Charlie Kirk is the founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest pro-American student organization in the country, fighting for the future of our republic. In this episode, Charlie talks about his views on the Super Bowl halftime show, sexual education in the media, and the perils of sexual anarchy.
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00:01:09.000My guest today is Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of TPUSA.
00:01:13.000Charlie, thanks so much for joining us.
00:01:23.000Yeah, I mean, look, I'll never apologize for defending the innocent of children, innocence of children, which the left has always tried to get rid of the innocence of children.
00:01:32.000And there's this Super Bowl halftime show that I guess people liked, whatever.
00:01:36.000I wasn't making commentary on the music.
00:01:38.000And if you watch the 50 Cent portion of it, which is, let's just put it nicely, scantily clad women, you know, bending over like long snappers in a football game and being incredibly suggestive, there's no way you could say that that's okay for a six-year-old to see.
00:01:53.000It's the most broadcast event in humanity.
00:02:20.000It's sexual anarchy, which it is, which is a term that I've been using that I got from my friend Pastor David Engelhardt, which is the sexual domain, no rules at all, just complete anarchy there.
00:02:29.000No order, no tradition, no right and wrong.
00:02:32.000We have all sorts of different sort of components there.
00:02:34.000And I said it shouldn't be a lot on network television, and I stand by that because network television should be a reflection of the type of society we want to live in.
00:02:58.000And so we're talking about that one specific instance.
00:03:00.000And obviously, but like, look, you asked why, going back to Huxley's prediction of everyone belonging to everybody and sexual restraint kind of getting completely eroded, it's been a deliberate goal of the left post-1960s to make sexuality something that is not private or sacred, but instead widespread and normalized.
00:03:21.000And that actually creates really normal, that creates really miserable people in a chaotic society.
00:03:25.000And that's so interesting because, you know, we see so many examples of what you're talking about.
00:03:29.000Hookup culture is so prevalent, more and more gender ideology, pushing for children to think of themselves as a different gender as young as a toddler.
00:03:38.000Why do you think that so much of this is being pushed on our youth and what effect will it have on the coming generations?
00:03:44.000I mean, I'm unafraid to say this is being organized on a supernatural level.
00:03:47.000I mean, it's a spiritual war, no doubt.
00:03:49.000The enemy wants to have people have, declare war on their biological reality and take them away from things that actually give them meaning and purpose.
00:03:58.000And so I think that this is being organized on a supernatural level.
00:04:02.000I say it while I'm a Christian and I stand by it.
00:04:03.000You can't be a Christian and not believe that, right?
00:04:05.000So that's a metaphysical part of believing in Christianity.
00:04:11.000But look, it's also that you asked the why.
00:04:15.000I think that there is a group of people that have sinned and we're all sinners, but they somehow want to normalize and institutionalize it and act as if that's okay.
00:04:26.000But there's no way that you could say that, you know, 12-year-olds getting sexual education courses or even having sex in general or 14-year-olds is good for society.
00:04:49.000Yeah, and I always hear TPUSA talking about encouraging young people to get married.
00:04:53.000And I think that's really interesting, but something I keep noticing lately is, you know, you can get married, but that doesn't mean that it's going to last.
00:04:59.000So how do we tell young people to marry the right person?
00:05:02.000You know, how do we equip them to marry a good person?
00:05:05.000Yeah, I mean, that I happened to meet the best person on the planet and I married her.
00:05:09.000So I guess I'm lucky or fortunate or blessed or whatever.
00:05:14.000That's a whole separate issue where men are super weak.
00:05:18.000They become beta males and women don't want to marry them.
00:06:15.000Well, I know, but I'm not trying to say you're a bad person if you've stepped.
00:06:18.000I'm not getting pre, like, I'm not trying to like kind of like go after you in that way, but it should be something that we should, like, yeah, you know what?
00:06:25.000We should try to have more people, your young people.
00:06:27.000I actually think they'll be happier and more fulfilled.
00:06:44.000What else do you think is important for young people to know?
00:06:47.000Like, what is the greatest thing that we're combating these days?
00:06:49.000Yeah, I mean, I think it's, again, I think it's a spiritual component.
00:06:52.000But I also think that it's something that we must be, you know, we can't get too kind of into our own doctrine where we're unafraid to talk to other people about this, right?
00:07:04.000And some people are still trying to get their lives together.
00:07:05.000They've never kind of been exposed to this.
00:07:07.000But I also think that we shouldn't be okay with laws or public policy that makes it harder to get married and have children, right?
00:07:16.000And so there are three things that create conservatives.
00:08:03.000It's become less so, and I think that's a good thing.
00:08:05.000I like the libertarians on a lot of different things, lockdowns, you know, gun issues, things like that.
00:08:11.000But I don't think that you can order a society towards meaning or purpose if you tell an 18-year-old, go do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it, and you're somehow going to be happy.
00:08:19.000It actually creates miserable people most times.
00:08:21.000Some people might be able to figure it out.
00:08:22.000God bless you, but you'll actually probably end up 26 and unmarried and you own nothing and you're wondering where your purpose in the cosmos is.
00:08:31.000It creates an existential crisis, actually.
00:08:33.000And I don't think we have to recreate the wheel, if you will.
00:08:36.000There's thousands of years of biblical tradition that has allowed people to have meaning, which is the three-tide not of what came before you, what's happening now, what's going to happen in the future.
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00:09:54.000So we could either talk, it's obviously the NFL is starting tonight, or we could talk about debate.
00:10:01.000Debate on, so let's just ask a question.
00:10:03.000Are you guys excited for the NFL season, or is it just like too woke for you to watch?
00:10:07.000I feel like I've, so I started off when I was a kid.
00:10:09.000I was a fanatical fan of the NFL, and like I would cry when the Packers lost and it would just like, oh, 2000, 2007, I think, was the one that was like really weighed on me.
00:10:20.000That was when Brett Favre was still there.
00:10:21.000Yeah, it was Brett Favre, and then he loses the last game on a pick, and I was like all super sad about it.
00:10:26.000There were as many touchdowns as interceptions.
00:11:05.000But I saw when I went there, just to finish the story, I went there and there were all these men who were like substantially older than me.
00:11:12.000And they were still, it's Vikings fans here.
00:11:14.000So they were still really upset about that Packer, the Viking Saints game where Sean Payton had.
00:13:43.000I actually have in my eighth grade yearbook, I actually have a reference to the 85 Bears from, of course, my favorite Saturday Night Live sketch of all time.
00:13:57.000To give an idea of how crazy good the 85 Bears were, we have not won a Super Bowl in 40 years, and it's still the only thing that middle-aged, mildly overweight men in Chicago still talk about is the 85 Bears.
00:16:58.000It's great that the Packers are publicly owned, but owning a piece of Packers stock if you are not one of the OG people from the 60s is a scam.
00:21:15.000The Bears, it's just like, oh, here's their 87th quarterback of the last seasons.
00:21:21.000See, and they're like, oh, Jay Cutler just managed to throw the ball for 3,200 yards and 12 touchdowns, thereby cementing the greatest offensive season by any Bears quarterback in history.
00:21:32.000Do you think, so of this list, Lions, I agree.
00:21:39.000The Falcons, man, that's such a sad story, isn't it?
00:21:43.000Well, it depends on your point of view.
00:21:44.000Like, the Falcons, so remember, I don't hate the Falcons.
00:21:47.000I don't hate the Falcons, but I will be appreciative that in the 2017 Super Bowl, this is right after the 2016 election, the media basically decided that the Falcons were the Lib America team because they represented Atlanta.
00:22:45.000I'll never forget that the moment I realized it could happen.
00:22:50.000There were two things that'll always stick out with me.
00:22:52.000My friend who was doing poll watching in New Hampshire just tells me, Blake, we're getting these random hunters from rural New Hampshire who haven't voted in 12 years and they're coming out and a lot of them are coming out.
00:24:32.000I think my final map, we had a contest at the Daily Caller, and I got very close to the actual electoral vote total, but I was off in the States.
00:27:00.000Well, so the Eagles lately, the biggest thing this week was this whole thing with the Kamala Harris ad, like the fake, they claimed was a fake ad that went up.
00:27:09.000I don't know if we have the image saying that Kamala Harris is the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:27:15.000And this was going up at at least one bus station in right in like Center City, Philadelphia.
00:27:47.000He was Christian Moellar, who said in the comments, because so this other guy who's a Trump supporter from Philly went over and started like plastering over the Eagle over this quote-unquote fake ad.
00:28:00.000And then Christian Mollar, a Twitter user, and you know, shout out to Lara Loomer for catching this, by the way, that said in the comments, how dare this guy cover up the unofficial ad or cover up an ad like this?
00:28:12.000And if you don't like it, that's too bad.
00:28:13.000And people are like, wait, who's this guy saying it's a real ad?
00:28:16.000And it turns out that he was the director of team relationships for the Eagles and actually worked at the Eagles for like 25 years.
00:28:26.000So as someone who would be very well within the know of actually knowing whether or not this was a real ad.
00:28:32.000So he subsequently locked his Twitter account and it's become this sort of like whole firestorm as to whether or not this guy had potentially actually approved whatever this thing is to go up.
00:28:44.000I have no sympathy for the Eagles and I hope they lose every game and that they sell their franchise for parts.
00:29:25.000Again, by the way, like if people, if people want an understanding of who Pesobic is, just understand that I grew up as a Philadelphia sports fan.
00:29:50.000I've already got people that are looking into this guy's family because it turns out that this Christian Molnar guy is also from Narstown, Pennsylvania, which is the exact same town that I'm from, just outside Philly.
00:31:58.000Or you just watch football, you know, depending on your point of view.
00:32:01.000And then there's a Monday night game if you're an obsessive.
00:32:03.000And them colonizing that one day a week actually is like the perfect level of dominance without it drowning everything out.
00:32:09.000And the other thing is the NFL is the last thing that's on normal television.
00:32:15.000And where I could see them screwing up the golden goose is they let a bunch of games go on Peacock or Amazon Prime or Netflix or something stupid like that.
00:32:29.000And suddenly, too many NFL games are on some bullcrap subscription service that you have to buy rather than just on normal TV.
00:33:25.000I just don't get the whole, like, oh, the great amateur sportsmanship when every single player is this mercenary for hire on a one-year contract for whatever booster we'll take.
00:34:20.000We'll get our one Super Bowl win that we get with each of our Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and then he'll be the quarterback for the next 18 years, and then he'll go play on the Jets for a year and then the Vikings.
00:36:35.000America's better when sports are on TV.
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00:37:54.000The Philadelphia, the little lower third, the scoreboard.
00:37:57.000It looked as if someone made it in clipart.
00:38:00.000Do you know, usually they have all these opulent, elaborate-I didn't like it.
00:38:05.000I know that we've all agreed as a society.
00:38:07.000No one took a vote that after trying to the left and trying to the right and trying to the upper left and the right, that the bottom is the best.
00:38:14.000I just, I thought it was very underwhelming.
00:38:16.000I will say, I think, Andrew, thank you for bringing this up.
00:39:24.000I thought that was the best one because it also had the Bears in it.
00:39:27.000But the greatest moment of the Super Bowl, to great Daisy and Emma's delight, was when finally, I don't know if Taylor Swift has ever gotten booed.
00:40:45.000And then there was this Nike ad saying that women were oppressed.
00:40:49.000Overall, I will say, though, that the advertisements were probably more pro-American, more pro-family, and a little less woke than I would have anticipated in previous years.
00:41:00.000But it just seems like the spark and the creativity was largely missing from them.
00:41:04.000You could see them clearly trying to signal, but a lot of the ads were just bland.
00:41:22.000And, you know, they say that the Super Bowl reflects kind of where American culture is.
00:41:27.000And here's the best summary I could give.
00:41:32.000We are in progress of exercising the woke, but we're not there yet.
00:41:36.000We're in progress of expelling it from our system, but we're not there yet.
00:41:40.000The vibe ship is clear, but we still have a lot of work to do.
00:41:45.000And by the way, so many of the ads were released before the Super Bowl, so it wasn't exciting to watch it for the first time like it used to be.
00:41:50.000But I mean, if I was a marketing agent, I would release it ahead of time because you get all these extra views and then you get the views at the Super Bowl.
00:41:56.000So releasing ahead of time, I think is actually super smart.
00:42:00.000Overall, I was thrilled to see the Kansas City Chiefs lose.
00:42:17.000There's going to have to be like a rebuilding plan, a national stimulus plan.
00:42:21.000I think FEMA is going to have to visit Philly after what happened last night.
00:42:25.000But I was happiest of all for Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts.
00:42:29.000In 2018, I remember he was benched in the middle of the national championship where Tua Tagamaola took over, and then he ended up having to transfer to Oklahoma.