00:01:55.000 Trump has ruined NATO.

00:01:57.000 Trump has slashed global aid.

00:01:59.000 Trump has all but abolished the rule of law.

00:02:02.000 But the opposition will still tell you that he has not gone too far.

00:02:05.000 Trump has deported American citizens to camps without fair trial.

00:02:10.000 But the opposition will still tell you he has not gone too far.

00:02:14.000 Trump's budget will deny 14 million American citizens health care.

00:02:19.000 Would 15 million be too far?

00:02:21.000 Would 30?

00:02:23.000 This is just year one.

00:02:25.000 But no, still the opposition will tell you Trump has not gone too far.

00:02:30.000 Trump is intent on relegating women to. 0.99

00:02:33.000 second class citizens.

00:02:34.000 Trump wants to end free speech as we know it.

00:02:37.000 He is bankrolling Israel's Gaza genocide and he's cozied up to Putin while throwing Ukraine under the bus.

00:02:44.000 And Trump single-handedly has set the history profession back God knows how many years by proving the great man theory of history right as the single most destructive individual of the 21st century.

00:02:57.000 But no, Trump hasn't gone too far.

00:03:00.000 The noble Charlie Kirk will tell you Trump is not ambitious.

00:03:03.000 If it were so, it is a grievous fault and grievously has Trump answered it.

00:03:08.000 I speak not to disprove what Kirk will say, but I am here to speak what I do know.

00:03:13.000 Many Americans voted for Trump and not without cause.

00:03:17.000 America is in crisis.

00:03:19.000 It is a democracy dictated by corporate interests, by disillusionment and disarray.

00:03:24.000 But Trump is not the solution.

00:03:26.000 In only 100 days, he has not only gone too far, he has taken steps to fundamentally unravel the constitution of the founding fathers, paralyze the courts and send the world lurching towards financial ruin.

00:03:38.000 He has slashed USAID by 62%, leaving key humanitarian operations in Somalia, Haiti and Myanmar adrift.8%, Trump has about as much hope of controlling inflation levels as he does trying to rein in his own inflated ego.

00:03:58.000 In only 100 days, the Trump's family's net worth has increased 3 billion.

00:04:03.000 That's about 1 billion a month since the time he took office.

00:04:07.000 In that same amount of time, Trump has only signed five bills into law, marking the single worst performance to a start of a president's term in more than a century.

00:04:17.000 The only thing that Trump has not gone quite far enough in is fashion.

00:04:22.000 If you're going to use the fascist playbook, you might at least get Hugo Boss to design your MAGA hats.

00:04:29.000 Madam President, Thank you for the incredible honour of speaking in this debate tonight.

00:04:34.000 I'm glad to see you hosting a debate on a president that's gone too far.

00:04:38.000 Although you yourself haven't tried to force through rules reforms in the House, appoint over 50 of your friends to committee as nappu babies, or strike half of the Union's electoral officials, which in my opinion shows that you clearly haven't gone far enough.

00:04:54.000 That being said, you still have over four weeks left in office and I'm incredibly excited to see where you will go from here.

00:05:00.000 On a more serious note, I'm excited and happy to see the members of the Union, unlike our counterparts in America, are more comfortable with electing a highly qualified woman to the most senior office in this society.

00:05:13.000 I hope that any American friends in the audience tonight are taking notes.

00:05:20.000 On the subject of gas, those with an observant eye will have seen in the term card that Nayib Bukali, our president of El Salvador, will be paying us a visit later in the term.

00:05:29.000 I hope that the president will ask him about his recent illegal incarceration of American citizens at the instruction of his American sugar daddy, who's currently pigging it out in his $400 million palace in the sky.

00:05:42.000 Sorry, I meant gift of a jet from Qatar.

00:05:45.000 Just yesterday, the USA was downgraded from its last AAA credit rating with Moody citing insurmountable concerns about fiscal debt and tax cut legislation.

00:05:55.000 Getting an A, I should explain, Charlie, is something that you do in school.

00:05:59.000 And I'd like at this point to apologize to my dear tutor, Dr. Laura Smith, who is speaking also on side proposition.

00:06:06.000 I promise that you will have the essay next week.

00:06:08.000 I've been a little too caught up in writing this speech.

00:06:12.000 Actually, if there is any chance of changing the topic to Trump's America, I might have the essay half written.

00:06:17.000 In 100 days and by fiat alone, Trump has signed 70 executive orders and pardoned over 70 individuals convicted for the January 6th insurrection.

00:06:29.000 He has rolled out and then rolled back in tariffs on over 90 countries.

00:06:34.000 They say that the past repeats itself, but it seems that backsliding into the authoritarianism of the 1930s has come a decade early.

00:06:42.000 To say he has not gone too far, as the opposition must, is to say that any one of the individually unacceptable acts of which there are too many to list, are actually acceptable and more than this, good.

00:06:54.000 A vote for the opposition is a vote that it is good to storm Congress, to bribe escorts.

00:07:00.000 It's a vote for a president who won't rule out the possibility of running for a third term because it is quote too early to think about, all the while making the lives of ordinary people immeasurably worse.

00:07:12.000 Actually, it is measurably worse.

00:07:14.000 Under Trump, you can be thousands of dollars poorer.

00:07:18.000 Trump appointed Elon Musk to run Doge.

00:07:21.000 Musk, a man that thinks that grass is something you smoke, and who thinks that a meme is when you cut 30 million people's pensions.

00:07:28.000 After the new Nazi Charlottesville riot, Trump famously said that there are some very fine people on both sides, a sentiment that he clearly took to heart in appointing Elon, a man whose love of throwing Roman salutes is second only to a self-proclaimed love of Catamin.

00:07:45.000 But then perhaps Trump and Elon is just the ultimate story of male friendship.

00:07:51.000 After buying Twitter because he didn't have any real-life friends, Musk with Twitter can join Trump with Truth Social in the enviable company of probably not a lizard, Mark Zuckerberg, and in the I Own My Own Social Media Club.

00:08:05.000 Now, Charlie, I'm sorry you got left out here, but I don't think that having kids pretend to be MAGA Youth for Instagram reels quite cuts it. 0.90

00:08:12.000 Trump is not just corrupt, not just a moral vacuum, but he is an ego out of control. 0.90

00:08:18.000 He's a danger to himself and to others. 0.99

00:08:22.000 He's authoritarian and impulsive.

00:08:24.000 Now, it's a bit rich for the Union with its recent leadership to talk of presidents being authoritarian and impulsive.

00:08:33.000 That being said, perhaps America could take a leaf out of the Union's playbook and try removing their president, even the ones that have been democratically elected.

00:08:42.000 If you don't think that Trump has gone too far, At what point would you say that he has crossed the Rubicon?

00:08:48.000 If your neighbour is deported in the middle of the night, probably killed, if books are burned, if there is martial law on the streets if your sister isn't allowed to go to high school.

00:09:01.000 Go on, Trump.

00:09:02.000 Go for the Gilead.

00:09:03.000 Trump's whirlwind blitzkrieg of abuse in only 100 days spells a dark future for us all.

00:09:10.000 I fear not only for America, but for the rest of the world.

00:09:13.000 So vote and vote for the proposition and as you vote, enjoy doing it.

00:09:19.000 Because in America, in a few years' time, at this current trajectory, you probably won't have such a luxury.

00:09:26.000 Thank you so much.

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00:10:30.000 I now look to Serene Singh, Christchurch College, to continue the case for the proposition.

00:10:43.000 As an American, I grew up on Disney, classic family entertainment.

00:10:48.000 However, one character always fascinated me.

00:10:51.000 It wasn't Mickey or Goofy.

00:10:53.000 No, it was Donald Duck.

00:10:55.000 Yeah, that Donald Duck, that cartoon duck, with the temper so bad that even my uncle at Thanksgiving looked like a saint.

00:11:02.000 But every time Donald tries, now in one episode, let me tell you about what Donald Duck did.

00:11:08.000 I remember this very vividly.

00:11:10.000 You see, Donald Duck was trying to fix up his old beat up car.

00:11:15.000 But every time Donald tries to start that car, the engine backfires.

00:11:19.000 The horn blasts, doors are flying open, the steering wheel's wobbling, smoke's billowing out.

00:11:25.000 But what does Donald do?

00:11:27.000 Does he stop and fix the thing?

00:11:29.000 No way.

00:11:30.000 He slams the gas pedal harder and harder.

00:11:33.000 No brakes, no pit stuff, no mechanic in sight.

00:11:36.000 Just pedal to the metal, baby.

00:11:39.000 As a kid, I watched an angry duck stomp around, shouting nonsense and driving his little cartoon car into walls.

00:11:47.000 I thought I'd left Donald behind when I grew up, but little did I know we'd have another Donald doing the exact same thing.

00:11:54.000 Every time he breaks something, a law, an election's integrity, a democratic norm, he slams the gas harder.

00:12:03.000 So when Americans and all of us today ask the question, has Trump gone too far?

00:12:08.000 I say, he's not just gone too far.

00:12:11.000 He's still going too far.

00:12:14.000 The only problem is this time the car is America.

00:12:18.000 So tonight I'll show you how President Trump has gone too far through three powerful realities.

00:12:23.000 First, division.

00:12:25.000 Second, distraction.

00:12:26.000 And third, deflection.

00:12:28.000 If even one of those holds true for you, Trump has gone too far.

00:12:32.000 You must affirm tonight's motion.

00:12:34.000 So first, as a Sikh American woman, the central tenant of my faith is that we are all one.

00:12:41.000 Many of us in this room believe this.

00:12:44.000 Trump has sought to divide us from one, one another, to from our allies, and three, even from the truth.

00:12:52.000 In dividing Americans from one another, President Trump has fueled fear and resentment between neighbors.

00:12:58.000 He calls political opponents vermin, brands immigrants as murderers, and attacks queer and trans-Americans.

00:13:05.000 According to the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, hate crimes across race, religion, gender, class, and disability have either increased or are projected to increase by more than 80 percent in Trump's America.

00:13:20.000 His rhetoric has deepened hostility among family, friends, and everyday people, making Americans who once saw family and community see enemies.

00:13:31.000 In dividing America from our allies, President Trump has praised autocrats while undermining democratic allies.

00:13:37.000 He supported policies enabling the mass forced displacement of Palestinians, displacement they continued to resist and endure.

00:13:45.000 He's threatened to acquire Canada and Greenland, floated military action in Panama, and publicly insulted NATO and leaders of the Ukraine.

00:13:55.000 while defending dictators like Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Xi Jinping.

00:14:01.000 This isolationist approach also divides Americans from number three, the truth.

00:14:06.000 President Trump has made it harder for Americans to trust facts.

00:14:10.000 And when Americans stop trusting the people who inform them of their public health, education, or their elections, they have nowhere else to look but towards him.

00:14:21.000 He's told Americans that the economy is booming.

00:14:23.000 While wages remain stagnant, homelessness has risen 12% in 2025 alone, and one in five children in the United States faces hunger in the wealthiest country on Earth.

00:14:35.000 He claimed he created the best health care in the world while millions remain uninsured.

00:14:40.000 And medical debt is still the leading cause of personal bankruptcy in the United States.

00:14:46.000 He paints climate change as a hoax, while wildfires, floods, and extreme heat worsen every year, and indigenous communities pay the price.

00:14:54.000 That's not just a spin, it's a strategy, because when Americans do not know what is true, they cannot demand what is just.

00:15:03.000 That's how he divides us, not only from each other, but from literally the reality we exist within.

00:15:09.000 So second, distraction.

00:15:12.000 You'll notice a pattern.

00:15:13.000 When there's a real fire, Trump pulls out the alarm somewhere else.

00:15:17.000 He doesn't address the root causes of crises.

00:15:20.000 He manufactures new ones to distract us from focusing on real problems.

00:15:25.000 I'm going to specifically address only three.

00:15:28.000 Safety in society, safety for women, and safety for children.

00:15:32.000 He claims he brings safety, law, and order, an interesting priority for someone who's been convicted of 34 felony counts.

00:15:40.000 But his solution, build more prisons, imprison more people, punish, and repeat.

00:15:46.000 Research shows that mass incarceration does not solve the issues that cause crime, poverty, mental illness, and addiction.

00:15:54.000 It punishes people for symptoms of real problems.

00:15:57.000 And if you still believe prisons solve crime, consider this.

00:16:01.000 America locks up more people than any country on Earth, holding nearly one-fourth of the world's prisoners.

00:16:08.000 If mass incarceration made us safer, we'd be the safest nation on Earth.

00:16:14.000 But instead of reversing this, President Trump pushes us further into an unsafe reality, choosing handcuffs over housing, prisons over treatment.

00:16:23.000 He doesn't just distract us from the real roots of crimes, he deepens the crises that exist.

00:16:28.000 He claims that America is safer for women.

00:16:31.000 President Trump says that he will protect women, and he does.

00:16:34.000 But look closer at what he does and how he actually distracts us.

00:16:38.000 He fuels moral panic about people who are transgender in sports, a policy obsession that targets a few dozen individuals nationwide.

00:16:48.000 No, no, thank you.

00:16:49.000 While distracting from over 40 million women, half of our country, who have identified very clearly what the threat is of the real harm, which, you all know, is cisgender men. 0.82

00:17:02.000 According to data by the National Crime Victimization Survey, over 90% of violence experienced by women is committed by cisgender men.

00:17:11.000 But President Trump had banned books, not predators.

00:17:14.000 He targets drag shows, not domestic violence.

00:17:19.000 Under his leadership, women's health care access has plummeted, maternal mortality rates have risen, and survivors of violence face greater barriers in courts and in hospitals than perhaps ever before.

00:17:31.000 Meanwhile, President Trump surrounds himself with men credibly accused or convicted of sexual violence, not removing them, but elevating them to decision-making positions.

00:17:42.000 If safety were really the goal, The threats women experience wouldn't be invented and the real ones wouldn't be ignored. 1.00

00:17:50.000 He claims America is safer for children.

00:17:53.000 In America today, the leading cause of death for children and teens is gun violence.

00:17:58.000 Over 4,300 kids are killed by guns each year and more than 17,000 are wounded.

00:18:05.000 That is 60 children every single day.

00:18:09.000 In just 2025, there have already been 177 mass shootings.

00:18:13.000 And yet, President Trump is silent.

00:18:16.000 Instead of passing laws to keep kids safe in schools, he attacks teachers, slashes education budgets, and distracts the public with crusades against story hours and books in school libraries.

00:18:27.000 Children are not unsafe because of what they're reading.

00:18:31.000 They are unsafe because their classrooms are war zones.

00:18:35.000 When you keep pulling fire alarms for fake fires, no one notices when the building you're in is actually burning.

00:18:42.000 But here's the truth.

00:18:43.000 You cannot fix a crisis you refuse to understand.

00:18:47.000 So finally, my third point, deflection.

00:18:50.000 President Trump doesn't look for solutions.

00:18:52.000 He avoids accountability.

00:18:54.000 He blamed election workers for his own loss, fueling a deadly insurrection that endangered lawmakers and law enforcement.

00:19:02.000 He blamed Congress for the violence his words incited.

00:19:05.000 He's weaponized immigration to shift blame, deporting asylum seekers without hearings, and detaining student protesters across state lines, not to protect Americans, but to silence dissent.

00:19:18.000 He called the press the enemy of the people, threatened journalists, and flooded the courts with lawsuits to avoid scrutiny.

00:19:26.000 As a result, today, America ranks 55th in global press freedom, the lowest it has been in modern history.

00:19:34.000 You cannot run a country by avoiding every mirror and blaming every fire on someone else.

00:19:40.000 Mark Twain once said, it is easier to fool people.

00:19:44.000 than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.

00:19:47.000 So I have a tough job on this side.

00:19:50.000 But tonight's debate has actually tested that, because three people have sat on this chamber's floor for the entire debate.

00:19:58.000 You've stepped over them.

00:19:59.000 You've looked past them.

00:20:00.000 You've ignored them.

00:20:02.000 They've been holding a jar at the back of this chamber full of critical issues that affect millions of Americans.

00:20:07.000 Shelter, hunger, gun violence, unaffordable health care, poverty, freedom, and autonomy.

00:20:15.000 But we didn't ask who they were.

00:20:17.000 We didn't ask what they were holding.

00:20:18.000 We didn't ask to help them.

00:20:20.000 That jar has been sitting there with them this whole time.

00:20:23.000 And just like that, millions are left on the floor, silently holding everything he refuses to fix.

00:20:30.000 Meanwhile, this flashy jar filled with manufactured threats and political theater grabs every headline and all of our attention even in this debate.

00:20:41.000 Trump's America does not solve real problems.

00:20:44.000 It performs around them.

00:20:46.000 If you did not notice that jar or those individuals tonight, that's not your fault.

00:20:51.000 But if you leave still looking away, then he hasn't gone too far.

00:20:56.000 We all have.

00:20:58.000 The thing is, if we let those problems sit in the back of the room for long enough, we all start to believe that they belong back there.

00:21:06.000 Out of sight, out of mind.

00:21:08.000 But they don't.

00:21:09.000 We must get close to that jar.

00:21:12.000 We must feel its weight because when the curtain falls, it's the people on the floor who are still bleeding behind it.

00:21:18.000 And that is millions of Americans.

00:21:20.000 So House, affirm today's motion because Donald Duck was far.

00:21:26.000 But Donald Trump, that's too far.

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00:22:34.000 I thank Serene for her speech.

00:22:36.000 continue the case for the opposition I look to Daniel Ogoloma, Regents Park College.

00:22:47.000 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, friends of democracy and friends of drama.

00:22:54.000 And of course, Madam President, thank you for the honour of speaking in tonight's debate.

00:22:59.000 I must say it's a historic and inspiring moment for me.

00:23:02.000 Also, let me take this moment to congratulate you on making history in becoming the first black woman to serve in this prestigious society as presidents.

00:23:09.000 Thank you.

00:23:09.000 Well done.

00:23:15.000 Now on to the business for today.

00:23:19.000 This House believes Trump has gone too far.

00:23:22.000 But before we start passing judgment, let's ask, what does gone too far even mean?

00:23:28.000 Too far to whom?

00:23:29.000 The media?

00:23:30.000 The woke left?

00:23:32.000 Or too far to people who are used to presidents who just have eloquent speeches for eight years without action, like that former president from Chicago.

00:23:40.000 Gone too far.

00:23:41.000 The phrase itself is elastic, subjective, it's vague, and often used more as an emotional expression than a rigorous standard.

00:23:50.000 It sounds like a phrase you use when your mates down the last pizza that you've already called dibs on.

00:23:55.000 It implies that boundaries have been crossed, but which boundaries?

00:23:59.000 Legal, political, democratic, whose boundary is it?

00:24:04.000 And perhaps most importantly, too far compared to what?

00:24:07.000 Compared to precedent, to expectation, or simply politeness.

00:24:12.000 Trump is going where he said he would.

00:24:15.000 loudly, brazenly, and for the second time, he's not overreaching, he's delivering.

00:24:21.000 So tonight, I'll show you that Trump is working within the constitutional boundaries.

00:24:25.000 He's doing what he is democratically elected to do and he's following through on the policies which will prove he hasn't gone too far.

00:24:31.000 He's just gone as far as he said he would.

00:24:33.000 Now the proposition of course has continuously made the case that Trump is breaking the constitution.

00:24:38.000 They'll say he trampled democracy, ignored the courts and is basically running the White House like it's a season 15 of The Apprentice.

00:24:46.000 Here's the truth.

00:24:48.000 Trump isn't breaking the constitution.

00:24:50.000 He's following it forcefully.

00:24:52.000 but faithfully.

00:24:54.000 Yes, he's signing executive orders faster than freshers sign up for societies they'll never attend.

00:25:00.000 But is that illegal?

00:25:01.000 No.

00:25:02.000 No, it's efficient.

00:25:04.000 Let's compare.

00:25:05.000 Obama signed over 270 executive orders.

00:25:08.000 Biden's crossed 160.

00:25:11.000 Trump, he's simply operating just like every modern president trying to get things done in a gridlocked system.

00:25:18.000 He's declared national emergencies.

00:25:20.000 He's not the first.

00:25:21.000 The National Emergency Act exists and he used it.

00:25:24.000 And if you don't like the law, blame Congress.

00:25:27.000 Trump didn't write it.

00:25:28.000 He just actually read it this time.

00:25:30.000 And when the courts disagree with him, and yes, some did, he didn't ignore them.

00:25:35.000 He didn't dissolve the judiciary or arrest any judge.

00:25:38.000 And even in the case of Kilmar Albergo Gracia, yes, a deportation gone wrong.

00:25:42.000 The system didn't collapse.

00:25:44.000 The courts intervened.

00:25:46.000 Judges ruled.

00:25:47.000 The administration was held accountable.

00:25:49.000 That's not a president ignoring the law.

00:25:51.000 That's the law working, even when the headlines get messy.

00:25:55.000 Trump isn't going beyond the powers vested in him, as stated in Article 2 in the United States Constitution.

00:26:02.000 He is using the powers of the presidency exactly as it is written.

00:26:07.000 apologetically, energetically, and in line with the mandate he was given.

00:26:10.000 given.

00:26:11.000 Trump isn't trying to abolish Congress.

00:26:13.000 He isn't attempting to rewrite bills of rights and he isn't throwing out separations of power to crown himself an emperor.

00:26:20.000 He's operating within the framework, loudly and legally.

00:26:24.000 Look, I know the Trump sequel rattled a few cages.

00:26:27.000 It was like the reboot no one asked for that somehow still shattered the box office records.

00:26:32.000 But this wasn't a political accident.

00:26:34.000 It was a democratic choice.

00:26:36.000 Over 60 million Americans heard the message, saw the chaos, weighed the controversy, and still said, let's make America great again.

00:26:46.000 So rewind the tapes.

00:26:47.000 His 2024 campaign was a checklist, not a poem.

00:26:52.000 And guess what?

00:26:53.000 He's ticking the boxes and many Americans are winning.

00:26:57.000 Young people.

00:26:58.000 He's rolled out apprenticeships and STEM grants, created real jobs, not just LinkedIn dreams.

00:27:03.000 As for the working class Americans, tax relief and energy infrastructure, more hours, more cash. 0.97

00:27:08.000 The elderly, he's capped insulin prices in these first few weeks.

00:27:11.000 Legal immigration, application queues cut nearly 30% thanks to digitization.

00:27:17.000 So you tell me, if Trump's second term has already improved financial standings of students, workers, immigrants and pensioners, who exactly has he gone too far against?

00:27:28.000 Everybody's saying he's making big moves.

00:27:30.000 He's shaking the foundations.

00:27:32.000 I say, yes, that is the job.

00:27:35.000 You don't hire Gordon Ramsey and complain when he's yelling in the kitchen.

00:27:39.000 You don't re-elect Trump and act shocked when he's still Trump.

00:27:45.000 Now, I know what my friends on the proposition will say, of course, but Trump supporters are uncomfortable with some of the things he's doing. 0.56

00:27:52.000 And I say, welcome to bloody adulthood.

00:27:54.000 I don't even agree with half of my own Netflix suggestions half of the time.

00:27:58.000 No one gets a perfect match.

00:27:59.000 And even Adele fans skip most parts of someone like you.

00:28:04.000 Voters didn't pick a genie.

00:28:06.000 They picked a leader.

00:28:07.000 Someone who would, when handed the keys, drive, not spend the entire term adjusting the mirrors.

00:28:12.000 It's messy, it's loud, but that's democracy.

00:28:15.000 Let him do his job.

00:28:17.000 Now, just imagine you purchase a ticket to Jamaica, you board the flight, and mid-flight you experience turbulence, and the pilot tells you, guys, sit tight, because the route he needs to take might be ugly.

00:28:31.000 It's a bumpy ride, but he still lands the plane safely at your destination.

00:28:35.000 Will you say he went too far?

00:28:37.000 No.

00:28:38.000 I think you'd say, cheers, mate, rough ride, but we got there in the end.

00:28:41.000 So let's be very clear.

00:28:43.000 Trump isn't going too far.

00:28:44.000 I just think we've grown used to politicians promising everything, delivering nothing, and calling it process.

00:28:50.000 He, instead, is delivering what he promised, even if it gives CNN panic.

00:28:55.000 attacks every 45 minutes.

00:28:57.000 Who gives a toss about Trump's tone and politeness, his language or his tweeting?

00:29:02.000 Trump is rude, they say. 0.79

00:29:03.000 He's undiplomatic. 0.92

00:29:04.000 He makes people uncomfortable.

00:29:06.000 Well, so does honesty.

00:29:08.000 So does follow-through.

00:29:09.000 So does a president who doesn't apologize every 30 seconds like a British person walking through someone in a Tesco. 0.97

00:29:15.000 Sorry.

00:29:16.000 Sorry.

00:29:17.000 And yes, supporters of this motion will also say, he's damaging America's international image.

00:29:23.000 Look, America's image has been through worse.

00:29:26.000 They once invaded the wrong country over bad intelligence and were still selected to host the Olympics like nothing happened.

00:29:31.000 Trump being blunt, even the..

00:29:33.000 collapse of diplomacy.

00:29:35.000 It's just the end of pretending everyone likes each other in the G7 group chat.

00:29:40.000 Here's the real threat to democracy.

00:29:42.000 Politicians who talk a good game and do nothing, who run on dreams and govern on differing, who make hope a product but not a plan.

00:29:50.000 Trump is certainly not that man.

00:29:53.000 You may not like the method, but you can't deny the motion.

00:29:56.000 Trump is moving.

00:29:58.000 Friends, I'm not saying he's a political saint.

00:30:00.000 He's not even polite, I know.

00:30:02.000 But that's not the requirement to be president.

00:30:04.000 If Trump unnerves you, maybe what we fear isn't overreach, it's accountability.

00:30:11.000 So I leave you with this.

00:30:12.000 If democracy still means electing leaders and expecting them to do what they say they would, then Donald Trump hasn't gone too far.

00:30:19.000 He's gone exactly as far as he is allowed to.

00:30:22.000 Thank you.

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00:31:42.000 I now look to Laura Smith to close the case for the proposition. 0.89

00:31:54.000 Thank you so much for this opportunity.

00:31:56.000 It's great to be back in Oxford.

00:31:58.000 I suppose I really owe actually a debt of thanks to our friend Mr. Kirk here because, you know, I'd love to think that my students would wait this long to hear me lecture, but to be honest with you, you know, been here this long just because of him.

00:32:12.000 But I must caution you, entertainment is on this side for you.

00:32:16.000 Education is on this side.

00:32:19.000 Now, I've got to mention one thing that has been a sort of running current through the argument that you've heard from opposition today, which is this idea of he won.

00:32:29.000 He got the popular vote once, once.

00:32:31.000 He got the popular vote once.

00:32:33.000 He did win twice.

00:32:35.000 Okay, but the assumption is that he therefore had a mandate.

00:32:40.000 A lot of political scientists dispute that there's even such a thing as an electoral mandate.

00:32:46.000 that people could actually take it as word and that somehow Elon Musk was elected too.

00:32:52.000 So you know what happens when you make assumptions, right? 0.87

00:32:56.000 And I hate to use a Democratic dig here because it's got that connotation, but you make an ass of yourself if that's what happens when you make an assumption. 0.53

00:33:04.000 Everyone knows that.

00:33:05.000 Now, the word unprecedented is intrinsically associated almost to redundancy when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:33:14.000 He's not unprecedented in being the first, he's definitely not the first president to try and push the boundaries of executive power to beyond its scope.

00:33:23.000 He is even not the first president to do so in a time that is out of sync with his context.

00:33:31.000 I can think of two other examples.

00:33:34.000 Andrew Johnson, after the Civil War, he was America's first president to be impeached.

00:33:39.000 Why?

00:33:40.000 Because he wanted to welcome the Confederate rebels back with open arms, like the Civil War, just a bit of a brotherly scuffle, wasn't it?

00:33:47.000 No problem.

00:33:48.000 Oh, all these freed African Americans?

00:33:50.000 No, let's not have any more civil rights for them. 1.00

00:33:53.000 No.

00:33:53.000 So he got impeached.

00:33:55.000 He wasn't removed, but he was the first president to be impeached.

00:33:58.000 Richard Nixon, here's another example of a man acting out of the context of what was acceptable in his times.

00:34:06.000 No, he wasn't impeached because he was forced to resign.

00:34:09.000 He lost the support of his own Republican Party.

00:34:12.000 So what is the difference when it comes to Donald Trump?

00:34:14.000 A president who's been impeached twice and not removed.

00:34:18.000 He's not being held accountable.

00:34:20.000 He's pushing against this for more executive power.

00:34:24.000 It is not acceptable in the 21st century, but so far he has yet to be held to account.

00:34:30.000 Presidents have formal powers and informal powers.

00:34:34.000 But one of the key ones is, of course, executive orders.

00:34:36.000 We've already heard it tonight.

00:34:38.000 But I would just like to point out that there is a little little bit of fake news over there.

00:34:42.000 Okay, so let me get the numbers straight.

00:34:45.000 In his first 100 days, which is why we're here in the first place, Donald Trump signed no less than 147 executive orders.

00:34:54.000 Now, to put that in context, Joe Biden signed a similar number, that's what you heard, but over four years, not 100 days, big difference.

00:35:04.000 So Donald Trump has brought up the yearly average executive orders.

00:35:08.000 since 1944, all the way through the modern presidency, since FDR.

00:35:14.000 Now, he has also used his pardon power, his clemency power, another formal power.

00:35:19.000 Most controversially in his first 100 days, we already mentioned the pardoning of 1,500 January 6 rioters.

00:35:27.000 Hugely controversial and a huge push in the use of executive power.

00:35:32.000 He is the commander-in-chief, another immensely important formal power.

00:35:37.000 What is he using it for?

00:35:38.000 Well, so far, thank goodness, he's only organizing himself a birthday military parade.

00:35:44.000 And how much is this going to cost, you ask?

00:35:47.000 Well, The Guardian suggests it could cost up to $45 million for the American taxpayer to pay.

00:35:54.000 Does this sound like the leader of the Western democracy, what they would do.

00:36:01.000 He likes to create crises.

00:36:03.000 Now we all know that when there's a crisis, for example, he was in charge when there was COVID, when there was crisis with Black Lives Matter, George Floyd, the economic crisis related to COVID, how badly he mishandled and mismanaged that.

00:36:20.000 Why does he like to therefore create crises?

00:36:23.000 Because he can control them.

00:36:25.000 It's this idea of controlling.

00:36:27.000 Andrew Jackson, a president he most admires, used to use the phrase, I am the storm.

00:36:32.000 That's the idea.

00:36:33.000 It's like he wants to be the storm.

00:36:35.000 He wants to control the narrative and create these crises.

00:36:39.000 to establish himself as more powerful, pushing back against traditional allies.

00:36:45.000 Can I think of an example?

00:36:46.000 Too many, but I'll give you a couple.

00:36:48.000 Recently, he's got really keen on this idea of an Iran nuclear treaty.

00:36:54.000 Wow, I feel like I'm in 2015 again.

00:36:56.000 Wait, we had one of those.

00:36:57.000 Oh, yeah, it was under President Barack Obama.

00:37:01.000 And yet, because it was associated with Obama, it became no more under Trump.

00:37:05.000 And now he's trying to create a treaty with no trust whatsoever.

00:37:09.000 He talked in his election about the Panama Canal.

00:37:12.000 And most egregiously recently, in terms of the economy, his tariff wars, going after America's one of their oldest and strongest allies, Canada.

00:37:21.000 Why?

00:37:22.000 Fentanyl.

00:37:23.000 It's racing across the border.

00:37:24.000 We've got to stop it.

00:37:25.000 It's dangerous.

00:37:27.000 How much fentanyl comes across the Canadian-U.S.

00:37:29.000 border?

00:37:30.000 0.01%.

00:37:32.000 I'm sorry, that's wrong.

00:37:34.000 Less than 0.01% comes across the U.S.-Canadian border.

00:37:39.000 And of course, I would be remiss to talk about Donald Trump if not to talk about immigration.

00:37:45.000 and his deportation policies.

00:37:47.000 From the start of his political career, a mere 10 years ago, his immigration rhetoric rested on xenophobia and racism.

00:37:56.000 And I'm not going to dignify this chamber by repeating some of it.

00:37:59.000 What it has created is it has encouraged some of the worst of Americans and statements to come out, to feel vindicated.

00:38:09.000 For example, in American campuses today, after his re-election in 2024, some Republican student groups were actually encouraging their fellow students to report other students they believed.

00:38:23.000 to be there illegally.

00:38:24.000 So you are now innocent, no longer innocent, before proven guilty.

00:38:29.000 He has been told by the Supreme Court, his own Supreme Court, one might say, considering that he appointed three of the justices, that he must return a man who should not have been deported to El Salvador's max security prison.

00:38:42.000 He must return him.

00:38:44.000 And he refuses to do it.

00:38:46.000 The president has enforcement.

00:38:47.000 He is utilizing this power to an extreme extent.

00:38:51.000 Like this, he is mirroring Jackson.

00:38:54.000 Jackson is the one who 200 years ago, almost 200 years ago in 1832, the Supreme Court said, no.

00:39:01.000 Cherokees, Native Americans, must be able to stay on their land.

00:39:05.000 They said this to someone who had driven through the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

00:39:10.000 Andrew Jackson ignored it.

00:39:12.000 Why?

00:39:13.000 Because he was living in the democracy of the white man.

00:39:17.000 That was almost 200 years ago.

00:39:19.000 Thank God we no longer live in the democracy of the man, although I do notice a bit of a gender divide here, which may reflect the support that Donald Trump has and that gender divide of his own.

00:39:32.000 Another really interesting thing I find about Donald Trump and his use of power and deportation and immigration policies, Crazy the Crisis, he seems to be really fixated on a potential genocide in South Africa against white South Africans.

00:39:47.000 Nobody else has really heard of this.

00:39:50.000 And yet, white South Africans, no thank you, you'll get your chance, Mr. Kirk. 1.00

00:39:56.000 Like my students, they get their chance.

00:39:58.000 So, these white South Africans are able to come and relocate to the United States, while others, including those of minority, racial and ethnic backgrounds, do not get that privileged opportunity, the same privileged opportunity.

00:40:13.000 Finally, I'd be remiss.

00:40:14.000 without mentioning Doge, of course.

00:40:16.000 I mentioned before Elon Musk.

00:40:18.000 I mentioned before how he was unelected.

00:40:20.000 Getting hand cramped there, Mr. Kirk.

00:40:22.000 Lots of notes.

00:40:23.000 I'm looking forward to it.

00:40:24.000 Oh, I'm looking forward to it.

00:40:25.000 I'm looking forward to it.

00:40:27.000 So when it comes to Doge, We know that he's not the first president to try and reorganize and restructure the American government.

00:40:37.000 William Taft there, 1909, 1913, he did it from a fashion of organizing, of steadying it, of specialism.

00:40:46.000 This was a period in which Congress and he got together while he used unilateral power, got together and worked together.

00:40:54.000 to ensure that they had someone who was a specialist in government to steady it for almost four years before slashing.

00:41:00.000 There was no chainsaw government.

00:41:03.000 It was streamlining government and it certainly wasn't denigrating those very unflashy civil service jobs that people do tirelessly day in and day out and mostly thanklessly as well.

00:41:15.000 So ladies and gentlemen, I ask you in my final 30 seconds, 40 seconds, how do we judge whether a president has gone too far when the method that the founders gave us, the high crimes and misdemeanor, the last block of check, the impeachment mechanism, seems meaningless for a man who has been impeached twice?

00:41:34.000 How do we hold him to account?

00:41:36.000 Well, by the only means that we know how and that we've spearheaded.

00:41:40.000 We must vote.

00:41:41.000 We must vote in proposition.

00:41:42.000 We must vote by democratic means to prove that Donald Trump has gone too far.

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00:42:53.000 And now closing the case of the opposition and indeed the whole debate, Mr. Charlie Kirk.

00:43:01.000 Is that my timing?

00:43:07.000 Okay, before I begin my prepared remarks, I feel like I gotta run the gauntlet.

00:43:11.000 First, I'll give you £1,000 right now if you could tell me the U.S. citizen that was deported under Donald Trump.

00:43:16.000 You said that twice.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, the U.S. citizen that was deported under Donald Trump.

00:43:20.000 Can anyone tell me £1,000?

00:43:21.000 I'll give it to you right now.

00:43:22.000 Yeah, name?

00:43:23.000 Wrong, not a U.S. citizen. 0.99

00:43:25.000 Citizen El Salvador.

00:43:26.000 Anyone else?

00:43:27.000 U.S. citizen deported under Trump.

00:43:28.000 Nope, that was a lie.

00:43:29.000 You should know better than that.

00:43:30.000 You go to Oxford.

00:43:31.000 So that is a correction.

00:43:32.000 Number two, can you tell me when it comes to Charlottesville, something that you said when Donald Trump said that there were people on both sides, he was actually talking about the statue debate not what you said so that's a hoax that's line number two um oh yeah you said that somebody over here said something about a pete hegseth being nothing more than a TV host you should also mention that he was a service member of the military nope sorry I'm gonna talk uninterruptedly thank you service member and was in a decorated war hero funny

00:44:02.000 you didn't mention that oh yes January 6 came up multiple times from you tried your best but from you and from the opposition.

00:44:12.000 It's not an insurrection.

00:44:13.000 You've called them all rioters.

00:44:15.000 It's funny.

00:44:16.000 A small percentage of the people that were actually there on January 6th did anything violently.

00:44:19.000 The vast majority walked into the Capitol building after they were invited.

00:44:23.000 Also back to your point, I certainly hope reform and AFD wins.

00:44:27.000 So I hope that it's not to teach Trump a lesson that he goes too far.

00:44:30.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:44:31.000 Finally, the Donald Duck, really?

00:44:32.000 Like, what was that all about?

00:44:33.000 What is this jar?

00:44:33.000 I've no idea what you're talking about in the back of the room.

00:44:36.000 It's like, it's completely lost on me.

00:44:37.000 So I don't know what that's all about.

00:44:41.000 Also, on the Canadian border, the professor failed to mention that the Canadian border was closed.

00:44:46.000 President Trump said fentanyl and the amount of terrorists that are coming across the Canadian border, of which the most terrorists that come into America come across the Canadian border on the terrorist watch list.

00:44:55.000 You did not mention that.

00:44:56.000 And finally, Professor, you never heard of it in South Africa.

00:45:00.000 You never heard of that.

00:45:00.000 Interesting.

00:45:02.000 The fact that a major political party in South Africa says, quote, kill the boars, kill the boars. 0.92

00:45:07.000 I would expect more of somebody who wrote dissertation and teaches here at Oxford to say that you would not know about the attempted slaughter and genocide of white South Africans. 0.80

00:45:15.000 Okay, now on to, I'm sure there's lots of POIs, and I will talk uninterrupted.

00:45:20.000 Now to my remarks, but actually, is that all of it?

00:45:22.000 Let me see here.

00:45:24.000 Yeah, that's just a taste.

00:45:25.000 Hello, everybody.

00:45:26.000 It's great to be here tonight.

00:45:27.000 Thank you to the Oxford Union for inviting me.

00:45:29.000 Thank you.

00:45:39.000 I take that as a great compliment.

00:45:42.000 So therefore, everyone who went to university should be able to run circles around me.

00:45:45.000 You'll be the judge, but I'll do my best.

00:45:47.000 Has Donald Trump gone too far?

00:45:49.000 Well, I can nitpick at how vague that question is.

00:45:52.000 What is too far exactly?

00:45:54.000 Are his tweets too long?

00:45:56.000 Can all of us even agree on what we're aiming at?

00:45:59.000 I don't think so.

00:46:00.000 The truth is this.

00:46:01.000 If you dislike the West, and if you hate the West's values, if you think the West is evil fundamentally and deserves to be destroyed, then anything Donald Trump does basically short of surrender will be too far for you.

00:46:14.000 If I was visiting this school 100 years ago, speaking in support of an American president, I think we would at least have some broad agreement on what a country's leader should be trying to do.

00:46:24.000 But we don't anymore.

00:46:25.000 I don't think it's because America's changed.

00:46:27.000 In fact, I think it's because Britain has changed.

00:46:30.000 From my perspective, Britain is one of the greatest countries in the history of the world.

00:46:34.000 You were the country of Shakespeare, the steam engine, and Adam Smith.

00:46:38.000 You defeated Napoleon.

00:46:39.000 You destroyed the slave trade. 0.79

00:46:41.000 You stood up to Hitler.

00:46:42.000 My country, America, became great.

00:46:45.000 as it is because of what we inherited from you, from Britain.

00:46:50.000 When I hear the slogan, make America great again, I'm also hearing, quote, return America to its British roots. 0.98

00:46:58.000 Great Britain has everything in the world to be proud of.

00:47:01.000 But when I look at Britain today, I see a country where the ruling elites are in a race to abandon the very values, the values that made them so great in the first place.

00:47:09.000 I wish I could blame this all on Labour, all on the left, but I can't.

00:47:13.000 This country just had its 14th uninterrupted year of so-called conservative rule.

00:47:19.000 And what did they conserve exactly?

00:47:20.000 Well, they didn't conserve the ancient British rights to freedom of speech.

00:47:24.000 In Britain today, 30 people a day are arrested for offensive posts on social media, according to the Telegraph, praying silently.

00:47:33.000 within 600 feet of an abortion clinic can get you arrested in Scotland, as a 74-year-old woman named Rose just learned weeks ago.

00:47:40.000 Members of Parliament scold British citizens for thinking they have the right to say things, say that they do not have the right to say things that offend Muslims.

00:47:48.000 14 years of conservative rule didn't conserve British prosperity.

00:47:53.000 Adjusted for inflation cost of living, the average British worker makes less today than they did in 2008.

00:48:00.000 Outside of London, the British have lower incomes than every one of America's 50 states, and it never used to be this way.

00:48:06.000 British industry pays four times as much for electricity as America does.

00:48:11.000 You have the highest electricity rates in the world, a consequence of a choice of going net neutral.

00:48:18.000 Nothing will kill a modern economy faster than high energy prices.

00:48:21.000 And the country that, again, that invented the steam engine now has some of the highest energy prices on the planet.

00:48:26.000 But above all, 14 years of conservative control didn't preserve the British nation.

00:48:31.000 This country's conservatives thought it was their moral duty to allow anyone from the third world to move here. 1.00

00:48:37.000 They didn't need to hold Western values.

00:48:39.000 They didn't need to have useful skills.

00:48:40.000 They could go on welfare immediately.

00:48:42.000 Just last week, Kier Starmer announced he's changing the law to make sure immigrants who commit crimes are deported because the conservatives never actually bothered passing that law themselves.

00:48:52.000 The dying out of the British nation means the dying out of Christianity. 0.98

00:48:56.000 Britain is the birthplace of Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Anglicans, Quakers, and more.

00:49:03.000 I would guess that more Christian denominations trace back to Britain than any other country, but soon Britain will have more practicing Muslims and practicing Christians.

00:49:12.000 I think that will be a catastrophic change, and everyone knows it.

00:49:17.000 That's why it's only Muslims moving to Christian countries, never the other way around. 0.97

00:49:22.000 I don't want America to go to ABB.

00:49:24.000 I want us to remain free.

00:49:25.000 I want us to remain rich and innovative.

00:49:27.000 I want us to remain Christian.

00:49:29.000 I don't want Americans to be replaced.

00:49:31.000 But forget what I want.

00:49:33.000 This is what the American people want.

00:49:35.000 And in a democracy, the people are supposed to get what they want.

00:49:40.000 The very same people that lecture us about democracy.

00:49:43.000 have a lot of problems with the consequences of democracy when the people vote away that they don't like.

00:49:48.000 And that's where Donald Trump comes in.

00:49:49.000 When I was growing up, people would say that Britain was where America would be 10 or 20 years in the future.

00:49:55.000 What they meant was that Britain was more left-wing than America, but we'd catch up eventually.

00:50:00.000 That's just how things were over time, and nothing could stop it.

00:50:03.000 I don't hear people saying that anymore.

00:50:05.000 Donald Trump is the reason why.

00:50:07.000 Almost alone, Donald Trump has changed the course of history.

00:50:10.000 He's destroyed the assumption that the left's victory was inevitable.

00:50:14.000 Under President Biden, more than 10 million illegal aliens entered America.

00:50:18.000 Guides were published on TikTok explaining how to break into America.

00:50:22.000 Say some magic words at the border and nobody would stop you.

00:50:25.000 Entire neighborhoods of American cities were turned over to migrants living on the dole. 1.00

00:50:31.000 America was treated as a pile of wealth for the rest of the planet to plunder at will.

00:50:37.000 Now that is all stopping.

00:50:39.000 President Trump has cut border crossings, not 90%, not 99%, but 99.9%.

00:50:45.000 For years, my country's leaders lied that the southern border was an unfixable mess.

00:50:51.000 President Trump exposed them all as liars within weeks.

00:50:54.000 But closing the door didn't fix the damage that Biden did.

00:50:58.000 We have well over 10 million people in America who should not be in America. 0.99

00:51:02.000 If somebody breaks into your home, you don't fix the problem by closing your door and locking it.

00:51:06.000 Things aren't fixed until the burglar is kicked out.

00:51:09.000 And President Trump has been fighting harder than ever to make that happen.

00:51:12.000 But I'd be happy if we fought even harder.

00:51:14.000 Of course, illegal migration isn't the only threat facing America.

00:51:17.000 In Joe Biden's America, we had the tyranny of DEI.

00:51:20.000 Even though America's Constitution explicitly forbids racial discrimination, our government ordered people to do it anyway. 0.99

00:51:27.000 People were denied jobs and denied promotions.

00:51:29.000 Kids were shut out of universities based on the color of their skin rather than their ability.

00:51:34.000 Companies were denied federal contracts because their owners didn't look a certain way.

00:51:38.000 People who didn't discriminate enough in hiring could be sued by the government.

00:51:41.000 Every company in America lived in fear of their government deciding to target them for offenses against DEI.

00:51:49.000 Trump has ordered DEI to be torn down.

00:51:52.000 But I want him to tear it down faster.

00:51:54.000 I want every university told that they're losing all federal dollars immediately if they don't stop racial discrimination.

00:52:00.000 I want the Department of Justice to start auditing every federal contractor to find DEI and shut off contracts immediately wherever we find it.

00:52:09.000 This is a kind of cancer that cannot be phased out.

00:52:12.000 It must be ripped out from the core. 0.99

00:52:15.000 The same goes for the toxic social contagion of transgenderism. 1.00

00:52:18.000 In Joe Biden's America, public schools and medical organizations were co-opted into endorsing this insanity.

00:52:24.000 They urge children just 10 years old or younger to take barely tested hormones and surgically alter their bodies.

00:52:30.000 In some of America's liberal states, a parent who objects to their child's transition can lose custody.

00:52:35.000 I've met detransitioners who escaped from this social poison. 1.00

00:52:38.000 They tell me that getting sucked into the first place was the greatest mistake of their lives.

00:52:42.000 President Trump has taken steps to stop promoting this lunacy.

00:52:45.000 He's acted to protect women's sports, another POI I meant to make. 0.51

00:52:49.000 She said it's only a couple dozen.

00:52:50.000 890 biological men have stolen awards, trophies, and championships from women in America. 0.96

00:52:56.000 It's not a couple dozen.

00:52:57.000 Over 890 women were displaced by pervert men.

00:53:00.000 That's why I want Donald Trump's administration and why I support it.

00:53:03.000 It's mostly what I've gotten, but I want more of it.

00:53:06.000 I'll be honest.

00:53:07.000 We, the American people, we want more deportations.

00:53:09.000 We want more peace deals.

00:53:10.000 We want more woke colleges defunded. 0.95

00:53:12.000 We want more DEI parasites to lose their jobs. 0.71

00:53:15.000 The American people voted to put America first. 0.96

00:53:17.000 You should all too.

00:53:17.000 And you know what?

00:53:18.000 This is my final point.

00:53:19.000 You should want to preserve and restore the greatness of Britain.

00:53:22.000 You should want the decline to stop and you can make it happen.

00:53:24.000 Starmer wouldn't be saying anybody's saying without what President Trump is doing.

00:53:28.000 If you were honest with yourself, if you want a great Britain again, not a mediocre Britain, if you want a Britain that you could be proud of, you should all be wearing MAGA hats and cheering Donald Trump on every step of the way.

00:53:39.000 Thank you very much.

00:53:41.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:53:43.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:53:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 17, 2025

Charlie Debates The Students of Oxford

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