The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Kirk vs. Karl Marx: Prove Me Wrong at Oregon St. University

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00:01:12.000 Okay, so I was just going to ask, I've noticed that Trump especially, but also just the Republican Party in general, talks about immigrants as if they're these incredibly violent, criminal people that, you know, they're bringing crime, they're bringing disorder.

00:01:28.000 Why is this something that keeps being talked about when, if you actually look at the data, Immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than natives.

00:01:35.000 This is a very repeated result.

00:01:39.000 Yeah, but not illegals, though. 0.95

00:01:40.000 The study was done on all immigrants, the ones that are vetted that come on H-1B visas.

00:01:45.000 No, even the ones that are done on illegals.

00:01:46.000 Not true.

00:01:47.000 You know why?

00:01:47.000 Because we don't know how many are in the country.

00:01:48.000 We don't know who they are.

00:01:49.000 No, no, but we...

00:01:49.000 So how can you study something when you don't know how many are in the country and don't know who they are?

00:01:52.000 I actually do know because I've read the studies.

00:01:54.000 Oh, how many illegals are in the country? 1.00

00:01:55.000 No, no, no.

00:01:56.000 I'm saying like...

00:01:57.000 No, no, no.

00:01:57.000 Tell me.

00:01:57.000 No sense you know.

00:01:58.000 How many illegals are in the country?

00:01:59.000 No, no, no.

00:01:59.000 I was saying I know how you study it.

00:02:00.000 What you do is you look at like people who are incarcerated and you figure out are they illegal or not?

00:02:04.000 Okay, so first of all, half of all crimes are not even enforced, let alone people arrested for.

00:02:09.000 Half of all murders...

00:02:10.000 No, no.

00:02:10.000 Let me tell you.

00:02:11.000 Half of all murders in Chicago are unsolved.

00:02:13.000 Half.

00:02:13.000 So how do you know who's doing the crime if you're not even solving the murders, let alone...

00:02:17.000 In Portland, what percentage of carjackings result in arrest?

00:02:19.000 To be clear...

00:02:20.000 No, no, no.

00:02:20.000 In Portland, it's a laugh.

00:02:22.000 What percentage of carjackings result in arrest in Portland?

00:02:26.000 So, like, you...

00:02:27.000 No, no, no.

00:02:27.000 Answer the question.

00:02:28.000 Like, I don't know off the top of my head.

00:02:29.000 Less than 5%.

00:02:30.000 So how can you know who's doing the crime if no one's getting arrested for the crime?

00:02:33.000 Because people are getting arrested at roughly the same rates across, like...

00:02:35.000 Wait, hold on.

00:02:36.000 No, no.

00:02:36.000 Answer the question.

00:02:37.000 If we...

00:02:38.000 I'm debating him.

00:02:39.000 The other white dude, Ferris, can come back in a second. 0.84

00:02:41.000 No, but first of all, how many people...

00:02:44.000 We know the answer to this.

00:02:45.000 How many people are currently in jail that came across illegally under Joe Biden for murder?

00:02:49.000 So...

00:02:50.000 I don't know off the top of my head.

00:02:51.000 13,000 murderers.

00:02:53.000 Well, wow.

00:02:53.000 Okay, so that's a really big number.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, it is.

00:02:55.000 You know what matters?

00:02:55.000 Percentages.

00:02:56.000 Okay, so how many people legally came under Joe Biden across the border?

00:02:59.000 That's not like the question.

00:03:00.000 No, I'm going to show you the percentage.

00:03:01.000 No, I'm doing the math.

00:03:02.000 So tell me.

00:03:04.000 No, what does this have to do with the rate of like the criminality between the two populations? 0.85

00:03:08.000 I'm explaining to you the rate.

00:03:09.000 I'm actually going to do the math for you.

00:03:10.000 Okay, explain.

00:03:11.000 Yeah, so how many people came across the border under Joe Biden?

00:03:13.000 I don't know off the top of my head.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, we don't know either.

00:03:15.000 It's roughly 10 million, okay?

00:03:17.000 Okay.

00:03:18.000 So you have 13,000 murderers out of 10 million.

00:03:21.000 That is almost double the national murder rate of American citizens.

00:03:25.000 Double.

00:03:27.000 Okay, so you think that every single...

00:03:29.000 Not every single.

00:03:30.000 Okay.

00:03:30.000 There was also 15,000 rapists and 420,000 other convicted murderers.

00:03:35.000 Not every illegal immigrant in the U.S. came under Joe Biden.

00:03:38.000 This is a crazy methodology.

00:03:39.000 No, but about 25 million of them did.

00:03:41.000 But this is an interesting question.

00:03:42.000 Do you think it's a crime to break into a country?

00:03:45.000 I mean, like, yes, but that's not the crime you're talking about.

00:03:48.000 No, no, no, hold on.

00:03:48.000 This is important.

00:03:49.000 So they're all criminals by definition.

00:03:50.000 But that's not the crime you're talking about.

00:03:52.000 When you're saying...

00:03:52.000 We're talking about additive crime.

00:03:54.000 But no, this is important.

00:03:55.000 But it's a complete misdirection.

00:03:57.000 They are criminals by definition because they broke into the country. 0.99

00:03:59.000 Okay, wow.

00:04:00.000 Then, like, if you sped, you're a criminal.

00:04:02.000 Like, I don't know what the point that you're trying to make is.

00:04:03.000 By definition, the people that broke into the country are all felons. 0.98

00:04:07.000 But when you say they're criminals, they're raping people, they're murdering people, you're not talking about...

00:04:13.000 You can't just retreat to say, oh, well, they all broke the law by breaking in.

00:04:16.000 That's not what you're saying.

00:04:17.000 No, but the rate is much higher.

00:04:19.000 Your study is completely flawed.

00:04:22.000 For example, go to Aurora, Colorado.

00:04:24.000 They've taken over...

00:04:25.000 One of the most conservative think tanks in the entire country.

00:04:27.000 Cato is not a conservative institute.

00:04:29.000 That is an open-border libertarian think tank that does not want solid borders.

00:04:32.000 But let's talk about the examples.

00:04:34.000 Are you willing to say that it's okay, even if, let's say, their climate is lower, to the families of Lake and Riley and Rachel Morin, these women that are raped and murdered by foreigners?

00:04:43.000 One murder is too much for an unwelcome person in our country.

00:04:46.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:04:47.000 Yes, it actually does make sense.

00:04:48.000 No, it doesn't.

00:04:48.000 Because they're not coming on our terms.

00:04:50.000 Are you going to let me talk or are you going to keep interrupting?

00:04:52.000 No, no, but tell me why it makes sense why even one murder is okay when they were never welcome.

00:04:55.000 It's like saying, well, they're in our living room, they raped my wife, but it's lower than the national rape rate, so I guess it's fine.

00:05:01.000 Because if you have a population that comes in that commits less crime than the native population, it actually lowers the likelihood of a native being aggressed upon.

00:05:10.000 Because, you know, immigrants are victims of crime too, and they're often more vulnerable than natives.

00:05:15.000 So it's actually, in a certain sense, they're actually protecting natives.

00:05:21.000 They're not immigrants. 1.00

00:05:22.000 They're border jumpers and line cutters. 0.99

00:05:24.000 Oh, sorry. 0.96

00:05:25.000 Illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:05:26.000 Whatever you want to call them. 0.99

00:05:27.000 I don't care.

00:05:27.000 But that population is far more violent than the native population.

00:05:32.000 So you can see the point then, right?

00:05:34.000 More violent.

00:05:37.000 So it is about the right?

00:05:38.000 It isn't...

00:05:39.000 So the worst thing you said about how only...

00:05:41.000 If one crime is committed by an illegal...

00:05:44.000 No, granted, I said, let's pretend you're right.

00:05:46.000 Under the moral standpoint of how a country should enforce its laws, even one crime is too much.

00:05:51.000 If a population is coming in and it is lowering the likelihood of the citizens of that country to have a criminal act committed upon them...

00:06:01.000 Let's try to find some common ground.

00:06:02.000 I want to know where you're coming from on this.

00:06:04.000 So cities that have absorbed a lot of illegals would be Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, LA. You agree? 0.99

00:06:10.000 Yeah, but like, when we do this, we actually...

00:06:12.000 Do you think those cities have become safer in the last four years?

00:06:15.000 Excuse me, like, if you want to answer this question, we have economists for this.

00:06:20.000 And economists have looked at this and find that generally, when immigrants come into a city, it lowers the crime rate.

00:06:25.000 Again, this is what's so important.

00:06:26.000 I don't trust these experts.

00:06:28.000 Okay, so you're just doing napkin math?

00:06:29.000 Like, you're just being like, oh, I can name a couple cities that got safer.

00:06:33.000 You know what I do?

00:06:34.000 Trust?

00:06:34.000 This is what I trust.

00:06:34.000 Do you guys feel safe in Portland?

00:06:36.000 No!

00:06:37.000 That's who I trust, not the economists.

00:06:39.000 The wisdom of the population and the voters of this country, not a bunch of economists at Oregon State University that are publishing white papers.

00:06:47.000 Has Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and LA, do you guys feel safer or less safer than when you were kids?

00:06:55.000 And yet they're absorbing more illegals.

00:06:57.000 They're not making the cities better, actually.

00:06:59.000 They're making them more dangerous.

00:07:01.000 And they're making them dirtier.

00:07:03.000 I could come up with a million just-so stories just like you did.

00:07:05.000 I could say, like, oh, well, like, you know, Corvallis has, you know, absorbed, like, some immigrants, and it's very safe here.

00:07:12.000 It's like, that doesn't prove anything.

00:07:14.000 Is Corvallis really safe?

00:07:15.000 I didn't know that, actually.

00:07:16.000 Yes.

00:07:17.000 Do you guys feel safe here in Corvallis?

00:07:19.000 I mean, you can look at the stats, or you can just, like, appeal to the crowd.

00:07:21.000 Like, I don't know.

00:07:22.000 But hold on, appealing to the crowd is important because the wisdom on the shared lived experience of a people...

00:07:28.000 Oh, lived experience now?

00:07:29.000 So, is that something you care about? 0.94

00:07:31.000 I thought that, like, lived experience was, like, liberal bull**** that, like, you know... 0.76

00:07:35.000 No. 0.97

00:07:36.000 Okay, so...

00:07:37.000 I mean...

00:07:38.000 Yeah, I mean, but when the lived experience also harmonizes with data, which it does...

00:07:42.000 It doesn't, though.

00:07:43.000 But, again, I've already gone through the data thing, and you have a study...

00:07:45.000 You haven't given me data.

00:07:46.000 You haven't cited a study.

00:07:47.000 All you've done is named four cities and said, like, these cities have gotten more dangerous.

00:07:51.000 You know why I did that?

00:07:52.000 Why?

00:07:52.000 Because everyone can appeal to that outside of you publishing some flawed study or me putting a study that you will not trust.

00:07:58.000 I could show you five studies that are done.

00:08:00.000 Which ones?

00:08:01.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation, the 10-year study over illegal crime wave.

00:08:06.000 I could send you study after study.

00:08:08.000 Not helpful.

00:08:09.000 I literally just did, okay?

00:08:10.000 There was also an Immigration Customs Enforcement report done by the House Republicans last month that shows the illegal crime wave, but that's not going to be persuasive to you.

00:08:19.000 What might be persuasive is to get down to an experience that you have that no one in this audience feels safe walking in Portland at night.

00:08:26.000 And yet, do you guys feel safe walking up Portland at night?

00:08:29.000 No, but you do?

00:08:31.000 You feel safe?

00:08:31.000 Yeah, sure!

00:08:32.000 You do?

00:08:33.000 Oh, wow, it's amazing.

00:08:34.000 So, the Center for Immigration Studies, which is a conservative think tank, they are the only people who have published a report that actually attempted to look at what the difference in the rate was.

00:08:47.000 Not just some ecological study.

00:08:52.000 But let me ask you, do you think that we have too many people coming into the country? 0.99

00:08:57.000 Like, what does this have to do with my question?

00:08:58.000 No, I'm just curious where you're coming from.

00:09:00.000 Do you think we have too many people coming into the country? 1.00

00:09:02.000 I think we have too many people coming in illegally. 0.94

00:09:03.000 I think we should have more people coming in legally.

00:09:05.000 Okay, well we can agree on the first part.

00:09:07.000 Well, yeah, but like, do you at least agree that legal immigrants commit less crime than natives? 0.99

00:09:12.000 Well, some of them do.

00:09:14.000 Yes, according to the study you're talking about, is that higher educated legal immigrants, according to that study, the study you're saying is correct in that regard, but it does not include the illegal population in there.

00:09:24.000 If you correct for education, if you correct for any of those, at every single different, like, strata...

00:09:30.000 Immigrants commit less crime than their native equivalents. 1.00

00:09:33.000 It is true that part of that is because legal immigrants tend to be more educated than the native population.

00:09:38.000 That's correct.

00:09:38.000 That's what I was saying.

00:09:39.000 But it is also true that more educated legal immigrants also commit less crime than more educated Americans.

00:09:47.000 In the same way that less educated legal immigrants also commit less crime than uneducated native born Americans. 0.79

00:09:56.000 Okay, we're not going to agree, but the more you look into the migrant crime wave that is legitimately happening in Aurora, Colorado, in Charleway, Pennsylvania... 0.99

00:10:04.000 Well, it sounds like I don't need to look into it, because all I have to do is turn around, say to the crowd, hey, like, the immigrants are fucking us. 0.99

00:10:08.000 I just gave you five studies. 0.98

00:10:10.000 Go look at the bipartisan report done by Congress about how crime has gone up as a result of illegal immigration happening on the southern border.

00:10:18.000 You can go look that up whenever you want, okay?

00:10:20.000 And you go look and read through the actual elements of data when it talks to illegals that are coming in Can you explain to me the data in that report that makes you think that...

00:10:28.000 I don't have it in front of me, man.

00:10:30.000 Like, I have a lot of information up here, but not that, okay?

00:10:32.000 So, the essence was this, is that the more illegals that you have coming into your country, the higher the crime rate, especially in counties like Springfield, Ohio, which were actually legal, or Charlotte Way, Pennsylvania, and others, they are eating the dogs. 0.98

00:10:45.000 Actually, the cats, not the dogs.

00:10:47.000 But, um, gotta be clear.

00:10:49.000 That...

00:10:50.000 Those counties experience an uptick in crime, DUIs, so on and so forth.

00:10:55.000 You can look at that study yourself and come back and tell me what you think.

00:10:58.000 Okay, well, like, but I've already looked at studies and I've asked you about...

00:11:02.000 I'm going to go to the next question.

00:11:03.000 What's not fruitful is you have a study, I have a study.

00:11:05.000 What is fruitful is trying to find agreed-upon lived experience the audience have.

00:11:10.000 And I will get back to my point.

00:11:11.000 Our cities are more dangerous than ever before.

00:11:13.000 People don't feel safe in them.

00:11:15.000 And that is an objective definition.

00:11:18.000 Something we're doing is not working, and the more people we bring into the country is certainly not helping. 1.00

00:11:22.000 So I just want to clarify that what's objective is asking people how they feel, and what's not objective is asking the FBI crime statistics.

00:11:29.000 I just wanted to clarify that.

00:11:30.000 Both can be objective, but what is very helpful in a venue like this, because we don't have printed out studies, is trying to appeal to people where all of a sudden people go like, you know what, yeah, Portland is super unsafe.

00:11:40.000 I wonder why that is.

00:11:41.000 Maybe something they're doing isn't working.

00:11:43.000 If that's how we're making decisions, if we're just appealing to people and asking them based on vibes how they feel, that's a horrible way to do public policy.

00:11:51.000 You're talking down to the audience.

00:11:52.000 I'm actually hearing their concerns and trying to formulate public policy that will fit them and their needs, wants, or interests.

00:11:59.000 Do you think any of those studies might be flawed, by the way?

00:12:01.000 Which one specifically?

00:12:03.000 Like Cato.

00:12:03.000 Do you think Cato has an ideological agenda when it comes to immigration?

00:12:06.000 Yes, but I've actually read the conversation between Cato and the Center of Immigration Studies report.

00:12:13.000 I want to get to the next question.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, but I've looked at the methodology and I think Cato's is better.

00:12:18.000 Straight up.

00:12:19.000 Okay, great.

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00:13:22.000 How's it going, Charlie?

00:13:23.000 I love the show.

00:13:25.000 I listen all the time.

00:13:26.000 No joke, I've been listening to about five to ten hours a week of conservative talk radio since the summer of 2008.

00:13:33.000 Yeah, just as a fun...

00:13:35.000 There was something going on in the summer of 2008.

00:13:39.000 I can't remember.

00:13:39.000 This new lady was breaking out onto the scene.

00:13:41.000 Big conservative star.

00:13:43.000 Is she still in the party?

00:13:44.000 She was a governor of Alaska.

00:13:46.000 I can't remember her name.

00:13:47.000 Hold on.

00:13:48.000 Sarah something.

00:13:49.000 No, anyway, my question is really quick.

00:13:51.000 I'll be really brief.

00:13:53.000 I would love it if you could just name two black Republican senators.

00:13:57.000 Well, there is one that I know of, Tim Scott.

00:14:00.000 Can you name a second one?

00:14:01.000 I'm not sure there is a second.

00:14:03.000 Maybe you could correct me if I'm wrong.

00:14:04.000 No, there's not.

00:14:05.000 No, there's not.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, so it's a trick question.

00:14:06.000 How about this?

00:14:07.000 Can you name me the only black Supreme Court justice?

00:14:09.000 Actually, there's two of them.

00:14:10.000 Well, it's not a trick question.

00:14:11.000 It's a question to try to prove a point.

00:14:13.000 So other than Byron Donalds, can you name another black Republican congressperson?

00:14:18.000 Yeah, Wesley Hunt.

00:14:19.000 Okay, do you know what the percentage of black Republican representation in the Republican side of Congress is?

00:14:25.000 Do you know what that number is?

00:14:25.000 It's not very high.

00:14:27.000 It's not very high.

00:14:27.000 No, it's about a fraction of a fraction of a single percent.

00:14:30.000 Okay, that's interesting.

00:14:31.000 No, but I'm curious, because I've heard you in other videos, you say, what's the total black population of the United States?

00:14:36.000 It's roughly 13%.

00:14:37.000 So 13-14% of the constituents are represented by.001% on your side.

00:14:42.000 Now, I'm curious about this one.

00:14:43.000 What's the percentage of the United States citizens who are Christian, who identify as Christian or Judeo-Christian?

00:14:47.000 Probably 50 to 55 percent.

00:14:49.000 What's the percentage of Christians who are Republican in Congress?

00:14:52.000 Just curious. 0.92

00:14:54.000 It's f***ing 100 percent.

00:14:55.000 Hold on a second. 0.75

00:14:56.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:14:57.000 Yeah, it's 100 percent.

00:14:58.000 Hold on.

00:14:59.000 Calm down.

00:15:00.000 You've talked this entire time.

00:15:01.000 No, but representation matters.

00:15:02.000 Oh, no, hold on.

00:15:03.000 One second.

00:15:04.000 How have the Democrats done overseeing the black community the last 40 years?

00:15:07.000 Are they wealthier, richer, happier?

00:15:09.000 Everybody has made mistakes, bro.

00:15:10.000 People are human beings.

00:15:11.000 No, no, answer the question.

00:15:12.000 I'm answering the question.

00:15:13.000 I just answered the question.

00:15:14.000 There has been successes and there's been failures.

00:15:15.000 What success has the black... 0.77

00:15:16.000 But on your side...

00:15:17.000 Can I ask you this?

00:15:18.000 Let me ask this question the other way.

00:15:19.000 What success, exactly?

00:15:20.000 So, Tim Scott, this is the best way to do this.

00:15:23.000 So, I'm an alumni.

00:15:24.000 I hope that's okay.

00:15:26.000 Oregon State alumni.

00:15:27.000 Yeah.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, go Beavs. 1.00

00:15:29.000 Go Beavs. 0.96

00:15:29.000 I used to live in Bloss Hall. 0.96

00:15:30.000 Anyone in Bloss Hall?

00:15:32.000 Bloss Hall? 0.92

00:15:33.000 Bloss Hall's all f***ed up.

00:15:35.000 That's sad that it's not been changed. 0.71

00:15:36.000 No, so this is maybe the better question.

00:15:39.000 So in 2022, Herschel Walker would have become the very first black Republican Senate candidate to win a primary and a general election to serve their first term in office.

00:15:48.000 As you know, Tim Scott was actually appointed to fill a vacated seat.

00:15:51.000 And then won later.

00:15:52.000 Right.

00:15:52.000 Right, but he won as an incumbent.

00:15:54.000 And what's the incumbency rate in Congress?

00:15:56.000 Does anybody know that number?

00:15:57.000 It's like 90-something, 96%, 97% incumbency.

00:16:01.000 I'm just curious.

00:16:02.000 My question is, because it's not going to happen this cycle, what cycle do you think Republicans will nominate and elect their first black Republican senator to serve in office?

00:16:12.000 You know what's interesting?

00:16:13.000 I think skin color is irrelevant. 0.98

00:16:14.000 Why do you care so much about it?

00:16:16.000 I just told you, buddy, it's not irrelevant because it doesn't matter to you.

00:16:19.000 No, no, it's interesting, though.

00:16:20.000 But, like, you say representation.

00:16:23.000 Representation matters to you.

00:16:23.000 No, stop it.

00:16:24.000 The only representation that matters is values, not skin color.

00:16:27.000 Oh, values.

00:16:29.000 Right, Christian values are important to you because 100% of Republicans in Congress represent Christian values.

00:16:35.000 Bingo.

00:16:36.000 Black values are not important to Republicans because 0.001% of your representation.

00:16:41.000 Tell me very slowly so I can understand. 0.63

00:16:43.000 What are black values? 0.71

00:16:45.000 I'm talking about the values of different communities.

00:16:47.000 No, no, tell me what they are.

00:16:48.000 Educate me on what black values are. 1.00

00:16:51.000 You're picking a stupid part of my... 1.00

00:16:53.000 You know what black values are? 1.00

00:16:53.000 They're Christian because they're one of the most Christian populations in the country. 1.00

00:16:57.000 That's what black values are.

00:16:59.000 How was the church during slavery?

00:17:00.000 I'm curious.

00:17:01.000 What did the church say about slavery?

00:17:03.000 They did, yeah.

00:17:04.000 I'm pretty sure there were a bunch of pastors and preachers.

00:17:06.000 Help me understand.

00:17:07.000 What is the difference between a white person and a black person?

00:17:10.000 We're getting off topic.

00:17:11.000 No, no.

00:17:11.000 This is your topic, my friend.

00:17:13.000 You know you're now starting to retreat a little bit because it's not going well.

00:17:16.000 I came out here to prove a point, which is that your side doesn't really want to involve itself in anything other than white Christian culture, and that's represented in the people that you bring to office. 0.86

00:17:27.000 Explain to me then, not just Wesley Hunt, but Ana Paulina Luna, and the growing Republican Party in the Hispanic community.

00:17:35.000 Are any of them in any leadership positions on your committees?

00:17:37.000 You guys do run a bunch of committees, right?

00:17:39.000 I'm curious, how many non-white, non-males are on Republican committees in Congress?

00:17:43.000 We've got about 118 Congresses to pick.

00:17:46.000 Quite a few, but the only distinction I will accept is the male-female distinctions.

00:17:50.000 I actually think that one matters, because I think male-female distinctions are important. 0.98

00:17:54.000 One the left does not believe in.

00:17:55.000 From the Bible, right?

00:17:57.000 Well, it's also biology.

00:17:58.000 You know, like XXXY chromosomes.

00:18:00.000 You do believe in male-female distinctions, right? 0.95

00:18:03.000 I love that you have to retreat to the biblical male-female. 0.77

00:18:07.000 I get it.

00:18:08.000 I didn't.

00:18:09.000 You can see XXXY in your blood work, actually.

00:18:13.000 How did we get on this topic?

00:18:14.000 Because I'm talking about distinctions.

00:18:16.000 So I want you to tell me, though, you say that the Republican Party is under-representing black America.

00:18:21.000 Well, not just black America, it's many other... 0.98

00:18:23.000 I'm saying they're over-representing white Christian culture, and that matters because it shows that that's what your value set is. 1.00

00:18:29.000 I don't believe that you have value sets for non-white Christian cultures. 0.99

00:18:31.000 What is white Christian culture?

00:18:33.000 Tell me what that is. 0.55

00:18:35.000 You drip it in the morning when you get out of the shower, bro. 0.97

00:18:39.000 Hating women, hating different people, and you know, yeah. 0.88

00:18:43.000 Senator Lummis from Wyoming is on a leadership committee. 0.92

00:18:46.000 Senator Lummis from Wyoming.

00:18:48.000 Yeah, that's a...

00:18:49.000 Yes, also...

00:18:50.000 When was the last time he had...

00:18:51.000 Hold on a second.

00:18:52.000 Also, Senator Katie Britt gave the response to the State of the Union address, and she...

00:18:55.000 Oh, she did a great job on that one, guys! 0.96

00:18:56.000 You guys remember that s***? 0.96

00:18:57.000 That was hilarious. 0.93

00:18:58.000 Okay, no, but tell me, you came after...

00:18:59.000 We are suffering! 0.73

00:19:01.000 Okay, so tell me very clearly, though, you said that I hate women and I'm misogynistic.

00:19:08.000 Can you give me an example?

00:19:10.000 I can't.

00:19:11.000 I don't have a specific example right now.

00:19:12.000 Yeah, because it doesn't exist, actually.

00:19:14.000 It doesn't exist.

00:19:15.000 I think it does.

00:19:15.000 Because you're making it up.

00:19:16.000 I think I got you earlier, though, and I love you, my friend.

00:19:18.000 Tell me your evidence, though.

00:19:21.000 Can you tell me your evidence?

00:19:23.000 Final question.

00:19:24.000 Are you voting for Kamala Harris?

00:19:27.000 I'm voting not Trump Never has an example.

00:19:36.000 Yes Yes, yes, hello, how are you?

00:19:37.000 I'm good, how are you?

00:19:39.000 Yes.

00:19:40.000 So, it's pretty clear that you will be voting for Trump next month, but I'm curious if you've read this book to see if it will maybe sway your opinions a little bit.

00:19:50.000 Is it empty?

00:19:53.000 No.

00:19:54.000 Oh, I love this.

00:19:55.000 This is the achievements of Kamala Harris.

00:19:57.000 If you want, you can try to fill it out too, but there's not much...

00:20:09.000 No, those white dudes for Harris need to start filling this out. 0.93

00:20:13.000 Look at how much she did on immigration, everybody.

00:20:17.000 Isn't that great?

00:20:18.000 God bless you.

00:20:19.000 Thank you.

00:20:20.000 All right, this is the brainwashed door.

00:20:24.000 We're going to talk about crazy kind of college opinions.

00:20:26.000 So I want to hear your thoughts on the writings of Karl Marx.

00:20:30.000 Not a fan.

00:20:32.000 What specifically do you disagree with it?

00:20:34.000 When he said specifically that in order, and I'm paraphrasing, I believe this is in either Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto, that private property, formation of family, and connection to the divine or religion must be eradicated for a communist revolution.

00:20:49.000 I think those three things actually underpin a civil society.

00:20:52.000 Yet civil society before believed in monarchism and believed that the king was divine and we moved on from that to have the democracy we have today, all the great things we have today.

00:21:01.000 Do you not believe there are other things we can move on from?

00:21:04.000 Well, first of all, actually, we're not a democracy.

00:21:07.000 We're a constitutional republic.

00:21:10.000 Second of all, no, I don't think we should move on from the family.

00:21:12.000 We're doing that right now in America, and it's a complete disaster.

00:21:15.000 As the American family disintegrates, and I would disagree with your stating, things aren't better than ever.

00:21:20.000 Our country's sicker than ever, more suicidal, more anxious, more depressed.

00:21:24.000 Crime rates are up.

00:21:25.000 We have deaths of despair way up.

00:21:27.000 We're in an existential crisis in this country, largely because people no longer believe in God.

00:21:32.000 Our family formation is down.

00:21:33.000 And private property to a lesser extent.

00:21:35.000 So those three things marks one after, which I actually think underpin any society I want to live in.

00:21:41.000 The eradication of the family did not mean that you have to hate your mom, hate your dad.

00:21:44.000 It just simply meant you don't have to associate them.

00:21:46.000 It meant you could associate with who you want, and the family is an arbitrary category.

00:21:50.000 So I don't think family is an arbitrary category.

00:21:52.000 I think that you should honor your mother and father, and that that is built into us.

00:21:57.000 I think that being around a nuclear family is good for all people.

00:22:01.000 And let's just look at the fruit.

00:22:02.000 Do you think America is improving the worse off our families are?

00:22:07.000 Our families are in terrible condition in this country.

00:22:08.000 Do you think that's been a good thing?

00:22:10.000 I don't think it's been a good thing.

00:22:11.000 Why do you think families are in decline?

00:22:13.000 Is there any economic forces underpinning that?

00:22:15.000 Well, the number one reason is divorce, and divorce is done way too cheaply. 1.00

00:22:19.000 The second of which is how people do not get married and have children out of wedlock.

00:22:24.000 And yeah, of course there's some economic things.

00:22:26.000 Part of what Marx talked about was correct, which is material conditions can impact people's livelihood or their agency.

00:22:32.000 I think he overemphasized material conditions, because I think values matter a lot more than material conditions.

00:22:36.000 And that's what Marx underestimated.

00:22:38.000 I think how you view the world, how you view yourself, and how you view yourself in the cosmos, most importantly, is more important than how much money you have in the bank account.

00:22:45.000 And that's where my biggest disagreement with Marx is.

00:22:47.000 He was highly, highly obsessed and focused on people's material standing.

00:22:52.000 I'm much more interested in people's eternal spiritual standing and of course how they view themselves in relation to the world.

00:22:58.000 Does that make sense?

00:22:59.000 I agree.

00:23:00.000 I'm going to move on.

00:23:01.000 Good question.

00:23:02.000 Thank you very much.

00:23:05.000 Any disagreements, you guys can chime in.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, yes.

00:23:09.000 Hi, my name is Cole Schmidt.

00:23:11.000 I was wondering, so you know how the Democrats, they're trying to take away our zins, our nicotine, our cigarettes, and I want to know what Trump's going to do to keep zins in my mouth and keep me smoking them zins!

00:23:26.000 Yeah!

00:23:29.000 The Democrats and Chuck Schumer have proposed 100% tax on zins.

00:23:35.000 Donald Trump has said no tax on zins and hands off your zins.

00:23:39.000 Hands off my zins! 1.00

00:23:41.000 Hands off my zins! 1.00

00:23:42.000 Hey, thank you so much because I need my citrus six millis in my mouth!

00:23:51.000 Yes.

00:23:52.000 I love it.

00:23:55.000 I will say I have a very strong opinion that nicotine gum or nicotine pouches is far better than marijuana.

00:24:03.000 That is my opinion.

00:24:04.000 I think it's way better for you than marijuana.

00:24:08.000 Hi Charlie.

00:24:09.000 My name is Ian and a question I had for you today is how many illegal immigrants were charged for murdering somebody last year?

00:24:20.000 Or how many people were murdered by illegal immigrants last year?

00:24:22.000 I don't know the number.

00:24:23.000 My guess would be probably 1-2,000.

00:24:27.000 I know that there's 13.

00:24:28.000 Am I approximately right?

00:24:29.000 23.

00:24:30.000 There are 23, and I know, I understand...

00:24:32.000 Do you count DUIs?

00:24:35.000 I don't think, I don't know if the number there is being counted in DUIs.

00:24:39.000 I'm talking about the FBI crime statistics that specifically say...

00:24:42.000 So DUIs, so killing and murder are two different things.

00:24:45.000 You might be right on murder.

00:24:46.000 Killing is a lot, though, because the number one community per capita that does DUIs driving under the influence is illegals in this country.

00:24:53.000 And I'm sure you guys experience this in a lot of cities.

00:24:55.000 So that's actually way lower than I thought it was, so I stand corrected.

00:24:57.000 I'll have to look that up.

00:24:58.000 So, do you think it would be a better way to decrease DUIs would be to give illegal immigrants a way to get licensed inadequately? 1.00

00:25:08.000 So, license illegal immigrants and allow them to adequately have the education to drive on roads in America? 1.00

00:25:14.000 No.

00:25:15.000 You don't think that would decrease DUI deaths from potential illegal immigrants? 0.97

00:25:18.000 And the answer is this, is that in states where illegals get driver's licenses, we haven't seen a decrease.

00:25:24.000 I don't know the specifics.

00:25:26.000 It's a smart question.

00:25:29.000 We're talking about murders, along with just general crime statistics.

00:25:34.000 You say we're more violent now than we've ever been?

00:25:37.000 Well, no, I didn't say that.

00:25:38.000 I said our crime is going up.

00:25:40.000 In the last 20 years, it's a far more dangerous country than it was 20 years ago.

00:25:44.000 Empirically, that's not true.

00:25:46.000 Since the late 1990s, crime has been decreasing every year except for 2020 during the pandemic.

00:25:51.000 No, that's not correct.

00:25:52.000 Violent crime and property crime are down since 1990s.

00:25:55.000 It's down from 2020, but it's up significantly from where it was 10 years ago.

00:25:59.000 It's also down from 1990s.

00:26:00.000 No, it's not.

00:26:01.000 It's not even close.

00:26:02.000 Look at the FBI crime statistics.

00:26:05.000 First of all, the FBI crime statistics did not include the four biggest cities in the country.

00:26:08.000 Why wouldn't they do that?

00:26:09.000 You think the FBI is woke?

00:26:10.000 Well, yes, actually.

00:26:12.000 You think the FBI, famous for sabotaging socialist governments around the world, is woke?

00:26:16.000 Well, that's the CIA. You're right, CIA. The FBI is super woke, actually.

00:26:21.000 The FBI, famous for targeting Black Panthers and revolutionary movements in America, is woke.

00:26:25.000 That was 60 or 70 years ago, but I won't even say that.

00:26:27.000 The FBI, I don't know why they did it.

00:26:29.000 I can speculate.

00:26:30.000 And just so we're clear, the FBI reports to the Department of Justice, which is Merrick Garland and was Eric Holder, and a lot of changes happened to the FBI, and a lot of changes happened to the DOJ. But let me just ask you a very simple question.

00:26:40.000 I did this earlier.

00:26:41.000 Do you feel safe walking the streets of Portland at night?

00:26:44.000 I haven't been to Portland.

00:26:46.000 Where are you from?

00:26:47.000 I'm from Phoenix.

00:26:50.000 I was born in Mesa.

00:26:52.000 So we're both from Phoenix.

00:26:53.000 Have you been to LA ever?

00:26:54.000 I've been to LA. Do you feel safe walking the streets of LA at night?

00:26:56.000 I've never had an issue.

00:26:58.000 I'm also a white man, so I'm not the person to ask this question.

00:27:00.000 Well, that means nothing when it comes to the streets of LA, right?

00:27:02.000 Sure.

00:27:03.000 But I've walked the streets of LA. Actually, if you're a white man, they're going to target you more because they're going to think you're rich.

00:27:09.000 I've walked the streets of LA and been perfectly fine.

00:27:12.000 At night, too.

00:27:13.000 Okay, we're living in different realities.

00:27:16.000 You're talking about anecdotal evidence, which is very powerful and appeals to emotion.

00:27:20.000 I don't want to discount anybody's personal experience, but I'm talking about empirical statistical evidence.

00:27:24.000 The empirical data, though, again, this is not helpful.

00:27:26.000 I did this previous...

00:27:27.000 You're just wrong.

00:27:28.000 Crime is up since 10 years ago.

00:27:30.000 It spiked during 2020.

00:27:31.000 It's down since 2020.

00:27:33.000 It's gone down a little bit since 2020, but it's still above where it was 10 years ago, especially if you count urban murder, crime, arson, carjacking.

00:27:39.000 And so it was especially where it was 20 years ago.

00:27:42.000 And how we tabulate crime is different.

00:27:43.000 We're not even catching all the people that commit crimes.

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00:28:50.000 What exactly was your question in regards to this, though?

00:28:52.000 Well, I was asking, why do you think crime is such a massive focus of the Republican Party when empirically it's down?

00:28:58.000 Well, again, it's not down.

00:28:59.000 It's because everyone's experiencing it in crime.

00:29:02.000 And it is not a confirmation bias.

00:29:06.000 It's not.

00:29:07.000 Well, I did read a study recently.

00:29:09.000 Because in Phoenix, crime is up, man.

00:29:11.000 I mean, like, where we're from, it's up.

00:29:12.000 Well, I haven't lived in Phoenix in, like, three years.

00:29:14.000 Okay, but, I mean, like, again, home invasions are up.

00:29:17.000 I mean, it's anyone...

00:29:18.000 Our whole team's from Phoenix.

00:29:19.000 I can tell you, it's materially up in the Valley.

00:29:21.000 Well, I haven't looked at the specific statistics for Phoenix, but if I'm talking about San Francisco...

00:29:26.000 It's way up.

00:29:27.000 The city that is targeted by conservatives for being the woke bastion of the world is down.

00:29:32.000 Crime is down.

00:29:32.000 Property crime is down.

00:29:33.000 It's not even close.

00:29:35.000 Again, it's because they're not...

00:29:36.000 Let me tell you why crime is down.

00:29:38.000 Let me tell you how this works.

00:29:39.000 If you don't respond to a 911 call, it's not registered as a crime.

00:29:43.000 Why wouldn't police respond to a 911 call?

00:29:46.000 Man, you're asking really good questions.

00:29:48.000 They don't have enough police.

00:29:50.000 They don't have the capacity.

00:29:51.000 And also, if you do not steal more than $900 in San Francisco, do you know it's not a crime?

00:29:56.000 I know what you're talking about.

00:29:57.000 It doesn't get registered as a crime.

00:29:59.000 It gets registered as a misdemeanor, not a felony.

00:30:02.000 We're talking about felonies here.

00:30:03.000 You're right.

00:30:04.000 So, for example, and I think we can find some common ground, there's some trouble if you walk into a Louis Vuitton store and steal a $700 purse not registered in the FBI crime statistics.

00:30:14.000 But we would all agree, you're stealing a $700 purse, that's a big deal.

00:30:17.000 And so because they've decriminalized what the statute of what crime is, then all of a sudden we're like, oh, things are safer.

00:30:22.000 Like, actually, no, things are not safer.

00:30:24.000 We just change what the definition of crime is.

00:30:26.000 In San Francisco, you have to steal $950 to warrant a felony arrest.

00:30:30.000 Otherwise, it's a misdemeanor, which is the same as illegal parking, jaywalking, or walking your dog in the wrong park.

00:30:36.000 Which, again, you're not going to get arrested for.

00:30:38.000 The number is higher in some red cities.

00:30:41.000 In Florida, the number is like $1,500 rather than the $900 you're citing for San Francisco.

00:30:45.000 Well, is it a red city or a red state and a blue city and a red state?

00:30:48.000 I don't know.

00:30:48.000 I'll have to look at that.

00:30:49.000 You might be right.

00:30:50.000 There's not a lot of red cities.

00:30:50.000 Can we agree, because I'm sure you don't want crime, right?

00:30:53.000 No, of course not.

00:30:54.000 Can we agree that we should not have these rules where if you only steal $900, you're going to get arrested?

00:31:00.000 No.

00:31:02.000 I think that reducing that to a misdemeanor wasn't to allow crime.

00:31:07.000 It was to focus on more serious crimes.

00:31:13.000 But they haven't, though.

00:31:14.000 And that's the problem.

00:31:15.000 And so, for example...

00:31:16.000 Why wouldn't the police, who famously support Republican causes, the police benevolence associations, are all donors to Trump, why would they not want to focus on all crime?

00:31:25.000 Oh, they are.

00:31:26.000 No, the police are the ones pushing against this.

00:31:28.000 So let's take an example of...

00:31:30.000 You're saying the DAs?

00:31:30.000 What?

00:31:31.000 You're saying the DAs are the ones?

00:31:32.000 The DAs are not.

00:31:32.000 Like, Chesa Boudin, who was previously in San Francisco, was totally against it.

00:31:36.000 So let's use an example of Chicago, something I'm sure you can agree with.

00:31:39.000 In Chicago, only about half of all murders get solved.

00:31:42.000 Right?

00:31:43.000 Only half of all murders.

00:31:45.000 Okay.

00:31:45.000 That's a big deal.

00:31:47.000 Even though the murder rate in Louisiana, which is...

00:31:51.000 Is very, very high.

00:31:52.000 Is much, much higher than Chicago.

00:31:54.000 No, no, for sure.

00:31:54.000 I can see that.

00:31:56.000 Again, but New Orleans is far from a red city, right?

00:31:57.000 And again, I'm not going to correlate every Republican place is safer than every Democrat place.

00:32:01.000 I will correlate, though, that the biggest places Democrats control, large in part, are the most dangerous cities and the places that are quickly in decline.

00:32:09.000 And here's how you know I'm right.

00:32:11.000 They're losing population.

00:32:13.000 They're losing population because of perception.

00:32:15.000 Because news media focuses on crime, even though it's going down.

00:32:18.000 Let me play that out.

00:32:20.000 Would someone sell their condo in LA based on perception or reality?

00:32:24.000 I think it's less to do with crime, and that's more to do with...

00:32:26.000 California is insanely expensive because of...

00:32:29.000 The illegals coming into California. 0.95

00:32:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:31.000 Newsom and his failure of housing policy.

00:32:35.000 Fair enough.

00:32:36.000 But I think we can agree, instead of all these stats, and you seem like you're really well intended, but the one stat that we can agree with is both California, Oregon, Washington are losing population.

00:32:48.000 And it's not just because of cost, okay?

00:32:50.000 In Portland, it's cheaper to live there than in Seattle, okay?

00:32:54.000 It's true.

00:32:54.000 Correct?

00:32:55.000 It's cheaper.

00:32:55.000 It's more expensive to live in this city than it is to live in Portland.

00:32:58.000 Why?

00:32:58.000 Because Corvallis has insane housing prices because of all the college students.

00:33:02.000 But think about it.

00:33:02.000 Are there other reasons why Corvallis is more desirable than Portland?

00:33:06.000 Well, so actually, I wouldn't agree.

00:33:09.000 Crescent Valley is historically one of the...

00:33:11.000 is the second richest district in the state.

00:33:13.000 Well, the suburbs of Portland are not Portland.

00:33:16.000 Well, Crescent Valley is hardly a suburb of Corvallis.

00:33:19.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:33:20.000 I thought you meant like the Beaverton area.

00:33:21.000 No, Crescent Valley is North Corvallis.

00:33:24.000 No, no, no.

00:33:24.000 Okay, but I guess that there's this, again, at some point there has to be a reckoning and a reconciliation.

00:33:31.000 I mean, you're coming after this fine.

00:33:33.000 Why is it that these four coastal cities of the West...

00:33:37.000 Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, LA, that are beasts, right?

00:33:40.000 At least Seattle, San Francisco, LA are beasts, are all losing population.

00:33:44.000 And it's not just because of housing.

00:33:45.000 It is because of housing.

00:33:46.000 Well, San Francisco's losing population, and they have not seen a housing spike like LA. They haven't seen the same housing spike as LA, but California and Newsom's, I will admit, Newsom's failed housing policies.

00:33:56.000 He didn't...

00:33:56.000 Can you get closer to the mic, please?

00:33:58.000 He didn't follow through on any of the more progressive housing policies that he promised.

00:34:01.000 There is a reality where people see their cars getting jacked into.

00:34:06.000 They see the crime on the street increase.

00:34:08.000 That's anecdotal evidence when it's statistically down.

00:34:10.000 I already proved to you, though...

00:34:12.000 You didn't prove anything.

00:34:13.000 Neither of us can prove anything.

00:34:14.000 No, no, no.

00:34:15.000 I proved to you that, and you agreed, when you consider only $900 of crime a crime, then it doesn't get registered.

00:34:22.000 For example...

00:34:24.000 Something like 70% or 3 out of 4 of all carjacking calls barely get a police officer to go there quickly.

00:34:30.000 Yeah, because the police won't do their jobs.

00:34:32.000 Okay.

00:34:33.000 I don't have a very positive view of the police.

00:34:35.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:34:36.000 So let's try to find some agreement then, if we can, which is when you see somebody commit a crime, are you more sympathetic towards them or do you think that we should administer justice?

00:34:50.000 When you see someone commit a crime, I want to know where you're coming from.

00:34:54.000 I believe in rehabilitative justice.

00:34:55.000 I think that that person should, obviously, if they'd have to return anything that they stole, they'd have to pay back any damages they did.

00:35:01.000 But ultimately, like you were talking with the person, two people before me, we need to talk about the material conditions.

00:35:07.000 And that person might not be doing that because they just want to commit crime.

00:35:11.000 Crime is not born out of fickle means.

00:35:16.000 It's born out of necessity.

00:35:17.000 Well, that's interesting.

00:35:18.000 So you think people rob luxury goods stores out of necessity?

00:35:23.000 They're not robbing it to take the Gucci watch, they're robbing it to resell for money.

00:35:27.000 Yes, but this is where you and I differ.

00:35:29.000 And it's okay, we have clarity but not agreement.

00:35:31.000 When I see someone who is committing a crime, I don't have sympathy for them.

00:35:38.000 I want to have a punitive justice system. 0.82

00:35:41.000 They're still human.

00:35:42.000 Of course they're human.

00:35:42.000 We should treat them humanely.

00:35:44.000 But I think what you're doing, though, is you're making an excuse saying, if you're poor, therefore crime.

00:35:49.000 And I think that's an insult to a lot of poor people that don't commit crimes. 0.65

00:35:52.000 No, it's important, though, because it's not about material condition.

00:35:56.000 I think it's about values.

00:35:57.000 It's about whether or not you're taught stealing is wrong.

00:35:59.000 Can your material conditions influence your values?

00:36:02.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:36:03.000 But I mean, not as much though.

00:36:04.000 Because let me tell you, if you have a strong family that tells you you should never steal no matter how poor you are, that's far more important than whether or not you have money or not.

00:36:12.000 And then your grandpa gets lung cancer and you can't pay for the medical bills that are piling up in this country, so you steal...

00:36:17.000 Let's be clear.

00:36:18.000 Do you think people that are going into Louis Vuitton stealing purses are paying for their grandma's lung cancer?

00:36:22.000 I think they might be.

00:36:24.000 You'd have to look at intention there.

00:36:29.000 But even if that intention was the case, it does not excuse the crime.

00:36:35.000 Again, you must judge the behavior, not the intent.

00:36:38.000 The intent is irrelevant.

00:36:39.000 Everyone has a good reason to go hold up a bank.

00:36:41.000 I think if we were to improve, say, medical outcomes in this country and not saddle people with medical debt, with college debt, with all these different types of debt, they might be less inclined to commit a crime that receives monetary value.

00:36:52.000 I completely disagree.

00:36:54.000 I need to get back to work.

00:36:55.000 I'm going to let the next person go.

00:36:57.000 I like your psychedelic mushrooms, though.

00:36:59.000 Okay, yeah.

00:37:02.000 Okay, thank you.

00:37:02.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:37:05.000 So, seven years ago, I was very much on the left, and since then, I've made very much a moderating journey.

00:37:11.000 I kind of identify as more of an independent now, definitely leaning very libertarian.

00:37:15.000 I'm a big fan of Milton Friedman.

00:37:17.000 I stumbled across his Free to Choose series.

00:37:19.000 I really loved that.

00:37:20.000 And since then, I've become wary of politicians across the political spectrum who think the answer to everything is more government spending and also seem to really enjoy wielding the power of the government.

00:37:34.000 I'm very skeptical of those two things.

00:37:36.000 And right now, I definitely think that the Democrats are more guilty of this, especially with the repeated attacks on freedom of speech, things like trying to classify, saying misinformation isn't protected by the First Amendment, and things like that.

00:37:49.000 But in terms of government spending, given what happened in Trump's first term, The deficit was still exploding and so did the debt and I think he created something like 65,000 new government jobs.

00:38:02.000 That may be off but somewhere around there.

00:38:04.000 I'm just wondering if you really think Trump is going to be that much better in terms of government spending and fiscal policy.

00:38:10.000 He will be, but you've isolated what I would consider be one of his few failures as president, which was the ability to balance the budget.

00:38:17.000 I'm in full agreement with that.

00:38:19.000 Okay.

00:38:20.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:38:21.000 No, but I think that we must reduce the size of the federal government and cut spending, which is unpopular on both sides of the aisle.

00:38:27.000 Republicans want more war.

00:38:29.000 Democrats want more welfare.

00:38:30.000 Warfare welfare state.

00:38:31.000 And they cut a deal to borrow a bunch of our money, erode our currency, and inflate our dollar.

00:38:36.000 And then we have a bunch of overseas abstractions and a lot of people addicted to government programs and a worse country.

00:38:41.000 So I think we agree on that.

00:38:43.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:38:43.000 I wanted to add one other clarification.

00:38:46.000 There's been a lot of talk earlier about sex and gender, and I definitely believe that sex is a binary.

00:38:50.000 But I think there is a misconception that it boils down to chromosomes.

00:38:53.000 A lot of people, I think, get this wrong.

00:38:54.000 There can be a lot of variations within chromosomes, but the one thing that there isn't variation between is large and small gametes.

00:39:01.000 There are two sexes because one sex is designed around the production of large gametes, which are eggs, and the other sex is designed around small gametes, which are sperm in humans.

00:39:12.000 So I think that's the more important distinction than chromosomes, and I just wanted to point that out.

00:39:15.000 That's a great point, and I might use it, so you're going to see it in a video sometime soon.

00:39:19.000 Okay, thank you very much.

00:39:21.000 That's why I do this, to learn while I'm here too.

00:39:23.000 Not a biologist, but that's my understanding.

00:39:25.000 Thank you.

00:39:26.000 Thank you very much.

00:39:28.000 You want a hat?

00:39:30.000 Give me the hat.

00:39:31.000 All right, there you go.

00:39:31.000 Get the hat.

00:39:32.000 Thank you.

00:39:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:39:36.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:39:38.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 17, 2024

Charlie Kirk vs. Karl Marx: Prove Me Wrong at Oregon St. University

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