The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie's Tragic "I Told You So" with Matt Peterson

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00:01:23.000 With us right now is a great American Patriot, co-founder and general partner of New Founding, and also the president of American Firebrand Super PAC and friend of the show, Matt Peterson.

00:01:34.000 Matt, welcome back to the program.

00:01:36.000 Hey, it's great to be here, Charlie.

00:01:37.000 So, Matt, I want to get through a couple news items here, but first, I want to play a piece of tape here from Justice Alito's speech.

00:01:44.000 I think he gave it in Rome, which is super scary because that's where the Catholic Church is headquartered. 0.82

00:01:49.000 You're not allowed to do that. 0.99

00:01:50.000 And I want to play Cut 94 here.

00:01:52.000 And the way the media has responded is a new line of attack that you can see in kind of the smart coordinated circles, the people that are considered to be smarter, you know, than not.

00:02:02.000 However, they are all kind of coordinating their attacks around Christian nationalism.

00:02:09.000 Play Cut 94. 0.65

00:02:11.000 Over the last few weeks, since I had the honor, this term of writing, I think, the only Supreme Court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders who felt perfectly fine commenting on American law.

00:02:35.000 One of these was former Prime Minister Boris Johnson, but he paid the price.

00:02:42.000 Matt, kind of mocking Boris Johnson there, Samuel Alito, who I think is the best thing George W. Bush ever gave us, probably my favorite member of the court.

00:02:50.000 They're attacking him as being a Christian nationalist.

00:02:53.000 What do they mean by that, Matt?

00:02:55.000 Well, in their minds, of course, they think Christian nationalism is a smear.

00:02:59.000 They think both of those words are bad.

00:03:01.000 And if you put them together, it's two bad things.

00:03:04.000 And that's one big bad thing. 1.00

00:03:07.000 And it's a scary monster, which I think in their minds means something like, you know, handmaid's tale, an enforced Christian religion.

00:03:17.000 They think it's racist, too. 0.95

00:03:18.000 Somehow, they seem to only regard whites as Christians. 0.99

00:03:22.000 It's interesting. 0.86

00:03:24.000 But white people who are Christian controlling the country and shoving their views down everyone else's throat is what they mean by it. 0.83

00:03:33.000 And the hilarious thing here is that neither of those words are bad. 0.78

00:03:37.000 And when you put them together, you actually get what I think millions of people throughout the country think is normal.

00:03:45.000 Yes, exactly.

00:03:46.000 And so the Washington Post says, where Justice Alito and Representative Green overlap on religious liberty.

00:03:54.000 Now, Justice Alito is different than some of the other justices on the court.

00:03:58.000 He's an originalist.

00:04:00.000 However, he's pushed back against some of the other rulings that maybe Gorsuch has had, especially on immigration or Kavanaugh on some of the others.

00:04:07.000 What is it about kind of Clarence Thomas and Alito and some of those members of the court that stand differently than some of the more traditional Republican justices?

00:04:17.000 Well, I think they don't hide behind an originalism that's too scared to rule on what the Constitution means.

00:04:28.000 So, you know, there's a strain of originalism that I call it technocratic, that wants to shy away from really correcting 50 years of egregious liberal error when it comes to the Constitution.

00:04:45.000 And perhaps no case illustrates this better than Roe v. Wade.

00:04:50.000 You don't have to be on the right or left to realize that the Constitution says nothing about abortion, nothing about a right to privacy.

00:04:57.000 All of this was introduced out of whole cloth a long time ago, and it's a terrible decision.

00:05:04.000 It's just terrible logic.

00:05:06.000 And even if you wanted to get to that result, you could write a better decision.

00:05:09.000 So I think that what you see in the more bold justices is the idea that no, we will correct these errors.

00:05:16.000 We will return that decision back to the states.

00:05:22.000 Or, you know, some of them would go even further.

00:05:25.000 But I guess to boil it down, they're willing to make those judgments and they're not hiding behind a kind of proceduralism or they're not hiding behind this idea that, oh, well, we have to be very careful prudentially and respect precedent, even if the precedent is laughable and unconstitutional.

00:05:44.000 So, Matt, another thing I want to reinforce for our audience, though, George W. Bush originally wanted to put Harriet Myers on the court.

00:05:50.000 And it wasn't until conservatives said, no, we've had enough.

00:05:54.000 We want a real constitutionalist.

00:05:56.000 It's a story of also the power of the people, which segues to a question I want to ask you about, Matt.

00:06:00.000 I want to spend some time on.

00:06:02.000 And this is a piece from the MSNBC.

00:06:04.000 It looks, quote, Merrick Garland is acting like an attorney general is supposed to act as they're investigating Donald Trump, potentially going to indict Trump, going after many Trump allies.

00:06:13.000 What is your take on this outright, naked and public weaponization of government against political opponents?

00:06:22.000 Look, Americans have to wake up and realize that what's happening here is extremely serious.

00:06:29.000 And, you know, I don't see how you get back to normal anytime within our lifetimes.

00:06:35.000 I mean, what you're doing by criminalizing dissent, by criminalizing the other side, by using the power of government against the other side, is you're starting a cycle in which both sides are going to have to do the same thing in order to keep up with each other, in order to stay afloat, in order to stay alive.

00:06:53.000 And this is a desire for a one-party state.

00:06:57.000 And what you have to think is, if you were responsible, a responsible political leader, even if you were on the left, you would realize that by criminalizing dissent, by trying to criminally prosecute your political opponents, you are, this is the height of irresponsibility.

00:07:14.000 You are going to throw the country into a divide, a debate, a conflict that escalates.

00:07:20.000 And I have to say, I don't know how some of these people aren't very smart, but some of them are smart enough to realize what they're doing.

00:07:28.000 They are purposely doing what they accuse the other side of.

00:07:31.000 They are escalating political conflict in the United States in a way that's extremely unhealthy and that frankly, most Americans never dreamed would happen here.

00:07:41.000 It's happening here now.

00:07:43.000 Yes.

00:07:44.000 And I mean, it's so then, I guess the operative question then is, Matt, how do we stop it?

00:07:48.000 How do you stop the federal government going after political opponents?

00:07:52.000 Well, yeah, that's a good question.

00:07:55.000 I mean, I think the first thing that needs to happen is Republicans need to be screaming about this and doing everything they can, if they have political power, to leverage that power against it.

00:08:08.000 So this is why taking over Congress is important.

00:08:12.000 These people should be investigated, and anyone running for president should be directly talking about how, giving us a plan, how they're going to radically clean out. these agencies and these departments.

00:08:25.000 Because if they don't do that, this is only going to continue.

00:08:29.000 So A, it's awareness.

00:08:31.000 Tell people what's going on, identify it as the radical threat to our system that it is, and then provide that plan of what you would do when you take office, no matter what your political position is.

00:08:43.000 There's a lot of ways to get at it, but we need to hear political leaders with a plan who are directly addressing it and saying, when I get in there, I'm going to get rid of X, Y, and Z. I'm going to clean out the stables, and this is how I'm going to do it.

00:08:55.000 There's many paths potentially, but it starts with awareness and then it starts with people talking about specific plans.

00:09:00.000 And Matt, what frustrates me, and we'll talk about it after the break, is that some of the old guard in the Republican Party still acts as if we're dealing with a Democrat Party that is in good faith and good intentions.

00:09:11.000 They're literally imprisoning their opponents, Matt.

00:09:14.000 I mean, this is as serious as it gets.

00:09:17.000 This is the descent into a third world oligarchy.

00:09:20.000 There is no other way to put it.

00:09:22.000 Now, some people said, well, we should go imprison all of them.

00:09:24.000 I'm like, well, I mean, what does that even mean?

00:09:26.000 How do you do that?

00:09:27.000 Is that the proper course of action?

00:09:29.000 I mean, I said the other day on the show that state attorney generals, as just as a show of force, should all consolidate criminal investigations in a Hunter Biden.

00:09:38.000 I'm sure he's broken plenty of laws in your states, Red States.

00:09:41.000 He seemed to party in Arkansas plenty. 0.91

00:09:43.000 And I said that somewhat jokingly, but I also said they have to think that there is a counterbalance against them, right?

00:09:49.000 They can't be the only ones that put political, meaning they have to feel as if there is a cost to this.

00:09:56.000 I don't know what that is.

00:09:57.000 I'm just thinking out loud.

00:09:58.000 But currently, there is no check.

00:10:00.000 There is no balance because they control the entire criminal justice institution.

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00:11:12.000 So Matt, I would just want to get into some details here, though, because people feel so helpless.

00:11:16.000 They're willing to lock up their political opponents.

00:11:19.000 How do we then respond just from a state level, a local level, if at all?

00:11:23.000 Or do we just talk about it and hope it gets better?

00:11:26.000 No, no, the time for op-eds only as a response has ended.

00:11:32.000 This is not an academic matter anymore.

00:11:34.000 This is not a matter of commentating and talking.

00:11:40.000 This is now a matter of action.

00:11:42.000 And let me say first that I do think that a taste of their own medicine in a just and equitable way, as they would say, is absolutely what's required.

00:11:52.000 So let me give you some examples.

00:11:54.000 First off, you know, I'm thinking you walk in as president, say, let's stop at start at the top.

00:12:00.000 You declare Black Lives Matter and Antifa domestic terrorist organizations, and you say, we're going to look back at 2020, and we are going to investigate and, if necessary, prosecute anyone who supported violent crime throughout the entire country.

00:12:17.000 And that includes politicians who gave them aid.

00:12:21.000 That includes private corporations that gave money to these terrorist groups.

00:12:25.000 That includes large foundations who are funding illegal activity effectively.

00:12:30.000 We're going to have to investigate that and we're going to have to look at their communications, the communications between these violent insurrectionists, right?

00:12:38.000 These violent rioters and their organizations and the politicians and foundations who supported them.

00:12:44.000 That to me is completely legitimate as a move.

00:12:47.000 And that would send a signal that you're not going to get away with this.

00:12:51.000 We are going to come after you and we are going to make you pay because you did violate the law.

00:12:56.000 And we can investigate your foundations and your universities.

00:12:59.000 What universities supported the riots?

00:13:01.000 What universities are teaching violence and justifying violence and insurrection throughout the country against the United States of America?

00:13:09.000 Well, lots of them.

00:13:10.000 And therefore, we will remove funding after we do a thorough investigation of what these universities are teaching.

00:13:16.000 Charlie, this is just an example of the kind of thing that could be done at the state and federal level.

00:13:21.000 Why is it Republicans are unwilling or reluctant to do that, Matt?

00:13:27.000 Well, I think you have what I would call a leadership class or a number of people who've been in office for a long time who really haven't had their feet held to the fire.

00:13:37.000 And let's be honest, especially in red states, right, where the Republicans are in charge and have been in charge for a long time, they haven't had to do much, right?

00:13:47.000 And we don't have the luxury for that anymore.

00:13:50.000 So both nationally and at the state level, we need to find leaders who actually understand where the base is, where the people is.

00:13:58.000 People are in front of their leaders right now.

00:14:00.000 And that takes a while to catch up.

00:14:02.000 And the only way that we're going to have people who really represent the people and protect the Republican base is if the Republican base pushes for new and better leadership.

00:14:13.000 And I will say that you have to model this locally.

00:14:16.000 It doesn't matter if you live in a state where you think everything's kind of fine.

00:14:19.000 If you poke around, it's usually not fine.

00:14:22.000 And so you need to join the growing numbers of people who are doing something in their own communities.

00:14:27.000 You know, city council, school boards.

00:14:29.000 This is not a joke anymore.

00:14:31.000 This is very important. 0.89

00:14:32.000 But especially, you can't just accept the garbage leadership that you've often had.

00:14:38.000 You have to, we have to press as a group and say, we demand leaders who will represent us and take the fight to the enemy and protect us from increasingly the criminalization of dissent. 0.77

00:14:51.000 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:14:53.000 And so many Republicans are just, well, it's going to go away.

00:14:56.000 They're going to stop coming after us.

00:14:58.000 They have no idea what they're dealing with.

00:15:00.000 They have no idea.

00:15:01.000 I just think deep down at a fundamental level, they might be able to admit to it, but they're just the eat me last Republicans.

00:15:07.000 Please just eat me last.

00:15:08.000 Just go after all the other people, not me.

00:15:11.000 The Democrats openly campaign like Letitia James when she ran for office in Attorney General of New York in putting political opponents in prison.

00:15:20.000 She ran for office saying, I'm going to lock Donald Trump up.

00:15:22.000 I'm paraphrasing, right?

00:15:24.000 But that was the essence of it.

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00:15:52.000 Because what we have to do, Charlie, as you well know, is take billions of dollars out from under woke capital and start rewarding any business that just refuses to go woke and that is worried about helping their fellow Americans and bringing back supply chains here.

00:16:08.000 That's exactly that's well said.

00:16:09.000 Matt Peterson, thank you so much for joining us.

00:16:11.000 Great as always.

00:16:12.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:18:17.000 I want to highlight for you here what I consider to be a legitimate conundrum, and I want your help with this.

00:18:26.000 What do you do if there is a candidate that you like that is receiving support in a primary from Democrats?

00:18:38.000 If you kind of look below the surface, this is a major story that is happening all across the country.

00:18:46.000 Since Democrats are so flush with cash, since Democrats have more money than they know what to do with, Democrats are now playing outwardly and publicly in Republican primaries.

00:19:01.000 And I'll be very honest, this is not as easy as you might think.

00:19:05.000 So on the surface, your initial reaction is probably similar to mine, that I wouldn't want to vote for a candidate that receives support from the Democrat Party, but it's actually more complicated than that.

00:19:17.000 So for example, in Pennsylvania, Doug Mastriano received major support from the Democrat Party.

00:19:27.000 Now, Doug Mastriano is no fan of Democrats.

00:19:30.000 In fact, Doug Mastriano was the Trump endorsed candidate.

00:19:33.000 And Doug Mastriano is a fabulous person.

00:19:37.000 So why is it that Democrats are weighing in on Republican primaries, spending huge money when they are candidates that are totally diametrically opposed to their values?

00:19:49.000 Well, the way that they look at it is they want to pick their candidate that they think that they can beat in the general.

00:19:56.000 And these are not small amounts of money.

00:19:59.000 This is happening in congressional races.

00:20:01.000 It's happening in governor's races.

00:20:02.000 It's happening in Senate races.

00:20:05.000 Claire McCaskill, who lost to the wonderful Josh Hawley in Missouri, said, quote, this type of intervention has to be done very carefully.

00:20:15.000 She's told NPR last month.

00:20:17.000 In 2012, Claire McCaskill's reelection campaign, you might remember, spent $1.7 million on ads against Todd Aiken, who then Todd Aiken had one of the worst gaffes in the history of modern Republican politics, who said something he should not have said, something of the sense of if something around rape, it was awful.

00:20:37.000 I'll think about it.

00:20:38.000 Accidental rape or something was awful.

00:20:39.000 It was terrible.

00:20:40.000 It shouldn't have been said.

00:20:41.000 And that lost him the Senate race in Missouri.

00:20:44.000 So this is a question I'd love to hear from you, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:20:48.000 Are you still planning or would you still vote for someone in a primary that receives money from the Democrat Party?

00:20:56.000 Now, I might say, Charlie, give me some examples.

00:20:58.000 Okay, I will.

00:20:59.000 So for example, there is a raging primary happening right now in western Michigan.

00:21:04.000 The snake, the serpent, Peter Meyer, who's no good, a total rhino, is running in Michigan, and he's the congressman.

00:21:13.000 He is being primaried by John Gibbs. 0.89

00:21:17.000 John Gibbs is a phenomenal black patriot.

00:21:21.000 He's terrific.

00:21:22.000 We had him on this program, endorsed by Turning Point Action, by the way.

00:21:26.000 But you know who now is now coming in with a massive ad buy to support John Gibbs?

00:21:32.000 The Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee.

00:21:35.000 Why?

00:21:36.000 Because they think John Gibbs will be easier to beat in a general election than Peter Meyer.

00:21:42.000 So the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee is coming in and said Gibbs, who has basisly questioned the results of the 2020 presidential election, was, quote, handpicked by Trump to run for Congress, adding that Gibbs is too conservative for Western Michigan.

00:21:57.000 And this is a serious quandary for me.

00:21:59.000 And I'd love your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:22:02.000 If the Democrats come in to support a candidate, how does that make you feel about your choice?

00:22:08.000 I'll be honest, it makes me, I'm torn.

00:22:12.000 If the Democrats so badly want a certain candidate and they're willing to put their money there.

00:22:19.000 Now, the counter argument that I think is rather compelling is that be careful what you wish for, Democrats, which I think is a good argument.

00:22:30.000 For example, back in the Florida governor's race, back in 2018, it was a two-way race between Congressman Ron DeSantis and I believe Agricultural Commissioner Adam Putnam.

00:22:43.000 Adam Putnam, nice man, but far more establishment than Ron DeSantis.

00:22:48.000 If the Democrats would have been doing the same thing they're doing now, they would have easily said, Ron DeSantis picked by Trump because they thought he would have been easier to defeat in a Republican, in a general election.

00:23:01.000 And Ron DeSantis squeezed by, squeaked by, and is now America's greatest governor.

00:23:07.000 What I'm getting at here, though, is something that I think we should all be aware of, which is when you make decisions in these primaries, you got to ask yourself the question, why would Democrats want that person to run?

00:23:20.000 Now, Democrats, I think, are making a mistake here.

00:23:24.000 Democrats, I think, are missing the target because I think they believe that some of these more conservative candidates are destined to automatically lose in a general election.

00:23:34.000 So I'll give you an example.

00:23:35.000 So in Western Michigan, this ad is running, paid for by Democrats in support of a Republican trying to gin up support for him.

00:23:44.000 Listen carefully, play cut 98.

00:23:47.000 John Gibbs is too conservative for West Michigan.

00:23:51.000 Handpicked by Trump to run for Congress, Gibbs called Trump the greatest president and worked in Trump's administration with Ben Carson.

00:23:59.000 Gibbs has promised to push that same conservative agenda in Congress.

00:24:04.000 A hard line against immigrants at the border and so-called patriotic education in our schools.

00:24:10.000 The Gibbs-Trump agenda is too conservative for West Michigan.

00:24:13.000 DCCC is responsible for the content of this advertising.

00:24:17.000 Now, that's not an attack ad.

00:24:18.000 How many, I mean, showing pictures of him with Trump, too conservative, wants to strike down an immigration.

00:24:24.000 Now, they're doing that to try to boost John Gibbs.

00:24:28.000 Now, it comes at a massive risk.

00:24:30.000 And some of you might believe, and I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com, let the Democrats spend money on our candidates.

00:24:36.000 By all means, make the Republican Party more conservative.

00:24:40.000 Now, this is actually coming under huge backlash in Democrat circles.

00:24:46.000 It's very controversial.

00:24:48.000 TheGuardian.com reports Democrats split by boost bid to boost election denier in Michigan Republican primary.

00:24:58.000 And so it's not very clear-cut.

00:25:00.000 I can see it both ways.

00:25:01.000 Some of us might think, like, hey, if they want to come in and support the people that we like, more power to them.

00:25:06.000 Be careful what you wish for.

00:25:07.000 You're going to regret it.

00:25:08.000 All the while, doesn't that feel a little dirty to go receive Democrat support for a certain candidate?

00:25:14.000 But I think the operative way to answer the question is why?

00:25:20.000 Why are Democrats doing this?

00:25:22.000 They're doing this because these are actually the candidates that they fear the most.

00:25:29.000 In a bizarre and ironic way, they're deploying resources to support the people that if they actually end up winning, could actually end up having the greatest amount of impact.

00:25:41.000 Why would they run ads for John Gibbs?

00:25:43.000 Because Peter Meyer is not a threat to them.

00:25:47.000 Is that Peter Meyer is actually an ally?

00:25:50.000 That they aren't that worried about Peter Meyer.

00:25:53.000 Peter Meyer squeaks by like whatever.

00:25:55.000 But they think that John Gibbs would be easier to beat in a general election.

00:26:00.000 I want your thoughts.

00:26:01.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:26:06.000 And we're getting a lot of emails on this.

00:26:10.000 Raymond says this, Charlie, if your competitor is making mistakes, do not interrupt them.

00:26:16.000 That's really wise.

00:26:21.000 It goes both ways, though, because we also don't want to lose in the general election either.

00:26:26.000 Now, I'm under the belief that you got to nominate the most conservative candidate that can win.

00:26:31.000 Know the district, know the state, and generally, almost always as a rule of thumb, if the media says they're too conservative, that means they're probably right over the mark of what you actually should have.

00:26:44.000 But this is not just happening in one area.

00:26:46.000 This is happening also in California.

00:26:49.000 It's happened in Colorado.

00:26:50.000 It happened in Maryland.

00:26:51.000 It happened, as I mentioned, in Pennsylvania.

00:26:54.000 Democrats, the new Democrat strategy right now is to deploy resources early against candidates that they think are easier to beat.

00:27:07.000 Look, every election in some sense is a base election in a post-Trump era in most districts.

00:27:13.000 And I believe, after consideration and looking at all of this, I think Democrats are going to deeply regret the deployment of valuable resources in these primaries that will only elevate the more conservative grassroots candidate.

00:27:28.000 I think that their metrics are all wrong here.

00:27:31.000 Our base is animated.

00:27:32.000 We have the momentum.

00:27:34.000 I think the Democrats are making a massive and catastrophic mistake.

00:27:39.000 And I'm not going to be one to stop them here.

00:27:41.000 But albeit, it does make me feel a little bit, there's some murkiness to it when you see Democrats start running ads for Republicans.

00:27:49.000 It should make you pause.

00:27:50.000 Like, wait a second, that doesn't make any sense.

00:27:55.000 The Democrats think the more moderate candidate is harder to beat.

00:27:59.000 That's not always true.

00:28:01.000 If your base stays home, then you can lose very, very winnable races.

00:28:06.000 This is happening all across the country.

00:28:07.000 I want your thoughts.

00:28:08.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:28:09.000 If you found out a massive Democrat group is coming to support your preferred candidate, does that impact your choice?

00:28:17.000 Or does it reaffirm that they actually might be the biggest threat because they think it would be easier to beat in a general?

00:28:25.000 There are many examples of Republican establishment candidates that have lost over the last couple of years because the base stayed at home.

00:28:33.000 Martha McSally would be an example twice in Arizona, two winnable races. 1.00

00:28:41.000 We're blessed to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:28:45.000 Luke 12, 48 says, quote, to whom much has been given, much will be required.

00:28:49.000 We as Christians can shape our world.

00:28:51.000 One of these ways is how we steward our finances and our money.

00:28:54.000 If you have money and stocks, you have the power to affect change through your investments.

00:28:59.000 Jesus spoke about money in roughly 15% of his teachings and 11 out of 39 of his parables.

00:29:04.000 How do we follow his teachings about money?

00:29:06.000 Well, my friends at PAX Financial can help.

00:29:08.000 I've opened an account with them.

00:29:10.000 I think very highly of them.

00:29:11.000 They are fiduciaries that will make sure you have a responsible plan to retire.

00:29:15.000 I trust them with my money, and I hope you will as well.

00:29:18.000 But look, they will also help you invest in companies that align with your beliefs.

00:29:22.000 No companies that engage in pornography or in excessive drinking or in a degenerate lifestyle.

00:29:29.000 If you have $150,000 to invest, please text my name, Charlie, to the number 74868.

00:29:35.000 And even if you don't have $150,000, maybe they'll make an exception for you.

00:29:39.000 I don't know.

00:29:40.000 But just learn more about them.

00:29:41.000 Look, text Charlie to 74868.

00:29:44.000 Take advantage of the power to make a difference with your money.

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00:29:53.000 You've got a lot of interesting response here.

00:29:58.000 Roger says, hey, Charlie, thanks for all you do.

00:30:00.000 If people don't do their homework, don't let it affect your decision making.

00:30:04.000 It's simple.

00:30:05.000 Roger, Trump supporter. 0.50

00:30:07.000 Reed says, I don't care if Democrats win, same as a rhino anyway.

00:30:11.000 Vote for the good guy every time.

00:30:12.000 Don't vote for party rhinos with Democrats. 0.80

00:30:14.000 Same as Democrats while they're here. 0.95

00:30:16.000 They count on people voting party over logic.

00:30:20.000 Colleen says, I've often thought of registering as a Democrat to vote in their primaries for the same reason.

00:30:24.000 Western Michigan is very conservative.

00:30:26.000 It's often considered part of the Bible Belt.

00:30:27.000 That's right.

00:30:28.000 A lot of good Dutch folks out there.

00:30:29.000 I love Western Michigan.

00:30:31.000 Holland, Michigan is great.

00:30:34.000 It's literally called Holland for a reason.

00:30:36.000 Got a lot of immigrants from the Netherlands.

00:30:38.000 Got to love the Dutch.

00:30:39.000 Fabulous people.

00:30:40.000 I have a lot of friends that live out there.

00:30:42.000 Greg says, Charlie, I see it this way.

00:30:44.000 It doesn't impact my choice.

00:30:45.000 It just proves to me that there is a uniparty. 0.99

00:30:48.000 Think of it this way.

00:30:48.000 The DNC and RNC prefer the establishment candidate over America First.

00:30:52.000 I'm overfalling for the argument that conservatives can't win.

00:30:54.000 I prefer to watch Democrats destroy the world, then continue to be stabbed in the back by Republicans, helping them do so.

00:31:02.000 I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:06.000 I don't love doing the I told you so segments, but there is definitely, and tragically and unfortunately, the need to just kind of give a little bit of an update of something I find to be morally reprehensible and also something that is just kind of getting swept under the rug.

00:31:24.000 We came out early, first and foremost.

00:31:26.000 We are very clear on moral terms that Vladimir Putin is a thug. 0.94

00:31:29.000 You can call him a war criminal. 0.83

00:31:30.000 You can say all these different things.

00:31:32.000 He should not have invaded Ukraine.

00:31:34.000 Invading a sovereign country is not defendable, period.

00:31:38.000 Especially a stronger country invading a smaller, weaker country.

00:31:42.000 However, we've been very clear on this program that Western intervention into Ukraine through funding and arms and weapons is a big mistake.

00:31:51.000 There are several thought crimes that could be said about Ukraine.

00:31:54.000 We had this conversation with Senator Kramer, very respectful, but it was a disagreement.

00:31:58.000 And Senator Scott from Florida, very respectful, but a disagreement.

00:32:01.000 That eastern Ukraine should have had its own elections, of which the people in eastern Ukraine are ethnically Russian.

00:32:08.000 They speak Russian, and this entire conflict could have been avoided. 0.56

00:32:13.000 Many senators will say, well, Charlie, we can't allow Russia to border NATO.

00:32:17.000 They're already bordering NATO.

00:32:19.000 There is a sliver of land called Kalingrad Oblast, of which there's a million people and a military base that already borders Poland.

00:32:27.000 It's its own island of a nation, you could say.

00:32:29.000 It borders Lithuania and Poland, and that completely destroys the argument that Russia can't border a NATO country.

00:32:36.000 They're already bordering a NATO country.

00:32:38.000 The entire Western fascination with helping the corrupt Ukrainian government, in our personal opinion, has always been unclear of what success looks like, has turned into a massive funding trough, all the while having sympathy and having support for the Ukrainian people.

00:32:54.000 This recent development that we have seen shows the following: that despite $56 billion being spent by the American government to Ukraine, of which we questioned on this show, and we were one of the only shows to do so, alongside Tucker Carlson and a couple others, has showed the following: the ruble is soaring, and Putin is stronger than ever.

00:33:15.000 Our sanctions have backfired.

00:33:17.000 Simon Jenkins wrote rights for the Guardian.com.

00:33:21.000 The more money we have put into Ukraine, Russia is richer than ever before.

00:33:25.000 Putin is more popular than ever before.

00:33:27.000 Putin is stronger domestically than ever before.

00:33:30.000 And there is more suffering in Ukraine than ever before.

00:33:32.000 The tragic suffering and the plight of the Ukrainian people.

00:33:36.000 War is not something to joke around with.

00:33:38.000 Yet, Western forces, led by America, we've been pouring money into Ukraine and seemingly indifferent about the civilian suffering, saying we just have to keep going till we defeat Russia. 0.57

00:33:49.000 Newsflash, the only way you defeat Russia is if we put 400,000 American ground troops in Ukraine and be willing to put up to 4 million, potentially getting into a nuclear war, and then maybe we could push them back to a border, of which is artificially drawn as is.

00:34:02.000 Is that a cost that you want to be able to endure?

00:34:05.000 The lack of prudence and wisdom when it has come to this situation is maddening.

00:34:10.000 But I want to tell you what really frustrated me.

00:34:14.000 I saw this Vogue magazine cover. 1.00

00:34:17.000 The front page of Vogue, Olena Zelenska, Vladimir Zelensky, and Olena Zelenska, while Ukrainian citizens are being massacred, they are refugees.

00:34:33.000 They cannot find food. 0.89

00:34:34.000 They can't find water.

00:34:37.000 The tragedy of war continues.

00:34:40.000 Zelensky finds time to go pose with the hair perfectly done and the perfect lighting for not the Wall Street Journal or not the New York Times, no, but for Vogue, which is a fashion magazine. 0.51

00:34:55.000 While the people of Ukraine have become refugees, our money is funding a photo shoot in Kyiv.

00:35:03.000 And there's this picture of the first lady surrounded by what could only be called their bags. 0.98

00:35:12.000 They're sandbags.

00:35:13.000 Thank you.

00:35:14.000 They're sandbags.

00:35:15.000 And she has her hands crossed.

00:35:17.000 This is nothing short of a propaganda photo campaign.

00:35:21.000 And for every single Ukrainian citizen that has suffered, this is an open and public middle finger to all of you. 0.97

00:35:31.000 The Zelenskys are able to do a photo shoot glamorizing their struggle. 0.61

00:35:39.000 The people of Ukraine continue to falter. 0.88

00:35:42.000 What is it about these photo shoots that are so necessary?

00:35:46.000 Fauci does it, Zelensky does it.

00:35:50.000 And it's also a throbbing middle finger to America that is funding this entire thing.

00:35:56.000 We don't even know what's happened to the weapons.

00:35:59.000 What we do know, though, is Zelensky has the time to pose with his wife, not in a regular news magazine, but in a fashion magazine.

00:36:12.000 That should fire you up.

00:36:14.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:15.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:18.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:36:19.000 God bless.

00:36:23.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 30, 2022

Charlie's Tragic "I Told You So" with Matt Peterson

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