The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie's First Ever Catholic Church Appearance

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

00:00:01.000 My first ever conversation at a Catholic church.

00:00:03.000 I think you'll enjoy it.

00:00:05.000 I love devout Catholics.

00:00:07.000 So many in my life that I treasure, and it's a great conversation.

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00:00:26.000 Here we go.

00:00:26.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:30.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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00:00:37.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:38.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:39.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

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00:01:25.000 Thank you, Father.

00:01:26.000 This is a great honor.

00:01:27.000 This is my first time speaking at a Catholic church, and so very, very honored by that.

00:01:33.000 Thank you.

00:01:36.000 And, you know, my favorite question, the VIP, is they say, so, Charlie, when are you converting?

00:01:41.000 When are you converting?

00:01:41.000 Is it great to always make disciples of all nations, right?

00:01:46.000 You have a real special father here.

00:01:48.000 I got to tell you, he is doing really great.

00:01:50.000 He is doing a great job.

00:01:52.000 And my wife baptized Catholic, my mom baptized Catholic, and I think my grandmother was one of the most Catholic people of the last hundred years.

00:02:01.000 Some of my earliest childhood memories was her telling me to stop talking because EWTN was on.

00:02:07.000 And so, see, you guys get that joke.

00:02:09.000 I say that, and other people, they have what is EWT?

00:02:11.000 What?

00:02:12.000 I don't know what that is.

00:02:13.000 But I have such great respect for, you know, really serious Catholics in so many different ways.

00:02:20.000 And, you know, our team has a lot of devout Catholics.

00:02:24.000 I'm going to talk just about what we, you know, I as an evangelical and Catholics have in common because I think the unity between us is far greater than people ever realize, especially in the fight for what my day-to-day work is in the fight for life and the fight for truth in a world that has lost its mind and has gone totally mad.

00:02:42.000 And I want to just emphasize one thing that I think for those of you that are engaged in this space, it's something that especially the last hundred years, the Catholic Church in America has done very well, and that's the emphasis on education.

00:02:56.000 It's something that evangelicals have done poorly. 0.78

00:02:59.000 And I say this all the time to pastors and people in the Protestant faith.

00:03:03.000 I say, how many evangelicals can you name that are on the Supreme Court?

00:03:07.000 I can name several Catholics.

00:03:09.000 What has happened is that the Catholic Church and so many of you have believed in pouring into the next generation and building institutions and building schools and passing down your values.

00:03:20.000 And that fruit is fighting for truth every single day in America.

00:03:25.000 And I was so blown away by how many people are homeschooling and sending their kids to great Catholic churches.

00:03:30.000 Just really great.

00:03:32.000 And I am such an admirer of, and I say this all the time, that the pro-life movement is something I'm very, very enthusiastic for.

00:03:46.000 I'm very outspokenly pro-life, especially when it's now less popular than ever.

00:03:50.000 I'm very pro-life.

00:03:52.000 And If we're honest, it really, the Catholic Church has been terrific on this issue in an unwavering way.

00:04:05.000 And so much of the wins that we now see are multiple generations of Catholic activists, of people that prayed the rosary every single day for the reversal of Roe versus Wade.

00:04:17.000 And honestly, as someone who is a warrior for life and someone who, you know, you might not hear this, I just want to thank those of you that have fought for life over the last couple of decades because that, and we have the beautiful child right up front.

00:04:30.000 It's one of the most important things.

00:04:31.000 So I want to touch on some stuff, then we can do some questions.

00:04:35.000 And I was, you know, it's very funny.

00:04:37.000 I take this very seriously.

00:04:39.000 I love the Bible.

00:04:40.000 I love the word.

00:04:42.000 I love to learn.

00:04:43.000 And so when I enter a holy place, I take that with some heaviness.

00:04:46.000 Holy means separate in the scriptures.

00:04:49.000 And to honor actually is the same Hebrew word as to treat heavily.

00:04:54.000 And, you know, one of the very, very kind gentlemen said, well, Charlie, are you going to be doing similar to what you did at UCLA?

00:05:00.000 I said, well, UCLA is not a holy place.

00:05:02.000 And so a lot different than coming to a holy Catholic church.

00:05:07.000 And so, but yes, I will be taking questions.

00:05:10.000 And if you disagree, you can go to the front of the line as we do at UCLA.

00:05:13.000 But I'm going to be, let's just say, far more gentle than I even was at UCLA.

00:05:18.000 I also want to shout out a really special person that I just, I think I met for the first time just a couple seconds ago, Jim Coviesel.

00:05:25.000 He is a great person.

00:05:26.000 Is he not a and stand up?

00:05:43.000 What they tried to do to this man throughout many years, and he was faithful and he believed.

00:05:50.000 And for those of you that don't know, and it's okay if you don't, but I'll connect two dots because you'll definitely know this.

00:05:55.000 He was really one of the forces of energy behind the sound of freedom the last year.

00:06:00.000 And he also had one of the toughest acting gigs in the history.

00:06:10.000 Hey, do you want to play Jesus, Jim?

00:06:12.000 Like, okay, that's.

00:06:14.000 And you did a great job.

00:06:15.000 I mean that non-sarcastically.

00:06:16.000 And this guy is faithful and he stuck his neck out.

00:06:20.000 And just what an amazing.

00:06:21.000 And by the way, people say, Charlie, you know, they ask me all the time, Charlie, what gives you hope?

00:06:24.000 So, you know, what gives me hope?

00:06:26.000 Is they spent a billion dollars making this insufferable, nauseating Barbie film that makes me just okay, I won't go too much.

00:06:34.000 And Sound of Freedom on a shoestring budget, pure grassroots, no major marketing, no academy support, pure censorship.

00:06:41.000 What did the Guardian call it?

00:06:43.000 Like a QAnon echo or something, right?

00:06:46.000 That Sound of Freedom was the second most successful film of 2023.

00:06:51.000 Is that not unbelievable?

00:06:55.000 And I truly believe the hand of God was behind that success.

00:07:01.000 But I also believe part of the demand is that it started to connect dots.

00:07:05.000 I think people all of a sudden said, oh my goodness, I knew that there was something dark and demonic going on.

00:07:10.000 I knew that they were doing things to children they should not be doing.

00:07:14.000 And in such a dramatic and persuasive and powerful way, that film hit it out of the park.

00:07:20.000 And so, Jim, honored that you're here tonight.

00:07:21.000 Thank you.

00:07:22.000 It really means a lot to me.

00:07:25.000 So the country's in trouble.

00:07:28.000 We could talk about that with QA if you want.

00:07:31.000 But the one thing I definitely want to emphasize: look, we live in an increasingly secular society.

00:07:36.000 I was just talking to the father before this.

00:07:38.000 He made such a great point.

00:07:39.000 He said, you know, the country that was around 50 or 60 years ago, we all knew our neighbors by name.

00:07:44.000 And we introduced ourselves to one another.

00:07:46.000 And we cared about our neighbors.

00:07:48.000 And I'm afraid we're becoming a nation of strangers in more ways than one.

00:07:51.000 And this is one of the reasons why I think what's happening on the southern border is one of the greatest humanitarian crises in the history of the country, not just because people are literally being sold into sex slavery and girls are being raped every single day, which is happening in the fentanyl and the drugs.

00:08:06.000 But I'm afraid that you lose that connective tissue that so many of us remember in this country, where if you don't share something in common with your neighbor, or if you feel as if you don't have to be neighborly to your fellow citizen, then you become this kind of harsh and cold, hostile community of strangers.

00:08:23.000 It's not even a community at that point.

00:08:25.000 It just kind of becomes passerby.

00:08:27.000 And we were having this amazing conversation where you knew every neighbor by name, and that if for whatever reason, you know, the dad didn't go into work, you'd knock on the door and you'd say, Hey, is everything okay?

00:08:37.000 You know, can I make you a meal?

00:08:39.000 And now you'd be lucky even if you know your neighbor's name.

00:08:42.000 And I think that is a symptom of what I am dedicating a large portion of my life of: proving that secularism destroys everything it touches.

00:08:53.000 And this is not a popular opinion always to bring, even in the conservative movement at times, because they say, Well, Charlie, we can have conservatism without religion or conservatism without a belief in God.

00:09:05.000 To be perfectly honest, I'm not interested in that type of conservatism.

00:09:08.000 I'm not interested in conservatism without a belief in the divine and the transcendent and the beautiful and the eternal.

00:09:15.000 Because then, what are you conserving?

00:09:17.000 How much stuff you can put in your garage, your stock market portfolio?

00:09:22.000 You conserve that which God gave us, which is good and true and beautiful.

00:09:26.000 Conservatism is an outgrowth of our faith, of our belief in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior.

00:09:33.000 And anyone can be conservative, but they must understand the ancestry of where that came from, which is an understanding of the natural law, understanding that we live in a world that God made that was intelligible, that we could discover.

00:09:46.000 And I can point to so many different examples.

00:09:50.000 And again, some people will push back against this, and it's fine, probably not here tonight.

00:09:54.000 But on college campuses, they certainly do.

00:09:56.000 Where I believe that one of the reasons we have the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted generations in history is we also have one of the least churched, least religious, and least engaged in their faith generations ever.

00:10:10.000 Because when you do not, when you stop believing in God, you don't believe in nothing, you'll believe in anything.

00:10:14.000 I didn't come up with that, I wish I did.

00:10:16.000 It was G.K. Chesterton.

00:10:17.000 But it's too good.

00:10:18.000 I'm sorry, I just am merely a communicator of it. 0.98

00:10:22.000 But this is how you get the most insane and silly ideas, such as that men can give birth. 0.55

00:10:28.000 And you laugh, but that is the position of the Center for Disease Control. 1.00

00:10:32.000 Only secularism can give you the idiocy and the insanity that we are living through. 0.98

00:10:37.000 And it's critical that those of all of us that believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, that we connect those dots. 0.99

00:10:43.000 It is not enough just to say, well, that doesn't make any sense.

00:10:46.000 And that is, why does it not make sense?

00:10:49.000 Because we removed the thing that truly makes sense, that there's a God that created us and we're here for a purpose and for a reason.

00:10:56.000 That's why it doesn't make sense.

00:10:58.000 All of a sudden, people say, well, I don't understand why is it that the people that are always crying about racism want black-only dormitories.

00:11:05.000 And then when I say that, that's segregation, they call me a racist.

00:11:10.000 It's secularism.

00:11:12.000 Or why is it that when I say that we shouldn't teach 12-year-olds graphic, pornographic imagery, that I'm called a hater and not a lover of our children?

00:11:24.000 And understand that as we have yielded the terrain and yielded the ground to the people that say they believe in nothing, we have fallen for a false trap.

00:11:33.000 And this is the most important thing.

00:11:34.000 If there's only one thing that you take away tonight from my speech, is that the people that tell you that they're neutral are anything but neutral.

00:11:43.000 There is no such thing as viewpoint neutrality. 0.68

00:11:45.000 So either you are the ones, or we are the ones that administer some sort of a cogent worldview that can make sense, or the people that say they're for neutrality end up pushing transgenderism and this garbage that we now see in our schools. 1.00

00:12:00.000 And I'll give you one data point.

00:12:02.000 And even if you are very sympathetic to the alphabet mafia, even if you think that it's a great thing. 0.79

00:12:10.000 Can I say that?

00:12:10.000 Is that okay?

00:12:11.000 Or am I offending people?

00:12:12.000 Is that okay?

00:12:13.000 And I think that that's in the catechism, right?

00:12:15.000 God created man, God created woman. 1.00

00:12:17.000 I think so, right?

00:12:20.000 Well, anyway, even if you're sympathetic to that, sure.

00:12:26.000 Which is that the forcefulness and the ferocity of what they're pushing it, according to a recent poll, one out of three, nearly 35% of Gen Z self-identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, two-spirit.

00:12:42.000 I mean, the thing keeps on going on.

00:12:44.000 It's a laughingstock.

00:12:45.000 And you look at that and you say, well, why is that the case?

00:12:50.000 Well, first of all, it's a social phenomenon.

00:12:51.000 It's a fad, and it grows like a virus and a contagion.

00:12:55.000 But honestly, it's our fault.

00:12:57.000 It's the faithful people's fault. 1.00

00:12:59.000 Because we've believed for quite some time.

00:13:01.000 Well, I just want a school where they teach reading, writing, and arithmetic.

00:13:04.000 How many times have we heard that?

00:13:06.000 There's no such thing.

00:13:07.000 Somebody's viewpoint will eventually be taught on sexuality.

00:13:10.000 Somebody's.

00:13:11.000 The question is whose?

00:13:13.000 Do you want the viewpoint that Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, articulated, that built the Western tradition, one that is in harmony with the natural law, or one that they will advertise on the streets of San Francisco?

00:13:25.000 And I think you guys can fill in the blanks of exactly what I mean by that.

00:13:28.000 And it is a false promise, and they've taken advantage of us.

00:13:32.000 And I'll be honest, people are starting to wake up.

00:13:34.000 The amount of broken trust that parents currently feel, where they say, I gave you my child, I trusted you with my kid, and now all of a sudden they're taking hormones or puberty blockers.

00:13:46.000 Let's call it what it is.

00:13:48.000 This is outright child abuse and people need to go to prison for what they are doing to the children of this country.

00:13:54.000 Period.

00:13:56.000 And it is full spectrum.

00:14:01.000 And I'll close with this and then we could do some questions.

00:14:03.000 My favorite part of the Bible is the first couple books of Exodus.

00:14:07.000 If you ask any serious Jew, tonight is the Shabbat, which is the longest standing celebration of the creation of the world. 0.96

00:14:14.000 I believe we as Christians could do a better job of honoring the Shabbat.

00:14:16.000 We could talk about that later, if you so choose.

00:14:19.000 But honoring the creation, that God rested for a day and that we should work for six days and one day we shall rest, as it says in the Ten Commandments, I think is something that actually nourishes the soul and makes us better versions of ourselves to celebrate the divine.

00:14:32.000 But that's just a suggestion.

00:14:33.000 We could discuss that.

00:14:35.000 But if you ask any believing Jew, they'll tell you the two most important things in Judaism is the creation and the Exodus.

00:14:42.000 And the Exodus, properly understood, is very similar to what we're living through right now.

00:14:46.000 In the first book of Exodus, it talks about, and then rose a king over Egypt who did not know Joseph.

00:14:52.000 Basically, the king or the Pharaoh who rose over Egypt had no memory of what came before, did not know all the sacrifices, the wisdom, the prudence, the blessing that Joseph gave to the prior king that allowed the Hebrews to multiply into big numbers.

00:15:05.000 That's a great lesson for today, by the way.

00:15:06.000 You could fill it.

00:15:07.000 Then rose a millennial generation who did not know George Washington.

00:15:12.000 Same sort of filler, right?

00:15:13.000 If you don't know your history, you get tyranny.

00:15:16.000 The setup of the book of Exodus, of the captivity of the Jewish people, was because they forgot what prior generations did to make them possible.

00:15:25.000 It's a perfect connection to today.

00:15:27.000 But it goes on to say, it goes on, it's a beautiful story, and it's really the first kind of example we have of outright commandment from what was a godlike figure, Pharaoh, for child sacrifice.

00:15:39.000 And child sacrifice or child murder, if you will.

00:15:42.000 We must understand this, that child sacrifice and destroying children and manipulating children is not the exception.

00:15:49.000 It is the norm.

00:15:50.000 The Aztecs did it.

00:15:51.000 The Mayans did it.

00:15:52.000 The Egyptians did it in the Indus River Valley. 0.82

00:15:54.000 And we're doing it today.

00:15:55.000 And it might sound controversial when I say that, but there are more kids being sex trafficked into this country across the southern border in what is now the modern-day North Atlantic slave trade.

00:16:05.000 What do you call planned parenthood other than a modern-day equivalent of the spilling of blood that looks exactly what happened in Egypt? 0.86

00:16:11.000 But here's what I love about that story: the Pharaoh says the Jews are multiplying in too much number, and he says, get rid of all the firstborn. 0.99

00:16:18.000 And he goes to the midwives, to the Hebrews, which could have been Egyptian or could have been Hebrew, but we'll put that aside for a second. 0.99

00:16:24.000 And he says, go kill the firstborn. 0.97

00:16:26.000 But they disobeyed because why? 1.00

00:16:29.000 They feared God.

00:16:31.000 Understand, these midwives, the Pharaoh was the closest thing to a God. 1.00

00:16:35.000 It was the closest thing that you could come to a deity.

00:16:39.000 But they feared something greater than that Pharaoh.

00:16:41.000 And they refused to throw the firstborn in the Nile.

00:16:44.000 And then the Pharaoh says, why didn't you throw the firstborn in the Nile?

00:16:46.000 They gave the worst excuse in the history of ancient literature.

00:16:49.000 Oh, the Hebrew women are so strong that they give birth so quickly, and we don't have time to throw them into the river. 1.00

00:16:55.000 And my favorite part of this, it says, God dealt well, or he dealt generously with those midwives and gave them big families.

00:17:04.000 They disobeyed tyranny.

00:17:06.000 They disobeyed the godlike authority because they loved life and they loved God more than appeasement of a despot dictator or a tyrant.

00:17:15.000 And it sets up the entire narrative because it properly understood Egypt was a death cult.

00:17:25.000 And we are up against a modern equivalent of a death cult.

00:17:29.000 Now, this might be too heavy language for you right now, but start to look around.

00:17:34.000 We worship death in this society and we reject life.

00:17:38.000 If that was not the case, why are so many people killing themselves, medicating themselves, trying to say, I can't wait for the day to be over?

00:17:45.000 So Judaism became centered around the idea that we shall reject Egypt. 0.87

00:17:50.000 What is a pyramid?

00:17:51.000 A tomb.

00:17:54.000 The most beautiful thing they built was a tomb to the underworld.

00:18:00.000 When you hear somebody toast in Hebrew, they say, Lehaim, to life. 0.98

00:18:04.000 Everything that the Old Testament is built around is a rejection of a death cult that they were trying to escape.

00:18:10.000 And as we try to fight for the most important thing, life, which this republic is founded on, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, we must understand that is not agreed upon.

00:18:20.000 When I go to college campuses, and I go so you don't have to, you're welcome.

00:18:26.000 And I mean that, by the way.

00:18:28.000 I do.

00:18:31.000 And, you know, it's very funny, as a side note, somebody said, Charlie, would you like to go on a mission trip to Namibia?

00:18:37.000 And I said, with all due respect, my mission work, my schedule is full.

00:18:43.000 My campus tour is full.

00:18:44.000 It really is mission work, and I love it.

00:18:46.000 It's great.

00:18:46.000 We could talk about that.

00:18:47.000 But when I go to these college campuses, they're not excited about life or excited about their future.

00:18:51.000 Many of them are sad and broken and heavy because we know what truly gives life.

00:18:56.000 And that is the promise and the truth of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, who lived a perfect life, who came not because we deserved it, but because God loved us, died on the cross, and rose from the dead so that we might have eternal life if we accept him as our Lord and Savior.

00:19:14.000 What a beautiful thing for us to be able to spread.

00:19:16.000 And we must do that in every possible way in the fight for the unborn, in the fight for the child right now that is being preyed upon.

00:19:23.000 There are three types of people.

00:19:25.000 There are protectors of infants, there are infants, and there are predators.

00:19:29.000 And there are always going to be predators out there.

00:19:31.000 And right now, there are predators that are trying to go after children to prescribe them hormone blockers and puberty blockers to make irreversible damage against them.

00:19:39.000 Question is: Will there be a protector of the infant to stand up for them?

00:19:43.000 And do not rely on secular society to do that.

00:19:47.000 It must start in the church.

00:19:48.000 It must be based in the church.

00:19:50.000 And it's foundational because it is not against flesh and blood of which we struggle, but it is principalities of darkness and it's a spiritual war all around us.

00:19:59.000 And I could tell you that I have been so inspired and convicted by Catholics across the country that are the most enthusiastic, that are the most passionate, and I'm honored to link arms with all of you in this fight for life, this fight for the most important and beautiful stuff.

00:20:15.000 Let's do some questions, and God bless you guys.

00:20:16.000 Thank you.

00:20:20.000 So, all right, so we're going to do some questions here.

00:20:22.000 You can line up.

00:20:24.000 If you disagree, you go to the front of the line.

00:20:27.000 They asked me to say that.

00:20:29.000 But try to make it a question, everybody, not a statement with a question mark.

00:20:35.000 So, all right, yes, sir.

00:20:36.000 Charlie Le Chaim, and as a token Jew here, I thank you very much for that introduction.

00:20:42.000 My question to you is: I've watched you a lot, it's just fantastic.

00:20:45.000 I've read your books.

00:20:46.000 How do you keep your composure when you're on the college campus?

00:20:49.000 Someone pushes my buttons, I go wild.

00:20:52.000 You know, I can count to three, but that's about it.

00:20:54.000 And I've seen you attacked, and you've kept your composure.

00:20:58.000 I want to know if that's something that was innate when you were young, or did you have to learn that?

00:21:03.000 Because it's absolutely fascinating to watch you.

00:21:05.000 Thank you for that.

00:21:06.000 So, now I'm going to try to make you a Christian. 0.99

00:21:08.000 So, you were begging for it.

00:21:13.000 I'm not naturally that way.

00:21:14.000 I'm not.

00:21:15.000 I'm impulsive.

00:21:16.000 I have a temper.

00:21:17.000 But in the scriptures, we learn about the fruits of the Spirit, of the Holy Spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, and self-control.

00:21:26.000 And if it was left to my fleshly, broken self, it's not a lot of self-control.

00:21:31.000 But thanks to the gifts of the Holy Spirit, one part of the equal Trinitarian Godhead, I'm able to have self-control that I'm not born with, that is not part of my DNA.

00:21:42.000 And I thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for remaking me and being born again.

00:21:49.000 And I could tell you that as I have taken my faith more seriously and asked for more self-control, it has been given to me.

00:21:57.000 And because if you've seen any of my videos at times, the only explanation could be supernatural for why I don't lose my mind.

00:22:06.000 And I say this as somebody who's the person there.

00:22:09.000 And hundreds of hours of things that I otherwise would go a little nuts.

00:22:14.000 But I say this non-sarcastically.

00:22:16.000 It's a fruit of the Spirit, and glory be to God that I don't lose my temper because I think it's important that I remain a cool, call, and collected even in the face of adversity.

00:22:25.000 Thank you.

00:22:32.000 Hello, Charlie.

00:22:33.000 You had said something in an address to a large pastor's group not too long ago, and you got on the subject of transgenderism and the transgender ideology.

00:22:45.000 And tell me if I'm incorrect.

00:22:47.000 When I was hearing you speak, you got some applause in that room of maybe 500 or 1,000 pastors.

00:22:53.000 But there was also a noticeable silence in there somehow.

00:22:57.000 And I'm asking, am I right that that was a silence of fear?

00:23:02.000 And then as you go along to speaking with pastors' group these last many months and touching on that subject, where do you think this is headed in the clergy community?

00:23:14.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

00:23:15.000 So I don't remember exactly what I said, but it was probably forceful and direct.

00:23:21.000 So it was probably something of the essence of this, which is there are no genders, there are two sexes and infinite personalities.

00:23:30.000 And the point being is that gender is kind of a new age psychological term that was introduced in the 1960s or 70s.

00:23:37.000 And we have fallen trapped to this language game where people then lead with gender and they say, well, I could change my gender.

00:23:44.000 When in reality, we always used to talk about sex, which is fixed at birth.

00:23:47.000 Now, I probably said something like that.

00:23:49.000 But yes, there is a lot of fear.

00:23:51.000 And the fear is understandable.

00:23:53.000 And I saw this beautiful thing.

00:23:55.000 It says back here, fear not, just believe.

00:23:57.000 I think I'm paraphrasing that correctly, which is we as Christians, we can't really pull the fear card because we have hope in Jesus Christ.

00:24:05.000 And 365 times in the scriptures, God says, do not be afraid, do not be afraid.

00:24:10.000 And said, in Joshua 1:9, it says, be strong and courageous.

00:24:14.000 And so some pastors still are afraid.

00:24:16.000 Now, what are they afraid of?

00:24:18.000 They're afraid of being called bad names.

00:24:20.000 They'll be afraid of being targeted.

00:24:21.000 I receive daily death threats from the alphabet mafia and the purple-haired jihadis that try to come after me and my family. 0.99

00:24:29.000 I'm not kidding.

00:24:33.000 What am I supposed to call them?

00:24:34.000 You know, the nice people that show up with weapons.

00:24:38.000 You know, oh, look at these wonderful people.

00:24:39.000 They're trying to kill my family.

00:24:41.000 You know, it's really great. 0.93

00:24:42.000 No, I mean, that's what they are.

00:24:44.000 But let's just be honest, a lot of these people need serious psychological help, and they're getting the wrong doses of drugs, and they're being told false things.

00:24:51.000 And, I mean, in some ways, I don't feel sorry for them, but I understand they become incredibly belligerent.

00:24:57.000 You have a 16-year-old girl who has antisocial tendencies, is on the autism spectrum disorder spectrum.

00:25:04.000 And all of a sudden, you're giving her testosterone replacement therapy and benzodiazepines and Zoloft and Prozac, and she has to go to sleep with Ambien.

00:25:13.000 And she's like up and down, and she already has bipolar tendencies. 1.00

00:25:16.000 Don't be shocked when all of a sudden she becomes super violent and starts targeting people and starts saying things that otherwise would not be necessarily rooted in just like rational discussion or chatter.

00:25:27.000 But yes, I do think that it's changing.

00:25:29.000 I think people are finding a new resolve.

00:25:31.000 And I think the transgender issue, like many other issues, they take advantage of our compassion. 1.00

00:25:37.000 They take advantage of our generosity.

00:25:39.000 They take advantage of the large heart that America has that largely is a Christian tradition.

00:25:45.000 And I think a lot of us have a heart for the downtrodden and a heart for the people that are suffering.

00:25:51.000 The problem is the way that we handle the suffering is completely wrong.

00:25:54.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:25:55.000 The way that you handle a 15 or 16-year-old that says, well, I think I'm a boy, I think I'm a girl, is not to affirm them.

00:26:01.000 The scriptures in our faith tells us that the truth will set you free, not the affirmation of your sin will set you free.

00:26:08.000 That is a major distinction.

00:26:10.000 It is a creation of the modern secular world.

00:26:15.000 It is a fabrication that we should all of a sudden affirm a lifestyle that is outside of God's will for how you to live.

00:26:24.000 That doesn't mean you have to do it in a cruel way.

00:26:26.000 You can do it in a loving way.

00:26:27.000 One of my favorite parts of the book of John is John 8, where the first part is commonly referenced, but the second part is almost never referenced.

00:26:36.000 Where it was the young woman who was a prostitute, and they were going to stone her. 1.00

00:26:40.000 And Jesus famously walks in and says, let the first without sin throw the first stone.

00:26:44.000 And they drop the stone, drop the stone.

00:26:46.000 And most people end the story there.

00:26:47.000 But the kicker is the end, where Jesus then goes to the prostitute and says, sin no more.

00:26:54.000 That's the kicker of the whole story.

00:26:56.000 With love, he says, we are all sinners.

00:26:59.000 Do not throw the stone. 0.69

00:27:01.000 But then he goes and he says to the prostitute, effectively in modern parlance, cut it out. 0.83

00:27:07.000 You're done sinning.

00:27:08.000 That is one of the most pointed directions of actual, you know, from Christ our Lord speaking to humanity about sinful behavior.

00:27:17.000 And I want you to imagine if you said sin no more now to people, they say, oh, who are you to judge?

00:27:21.000 You know, Jesus, literally, Jesus Christ our Lord said that.

00:27:25.000 And so where is this headed?

00:27:27.000 I mean, look, I believe firmly, and this will sound extreme, well, actually, won't sound too extreme, because one thing I love about Catholics is you guys understand we're in a spiritual war and that there's an invisible war and a devil who hates us, who lies, steals, cheats, and destroys and wants us all dead, which is that it is Lucifer's plan. 0.89

00:27:43.000 It is the devil's plan.

00:27:44.000 It is the usurper's plan to advance the transgender agenda in this country. 1.00

00:27:48.000 You're able to capture children, you're able to keep parents hostage, you could divide a country, you can create massive fracturing lines.

00:27:57.000 And so, what does that look like?

00:27:58.000 Is that we have to fight against this agenda at every single turn with love and truth.

00:28:02.000 And the most loving thing we can do is to get a young person or any person back into biological reality of how God made them.

00:28:11.000 Not drugs, not surgery, back to how God made you.

00:28:16.000 And the final thing I'll say on this topic, of which, as you could tell, I'm rather passionate about, is that it's a false promise.

00:28:23.000 Is that you give someone who thinks they're something that they're not that they actually can become the other thing through surgery and drugs.

00:28:30.000 And they go on a self-destructive campaign thinking that there's light at the end of the tunnel.

00:28:36.000 And there might be fake victories along the way.

00:28:38.000 Yes, testosterone does make you feel better for a short period of time. 0.83

00:28:42.000 Yes, if you get your breasts cut off, that all of a sudden you think you're that other thing. 0.91

00:28:45.000 But eventually, you realize your DNA is the same. 0.99

00:28:47.000 Your brain is the same.

00:28:49.000 It does not change.

00:28:50.000 And then all of a sudden, you realize you've been sold a bill of goods and you're irreversibly damaged for the rest of your life.

00:28:55.000 That is not loving.

00:28:56.000 That is cruel.

00:28:57.000 And we must put it to a stop.

00:28:58.000 Thank you very much.

00:29:06.000 Good evening, Charlie.

00:29:08.000 I read two books a long time ago: Why Johnny Can't Read and Why Johnny Still Can't Read.

00:29:15.000 The National Education Association of the United States, most of the teachers, and I don't mean any harm to our Catholic teachers here, but most of the teachers are now radical.

00:29:27.000 And how do we fight them?

00:29:29.000 We have children that are in Catholic schools, grammar school, high schools, and we're fighting now.

00:29:36.000 But how do the rest of the parents fight this?

00:29:42.000 Thank you for the question.

00:29:43.000 So I'm going to just speak candidly.

00:29:45.000 There are exceptions to this, but the Jesuits have become more liberal than Catholic in certain universities that I've visited.

00:29:53.000 And that might offend somebody here.

00:29:56.000 I'm being honest.

00:29:57.000 I have visited more Catholic colleges than probably you have, and they take their left-wing views more seriously than their Catholicism at Loyola University of Chicago and other Jesuit places I visited.

00:30:07.000 And if you disagree, we can have a robust debate on that.

00:30:10.000 Now, there is this unclean, I won't go that far.

00:30:14.000 Let me just say this as an outsider because I want to be respectful of everyone in this room.

00:30:20.000 There is a, I think, a theological detour.

00:30:24.000 See, I'm being nice.

00:30:27.000 That was introduced in the 60s and 70s called liberation theology.

00:30:31.000 Many of you are aware of this.

00:30:33.000 And this is a Marxist application perverting the scriptures, perverting what Christ our Lord believed in to try to revolutionize the world via Catholicism to say that it is our mandate to always look at things through social justice, which is another way of saying redistribution, abolition of private property, remaking the Western tradition, and out of that you get cultural Marxism and all this other stuff.

00:30:58.000 I cannot express to you the damage that that is doing both to the country and also, in my opinion, to the Catholic faith. 0.86

00:31:04.000 I believe that Marxism destroys everything that it touches.

00:31:08.000 And I'm by no means saying that there should be anything short of compassion and love, but when you start to all of a sudden view the entire world as if Christ's mandate on earth was to try to create a government where we redistribute the property of others and that we take by force from other people, and you try to remake what has been the most prosperous and generous society in the history of the country, which is Western civilization, that that is not what Christ believed in at all.

00:31:36.000 And so fighting back against liberation theology, which came largely from South America and made its way into a lot of Jesuit schools in this country, and social justice is very important.

00:31:47.000 But let me also equally brag that some of the most deep and exciting breakthroughs in education are coming through in Catholic, classical education schools across the country.

00:31:59.000 And classical education, if you're not aware of it, classical education is how our founders were educated.

00:32:05.000 It is the belief system that there is good and true and beautiful, that we're trying to develop the soul of a human being.

00:32:11.000 We're not just trying to create desk workers or administrative bureaucrats, that you study the great works to Catholics' credit.

00:32:18.000 Evangelicals did not do a good job of this, but Catholics will use ancient Greek philosophy and texts to point towards Christ, to point towards the scriptures.

00:32:27.000 They will take Aristotle seriously, Socrates seriously, Plato seriously.

00:32:31.000 They'll take Aquinas seriously.

00:32:33.000 They'll take Augustine seriously.

00:32:35.000 They'll use extra-biblical texts, I think, in a very, in a very, in a remarkably successful way.

00:32:41.000 That there is this belief in evangelical circles that if it's not in the Bible, we shouldn't study it and we shouldn't learn it, which is actually not even biblical because it says in Philippians, whatsoever is good, whatever is true, whatever is beautiful, dwell and think on these things.

00:32:55.000 And so to compliment those of you in the space that are teaching young people all the things that are good, true, and beautiful, as it says in Philippians 4, then God bless you and I think that's excellent.

00:33:05.000 But if I may say, and be very blunt, that you guys need to wage a war for the moral center of Catholic education because it has taken a disturbing left turn in the last couple decades and especially in the last 10 years.

00:33:19.000 And I'll give you an example.

00:33:21.000 Thankfully, it ended up being okay, but this was a major fight where I think it's St. Mary's, the Sister School of Notre Dame in South Bend, is that right?

00:33:29.000 Where is this huge controversy where they backtracked?

00:33:32.000 Thankfully, a Catholic school in South Bend, Indiana entertained allowing biological men to go to this female school. 1.00

00:33:39.000 Now, there was such backlash, there was such uproar that even that was too far of a step.

00:33:45.000 But don't be surprised, everybody.

00:33:46.000 That is what is coming next.

00:33:48.000 And my advice always is hold fast to the teachings of the church, hold fast to the scriptures, and do not give an inch to a world that hates you.

00:33:57.000 Do not give an inch to people that are trying to destroy your traditions and destroy your deeply held beliefs.

00:34:03.000 And the education space is super important.

00:34:06.000 And I would just play offense because the entire kind of social justification, for lack of a better term, of Catholic education has been a big disappointment.

00:34:15.000 Thank you.

00:34:15.000 Next question.

00:34:22.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:34:23.000 I have a daughter who's going into college.

00:34:25.000 And I just bought your book, College is a Scam.

00:34:28.000 You mentioned Hillsdale College in Michigan is the one college you still believe is the right place to go.

00:34:36.000 But if what are you said, there's a few others left.

00:34:38.000 What can we do to tell our family members, our children, with things we don't want to give them away, that we raise them in a Christian family with conservative values, and they come home and they're not that same person anymore?

00:34:52.000 I've heard that so many times from other friends.

00:34:55.000 So what do we do?

00:34:56.000 Where do we go?

00:34:57.000 I have these new friends in the audience.

00:34:59.000 They just approached me and they said, Charlie, we love you.

00:35:01.000 Our kids are commies.

00:35:02.000 I said, oh, really?

00:35:04.000 It's true.

00:35:06.000 Where is that couple, by the way?

00:35:08.000 Right here.

00:35:08.000 Did I make that up or did you not say that, right?

00:35:11.000 They will attest to it.

00:35:13.000 And their kid went to UC Santa Barbara and right there.

00:35:15.000 I asked him, I said, where'd they go to college?

00:35:17.000 And I remember, really sweet couple.

00:35:20.000 And what I love is they say, and we still bring the heat every Thanksgiving.

00:35:23.000 I said, I just love it.

00:35:24.000 It's great.

00:35:26.000 I just love it.

00:35:31.000 I will add to the list, Wyoming Catholic College, for those of you that are Catholic, it's a phenomenal school.

00:35:37.000 They do a great job.

00:35:38.000 They study the classical text.

00:35:39.000 It's a great book school.

00:35:40.000 It's excellent.

00:35:41.000 It's small, but they do a really great job.

00:35:42.000 Hillsdale is America's greatest college.

00:35:44.000 I don't put my name behind it lightly.

00:35:46.000 Liberty University is also a great school with evangelical school, but they have a pretty serious Catholic community there as well that people don't actually know about.

00:35:54.000 Liberty is excellent.

00:35:55.000 They do a great job.

00:35:57.000 But look, I will say this as kindly as I can.

00:36:01.000 If the events of the last six months have not convinced you that colleges are rotten to the core, that should basically be bankrupted and burned to the ground and remade into something new, I just and here's my one thing I will say to answer your question.

00:36:21.000 And yes, you could check out the book, The College Scam, or you just read the title and believe it and don't buy the book.

00:36:27.000 So I always try to make my titles just so good in case someone just buys the book and reads the title.

00:36:35.000 The essence is there.

00:36:36.000 You could learn why I believe it later on, which is this.

00:36:41.000 Some professors, not all, but some are predators. 0.96

00:36:45.000 And I don't mean sexual predators. 0.98

00:36:46.000 There are those two.

00:36:47.000 But I mean intellectual and philosophical predators.

00:36:51.000 And I know that's a tough, that's a heavy statement because you think of them as the best welfare to open your kids' eyes and to walk them through.

00:36:58.000 No, no, no.

00:36:59.000 They look at your kids as opportunities.

00:37:02.000 And they prey on your children.

00:37:04.000 And they're good at it.

00:37:06.000 They have PhDs.

00:37:07.000 They've been trained in the rhetoric, in the dialogue, in how to lead an 18-year-old to rebel against mom and dad in 30 days.

00:37:17.000 They know the right text to introduce.

00:37:19.000 If you are not well read in deconstructionism, then don't send your kid to college.

00:37:25.000 Hi, Mr. Greg.

00:37:26.000 Thank you so much for coming.

00:37:29.000 I'm a senior at St. Nicole Academy, which is a Catholic school, which is actually a classical education school as well.

00:37:36.000 And I'm doing a senior thesis.

00:37:38.000 And my senior thesis kind of involves feminism in a way, but kind of relates to younger enlightenment with Catholic religion.

00:37:50.000 And my senior thesis is Catholic wives and mothers should be able to pursue professional careers without the degradation of the role of the husband.

00:38:00.000 And I think that's really important nowadays because we have all these new opportunities in this modern age.

00:38:06.000 And I think I want to know what your stance is on a traditional view or even on a view of today's modern age.

00:38:15.000 That's a beautiful question.

00:38:16.000 Thank you.

00:38:18.000 I'd have to read the thesis.

00:38:21.000 The title is interesting.

00:38:24.000 I would be interested to see if you still believe that in five or ten years.

00:38:29.000 Look, everything in life comes at a cost and a choice.

00:38:32.000 And let me just tell you currently what's happened, and you could think about it whatever you want, right?

00:38:37.000 And I'll just talk about it from a general societal perspective.

00:38:40.000 The vast majority of the consensus in America right now for young women is get married late, if at all, pursue your career, freeze your eggs, go to college, have as much sex as you want, and you're in charge. 0.99

00:38:57.000 Think of just kind of boss babe type stuff.

00:39:00.000 And I know you're not recommending any of that.

00:39:02.000 I'm just saying, let me just kind of tell you.

00:39:04.000 So what has the result of that belief been?

00:39:07.000 The result has been we have more single early 30-something women than married 30-something women. 1.00

00:39:14.000 We have a generation, millions and millions of young ladies who went to college, got a college degree, have a good job. 0.99

00:39:21.000 They have a big apartment and it's full of cats.

00:39:26.000 And they are by far the angriest group of people that America has at our disposal.

00:39:35.000 They are bitter, resentful.

00:39:39.000 They are increasingly not religious at all.

00:39:42.000 So why is that?

00:39:43.000 And let me just tell you, everything at life comes at a cost and a choice.

00:39:46.000 And I get hundreds of these emails every single week of young women in their 30s that are burdened that they were told to prioritize career.

00:39:55.000 Now, your question specifically was about wives and husbands, right?

00:39:59.000 So I'm going to get to that.

00:40:00.000 But I just want to talk more macro that there is a huge amount of career regret with young women in America. 1.00

00:40:08.000 Now, yes, of course, young women can pursue work, and that's fine. 0.84

00:40:13.000 I'm more of a traditionalist.

00:40:14.000 I have the best wife in the world who's incredibly successful and runs a Bible and 365 ministry and a fashion line.

00:40:23.000 But her first thing is to be a wife and a mom, and she'll tell you. 0.89

00:40:32.000 I think it is very important nowadays for women to understand that we are called to be mothers.

00:40:39.000 We are born with wombs. 0.80

00:40:41.000 We should be able to procreate with a loving husband. 1.00

00:40:44.000 That is always our number one stance.

00:40:46.000 No, that's beautiful.

00:40:47.000 So let me, I was recently introduced to a way to frame this, which is we actually do everything backwards and we just have to not fight biology.

00:40:58.000 We should instead encourage our young ladies to get married and have kids sooner and then pursue the career once the kids are grown up, not the other way around. 1.00

00:41:08.000 And I know that sounds counterintuitive, but obviously have kids while you can have the kids, right?

00:41:15.000 And then when you're in your mid-30s or late 30s and you might have a certificate in nursing and your kids are 16, 17, or 18, that's the perfect time to do that.

00:41:24.000 And it actually has, I see it work a lot.

00:41:27.000 And by the way, you have grandkids by the time you're like 45, which, and then you have, it's like, you know?

00:41:33.000 And so you laugh, but a lot of you are in that situation.

00:41:37.000 So anyway, that's something to think about.

00:41:39.000 God bless you.

00:41:40.000 It's a beautiful thesis.

00:41:41.000 Thank you.

00:41:48.000 My name is Jean Gabrielle.

00:41:50.000 I'm run for the Republican Central Committee for District 4.

00:41:55.000 With the polarized political system that we're in right now, which seems very divided, obviously, how can you encourage the people in this room to engage in the political process in a way where they don't feel defeatist, where they're not doing enough, that they're committed to the Constitution and what Americans bring to be?

00:42:23.000 That's a beautiful question.

00:42:24.000 I love that.

00:42:25.000 It's a great question.

00:42:26.000 So it's very simple, to despair is a sin.

00:42:29.000 And As a Christian, we despair way too often.

00:42:33.000 We do.

00:42:34.000 And if there's a takeaway of the book of Numbers, it's God does not put up with despair.

00:42:39.000 I mean, again, the least impressive group of people in the history of ancient texts are the ancient Hebrews. 0.94

00:42:45.000 They're constantly complaining and fighting with one another, and we don't have enough food, and God keeps giving them food, and we don't like this food.

00:42:51.000 I mean, it's like if God can deliver these people and bring them to a prominent nation, He is the creator of the heavens and the earth because these people were not exactly Alexander the Great or the Roman Empire, right?

00:43:01.000 They were very unimpressive.

00:43:03.000 By the way, you might say, Charlie, it's anti-Semitic.

00:43:05.000 I'm quoting Dennis Prager, so calm down.

00:43:07.000 So it's true.

00:43:09.000 Dennis Prager says it multiple times on his radio program, and so I said, I'm taking that.

00:43:14.000 I love that.

00:43:15.000 So I'll let Dennis defend me.

00:43:16.000 But why is that important?

00:43:18.000 In the book of Numbers, they despair time and time again, and God gets angry.

00:43:23.000 So I think we need to recalibrate our attitude.

00:43:26.000 We're born new by Jesus Christ.

00:43:29.000 We have hope.

00:43:29.000 We have life eternal.

00:43:31.000 We shouldn't be down or despair.

00:43:33.000 We have a great country still, despite everything they've thrown at us.

00:43:37.000 And somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, what gives you hope?

00:43:40.000 And I have a lot of things that give me hope.

00:43:42.000 But there are so many great people still left in this country.

00:43:46.000 I don't know if we're a majority.

00:43:48.000 I don't know.

00:43:49.000 I think we are.

00:43:50.000 There's no way to actually know.

00:43:53.000 Again, I think we are, but everything's all screwed up, as you well know.

00:43:57.000 I mean, we have unbelievably passionate, dedicated people.

00:44:01.000 And I'm not saying other countries don't have that, but there is an exceptional attitude to America that still exists.

00:44:08.000 There's a remnant that still exists.

00:44:10.000 And so my message to everyone here is to not despair and to organize and be active and be energetic and to do your part, to do your duty.

00:44:17.000 You know, my whole theme in 2024 is this, in Hebrew, it's henani, which means here I am.

00:44:24.000 And it appears every time there's an inflection point in the scriptures.

00:44:28.000 For example, when God calls Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac, he says, here I am.

00:44:34.000 When Samuel was called as a boy, here I am.

00:44:36.000 When Moses was called at the burning bush, it's here I am.

00:44:40.000 It's these places of inflection.

00:44:41.000 It means, Lord, use me.

00:44:42.000 I am ready.

00:44:43.000 And I think we all need to kind of have that attitude, which is to pray to God in our private time and say, Here I am.

00:44:49.000 What do you want from me?

00:44:51.000 What is my job?

00:44:53.000 And God will reveal that through His Holy Spirit.

00:44:56.000 He will.

00:44:56.000 And I think we all need to pray that prayer, and God will use you as a vessel for his will here on earth.

00:45:02.000 Thank you very much.

00:45:12.000 So I wanted to know what the young people do to fight back against the vulture that's rigged against us.

00:45:17.000 That's a great question.

00:45:19.000 Join Turning Point USA would be my first recommendation.

00:45:22.000 I'm very biased.

00:45:23.000 I think Turning Point is the most important organization in the country, especially reaching young people.

00:45:28.000 And we're doing a great job, and we have thousands of high school and college chapters across the country, and it's just amazing what's happening.

00:45:35.000 You can acknowledge that it's rigged against you.

00:45:36.000 It's rigged against you in many different ways.

00:45:38.000 And I sometimes, every so often, I'll get an email and they'll say, you know, young people are so lazy and all this.

00:45:43.000 And I don't like that because there's lazy members of every generation. 0.97

00:45:46.000 And yeah, maybe millennials are lazier and Gen Zs are lazy, lazier. 0.98

00:45:50.000 Maybe. 0.99

00:45:51.000 But maybe.

00:45:51.000 And I'll say maybe.

00:45:52.000 But there's some superstars in this generation.

00:45:54.000 There are some really amazing young people that have their life together and doing some great stuff.

00:45:58.000 So don't throw out the entire generation.

00:46:01.000 You spend some time around Turning Point USA.

00:46:03.000 I think you'll have a different attitude.

00:46:04.000 But we also must acknowledge, you know, every so often, I also hear is, you know, why are they always complaining?

00:46:10.000 You know, it was easy to buy a home way back 40, 50 years ago.

00:46:13.000 I hope all of you that are in the baby boomer generation just understand it's a completely different financial situation for this generation.

00:46:19.000 And I'm not a victim politics guy.

00:46:21.000 I'm not any of that.

00:46:22.000 But I'm going to be perfectly honest with you that when exactly are they supposed to get the capital at their disposal to afford a down payment on a home that has doubled in value in the last three years of interest rates that are nearly 7% or 8%.

00:46:34.000 And meanwhile, they have student loan debt, medical debt, credit card debt, car loan debt, and they're supposed to just scrap together $35,000 for a down payment on a home that they also have to pay property tax on and maintenance on.

00:46:46.000 I mean, at some point, it gets to the place where the financials don't make any sense.

00:46:50.000 It's creating the most rented generation in history, which is bad.

00:46:55.000 That is bad for our country, and it's bad for our politics.

00:46:58.000 It creates angrier people because they're not building equity.

00:47:01.000 They're not actually getting skin in the game.

00:47:03.000 They're just constantly looking at the world as a utility.

00:47:06.000 It's money in, money out.

00:47:08.000 And so I tend to agree it is kind of rigged, but don't use that as an excuse.

00:47:12.000 And that's what is a difficult thing.

00:47:14.000 It's easy then to say, well, it's rigged.

00:47:15.000 Give me free stuff.

00:47:16.000 It's rigged.

00:47:17.000 No, you have to understand that the odds are against you, but you still have a great opportunity to make something of yourself and be the best version of yourself in a country that is less free than the country I grew up in, but there's still an immense amount of opportunity to flourish and be prosperous and be happy and be joyful.

00:47:32.000 That's a difficult balance to strike at times because it's very tempting to just complain all the time and just want free stuff as because of it.

00:47:38.000 But I do see things are changing, and I'll tell you why.

00:47:42.000 There's a new politics that is being introduced.

00:47:44.000 It's not yet manifested, of a younger generation on the conservative side that is very outspoken on these issues.

00:47:50.000 Think about the most popular spokespeople on the American right.

00:47:54.000 These are people like Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles and Candace Owens.

00:47:58.000 These are people that really understand what's happening in this country.

00:48:00.000 These are people that are very faithful.

00:48:03.000 They're filled with the spirit.

00:48:04.000 And it is a contrast, if I might say, than just even some of the people that dominate some of the cable television talk shows right now that I find to be insufferable.

00:48:12.000 I can't watch cable TV anymore.

00:48:14.000 And said, I listen to two or three hour podcasting and long-form interviews.

00:48:19.000 I can't listen to just the same five-minute segments.

00:48:22.000 It kills my brain cells at times, right?

00:48:25.000 I'm sorry if I'm insulting you, but it's just, you know, if you like that stuff.

00:48:28.000 And so I think that there is this rising generation of young conservatives that are really, they're ambitious.

00:48:36.000 We want a better country.

00:48:37.000 We're willing to do something about it.

00:48:39.000 And it's best exhibited by some of the names that I mentioned and also the rise at Turning Point USA.

00:48:43.000 Thank you very much.

00:48:44.000 Appreciate it.

00:48:51.000 You know, my question is, I'll start with a little preamble and I try not to make it okay.

00:48:56.000 I'll try to be as concise as possible.

00:49:00.000 We live in a country that is arguably more culturally divided than it ever has been, or at least in the last 160 years.

00:49:10.000 While this is happening, concurrently, we have our enemies looming over us in other countries, you know, flouting their authority over us.

00:49:19.000 Our hegemony as the United States as a great empire is coming to an end, or at least it appears to be.

00:49:26.000 And so I guess my question for you would be: what do you think the future of this country looks like in the next five years if things continue on the way they are, you know, without this kind of great rising?

00:49:42.000 Collapse.

00:49:44.000 We're not immune to that.

00:49:46.000 If things don't change quickly, the entire civilization is going to collapse.

00:49:51.000 And we are on very fragile footing.

00:49:54.000 And for those of you that follow my show, I don't make predictions like that unless I really believe it.

00:49:58.000 I'm usually right.

00:50:00.000 We have a Potemkin village economically.

00:50:02.000 You can't have 6 million people come into your country and you don't know who they are and sustain yourself and have another 6 million on top of that, another 10 million on top.

00:50:10.000 It's not possible.

00:50:11.000 Not to mention what's going on internationally, China, and all this.

00:50:15.000 And so I won't stop fighting.

00:50:17.000 I won't give up.

00:50:18.000 I'm not moving to New Zealand anytime soon.

00:50:20.000 The stakes are very, very high.

00:50:22.000 And there is this belief that I don't love, and I appreciate the attitude, but I don't love.

00:50:27.000 They say, oh, America's been through a lot.

00:50:29.000 Nothing can break us.

00:50:30.000 That's just not founded in the natural law.

00:50:33.000 Anything can break.

00:50:34.000 And every possible prerequisite that has broken big and great empires before, we are indulging in.

00:50:40.000 Massive debts and deficits, open borders, the destruction of connective tissue, which is, you know, we're no longer neighbors.

00:50:48.000 We're a nation of strangers.

00:50:49.000 We're becoming colder and harsher to one another.

00:50:51.000 We no longer protect children like we used to.

00:50:53.000 The moral and the societal decay, all those things.

00:50:56.000 It is reversible.

00:50:57.000 Why is it reversible?

00:50:58.000 Because we're doing it to ourselves.

00:51:01.000 And when you're committing suicide, you could stop.

00:51:04.000 That's why it's reversible.

00:51:05.000 It's not being done to us.

00:51:07.000 We're doing it to ourselves.

00:51:09.000 America is in need of electroshock therapy more than anything else.

00:51:13.000 We're in this suicidal malaise.

00:51:15.000 We're walking towards destroying the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:51:19.000 It's not like we've been invaded by aliens, despite what some of you believe.

00:51:22.000 I'm kidding.

00:51:24.000 UFO questions drive me crazy, by the way.

00:51:26.000 I'm like, do we have enough problems?

00:51:27.000 We've got an open border.

00:51:28.000 Charlie, do you believe in aliens?

00:51:29.000 They're like, yeah, illegal aliens.

00:51:31.000 I mean, come on. 0.98

00:51:33.000 Drives me nuts.

00:51:36.000 We're not under some mass hypnosis.

00:51:38.000 We're doing this.

00:51:39.000 Every single problem I just mentioned, we're doing to ourselves.

00:51:42.000 Therefore, we can correct it.

00:51:44.000 And that is the optimistic message takeaway.

00:51:49.000 We can correct it.

00:51:58.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:51:59.000 Last time we saw you in person, spoken about that.

00:52:03.000 I had a policy thought the other day that I think would give the Republican Party a lot of needed votes.

00:52:11.000 And I just want your opinion on that a lot.

00:52:14.000 So kids that grow up in poverty, statistically, they don't get an investment portfolio until decades later.

00:52:23.000 So my thought is kids in high school who are in poverty, every year they move on to a new grave, we would give them like $500 to invest in an American-only business stock market.

00:52:40.000 That way, when they leave high school, they would have $2,000 invested, and the American economy would get an economic boost every year.

00:52:51.000 It's an interesting idea.

00:52:52.000 It could be good.

00:52:53.000 I will just challenge this: that the problem with poverty is not the lack of stuff.

00:52:58.000 It's bad values.

00:53:01.000 And I know that might sound controversial, but people are not poor because they don't have stuff.

00:53:06.000 They might be temporarily poor because they don't have stuff.

00:53:09.000 But anyone can lift themselves out of poverty in this country if you have a proper value system.

00:53:14.000 And the value system is most important.

00:53:16.000 You might say, Charlie, what is the difference between the rich and the poor, the middle class, and the poor?

00:53:20.000 It's delayed gratification.

00:53:22.000 It's that simple.

00:53:23.000 Is that if you decide now, your idea might play into that because it's an untouchable stock portfolio, so it might be a good idea.

00:53:30.000 But I just want to make sure we caution ourselves to act as if you give people a bunch of stuff, it's going to solve their poverty.

00:53:36.000 There is no example of that ever in the history of the planet.

00:53:39.000 Instead, the value system does.

00:53:40.000 There's a great book by Dr. Theodore Dalrymple, Life at the Bottom, that proves this.

00:53:45.000 He treated 30,000 people in total poverty in the United Kingdom, and he came away saying it's the value system that matters most.

00:53:51.000 What is delayed gratification?

00:53:53.000 I am going to have a tough day today so that I could have a better day tomorrow.

00:53:57.000 That's what built the West.

00:53:59.000 And people that deny that reality is why they're in poverty and they remain in poverty.

00:54:04.000 And in my personal opinion, it's unloving and it is not Christ-like to act as if just more of other people's stuff is going to lift them out of poverty.

00:54:14.000 Instead, it is a different worldview and value system to empower them to improve their conditions.

00:54:19.000 Thank you very much.

00:54:20.000 Can I wrap it up for you?

00:54:30.000 Great.

00:54:31.000 In closing, everybody, this has been so great.

00:54:33.000 If you're not yet subscribed to our podcast, you could do that by opening up your phone.

00:54:37.000 And just such an honor.

00:54:38.000 This was my first Catholic Church.

00:54:39.000 Hopefully, it won't be my last.

00:54:41.000 And you guys are being really well led here.

00:54:43.000 God bless you guys.

00:54:44.000 Thank you so much.

00:54:49.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:54:50.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:54:54.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 11, 2024

Charlie's First Ever Catholic Church Appearance

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