00:00:38.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:46.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:21.000And they are doing what I believe is one of the most difficult things for a young person to do in America, which is to vocally state your beliefs against what is popular and what is considered to be the prevailing kind of wisdom of the age or lack of wisdom, quite honestly.
00:01:42.000As young conservatives, you're basically saying, I don't care if I'm going to be smeared or slandered, if somebody's going to call me names.
00:02:59.000Maybe it's because there might be something to our belief system that makes me want to actually fight for it.
00:03:05.000That I believe it so much because of what is good, true, and beautiful, and because of the facts and the evidence and the reason and the history behind it.
00:03:49.000I think that some divisions are actually healthy to actually see where each side stands and be able to draw those lines and be able to say, you know, that actually is my viewpoint.
00:03:59.000But there are five things that I've come with tonight that I think are really important to show the difference between what I as a conservative or we as people that believe in the natural law or people that believe in what would be considered classical conservatism versus kind of this new phenomenon of postmodernism, post-structuralism, you call it leftism or liberalism.
00:04:20.000And the term woke, by the way, is a catch-all term.
00:04:26.000It actually comes from a belief that you have now been able to wake up to all the systemic injustice and oppression around you.
00:04:34.000And now you are enlightened enough to be able to see that there is racism around everywhere and that at that moment you're woke.
00:04:41.000I honestly think it's somewhat helpful to now have a word other than liberal or left to describe the most insane things that are happening.
00:04:51.000The Toronto Raptors are a national basketball team, obviously, and they do this video for Woman's Month or Woman's Week or whatever it is, right?
00:05:00.000And they're just kind of off-the-cuff social media video.
00:05:03.000You've seen those kind of promo videos, and they play them kind of during halftime or, you know, during timeouts.
00:05:08.000And, you know, they say, okay, why do you guys appreciate the women in your life?
00:05:24.000The Toronto Raptors published that video and quickly were forced to take down that video and issue a multi-paragraph apology, groveling, that's saying that this is not true.
00:05:47.000I mean, no better way to radicalize National Basketball Association players to being right-wingers than being like, no, no, actually, you're too dumb to think that only women can become pregnant.
00:05:58.000And it's one thing to believe an insane thing.
00:06:02.000What's different, though, is to force us to believe it and not be able to challenge it.
00:06:08.000And I'm not going to put up with that, and you shouldn't either.
00:06:11.000When this is how you know these ideas are so poisonous and awful, is that they could have let the video play.
00:06:21.000And then why don't we hear from all the experts that could tell us that what the basketball player said was wrong, where he literally just said, they're the only ones that can procreate.
00:06:34.000That's not true in the world of the woke because they believe men can become pregnant and birthing people and all that sort of thing, right?
00:06:40.000And so, and that was so offensive, they had to then use force to take it down.
00:06:44.000And then, of course, you must then apologize.
00:06:46.000Even though you're not sorry, that's what's so interesting: I think if you actually are sorry in life, you should apologize.
00:06:52.000Here's a good rule for life: never apologize for if you did not do something wrong and someone is demanding an apology from you.
00:07:13.000Well, okay, but I said that only women can become pregnant.
00:07:16.000I have so many examples of this, by the way.
00:07:18.000For example, Hershey's Chocolate in the just the last couple weeks, which is, again, not exactly I would consider to be a company at the top of the list of, you know, political activism.
00:07:30.000But Hershey's comes out with a dude that is appropriating womanhood and is like dancing around and frolicking and says, you know, being a woman to me means this.
00:07:41.000It's like a man with long hair telling us, and he's like, go buy Hershey's chocolate.
00:07:46.000And I have a deeper theory about this that I think is really important, which is the MBA example aside, but certainly with Hershey's and definitely with the NFL and definitely with some other companies, I think these companies use the woke stuff as a way to distract us from the bad stuff these companies are actually doing.
00:08:03.000For example, maybe it's not a good thing to give eight-year-olds chocolate and corn syrup.
00:08:09.000But Hershey's doesn't want you talking about that because they're cool because they have men frolicking around as women.
00:08:13.000I think the woke thing serves as almost a smokescreen and a veneer and a camouflage from us actually criticizing some of these companies and organizations from the legitimate damage they're doing to, I don't know, contribute to childhood obesity.
00:08:26.000I mean, again, Hershey's, I love chocolate, you probably love chocolate.
00:08:29.000But of all the things I would think that Hershey would be very worried about, I didn't think it would be their gender politics.
00:08:35.000I just don't think they would weigh in on that.
00:08:37.000But they do that because they think they can be immune to the pressure from the activist class if they put out those sort of weird infomercials.
00:08:45.000The NFL is the same thing, by the way.
00:08:47.000These nauseating end zones end racism, like all this stuff.
00:08:50.000The NFL just doesn't want you to talk about concussions.
00:09:04.000I think we've got to figure out a way to try to limit concussions and actually have players not be penalized for actually sitting weeks out, like Tua, you know, was totally mistreated with the Miami Dolphins this last season.
00:09:14.000But the NFL doesn't want you talking about that because the NFL instead would say, well, we're enlightened because we have the gay flag or whatever in our end zone and we're going to end racism.
00:09:42.000And you guys can disagree on this, but I actually think these, even if you disagree with everything I stand for and everything that we believe at Turning Point USA, I think these five differences are actually, these are facts of the distinctions between the divide, the majority divide.
00:10:00.000You might be, you know, so these are general kind of categories of five things that I think that are differences between someone who thinks more on the conservative side or someone who would self-identify on the American left.
00:10:13.000And the first of which is really important, which is, do you believe that there is or an ability to believe in absolute truth?
00:10:21.000Do you believe that there is truth that might transcend your own opinions?
00:10:30.000I think the further we've gotten away from our Christian roots, the more unhappy, less joyful, more miserable, and violent our country has become.
00:10:38.000It's not a popular thing to say in America, but it's true, so you could take it for whatever it's worth.
00:10:43.000But in secular society, in the Bible, it says, very famous verse, and man did whatever is right in his own eyes, right?
00:10:49.000Basically saying, you want moral chaos, you have subjectivity.
00:10:53.000I'm going to do whatever I want whenever I want to do it because I'm the most important thing.
00:10:57.000That's a very modern way to view your existence, by the way.
00:11:02.000Instead, the more traditional way, which I think is more healthy and actually anchored in wisdom, is that, okay, I do exist, but I'm made in the image of a creator that is much more powerful and is actually divine and I am not.
00:11:16.000And I should first care about my obligations and my duty and my service more so than my own personal feelings or my own personal opinions.
00:11:28.000That's a lot more important than thinking you're the most important thing in the world.
00:11:31.000In fact, I think it actually creates unhappier people.
00:11:35.000And I'll hear all the time, people will say, Charlie, there is no such thing as absolute truth.
00:11:40.000The only thing is your own personal perspective and/or power dynamics.
00:11:45.000Not only is this a problem when you play it out in kind of just utilitarian ways, because eventually somebody's going to be in charge, okay?
00:11:54.000Eventually, somebody's truth is going to reign supreme.
00:11:56.000And history shows us that if you believe that there's no absolute truth, you're going to get a Stalin who's willing to use brutal power to eventually get to the top of that hierarchy.
00:12:05.000And nobody wants to live in that country.
00:12:11.000The idea of having absolute truth is basic in speech.
00:12:16.000If you do not have agreed-upon terms or vocabulary where we can have discussion, then what exactly are how are we ever supposed to remedy our differences?
00:12:26.000This is why I am so, at times I get accused as being obtuse, which I consider to be a compliment, so firm about language precision when it comes to sex and gender.
00:12:39.000Because if you all of a sudden are allowing words to mean whatever those words want them to mean, then you no longer have the ability to be able to remedy your differences with somebody you disagree with.
00:12:50.000You're talking on different planets, and boy, is that not the case in America today.
00:13:05.000For half the country, they see what happened on January 6th, and they say that is a violent overthrow of our government.
00:13:12.000When reviewing the 45,000 hours of footage, I don't think it was a noble thing, obviously, to go smash windows and to try to harm police officers, but largely it was a bunch of buffoons that were kind of like amateurville USA that had really some planning to no planning whatsoever.
00:13:31.000And if that's an insurrection, it's the first insurrection in American history where the guards are showing the insurrectionists around the place they're trying to take over.
00:13:39.000Here, here's the windows, and this would that they're docents at a museum.
00:13:43.000That's not an insurrection, that's a tour guide.
00:13:46.000And yet they keep on repeating this in the last couple days: insurrection is that's really bad because then it dilutes the term.
00:13:53.000I'll give you another example: racism.
00:14:06.000Something that no matter how hard they try, they can't break outside of that label.
00:14:10.000That is stereotyping somebody's actions and judging them and putting them in a box before they've ever, ever done something to you.
00:14:16.000That is evil, it's wrong, it's terrible.
00:14:18.000But however, if you say racism in America, some people on the left will say, but black people can't be racist.
00:14:26.000This is a predominant prevailing view, or they say, well, white people are racist no matter what.
00:14:30.000When basically the classical definition of racism is one that we should not just accept, that should be predominant, which is any person of any race could be racist at any time.
00:14:41.000We're actually not that racist of a country.
00:14:44.000We're actually the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:14:47.000We're actually rather decent to each other.
00:14:49.000Considering we have every nation represented on the planet, every language spoken, we've let more people into our country than any other country ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:15:00.000In fact, we have a supply and demand problem with racism.
00:15:03.000That if you are a famous, soon-to-be-failed actor in Chicago, you have to fake your own hate crime.
00:15:09.000There's so little racism that you got to go all of a sudden, put like a noose around your neck and act as if, oh my goodness, they're hunting me down in the streets and screaming, this is MAGA country.
00:15:19.000That's how you know you don't live in a racist country.
00:15:21.000You have to fake your own hate crimes.
00:15:23.000And by the way, you do it really sloppily and you think people are going to believe you.
00:15:57.000It's like, don't you think you take it off?
00:15:59.000Like, that's, you're wearing it like it's a costume because it was a costume, okay?
00:16:05.000So when words start to mean something that they don't actually mean, then you get into power dynamics and that's really bad.
00:16:11.000So, but deeper than that, my challenge to you, even if you don't think there is absolute truth, I challenge you to at least entertain the idea that there is absolute truth.
00:16:23.000Because otherwise, you actually then self-contradicting your own viewpoint, which one of my favorite dialogues I've ever had with a student is they say, Charlie, there is no such thing as absolute truth.
00:18:01.000But largely in American life today, and especially, I think, in the viewpoint of what we call the wokeys, it is hyper-emotional and very little factual.
00:18:13.000So for example, when I will go on a college campus and they'll say, you know, Charlie, you cannot be a black person and walk down the street without the police coming and gunning you down.
00:18:22.000It's super frequent, it's super common.
00:18:24.000But then you use your reason, you say, well, how common is it?
00:18:26.000How many unarmed black men are killed by the police every single year?
00:18:30.000And estimates, they'll say 1,000, 2,000, 5,000, 10,000, 50,000.
00:18:51.000Out of millions of police interactions every single year, and a very, very difficult job that keeps us all safe.
00:18:58.000Are we really supposed to disassemble modern society because of 15 examples that are very subject to error when emotions are heightened and you're in the heat of the moment?
00:19:09.000See, that's using your reason against emotion to actually come to a conclusion.
00:19:14.000And the summer of 2020, Floyd Apalooza, we decided to allow our emotion to literally burn down our civilization.
00:19:23.000We should never let that happen again.
00:19:25.000Because the reason should have been, actually, we're not a racist country.
00:19:28.000There's no excuse for what happened in Minneapolis.
00:20:04.000They're totally done with that one, by the way, because they can't tell you what a woman is.
00:20:08.000But the big one that they're really driving home is race, right?
00:20:12.000Which is constantly trying to tell people that there is something that you have a disadvantage against you, that you have a barrier, that you have a limitation based on something you can't change.
00:20:23.000I think this is one of the most immoral and evil things that you can tell a young black person in America or a young Hispanic person or anyone in ethnic minority.
00:20:32.000If you're telling them out of the gate that there are these boogeyman barriers that might prevent them from flourishing in success and prosperity, by definition, that student will be less likely to take a risk, to engage in self-discipline, and to try to get to a higher place of flourishing.
00:20:48.000You're basically telling them the game is so rigged against you, the white man, the structural structure against you, that you shouldn't do that.
00:20:57.000You might get gypped here and there by a jerk, but we actually largely live in a decent country, and you're going to find some decent people.
00:21:03.000And if you don't like that decent person, quit and find a decent person.
00:21:10.000And if you do that, you can succeed in this country.
00:21:12.000That's a much better message than telling everybody that they're a victim simply because of the color of their skin.
00:21:18.000And that is a massive divide as we see manifest in our country today.
00:21:25.000Okay, I could talk about that one forever, but I'm going to go quick.
00:21:28.000Number four, which is probably one of my favorites, and it should be, honestly, if I was king for a day, that would be really something, I got to tell you.
00:21:37.000If I was king for a day, I would make it a nationwide, I would make it a requirement that every class in college or high school at least debates, thinks, and reads on the topic of whether or not man is basically good or basically evil.
00:21:53.000This is one of the most fundamental questions when you talk about politics and life.
00:21:58.000It informs almost every other question when it comes to politics.
00:22:03.000Now, spoiler alert: if you're a Christian, you cannot believe man is basically good.
00:23:03.000In fact, in Genesis 3, not to talk too much about the Bible because some of you might find it unpersuasive, even though it built the civilization you're in, but that's a separate issue.
00:23:12.000Cain, one of the most amazing dialogues is Cain talking to God, where God asked him, what happened to your brother?
00:23:20.000And Cain did not immediately say, well, I murdered him, of course.
00:23:25.000Instead, his answer, and I'm just paraphrasing from memory, it was actually somewhat defensive.
00:23:30.000Basically, it was like, What am I, my brother's keeper?
00:23:33.000And there's a lot of different ways to read that verse, but basically, that's it.
00:23:37.000That's that's plain defense because I believe God did put an element of conscience in every single human being.
00:24:33.000If people are naturally good, then you can excuse all the injustice in the world.
00:24:40.000If people are naturally not good, then the problem is very simple: make them better, understand their nature.
00:24:47.000You see, when a college student believes they're naturally good and they know they're not, it actually can be very tormenting to them.
00:24:54.000Instead, we should say, Your nature is rather crummy, and if you work hard at it enough, you can actually become a pretty good person.
00:25:02.000Instead, if you tell a 19-year-old your nature is perfect, they become an activist because they think everything wrong about the world is outside of them.
00:25:14.000Instead, you should say the biggest problem and the biggest challenge you have every single day is the person you see in the mirror.
00:25:29.000How about you make your bed, shave, and stop smelling like a mess before you tell me that America is systemically racist?
00:25:36.000We used to tell our children in America, we used to tell our children, you got a lot of problems, and America is great.
00:25:46.000Now we tell our children, America has a lot of problems, and you are great.
00:25:51.000And the result is the most miserable, suicidal, depressed, confused generation in American history.
00:25:59.000Because we've taught them that their past is crummy, no ability to improve their current life unless they tear everything down around them.
00:26:08.000That creates activists and arsonists, not good people.
00:26:11.000Okay, finally, one that I could go on for at some length here, which I think is really important, which is what is man's relationship with nature?
00:26:19.000And this is one that is going to just be the number one issue that I don't know tonight the questions that we'll get, but I get this question probably more than anything else.
00:26:27.000Charlie, what do you think about climate change and all this?
00:26:29.000And I'm happy to discuss all of it, but you cannot even begin to get into that debate until you could tell me on moral terms what you believe man versus nature and how they should coexist.
00:26:41.000I believe in a hierarchy of man of nature.
00:26:44.000I believe nature is there for us as human beings to be able to use to put human beings first.
00:26:50.000I do not believe we're here to worship nature.
00:26:52.000I do not believe we are here to get some sort of, let's say, religious kick out of nature.
00:26:59.000I think nature is made by God, who is outside of nature, for man who is above nature to be able to flourish.
00:27:08.000Well, if you believe that nature and man are equals, or even worse, if you believe that nature is above man, well, then all of a sudden, you then have an argument to shut down industrial production, to limit human population.
00:27:23.000You see, earth worship is nothing new.
00:27:26.000It is coming back, though, in great, in great detail.
00:27:30.000The question in front of us should be, and this is what I always ask of the climate change people: is would you believe the same policy prescriptions that you have to, you know, some of them, there's some nuances here, right?
00:27:42.000But get rid of fossil fuels, you know, widespread electric vehicles, all this stuff.
00:27:47.000Would you still believe that if you believe that human beings actually have a hierarchy over nature?
00:27:54.000And you might say, well, that's insignificant because I want to save the environment to be able to save human beings.
00:27:58.000Okay, so that's actually a good argument if it was true.
00:28:03.000If you can buy, if you can get me to buy into quote-unquote scientific consensus after everything I've been told by the scientific elites over the last three years has been proven to be a synthetic, fabricated lie.
00:28:16.000Whether it be the virus came from a bat in the Himalayan mountains and kicking me off Twitter for mentioning it, shutting down kids and putting on masks of which epidemiologically was one of the worst, stupidest things we could ever do to young teenagers, and then to force on an mRNA gene-altering shot onto a younger generation and tell them, if you don't get this, you don't go to college, you can't go to the military, you can't get a job, and then not even an apology from Fauci or Walensky or the people in charge.
00:28:44.000Yeah, excuse me while I say, yeah, you probably haven't earned my trust the last couple years.
00:28:49.000Like when you are really getting towards something, I think there actually might be an ulterior motive behind you.
00:28:54.000So man's relationship with nature is very important, and I believe you have to be able to express that on moral terms.
00:29:01.000Okay, I want to get to some questions, but let me close by saying this.
00:29:03.000I know a lot of you want me to talk about what's happening in the country right now.
00:29:07.000I kind of just did through, you know, in a separate way, obviously talking more about philosophy and all that.
00:29:13.000But tonight, I can see that it's, you know, somewhat of a conservative audience, and I appreciate that.
00:29:18.000If somebody comes to the line tonight and says something you disagree with or you find objectionable, please do not boo them or scorn them or say anything to them.
00:29:28.000I spend my life getting death threats from liberals, having to have arm protection 24/7 from the left.
00:29:35.000And the last thing I ever want is to be as nasty or disrespectful as the other side.
00:29:40.000So tonight, if you disagree, again, you can come to the front of the line and you can ask any question you want.
00:29:45.000You'll be given an opportunity and you'll be given a platform.
00:29:48.000But it does take some bravery and some gusto to get up and to ask me a question, especially if it's against a view I have.
00:29:56.000And so if that is the case, respect that.
00:29:59.000Even if you find the proposition they are putting forward laughable or silly, respect them during the question process.
00:31:56.000It certainly has radicalized me because it really makes me have bitter contempt for somebody that would ever want to harm a child, is harming children, or wants to make the country my daughter has to grow in any less free.
00:32:10.000So I want to win more than ever before.
00:32:19.000So I'm the president of the chapter at Moorhead State University, and we have had different events throughout the past semester, and our student government has kind of attacked us for it and tried to discriminate against us.
00:32:32.000So what is your advice to other chapters and other conservative organizations to kind of combat this political persecution from student governments?
00:32:44.000You have to use their own rules against them.
00:32:48.000And so that's an Alinsky rule, by the way.
00:32:51.000Use the enemy's own rules against them, which is if they have clauses in the student constitution or in the student bylaws or the university bylaws and they're discriminating against you or they're treating you differently, then use, then throw that book at them and be like, wait a second, we're allowed to do this.
00:33:06.000But the biggest thing I have to tell you is you have to have endurance and perseverance, right?
00:33:10.000It is not enough just to show up and hope you're treated well.
00:33:17.000You have to demand respectful treatment, right?
00:33:20.000But do it respectfully and do it with integrity and do it kindly.
00:33:24.000And at the same time, though, do not put up with them using their power against you because they don't see the world the way you do, right?
00:33:34.000And they're strengthened numbers and strength in community.
00:33:37.000And you also want to be annoying enough where eventually they just say yes and they make you go away.
00:34:29.000I find my beliefs easy to hold because I believe them in my soul.
00:34:34.000And I feel like a lot of conservatives are the same way.
00:34:39.000Your beliefs aren't subject to acceptance or disacceptance.
00:34:49.000Something else, and I mean, and honestly, if it were about what would be easy, would be if I wanted to make my life more comfortable, I would change and become conservative.
00:35:07.000Because my husband has been caught up in and has changed his way of thinking to be a conservative person over the past couple of years.
00:38:06.000And I get smeared, slandered, and so does the American right as somehow being anti-LGBT because I don't think a nine-year-old should be exposed to things that should be behind in the darkest depths of the human existence, right?
00:38:32.000So which side do you think the American right or the American left currently is doing a better job of protecting the idea of freedom of speech?
00:38:41.000Actually, they're both sucking pretty hardcore.
00:38:46.000They're both being absolutely horrible at it.
00:38:50.000How has the right been horrible at that?
00:39:06.000Do you think if a liberal came to speak at University of Kentucky, they'd give an open mic like I just did to a conservative and had a discussion like this?
00:39:15.000No, they wouldn't, because speech is not a left-wing value.
00:39:18.000That's why Chuck Schumer went on the Senate floor yesterday and called for the censorship of a cable television program.
00:39:24.000That is why they have to deploy shock troops called Antifa to go after everywhere I go.
00:39:29.000When I go to University of California Davis next week, there has to be 120 police officers because of the threats, the violent threats of liberals that want me dead, that want to disrupt our events.
00:39:39.000There are no right-wing hecklers that come to events like this.
00:39:42.000Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, myself, Candace Owens need 24-7, 365 armed security to prevent ourselves from the violent threats from the left.
00:39:53.000And so I think it's rather clear there's one side that is trying to do everything they can to shut one side up and one side that's trying to open up the marketplace of ideas.
00:40:02.000And I think that's rather self-evident.
00:40:04.000But I do want to thank you for coming here tonight and demonstrating.
00:40:07.000I totally disagree with everything you just said.
00:40:11.000I don't discount that you've received death threats or anything like that.
00:40:16.000Public approval polls show that a majority of liberals do not believe the First Amendment is absolute.
00:45:12.000And so the real question should be: why is it all of a sudden the new way of treating this, which is with chemical castration and extremely expensive drugs and pediatric gender surgery, better than maybe telling a 12-year-old, hey, you're a woman, you're going through puberty.
00:45:31.000Maybe let's have some counseling for six months or two years or three years before we, I don't know, make you go under with the knife and make you have irreversible damage.
00:45:42.000And so everything should be done with love and compassion.
00:45:45.000I think it's cruel and harsh and medieval to have teenagers, thousands of which every single year, have their breasts chopped off and are having mastectomies.
00:45:56.000I had an unbelievably powerful hour-long dialogue with a D-transitioner.
00:46:00.000By the way, we are about to see one of the saddest communities of people grow exponentially, which are D-transitioners.
00:46:07.000And like clockwork, you get administered testosterone, you get, all of a sudden you start to feel stronger, more mental clarity, but it has a plateau effect after three or four years.
00:46:18.000And you always think like you need more surgery and you need more surgery because if you think that's actually going to solve the problem, it probably isn't, because it's a much deeper identity problem that you're having, right?
00:46:29.000And so the way that it was actually solved successfully by counselors across the country was through cognitive behavioral therapy and going through a process of loving on the person enough to tell them the truth that they're actually not the thing that they think that they are.
00:46:43.000And here's the best example I have for this.
00:46:46.000It is not loving to always give a patient what they want.
00:46:51.000You do not give liposuction to somebody that has anorexia.
00:47:53.000So besides your organization and a few others, there's no so much involvement with the younger generation coming from Republicans and the GOP.
00:48:01.000Yes, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
00:48:03.000While I personally feel that the Democrats and the left specifically are doing a fabulous job at getting the young ones involved and they are much better organized, why do you think that is?
00:48:12.000And what can the Republicans and the GOP do going forward to get more engaged with the younger generation?
00:48:28.000My job is to have you resist the temptation of human nature to sit at home all day long and do weed and blame people for their problems and get free money.
00:48:37.000My job is actually to tell you to go do hard stuff that is infinitely more rewarding than blaming people for your problems.
00:49:58.000And all of a sudden we're like, well, you know, that is progress because even though he has a penis and he's in a female locker room, he identifies as a woman.
00:50:22.000Do you get to pick if you're tall, skinny, rich, successful, good grades?
00:50:28.000Or are we going to throw out all objective reality because we all of a sudden want to platform somebody's own identity crisis over what is actually materially true?
00:50:45.000Hey, my question is about your kid, or not necessarily your kid, but kids in general, on your opinion about homeschooling, private school, public school.
00:50:57.000And I asked specifically about your kid because it probably shows the most about what you actually want, you know.
00:51:03.000Yeah, we're already homeschooling, as I like to say, right?
00:51:07.000We're going through the Constitution ABCs.
00:51:09.000I'll tell you, that kid is going to know Madison from Jefferson to Jay and the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers by the age of three.
00:51:31.000And I know that some of you say, Charlie, oh, that's too harsh.
00:51:35.000I love her too much to allow a government school system that has repeatedly shown me institutionally through curriculum and practice that they do not care about the innocence of children.
00:51:44.000They're not concerned about the pursuit of beauty or virtue or goodness.
00:51:48.000It seems as if they're much more concerned about some ideological agenda.
00:51:51.000So that's what I'm doing personally, what you guys decide to do.
00:51:54.000I hope it works out for you and God bless you.
00:51:56.000And if you are homeschooling, I am a massive fan and appreciative of that.
00:52:00.000We need to have more people homeschooling in America.
00:52:33.000Classical education is the way the American founders were educated.
00:52:37.000You could do it bibliocentric, or you could do it, which I prefer, or you could do it Greek-centric, or I guess that would be Hellenistic-centric, I guess.
00:52:47.000I don't know if that's the right term.
00:52:49.000But basically, classical education gets students to think very deeply about the process of exploring truth from a young age.
00:52:57.000It is completely against industrial education, which came to really almost everybody here was probably educated industrially.
00:53:05.000They're going to be studying Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Augustine, Aquinas.
00:53:09.000The smartest, deepest kids that I've ever met were classically educated.
00:53:13.000And I mean, Hillsdale College is a classical education, and they've done a fabulous job of showing the world what's possible through a proper classical education.
00:53:30.000You said earlier that we should never apologize unless we have something to apologize for.
00:53:36.000My sister and I have grown up in a very conservative Christian environment, and that particular sister has now become very woke extremely on the matter of abortion.
00:53:46.000We have had a minor argument, and she's decided never to speak to me or my parents again.
00:53:53.000If I feel that I'm in the right, do I stand firm with my beliefs or do I apologize and try to save that relationship?
00:54:00.000No, you do not apologize, but you try to reconcile.
00:54:03.000You need to be actively trying to make sure the relationship stays alive.
00:54:07.000But do not apologize, because an apology means that you are then admitting that you had wrongdoing.
00:54:13.000Now, if you got heated or said something you regret, I don't know, maybe not.
00:54:27.000But you should be actively reaching out to try to make sure the bond between your sibling remains alive, because those can go very cold and it can go years and then decades, and that is a bad thing.
00:54:38.000You can have differing views with family members and still be on talking terms.
00:54:43.000It is a tragedy, though, and I'm sure it exists.
00:54:46.000But 99.9% of every example that I hear to the earlier question is liberals cutting off connection with conservative family members, not conservatives cutting off connection with liberal family members.
00:56:10.000Your parents are also, I don't know if they've told you this or not, but they would rather have you and your sister on good terms than them on good terms with their daughter.
00:56:20.000Nothing makes a parent angrier or more sad than when their kids don't talk.
00:56:28.000It's one thing for kids to get mad at parents.
00:56:30.000It breaks the heart of parents when their kids won't talk to each other.
00:56:34.000You say that all throughout the Bible.
00:57:34.000It's actually true because the woke is a legitimate threat against everything we love.
00:57:38.000But you're actually not going to be able to win hearts and minds long term unless you're able to articulate what you believe and why you believe it.
00:57:46.000And this is why I am an enthusiast for the American founding.
00:57:50.000I think the American founding needs to be the unifying call of the American right.
00:57:56.000The American founding was a call into the abyss that we demand self-government.
00:59:19.000They actually were faith-filled people.
00:59:21.00055 of 56 of the signers of the Declaration were Bible-believing church-attending Christians, but they understood biblical principles and relayed them directly into the most successful, longest-lasting constitutional project in world history.
00:59:34.000That's something I think as conservatives we should re-embrace, and that could be a vision that could keep us together the same way the left has been kept together.
01:00:20.000Outside of a couple campuses, you know, I have visited University of California, Berkeley, and have spoken there six times now, five or six times.
01:00:28.000And every time I go, I see a different type of student body.
01:00:35.000And I'll be very honest, I miss what I used to see.
01:00:39.000What I used to see when I used to go to University of California, Berkeley were students that were totally wrong, but they had energy and they were involved and they had spirit.
01:00:48.000And some of them were rather awful, but they weren't cynical.
01:00:54.000What bothers me in my recent visits to Berkeley is there is a kind of a malaise of cynicism.
01:01:00.000And I'm guessing you're seeing the same thing where people are like, what does it all matter?
01:01:18.000Hopefully when things start to get more real, and I mean, I don't know what could be more real than your salvation, but that's my own personal opinion, right?
01:01:26.000But you have to have ambassadors like we have at Turning Point USA that care.
01:01:30.000If you care, you can get other people to care.
01:01:32.000But if then you allow yourself to be impacted by the cynicism, then those ideas and those values will die.
01:01:38.000But understand that this Gen Z, I think I said this earlier, most suicidal, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted generation in history, incredibly cynical about all things politics, all thing government, all thing religion, least religious generation in history.
01:03:57.000So, I know like a big issue here in Kentucky is Rubbertown, which is located west of Louisville.
01:04:05.000So, how can we allow people to live in cities like this?
01:04:08.000I'm not sure if you're familiar with it.
01:04:09.000When this is not very, can you just give me this?
01:04:12.000Yeah, so essentially, there's industrial plants right next to neighborhoods, and cancer rates and health rates are dramatically worse here because of this.
01:04:20.000How can we let people live in these environments if we want man to be successful and throw and grow and grow here?
01:04:28.000Yeah, that's actually, I think we're going to agree because you're using really good facts that interest me, which is human cancer rates and human flourishing.
01:04:58.000And I'm going to take you at your word that it's legitimate.
01:05:02.000Then, the policy position should always be what is best for the human being, right?
01:05:07.000And this is something at times where conservatives are afraid to articulate it in that sense.
01:05:14.000But let me give you an example that prompted my dialogue, which is in California, there's massive droughts, massive, massive droughts, okay?
01:05:23.000And it could be solved in some sense if they would just open up some of the aqueducts and take some of the water actually from the Central Valley, but it might kill something called the Delta Smelt, which is a fish that no one's ever heard of and no one really cares about except radical environmentalists.
01:05:38.000And so, that's an example of putting an animal or a creature above human beings.
01:05:43.000Because, I mean, if you're talking about human beings being impacted, then you have my attention and my sympathy.
01:06:19.000And I think that this is actually a very interesting point of agreement, which is we put human beings first, right?
01:06:27.000And human beings, industry should serve human beings.
01:06:30.000Human beings should not serve industry.
01:06:32.000And as a conservative, it actually get pushback on that, right?
01:06:39.000People say, Well, Charlie, come on, what about markets first?
01:06:42.000I'm kind of a human beings first guy, right?
01:06:45.000Which is markets should serve human beings, human beings should not serve markets, right?
01:06:50.000And I'll use a separate example that I know a lot better, which is what happened in East Palestine, Ohio, is completely and totally unacceptable, right?
01:06:59.000From the environmental toxins and from Norfolk Southern.
01:07:03.000And so, what you'll find from me is I am a free market capitalist guy, but I'm not an automatic default cheerleader for every corporate interest.
01:07:10.000I'm not, nor do I think you should be as a conservative.
01:07:13.000Do I think there's sometimes more to the story?
01:08:46.000I don't have a good answer for you on what to do with relocated teachers after they do that, except that if your kid is in government schools, you have to hawk those schools, right?
01:08:58.000Hawk the curriculum, hawk the teachers.
01:09:00.000And I also want to acknowledge: when I say I'm going to homeschool my kids and go to private school, not every family has the income to be able to do that, or the private schools that have the accessibility.
01:09:12.000And so then you got to fight, which is exactly what you're doing.
01:09:33.000I'm a freshman here at University of Kentucky.
01:09:35.000And today we had somebody come and claim to be a Christian and was basically protesting homosexuality and things like that.
01:09:44.000But along the way, what I think was maybe meant with good intention started becoming them saying to the crowd, you're going to hell and you're going to hell.
01:11:13.000But my heart is to try to get people, and I love people, that are made in the image of the Creator to be able to live the way that I believe they're best suited to live.
01:11:22.000And I'm afraid some people do more damage than good in that regard, based on the example that you've delivered there.
01:11:28.000And it sounds like that got very emotional and very personal, right?
01:11:33.000And so I don't know if that fully answers your question, but you can also see lots and lots of videos of me dealing with those kind of discussions there, right?
01:12:29.000This is where my friend Ben Shapiro and I disagree, right?
01:12:32.000So if you asked Ben Shapiro this question, Ben would say, just write what the professor wants to hear and get out of there as quickly as possible, right?
01:12:45.000I think you've got to tell the truth always, no matter what age or circumstance or environment that you're in.
01:12:50.000If that means you might get a lower grade, then so be it.
01:12:53.000If that means that you might get treated harshly, I believe the spoken truth is important for every person to do wherever they are constantly and relentlessly for the rest of their life.
01:13:03.000I don't think there should be an on and off switch based on like, well, I want a good grade or all that.
01:13:08.000But you must acknowledge that there will be a price and that you might not be treated fairly because of it.
01:13:38.000A fragile person, which many people on the left are fragile because they never have to defend their positions, will have a much harder time surviving in this world.
01:13:54.000As we become increasingly aware that wokeism is grounded in an ancient esoteric religion, in a cult, how do we prevent it from falling under the protections of the First Amendment?
01:14:10.000As it's antithetical to humanity, as some other religions may also be?
01:14:20.000The issue is our judges are so screwed up, I could see them probably issuing some opinion.
01:14:25.000What you mentioned is really important, which is that the elements of wokeism are very similar to river civilization paganism, right?
01:14:33.000Whether it be earth worship or whether it be any of these different things, even from the, it's almost like pseudo-alchemy and Gnosticism.
01:14:42.000And if you go read the original books on Gnosticism and Hermeticism, it's about how you're able to change your being based on your own will and your own feeling.
01:14:51.000Now, 20 years ago, you guys would have laughed me offstage if I would have said that it would be the predominant view of public American life, that they could change your own existence based on your thoughts.
01:15:04.000They're like, oh yeah, of course you could just change.
01:15:06.000That's a Gnostic belief is what it is.
01:15:10.000I don't know how to protect against it, except we have to defeat them.
01:15:14.000I mean, I could see that they would have to file themselves as an official religion, which there is a threshold, thankfully, the federal government has.
01:15:21.000It means you have to have a book, well, they have white fragility.
01:17:59.000You need to tell your story to as many people as possible.
01:18:02.000You need to wake up Americans to how bad things can actually get.
01:18:06.000They have no idea, first of all, what happened or happens in North Korea, and they have no idea, largely in this, they kind of hear stories about California, about how wretched that hellscape is actually becoming.
01:18:17.000And so personal, first-hand testimony from people like you is incredibly important.
01:18:22.000And you showing up to this event, listening to our podcast, and supporting us is incredibly helpful and important.
01:18:32.000This is one of the reasons why that the Chinese Communist Party has been successful is because there's no generations left in China that have memories of freedom.
01:18:43.000Not a single person that remembers what it was like to not be under Maoist CCP reign.
01:18:50.000And it's equally as important to have memories of how bad things can actually become.
01:18:55.000And that's why your voice is so incredibly important because we hear from left-wing activists, oh, things can't get that bad.
01:19:02.000You know, we need more government or power.
01:19:04.000You could be a first-hand testament to that.
01:19:06.000One thing that I have noticed is: if anyone here can think of another place that you can escape to for freedom, I'd like to know, because I think that we're it.