The Charlie Kirk Show - January 25, 2022


Charlie Issues a Challenge for Governor Ron DeSantis

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As 35,000 people descend on Washington, D.C. for the march against the mandates, we have Dr. Andrea Urso to unpack that and so much more, including what do you do when the government prevents you from treating and saving the lives of your citizens? It s a provocative question, and we explore that today with Turning Point USA, the nation s largest educational movement focused on passing down American values from one generation to the next.

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00:00:07.000 We have Dr. Urso to unpack that and so much more, including, what do you do when the government prevents you from treating and saving the lives of your citizens?
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00:02:28.000 What do you do when the government prevents you, maybe a governor, maybe a leader, maybe a stakeholder, from treating or helping your constituents?
00:02:44.000 How do you even process such a thing when one level of government decides to crush another that very well might help save the lives of our citizens?
00:02:57.000 Now, we've gone through in great detail the war on early treatments.
00:03:00.000 We don't need to rehash that.
00:03:02.000 We have plenty of content around that on how our government, the federal government, has openly committed crimes against humanity in restricting azithromycin and ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and many other treatments.
00:03:15.000 But now we have a new story, a new wrinkle that is a new low for this regime.
00:03:23.000 Governor DeSantis condemns Biden administration's haphazard decision to revoke authorization of life-saving monoclonal antibody treatments.
00:03:33.000 Governor Ron DeSantis is demanding that the Biden administration reverse its sudden and reckless decision to revoke emergency use authorization for Regeneron and Eli Lilly monoclonal antibody treatments.
00:03:45.000 This abrupt and unilateral action by the Biden regime will prevent access to life-saving treatments for Floridians and Americans.
00:03:55.000 The story is this: FDA restricts use of two monoclonal antibody treatments.
00:04:01.000 I know people's lives who were saved by monoclonal antibodies.
00:04:06.000 Now, their argument is like, well, it's not working that well against Omicron.
00:04:09.000 Well, if not working that well as the standard for revoking emergency use authorization, then maybe you should pull some EUA permits for vaccines.
00:04:17.000 Not working that well.
00:04:19.000 First of all, there's no clinical data to support that.
00:04:22.000 Second of all, there is massive momentum amongst doctors actually on the front lines of how monoclonal antibodies help condition the response and help with Regeneron regenerating white blood cell treatment.
00:04:39.000 And they are life-saving in some cases.
00:04:44.000 Not all the antibodies are effective.
00:04:46.000 It doesn't work all the time, which is why you need to throw the kitchen sink at it with all the other treatments.
00:04:53.000 But now the federal government is coming out and they're saying, nope, not happening.
00:04:59.000 You are not allowed to use monoclonal antibodies.
00:05:02.000 We are going to get in the way of what doctors are able to do with their patients.
00:05:08.000 Now, we've already used all the words on this show.
00:05:11.000 We know that Joe Biden has no concern whatsoever for the mounting deaths, preventable deaths of people that have died from COVID-19.
00:05:19.000 He doesn't care about the 100,000-plus overdose deaths.
00:05:25.000 But what does he care about then?
00:05:27.000 What is the explanation for this?
00:05:29.000 Well, the FDA justification is they say, well, it's unlikely to be active against the Omicron variant.
00:05:36.000 Oh, unlikely.
00:05:37.000 Not that it doesn't work.
00:05:39.000 Not that they have clinical data to show that monoclonal antibodies are doing harm.
00:05:43.000 No, just that it's unlikely.
00:05:45.000 So they revoke the emergency use authorization.
00:05:50.000 But the real reason is to push the Pfizer and Merck pills as the primary authorized therapeutics.
00:05:57.000 You see, they don't want you to go to a monoclonal antibody site. 0.72
00:06:01.000 They want you to help Pfizer stock price, which is not doing very well right now because Pfizer owns our government, just like the Sinaola cartel owns the Mexican government.
00:06:10.000 We are a pharma-controlled state.
00:06:12.000 Mexico is a narco-controlled state. 0.70
00:06:15.000 They're going to have a new Netflix series, not called Narcos, just called Pharmas. 0.92
00:06:19.000 That will be the story of our federal health officials and our politicians that take money from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson and push the products on you, even though they might be hurting you.
00:06:34.000 Hours before the FDA shut down the monoclonal antibody treatments to push the pills, CBS just wrote an article about how difficult it is to find the therapeutic pills.
00:06:46.000 So these pills are expensive, they're questionable in its efficacy, and they're hard to find.
00:06:50.000 But don't worry, we're going to revoke monoclonal antibodies.
00:06:53.000 If you actually follow the CDC guidelines, and many of you have, many of you have probably lost loved ones to COVID, that was probably, unfortunately, tragically, and inexplicably very preventable.
00:07:04.000 Many of you have probably lost loved ones to COVID.
00:07:09.000 And a doctor probably just told you, go home.
00:07:11.000 If it gets bad enough, go to a hospital.
00:07:13.000 We have thousands of emails from people that said they went to the hospital in the last nine months with a loved one, or they loved one checked in, and they were advocating on that loved one's behalf.
00:07:27.000 The hospital refused treatment of ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, refused monoclonal antibodies.
00:07:32.000 We're talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths, hundreds of thousands of deaths.
00:07:42.000 A domestic campaign against one's own citizens, unlike anything we've ever seen.
00:07:50.000 Now, here's the question, and here's the test for Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:07:55.000 Ron DeSantis sends out a good press release, but that doesn't do enough for me, and it shouldn't for you.
00:08:02.000 Ron DeSantis condemns Biden's haphazard decision to revoke authorization of life-saving monoclonal antibody treatment.
00:08:10.000 Ron DeSantis, if you want to be president, here's what you do: you tell Biden, we're not listening.
00:08:19.000 Ron DeSantis, if you want to be president, which I think one day you could be, you're America's best governor.
00:08:24.000 You are.
00:08:25.000 In a battleground state, and you've been heroic at every single corner.
00:08:28.000 Well, now you have a chance to save your constituents' lives.
00:08:31.000 And if nothing else, you have a chance to build a constitutional showdown with the regime.
00:08:41.000 Who gave Biden the authority to tell a doctor in Gainesville, Florida, whether or not they can use monoclonal antibodies to save their patients?
00:08:49.000 Is Joe Biden going to go in and say, hey, you know, you can't use hydroxychloroquine for lupus anymore, even though millions of people use it for lupus.
00:08:57.000 Basically, they are, by the way.
00:08:59.000 Ron DeSantis has an opportunity.
00:09:01.000 I think he's going to step up.
00:09:02.000 Ron DeSantis need to say, Joe Biden, we're not listening to you.
00:09:04.000 We're going to keep administering this treatment.
00:09:07.000 We don't care if the FDA doesn't say it's approved.
00:09:11.000 We're going to do our own deal.
00:09:13.000 Have a nice life.
00:09:15.000 Ron DeSantis should openly defy Joe Biden on this issue.
00:09:21.000 Joe Biden will back down.
00:09:22.000 What is Joe Biden?
00:09:23.000 Going to send in the FBI to go arrest a bunch of doctors that are administering monoclonal? 0.63
00:09:27.000 Maybe.
00:09:28.000 I'm not kidding.
00:09:29.000 That actually might happen.
00:09:30.000 I'd love to see the optics of that.
00:09:32.000 Doctors that are trying to save their patients' lives, you're going to tell me Joe Biden's going to bring in the feds like he did with the diary with James O'Keefe.
00:09:39.000 And Joe Biden was like, go indict Steve Bannon.
00:09:42.000 Go raid Rudy Giuliani's home.
00:09:44.000 Go raid James O'Keefe's home.
00:09:48.000 Ron DeSantis has an opportunity to step up and show the constitutional structure, separation of powers, consent to the governed, independent judiciary, but also that the states created the federal government.
00:10:04.000 The federal government did not create the states.
00:10:05.000 Florida is a sovereign state.
00:10:08.000 Regardless of what the regime tries to tell you, the FDA has no business.
00:10:13.000 I don't care if there's some sort of guidance memo by some regulatory Pfizer puppet at some level of the FDA that wants to try to get the stock price higher because they want to retire in a couple of years and get some board seat on their merger and acquisition board of Pfizer so they could go live on some, you know, vacation home in Naples.
00:10:33.000 Couldn't care less.
00:10:34.000 Instead, what I care about is saving people's lives.
00:10:38.000 And Ron DeSantis should tell Joe Biden, Regeneron works.
00:10:44.000 Monoclonal has saved lives.
00:10:46.000 Take a hike.
00:10:47.000 I'm the governor of Florida.
00:10:49.000 I don't know who you think you are.
00:10:51.000 We're going to keep administering the treatment.
00:10:52.000 If Ron DeSantis doesn't do that, then he will fall in line like the other weak Republican governors, of which he is not, and allow his citizens to die.
00:11:03.000 We'll see what he does.
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00:13:00.000 They defy people all the time.
00:13:02.000 They do whatever they want to do.
00:13:03.000 New York schools told to keep masks after judge overturns mandate.
00:13:08.000 Yeah, they just do whatever they want.
00:13:09.000 They don't care what judges have to say. 0.99
00:13:10.000 They don't care what presidents have to say. 1.00
00:13:12.000 We're the ones that follow their stupid rules. 1.00
00:13:14.000 They don't even follow the correct rules. 0.98
00:13:16.000 New York state education officials told school administrators to continue enforcing the state's mask mandate for students and teachers Tuesday, despite a judge ruling overturning it, causing confusion as some districts rushed to make masks optional.
00:13:34.000 The education department said the state has filed notice that it would appeal Monday's ruling by a judge.
00:13:40.000 Quote, while these legal steps occur, it is the New York state's educational department's position that schools should continue to follow the mask rule.
00:13:48.000 Even though the judge has said it's unconstitutional, it can't be enforced.
00:13:52.000 They're still going to have mask mandates in schools. 0.93
00:13:55.000 We've been experiencing this for quite some time.
00:13:57.000 Republicans are so slow to the game and, quite honestly, behind the ball.
00:14:01.000 They have not cared what judges say for a long time.
00:14:05.000 They built sanctuary cities in New York and Boston and Portland and San Francisco and Chicago in open defiance to federal immigration law, despite what judges were saying.
00:14:14.000 They have always looked at the courts as a means to the end, but never as an interruption to their actual aims or ambitions.
00:14:22.000 Now, the story is this: a New York judge has officially struck down the mask mandate, and the appeal hearing is possibly this afternoon.
00:14:32.000 Now, in New York, they have, this is NBCNewYork.com.
00:14:37.000 They say there's a massive COVID surge, and it's too bad for the people of New York.
00:14:42.000 My heart goes out for you.
00:14:44.000 You just have a leadership class that doesn't believe in treatments, so they're just kind of leaving you out to die.
00:14:49.000 I wish that wasn't the case.
00:14:50.000 New York judge ruled Monday that the state mask mandate cannot be enforced after it was reinstituted by Governor Kathy Hochl over concerns about a winter surge of coronavirus cases.
00:15:02.000 The Attorney General's office immediately filed an intent to appeal, but acknowledged Tuesday morning that the mandate was for now not in place until a hearing could be held.
00:15:12.000 So this is some good news.
00:15:13.000 It's some momentum that even in the liberal, dystopian, left-wing capital of America, New York, that the mask mandate gets struck down.
00:15:26.000 They're not going to listen to it, as I just said.
00:15:30.000 But there is some momentum, at least in lifting some of these mandates in giving people their lives back.
00:15:37.000 But I think that there's going to be portions of America that are going to be so, let's say, focused on the masks and the lifestyle alongside of it.
00:15:50.000 I'm going to make a prediction.
00:15:52.000 I think certain pockets of America pockets, not the whole country, New York, parts of New Jersey, I don't think they're ever going to lift mask mandates.
00:16:01.000 I think there are parts in New York where you will never see a waiter or waitress's face again for the next couple of years, if not next decade.
00:16:08.000 I think that the mask offers this cloth virtue signal.
00:16:13.000 It's also a fake comfort, is what it is.
00:16:16.000 I also think it allows antisocial people the opportunity not to actually have to converse with people.
00:16:23.000 I think it allows a generation that doesn't actually want to look people in the eyes or have legitimate connections to be able to avoid humanity, to avoid existence.
00:16:34.000 I think that the overindulgence in masks is the very same sort of antisocial behavior that we see from eight or nine-year-olds that are addicted to smartphones or iPads that just kind of stare at the ground and they kind of mumble to themselves.
00:16:46.000 You've all seen it, where they don't want to look adults in the eyes.
00:16:49.000 They get very sheepish, which, of course, we've created an entire generation like that because of these mask mandates.
00:16:56.000 There's even articles out there that show that people are writing that, I don't know if I'm ever going to be comfortable not wearing my mask again.
00:17:02.000 And make no mistake, the mask has very little to do with epidemiology.
00:17:06.000 We know that.
00:17:07.000 People know that by now.
00:17:08.000 The vaccines work so well, why do they need to keep wearing masks?
00:17:11.000 We've been through that whole thing.
00:17:12.000 Instead, it's a deeper coping mechanism of either control by the autocrats and the tyrants and trying to have this automatic obedience.
00:17:21.000 All the while people that willingly actually feel comfortable because it is the public marker.
00:17:28.000 It is the display to the rest of the world that I will let you dominate me.
00:17:37.000 So I don't know if there's going to be parts of the country that ever lifts these mask mandates.
00:17:41.000 One of the most horrendous things I saw yesterday, a picture of a first grade class in the yearbook, and every kid wearing a mask.
00:17:51.000 The Lord gave us a face for a reason.
00:17:53.000 We are the speaking beings.
00:17:56.000 You're able to see so much in a person's face.
00:17:59.000 It's dehumanizing.
00:18:00.000 But isn't their whole agenda dehumanizing?
00:18:03.000 It's actually par for the course.
00:18:06.000 It's consistent with every single public policy measure that they put forward, whether it be masking children or allowing urban crime to go unchecked or the abortion policies or chemical castration of children.
00:18:22.000 Dehumanization is what they do.
00:18:26.000 Let me ask you something.
00:18:27.000 What if there was someone out there who kept a log of every single thing you did every minute of the day?
00:18:31.000 I think that would be really creepy.
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00:18:55.000 That doesn't mean the VPN can see what I'm doing instead.
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00:19:54.000 This last weekend, something incredible happened.
00:19:56.000 There were two marches in Washington, D.C., the March for Life, which happens every single year, but then an unexpected march that happened anyway, over the weekend.
00:20:06.000 And it was incredible. 0.96
00:20:07.000 It was the March to Defeat Mandates.
00:20:10.000 Well, over 35,000 people descended on Washington, D.C.
00:20:14.000 And what's been incredible is the media blackout.
00:20:18.000 I meant to get to this story yesterday.
00:20:19.000 We just couldn't do it justice.
00:20:21.000 But it's actually better that we're doing it today because we got to keep the momentum going.
00:20:25.000 We have to keep this story alive because it's truly remarkable what the organizers and the planners of this event were able to pull off.
00:20:33.000 There were Republicans, there were Democrats, there were vaccinated people, unvaccinated people.
00:20:37.000 It was all about ending the mandates, something we've talked about on the show for quite some time, something we've talked about at Turning Point USA for quite some time.
00:20:46.000 And with us is one of the organizers, someone who I believe we had on the show last summer.
00:20:53.000 Actually, no, it was a year and a half ago.
00:20:55.000 It's Dr. Richard Urso, who is a medical doctor and a scientist with the highest honors from the University of Texas.
00:21:02.000 And he is from the Global COVID Summit.
00:21:04.000 Doctor, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:21:07.000 Welcome.
00:21:08.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:21:09.000 Appreciate you having me on there.
00:21:10.000 So tell us what happened this last weekend.
00:21:13.000 It looked extraordinary.
00:21:15.000 It was a lot of good energy.
00:21:16.000 You know, we pulled it together over just a couple of months.
00:21:21.000 We had fantastic attendance.
00:21:23.000 I think we had a lot of energy.
00:21:25.000 We've been working on this the entire time.
00:21:26.000 We took basically a group of doctors that basically the core, you know, from Hopkins, Harvard, Stanford, and we took these guys and we created a group called the International Alliance of Physicians and Scientists.
00:21:40.000 And we recognized that we're using medicine as the tip of the spear to basically, you know, change our society, create a tyranny and a mandate that didn't make any sense.
00:21:49.000 So one of the goals was we wanted to show that this has been a scientific fraud.
00:21:53.000 So the civil liberty side of it, of course, is one thing, but it's actually been a scientific fraud.
00:21:59.000 And so a lot of what's going on with these mandates actually makes no scientific sense.
00:22:03.000 And you've been on that since the beginning.
00:22:05.000 I remember we chatted back in the summer of 2020.
00:22:08.000 We had that summit.
00:22:09.000 It was kind of funny.
00:22:10.000 There are a lot of people trying to wear masks and also it was because they were forcing masks on us at Trump Hotel.
00:22:16.000 It was this wild thing.
00:22:17.000 But you were just as clear and as wise then as you are today.
00:22:22.000 And I say that for a reason.
00:22:24.000 And look, I think latecomers to the party should always be accepted.
00:22:27.000 But all of a sudden, there is kind of this new building consensus, like, oh, yeah, you know, maybe these things don't work the way they should.
00:22:34.000 And it's kind of like, well, the people that were early are actually doing real science.
00:22:38.000 Talk a little bit about that because, you know, you would think that the one portion of American life or the one area that dogma would be the least important would be science.
00:22:52.000 And yet it's been a learning lesson for me.
00:22:54.000 It seems as if the scientific method as we learn it in first grade was just completely put aside and we put dogma or even idol worship of a human being, Fauci, well above what clinical data was showing us.
00:23:09.000 It's funny.
00:23:10.000 The way you've phrased it, I'll have to give you something I teach people.
00:23:14.000 I tell them medicine, there's things you must do and then things you can do.
00:23:20.000 Also things maybe you should do. 0.83
00:23:22.000 But then we have what Fauci and those guys are doing, which is voodoo and doo-doo.
00:23:25.000 So, I mean, in general, you know, the scientific fraud has been a big, big thing.
00:23:29.000 And we knew right from the beginning, how can you say when you have a disease?
00:23:34.000 Right back in March 2020, I started using steroids.
00:23:37.000 I said it's an inflammatory disease.
00:23:38.000 And people were like, it's not.
00:23:40.000 It's a virus.
00:23:40.000 I go, the virus is dead after six or seven days, period.
00:23:43.000 All respiratory viruses do that.
00:23:46.000 And I said, you know, I started using steroids and some of the other drugs, got attacked for it.
00:23:51.000 But I knew I have duck, Charlie, one thing you didn't mention, I've been in drug development.
00:23:55.000 I'm one of the only docs probably that's invented single-handedly invented an FDA-approved drug.
00:24:01.000 So I basically have a real big background in the lab, 11 years, as well as being a doctor for the last 33.
00:24:08.000 So it was real easy for me to come up with strategies that might work.
00:24:12.000 And I was really shocked.
00:24:12.000 I didn't understand at first that there was coordinated effort to suppress all this.
00:24:17.000 So at first, I thought I was just going to call people, but clearly you saw the censorship, you saw all the being erased from Wikipedia, being erased from scientific discoveries like Malone.
00:24:29.000 They said he's, you know, not the inventor of messenger RNA technology.
00:24:32.000 So all of this has been a complete fabrication.
00:24:34.000 The asymptomatic transmission, the masks are amazing and work really well.
00:24:39.000 I mean, none of this was true.
00:24:41.000 So it's been a fraud from the beginning, and they keep doing it.
00:24:45.000 Looks like maybe we'll have it, looks like we're getting to a little turning point.
00:24:48.000 We could talk about that a little bit.
00:24:49.000 I think you're right.
00:24:50.000 And I think that march that you helped organize was a big part of that.
00:24:53.000 We're starting to see more and more people wake up.
00:24:56.000 We're starting to see a little bit, let's say, less intensity from people like Fauci.
00:25:02.000 He's still spewing nonsense, but it's not like a 10 out of 10.
00:25:05.000 It's a little bit like a six out of 10.
00:25:07.000 You can start to see a little bit of hesitancy.
00:25:09.000 Talk about why you think we're hitting a turning point, one of my favorite words, and kind of talk, give us some pieces of evidence to support that.
00:25:17.000 So, you know, medically, what we're seeing is that the virus has changed.
00:25:21.000 So I tell everybody it's like we had the Wuhan variant, alpha, beta, gamma, delta, right?
00:25:27.000 And those are all relatives.
00:25:28.000 They're like first cousins or brothers and sisters.
00:25:31.000 And now we have Omicron.
00:25:32.000 It's a little different animal.
00:25:36.000 It's like the uncle or the milkman came in and something happened.
00:25:40.000 And this is a little different virus.
00:25:42.000 And it doesn't bind as strongly.
00:25:45.000 It doesn't cause as much disease.
00:25:48.000 People can, if you're sick, if you have comorbidities, you still can die from Omicron.
00:25:57.000 But for most people, it's more of a cold.
00:25:58.000 They're kind of a good flu, actually.
00:26:01.000 You'd be pretty symptomatic.
00:26:02.000 So this has been a big thing because we are starting to see so many people.
00:26:07.000 It's very contagious.
00:26:08.000 So we have probably almost 60 to 70% of the people in the United States now that have had these viruses.
00:26:14.000 So herd immunity, in a sense, is taking place.
00:26:17.000 Natural immunity deniers need to be called out.
00:26:20.000 Natural immunity deniers need to be called out for what they are.
00:26:24.000 It's a complete farce.
00:26:26.000 And natural immunity is the best immunity.
00:26:29.000 There's nothing you could do with a vaccine that's going to be better than natural immunity.
00:26:33.000 And so those are the things we're seeing.
00:26:34.000 The virus has changed.
00:26:35.000 We have a lot of herd immunity.
00:26:37.000 The vaccines don't work.
00:26:38.000 They're too leaky.
00:26:40.000 These are just, these are facts.
00:26:41.000 It's not, I wish I could love to tell everybody that they were fantastic.
00:26:45.000 They're not.
00:26:46.000 And we're just trying to point it out.
00:26:47.000 We've got a better way.
00:26:49.000 Early treatment is amazing.
00:26:51.000 And we have a lot of herd immunity now.
00:26:53.000 And the virus has weakened.
00:26:55.000 The CDC has come out and they said, yeah, herd immunity, I guess, is okay, but it's better to have herd immunity, natural immunity plus a vaccine.
00:27:03.000 That's their new thing.
00:27:05.000 What are we supposed to do?
00:27:06.000 I love it.
00:27:07.000 So for everybody on the show, there are 146 studies to show that natural immunity is much superior.
00:27:15.000 The best thing we could say is on the lowest level, about 13 times better than vaccinated immunity.
00:27:21.000 So if you're naturally immune, you're going to be much more resistant.
00:27:24.000 And as we're seeing with Omicron, we're seeing breakthroughs in the vaccinated people.
00:27:29.000 It's literally like, I tell people, it's like wearing a blue shirt.
00:27:32.000 Wearing a blue shirt doesn't help fight the virus, neither does the vaccine.
00:27:36.000 fact that maybe in many countries we're seeing that the rates of Omicron are actually higher in the vaccinated people like the percentage that per 100,000.
00:27:46.000 So the CDC has had to give up that whole ship, right?
00:27:50.000 So they basically said, we're going to make a new thing called superimmunity.
00:27:54.000 There's no medical term as superimmune.
00:27:57.000 It's almost laughable.
00:27:58.000 I love their messaging.
00:28:00.000 If the government says it's an advantage, it's probably a disadvantage.
00:28:04.000 If they say it's affordable, it's probably unaffordable.
00:28:06.000 And if they say it's super, it's probably the opposite, you know?
00:28:09.000 So, you know, that's how the government works.
00:28:12.000 No, there's no such thing as superimmunity.
00:28:14.000 Super immunity.
00:28:15.000 I can't believe it.
00:28:16.000 So I want to ask you about this story this morning.
00:28:20.000 Breaking the last 24 hours, Biden comes out and says no more emergency use authorization for monoclonal antibodies.
00:28:27.000 Ron DeSantis is really irritated with this.
00:28:29.000 Some people are saying it's not working as well against Omicron.
00:28:32.000 There isn't a definitive answer on that.
00:28:34.000 But just talk about, let's just talk more broadly about what monoclonal regeneron has been able to positively do the last six or nine months.
00:28:42.000 And what is the thought process behind this?
00:28:45.000 So this has been a fantastic addition to our armamentarium.
00:28:50.000 The monoclonals from Regeneron have really helped a lot.
00:28:52.000 They saved a lot of lives.
00:28:54.000 We have other things that have saved a lot of lives.
00:28:56.000 I won't even go down the list because it's so many.
00:28:59.000 So if anybody thinks it's ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, I literally can tell you there's a doc that we're real familiar with.
00:29:06.000 It's treated 7,000 patients without hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin with only two deaths.
00:29:11.000 So we literally have, in a way, it's because it's inflammatory, Charlie.
00:29:16.000 It's an inflammatory disease and it's a blood clotting disease.
00:29:19.000 We have drugs for blood clotting and inflammation.
00:29:21.000 But let's go back to the monoclonals.
00:29:23.000 The monoclonals are real specific.
00:29:25.000 So each time they're made, in a sense, you have to think of an antibody as being like a car key.
00:29:32.000 It's very specific.
00:29:33.000 So as the virus mutates, it may or may not work so well.
00:29:37.000 And there is some concern, but we really don't know.
00:29:39.000 They literally just shut them down.
00:29:42.000 I'll tell you this.
00:29:43.000 I hate to reveal this, but I'm going to say it.
00:29:45.000 We know some of the people that are doing some of the work on sequencing, and we're still seeing a good amount of Delta.
00:29:51.000 So Regeneron is still working against Delta.
00:29:54.000 In some states, there's very little, but in some states, there's still a good amount of Delta.
00:29:58.000 So this is the, we call this, Charlie, the practice of medicine.
00:30:02.000 There's a nuance.
00:30:03.000 So in other words, just getting stuff from the CDC and the FDA, no, multiple people's minds.
00:30:10.000 They are not.
00:30:11.000 Our group of 17,000 doctors and scientists is more than the NIH, more than the CDC and FDA.
00:30:19.000 So people need to hear that.
00:30:20.000 And these guys are world class, all right?
00:30:22.000 We are doing our own data because they're not doing it right.
00:30:25.000 So the Regeneron works and the Omicron doesn't, they say, but we don't have our own data for that, that it doesn't work.
00:30:32.000 And there's one from GlaxoSmithKline that does work against Omicron, but we're not, we don't have access to it yet.
00:30:39.000 So people should be excited about the monoclonals.
00:30:41.000 People should know that they are working.
00:30:44.000 The government has hamstrung us and they should feel upset about it because we've literally spent billions on other strategies that clearly don't work.
00:30:54.000 It's beyond maddening.
00:30:56.000 And Ron DeSantis is saying this is going to cost people's lives.
00:31:00.000 And that's the most important point.
00:31:01.000 I said that on our show.
00:31:02.000 I said there's still Delta out there.
00:31:04.000 Omicron isn't the only variant.
00:31:08.000 And wouldn't it be wise or prudent at the very least to trust doctors and then also keep these centers open?
00:31:13.000 What if there's another unexpected variant?
00:31:15.000 I mean, we've got monkeys running around Pennsylvania infecting people, and that's not a joke.
00:31:19.000 I mean, you got all sorts of weird stuff going on.
00:31:21.000 I want you to wait right there.
00:31:22.000 I want to ask you about Dr. the 17,000 doctors.
00:31:25.000 I think it's so interesting and so admirable and honestly difficult to put together that many people to agree on to anything.
00:31:32.000 To get 17,000 people to agree on anything is incredible, let alone doctors.
00:31:35.000 So Dr. Urso, 17,000 doctors.
00:31:39.000 That's incredible.
00:31:40.000 What did they sign on to?
00:31:42.000 So we originally started the movement, you know, all the way back.
00:31:46.000 And I was working with all these doctors in many different venues.
00:31:52.000 And we started with Pierre Corey, myself, Peter McCullough, and eventually brought Malone in.
00:31:59.000 And then we kind of, we didn't really agree on some things.
00:32:02.000 So we kind of split apart a little bit.
00:32:04.000 And then as the data started coming in on the vaccine, we decided, hey, let's form this group.
00:32:08.000 Let's literally try to make a difference.
00:32:11.000 Let's literally try to be cohesive because they're trying to pick us apart one at a time.
00:32:15.000 And at the end of the day, all of us have really great science backgrounds.
00:32:20.000 And we were just trying to make sure that we wouldn't get picked apart.
00:32:23.000 So we decided to form the group back in August.
00:32:25.000 And it literally grew because of the great people who came on board early, Harvey Risch and Peter McCullough.
00:32:31.000 And Malone is our president.
00:32:33.000 And we've got so many others from MIT and Hopkins and Harvard.
00:32:39.000 And we just got an illustrious group right off the bat and then put together something that basically says the patient-physician relationship has been ruined by basically the hospitals and the insurers have created the corporate practice of medicine.
00:32:57.000 What that means is that the patient-physician relationship has suffered because literally they are telling us what to do, how to treat, you know, how to message to our patients.
00:33:08.000 And we thought it was wrong.
00:33:09.000 So what happened next, though, we formed a three-pronged thing, indisputable evidence of three things.
00:33:16.000 And number one, do not vaccinate our children.
00:33:20.000 They do not have a need to be vaccinated.
00:33:22.000 They have 0.1 per 100,000 and the 5 to 11 year old age group.
00:33:26.000 They really don't suffer from this disease.
00:33:28.000 It makes no sense to vaccinate our children.
00:33:30.000 Number two, natural immunity denial needs to be called out.
00:33:35.000 Natural immunity is the most superior immunity there is.
00:33:39.000 For instance, Charlie, 2003, SARS-CoV-1 patients are still immune to SARS-CoV-2 18, 19 years later.
00:33:48.000 And number three, let doctors be doctors.
00:33:51.000 We know what to do.
00:33:52.000 Patients trust us when we have their interests in mind.
00:33:56.000 Put the patient's interests and the doctor's interests aligned the same and let the doctors be doctors and let patients have informed consent.
00:34:04.000 And that was the three things, the three pillars of what we did.
00:34:07.000 We have indisputable evidence that there's early treatment.
00:34:10.000 We have indisputable evidence that natural immunity is the best.
00:34:14.000 And we have indisputable evidence that there's serious harm to children from these vaccines.
00:34:19.000 So we have two minutes remaining really quickly.
00:34:21.000 Where do you see this going next?
00:34:23.000 Do you think that there is momentum and a consensus building?
00:34:26.000 Where do you see this going?
00:34:28.000 So we ended up in the Senate on Monday, all of us testifying.
00:34:32.000 We had a great time.
00:34:33.000 Senator Johnson's fantastic.
00:34:35.000 He is.
00:34:36.000 I agree.
00:34:36.000 He's involved in helping the movement and getting the message out.
00:34:40.000 And I do want to thank you so much for doing so much for trying to put the message of science ahead of science fiction.
00:34:47.000 So that's really important to me to get that message out through people like yourself and Senator Johnson.
00:34:53.000 And so we are going to keep going.
00:34:54.000 We have the Global COVID Summit.
00:34:56.000 We're going on a traveling tour.
00:34:58.000 We're going to Hawaii next.
00:35:00.000 Then we're going to Arizona.
00:35:03.000 We're going to Texas.
00:35:04.000 We'll be going back to Florida, Georgia.
00:35:06.000 We'll be going pretty much every week or every other week to travel and bring this message.
00:35:11.000 Because Charlie, it's a global problem, but we've got to act on the local side.
00:35:15.000 So we're thinking, how do we organize people?
00:35:18.000 We have to reorganize.
00:35:19.000 You can't trust as much as we love our legislators, as much as we love a lot of our people, our school boards, we have to reinvent ourselves from the ground up.
00:35:28.000 And we're going to reinvent ourselves.
00:35:30.000 We're going to do a decentralized medicine.
00:35:32.000 We're going to do our own WebMD.
00:35:34.000 We're then going to take over telehealth for people who want.
00:35:38.000 We're going to have a huge telehealth platform.
00:35:40.000 We're going to do more urgent cares and ambulatory cares for doctors who are independent and will put patients first.
00:35:46.000 And then we're going to do surgeries in hospitals.
00:35:48.000 We are going to reinvent medicine, decentralized medicines, not controlled by government, not controlled by the insurers, and not controlled by pharmaceutical companies and hospitals.
00:35:58.000 Doctor, you got to think bigger.
00:36:00.000 You're doing wonderful.
00:36:02.000 We're going to change it all.
00:36:03.000 I love it.
00:36:04.000 When you're in Arizona, please come by.
00:36:06.000 You're a hero.
00:36:07.000 You have been so ahead of the times with this and honestly, one of the great defenders of our liberties because all this stuff is connected.
00:36:15.000 Unfortunately, we're out of time.
00:36:16.000 Thank you so much, Dr. Urso from the Global COVID Summit.
00:36:19.000 We'll see you in Arizona when you're here.
00:36:20.000 We appreciate it very much.
00:36:21.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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