On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie talks about the growing problem of immigrants in the United States. He explains why immigrants commit crime at a much lower rate than native-born Americans, and how this is actually a huge problem. He also points out that under Joe Biden, there were more immigrants in prison than there were under any other president in the history of U.S. history, and that's not even close to as bad as it is under President Donald Trump. Charlie also explains why the crime rate among immigrants is much lower than it is among all other groups of people in the country, and why this is a problem that needs to be addressed. If you like what you hear here, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and become a Member! You'll get access to all of Charlie's latest videos and special bonus content, plus he'll be giving out a FREE gift to one lucky listener who submits a question to Charlie. Thank you Charlie for all of the support, and don't forget to Like, Share, and Subscribe to his newest show, The Charlie Kirch Show! Click here to get 20% off your first month with the promo code: CHILLIEKIRK. You can't Ask Me Anything and I'll Tell Me What I Can't Do It! at CHILLiekirk. CHECK OUT THE SHOW AND GET A FREE Gift HERE! CHALLIEKERKirk's NEW EPISODE OF "THE CHILLY'S BONUS EPISODES! - CLICK HERE TO BUY $10 OFF YOUR FIRST MONTHORDSOME OF $10 OR $25 OR $50 OFFER $50 OR $55 OR $60 OR $75 OFF $100 OR $150 OFF $99 OFF $150 OR $99 OR $135 OR $137 OFF $137 OR $175 OFF $135,000? FREE PRICING AND VIP RATE AND VIP PRICED? CHANGE $5 OR $200 OFF + $150? - CHALLiekIRRATE $10,000 OR $100 OFF + FREE PRODUCER? FREE MODE BECAUSE I'll BE A FRIENDS ONLY? I'll GET A MONTH AND A VIP PACKAGE AND A PRODCAST WITH A FRIEND WILL BE IN A VIP PROMO AND VIPIZED? CHECK THEM OUT AND VIP FREE AND VIP CODE?
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00:01:12.000Okay, so I was just going to ask, I've noticed that Trump especially, but also just the Republican Party in general, talks about immigrants as if they're these incredibly violent, criminal people that, you know, they're bringing crime, they're bringing disorder.
00:01:28.000Why is this something that keeps being talked about when, if you actually look at the data, Immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than natives.
00:04:34.000Are you willing to say that it's okay, even if, let's say, their climate is lower, to the families of Lake and Riley and Rachel Morin, these women that are raped and murdered by foreigners?
00:04:43.000One murder is too much for an unwelcome person in our country.
00:04:48.000Because they're not coming on our terms.
00:04:50.000Are you going to let me talk or are you going to keep interrupting?
00:04:52.000No, no, but tell me why it makes sense why even one murder is okay when they were never welcome.
00:04:55.000It's like saying, well, they're in our living room, they raped my wife, but it's lower than the national rape rate, so I guess it's fine.
00:05:01.000Because if you have a population that comes in that commits less crime than the native population, it actually lowers the likelihood of a native being aggressed upon.
00:05:10.000Because, you know, immigrants are victims of crime too, and they're often more vulnerable than natives.
00:05:15.000So it's actually, in a certain sense, they're actually protecting natives.
00:05:39.000So the worst thing you said about how only...
00:05:41.000If one crime is committed by an illegal...
00:05:44.000No, granted, I said, let's pretend you're right.
00:05:46.000Under the moral standpoint of how a country should enforce its laws, even one crime is too much.
00:05:51.000If a population is coming in and it is lowering the likelihood of the citizens of that country to have a criminal act committed upon them...
00:06:37.000That's who I trust, not the economists.
00:06:39.000The wisdom of the population and the voters of this country, not a bunch of economists at Oregon State University that are publishing white papers.
00:06:47.000Has Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and LA, do you guys feel safer or less safer than when you were kids?
00:06:55.000And yet they're absorbing more illegals.
00:06:57.000They're not making the cities better, actually.
00:08:10.000There was also an Immigration Customs Enforcement report done by the House Republicans last month that shows the illegal crime wave, but that's not going to be persuasive to you.
00:08:19.000What might be persuasive is to get down to an experience that you have that no one in this audience feels safe walking in Portland at night.
00:08:26.000And yet, do you guys feel safe walking up Portland at night?
00:08:34.000So, the Center for Immigration Studies, which is a conservative think tank, they are the only people who have published a report that actually attempted to look at what the difference in the rate was.
00:09:14.000Yes, according to the study you're talking about, is that higher educated legal immigrants, according to that study, the study you're saying is correct in that regard, but it does not include the illegal population in there.
00:09:24.000If you correct for education, if you correct for any of those, at every single different, like, strata...
00:09:30.000Immigrants commit less crime than their native equivalents.
00:09:33.000It is true that part of that is because legal immigrants tend to be more educated than the native population.
00:09:39.000But it is also true that more educated legal immigrants also commit less crime than more educated Americans.
00:09:47.000In the same way that less educated legal immigrants also commit less crime than uneducated native born Americans.
00:09:56.000Okay, we're not going to agree, but the more you look into the migrant crime wave that is legitimately happening in Aurora, Colorado, in Charleway, Pennsylvania...
00:10:04.000Well, it sounds like I don't need to look into it, because all I have to do is turn around, say to the crowd, hey, like, the immigrants are fucking us.
00:10:10.000Go look at the bipartisan report done by Congress about how crime has gone up as a result of illegal immigration happening on the southern border.
00:10:18.000You can go look that up whenever you want, okay?
00:10:20.000And you go look and read through the actual elements of data when it talks to illegals that are coming in Can you explain to me the data in that report that makes you think that...
00:10:30.000Like, I have a lot of information up here, but not that, okay?
00:10:32.000So, the essence was this, is that the more illegals that you have coming into your country, the higher the crime rate, especially in counties like Springfield, Ohio, which were actually legal, or Charlotte Way, Pennsylvania, and others, they are eating the dogs.
00:11:18.000Something we're doing is not working, and the more people we bring into the country is certainly not helping.
00:11:22.000So I just want to clarify that what's objective is asking people how they feel, and what's not objective is asking the FBI crime statistics.
00:11:30.000Both can be objective, but what is very helpful in a venue like this, because we don't have printed out studies, is trying to appeal to people where all of a sudden people go like, you know what, yeah, Portland is super unsafe.
00:11:43.000If that's how we're making decisions, if we're just appealing to people and asking them based on vibes how they feel, that's a horrible way to do public policy.
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00:15:35.000That's sad that it's not been changed.
00:15:36.000No, so this is maybe the better question.
00:15:39.000So in 2022, Herschel Walker would have become the very first black Republican Senate candidate to win a primary and a general election to serve their first term in office.
00:15:48.000As you know, Tim Scott was actually appointed to fill a vacated seat.
00:16:02.000My question is, because it's not going to happen this cycle, what cycle do you think Republicans will nominate and elect their first black Republican senator to serve in office?
00:17:13.000You know you're now starting to retreat a little bit because it's not going well.
00:17:16.000I came out here to prove a point, which is that your side doesn't really want to involve itself in anything other than white Christian culture, and that's represented in the people that you bring to office.
00:17:27.000Explain to me then, not just Wesley Hunt, but Ana Paulina Luna, and the growing Republican Party in the Hispanic community.
00:17:35.000Are any of them in any leadership positions on your committees?
00:17:37.000You guys do run a bunch of committees, right?
00:17:39.000I'm curious, how many non-white, non-males are on Republican committees in Congress?
00:17:43.000We've got about 118 Congresses to pick.
00:17:46.000Quite a few, but the only distinction I will accept is the male-female distinctions.
00:17:50.000I actually think that one matters, because I think male-female distinctions are important.
00:19:40.000So, it's pretty clear that you will be voting for Trump next month, but I'm curious if you've read this book to see if it will maybe sway your opinions a little bit.
00:20:32.000What specifically do you disagree with it?
00:20:34.000When he said specifically that in order, and I'm paraphrasing, I believe this is in either Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto, that private property, formation of family, and connection to the divine or religion must be eradicated for a communist revolution.
00:20:49.000I think those three things actually underpin a civil society.
00:20:52.000Yet civil society before believed in monarchism and believed that the king was divine and we moved on from that to have the democracy we have today, all the great things we have today.
00:21:01.000Do you not believe there are other things we can move on from?
00:21:04.000Well, first of all, actually, we're not a democracy.
00:22:38.000I think how you view the world, how you view yourself, and how you view yourself in the cosmos, most importantly, is more important than how much money you have in the bank account.
00:22:45.000And that's where my biggest disagreement with Marx is.
00:22:47.000He was highly, highly obsessed and focused on people's material standing.
00:22:52.000I'm much more interested in people's eternal spiritual standing and of course how they view themselves in relation to the world.
00:23:11.000I was wondering, so you know how the Democrats, they're trying to take away our zins, our nicotine, our cigarettes, and I want to know what Trump's going to do to keep zins in my mouth and keep me smoking them zins!
00:24:46.000Killing is a lot, though, because the number one community per capita that does DUIs driving under the influence is illegals in this country.
00:24:53.000And I'm sure you guys experience this in a lot of cities.
00:24:55.000So that's actually way lower than I thought it was, so I stand corrected.
00:26:30.000And just so we're clear, the FBI reports to the Department of Justice, which is Merrick Garland and was Eric Holder, and a lot of changes happened to the FBI, and a lot of changes happened to the DOJ. But let me just ask you a very simple question.
00:27:03.000But I've walked the streets of LA. Actually, if you're a white man, they're going to target you more because they're going to think you're rich.
00:27:09.000I've walked the streets of LA and been perfectly fine.
00:27:33.000It's gone down a little bit since 2020, but it's still above where it was 10 years ago, especially if you count urban murder, crime, arson, carjacking.
00:27:39.000And so it was especially where it was 20 years ago.
00:27:42.000And how we tabulate crime is different.
00:27:43.000We're not even catching all the people that commit crimes.
00:30:04.000So, for example, and I think we can find some common ground, there's some trouble if you walk into a Louis Vuitton store and steal a $700 purse not registered in the FBI crime statistics.
00:30:14.000But we would all agree, you're stealing a $700 purse, that's a big deal.
00:30:17.000And so because they've decriminalized what the statute of what crime is, then all of a sudden we're like, oh, things are safer.
00:30:22.000Like, actually, no, things are not safer.
00:30:24.000We just change what the definition of crime is.
00:30:26.000In San Francisco, you have to steal $950 to warrant a felony arrest.
00:30:30.000Otherwise, it's a misdemeanor, which is the same as illegal parking, jaywalking, or walking your dog in the wrong park.
00:30:36.000Which, again, you're not going to get arrested for.
00:30:38.000The number is higher in some red cities.
00:30:41.000In Florida, the number is like $1,500 rather than the $900 you're citing for San Francisco.
00:30:45.000Well, is it a red city or a red state and a blue city and a red state?
00:31:16.000Why wouldn't the police, who famously support Republican causes, the police benevolence associations, are all donors to Trump, why would they not want to focus on all crime?
00:31:56.000Again, but New Orleans is far from a red city, right?
00:31:57.000And again, I'm not going to correlate every Republican place is safer than every Democrat place.
00:32:01.000I will correlate, though, that the biggest places Democrats control, large in part, are the most dangerous cities and the places that are quickly in decline.
00:32:36.000But I think we can agree, instead of all these stats, and you seem like you're really well intended, but the one stat that we can agree with is both California, Oregon, Washington are losing population.
00:32:48.000And it's not just because of cost, okay?
00:32:50.000In Portland, it's cheaper to live there than in Seattle, okay?
00:33:46.000Well, San Francisco's losing population, and they have not seen a housing spike like LA. They haven't seen the same housing spike as LA, but California and Newsom's, I will admit, Newsom's failed housing policies.
00:34:36.000So let's try to find some agreement then, if we can, which is when you see somebody commit a crime, are you more sympathetic towards them or do you think that we should administer justice?
00:34:50.000When you see someone commit a crime, I want to know where you're coming from.
00:34:55.000I think that that person should, obviously, if they'd have to return anything that they stole, they'd have to pay back any damages they did.
00:35:01.000But ultimately, like you were talking with the person, two people before me, we need to talk about the material conditions.
00:35:07.000And that person might not be doing that because they just want to commit crime.
00:35:11.000Crime is not born out of fickle means.
00:36:04.000Because let me tell you, if you have a strong family that tells you you should never steal no matter how poor you are, that's far more important than whether or not you have money or not.
00:36:12.000And then your grandpa gets lung cancer and you can't pay for the medical bills that are piling up in this country, so you steal...
00:36:39.000Everyone has a good reason to go hold up a bank.
00:36:41.000I think if we were to improve, say, medical outcomes in this country and not saddle people with medical debt, with college debt, with all these different types of debt, they might be less inclined to commit a crime that receives monetary value.
00:37:20.000And since then, I've become wary of politicians across the political spectrum who think the answer to everything is more government spending and also seem to really enjoy wielding the power of the government.
00:37:34.000I'm very skeptical of those two things.
00:37:36.000And right now, I definitely think that the Democrats are more guilty of this, especially with the repeated attacks on freedom of speech, things like trying to classify, saying misinformation isn't protected by the First Amendment, and things like that.
00:37:49.000But in terms of government spending, given what happened in Trump's first term, The deficit was still exploding and so did the debt and I think he created something like 65,000 new government jobs.
00:38:02.000That may be off but somewhere around there.
00:38:04.000I'm just wondering if you really think Trump is going to be that much better in terms of government spending and fiscal policy.
00:38:10.000He will be, but you've isolated what I would consider be one of his few failures as president, which was the ability to balance the budget.
00:38:43.000I wanted to add one other clarification.
00:38:46.000There's been a lot of talk earlier about sex and gender, and I definitely believe that sex is a binary.
00:38:50.000But I think there is a misconception that it boils down to chromosomes.
00:38:53.000A lot of people, I think, get this wrong.
00:38:54.000There can be a lot of variations within chromosomes, but the one thing that there isn't variation between is large and small gametes.
00:39:01.000There are two sexes because one sex is designed around the production of large gametes, which are eggs, and the other sex is designed around small gametes, which are sperm in humans.
00:39:12.000So I think that's the more important distinction than chromosomes, and I just wanted to point that out.
00:39:15.000That's a great point, and I might use it, so you're going to see it in a video sometime soon.