The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie's 2024 THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving With the Crew

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:09.000 Okay, everybody.

00:01:10.000 Hello.

00:01:10.000 It is Thought Crime Week.

00:01:13.000 It is Thanksgiving week.

00:01:15.000 And we are here.

00:01:16.000 By the way, the official uniform of Thought Crime this week is the Thanksgiving uniform.

00:01:21.000 I decided to go as Charlie Kirk for this Thanksgiving.

00:01:24.000 I didn't fully shave.

00:01:25.000 I might later.

00:01:27.000 And then like your hair thing where you do like the down-up.

00:01:30.000 It's the natural color.

00:01:32.000 It's like a Nike swoosh.

00:01:33.000 It is.

00:01:34.000 I have it to have it trademarked.

00:01:35.000 Is that why you only wear Nikes?

00:01:37.000 I actually don't only wear Nikes.

00:01:40.000 But I should.

00:01:41.000 So we also have Blake and Tyler as well.

00:01:43.000 What are they wearing?

00:01:44.000 Let's see.

00:01:44.000 Blake is probably wearing a Turkey.

00:01:45.000 I'm wearing my turkey hat.

00:01:47.000 I believe this is a Kirkland shirt.

00:01:49.000 I don't actually have a Costco membership, but I'll be honest, my mother buys a lot of shirts for me.

00:01:54.000 I'm wearing my turkey hat, my Native American shawl.

00:01:58.000 I hear all you guys in there.

00:01:59.000 And then my Arizona State t-shirt because we're going to the Big Tall Championship unless things go awry on Saturday.

00:02:05.000 Well, maybe.

00:02:06.000 Hold on, Tyler.

00:02:07.000 You know the story of Arizona football.

00:02:09.000 Whatever is predictable.

00:02:10.000 No, Tyler knows this.

00:02:11.000 They will curse whatever inevitable path they have.

00:02:14.000 They mess it up.

00:02:16.000 It is an inevitability of Arizona State football.

00:02:19.000 I've got a front row seat, Charlie, on Saturday with my two brothers right behind Kenny Dilleham.

00:02:25.000 So down in Tucson. 0.99

00:02:28.000 This is a very dumb question. 0.99

00:02:30.000 Oh, you're going down to the city. 1.00

00:02:32.000 I'm going down to Tucson and front row seat.

00:02:36.000 I like Tucson.

00:02:37.000 So it's going to be a miserable drive to know what you're seeing. 1.00

00:02:39.000 This is a dumb question. 0.88

00:02:40.000 Having never gone to an ASU football game, do they just like suffer in complete agony for their first three home games of the season? 0.99

00:02:49.000 Because, you know, it's a traditional.

00:02:50.000 Oh, no, they do evenings.

00:02:51.000 Evenings.

00:02:51.000 They do them in the evenings.

00:02:52.000 Evenings.

00:02:53.000 It's still 95 degrees in Arizona.

00:02:55.000 It's a nice risk 98.

00:02:57.000 But here's the factoid for everybody that's listening.

00:03:01.000 Arizona has the longest rivalry game in the country.

00:03:05.000 The Territorial Cup between Arizona State and Arizona.

00:03:09.000 Look it up.

00:03:09.000 People don't believe it.

00:03:11.000 No way.

00:03:12.000 Oregon, Oregon State has to be look it up.

00:03:14.000 Territorial Cup is the longest recognized NCAA football ever played or longest.

00:03:22.000 And here come all the caveats.

00:03:23.000 Yale-Princeton.

00:03:23.000 The oldest.

00:03:25.000 1877.

00:03:26.000 No, it's the oldest.

00:03:27.000 It's the oldest.

00:03:28.000 Is it like the oldest that has the same thing?

00:03:30.000 How is it older than 1873?

00:03:32.000 Yale Princeton is pretty.

00:03:32.000 No way.

00:03:34.000 I mean, Yale-Princeton was 1873.

00:03:36.000 No, but the rivalry game.

00:03:37.000 I'm long older than that.

00:03:39.000 Yale-Princeton is a rivalry game.

00:03:41.000 They hate each other.

00:03:42.000 You have to look up the territorial.

00:03:43.000 Montana, Montana State, 1897.

00:03:46.000 That's pretty old.

00:03:46.000 We were before.

00:03:47.000 Illinois State, Eastern Illinois, 1990.

00:03:49.000 Arizona wasn't even a state back then.

00:03:50.000 It was before it.

00:03:51.000 That's why it's called the Terrorist.

00:03:52.000 It's not going to be in Arizona State because there wasn't a state.

00:03:54.000 That's why there's people living in the world.

00:03:56.000 I'm looking online and it says the duel in the desert is just 1899 and there's many rivalries that are older than 1899.

00:04:03.000 No, look up territory.

00:04:04.000 Look up.

00:04:05.000 Michigan Notre Dame, 1887.

00:04:07.000 Duke, North Carolina, 1888.

00:04:10.000 Guys, it's the oldest one that Tyler knows.

00:04:12.000 No, no, no, no.

00:04:14.000 Look, Google Territorial Cup.

00:04:16.000 Army-Navy game, 1890.

00:04:18.000 I feel like the Army-Navy game is pretty old.

00:04:22.000 And they're still going.

00:04:23.000 Territorial Cup.

00:04:24.000 The nation's oldest rivalry trophy.

00:04:26.000 Oh, oldest trophy.

00:04:30.000 You can't really have a cup without a trophy.

00:04:33.000 You could just spiritually have one.

00:04:34.000 That's it.

00:04:36.000 So, and that's, and that was territorial. 0.86

00:04:38.000 That's what's called a territorial cup.

00:04:39.000 Sounds like your territorial.

00:04:41.000 Arizona State was the normal school.

00:04:43.000 And that was it.

00:04:44.000 Okay.

00:04:45.000 All right.

00:04:46.000 I'm not saying it's good football.

00:04:47.000 I'm just saying it's the.

00:04:49.000 By the way, since it is a Thanksgiving Day episode, I wanted to flag that we have all something very important to be grateful for.

00:04:56.000 Remember Real Raw News, Charlie?

00:04:58.000 1912.

00:05:00.000 You remember Real Raw News, America's only trustworthy news source?

00:05:03.000 They have a breaking report today just before Thanksgiving.

00:05:06.000 Special forces have arrested Kamala Harris.

00:05:10.000 She has come back from my nation in Hawaii, but they nabbed her. 0.98

00:05:16.000 According to the story, there were moles inside of her Secret Service detail, and they couldn't get her in Hawaii.

00:05:23.000 I guess Hawaii is like the deep state safe zone where they control things, but they got her back to D.C., which is also a deep staff safe zone, but not as safe.

00:05:32.000 And so they managed to take her into custody.

00:05:35.000 She and Doug Amhoff will be sent to Gitmo to stand trial for treason.

00:05:40.000 I'm glad Real Raw News was able to get Thanksgiving.

00:05:44.000 Happy Thanksgiving.

00:05:46.000 We got him.

00:05:47.000 I was worried that she might be out there making a mistake.

00:05:49.000 So Tyler's half right.

00:05:50.000 It's the oldest trophy.

00:05:52.000 It's the oldest trophy.

00:05:56.000 That is legit.

00:05:57.000 So it is the oldest trophy.

00:05:59.000 I mean, it's a territorial cup.

00:06:00.000 It's pretty impressive.

00:06:01.000 It doesn't matter as a trophy.

00:06:03.000 It sounds like it's a cup.

00:06:04.000 Nothing's older.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, yeah, no, he's right.

00:06:05.000 The territorial cup was created 125 years ago at his 1899 championship.

00:06:10.000 It's the oldest rivalry trophy in college football.

00:06:12.000 But what was the school even called before?

00:06:15.000 I don't know.

00:06:16.000 ALC was called the Normal School.

00:06:19.000 It was called the Normal School.

00:06:21.000 It was literally called Tempe Normal.

00:06:22.000 Tempe Normal in Arizona.

00:06:25.000 It was a teacher on a state teacher.

00:06:25.000 Huh.

00:06:28.000 The Territorial Cup is so old that it literally is like a cup.

00:06:32.000 It's a teacher's college, too.

00:06:33.000 It looks like a vase that you're in.

00:06:34.000 I'm actually impressed.

00:06:36.000 I thought no one lived in Arizona until like 1930.

00:06:39.000 No, my ancestors were there.

00:06:41.000 It was literally just two football teams.

00:06:44.000 Prior to 1912, it was just two football teams.

00:06:48.000 Arizona's population that you had to replace someone on the team.

00:06:52.000 Arizona's population in 1890 was 88,000 people.

00:06:58.000 When did your family moved here?

00:07:00.000 We chased twice as many, more than twice as many people.

00:07:02.000 65% of them were related to its owners.

00:07:04.000 I'm a seventh generation Arizona.

00:07:06.000 When did the old Boyer show up here?

00:07:09.000 It was Lambs and those people.

00:07:09.000 It wasn't Boyer.

00:07:13.000 But it was the 1860s.

00:07:16.000 In 1860, the population of Arizona was 6,482 people.

00:07:22.000 That is OG.

00:07:24.000 Second cousins with Sheriff Lamb.

00:07:25.000 Yep.

00:07:26.000 Man.

00:07:27.000 Now there's 6,000.

00:07:29.000 There's probably more than that within like a couple blocks of here.

00:07:34.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:07:35.000 Okay, guys.

00:07:36.000 We have to talk about Thanksgiving.

00:07:39.000 Is it okay to eat steak on Thanksgiving?

00:07:42.000 I really worry.

00:07:43.000 Not if it's the only thing you eat on there.

00:07:45.000 No.

00:07:46.000 No.

00:07:46.000 That's incorrect.

00:07:47.000 Incorrect.

00:07:48.000 Not allowed.

00:07:48.000 No.

00:07:49.000 No, you can have...

00:07:50.000 Tyler and I were discussing this.

00:07:52.000 You're saying not at all?

00:07:53.000 Not at all.

00:07:54.000 Can have, you must have turkey.

00:07:56.000 It is required to have turkey.

00:07:59.000 You may have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey, but like it should be any meat you have should be from like a central meat dispensing entity.

00:08:11.000 You cannot have individualized servings of meat.

00:08:16.000 That is my position on the steak.

00:08:17.000 This is not from a central meat dispensary.

00:08:19.000 No, like you don't, you don't make a giant, you don't make like a 50-pound steak and then take like a piece of it and like pass the giant super steak around.

00:08:28.000 Like that's what you do with ham or turkey.

00:08:30.000 Like you make the whole turkey or you make the whole ham and then you cut a little bit of it.

00:08:35.000 But you don't do that with steak.

00:08:36.000 No, but that's what I'm saying.

00:08:37.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:08:38.000 You can have a separate serving of a plate of steak for people.

00:08:42.000 You just similar to the ham.

00:08:44.000 No, it's just wrong.

00:08:47.000 Because ham is like supplement to the turkey taste.

00:08:52.000 You have to have turkey and ham on your plate.

00:08:56.000 You don't need ham.

00:08:57.000 You don't want to be a bad camera.

00:08:58.000 You have to have turkey.

00:08:58.000 No, you don't need ham.

00:08:59.000 No, no.

00:09:00.000 I'm a turkey purist.

00:09:01.000 But some people think that they can start to get really...

00:09:04.000 Now, Christmas is a completely different ballgame.

00:09:06.000 There are no rules with Christmas.

00:09:06.000 Totally.

00:09:08.000 Ham is usually center, but steak is acceptable.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, but no, but still, Christmas is a whole Thanksgiving.

00:09:14.000 It is un-American not to have either turkey, some sort of dressing, cranberries, but here's the thing about the cranberry thing.

00:09:23.000 If you want to be an ultra-traditionalist, it must be straight out of the can taken vertically with no adjustments.

00:09:30.000 And now if you want to have this, wait, this is the same thing.

00:09:32.000 Do you want to have the cranberry?

00:09:33.000 No, no, no.

00:09:34.000 No, And if you want to have cranberry with adjustments, that could be supplementary.

00:09:34.000 Hold on.

00:09:41.000 But however, it must be out of the can, and you just take it vertically and it just jiggles.

00:09:45.000 Walk me through your stuffing.

00:09:47.000 The stuffing is very interesting.

00:09:48.000 Okay.

00:09:49.000 Now, here's the big question.

00:09:50.000 Does the stuffing go in the turkey or is it prepared outside of the turkey?

00:09:50.000 Yes.

00:09:54.000 Is that stuffing versus dressing and then put it in, cook it with the turkey?

00:09:58.000 Or some people will prepare it and then just put it in for like the final.

00:10:01.000 See, that's that's a final layer.

00:10:02.000 You got to go the full lantha.

00:10:06.000 So dressing has to be obviously cornbread.

00:10:11.000 Yes.

00:10:12.000 Some sort of celeries and carrots.

00:10:13.000 Sure.

00:10:14.000 Sausage.

00:10:14.000 Need your crunches.

00:10:15.000 A little crunch.

00:10:16.000 Mix that all together.

00:10:18.000 But you know what makes the stuffing really kicker?

00:10:21.000 The gravy.

00:10:22.000 Yes.

00:10:23.000 And so you need the gravy.

00:10:25.000 You have the stuffing.

00:10:26.000 You have the jiggling cranberry.

00:10:28.000 You got the turkey.

00:10:30.000 And that's all that's accepted.

00:10:32.000 And then also, maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes.

00:10:34.000 Green bean casserole.

00:10:35.000 No, no, no.

00:10:35.000 How do you make the current?

00:10:36.000 See, now we're getting to the issue with green bean casserole.

00:10:42.000 Green beat's not allowed.

00:10:42.000 It's not allowed.

00:10:43.000 You're getting too cute.

00:10:44.000 Green bean casserole with a total staple.

00:10:44.000 Oh, green bean casserole.

00:10:48.000 With the little crunchy things on top, never double.

00:10:51.000 Fried onions.

00:10:53.000 No, no, no.

00:10:54.000 I like the long, uninterrupted, unblemished green beans.

00:10:58.000 With butter.

00:10:59.000 With butter.

00:11:00.000 Yeah, that's good, though.

00:11:01.000 No, no casserole.

00:11:01.000 Those are good stuff.

00:11:03.000 I never said casserole.

00:11:04.000 The casserole is.

00:11:05.000 We are saying casserole is a staple.

00:11:07.000 It's an absolute Thanksgiving diet.

00:11:09.000 I don't think it's a staple.

00:11:10.000 100%.

00:11:11.000 And then, let me think what else.

00:11:13.000 Okay, yes.

00:11:14.000 Then the sweet potatoes.

00:11:15.000 Sure.

00:11:15.000 But none of this marshmallow stuff.

00:11:17.000 You see, this is New Age, and it's a mistake.

00:11:19.000 We're all of a sudden.

00:11:20.000 It's a full trad.

00:11:21.000 No, no, it's a mixture of, it's like 1950s Thanksgiving.

00:11:25.000 It's like, that's why it's like the gel.

00:11:25.000 Right.

00:11:27.000 You know, it's saying no marshmallows.

00:11:28.000 No, no, no, marshmallows.

00:11:29.000 The marshmallow thing is a disgrace.

00:11:31.000 Well, Charlie, hold on a second, though, because there is one thing.

00:11:35.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:11:36.000 There is one thing, one dish that we know for a fact was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:11:42.000 You know where I'm going with this.

00:11:43.000 Smallpox?

00:11:44.000 No, no, no, Charlie.

00:11:46.000 Not what we served.

00:11:47.000 What was served to us?

00:11:48.000 Got it.

00:11:49.000 Corn.

00:11:50.000 Oh, see, no, no, no.

00:11:52.000 Corn was served at the original.

00:11:54.000 The only corn that is acceptable is cornbread.

00:11:56.000 I will say.

00:11:57.000 You have to bend the knee to the corn god, and cornbread has to be either the dressing, the stuffing stuff.

00:12:01.000 Do you agree, Tyler?

00:12:02.000 Well, long time thoughts.

00:12:07.000 Blake radicalized me as the corn god.

00:12:08.000 He's anti-cornite.

00:12:10.000 I think corn has no redemptive value unless it is for Thanksgiving, because then it is a sacrament to Squanto. 0.95

00:12:17.000 No, no, corn is good in the summertime.

00:12:19.000 We eat the corn on Thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry corn god has not destroyed us.

00:12:25.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:12:26.000 No, corn on the cup is summer.

00:12:28.000 This is exactly.

00:12:29.000 I forgot his name.

00:12:30.000 I forgot the corn god's name in the name.

00:12:31.000 No, no, we're not talking about corn on the cub.

00:12:33.000 We're talking about corn elements, cornbread, for example.

00:12:36.000 Cornbread.

00:12:37.000 Even Charlie Kirk.

00:12:42.000 This is huge.

00:12:42.000 No, this is what Thanksgiving is.

00:12:43.000 This is big.

00:12:44.000 Let's be very clear.

00:12:45.000 Thanksgiving is not about what you want to do.

00:12:48.000 It is what your ancestors did.

00:12:52.000 It doesn't matter if you don't want the cranberry.

00:12:54.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:12:55.000 It's not about.

00:12:56.000 If you don't like cranberries, you don't like turkey, suck it up.

00:12:56.000 I don't care about it.

00:12:59.000 It's Thanksgiving.

00:13:00.000 There is no.

00:13:02.000 This modernity, like, I'm going to put like sticks.

00:13:04.000 Tanya doesn't, Tanya will not eat turkey.

00:13:06.000 It doesn't matter.

00:13:06.000 She won't eat it.

00:13:07.000 She'll make it.

00:13:08.000 She won't eat it.

00:13:08.000 Figure it out.

00:13:09.000 She won't eat it.

00:13:09.000 So here in Arizona, I don't know what to tell you.

00:13:11.000 I completely agree with Charlie.

00:13:13.000 I think the canned cranberry is a must on the table.

00:13:18.000 However, you have to have to have a second.

00:13:22.000 In Arizona, we have jalapeno cranberries.

00:13:26.000 Incredible.

00:13:26.000 If you haven't had it, now you're regionalizing this too much.

00:13:29.000 No, it's good.

00:13:31.000 No, It adds a little spice.

00:13:33.000 It's just a little bit.

00:13:34.000 It's like when I went to the Grand Canyon last summer and I discovered that I guess they just sell like prickly pear everything at every Arizona.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:43.000 That's that's anywhere chicken is great, really.

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00:14:56.000 So I have a question for everybody, though.

00:14:59.000 And this is getting deep into the weeds.

00:15:01.000 So we talked about stuffing or dressing.

00:15:04.000 Moist stuffing or dry stuffing?

00:15:08.000 It's got to be dry, but the gravy makes it moist.

00:15:10.000 If you make it too moist, you can always make it more.

00:15:14.000 Before the gravy.

00:15:15.000 It has to be on the spectrum of tilt moist, but not too much, because if it's too dry, then it's just, it's too brittle.

00:15:24.000 And brittle, there's nothing worse than brittle dressing.

00:15:27.000 So scoopable.

00:15:29.000 I'm noticing that you call it dressing.

00:15:31.000 It should be stuffing.

00:15:32.000 However, I've been corrected many times.

00:15:34.000 I've always called it stuffing, even though it's not technically stuffing unless it's within the turkey.

00:15:38.000 Yes.

00:15:39.000 Dressings outside the turkey stuffing's inside.

00:15:41.000 No, it's not.

00:15:42.000 No, I grew up calling it stuffing, even though we never put it in the turkey.

00:15:46.000 No, but it's the, I mean, I get that, but the type of food would be called still stuffing.

00:15:50.000 Dressing is like for salads.

00:15:52.000 No.

00:15:52.000 No, no, no.

00:15:53.000 Dressing is outside.

00:15:55.000 It's cooked in the middle.

00:15:56.000 I don't know if it's stuff.

00:15:57.000 No, I reject that completely.

00:15:59.000 For me, stuffing is like a type of food, and it should be used to stuff in it, but it is still stuffing, even if it's not doing the stuff.

00:16:06.000 Dressing is outside.

00:16:08.000 We don't use the name properly, but we still call it that because it used to be outside of Thanksgiving at this point.

00:16:13.000 This is great.

00:16:14.000 So we're going to let people know we're pre-taping this.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, ahead.

00:16:18.000 We are.

00:16:19.000 Today is Tuesday.

00:16:20.000 They're in law.

00:16:22.000 We blew off Thanksgiving.

00:16:23.000 We're supposed to be eating right now.

00:16:25.000 Yeah.

00:16:26.000 Yeah.

00:16:27.000 So now let's now go to the more fundamental question.

00:16:30.000 Okay.

00:16:31.000 Dessert.

00:16:33.000 Okay.

00:16:34.000 Because that really is what Deanita said.

00:16:36.000 Well, for me, I mean, if I have, I have, all right, go ahead.

00:16:39.000 No, no, you go.

00:16:39.000 No, this is.

00:16:40.000 I have, I have at times, and my mom knows this, I have left the house, gone to the store, and purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and brought it home and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available.

00:16:54.000 It is required.

00:16:56.000 Oh, I completely agree.

00:16:57.000 It is like 100% required.

00:16:59.000 The first commandment of Thanksgiving is thou shalt have pumpkin pie with whipped cream.

00:17:05.000 With whipped cream.

00:17:06.000 It is a non-negotiable.

00:17:07.000 If it's not there, like I got up, I got in my car.

00:17:10.000 I was like, I'm just going to go.

00:17:11.000 I'm not going to do it.

00:17:12.000 Now, Ryan asks a really good question: Is Thanksgiving meal a lunch or a dinner?

00:17:16.000 The answer is both.

00:17:17.000 Around 3:30 to 4 p.m.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, that is the sweet spot.

00:17:21.000 Right as the sun is going down in Chicago, boom, you sit down, right?

00:17:25.000 That is way too late.

00:17:25.000 Thanksgiving.

00:17:27.000 It is itself its own meal.

00:17:28.000 No, no, no.

00:17:29.000 That's way too late.

00:17:31.000 I would say NEF family tradition is maybe 1 to 1:30 p.m.

00:17:31.000 You do it.

00:17:37.000 It's so early.

00:17:39.000 No, no, no.

00:17:40.000 Halftime of the second football game.

00:17:43.000 When are you going to do that?

00:17:43.000 Half-time of the second football game?

00:17:44.000 Like five?

00:17:46.000 No, you guys know.

00:17:48.000 The first football game is the Lions.

00:17:50.000 The Cowboys are always second.

00:17:52.000 We have a tradition in our house.

00:17:53.000 Halftime of Cowboys, we get seated because we're cheering that the Cowboys will lose.

00:17:58.000 Well, that's good, but no, that's just way too we shared this tradition as well.

00:17:58.000 Yes.

00:18:06.000 Like, oh, TV's off during the meal.

00:18:08.000 No, the TV's another meal.

00:18:09.000 No, he's off.

00:18:10.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 Like, I greatly dislike the TV sanctification of Thanksgiving.

00:18:17.000 Like, I don't know.

00:18:18.000 I would watch, I would consider it, like, if the Packers are on, I would watch the Packers, but I do not consider it essential to watch.

00:18:27.000 Now there's three games on Thanksgiving.

00:18:28.000 Well, we usually have like.

00:18:30.000 There has been a desecration.

00:18:30.000 No, this is true.

00:18:32.000 It used to be only two games, and it was on Fox.

00:18:35.000 It would be the Lions, who used to be bad, and now they're good.

00:18:38.000 And actually, who do they play this week?

00:18:40.000 Let me see.

00:18:40.000 I bet it's actually pretty good lineup.

00:18:42.000 And then it was the Cowboys, but now NBC got greedy because it was Fox had their game, CBS had their game, and then NBC got greedy and they snuck in their own.

00:18:52.000 So is that this week?

00:18:53.000 No.

00:18:53.000 Okay, let me see here.

00:18:54.000 What do we got?

00:18:54.000 We got a new week of football.

00:18:56.000 Okay, there's three games.

00:18:58.000 Oh, Blake, you're in luck.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:00.000 I know.

00:19:00.000 I'll see it.

00:19:01.000 It's the evening game.

00:19:01.000 The Dolphins are visiting Lambo.

00:19:04.000 Okay, I'm going to be watching that.

00:19:05.000 Oh, and Chicago plays on Thanksgiving.

00:19:08.000 Oh, they're going to get annihilated. 0.98

00:19:10.000 They're going to die at Detroit. 0.99

00:19:13.000 It's going to be Detroit.

00:19:15.000 By the way, you could tell who's having a better season.

00:19:17.000 Tickets start at Ford Field for $181.

00:19:20.000 Tickets start at Jerry Stademan, $28.

00:19:23.000 Yeah, my son asked me the other day because he saw when we went to the Eagles game and he was like all jealous that we went.

00:19:30.000 And so he was like, oh, daddy, get me some Eagles tickets.

00:19:32.000 We'll go.

00:19:32.000 And so we looked up the ones for Thanksgiving weekend and I was like, I got to sell a lot more pillows.

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:37.000 Like Eagles tickets right now are, it was $500 was like the highest nose graph.

00:19:43.000 $3.11 is where they start out.

00:19:44.000 Insane.

00:19:45.000 Yeah, this week.

00:19:46.000 You're seeing what, $3.11?

00:19:47.000 And that's in Baltimore.

00:19:48.000 But Baltimore's so close, you're basically light, right?

00:19:51.000 Yeah, you're pretty much in, it's like 90 minutes, you know, the way I drive, it's 90 minutes.

00:19:55.000 Okay, so now that we have developed some.

00:19:58.000 By the way, by the way, I don't want to throw my mom under the bus because every single year, and I know she's going to watch this, every single year post that, there's like a selection of pumpkin pies that is always available.

00:20:08.000 The way it must be.

00:20:09.000 By the way, do you think that pecan pie can also make an appearance?

00:20:12.000 Of course, other pies can be there, but pumpkin is the only thing that's going to be.

00:20:16.000 The pecan pie, I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie.

00:20:19.000 However, I must have a slice of pumpkin pie.

00:20:21.000 Wait, were you always like that, though?

00:20:23.000 When you were little.

00:20:24.000 My mom makes a killer pecan pie.

00:20:27.000 Okay.

00:20:27.000 Like, destroys the world.

00:20:29.000 Okay.

00:20:30.000 What about when I was younger?

00:20:32.000 I was always pumpkin, but then pecan pie.

00:20:35.000 Now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie, and that's where you just surrender.

00:20:39.000 You're just done at that point.

00:20:41.000 So you throw, you throw it, because guys, you know, folks who don't know, Charlie, you're usually pretty strict with your diet.

00:20:46.000 You're usually strict.

00:20:47.000 It's like, I mean, you're usually like.

00:20:48.000 No, no, no, but Thanksgiving's different.

00:20:50.000 Thanksgiving is all in, and it is a holy day.

00:20:54.000 By the way, I think Thanksgiving is one of America's greatest traditions.

00:20:57.000 It is.

00:20:57.000 Because it's a day just to give thanks.

00:20:59.000 I think it's uniquely awesome.

00:21:01.000 Talk about that for a little bit because there's, you know, a lot of people say, well, it's, you know, it's just about the, you know, it's the Indians, it's the Pilgrims.

00:21:08.000 Well, everything is what you make of it.

00:21:09.000 Who cares, right?

00:21:10.000 Who cares?

00:21:11.000 There's no God involved.

00:21:12.000 Why do you?

00:21:12.000 Well, no, first of all, the Pilgrims were definitely giving thanks to God.

00:21:15.000 Let's do it.

00:21:16.000 They were not giving thanks to Brahmin. 0.99

00:21:18.000 But they were giving thanks to the Almighty God.

00:21:20.000 And but yeah, secondly, I just think it's amazing, especially during this season where we have such abundance and we won the election, that there's a day where you just stop and you say thank you, which then, of course, acknowledges you're saying thank you to a higher power.

00:21:32.000 And I don't know of another nation or another country that has a day of gratitude.

00:21:37.000 I think I actually said this once, and I guess there was like some random African country that has it, and that's fine. 0.97

00:21:42.000 I got like in trouble for saying this last year.

00:21:44.000 Yeah, okay, so fine.

00:21:45.000 I guess Senegal has a day like that.

00:21:47.000 I'll look it up.

00:21:48.000 However, great job, Senegal. 1.00

00:21:49.000 Or whatever.

00:21:50.000 But following in some good footsteps.

00:21:52.000 But a day of gratitude, I subscribe to the Prager.

00:21:56.000 Hopefully he's doing better.

00:21:57.000 He's fighting like crazy right now.

00:21:59.000 Belief, he's really struggling that happiness is impossible if you are not grateful.

00:22:03.000 And I believe that.

00:22:04.000 I do not think you can have joy.

00:22:05.000 I do not think you can be content if you're not grateful.

00:22:08.000 And I think it's a beautiful thing as a nation.

00:22:09.000 We have a day to say thank you.

00:22:10.000 We have to shout out to the nation who always gave us the story of Thanksgiving.

00:22:16.000 Real quick, notice, real quick, shout out to the OG who always told us the true story of Thanksgiving, Rush Limbaugh.

00:22:22.000 Oh, man, he was an OG on that.

00:22:24.000 He just did it every year.

00:22:25.000 I've still got, I've got a recording of it somewhere and we used to play it.

00:22:30.000 I got to re-listen.

00:22:31.000 It's so good.

00:22:32.000 Send it to me tonight.

00:22:33.000 I got to retry to recreate it to me.

00:22:35.000 I did something on the show last year where I sort of like, I didn't try to do it like Rush did it, but I told the story.

00:22:42.000 And people just have to keep telling that story over and over.

00:22:45.000 They tried socialism.

00:22:46.000 It failed.

00:22:47.000 Then they tried giving people ownership of their various plots of land.

00:22:52.000 And then they had an overabundance of their harvest.

00:22:57.000 And so they gave thanks to God.

00:23:01.000 What a concept.

00:23:02.000 What an incredible concept. 1.00

00:23:04.000 But instead, now it's all like, oh, the Pilgrims were dying and the Indians had to come and they saved the Pilgrims because they were stupid Europeans, didn't know anything. 0.98

00:23:12.000 Even though Squanto had actually lived in Europe, even he had been in London more recently than the Pilgrims had. 0.98

00:23:19.000 So he spoke English so well.

00:23:21.000 But of course, you know, facts are Blake.

00:23:23.000 You were saying something.

00:23:24.000 Well, so first of all, I was saying we should make fun of Canada for having their knockoff Thanksgiving that is just one month before ours.

00:23:31.000 I think we should always seize every opportunity to bully Canada because it's fun.

00:23:38.000 But also, even like the full story of Thanksgiving, because evil liberals always want to dunk on it.

00:23:44.000 It's even more beautiful than just the Pilgrims doing it when they settled here. 0.67

00:23:48.000 Like the very first annual Thanksgiving national holiday, fourth Thursday in November, like clockwork.

00:23:56.000 That was started by Abraham Lincoln in 1863.

00:24:00.000 Middle of the Civil War, the peak of the Civil War.

00:24:02.000 I think that's probably the bloodiest year of the Civil War.

00:24:05.000 And he says, yes, in the middle of this, we're going to have a celebration of national Thanksgiving.

00:24:11.000 And like that.

00:24:12.000 was what set it as a national holiday.

00:24:14.000 George Washington declared a day of Thanksgiving.

00:24:17.000 It's truly, you know, it's a great thing because it is possibly the one great national tradition that was created in America that we have had for the entire history of America that is just totally our own thing.

00:24:33.000 And then us being America, we have exported it to the rest of the world in various ways. 0.54

00:24:38.000 Someone was very shocked to learn.

00:24:40.000 I was talking to a foreigner who was like, wasn't Black Friday this week?

00:24:44.000 No.

00:24:44.000 No, Black Friday is this week.

00:24:46.000 And it's kind of terrible.

00:24:50.000 I used to be a Black Friday person, but now I'm done.

00:24:54.000 It's awful.

00:24:55.000 It's just so awful.

00:24:56.000 And it's not even Black Friday anymore because Black Friday, there's like, well, Charlie, given everything that you just said about the importance of Thanksgiving, what do you think about the people who leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go and start shopping?

00:25:08.000 First of all, first of all, I totally, when I grew up, it was actually Black Friday.

00:25:14.000 Now it's like Black Thursday evening.

00:25:16.000 Right.

00:25:16.000 And it's not like you start lining up.

00:25:18.000 Like the sales begin.

00:25:20.000 It's actually interesting for younger listeners that don't know.

00:25:23.000 After so many people got trampled in the Walmart raids because people would line up, they keep the stores open.

00:25:29.000 Right.

00:25:30.000 They don't close them and reopen them.

00:25:32.000 Because it used to be that Walmart would close and then all the deals and the sales would be set and then people would get trampled so much.

00:25:39.000 I think someone almost died and they got hospitalized and there's people who are in the world.

00:25:42.000 This is the plot of that.

00:25:43.000 This is the plot of that.

00:25:44.000 People die.

00:25:44.000 Is that right?

00:25:45.000 I didn't know that.

00:25:45.000 Yeah, people died.

00:25:46.000 People got that.

00:25:49.000 I didn't know they died, though.

00:25:50.000 There's that Thanksgiving horror movie.

00:25:52.000 This is actually the plot where people get killed and then someone's getting revenge on the people who started the stampede.

00:25:59.000 So I had no problem with like you have a really, really good Thanksgiving and then you want to get good deals on stuff.

00:26:06.000 And I think that was fine.

00:26:07.000 It was like a good kickoff to the Christmas season.

00:26:10.000 And it used to be, when I grew up, there was a grittiness to Black Friday.

00:26:15.000 There was like a took, it took real spirit.

00:26:18.000 So you have to understand, like, I grew up in Chicago.

00:26:21.000 It would always be like sub 20 degrees.

00:26:23.000 And if you wanted to get a Black Friday deal, you had to earn it.

00:26:26.000 So you had to like leave with your family at like 10 p.m. after all that turkey's full.

00:26:31.000 And you like stood in line at Target from the open their doors at 12.01.

00:26:34.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 Right.

00:26:35.000 And you would like shop all night and you would like get 7-Eleven coffee and get home by like 5 a.m.

00:26:42.000 And you felt like I earned this deal.

00:26:45.000 And it was like, it was like a sense of accomplishment.

00:26:47.000 And you had to have, there was like a limit to what you could get.

00:26:51.000 Of course.

00:26:52.000 No, and it was very narrow.

00:26:53.000 And also one specific deal.

00:26:55.000 We would go through catalogs and go through what was on sale.

00:26:59.000 This was all before internet.

00:27:00.000 I want to throw it to Blake in a second.

00:27:02.000 But there was...

00:27:03.000 There was a divide and conquer strategy of what stores are we going to hit?

00:27:03.000 The internet ruined it.

00:27:08.000 Are we going to go to Best Buy?

00:27:09.000 Are we going to go to Home Depot?

00:27:11.000 Because like, and you're shopping for other people.

00:27:13.000 And there was like a real like conquest like chess game where it's like, oh, wow, Best Buy opens at 11.30 and Walmart's at midnight.

00:27:22.000 My strategy would always be like I would find the one store that was like within a 45-minute drive of it in like a non-populated area.

00:27:30.000 And it was so much fun to think about or like a Staples because nobody thinks that Staples would have stuff, but they do have computers and different items.

00:27:38.000 So like what's the thing that people aren't going to think about?

00:27:41.000 And that's where I'm going to go.

00:27:42.000 Now you just wait for Cyber Monday and click a couple buttons.

00:27:45.000 And so all the adventure of it, and you don't earn it anymore.

00:27:48.000 It used to be you'd get home at 3:30 in the morning.

00:27:50.000 You're like, I got a good deal on big screen TV.

00:27:53.000 It was a teenage rite of passage in suburban Chicago.

00:27:57.000 Blake, your thoughts?

00:27:58.000 Yeah, it was really, I can still think of like individual things I went out of my way to get on Black Friday.

00:28:04.000 I think I still have a PlayStation 3 that I got in 2011.

00:28:08.000 I think I can remember the exact deal.

00:28:09.000 It was a PS Slim, $250.

00:28:12.000 It came with Little Big Planet and like some crummy ratchet and clank game.

00:28:16.000 Who cares?

00:28:16.000 But like, that was the best deal you could get for, I think, like two years after that point.

00:28:21.000 But what ended up killing it was, as you said, you know, you were, you'd go for the timing.

00:28:26.000 It used to be, okay, it was on Black Friday normal hours.

00:28:28.000 Then they would open it at like 6 a.m. in the morning and people would show up before.

00:28:33.000 Then someone got ahead and made it, oh, let's open exactly at midnight.

00:28:36.000 And then what finally killed it, I think, the rise of the internet was a factor.

00:28:41.000 But another thing that killed it was companies decided to get so greedy and they just said, we're doing Black Friday on Thanksgiving.

00:28:48.000 And they would just be open on Thanksgiving with those deals.

00:28:50.000 And I think to America's credit, there was popular backlash to this where they're saying, wait, you're forcing employees to skip Thanksgiving to come in and work on Thanksgiving.

00:29:03.000 Though I must hedge, I have to be personally grateful for the fact that some stores are open on Thanksgiving, some of them, because I visited a friend.

00:29:13.000 This is about 10 years ago.

00:29:14.000 I went down to a friend in Tennessee for Thanksgiving and I took a mega bus down.

00:29:20.000 You know, poor.

00:29:21.000 We have to travel by bus.

00:29:22.000 And I took a mega bus down and I had a bag under it.

00:29:26.000 And I had to get off in Chattanooga, which was the final destination was Atlanta.

00:29:30.000 And they get out and they're like, okay, where's your bag?

00:29:32.000 I'm like, oh, it's under the thing.

00:29:33.000 And they open it and they feel around.

00:29:35.000 They're like, ah, yeah, we can't find it.

00:29:37.000 We have a schedule to do.

00:29:38.000 We have to go.

00:29:39.000 And they just drove away with my bag, with all of my changes of clothes.

00:29:44.000 And I arrived late Wednesday night.

00:29:47.000 So I had to go to a Walmart, which thanks to American capitalism was open on Thanksgiving.

00:29:53.000 And I had to buy an entire set of clothes for the whole weekend.

00:29:56.000 So I had that perspective.

00:29:58.000 I actually, one of my first jobs was in high school.

00:30:01.000 I took the seasonal job at Target.

00:30:05.000 And my first day, like first real day, was Thanksgiving or Black Friday.

00:30:11.000 So I had to wake up after Thanksgiving when I was like a sophomore in high school at like literally 4 a.m.

00:30:18.000 I had to be at Target at 4.30, help stock everything.

00:30:22.000 This was still the days that they still opened the doors like Charlie was talking about before they just like leave it open or open like super early.

00:30:30.000 And there would be like, I get there at like 4 o'clock and there would be a line wrapped around the building that people waited to get in.

00:30:36.000 And we had to stock everything.

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00:31:42.000 So here's a crazy story.

00:31:44.000 So you guys, there's a myth that Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving.

00:31:52.000 And you know why that's a myth?

00:31:55.000 Because the real truth is, the real truth is that Thanksgiving is the day before Black Friday.

00:32:03.000 And that is because...

00:32:05.000 Let me finish the story.

00:32:06.000 This is because I am not making it up.

00:32:08.000 The current date of Thanksgiving is because of like an evil plot by FDR.

00:32:15.000 No, I'm not making this up.

00:32:16.000 So Lincoln's proclamation of Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving is on the last Thursday of the month.

00:32:22.000 Yes.

00:32:22.000 It is on the last Thursday.

00:32:23.000 Right.

00:32:24.000 It is not on the last Thursday.

00:32:26.000 It is currently on the fourth Thursday of the month.

00:32:29.000 That is what the federal law is.

00:32:31.000 So there are sometimes five.

00:32:32.000 Which requires a Friday.

00:32:33.000 So there are sometimes five Thursdays in November, and then it would be on the fourth.

00:32:38.000 It used to be on the fifth.

00:32:40.000 And then during the Great Depression, I believe in 1939, FDR got in his head, if there's a longer, like if there's a longer time between Thanksgiving and Christmas, there will be a longer Christmas shopping season.

00:32:54.000 And so people will shop more, and this will stimulate the economy.

00:32:59.000 And so he intervened and he moved Thanksgiving to be a week earlier.

00:33:04.000 And this became a partisan political issue.

00:33:07.000 And so for a few years, Republican states said, we're not doing this and we're refusing to go along with it.

00:33:13.000 So you had a Democrat Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday and you had a Republican Thanksgiving on the fifth one.

00:33:21.000 And I think Texas, because they were a Democrat state, but had a lot of like conservative Democrats who didn't like FDR, they called the truth and they just had, they said, they're both holidays and they had two Thanksgivings.

00:33:34.000 And then sadly, Congress submitted and now it's just on the fourth Thursday and we lost that culture war battle.

00:33:41.000 But what you were saying though, what you were saying though, there's a deeper and producer Foz talks about this all the time.

00:33:47.000 His birthday was this week, by the way.

00:33:48.000 Shout out.

00:33:49.000 He calls it micro wins, micro Ws.

00:33:52.000 And how, so Charlie, you'd appreciate this, is that like in your teenage years and working retail, you know, used to be part of this too, but in your teenage years, there used to be a variety of things that you would do as a rite of passage that have all been pretty much completely destroyed because of new technology.

00:34:09.000 One of those, of course, was waiting in line like this.

00:34:12.000 Another one of those, you know, having those retail jobs again with no phone to like just, you know, constantly be there getting you through it.

00:34:19.000 It's monotony going through it.

00:34:21.000 One of the other ones, we, I don't know how I got into this the other day on Twitter was like, it's not even Thanksgiving related, but it was like when you used to have to call someone's house.

00:34:29.000 And if you wanted to, if you wanted to call a girl, you had to call her house and you had to get through mom or potentially dad.

00:34:37.000 And so it's like the elimination of all those things in society has now created men or adults who don't actually go through any meaningful rite of passage.

00:34:50.000 No, I mean, I totally agree with that.

00:34:51.000 I mean, some of these other rites of passage were like elementary things, such as be home before dark.

00:34:58.000 Like that was like a very simple thing, right?

00:35:01.000 I mean, other rites of passage were that you need to memorize, like you say, the home phone numbers of at least five people that you're doing.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, memorizing phone numbers.

00:35:09.000 Right.

00:35:10.000 I don't think anybody does that anymore.

00:35:11.000 Like anybody.

00:35:12.000 I know Tanya's.

00:35:13.000 I know my parents.

00:35:15.000 I know all the phone numbers from when I grew up.

00:35:17.000 I know a bunch of when I grew up.

00:35:18.000 Yeah.

00:35:18.000 Like I know a bunch of my buddies.

00:35:20.000 But like my brother got a cell phone later.

00:35:22.000 I don't know.

00:35:23.000 I also think it was really important that when I used to call somebody's house, I had to speak to an adult.

00:35:29.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:35:30.000 I think that was think about that.

00:35:32.000 Think about it.

00:35:33.000 I think it's a very underappreciated.

00:35:35.000 There was no texting.

00:35:36.000 It didn't exist.

00:35:36.000 No.

00:35:37.000 When I was in sixth grade, AOL Instant Messenger was just starting.

00:35:41.000 Okay.

00:35:42.000 And that was a thing.

00:35:43.000 But it had to be on a publicly available computer in my house.

00:35:48.000 And it wasn't like you couldn't bring it with you at all times.

00:35:50.000 It was like, there was a very, you know, like, so it was this, like, logging on and logging off was a thing.

00:35:56.000 Oh, it was totally a thing.

00:35:57.000 I had the away message.

00:35:58.000 You had an away message.

00:35:58.000 Like, yeah.

00:35:59.000 And like, you would come home to see if you got any messages. 0.93

00:36:03.000 And I actually, again, I don't even know if that was a healthier version of this crap that we have right now. 0.95

00:36:07.000 Much healthier. 0.92

00:36:08.000 And so I loved AOL Instant Messenger for the record.

00:36:11.000 I thought it was really fun.

00:36:12.000 And it was actually a really, really good service.

00:36:15.000 It was really, I mean, I really liked it.

00:36:17.000 A lot of our precursor to a lot of the social norms on texting came from AOL Instant Messenger.

00:36:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:24.000 That's right.

00:36:25.000 LOL comes from that.

00:36:27.000 LOL B-RB.

00:36:28.000 LOL.

00:36:28.000 T-T-Y-L.

00:36:29.000 LOL absolutely comes from AOL Instant Messenger.

00:36:32.000 AOL still, by the way, there are still millions of people getting shut down Instant Messenger.

00:36:38.000 Instant Messenger has been dead.

00:36:39.000 Not only is Instant Messenger dead.

00:36:40.000 Is that right?

00:36:42.000 AIM is done.

00:36:43.000 AIM is dead.

00:36:44.000 Charlie, it's even older than that because I was on Instant Messenger because Jack and I are a little bit older than you.

00:36:50.000 I was on Instant Messenger.

00:36:52.000 No, but I'm saying again.

00:36:53.000 I would just like to say community.

00:36:54.000 It would start at a group.

00:36:55.000 Tyler is way older than Charlie.

00:36:57.000 So Jack's older than me.

00:36:57.000 Way older.

00:37:00.000 Yeah.

00:37:01.000 Tyler actually is the first generation.

00:37:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:37:06.000 But I loved AOL and AOL.

00:37:09.000 What else is big?

00:37:11.000 Here's another rite of passage.

00:37:13.000 Okay.

00:37:15.000 Playing a video game so much that it overheats.

00:37:20.000 What was overheating?

00:37:21.000 That's like a real thing.

00:37:22.000 Or playing a game.

00:37:24.000 Jack knows what I'm talking about.

00:37:25.000 Especially computer games, though.

00:37:27.000 No, no, no, no.

00:37:28.000 If you play for too long and your computer wasn't that sophisticated or good, your computer whole hard drive would like start to overheat, right?

00:37:34.000 That's a real thing.

00:37:35.000 Or how about another one?

00:37:35.000 100%.

00:37:38.000 Playing on either like Age of Empires or Sims or like whatever it was and like it malfunctioning before you save or you can like log your progress.

00:37:48.000 Right?

00:37:49.000 Mom unplugging the Nintendo before, well, when you were on like level eight of Mario and there was no way to save or mom telling you to wait at all.

00:37:58.000 Mom telling you to pause the game when it's actually online and you're playing against other people.

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:04.000 I had numerous times beating it, defeating a level of Super Mario and then forgetting to save it and you shut it off and you go back.

00:38:13.000 You're like, ah, that's shameful.

00:38:16.000 It's just so funny the things we worried about back then were just like so insignificant.

00:38:20.000 I miss, I'll say this.

00:38:21.000 I don't know if any guys remember this one.

00:38:22.000 I miss New Music Tuesdays.

00:38:24.000 Does anyone else remember New Music 2?

00:38:26.000 So that was...

00:38:26.000 Albums would release on Tuesdays, right?

00:38:28.000 I think games still release on Tuesdays a lot.

00:38:31.000 They did at least when I was a kid, I thought.

00:38:32.000 Oh, thank God.

00:38:33.000 There's something.

00:38:34.000 But maybe that might have varied.

00:38:35.000 It was a group of music, and it was always Tuesdays that would come out.

00:38:40.000 So you used to have like these mini Black Friday type things where you'd go on.

00:38:43.000 I guess people still kind of do it for games where you would come out for new music or a new album was dropping.

00:38:49.000 So back when music actually was like good.

00:38:53.000 That being said, I did see Creed again this week.

00:38:56.000 I'm trying to think of other rites of passage.

00:38:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:59.000 Knowing the dial-up sound is definitely a rite of passage.

00:39:02.000 Like not having super fast internet all the time.

00:39:06.000 Just having to sit.

00:39:07.000 Remember waiting for websites to load?

00:39:09.000 Do you remember asking friends for rides?

00:39:12.000 Oh, origins.

00:39:14.000 Wait, wait, Charlie.

00:39:15.000 What about asking directions and having to know directions?

00:39:18.000 I'm still really good at directions, partially because you had to know where you were going.

00:39:22.000 Like this was before GPS.

00:39:23.000 How about this?

00:39:24.000 Printing out MapQuest directions.

00:39:24.000 How's it going?

00:39:26.000 Printing it out.

00:39:27.000 Well, see, I used to.

00:39:27.000 Is that not the best?

00:39:28.000 I used to be cheap, so I would just write it down.

00:39:30.000 Charlie, were you around all the time?

00:39:32.000 I was a big man.

00:39:32.000 Charlie, were you?

00:39:33.000 I would go to MapQuest and then I would write down the directions and then I'd just like bring my little note card with me.

00:39:38.000 What were you saying, Charlie?

00:39:39.000 Charlie, you might be too young.

00:39:40.000 I once had a journey where my parents made me actually narrate the turns to make on an actual physical map that we had purchased, like with the highways of America.

00:39:53.000 Oh, yeah, no, no, all the time.

00:39:54.000 I remember 100%, yes.

00:39:55.000 I remember I was living in New Jersey for two years when I was a junior high, and my mom printed them out on MapQuest and was going somewhere for my brother's football game and got so lost and turned around.

00:40:07.000 She like pulled over and hit a gas station crying because she didn't know where to go or how to go anywhere.

00:40:13.000 She was like completely lost, like in any place.

00:40:16.000 I had no idea.

00:40:18.000 It makes you think like actually.

00:40:19.000 Sorry, Ma for sharing that.

00:40:20.000 Is it a good thing or a bad thing we have the GPS?

00:40:22.000 I mean, in some ways, like we're probably more efficient.

00:40:26.000 When China comes after us, that's the first thing they're going for. 1.00

00:40:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:29.000 That's number one.

00:40:30.000 Day one.

00:40:31.000 It's that one and then like all of our online banking.

00:40:34.000 It's crazy. 0.89

00:40:34.000 We're just all screwed. 0.89

00:40:36.000 I don't know if you still have to do this, but I know in London in the UK, to become a cab driver, you used to have to, maybe you still do, but you had to pass this test called the knowledge.

00:40:47.000 And it was basically you had to memorize the location of like 27,000 different things in London.

00:40:55.000 And like people would like lose their minds attempting to pass this thing.

00:40:58.000 And obviously, if it's still around, it's obviously crazier.

00:41:02.000 It's more difficult to become a cab driver.

00:41:05.000 Passed the bar.

00:41:07.000 I feel like they've done brain scans of cab drivers that have, that have mastered the knowledge, and their hippoclamus, which is the actual part of memory, is bigger in their brain than the average person.

00:41:20.000 And so in order for that to be true, in order, and this is actually.

00:41:24.000 So that's self-selecting then.

00:41:25.000 No, no, no.

00:41:26.000 In order for that to be true, one of two things are true.

00:41:28.000 Either that these are people with disproportionately big hippoclampuses that are coming into the taxi business, or your brain can change.

00:41:36.000 Which is the most profound.

00:41:38.000 Giant hippoclamps.

00:41:40.000 No, but sorry, hi, pa, cam, pus.

00:41:44.000 Thank you.

00:41:45.000 It's the thing that was indelible in Blasey Ford's brain, remember?

00:41:50.000 Indelible in the hippocampus.

00:41:52.000 However, it is indelible.

00:41:55.000 It was the most profound development of neuroscience in the last 20 years discovery to show that your brain raw material can change based on your environment and your circumstances.

00:42:05.000 Essentially.

00:42:06.000 There is no other explanation.

00:42:07.000 There's no way that people that have disproportionately active parts of their hippocampus all just want to become taxi drivers.

00:42:13.000 Right.

00:42:13.000 It's just that this is not a thing.

00:42:14.000 Well, no, no.

00:42:15.000 The idea would be then that those are the only ones who can pass the test.

00:42:19.000 No, again, it's just, it defies logic because you're in the sub one set of the standard deviation, right?

00:42:26.000 These people just happen to all want to become cab drivers.

00:42:29.000 No, no way.

00:42:30.000 Meaning that your brain can actually become better at a certain task.

00:42:33.000 So it's like a muscle that's...

00:42:35.000 Yeah, actually, let me find the study.

00:42:36.000 It's super interesting.

00:42:37.000 So the more you work on it.

00:42:37.000 It was in Sean Astor's book called The Happiness Advantage.

00:42:42.000 Let me see here.

00:42:43.000 So the idea being then, the more you, you know, the more you work it out the same way, like when you go to the gym and you're like, I'm going to focus on whatever muscle.

00:42:51.000 This is it right here.

00:42:52.000 It's good.

00:42:52.000 A taxi driver's knowledge is often linked to an enlarged hippocampus, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:57.000 Key points.

00:42:57.000 And then the study here shows about brain plasticity.

00:43:00.000 This phenomenon demonstrates the brain's ability to adapt and change based on the experience where the hippocampus can grow in response to intensive spatial learning.

00:43:07.000 So let's put this on the flip side then.

00:43:08.000 The fact that we're all using GPS now is literally an end.

00:43:14.000 Unless you do what I do, which is you try to anticipate where the GPS is taking you before.

00:43:19.000 GPS is like AI.

00:43:20.000 It could be an enhancement to you, or it could just make you totally check out.

00:43:23.000 Well, it's sometimes wrong.

00:43:25.000 Oh, the GPS is wrong all the time.

00:43:26.000 All the time.

00:43:27.000 All the time when Mikey's driving, I'm like, why isn't it taking us this way, not that way?

00:43:30.000 That's a good sign.

00:43:31.000 If you are fact-checking your GPS, you are getting actual.

00:43:34.000 I did this when we were driving around Pennsylvania with my brother during the election.

00:43:38.000 And we were driving from Penn State to Philadelphia.

00:43:42.000 And at one point, it wanted us to go on this road, which would take us to Baltimore.

00:43:45.000 And I was like, why are we driving to Baltimore?

00:43:48.000 It's 83 South.

00:43:49.000 We need 76 East because we need to go to Philadelphia because we're going to the Eagles game.

00:43:54.000 And now it eventually picked up, but I remember sitting there looking at it.

00:44:00.000 And it was just, it was just clearly wrong.

00:44:02.000 It was clearly wrong.

00:44:02.000 I put it in the chat, Scientific American.

00:44:04.000 Okay, I got a dash.

00:44:05.000 You guys keep talking.

00:44:06.000 Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

00:44:08.000 And you guys hold on the fort.

00:44:10.000 Happy Thanksgiving, Charlie.

00:44:11.000 Have a great Thanksgiving, Charlie.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 27, 2025

Charlie's 2024 THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving With the Crew

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