The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Speaks LIVE From the University of Kentucky

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:02.000 My speech at the University of Kentucky.

00:00:04.000 I take some questions and it's fun.

00:00:06.000 And also, five things that distinguish the left from the right.

00:00:11.000 The wokies from the Patriots. 0.91

00:00:14.000 Thanks you'll enjoy this speech.

00:00:15.000 No advertisers, so please consider supporting us at charliekirk.com slash support.

00:00:19.000 That is charliekirk.com slash support.

00:00:23.000 Buckle up everybody.

00:00:24.000 Here we go.

00:00:25.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:27.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:29.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:32.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:36.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:37.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:38.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:46.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:55.000 That's why we are here.

00:00:58.000 Hello, everybody.

00:00:59.000 Great to be here.

00:01:00.000 Thank you for taking time tonight.

00:01:02.000 We're going to have some fun, I hope.

00:01:04.000 And I want to thank the university for making this easy.

00:01:07.000 I don't say that about every college I visit.

00:01:10.000 And so this is great, and I appreciate it.

00:01:12.000 And I want to thank our amazing Turning Point USA leaders that helped put this all together.

00:01:17.000 They deserve a lot of credit.

00:01:21.000 And they are doing what I believe is one of the most difficult things for a young person to do in America, which is to vocally state your beliefs against what is popular and what is considered to be the prevailing kind of wisdom of the age or lack of wisdom, quite honestly.

00:01:40.000 And that's a big deal.

00:01:42.000 As young conservatives, you're basically saying, I don't care if I'm going to be smeared or slandered, if somebody's going to call me names.

00:01:49.000 I'm going to stand for what is true.

00:01:51.000 And there's a price to that.

00:01:53.000 And even here in the mostly conservative South, I'm told that there's a fair amount of liberals actually in Lexington.

00:01:59.000 Maybe not.

00:02:00.000 Maybe that's not true.

00:02:01.000 We'll find out, I guess, later tonight.

00:02:04.000 But certainly on college campuses, I bet that's true.

00:02:07.000 But it's a big deal when I see young people that are saying, I know the price, I know the cost.

00:02:14.000 And there's a great question that I always ask liberals that come to these events.

00:02:20.000 And it's just very simple, which is, is it difficult to hold the beliefs that you have?

00:02:27.000 And the answer is no.

00:02:29.000 I mean, if you are a BLM, LGBTQ activist, that's not difficult.

00:02:33.000 You're accepted by professors.

00:02:35.000 You're accepted by the administration.

00:02:36.000 You know what is difficult?

00:02:37.000 It's difficult at times to be a turning point USA leader on campus.

00:02:41.000 You're graded differently.

00:02:42.000 You're looked at differently.

00:02:44.000 You're even called names.

00:02:45.000 And therefore, the question then should be, why do you think I keep on believing in conservative ideas even though it's very difficult?

00:02:57.000 It doesn't make my life easier.

00:02:59.000 Maybe it's because there might be something to our belief system that makes me want to actually fight for it.

00:03:05.000 That I believe it so much because of what is good, true, and beautiful, and because of the facts and the evidence and the reason and the history behind it.

00:03:13.000 And so I'm super inspired by that.

00:03:16.000 I was traveling here with a friend of mine, Tom Lewis, who's here somewhere.

00:03:19.000 And I asked him the question when I ask most people before I speak, which is, hey, what do you want me to talk about?

00:03:24.000 And he said, Charlie, I think it would be helpful if you laid out the differences between the wokeys and conservatives. 0.65

00:03:32.000 The wokeys is like a catch-all term, right? 0.71

00:03:34.000 Basically, people who are, let's say, as far away from enlightenment to believe that men can become pregnant.

00:03:40.000 You know, that's kind of a catch-all term.

00:03:42.000 But I think there's really important because people say, Charlie, we are so divided in America.

00:03:47.000 I think there's some truth to that.

00:03:49.000 I think that some divisions are actually healthy to actually see where each side stands and be able to draw those lines and be able to say, you know, that actually is my viewpoint.

00:03:59.000 But there are five things that I've come with tonight that I think are really important to show the difference between what I as a conservative or we as people that believe in the natural law or people that believe in what would be considered classical conservatism versus kind of this new phenomenon of postmodernism, post-structuralism, you call it leftism or liberalism.

00:04:20.000 And the term woke, by the way, is a catch-all term.

00:04:24.000 You can like it, you cannot like it.

00:04:26.000 It actually comes from a belief that you have now been able to wake up to all the systemic injustice and oppression around you.

00:04:34.000 And now you are enlightened enough to be able to see that there is racism around everywhere and that at that moment you're woke.

00:04:41.000 I honestly think it's somewhat helpful to now have a word other than liberal or left to describe the most insane things that are happening.

00:04:48.000 I'll give you one example.

00:04:49.000 And most people don't know this.

00:04:51.000 The Toronto Raptors are a national basketball team, obviously, and they do this video for Woman's Month or Woman's Week or whatever it is, right?

00:05:00.000 And they're just kind of off-the-cuff social media video.

00:05:03.000 You've seen those kind of promo videos, and they play them kind of during halftime or, you know, during timeouts.

00:05:08.000 And, you know, they say, okay, why do you guys appreciate the women in your life?

00:05:12.000 Or why should we appreciate women? 1.00

00:05:14.000 And the players for the Raptors say, you know, oh, they're queens and they're amazing and they're the only ones that could procreate. 0.86

00:05:22.000 Oh, can't say that.

00:05:24.000 The Toronto Raptors published that video and quickly were forced to take down that video and issue a multi-paragraph apology, groveling, that's saying that this is not true.

00:05:36.000 We're going to be better.

00:05:37.000 This is so, we're really learning that the idea that only women can procreate, could you imagine the locker room after that?

00:05:45.000 The Toronto Raptors. 0.99

00:05:47.000 I mean, no better way to radicalize National Basketball Association players to being right-wingers than being like, no, no, actually, you're too dumb to think that only women can become pregnant. 0.99

00:05:58.000 And it's one thing to believe an insane thing. 0.98

00:06:01.000 That's nothing new.

00:06:02.000 What's different, though, is to force us to believe it and not be able to challenge it.

00:06:08.000 And I'm not going to put up with that, and you shouldn't either.

00:06:11.000 When this is how you know these ideas are so poisonous and awful, is that they could have let the video play.

00:06:21.000 And then why don't we hear from all the experts that could tell us that what the basketball player said was wrong, where he literally just said, they're the only ones that can procreate.

00:06:32.000 God bless them.

00:06:32.000 They're the mothers of the world.

00:06:34.000 That's not true in the world of the woke because they believe men can become pregnant and birthing people and all that sort of thing, right?

00:06:40.000 And so, and that was so offensive, they had to then use force to take it down.

00:06:44.000 And then, of course, you must then apologize.

00:06:46.000 Even though you're not sorry, that's what's so interesting: I think if you actually are sorry in life, you should apologize.

00:06:52.000 Here's a good rule for life: never apologize for if you did not do something wrong and someone is demanding an apology from you.

00:07:00.000 That's a hostage situation.

00:07:01.000 That is not necessary of an apology.

00:07:04.000 That's, I'm so, I need you to justify my weird worldview.

00:07:09.000 So, please, you know, apologize.

00:07:11.000 What did I do wrong?

00:07:12.000 Well, you hurt my feelings. 1.00

00:07:13.000 Well, okay, but I said that only women can become pregnant.

00:07:16.000 I have so many examples of this, by the way.

00:07:18.000 For example, Hershey's Chocolate in the just the last couple weeks, which is, again, not exactly I would consider to be a company at the top of the list of, you know, political activism.

00:07:30.000 But Hershey's comes out with a dude that is appropriating womanhood and is like dancing around and frolicking and says, you know, being a woman to me means this.

00:07:40.000 It's a man.

00:07:41.000 It's like a man with long hair telling us, and he's like, go buy Hershey's chocolate.

00:07:46.000 And I have a deeper theory about this that I think is really important, which is the MBA example aside, but certainly with Hershey's and definitely with the NFL and definitely with some other companies, I think these companies use the woke stuff as a way to distract us from the bad stuff these companies are actually doing.

00:08:03.000 For example, maybe it's not a good thing to give eight-year-olds chocolate and corn syrup.

00:08:09.000 But Hershey's doesn't want you talking about that because they're cool because they have men frolicking around as women.

00:08:13.000 I think the woke thing serves as almost a smokescreen and a veneer and a camouflage from us actually criticizing some of these companies and organizations from the legitimate damage they're doing to, I don't know, contribute to childhood obesity.

00:08:26.000 I mean, again, Hershey's, I love chocolate, you probably love chocolate.

00:08:29.000 But of all the things I would think that Hershey would be very worried about, I didn't think it would be their gender politics.

00:08:35.000 I just don't think they would weigh in on that.

00:08:37.000 But they do that because they think they can be immune to the pressure from the activist class if they put out those sort of weird infomercials.

00:08:45.000 The NFL is the same thing, by the way.

00:08:47.000 These nauseating end zones end racism, like all this stuff.

00:08:50.000 The NFL just doesn't want you to talk about concussions.

00:08:52.000 And I love football, by the way.

00:08:54.000 I love football.

00:08:55.000 But the NFL has covered up concussions for the last 20 years, and they act as if it's not a risk factor into playing football.

00:09:02.000 I think football is beautiful.

00:09:03.000 I think we should continue it.

00:09:04.000 I think we've got to figure out a way to try to limit concussions and actually have players not be penalized for actually sitting weeks out, like Tua, you know, was totally mistreated with the Miami Dolphins this last season.

00:09:14.000 But the NFL doesn't want you talking about that because the NFL instead would say, well, we're enlightened because we have the gay flag or whatever in our end zone and we're going to end racism.

00:09:24.000 Okay.

00:09:24.000 Ending racism is a very virtuous thing, obviously, to try to do.

00:09:28.000 Probably going to take more than a decal on the back of a helmet.

00:09:31.000 How about we create good people and have kids that can read in our public schools in Baltimore?

00:09:35.000 Like, maybe that's probably more important than ending racism.

00:09:38.000 Just probably, right?

00:09:40.000 Okay, so I have five differences.

00:09:42.000 And you guys can disagree on this, but I actually think these, even if you disagree with everything I stand for and everything that we believe at Turning Point USA, I think these five differences are actually, these are facts of the distinctions between the divide, the majority divide.

00:09:56.000 Now, there are nuances here.

00:09:57.000 You might be a libertarian.

00:09:59.000 You might be a socialist.

00:10:00.000 You might be, you know, so these are general kind of categories of five things that I think that are differences between someone who thinks more on the conservative side or someone who would self-identify on the American left.

00:10:13.000 And the first of which is really important, which is, do you believe that there is or an ability to believe in absolute truth?

00:10:21.000 Do you believe that there is truth that might transcend your own opinions?

00:10:26.000 And this is a very important thing.

00:10:28.000 I'm a Christian.

00:10:29.000 I wear it on my sleeve.

00:10:30.000 I think the further we've gotten away from our Christian roots, the more unhappy, less joyful, more miserable, and violent our country has become. 1.00

00:10:38.000 It's not a popular thing to say in America, but it's true, so you could take it for whatever it's worth. 0.98

00:10:43.000 But in secular society, in the Bible, it says, very famous verse, and man did whatever is right in his own eyes, right?

00:10:49.000 Basically saying, you want moral chaos, you have subjectivity.

00:10:53.000 I'm going to do whatever I want whenever I want to do it because I'm the most important thing.

00:10:57.000 That's a very modern way to view your existence, by the way.

00:11:01.000 Very modern.

00:11:02.000 Instead, the more traditional way, which I think is more healthy and actually anchored in wisdom, is that, okay, I do exist, but I'm made in the image of a creator that is much more powerful and is actually divine and I am not.

00:11:16.000 And I should first care about my obligations and my duty and my service more so than my own personal feelings or my own personal opinions.

00:11:28.000 That's a lot more important than thinking you're the most important thing in the world.

00:11:31.000 In fact, I think it actually creates unhappier people.

00:11:33.000 I'll get to that in a second.

00:11:35.000 Is there truth?

00:11:35.000 And I'll hear all the time, people will say, Charlie, there is no such thing as absolute truth.

00:11:40.000 The only thing is your own personal perspective and/or power dynamics.

00:11:45.000 Not only is this a problem when you play it out in kind of just utilitarian ways, because eventually somebody's going to be in charge, okay?

00:11:54.000 Eventually, somebody's truth is going to reign supreme.

00:11:56.000 And history shows us that if you believe that there's no absolute truth, you're going to get a Stalin who's willing to use brutal power to eventually get to the top of that hierarchy.

00:12:05.000 And nobody wants to live in that country.

00:12:06.000 Okay?

00:12:07.000 I shouldn't say nobody.

00:12:08.000 You shouldn't want to live in that country.

00:12:10.000 Okay?

00:12:11.000 The idea of having absolute truth is basic in speech.

00:12:16.000 If you do not have agreed-upon terms or vocabulary where we can have discussion, then what exactly are how are we ever supposed to remedy our differences?

00:12:26.000 This is why I am so, at times I get accused as being obtuse, which I consider to be a compliment, so firm about language precision when it comes to sex and gender.

00:12:39.000 Because if you all of a sudden are allowing words to mean whatever those words want them to mean, then you no longer have the ability to be able to remedy your differences with somebody you disagree with.

00:12:50.000 You're talking on different planets, and boy, is that not the case in America today.

00:12:55.000 I'll give you an example.

00:12:56.000 Here's one word that means something completely different to one side than it does to the other side.

00:13:01.000 And this is sad: the word insurrection.

00:13:04.000 Okay?

00:13:05.000 For half the country, they see what happened on January 6th, and they say that is a violent overthrow of our government. 0.51

00:13:12.000 When reviewing the 45,000 hours of footage, I don't think it was a noble thing, obviously, to go smash windows and to try to harm police officers, but largely it was a bunch of buffoons that were kind of like amateurville USA that had really some planning to no planning whatsoever.

00:13:31.000 And if that's an insurrection, it's the first insurrection in American history where the guards are showing the insurrectionists around the place they're trying to take over.

00:13:39.000 Here, here's the windows, and this would that they're docents at a museum.

00:13:43.000 That's not an insurrection, that's a tour guide.

00:13:46.000 And yet they keep on repeating this in the last couple days: insurrection is that's really bad because then it dilutes the term.

00:13:53.000 I'll give you another example: racism.

00:13:56.000 Racism is real.

00:13:57.000 It is.

00:13:58.000 It's evil.

00:13:59.000 Because that means you are putting a label on somebody that they did not earn.

00:14:04.000 Something they cannot change.

00:14:06.000 Something that no matter how hard they try, they can't break outside of that label.

00:14:10.000 That is stereotyping somebody's actions and judging them and putting them in a box before they've ever, ever done something to you.

00:14:16.000 That is evil, it's wrong, it's terrible.

00:14:18.000 But however, if you say racism in America, some people on the left will say, but black people can't be racist. 0.96

00:14:26.000 This is a predominant prevailing view, or they say, well, white people are racist no matter what.

00:14:30.000 When basically the classical definition of racism is one that we should not just accept, that should be predominant, which is any person of any race could be racist at any time.

00:14:39.000 It's wrong and it's evil.

00:14:41.000 And guess what?

00:14:41.000 We're actually not that racist of a country.

00:14:44.000 We're actually the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:14:47.000 We're actually rather decent to each other.

00:14:49.000 Considering we have every nation represented on the planet, every language spoken, we've let more people into our country than any other country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:14:57.000 And we largely get along.

00:14:59.000 That's a big deal.

00:15:00.000 In fact, we have a supply and demand problem with racism.

00:15:03.000 That if you are a famous, soon-to-be-failed actor in Chicago, you have to fake your own hate crime.

00:15:09.000 There's so little racism that you got to go all of a sudden, put like a noose around your neck and act as if, oh my goodness, they're hunting me down in the streets and screaming, this is MAGA country.

00:15:19.000 That's how you know you don't live in a racist country.

00:15:21.000 You have to fake your own hate crimes.

00:15:23.000 And by the way, you do it really sloppily and you think people are going to believe you.

00:15:26.000 By the way, I'm from Chicago.

00:15:27.000 I knew this whole thing was BS.

00:15:28.000 As soon as I heard negative 30 degrees, you go out to Subway.

00:15:31.000 That's really weird at like 2 a.m.

00:15:33.000 Like that whole thing is really strange.

00:15:35.000 And then he says that the two people come up with MAGA hats and proclaim this is MAGA country.

00:15:39.000 And then they throw the noose around him.

00:15:41.000 And then when the police come back into his apartment, he's still wearing the noose.

00:15:44.000 And the police officer, God bless him, one of the funniest lines in the history of police body cam footage.

00:15:49.000 First thing, first thing the police officer says is, why are you still wearing the noose?

00:15:54.000 It's like it's been in, it's like been 20 minutes.

00:15:56.000 Like, I get it.

00:15:57.000 It's like, don't you think you take it off?

00:15:59.000 Like, that's, you're wearing it like it's a costume because it was a costume, okay?

00:16:05.000 So when words start to mean something that they don't actually mean, then you get into power dynamics and that's really bad.

00:16:11.000 So, but deeper than that, my challenge to you, even if you don't think there is absolute truth, I challenge you to at least entertain the idea that there is absolute truth.

00:16:23.000 Because otherwise, you actually then self-contradicting your own viewpoint, which one of my favorite dialogues I've ever had with a student is they say, Charlie, there is no such thing as absolute truth.

00:16:33.000 I say, well, is that absolutely true?

00:16:36.000 And immediately it collapses, right?

00:16:39.000 Because then you're using the paradigm that you're trying to criticize against the person that you're going.

00:16:45.000 Okay, second thing is this, which is, okay, kind of ties into this.

00:16:49.000 What matters more in trying to make difficult political decisions or difficult decisions?

00:16:55.000 Reason or emotions?

00:16:57.000 Okay, reason should always matter more than your emotions.

00:17:01.000 Your emotions are important.

00:17:03.000 Your emotions, though, can deceive you because they fluctuate.

00:17:08.000 They also are incredibly subjective.

00:17:10.000 We need to go through a political process where reason is much more important than emotion.

00:17:15.000 And emotion should not mean nothing.

00:17:17.000 When you see 5,000 people go across your southern border every single day, you should be angry about that.

00:17:25.000 When you see children that are allowed to have drag queens performed in front of them, you should be angry about that. 1.00

00:17:32.000 However, the way that we go about actually doing something should dictate and use reason.

00:17:37.000 Because reason actually tempers that emotion, and then you're able to build consensus based on that reason.

00:17:44.000 You can have agreed upon terms and agreed upon language.

00:17:46.000 I'm afraid that our politics has become way too emotive and not very logical.

00:17:53.000 And by the way, this is actually, sometimes both sides are equal opportunity offenders of this.

00:17:57.000 So there's not one side versus the other.

00:17:59.000 I get upset on both sides about this.

00:18:01.000 But largely in American life today, and especially, I think, in the viewpoint of what we call the wokeys, it is hyper-emotional and very little factual.

00:18:13.000 So for example, when I will go on a college campus and they'll say, you know, Charlie, you cannot be a black person and walk down the street without the police coming and gunning you down.

00:18:22.000 It's super frequent, it's super common.

00:18:24.000 But then you use your reason, you say, well, how common is it?

00:18:26.000 How many unarmed black men are killed by the police every single year?

00:18:30.000 And estimates, they'll say 1,000, 2,000, 5,000, 10,000, 50,000.

00:18:34.000 It's 18.

00:18:34.000 And that's according to the Washington Post, not exactly a right-wing outlet, okay?

00:18:38.000 18 is too much.

00:18:39.000 You go look into that.

00:18:40.000 It's actually less than that.

00:18:41.000 It's more like 10 or 11 because the way they determine it is actually really kind of sketchy.

00:18:45.000 It's like some people were trying to run over the top of the car.

00:18:47.000 They were reaching for something that could have been a weapon.

00:18:49.000 Okay, let's say that it's 15.

00:18:51.000 Out of millions of police interactions every single year, and a very, very difficult job that keeps us all safe.

00:18:58.000 Are we really supposed to disassemble modern society because of 15 examples that are very subject to error when emotions are heightened and you're in the heat of the moment?

00:19:09.000 See, that's using your reason against emotion to actually come to a conclusion.

00:19:14.000 And the summer of 2020, Floyd Apalooza, we decided to allow our emotion to literally burn down our civilization.

00:19:23.000 We should never let that happen again.

00:19:25.000 Because the reason should have been, actually, we're not a racist country.

00:19:28.000 There's no excuse for what happened in Minneapolis.

00:19:31.000 That's bad.

00:19:32.000 It's also extremely rare.

00:19:35.000 And to connect that all of a sudden to 1619 project, we're systemically racist and all that, it's just not true.

00:19:40.000 But if you don't believe in absolute truth, and that argument is not very convincing, is it?

00:19:45.000 That goes back to the first point.

00:19:46.000 Third one, this.

00:19:47.000 Victims and victors.

00:19:48.000 Look, part of the Marxist view is constantly looking at things through either race, gender, class, right?

00:19:56.000 So Marx originally was really big on class.

00:19:59.000 Actually, he said some things that were sort of true about that.

00:20:01.000 We can talk about that later.

00:20:03.000 Then gender came. 1.00

00:20:04.000 They're totally done with that one, by the way, because they can't tell you what a woman is. 0.96

00:20:08.000 But the big one that they're really driving home is race, right?

00:20:12.000 Which is constantly trying to tell people that there is something that you have a disadvantage against you, that you have a barrier, that you have a limitation based on something you can't change.

00:20:23.000 I think this is one of the most immoral and evil things that you can tell a young black person in America or a young Hispanic person or anyone in ethnic minority.

00:20:32.000 If you're telling them out of the gate that there are these boogeyman barriers that might prevent them from flourishing in success and prosperity, by definition, that student will be less likely to take a risk, to engage in self-discipline, and to try to get to a higher place of flourishing.

00:20:48.000 You're basically telling them the game is so rigged against you, the white man, the structural structure against you, that you shouldn't do that.

00:20:55.000 Instead, it should be, you know what? 0.99

00:20:57.000 You might get gypped here and there by a jerk, but we actually largely live in a decent country, and you're going to find some decent people. 0.98

00:21:03.000 And if you don't like that decent person, quit and find a decent person. 0.99

00:21:06.000 Instead, be gritty and be tough.

00:21:10.000 And if you do that, you can succeed in this country.

00:21:12.000 That's a much better message than telling everybody that they're a victim simply because of the color of their skin.

00:21:18.000 And that is a massive divide as we see manifest in our country today.

00:21:25.000 Okay, I could talk about that one forever, but I'm going to go quick.

00:21:28.000 Number four, which is probably one of my favorites, and it should be, honestly, if I was king for a day, that would be really something, I got to tell you.

00:21:37.000 If I was king for a day, I would make it a nationwide, I would make it a requirement that every class in college or high school at least debates, thinks, and reads on the topic of whether or not man is basically good or basically evil.

00:21:53.000 This is one of the most fundamental questions when you talk about politics and life.

00:21:58.000 It informs almost every other question when it comes to politics.

00:22:03.000 Now, spoiler alert: if you're a Christian, you cannot believe man is basically good.

00:22:08.000 It's impossible.

00:22:08.000 Okay?

00:22:09.000 Just a little spoiler alert.

00:22:10.000 It's incompatible.

00:22:12.000 Most of the secular world, though, believes that man is born good and corrupted by the influences outside of him.

00:22:21.000 So born perfect and corrupted by racism, corrupted by capitalism, corrupted by all the corporatism, all this stuff.

00:22:29.000 And therefore, we can't blame the human being who is flawed.

00:22:33.000 We got to change all society and that will make the world better.

00:22:37.000 I'm a parent of now a six-month-old.

00:22:40.000 I think other parents would agree.

00:22:42.000 If you want a masterclass in demonstrating human nature, have children and you'll learn human nature very quickly.

00:22:49.000 Like, I never taught you that, but that's very bad.

00:22:52.000 Stop doing that.

00:22:53.000 Like, where did you learn that?

00:22:55.000 It's because their nature, I believe, is naturally bad.

00:22:58.000 Does that mean they're all bad?

00:23:00.000 No.

00:23:00.000 There is a tension.

00:23:02.000 You do have a conscience.

00:23:03.000 In fact, in Genesis 3, not to talk too much about the Bible because some of you might find it unpersuasive, even though it built the civilization you're in, but that's a separate issue.

00:23:12.000 Cain, one of the most amazing dialogues is Cain talking to God, where God asked him, what happened to your brother?

00:23:20.000 And Cain did not immediately say, well, I murdered him, of course.

00:23:25.000 Instead, his answer, and I'm just paraphrasing from memory, it was actually somewhat defensive.

00:23:30.000 Basically, it was like, What am I, my brother's keeper?

00:23:33.000 And there's a lot of different ways to read that verse, but basically, that's it.

00:23:37.000 That's that's plain defense because I believe God did put an element of conscience in every single human being.

00:23:44.000 However, it wasn't enough.

00:23:45.000 That's why you had the Noahic covenant and eventually the laws of Israel.

00:23:48.000 And then, obviously, we believe as Christians, you know, Jesus Christ, God incarnate, to lead us towards the absolute truth.

00:23:55.000 But the point being is that I do believe there is some agency for a human being to be able to judge good and bad.

00:24:01.000 But guess what?

00:24:02.000 What we know through human history and just raising children is that usually your nature wins out against the dialogue in your head.

00:24:12.000 So, the question should be: what do we do about it?

00:24:15.000 Try to raise good people.

00:24:17.000 Pretty simple.

00:24:18.000 Teach young people what is right or wrong and punish them when they do wrong.

00:24:22.000 Pretty simple.

00:24:23.000 Well, it's actually not that simple because civilizations have tried to figure it out for quite some time.

00:24:27.000 In fact, America was figuring it out really well when we used to have a certain model of education.

00:24:32.000 We've gotten away from that.

00:24:33.000 If people are naturally good, then you can excuse all the injustice in the world.

00:24:40.000 If people are naturally not good, then the problem is very simple: make them better, understand their nature.

00:24:47.000 You see, when a college student believes they're naturally good and they know they're not, it actually can be very tormenting to them.

00:24:54.000 Instead, we should say, Your nature is rather crummy, and if you work hard at it enough, you can actually become a pretty good person.

00:25:02.000 Instead, if you tell a 19-year-old your nature is perfect, they become an activist because they think everything wrong about the world is outside of them.

00:25:14.000 Instead, you should say the biggest problem and the biggest challenge you have every single day is the person you see in the mirror.

00:25:21.000 It's you versus you.

00:25:22.000 It's not you versus climate change.

00:25:24.000 It's not you versus systemic racism.

00:25:27.000 It's not you versus transphobia. 0.98

00:25:29.000 How about you make your bed, shave, and stop smelling like a mess before you tell me that America is systemically racist?

00:25:36.000 We used to tell our children in America, we used to tell our children, you got a lot of problems, and America is great.

00:25:46.000 Now we tell our children, America has a lot of problems, and you are great.

00:25:51.000 And the result is the most miserable, suicidal, depressed, confused generation in American history.

00:25:59.000 Because we've taught them that their past is crummy, no ability to improve their current life unless they tear everything down around them.

00:26:08.000 That creates activists and arsonists, not good people.

00:26:11.000 Okay, finally, one that I could go on for at some length here, which I think is really important, which is what is man's relationship with nature?

00:26:19.000 And this is one that is going to just be the number one issue that I don't know tonight the questions that we'll get, but I get this question probably more than anything else.

00:26:27.000 Charlie, what do you think about climate change and all this?

00:26:29.000 And I'm happy to discuss all of it, but you cannot even begin to get into that debate until you could tell me on moral terms what you believe man versus nature and how they should coexist.

00:26:41.000 I believe in a hierarchy of man of nature.

00:26:44.000 I believe nature is there for us as human beings to be able to use to put human beings first.

00:26:50.000 I do not believe we're here to worship nature.

00:26:52.000 I do not believe we are here to get some sort of, let's say, religious kick out of nature.

00:26:59.000 I think nature is made by God, who is outside of nature, for man who is above nature to be able to flourish.

00:27:06.000 Why does that matter?

00:27:08.000 Well, if you believe that nature and man are equals, or even worse, if you believe that nature is above man, well, then all of a sudden, you then have an argument to shut down industrial production, to limit human population.

00:27:23.000 You see, earth worship is nothing new.

00:27:26.000 It is coming back, though, in great, in great detail.

00:27:30.000 The question in front of us should be, and this is what I always ask of the climate change people: is would you believe the same policy prescriptions that you have to, you know, some of them, there's some nuances here, right?

00:27:42.000 But get rid of fossil fuels, you know, widespread electric vehicles, all this stuff.

00:27:47.000 Would you still believe that if you believe that human beings actually have a hierarchy over nature?

00:27:54.000 And you might say, well, that's insignificant because I want to save the environment to be able to save human beings.

00:27:58.000 Okay, so that's actually a good argument if it was true.

00:28:03.000 If you can buy, if you can get me to buy into quote-unquote scientific consensus after everything I've been told by the scientific elites over the last three years has been proven to be a synthetic, fabricated lie.

00:28:16.000 Whether it be the virus came from a bat in the Himalayan mountains and kicking me off Twitter for mentioning it, shutting down kids and putting on masks of which epidemiologically was one of the worst, stupidest things we could ever do to young teenagers, and then to force on an mRNA gene-altering shot onto a younger generation and tell them, if you don't get this, you don't go to college, you can't go to the military, you can't get a job, and then not even an apology from Fauci or Walensky or the people in charge.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, excuse me while I say, yeah, you probably haven't earned my trust the last couple years.

00:28:47.000 In fact, you've earned my distrust.

00:28:49.000 Like when you are really getting towards something, I think there actually might be an ulterior motive behind you.

00:28:54.000 So man's relationship with nature is very important, and I believe you have to be able to express that on moral terms.

00:29:01.000 Okay, I want to get to some questions, but let me close by saying this.

00:29:03.000 I know a lot of you want me to talk about what's happening in the country right now.

00:29:07.000 I kind of just did through, you know, in a separate way, obviously talking more about philosophy and all that.

00:29:13.000 But tonight, I can see that it's, you know, somewhat of a conservative audience, and I appreciate that.

00:29:18.000 If somebody comes to the line tonight and says something you disagree with or you find objectionable, please do not boo them or scorn them or say anything to them.

00:29:28.000 I spend my life getting death threats from liberals, having to have arm protection 24/7 from the left.

00:29:35.000 And the last thing I ever want is to be as nasty or disrespectful as the other side.

00:29:40.000 So tonight, if you disagree, again, you can come to the front of the line and you can ask any question you want.

00:29:45.000 You'll be given an opportunity and you'll be given a platform.

00:29:48.000 But it does take some bravery and some gusto to get up and to ask me a question, especially if it's against a view I have.

00:29:56.000 And so if that is the case, respect that.

00:29:59.000 Even if you find the proposition they are putting forward laughable or silly, respect them during the question process.

00:30:06.000 So you guys can start lining up here.

00:30:08.000 If you disagree, you go to the front of the line.

00:30:10.000 I'll just say this about the state of the country.

00:30:13.000 People say, Charlie, where do you think we're headed?

00:30:15.000 Are you optimistic?

00:30:16.000 Are you pessimistic?

00:30:16.000 Where do you think you are?

00:30:17.000 Here's what I think.

00:30:18.000 I think good people need to fight harder right now.

00:30:20.000 Okay?

00:30:21.000 I think good people need to do more to fight against what I consider to be some of the most immoral evil action we see in our country.

00:30:29.000 So again, if you have a question, comment, you can line up.

00:30:32.000 If you disagree, go to the front of the line.

00:30:34.000 And I'm going to go to they kick me off stage.

00:30:36.000 First question: How has your life shifted since being a father?

00:30:41.000 It's a great question.

00:30:44.000 So here's the best way I can describe it: BC and AD.

00:30:52.000 It's literally New Testament, Old Testament.

00:30:54.000 I actually thought to myself the other day, what was my life before I had a child?

00:30:59.000 Parents, I'm sure you could agree, right? 0.53

00:31:01.000 It all just kind of seems so silly and irrelevant.

00:31:05.000 It makes you also more paranoid for sure, especially I'm told that goes away with the second or third or fourth or fifth kid, right?

00:31:13.000 I'm told that you're like, okay, whatever, especially when they get sick, which is no fun, right?

00:31:21.000 It makes you recognize and realize that you have a specific duty that transcends your feeling.

00:31:27.000 It's one of the things that's why I'm telling young people I encourage you to get married and have children.

00:31:32.000 It's so important.

00:31:34.000 Because it's kind of irrelevant how you feel at 3 a.m.

00:31:37.000 They have to eat, and that's a duty and an obligation.

00:31:40.000 So then the service to your child matters a lot more than your own personal kind of feelings or your own desires at that moment.

00:31:50.000 And that's a very important thing and a lesson to learn over time.

00:31:53.000 And then also it radicalizes you.

00:31:56.000 It certainly has radicalized me because it really makes me have bitter contempt for somebody that would ever want to harm a child, is harming children, or wants to make the country my daughter has to grow in any less free.

00:32:10.000 So I want to win more than ever before.

00:32:13.000 Thank you.

00:32:17.000 Hello.

00:32:19.000 So I'm the president of the chapter at Moorhead State University, and we have had different events throughout the past semester, and our student government has kind of attacked us for it and tried to discriminate against us.

00:32:32.000 So what is your advice to other chapters and other conservative organizations to kind of combat this political persecution from student governments?

00:32:40.000 Yeah, that's a good question.

00:32:42.000 You have to be persistent, right?

00:32:44.000 You have to use their own rules against them.

00:32:48.000 And so that's an Alinsky rule, by the way.

00:32:51.000 Use the enemy's own rules against them, which is if they have clauses in the student constitution or in the student bylaws or the university bylaws and they're discriminating against you or they're treating you differently, then use, then throw that book at them and be like, wait a second, we're allowed to do this.

00:33:06.000 But the biggest thing I have to tell you is you have to have endurance and perseverance, right?

00:33:10.000 It is not enough just to show up and hope you're treated well.

00:33:17.000 You have to demand respectful treatment, right?

00:33:20.000 But do it respectfully and do it with integrity and do it kindly.

00:33:24.000 And at the same time, though, do not put up with them using their power against you because they don't see the world the way you do, right?

00:33:34.000 And they're strengthened numbers and strength in community.

00:33:37.000 And you also want to be annoying enough where eventually they just say yes and they make you go away.

00:33:42.000 That's actually half the battle.

00:33:44.000 Am I right for all of our turning point chapter leaders?

00:33:46.000 Right?

00:33:47.000 That's half the battle.

00:33:48.000 Thank you.

00:33:48.000 God bless you.

00:33:53.000 Hello.

00:33:54.000 So I am a self-described liberal.

00:33:57.000 And I honestly did not think that I would be so nervous, but I am.

00:34:03.000 And I wanted to kind of clear up some things.

00:34:06.000 You had said earlier that it's easy, you to ask if it's easy to hold liberals, is it easy to hold your beliefs?

00:34:15.000 And oh, it's easy because the rest of society agrees with you, yada, yada, yada.

00:34:20.000 However, that's not why I find it easy.

00:34:25.000 I was liberal before it was cool.

00:34:29.000 I find my beliefs easy to hold because I believe them in my soul.

00:34:34.000 And I feel like a lot of conservatives are the same way.

00:34:39.000 Your beliefs aren't subject to acceptance or disacceptance.

00:34:49.000 Something else, and I mean, and honestly, if it were about what would be easy, would be if I wanted to make my life more comfortable, I would change and become conservative.

00:35:07.000 Because my husband has been caught up in and has changed his way of thinking to be a conservative person over the past couple of years.

00:35:19.000 Caused absolute disarray.

00:35:25.000 So, if it were something where I could just say, oh, well, you know, if you could get somebody to change their values.

00:35:33.000 Yeah, so let's try to make some progress.

00:35:36.000 What do you believe and why do you believe it?

00:35:38.000 Well, I believe actually a lot of the same things you believe, just maybe in a more broad sense.

00:35:46.000 Like, I believe in freedom.

00:35:48.000 I believe in free speech.

00:35:51.000 I believe in free speech for everybody.

00:35:58.000 I believe in freedom of expression. 0.99

00:36:01.000 If you were born with a penis and you want to wear a dress, have at it. 0.99

00:36:05.000 It's not my, it's not my life. 0.99

00:36:07.000 And I don't get to dictate to anybody else what's right or wrong.

00:36:12.000 I don't believe that man is above nature because then is man unnatural?

00:36:19.000 If man is separate from nature, is man unnatural?

00:36:24.000 Man is made in the image of the Creator.

00:36:26.000 But I do want to mention zero in on one thing here, which is so you say it's you don't care what other people do.

00:36:34.000 Just curious, do you think it should be okay for adults to perform drag performances in front of children?

00:36:42.000 It depends on the nature of the performance. 0.92

00:36:45.000 How about a sexually explicit one?

00:36:47.000 Of course not.

00:36:48.000 Okay, so we agree on that.

00:36:50.000 And by the way, most liberals don't, just so we're clear, right?

00:36:55.000 Yeah.

00:36:55.000 I know zero liberals that think that it's okay to expose children to sexually explicit stuff.

00:37:05.000 Okay, so you would be partners with me in removing child pornography from elementary schools.

00:37:12.000 Yes.

00:37:13.000 So you're a big fan of Ron DeSantis then?

00:37:13.000 Okay.

00:37:16.000 No. 0.96

00:37:18.000 Well, he did that and he was attacked by Disney and he was attacked by every major left-wing group as harsh, anti-gay, don't say gay.

00:37:26.000 He was just saying you're not allowed to put propaganda or pornography in front of kids.

00:37:31.000 I think you're actually more conservative than you are liberal, than you give yourself credit for.

00:37:36.000 Hold your applause.

00:37:36.000 No, no, no, no.

00:37:38.000 I am not because where we differ is in how we define what is profane, what is pornography. 0.99

00:37:46.000 How about oral sex to eight-year-olds? 0.99

00:37:48.000 That's probably profane, right? 1.00

00:37:51.000 Excuse me?

00:37:52.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.79

00:37:53.000 That's in textbooks across the country, including in this state, that liberals are defending as free speech. 0.78

00:38:00.000 They're teaching eight-year-olds the most graphic sexual practices in public schools across the country.

00:38:00.000 Okay.

00:38:06.000 And I get smeared, slandered, and so does the American right as somehow being anti-LGBT because I don't think a nine-year-old should be exposed to things that should be behind in the darkest depths of the human existence, right? 0.88

00:38:22.000 So I guess we agree on that.

00:38:23.000 What I'm trying to get at, though, is why you believe what you believe.

00:38:26.000 And we could spend all night doing this.

00:38:28.000 You say you believe in freedom and free speech, right?

00:38:31.000 Okay.

00:38:32.000 So which side do you think the American right or the American left currently is doing a better job of protecting the idea of freedom of speech? 0.98

00:38:41.000 Actually, they're both sucking pretty hardcore. 0.98

00:38:46.000 They're both being absolutely horrible at it. 0.99

00:38:50.000 How has the right been horrible at that?

00:38:51.000 I'm curious.

00:38:53.000 They're both being horrible in the exact same way.

00:38:55.000 And it's who are they protecting or standing up for free speech for?

00:39:01.000 Like free speech for who?

00:39:04.000 Can I ask a theoretical question?

00:39:06.000 Do you think if a liberal came to speak at University of Kentucky, they'd give an open mic like I just did to a conservative and had a discussion like this?

00:39:13.000 I certainly hope they would.

00:39:15.000 No, they wouldn't, because speech is not a left-wing value.

00:39:18.000 That's why Chuck Schumer went on the Senate floor yesterday and called for the censorship of a cable television program.

00:39:24.000 That is why they have to deploy shock troops called Antifa to go after everywhere I go.

00:39:29.000 When I go to University of California Davis next week, there has to be 120 police officers because of the threats, the violent threats of liberals that want me dead, that want to disrupt our events.

00:39:39.000 There are no right-wing hecklers that come to events like this.

00:39:42.000 Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, myself, Candace Owens need 24-7, 365 armed security to prevent ourselves from the violent threats from the left.

00:39:53.000 And so I think it's rather clear there's one side that is trying to do everything they can to shut one side up and one side that's trying to open up the marketplace of ideas.

00:40:02.000 And I think that's rather self-evident.

00:40:04.000 But I do want to thank you for coming here tonight and demonstrating.

00:40:07.000 I totally disagree with everything you just said.

00:40:11.000 I don't discount that you've received death threats or anything like that.

00:40:16.000 Public approval polls show that a majority of liberals do not believe the First Amendment is absolute.

00:40:16.000 So how about this?

00:40:22.000 What do you have to say about that?

00:40:25.000 It's, I mean, it's not absolute.

00:40:28.000 There are restrictions to the First Amendment.

00:40:32.000 Such as?

00:40:33.000 There literally are legal restrictions to it.

00:40:35.000 Outside of incitement, what would one be?

00:40:38.000 Okay.

00:40:39.000 Let's see.

00:40:40.000 Let me think back to high school civic.

00:40:43.000 Do you think hate speech should be disallowed?

00:40:46.000 Fighting words is disallowed.

00:40:50.000 Not fighting words.

00:40:52.000 I mean, it's called that, though.

00:40:54.000 No, they're very much not disallowed, actually.

00:40:57.000 They are disallowed if your speech is considered by a reasonable person to and they harm you because of what you said.

00:41:10.000 Wait, you mean hurt their feelings or physical problem?

00:41:13.000 I mean, okay.

00:41:17.000 If you intentionally provoke a person with your speech, that is not protected speech.

00:41:25.000 Yes, it is.

00:41:26.000 It actually the American Civil Liberties Union protected Nazis to be able to march in Skokie, Illinois around Holocaust survivors.

00:41:34.000 Grotesque, outrageous speech is absolutely protected by the first amount of people.

00:41:39.000 I'm saying that I can't really explain it right now, but there is a limitation on that.

00:41:50.000 Another limit is like you can't speech that like you can't yell fire in a leader.

00:41:57.000 You actually can, but that's a separate constitutional issue.

00:42:00.000 That's incitement.

00:42:01.000 That's a separate issue.

00:42:02.000 But thank you for being here tonight.

00:42:04.000 And I don't think we made any progress, but we certainly see where we disagree.

00:42:08.000 So, all right, next question.

00:42:12.000 Hello, my name is Jeff.

00:42:14.000 It's more of a question for me to understand your view on something.

00:42:19.000 You said that you view humans are more important than the Earth.

00:42:24.000 Yes.

00:42:25.000 What is a human without the Earth?

00:42:28.000 Or just the simple atmosphere that gives us the ability to live on Earth?

00:42:32.000 Humans could potentially exist outside of the Earth.

00:42:35.000 I mean, we've got to believe in that too.

00:42:38.000 We could colonize Mars, but obviously, in the immediate, the Earth is necessary for our survival, obviously.

00:42:46.000 Do you believe God created us somewhere else and we have come from somewhere else, or do you think He created us here?

00:42:52.000 He created us here.

00:42:53.000 On like Wednesday or something?

00:42:55.000 Well, no, God created man on what, the fifth or sixth day?

00:42:58.000 Okay.

00:42:59.000 Before He rested, if I'm not mistaken.

00:43:00.000 Yeah.

00:43:01.000 Yeah.

00:43:01.000 Am I right?

00:43:02.000 That was all I just wanted to understand.

00:43:02.000 Okay.

00:43:05.000 Okay.

00:43:06.000 Sorry.

00:43:06.000 All right.

00:43:07.000 Next question.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, sure.

00:43:12.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:43:12.000 My name's Dan.

00:43:13.000 Welcome.

00:43:16.000 I followed you for some time, and I've never heard you comment on what I was going to ask you.

00:43:22.000 There's a commentator author whom I have listened to for more than 50 years who I think is wonderful.

00:43:32.000 His name is Dr. Thomas Sowell.

00:43:34.000 He's my man.

00:43:35.000 I love something on the side.

00:43:36.000 I've never heard you comment on him, and I just wanted to see if you were a fan of his.

00:43:41.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it should be required reading in every college economics course.

00:43:45.000 The best book is Discrimination and Disparities.

00:43:47.000 It'll change your life.

00:43:48.000 And basic economics.

00:43:50.000 He wrote over 50 books.

00:43:51.000 Thomas Sowell is a black economist who was raised in New York and shatters so many of the myths that have infected our society.

00:44:00.000 Okay, thank you very much.

00:44:01.000 God bless you.

00:44:02.000 I admire him, and thank you very much.

00:44:04.000 By the way, if you disagree, you're allowed to go to the front.

00:44:04.000 Thank you.

00:44:06.000 So just keep coming.

00:44:07.000 No, no, no, not you, sir.

00:44:08.000 I'm saying in the line, if anybody disagrees, our staff will help identify it.

00:44:13.000 Okay, yes.

00:44:14.000 So you mentioned that you're fairly in line with the Bible, and I'm glad you are. 0.96

00:44:20.000 I am too.

00:44:21.000 And, you know, I think, as you know, God created a man and woman.

00:44:26.000 And so, how would you respond to someone who thinks that they're in the wrong body?

00:44:31.000 So, like, say they're male and they think they're female or want to be female.

00:44:36.000 Isn't that technically just telling God that he's wrong?

00:44:42.000 You're pretty much just beating them down.

00:44:44.000 I mean, how would you respond to someone with love and compassion?

00:44:50.000 I mean, they're in the midst of a delusion.

00:44:53.000 And people that are in the midst of a delusion need to be told the truth and need to be helped.

00:44:58.000 But if you think you're in a different biological being than you actually are, you're suffering from something.

00:45:06.000 And the American Psychiatric Association used to call this gender dysphoria.

00:45:10.000 We no longer call it that.

00:45:12.000 And so the real question should be: why is it all of a sudden the new way of treating this, which is with chemical castration and extremely expensive drugs and pediatric gender surgery, better than maybe telling a 12-year-old, hey, you're a woman, you're going through puberty.

00:45:31.000 Maybe let's have some counseling for six months or two years or three years before we, I don't know, make you go under with the knife and make you have irreversible damage.

00:45:42.000 And so everything should be done with love and compassion.

00:45:45.000 I think it's cruel and harsh and medieval to have teenagers, thousands of which every single year, have their breasts chopped off and are having mastectomies.

00:45:56.000 I had an unbelievably powerful hour-long dialogue with a D-transitioner. 1.00

00:46:00.000 By the way, we are about to see one of the saddest communities of people grow exponentially, which are D-transitioners. 1.00

00:46:07.000 And like clockwork, you get administered testosterone, you get, all of a sudden you start to feel stronger, more mental clarity, but it has a plateau effect after three or four years.

00:46:18.000 And you always think like you need more surgery and you need more surgery because if you think that's actually going to solve the problem, it probably isn't, because it's a much deeper identity problem that you're having, right?

00:46:29.000 And so the way that it was actually solved successfully by counselors across the country was through cognitive behavioral therapy and going through a process of loving on the person enough to tell them the truth that they're actually not the thing that they think that they are.

00:46:43.000 And here's the best example I have for this.

00:46:46.000 It is not loving to always give a patient what they want.

00:46:51.000 You do not give liposuction to somebody that has anorexia.

00:46:54.000 It will kill them. 0.58

00:46:57.000 I'm fat. 0.99

00:46:58.000 No, you're not actually. 0.72

00:46:59.000 You're 95 pounds and you're under a delusion where you think you're fat.

00:47:04.000 Patients want things from doctors all the time. 0.86

00:47:07.000 Gender affirming care, it's nonsense. 1.00

00:47:09.000 It's drivel. 0.94

00:47:10.000 Instead, it should be a gender factual care. 0.87

00:47:14.000 This is, by the way, I don't like the term gender.

00:47:16.000 I just, I think sex is a much better term because I think gender is actually going too far. 0.95

00:47:21.000 So I would say that you're under a delusion.

00:47:23.000 I hope you get help.

00:47:24.000 And I'm not going to pretend that you're something you're not just because of that.

00:47:29.000 Yeah, I mean, there's 72 genders now, so you can't really. 0.97

00:47:32.000 I think it's up to 100.

00:47:33.000 Could be.

00:47:34.000 Is it all right if I ask one more question?

00:47:36.000 We got a long line.

00:47:36.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:37.000 Thank you.

00:47:39.000 Thanks.

00:47:42.000 Hey, Charlie, we spoke at the event you had at the University of Vermont a couple of years ago.

00:47:48.000 So besides your organization and a few others.

00:47:50.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember you.

00:47:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:52.000 Yeah, I do.

00:47:52.000 You remember me?

00:47:53.000 So besides your organization and a few others, there's no so much involvement with the younger generation coming from Republicans and the GOP.

00:47:53.000 Great.

00:48:00.000 You know where I'm going with.

00:48:01.000 Yes, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.

00:48:03.000 While I personally feel that the Democrats and the left specifically are doing a fabulous job at getting the young ones involved and they are much better organized, why do you think that is?

00:48:12.000 And what can the Republicans and the GOP do going forward to get more engaged with the younger generation?

00:48:17.000 That's a great, great question.

00:48:18.000 Look, my job is hard because at the core of my message is not free stuff or blaming other people for your problems.

00:48:18.000 Thank you.

00:48:28.000 My job is to have you resist the temptation of human nature to sit at home all day long and do weed and blame people for their problems and get free money.

00:48:37.000 My job is actually to tell you to go do hard stuff that is infinitely more rewarding than blaming people for your problems.

00:48:44.000 And so by definition, it's harder.

00:48:48.000 By definition, I'm going to tell you, you know, get married and have kids and you won't sleep for 20 years.

00:48:54.000 Okay?

00:48:55.000 But your life will be deeper and you'll be happier.

00:49:00.000 I'm here to tell you that you should care more about your duties and your obligations than your feelings and your emotions.

00:49:06.000 That's a hard message to sell because the modern self, the way that we teach young people, is you're the most important thing.

00:49:13.000 Your feelings, your own creation of yourself. 1.00

00:49:17.000 It's garbage. 1.00

00:49:18.000 It's rubbish. 1.00

00:49:19.000 And even some conservatives don't like it when I talk like this. 0.99

00:49:23.000 And to the earlier answer, someone says, well, why do I care if a man pretends to be a woman?

00:49:28.000 I'm not here to tell you what to do.

00:49:29.000 Of course, you could do some things privately. 0.69

00:49:31.000 You could be mentally deluded.

00:49:32.000 That's not the problem.

00:49:34.000 And let's not lie to ourselves.

00:49:37.000 You know what the problem is?

00:49:38.000 They're forcing us to accommodate their own delusion.

00:49:41.000 That's what's going on.

00:49:43.000 It's not about some sort of private thing where we're going around and being like, are you actually a man?

00:49:47.000 Are you a woman?

00:49:48.000 It's men who are now competing in NCAA swimming competitions and women winning them and exposing themselves to women.

00:49:48.000 I don't know.

00:49:58.000 And all of a sudden we're like, well, you know, that is progress because even though he has a penis and he's in a female locker room, he identifies as a woman. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Your identification means nothing. 0.99

00:50:12.000 It means nothing.

00:50:15.000 And here's it.

00:50:17.000 People say, well, Charlie, I got to pick my pronouns.

00:50:19.000 Do you get to pick your adjectives?

00:50:22.000 Do you get to pick if you're tall, skinny, rich, successful, good grades?

00:50:28.000 Or are we going to throw out all objective reality because we all of a sudden want to platform somebody's own identity crisis over what is actually materially true?

00:50:39.000 Thank you for the question.

00:50:40.000 Fair enough, man.

00:50:40.000 I appreciate it.

00:50:40.000 Thank you.

00:50:45.000 Hey, my question is about your kid, or not necessarily your kid, but kids in general, on your opinion about homeschooling, private school, public school.

00:50:57.000 And I asked specifically about your kid because it probably shows the most about what you actually want, you know.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, we're already homeschooling, as I like to say, right?

00:51:07.000 We're going through the Constitution ABCs.

00:51:09.000 I'll tell you, that kid is going to know Madison from Jefferson to Jay and the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers by the age of three.

00:51:17.000 I'll tell you what.

00:51:18.000 She's going to be a superstar.

00:51:21.000 We're going to homeschool as long as we can.

00:51:23.000 And if we find a really good private school, great.

00:51:25.000 But we're not going to go to government school.

00:51:27.000 It's not going to happen.

00:51:28.000 I'm not going to allow these predators to get near my daughter.

00:51:30.000 It's not going to happen.

00:51:31.000 And I know that some of you say, Charlie, oh, that's too harsh.

00:51:35.000 I love her too much to allow a government school system that has repeatedly shown me institutionally through curriculum and practice that they do not care about the innocence of children.

00:51:44.000 They're not concerned about the pursuit of beauty or virtue or goodness.

00:51:48.000 It seems as if they're much more concerned about some ideological agenda.

00:51:51.000 So that's what I'm doing personally, what you guys decide to do.

00:51:54.000 I hope it works out for you and God bless you.

00:51:56.000 And if you are homeschooling, I am a massive fan and appreciative of that.

00:52:00.000 We need to have more people homeschooling in America.

00:52:02.000 Okay.

00:52:04.000 Could I then ask, if you were to look for a private school, what would your criteria be?

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 And then if when would it be more beneficial to do like homeschooling if the mother would then stay home and not be able to work? 0.75

00:52:21.000 Sure.

00:52:22.000 Yeah, it's tough.

00:52:23.000 So private school look for classical education.

00:52:26.000 I'm sure there's a classical school in the Lexington area.

00:52:28.000 Am I right?

00:52:29.000 Maybe I hope not.

00:52:29.000 Maybe not.

00:52:30.000 I'm sure there's one in this state somewhere.

00:52:32.000 I bet there's a bunch of them.

00:52:33.000 Classical education is the way the American founders were educated.

00:52:37.000 You could do it bibliocentric, or you could do it, which I prefer, or you could do it Greek-centric, or I guess that would be Hellenistic-centric, I guess.

00:52:47.000 I don't know if that's the right term.

00:52:49.000 But basically, classical education gets students to think very deeply about the process of exploring truth from a young age.

00:52:57.000 It is completely against industrial education, which came to really almost everybody here was probably educated industrially.

00:53:05.000 They're going to be studying Aristotle, Socrates, Plato, Augustine, Aquinas.

00:53:09.000 The smartest, deepest kids that I've ever met were classically educated.

00:53:13.000 And I mean, Hillsdale College is a classical education, and they've done a fabulous job of showing the world what's possible through a proper classical education.

00:53:22.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:53:23.000 Appreciate it.

00:53:23.000 Thank you.

00:53:24.000 Thank you.

00:53:26.000 First of all, thanks for coming tonight.

00:53:28.000 I appreciate it.

00:53:30.000 You said earlier that we should never apologize unless we have something to apologize for.

00:53:36.000 My sister and I have grown up in a very conservative Christian environment, and that particular sister has now become very woke extremely on the matter of abortion.

00:53:46.000 We have had a minor argument, and she's decided never to speak to me or my parents again.

00:53:53.000 If I feel that I'm in the right, do I stand firm with my beliefs or do I apologize and try to save that relationship?

00:54:00.000 No, you do not apologize, but you try to reconcile.

00:54:03.000 You need to be actively trying to make sure the relationship stays alive.

00:54:07.000 But do not apologize, because an apology means that you are then admitting that you had wrongdoing.

00:54:13.000 Now, if you got heated or said something you regret, I don't know, maybe not.

00:54:17.000 No.

00:54:18.000 Then you don't have anything to apologize.

00:54:20.000 Never apologize for speaking the truth.

00:54:23.000 But you should try to reconcile.

00:54:24.000 You should have compassion.

00:54:25.000 You should have love.

00:54:27.000 But you should be actively reaching out to try to make sure the bond between your sibling remains alive, because those can go very cold and it can go years and then decades, and that is a bad thing.

00:54:37.000 I do not recommend that happens.

00:54:38.000 You can have differing views with family members and still be on talking terms.

00:54:43.000 It is a tragedy, though, and I'm sure it exists.

00:54:46.000 But 99.9% of every example that I hear to the earlier question is liberals cutting off connection with conservative family members, not conservatives cutting off connection with liberal family members.

00:54:59.000 That's just an interesting thing.

00:55:01.000 But no, if she's asking for an apology, then she's trying to take you hostage, and that's a bad thing.

00:55:08.000 But instead, you could say, you're my sister and I love you.

00:55:11.000 We see things differently.

00:55:12.000 Are you going to allow that difference in certain beliefs get between our bond as siblings?

00:55:19.000 And you have to keep on relentlessly going after that.

00:55:23.000 And I believe eventually, hopefully, you'll be able to have some sort of a firm relationship there.

00:55:28.000 And from the parent standpoint, this is one of the reasons I get so angry with modern secularism.

00:55:34.000 Honoring your mother and father is one of the most important things that a human being can do, period.

00:55:38.000 It doesn't matter if your parents were crummy or awful.

00:55:40.000 If they were legitimately abusive, you have an out.

00:55:43.000 99.9% of the people in this room did not have legitimately abusive parents.

00:55:47.000 Okay?

00:55:48.000 Just not possible.

00:55:49.000 If they were mean to you and all this, it doesn't matter.

00:55:51.000 You must honor your parents.

00:55:53.000 It's good for you.

00:55:54.000 It's good for them.

00:55:55.000 And if you cannot honor your earthly mother and father, you will not be able to honor the divine father.

00:56:01.000 Okay?

00:56:02.000 That's a separate issue.

00:56:04.000 Your parents have to go through an even, I think, harder thing.

00:56:08.000 But let me say this.

00:56:10.000 Your parents are also, I don't know if they've told you this or not, but they would rather have you and your sister on good terms than them on good terms with their daughter.

00:56:20.000 Nothing makes a parent angrier or more sad than when their kids don't talk.

00:56:28.000 It's one thing for kids to get mad at parents.

00:56:30.000 It breaks the heart of parents when their kids won't talk to each other.

00:56:34.000 You say that all throughout the Bible.

00:56:36.000 So do your best to heal that.

00:56:38.000 I hope that's helpful.

00:56:39.000 Thank you very much.

00:56:45.000 Charlie, thanks for coming out tonight.

00:56:47.000 First of all, really appreciate it.

00:56:49.000 I just have a quick question for you.

00:56:51.000 The left seems really good at unification, even under their differences.

00:56:54.000 They seem to continuously win elections even as their ideas shift.

00:56:59.000 Some people that used to be Democrats may not believe this gender stuff, but still seem to vote that direction.

00:57:05.000 But sometimes it seems the Conservative Party continuously loses, even though this happens.

00:57:10.000 What do you propose the solution is?

00:57:12.000 Being conservative, what can we do as a younger generation, but also just what can the Conservative Party do in general?

00:57:18.000 This is one of the best questions I've gotten in a while because I've been thinking about this topic.

00:57:22.000 The conservative movement, and I'm guilty of this, and I'm trying to stop being guilty of it, okay?

00:57:27.000 The conservative movement is held together largely on an anti-woke coalition.

00:57:31.000 It's easy, it's unifying, it's fun.

00:57:33.000 And guess what?

00:57:34.000 It's actually true because the woke is a legitimate threat against everything we love.

00:57:38.000 But you're actually not going to be able to win hearts and minds long term unless you're able to articulate what you believe and why you believe it.

00:57:46.000 And this is why I am an enthusiast for the American founding.

00:57:50.000 I think the American founding needs to be the unifying call of the American right.

00:57:56.000 The American founding was a call into the abyss that we demand self-government.

00:58:01.000 We want strong and local.

00:58:03.000 We want families first.

00:58:05.000 We're not going to put up with the profane or the licentious.

00:58:07.000 And we are going to be able to create a project where human beings can flourish.

00:58:11.000 I want the American right to re-embrace the spirit of the American founding.

00:58:15.000 And I think that can actually unify us, not just our hatred of the woke or our fear of the woke.

00:58:21.000 That is not sustainable long term.

00:58:23.000 We will lose because they'll just metamorphosize, they'll change, they'll lie.

00:58:28.000 A movement can be against things for a short period of time, and then it's brittle and will fall apart.

00:58:34.000 You want staying power, have a goal in the distance.

00:58:37.000 And you've got to give credit, by the way, to the pro-life movement.

00:58:40.000 Look at how good the pro-life movement has been and how successful they've been because they say, we want to repeal Roe versus Wade.

00:58:48.000 And they did it.

00:58:49.000 That's what's so amazing.

00:58:52.000 I mean, they actually got it done.

00:58:55.000 And so we need to have big, far-out aspirational goals that are rooted in the one thing that unifies all of us as conservatives.

00:59:04.000 And it's not religion, even though we are largely Christian.

00:59:07.000 It is what was the promise of the American founding.

00:59:10.000 And the promise of the American founding was not a liberal promise, because actually that's what's taught in a lot of our schools.

00:59:15.000 The founders were actually liberal and they hated religion.

00:59:17.000 Not true.

00:59:19.000 They actually were faith-filled people.

00:59:21.000 55 of 56 of the signers of the Declaration were Bible-believing church-attending Christians, but they understood biblical principles and relayed them directly into the most successful, longest-lasting constitutional project in world history.

00:59:34.000 That's something I think as conservatives we should re-embrace, and that could be a vision that could keep us together the same way the left has been kept together.

00:59:41.000 Thank you.

00:59:42.000 Thank you.

00:59:42.000 Appreciate it.

00:59:47.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:48.000 So I'm currently a sophomore here at the University of Kentucky.

00:59:53.000 And something I feel that I have picked up on in my time here is that there seems to be a lack of enthusiasm for politics, religion.

01:00:01.000 Yep.

01:00:03.000 A plethora of things.

01:00:05.000 And so really my question is: why do you think that that is, and how might that enthusiasm be restored?

01:00:14.000 This is not a phenomenon that is just in Lexington.

01:00:19.000 It's really interesting.

01:00:20.000 Outside of a couple campuses, you know, I have visited University of California, Berkeley, and have spoken there six times now, five or six times.

01:00:28.000 And every time I go, I see a different type of student body.

01:00:35.000 And I'll be very honest, I miss what I used to see.

01:00:39.000 What I used to see when I used to go to University of California, Berkeley were students that were totally wrong, but they had energy and they were involved and they had spirit.

01:00:48.000 And some of them were rather awful, but they weren't cynical.

01:00:54.000 What bothers me in my recent visits to Berkeley is there is a kind of a malaise of cynicism.

01:01:00.000 And I'm guessing you're seeing the same thing where people are like, what does it all matter?

01:01:04.000 It doesn't impact me.

01:01:06.000 That's disturbing.

01:01:08.000 And the question you're asking is the age-old question of the philosopher, how can I get people to care about the stuff I care about?

01:01:14.000 Not an easy answer.

01:01:14.000 Right?

01:01:16.000 Events like this help, right?

01:01:18.000 Hopefully when things start to get more real, and I mean, I don't know what could be more real than your salvation, but that's my own personal opinion, right?

01:01:26.000 But you have to have ambassadors like we have at Turning Point USA that care.

01:01:30.000 If you care, you can get other people to care.

01:01:32.000 But if then you allow yourself to be impacted by the cynicism, then those ideas and those values will die.

01:01:37.000 Does that make sense?

01:01:38.000 But understand that this Gen Z, I think I said this earlier, most suicidal, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted generation in history, incredibly cynical about all things politics, all thing government, all thing religion, least religious generation in history. 0.98

01:01:50.000 It's really sad.

01:01:52.000 And I hope you guys can tell me that the revival, I don't know if the revival is still going on here.

01:01:56.000 It happened right down the street.

01:01:56.000 Praise God.

01:01:57.000 Anyone from Asbury here?

01:01:59.000 Yeah, praise God.

01:01:59.000 Anybody?

01:02:01.000 And you guys inspired so many millions of people across the country.

01:02:04.000 I don't know if it's still going on in other places.

01:02:08.000 I love that.

01:02:09.000 I want to see more of that.

01:02:10.000 I think it's important.

01:02:12.000 But boy, if there was ever a generation that was just ripe for a legitimate revival, it would be this one.

01:02:20.000 And I hope that can happen soon.

01:02:21.000 Thank you.

01:02:22.000 Appreciate it.

01:02:22.000 Thank you.

01:02:27.000 I was wondering, what do you think about boycotting liberal companies?

01:02:33.000 Yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm torn on it.

01:02:35.000 Probably a good idea.

01:02:38.000 But, I mean, I'm not going to use Hershey's anytime soon, right?

01:02:41.000 I mean, that's a good example.

01:02:43.000 I do encourage people.

01:02:44.000 The only thing is, because we used to complain about boycotts all the time, but it's probably time that we use it as a tactic, right?

01:02:50.000 To just say, you know what, I'm not going to voluntarily use my dollars against my value system and my deeply held beliefs, right?

01:02:58.000 And so I would do a positive twist on it, which is try to find conservative companies that share your values.

01:03:06.000 Everybody here should have the Rumble app on your phone.

01:03:09.000 Stop using YouTube and use Rumble, as we're streaming live on YouTube, by the way.

01:03:14.000 Try to find alternatives in the parallel economy.

01:03:14.000 Use Rumble.

01:03:17.000 And let me just say this: and this is one of the things, this is one of the things I can't stand about the modern cynical attitude.

01:03:23.000 It just drives me nuts.

01:03:24.000 For every young person out there, we need a new generation of entrepreneurs now more than ever.

01:03:29.000 If you have an idea, act on that idea.

01:03:32.000 We need entrepreneurs.

01:03:33.000 We need people to take risks.

01:03:35.000 We need them more than ever, especially ones that see the world the way we do.

01:03:40.000 So, thank you.

01:03:40.000 Appreciate it.

01:03:41.000 Thank you.

01:03:45.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:03:46.000 My name's Holly.

01:03:47.000 Thank you for being here.

01:03:48.000 So, I hate to like circle back because I know we already touched on this, but when you said man is above earth, is that correct?

01:03:55.000 Nature, yeah.

01:03:55.000 Nature, excuse me.

01:03:56.000 Yes.

01:03:57.000 So, I know like a big issue here in Kentucky is Rubbertown, which is located west of Louisville.

01:04:05.000 So, how can we allow people to live in cities like this?

01:04:08.000 I'm not sure if you're familiar with it.

01:04:09.000 When this is not very, can you just give me this?

01:04:12.000 Yeah, so essentially, there's industrial plants right next to neighborhoods, and cancer rates and health rates are dramatically worse here because of this.

01:04:20.000 How can we let people live in these environments if we want man to be successful and throw and grow and grow here?

01:04:28.000 Yeah, that's actually, I think we're going to agree because you're using really good facts that interest me, which is human cancer rates and human flourishing.

01:04:38.000 So, we're on the same page.

01:04:40.000 We should always put human beings first.

01:04:43.000 Where I disagree is if you came here and you said, Well, Charlie, the squirrels are suffering.

01:04:48.000 I couldn't care less about the squirrels.

01:04:50.000 I care about the humans.

01:04:51.000 And so, I think I don't know the details of the story.

01:04:54.000 I don't know if it's overblown or if it's right down the middle.

01:04:57.000 I literally don't.

01:04:58.000 And I'm going to take you at your word that it's legitimate.

01:05:02.000 Then, the policy position should always be what is best for the human being, right?

01:05:07.000 And this is something at times where conservatives are afraid to articulate it in that sense.

01:05:14.000 But let me give you an example that prompted my dialogue, which is in California, there's massive droughts, massive, massive droughts, okay?

01:05:23.000 And it could be solved in some sense if they would just open up some of the aqueducts and take some of the water actually from the Central Valley, but it might kill something called the Delta Smelt, which is a fish that no one's ever heard of and no one really cares about except radical environmentalists.

01:05:38.000 And so, that's an example of putting an animal or a creature above human beings.

01:05:43.000 Because, I mean, if you're talking about human beings being impacted, then you have my attention and my sympathy.

01:05:48.000 Do you?

01:05:49.000 I'm curious to see why government or local officials aren't taking a bigger step in acknowledging how harmful this is.

01:05:57.000 Because I know a lot of people that live in these neighborhoods can't afford to just pick up everything and move to the nice part of town.

01:06:03.000 So, why aren't we supporting them or allowing them access to cleaner air out of an industrial chemical plant?

01:06:10.000 Yeah, if I were to speculate without knowing all the details, it's probably because of some powerful people that control the local area.

01:06:17.000 I'm just speculating.

01:06:18.000 Is that probably right?

01:06:19.000 And I think that this is actually a very interesting point of agreement, which is we put human beings first, right?

01:06:27.000 And human beings, industry should serve human beings.

01:06:30.000 Human beings should not serve industry.

01:06:32.000 And as a conservative, it actually get pushback on that, right?

01:06:39.000 People say, Well, Charlie, come on, what about markets first?

01:06:42.000 I'm kind of a human beings first guy, right?

01:06:45.000 Which is markets should serve human beings, human beings should not serve markets, right?

01:06:50.000 And I'll use a separate example that I know a lot better, which is what happened in East Palestine, Ohio, is completely and totally unacceptable, right?

01:06:59.000 From the environmental toxins and from Norfolk Southern.

01:07:03.000 And so, what you'll find from me is I am a free market capitalist guy, but I'm not an automatic default cheerleader for every corporate interest.

01:07:10.000 I'm not, nor do I think you should be as a conservative.

01:07:13.000 Do I think there's sometimes more to the story?

01:07:14.000 Do I think there's nuance?

01:07:16.000 But if we're honest with ourselves, we as conservatives don't like powerful organizations.

01:07:16.000 Yes.

01:07:21.000 That's why I don't like the government very much.

01:07:23.000 And what I've learned is that some of these transnational corporations sometimes don't work any better than the government.

01:07:28.000 I don't know the specifics of your example, but you certainly think we're actually agreeing largely on a lot of things.

01:07:33.000 I just wanted to get your thought.

01:07:33.000 Yes, I think so too.

01:07:34.000 Thank you.

01:07:35.000 Appreciate it.

01:07:35.000 Thank you.

01:07:40.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:07:41.000 Thank you for being here.

01:07:42.000 My name is Tammy Nolan.

01:07:43.000 I'm from the Bellevue, Kentucky area.

01:07:45.000 My son, Caleb, was in the sixth grade in the Bellevue public school system.

01:07:51.000 He is biracial when he was told to choose his race.

01:07:55.000 Yes, by two teachers there.

01:07:57.000 And I actually took the school to court, sued them, and won.

01:08:02.000 I've now homeschooled him since that.

01:08:06.000 But my question to you is: what do we do about the teachers who they fire, and then they just put them in another school district?

01:08:14.000 There's not a lot you can do about that currently.

01:08:15.000 I mean, taking back school boards and reforming them.

01:08:18.000 I am curious: why did they even care about your kids' race in sixth grade?

01:08:22.000 Because they knew I was a big Trump fan, and we made it very well known, so they targeted him.

01:08:27.000 That's just so sick. 0.76

01:08:28.000 Sixth graders caring about their race.

01:08:30.000 Like, how about you care about telling the truth, right?

01:08:32.000 And they told him, don't come home and tell your mom, or there would be consequences.

01:08:36.000 So, of course, there were consequences because I was up there in their face.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, good for you. 1.00

01:08:41.000 By the way, we need more moms like you. 0.94

01:08:43.000 So, I mean that.

01:08:46.000 I don't have a good answer for you on what to do with relocated teachers after they do that, except that if your kid is in government schools, you have to hawk those schools, right?

01:08:57.000 Correct.

01:08:58.000 Hawk the curriculum, hawk the teachers.

01:09:00.000 And I also want to acknowledge: when I say I'm going to homeschool my kids and go to private school, not every family has the income to be able to do that, or the private schools that have the accessibility.

01:09:12.000 And so then you got to fight, which is exactly what you're doing.

01:09:14.000 Right.

01:09:15.000 And I know you were talking about the books that are to be the pornography books that are being pulled off.

01:09:19.000 They're legitimate.

01:09:20.000 You've got one of the biggest fighters right here in my country. 1.00

01:09:22.000 Moms for Liberty, God bless you. 1.00

01:09:23.000 Moms for Liberty has done that in our county.

01:09:26.000 I love it.

01:09:26.000 God bless you.

01:09:27.000 Thank you.

01:09:31.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:09:32.000 My name is David Gent.

01:09:33.000 I'm a freshman here at University of Kentucky.

01:09:35.000 And today we had somebody come and claim to be a Christian and was basically protesting homosexuality and things like that. 0.95

01:09:44.000 But along the way, what I think was maybe meant with good intention started becoming them saying to the crowd, you're going to hell and you're going to hell. 0.89

01:09:52.000 And I don't like that.

01:09:53.000 So, no, and I don't like it either.

01:09:55.000 I think it's a large misrepresentation of Christianity being based on love and things like that.

01:10:01.000 And so, how do you face tough topics like that without that do have to do with emotions?

01:10:08.000 Politics ties in with emotions.

01:10:09.000 Religion ties in with emotions. 0.96

01:10:11.000 So, how do you talk to somebody who is homosexual or something like that without offending them while still providing them with truth?

01:10:18.000 I mean, look, they're made in the image of God, and I mean this, and I don't like that language at all for a lot of reasons.

01:10:24.000 And also, it's just, I do believe in hell.

01:10:27.000 Let me be very clear.

01:10:28.000 I'm not one of those Christians, right? 0.93

01:10:30.000 But I also don't believe that anyone should go around with certainty that you know where somebody is going and their eternal destination.

01:10:36.000 I think that's really wrong.

01:10:37.000 I think that's theological hubris.

01:10:39.000 I really do.

01:10:40.000 I believe you can know your destination and what your salvation is, and then be careful when you start shouting at people.

01:10:47.000 Also, I just think it's cruel and ineffective and actually makes it harder to win people over.

01:10:52.000 And that's not exactly the way that I would do it at all.

01:10:54.000 But look, it's very simple.

01:10:57.000 I believe in the natural law, and I believe in the potential of all human beings to be able to flourish as God intended them.

01:11:03.000 And I wade into the most controversial, hardest topics.

01:11:06.000 I do my best to try to do it with some form of whimsy and grace.

01:11:10.000 Also, be blunt, though, right?

01:11:13.000 But my heart is to try to get people, and I love people, that are made in the image of the Creator to be able to live the way that I believe they're best suited to live.

01:11:22.000 And I'm afraid some people do more damage than good in that regard, based on the example that you've delivered there.

01:11:28.000 And it sounds like that got very emotional and very personal, right?

01:11:33.000 And so I don't know if that fully answers your question, but you can also see lots and lots of videos of me dealing with those kind of discussions there, right?

01:11:40.000 Yeah.

01:11:41.000 That I think are really important.

01:11:42.000 So thank you.

01:11:47.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:11:48.000 I'm Logan.

01:11:49.000 It's very nice to meet you and great to have you here.

01:11:51.000 So I'm currently a freshman at a BCTC community college here in Lexington.

01:11:57.000 And last semester, I did a final paper in my English class, and I decided to do it over election integrity.

01:12:04.000 And right after my professor gave me feedback, I could tell he was a liberal or whatever.

01:12:10.000 And he said those claims or whatever had been discredited.

01:12:14.000 How do you deal with a professor who has different political views so you can be on good terms with them despite that?

01:12:20.000 Did you get a good grade eventually?

01:12:23.000 I did get a great grade.

01:12:24.000 You got to fight for it, though, right?

01:12:25.000 Probably, yeah.

01:12:25.000 Yes, sir.

01:12:26.000 Good for you.

01:12:27.000 So look, you have to make a decision.

01:12:29.000 This is where my friend Ben Shapiro and I disagree, right?

01:12:32.000 So if you asked Ben Shapiro this question, Ben would say, just write what the professor wants to hear and get out of there as quickly as possible, right?

01:12:44.000 I don't hold that view.

01:12:45.000 I think you've got to tell the truth always, no matter what age or circumstance or environment that you're in.

01:12:50.000 If that means you might get a lower grade, then so be it.

01:12:53.000 If that means that you might get treated harshly, I believe the spoken truth is important for every person to do wherever they are constantly and relentlessly for the rest of their life.

01:13:03.000 I don't think there should be an on and off switch based on like, well, I want a good grade or all that.

01:13:08.000 But you must acknowledge that there will be a price and that you might not be treated fairly because of it.

01:13:15.000 But it will make you stronger.

01:13:17.000 And that's what's important.

01:13:18.000 You will become a stronger, tougher person for having to go through that.

01:13:22.000 You probably are, right?

01:13:23.000 You had to defend your position.

01:13:24.000 You had to go into that tough environment.

01:13:27.000 And this is one of my big pieces of advice for young people is seek out the hard and difficult situations.

01:13:34.000 Seek out the hard and difficult environments.

01:13:36.000 It will make you tougher.

01:13:38.000 A fragile person, which many people on the left are fragile because they never have to defend their positions, will have a much harder time surviving in this world.

01:13:46.000 God bless you.

01:13:47.000 I agree.

01:13:47.000 Thank you.

01:13:48.000 Thank you for your time.

01:13:49.000 Thanks.

01:13:51.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:13:54.000 As we become increasingly aware that wokeism is grounded in an ancient esoteric religion, in a cult, how do we prevent it from falling under the protections of the First Amendment?

01:14:10.000 As it's antithetical to humanity, as some other religions may also be? 1.00

01:14:17.000 That's a good question.

01:14:18.000 Thank you.

01:14:19.000 The issue, yeah, it's really good.

01:14:20.000 The issue is our judges are so screwed up, I could see them probably issuing some opinion.

01:14:25.000 What you mentioned is really important, which is that the elements of wokeism are very similar to river civilization paganism, right? 0.97

01:14:33.000 Whether it be earth worship or whether it be any of these different things, even from the, it's almost like pseudo-alchemy and Gnosticism.

01:14:42.000 And if you go read the original books on Gnosticism and Hermeticism, it's about how you're able to change your being based on your own will and your own feeling.

01:14:51.000 Now, 20 years ago, you guys would have laughed me offstage if I would have said that it would be the predominant view of public American life, that they could change your own existence based on your thoughts.

01:15:02.000 Now it's considered to be trans.

01:15:04.000 They're like, oh yeah, of course you could just change.

01:15:06.000 That's a Gnostic belief is what it is.

01:15:10.000 I don't know how to protect against it, except we have to defeat them.

01:15:14.000 I mean, I could see that they would have to file themselves as an official religion, which there is a threshold, thankfully, the federal government has. 0.99

01:15:21.000 It means you have to have a book, well, they have white fragility.

01:15:23.000 You have to have a leader.

01:15:24.000 Well, they have Robin DiAngelo and Ibram X. Kendi and all these people.

01:15:27.000 You'd have to have religious ceremonies.

01:15:29.000 Well, they have those too.

01:15:30.000 So they actually might satisfy some of the religious requirements more easily than I think we give them credit for.

01:15:36.000 God bless you.

01:15:37.000 Thank you.

01:15:38.000 All right, the last question.

01:15:40.000 Howdy, Mr. Kirk.

01:15:42.000 My name is Ethan.

01:15:43.000 I'm a refugee from California.

01:15:45.000 I just got here maybe October.

01:15:49.000 I now live in Crab Orchard.

01:15:51.000 I saw your ad on Facebook maybe about two hours ago.

01:15:54.000 I got rid of, I fed the cows and I got in my truck and I came down here.

01:15:54.000 Oh, wow.

01:15:57.000 I love it.

01:15:58.000 I unfortunately missed the first half.

01:15:59.000 I'm kind of sad about that.

01:16:01.000 But my question is, is that I'm a second generation Korean American.

01:16:05.000 Now I'm a proud Kentucky.

01:16:07.000 My grandmother was born in North Korea.

01:16:10.000 Wow.

01:16:11.000 And she escaped to the South because of NATO forces, but mostly American, in a one-month window.

01:16:17.000 So that 30 days could have meant that I would have been there, not here.

01:16:21.000 Moved to California, my mother, and that was a, America was a passion of freedom, and it always was to our family.

01:16:29.000 I listened to you and Ben, well, I'm stuck on the 405 for many years, so it's pretty cool that I'm actually right here.

01:16:37.000 I can't believe it, right?

01:16:39.000 I had to leave California.

01:16:41.000 It got so bad.

01:16:42.000 The crime went through the roof, especially with the Black Lives Matter riots. 0.99

01:16:47.000 My neighbors were getting assaulted.

01:16:49.000 Korean friends of mine were getting attacked on the streets.

01:16:51.000 It's a big problem.

01:16:53.000 It's black on Asian crime, and no one wants to talk about it. 1.00

01:16:56.000 Yeah, really, no one wants to talk about that.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, we're supposedly part of the minority, and we completely disagree on a lot of what the left is doing.

01:17:03.000 So my question is, is what my grandmother and my mother saw in California when they came over here was no longer like that.

01:17:12.000 How do I, as an individual, help keep that from happening in Kentucky?

01:17:17.000 And how do conservatives in general keep that from happening in their own states?

01:17:22.000 That's such a good question, and I'm glad you're in Kentucky.

01:17:25.000 We need you here.

01:17:26.000 Let me mention a couple things.

01:17:28.000 You have a distant memory via your mother, you said.

01:17:31.000 Your grandmother was in North Korea?

01:17:32.000 My grandmother was born in North Korea, yes.

01:17:35.000 You have a distant memory of totalitarianism, but you also have an immediate memory of totalitarianism because you lived in California.

01:17:41.000 It was pretty bad.

01:17:41.000 And isn't it interesting that your family's history will now be two chapters of fleeing tyranny?

01:17:48.000 Fleeing North Korea and then fleeing California.

01:17:51.000 I want to avoid a third time.

01:17:53.000 Huh?

01:17:53.000 I would like to avoid a third time.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, no kidding.

01:17:55.000 I don't want to have to have you flee Kentucky.

01:17:57.000 Let me tell you some personal advice.

01:17:59.000 You need to tell your story to as many people as possible.

01:18:02.000 You need to wake up Americans to how bad things can actually get.

01:18:06.000 They have no idea, first of all, what happened or happens in North Korea, and they have no idea, largely in this, they kind of hear stories about California, about how wretched that hellscape is actually becoming. 0.84

01:18:17.000 And so personal, first-hand testimony from people like you is incredibly important.

01:18:22.000 And you showing up to this event, listening to our podcast, and supporting us is incredibly helpful and important.

01:18:29.000 But memories are critical.

01:18:32.000 This is one of the reasons why that the Chinese Communist Party has been successful is because there's no generations left in China that have memories of freedom.

01:18:43.000 Not a single person that remembers what it was like to not be under Maoist CCP reign.

01:18:50.000 And it's equally as important to have memories of how bad things can actually become.

01:18:55.000 And that's why your voice is so incredibly important because we hear from left-wing activists, oh, things can't get that bad.

01:19:01.000 It's fine.

01:19:02.000 You know, we need more government or power.

01:19:04.000 You could be a first-hand testament to that.

01:19:06.000 One thing that I have noticed is: if anyone here can think of another place that you can escape to for freedom, I'd like to know, because I think that we're it.

01:19:15.000 This is it.

01:19:17.000 You can't go anywhere else.

01:19:18.000 You got to stand and fight at some point.

01:19:20.000 And I think that point is now.

01:19:22.000 So, God bless you.

01:19:23.000 Thank you so much.

01:19:24.000 All right.

01:19:26.000 I want to wrap some things up.

01:19:27.000 Thank you guys for the great questions.

01:19:28.000 I love Kentucky.

01:19:30.000 And I was actually here two years ago right on this stage.

01:19:32.000 And it was a great event.

01:19:34.000 And this one was equally as good.

01:19:36.000 If you are young and you're conservative, please dedicate part of your life to this fight every single day.

01:19:42.000 10 minutes of listening to a podcast, five minutes of watching a YouTube video.

01:19:46.000 Make it part of your daily routine.

01:19:48.000 We need every single young person that shares our values to lean in and to do something about it.

01:19:53.000 Our country is really, no pun intended, at a turning point in more ways than one.

01:19:58.000 And again, people ask me all the time, Charlie, are you optimistic or are you pessimistic?

01:20:03.000 In fact, I had somebody come up to me the other day.

01:20:04.000 They said, Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.

01:20:07.000 Everything.

01:20:08.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

01:20:09.000 I bought the pillow.

01:20:11.000 I have done everything that has been asked of me.

01:20:13.000 By the way, promo code Kirk at mypillow.com, just so we're clear.

01:20:17.000 And I say, there's always more you can do.

01:20:20.000 And the work that Turning Point USA is doing every single day, starting chapters, fighting on campuses, is critically important.

01:20:26.000 But it's going to take every single one of you with your prayers and your action.

01:20:30.000 Good people need to do more in this dark hour.

01:20:35.000 You can always give more.

01:20:36.000 You can always push harder.

01:20:37.000 Our country needs every single one of you right now.

01:20:39.000 God bless you and God bless Kentucky.

01:20:41.000 Thank you.

01:20:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:20:46.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:20:49.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

01:20:54.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 12, 2023

Charlie Speaks LIVE From the University of Kentucky

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript