The Charlie Kirk Show - Charlie Tackles Deion Sanders Buzz: Is He Ready for Prime Time? + Hide Your Children with Liz Wheeler

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00:00:02.000 My take on Deion Sanders, Dan Lanning, the Ducks of Oregon, a little college football and cultural take. 0.59

00:00:07.000 And then we have Liz Wheeler, author of Hide Your Children, to talk about the agenda to take your children away from you.

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00:01:21.000 So we haven't touched on this, but as some of you may or may not know, I am a college football fanatic.

00:01:28.000 I know that it's a contradiction.

00:01:30.000 Charlie, you say don't go to college. 0.75

00:01:31.000 You say they're all Marxist hellholes.

00:01:33.000 I get it. 0.94

00:01:33.000 I fully acknowledge it. 0.94

00:01:35.000 You can call me a hypocrite. 0.95

00:01:36.000 You could say that it's a double standard. 0.96

00:01:38.000 I don't care.

00:01:39.000 I love college football.

00:01:41.000 I love everything about it.

00:01:43.000 I love the unpredictability.

00:01:45.000 I love the recruiting.

00:01:47.000 I love the authenticity of the players.

00:01:51.000 I love all of it.

00:01:52.000 I love the crowds, love the passion.

00:01:53.000 I love the regalia.

00:01:55.000 I love the play calling, the innovation.

00:01:58.000 The NFL is nowhere nearly as entertaining, in my personal opinion, as college football.

00:02:03.000 So I've been a college football aficionado for years, and my family all went to the University of Oregon, and we become huge.

00:02:09.000 I was a huge Ducks fan growing up, a major Ducks fan, and remain one.

00:02:13.000 I mean, when I mean major, it's like the day the earth stood still when the Ducks are on.

00:02:19.000 Anybody in my inner circle will tell you that it's not even a joke.

00:02:23.000 You pay attention, you watch it, right?

00:02:25.000 And so I watch the Ducks, love the Ducks.

00:02:27.000 I've had a chance to get to know a lot of players, both former and current members on the staff.

00:02:31.000 Just great, great people.

00:02:33.000 And I know I'm going to get emails.

00:02:34.000 Charlie, University of Oregon, super liberal.

00:02:36.000 I don't care.

00:02:37.000 This is the one thing I carve out in my life that I enjoy.

00:02:37.000 Okay.

00:02:41.000 So grant me a little bit of mercy in that.

00:02:43.000 So there's this, the number one story in basically all of sports.

00:02:47.000 And one of the largest stories in American culture has been prime time, Deion Sanders.

00:02:56.000 Now, I saw Deion take the University of Colorado job in the spring.

00:03:02.000 I think it was early winter.

00:03:03.000 I was like, wow, that's interesting.

00:03:04.000 I just kind of stopped thinking about it.

00:03:06.000 Now, to say that Colorado was bad last year is like, you can't even say that.

00:03:14.000 Colorado was 1-11.

00:03:16.000 1-11.

00:03:18.000 That's at the bottom of the barrel.

00:03:22.000 They were the worst program in FBS, as bad as it gets.

00:03:27.000 I mean, worse than, you know, Iona, okay? 0.98

00:03:31.000 The trash heap of college football.

00:03:33.000 So Deion comes in, and it's pretty legendary what he did, is he said, basically, I am not going, he did this in a very creative way because you can't revoke a scholarship.

00:03:44.000 But I think you get 86 scholarships in FBS college, Division I football.

00:03:48.000 He comes in and he says basically to 83 out of 86, I'm not going to play you.

00:03:53.000 I'll honor your scholarship, but you're not on the team.

00:03:56.000 Basically, he kicked off 80, effectively, kicked 83 people off the team and kept like three linemen, like purging the entire team.

00:04:05.000 So then he became the transfer portal landing pet, including his very talented two sons, Shadur and Shiloh Sanders.

00:04:13.000 So he brings in all new people, and we're like, oh, what are we going to make of this, right?

00:04:17.000 And look, Deion runs his mouth.

00:04:19.000 And I have a lot of negative things to say about Deion that I think I don't like about him, but I also, there's some things I really like about him.

00:04:25.000 His faith, his love of Jesus, his unapologetic Christian evangelism.

00:04:31.000 He wears a JC on the side of his shirt, which is Jesus Christ.

00:04:38.000 And it drives the liberals at Boulder crazy.

00:04:43.000 I know this.

00:04:43.000 I was just talking to a regent this last weekend.

00:04:45.000 There's like an inner revolt at CU Boulder to try to get Deion Sanders to not have JC, Jesus Christ, on his shirt that he wears during the game.

00:04:54.000 But it's prime time, everybody, so they have nothing to say.

00:04:56.000 So I mean, I read the college football blogs, and honestly, I follow him on social media.

00:05:01.000 He posts stuff like this.

00:05:02.000 He posted this just yesterday.

00:05:04.000 God made you different for a reason.

00:05:06.000 He acknowledges that there is a God, that you are not him.

00:05:06.000 Don't change.

00:05:09.000 Honestly, praise God that one of the top people on the American cultural landscape is not some sort of bitter atheist Marxist.

00:05:16.000 I'll get into the negative parts of Deion because there's plenty of them.

00:05:19.000 But that needs to be said.

00:05:20.000 I am cheering for his faith.

00:05:22.000 The more he talks about the faith, I think that's a good thing for the country.

00:05:26.000 Okay, so I was following the college football blogs over the summer, and we didn't know what to make of it.

00:05:30.000 And then I was on vacation, obviously watching college football, and it was Colorado versus TCU.

00:05:36.000 Now, remember, TCU was in the national title game last year against Georgia.

00:05:39.000 They beat Michigan in the College Football playoff.

00:05:41.000 They were a great team, and they were bringing back a lot of players from last year's incredible run all the way to the College Football playoff where they got blown up by Georgia.

00:05:48.000 So here's Colorado, the worst team.

00:05:51.000 They go 1-11 last year versus TCU, who went 11-1, or like 12-1.

00:05:56.000 And I think their only two losses was basically, I think they lost in the Big 12 championship game to Kansas State, and then they lost to Georgia in the national title game.

00:06:04.000 And Colorado beats them.

00:06:06.000 And so everyone just starts going nuts.

00:06:08.000 They go wild.

00:06:09.000 What is this?

00:06:10.000 And it becomes prime time.

00:06:11.000 Now, to say this became a phenomenon would be an under hype train off the rails.

00:06:16.000 College game day goes.

00:06:18.000 There's this also like cheat man's competitor on called Big Noon Sunday with like all the washed up guys, Matt Leinert, Reggie Bush, and Urban Meyer, which I think is hilarious because Matt Leinert and Reggie Bush both played together. 0.80

00:06:29.000 And Brady Quinn, who was also the quarterback at Notre Dame at the time, and they all kind of host this.

00:06:35.000 It's a little bit of like a Cheat Man's College game day.

00:06:37.000 They are now going back to Colorado for the third time to do their live college game day show, the third time.

00:06:42.000 It's hype off the rails.

00:06:44.000 It was just out of control.

00:06:45.000 And then Nebraska with a new coach, not very good, Matt Rule, comes, and Colorado blows him out.

00:06:49.000 And so they just got out of control, okay?

00:06:51.000 Completely and totally out of control.

00:06:53.000 And Deion is Deion.

00:06:54.000 I mean, Deion, you can't look away from him, right?

00:06:56.000 He's wearing sunglasses, a hat.

00:06:57.000 He's got energy.

00:06:58.000 He's got passion.

00:06:59.000 He's got Zing. 0.96

00:07:00.000 And his players and sons, let's just say, they talk a little bit too much.

00:07:07.000 But this is look, I appreciate, look at this kind of attitude.

00:07:10.000 Okay, play cut 131.

00:07:12.000 What is your mindset when people have opinions?

00:07:14.000 What do you do with that?

00:07:16.000 Do you just block it out or don't care?

00:07:19.000 Look at me.

00:07:21.000 What about me would make you think that I care about your opinion of me?

00:07:26.000 Your opinion of me is not the opinion that I have of myself.

00:07:30.000 You ain't make me so you can't break me.

00:07:34.000 You didn't build me so you can't kill me.

00:07:36.000 I love it, but I don't care.

00:07:39.000 And I wish the world thought like that.

00:07:41.000 Youngsters, if you're out there right now, do not give a darn what opinions people have of you, as long as that opinion is not consistent with that of yourself. 0.79

00:07:50.000 You be you.

00:07:51.000 I'm not playing to make you feel good about me.

00:07:54.000 I already feel good about me.

00:07:55.000 I'm good.

00:07:56.000 Now, this is a fact.

00:07:57.000 You can hate on Deion, and I certainly am going to offer some criticism in a second, but the dude was a legendary athlete.

00:08:05.000 Here's a fact.

00:08:06.000 He's the only player ever to play in a Super Bowl and a World Series.

00:08:12.000 That's right.

00:08:13.000 He was not a two-sport athlete.

00:08:14.000 He was an excellent two-sport athlete.

00:08:16.000 He was very good at baseball.

00:08:19.000 Like very good playing for both the Braves and the Falcons.

00:08:22.000 Unheard of.

00:08:24.000 I mean, Michael Jordan tried, but not even close to being as good.

00:08:27.000 Like, Deion Sanders did not do baseball for fun.

00:08:30.000 He was a great baseball player.

00:08:33.000 And he has a ton of something.

00:08:34.000 He's got like five kids, and they are all pretty close.

00:08:38.000 So coming into this weekend, Colorado was undefeated.

00:08:41.000 They came from behind in a game that was far too close against Colorado State.

00:08:44.000 And Norvell, the coach of Colorado State, was talking a big game.

00:08:47.000 You know, my mama told me not to do press conferences with sunglasses and a hat on.

00:08:51.000 And look, Colorado plays into this, right?

00:08:53.000 They say, oh, you know, they made it personal.

00:08:55.000 They made it personal.

00:08:57.000 Let's play Cut 129.

00:08:59.000 60 minutes dedicated half their show to primetime.

00:09:02.000 Play Cut 129.

00:09:03.000 Who's the best coach in college football today?

00:09:06.000 Let me see a mirror so I can look at him.

00:09:11.000 You feel that?

00:09:13.000 You think I'm going to sit up here and tell you somebody else?

00:09:17.000 You think that's the way I operate?

00:09:18.000 That somebody else got that on me?

00:09:21.000 Now, here's what drives me nuts, and we're going to segue this into the next segment.

00:09:25.000 Instead of talking about Deion's faith, how he empowers his kids, how he empowers his student athletes, about how he pushes them, the media, of course, of course, makes this about race.

00:09:39.000 CNN.com.

00:09:41.000 They hate Deion Sanders because of his audacious blackness.

00:09:47.000 What does that even mean?

00:09:50.000 And then it rolled over into the Oregon game this weekend.

00:09:52.000 And I'm going to tell you the full story here.

00:09:55.000 Deion plays a little bit too much into the BLM stuff at times.

00:09:58.000 You could call him DEI on, you know, Deon.

00:10:02.000 I'm going to grant him a little bit of mercy.

00:10:04.000 He's not a political guy.

00:10:06.000 He's at a very liberal school.

00:10:07.000 He's wearing Jesus Christ on his shirt.

00:10:11.000 So I give him a lot of grace, I'll be honest.

00:10:14.000 He should teach his kids a lesson, though, because they were run in their mouth this weekend, last weekend, and they got taught a lesson.

00:10:23.000 And then I'm going to show you a clip of where the media is now accusing the head coach of Oregon football, Dan Lanning, who's amazing, of being a racist because he dared to out Deion Deion Sanders.

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00:11:41.000 So Deion Sanders does this thing.

00:11:43.000 And I'm going to, I'm being overly generous because I have plenty of criticism.

00:11:46.000 Not all that I have to air because he's got a tough job and he's been thrown into this, but he's big time.

00:11:51.000 I think this is a beautiful story, though.

00:11:53.000 I think that if he's becoming a father figure to young black men whose fathers are in prison, praise God, it's a great thing.

00:12:01.000 Look at this, play cut 130.

00:12:03.000 We had an instance on the sideline this last game where Jimmy was having a horrific game.

00:12:09.000 He's a receiver, Jimmy Horn. 0.94

00:12:11.000 And I said, Jimmy, you're a dog. 0.87

00:12:13.000 He's from Florida, man. 0.98

00:12:15.000 And guess what?

00:12:16.000 Pop is at the crib and he's incarcerated watching you right now.

00:12:20.000 And he wants to clap in front of all his different inmates because he believes in his son.

00:12:26.000 We're going to make Pop thrive tonight. 0.60

00:12:28.000 That's what we're going to do because his son is a dog.

00:12:31.000 And you go out there and show the world who you are.

00:12:35.000 And in return, he went and caught the touchdown, the gangtime touchdown.

00:12:39.000 And he was having life to Jimmy and understand where he was, where he was located.

00:12:46.000 I've been there because I sympathize and empathize with him.

00:12:50.000 And I know his background and his situation.

00:12:53.000 So I'm able to pull that intangible out of him that I can connect to him in a pivotal time like that.

00:12:59.000 And that's why I got to know my, I got to know my kids.

00:13:01.000 I got to know this team.

00:13:03.000 I got to know them individually as well as collectively.

00:13:06.000 And so at times he plays into, unfortunately, Deion plays a little bit into some of the BLM narratives, the us versus them type stuff.

00:13:13.000 But all Cinderella stories have to come to an end.

00:13:18.000 So they went to a double overtime game against Colorado State.

00:13:21.000 They were exhausted.

00:13:23.000 And even Tom Brady kind of warned Shadur Sanders, like, hey, spend more time watching tape than buying Rolls-Royces because now with the NIL, these kids are just getting flush with cash.

00:13:35.000 That's a bad part of college football.

00:13:36.000 I don't like it.

00:13:37.000 These kids are making far too much money at a young age.

00:13:41.000 So it all comes to now, Oregon.

00:13:43.000 So this, to say this was a national spectacle, this was like a mini Super Bowl.

00:13:47.000 Okay.

00:13:48.000 I mean, it was on ABC Network television.

00:13:50.000 Colorado was undefeated.

00:13:51.000 You have prime time.

00:13:53.000 And here are the Ducks of Oregon who really haven't received a lot of hype this year.

00:13:57.000 Very, very good football team.

00:13:58.000 I was at the Texas Tech Oregon game, and that was a great game.

00:14:01.000 So enter Dan Lanning, who is like 10 out of 10 aggressive.

00:14:06.000 And I follow this guy very closely.

00:14:07.000 He's going to get Oregon a national championship.

00:14:09.000 Maybe not this year, hopefully, but in the coming years.

00:14:12.000 I mean, this guy is a perfect type of college football coach, and he knows how to motivate his players.

00:14:17.000 And Dan Lanning out Deion Sanders.

00:14:20.000 He out-Deoned Deion.

00:14:22.000 And then he's being called a racist for this.

00:14:24.000 Does this sound like a racist tape for you?

00:14:26.000 Play cut 127.

00:14:27.000 Rooted in substance.

00:14:29.000 Not flash.

00:14:30.000 Rooted in substance.

00:14:32.000 Today, we talk with our pads.

00:14:34.000 You talk for your helmet, right?

00:14:36.000 Every moment.

00:14:38.000 The Cinderella story is over, man.

00:14:40.000 Right?

00:14:41.000 They're fighting for clicks.

00:14:42.000 We're fighting for wins.

00:14:43.000 There's a difference.

00:14:44.000 Right?

00:14:45.000 There's a difference.

00:14:46.000 Right?

00:14:46.000 This game ain't going to be played in Hollywood.

00:14:48.000 It's going to be played on the grass.

00:14:50.000 Right?

00:14:50.000 It's going to be played on the grass.

00:14:52.000 Let's go.

00:14:57.000 Now, he, by some people, they said this was an outright racist speech as he's talking to his majority black Oregon Duck football team.

00:15:08.000 But he was going right after kind of Colorado's great vulnerability.

00:15:12.000 They're all about clicks.

00:15:14.000 We're about substance.

00:15:15.000 It's nothing about race in that speech at all.

00:15:18.000 It's about victory.

00:15:19.000 And honestly, he can say whatever he wants.

00:15:22.000 And Deion even agreed.

00:15:24.000 At halftime, prime time and all the hype.

00:15:27.000 We're the best team ever.

00:15:28.000 All this.

00:15:29.000 You know, Shiloh Sanders, one of Deion's sons, who's going through, he's like, we're going to roll you.

00:15:34.000 I mean, just like Trash Talk, 35-0 at halftime.

00:15:39.000 35-0 at halftime.

00:15:40.000 The University of Oregon football team, the Oregon Ducks, had more first downs than Colorado had yards in the first half.

00:15:48.000 So I think that's a good lesson.

00:15:49.000 I think Deion accepts it.

00:15:51.000 You got to humble yourself a little bit.

00:15:53.000 Now, Deion, you've earned the right to be a cocky dude.

00:15:57.000 Super Bowl champion, maybe an MVP.

00:15:59.000 If not, he deserved it.

00:16:01.000 One of the best athletes America has ever seen.

00:16:04.000 But his players, they haven't earned the right to be as cocky.

00:16:07.000 You guys beat a rather overrated TCU team, a battered Nebraska team, and a bad Colorado State team at home in double overtime.

00:16:16.000 But the media, I mean, I just read this one after the other.

00:16:19.000 It's the audacious blackness that they don't like. 1.00

00:16:22.000 His racist critics. 0.96

00:16:24.000 If you type in Dan Lanning, there's one after the other.

00:16:29.000 You see here that the media, they say Oregon and coach Dan Lanning are accused of racism for blowing out the Colorado team.

00:16:39.000 What a sad state of affairs.

00:16:42.000 They say theroot.com.

00:16:43.000 America has always been uncomfortable with confident black votes.

00:16:46.000 Deion Sanders is evidence of that.

00:16:49.000 Everything is about race because it's a means for control. 0.68

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00:17:58.000 Joining us now is Liz Wheeler, author of the important book, Hide Your Children, Exposing the Marxists Behind the Attack on America's Kids.

00:18:06.000 Liz, welcome to the program.

00:18:08.000 Tell us about your book.

00:18:09.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:18:10.000 Thanks so much for having me today.

00:18:11.000 I appreciate it.

00:18:12.000 Listen, this book is an intense topic because it covers a topic that parents have a visceral reaction to.

00:18:19.000 I mean, we've all been so shocked over the last couple of years to see our children inundated with critical race theory and the trans ideology and the 1619 project and moral relativism. 0.97

00:18:30.000 So I sought out to find why is this happening now?

00:18:33.000 Why is this escalating?

00:18:34.000 Who's behind this?

00:18:35.000 What is their goal?

00:18:36.000 And what I realized in the course of my research for this book is it's not particularly new that the left is coming after our children.

00:18:42.000 It's been an ongoing effort for decades and decades, which, by the way, the Republican Party has not fought against effectively.

00:18:50.000 But what I found is the people who are behind these attacks, and I name their names and their organizations in the book, they're Marxists.

00:18:58.000 They're Marxists who actively want to radically alienate children from their parents, ultimately to overthrow our country.

00:19:05.000 So in the first half of the book, I name the names of the people behind these attacks.

00:19:09.000 And in the second half of the book, I offer a solution that, Charlie, I will tell you, is different than the solution the Republican Party offers for how we can start winning for once, how we can reclaim these institutions and protect our kids.

00:19:22.000 So this is important for people to realize, true or false, Liz, there is a concerted, well-funded agenda to groom and sexualize and take children away from parents.

00:19:31.000 100%.

00:19:32.000 Yes, Charlie, I read the founding document of queer theory in the course of the research for this book.

00:19:38.000 It was written by a woman named Gail Rubin.

00:19:40.000 She's alive and well in our country today.

00:19:42.000 She's a Marxist.

00:19:43.000 And I have never read anything so disturbing.

00:19:45.000 I had to put the document down on the desk, walk away, catch my breath, because in this document, it lays out the transgender ideology. 1.00

00:19:53.000 Because the transgender ideology is just the principles of critical race theory. 0.99

00:19:57.000 The transgender ideology seeks to sexualize children. 1.00

00:20:01.000 Queer theory teaches that children should be sexually active, not just as teenagers or something that you and I might object to morally on the basis of our Christian beliefs. 0.96

00:20:11.000 But Gail Rubin defends child pornography, Charlie.

00:20:16.000 She outright defends pedophiles by saying that our society will regret imprisoning these men who, quote, love underage youth 20 years down the line.

00:20:26.000 It's horrifying to see what's coming next.

00:20:29.000 And so explain that a little bit more because most parents don't believe.

00:20:32.000 They might say, oh, there might be some radical ideas, but they want the children culturally kidnapped away from traditional Western parental values.

00:20:44.000 They do.

00:20:44.000 And let me explain exactly how it works.

00:20:46.000 So it was no coincidence that critical race theory and the transgender ideology showed up one after the other in our public school system. 0.98

00:20:53.000 First, critical race theory came in and told white children: if you're white, you're inherently bad and racist just by nature of having white skin, not based on your character.

00:21:02.000 If you're black, you are oppressed and there's nothing you can do to redeem yourself.

00:21:05.000 And Charlie, what happens to children when they're told that they're bad and there's nothing they can do about it is it creates this identity crisis.

00:21:12.000 They start feeling this self-loathing, this animosity towards their parents who made them this way, this bad way.

00:21:19.000 And as this identity crisis begins to fester in SWOOPS, queer theory and the transgender ideology telling children, well, there actually is an antidote to the fact that you're bad. 0.91

00:21:30.000 You can throw off this identity as an oppressor if you put on a marginalized identity, perhaps as a transgender person or non-binary or LGBTQIA.

00:21:42.000 I describe it in my book as a one-two punch because what happens is children are radically alienated from their parents in the process.

00:21:50.000 The nuclear family is damaged almost beyond repair.

00:21:54.000 And these children are not only mentally and physically and spiritually harmed, but they are secured as leftist activists, if not outright revolutionaries for a Marxist cause in the process.

00:22:06.000 And you say we must hide your children.

00:22:09.000 The internet agrees, Play Cut 134. 1.00

00:22:12.000 Kelly Dodson was asleep with her little girl inside their apartment on Webster Drive when I was attacked by some idiot from out here in the projects. 0.98

00:22:21.000 Dodson says her attacker used a garbage can to climb onto the unit's ledge, open the upstairs window, and then he got in bed with her. 1.00

00:22:29.000 He tried to rape me. 0.84

00:22:30.000 He tried to pull my clothes off. 1.00

00:22:32.000 Well, obviously, we have a rapist in Lacin Park.

00:22:37.000 He's climbing in your windows. 1.00

00:22:39.000 He's snatching your people up, trying to rape them. 1.00

00:22:41.000 So y'all need to hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband because they're raping everybody out here. 0.99

00:22:48.000 Now, Liz, is that why you named your book the way you did? 0.96

00:22:51.000 Charlie, it is indeed.

00:22:53.000 I named my book inspired by Antoine Dodson's video.

00:22:56.000 I figured the least I could do was add a bit of levity to an otherwise very intense topic.

00:23:01.000 But yes, Antoine Dodson did inspire the name of his book.

00:23:04.000 Yes, for people that don't know, that's a clip that before there was, you know, Twitter and all that, it just kind of went viral in its own way.

00:23:11.000 And so then what is your recommendation, Liz?

00:23:14.000 What is the battle plan to fight against the cultural kidnapping and subversion of our children? 0.97

00:23:20.000 And by the way, this makes us such millennials that we were, that this video is so prominent in our mind.

00:23:25.000 Gen Z probably doesn't even get it, but you should watch that clip.

00:23:28.000 It's hilarious.

00:23:28.000 It is funny.

00:23:29.000 It was a big thing for a while.

00:23:30.000 Yeah.

00:23:31.000 It's so funny.

00:23:32.000 So my solution that, and this is where I differ a little bit from the Republican Party, because as I was researching the public school system and its origin, the public school system wasn't mandatory.

00:23:41.000 It wasn't compulsory in our country until 1852, which is not that long ago.

00:23:46.000 And the reason that it became compulsory was because there was an influx of immigrants to our nation at the time, particularly Catholic immigrants.

00:23:55.000 And the Protestant politicians in charge wanted these immigrant children indoctrinated in American values so that they would be loyal to America first versus the country of their birth. 0.69

00:24:04.000 And they wanted these children indoctrinated in Protestant values because of the age-old battle between Protestants and Catholics.

00:24:11.000 And I realized as I was reading this, our education system actually is supposed to serve as an indoctrination center.

00:24:18.000 We think of indoctrination in a derogatory way because of what the left is indoctrinating our children with.

00:24:24.000 But indoctrination itself is kind of a nebulous, morally neutral concept.

00:24:28.000 It is what is being indoctrinated that determines whether it's good or bad.

00:24:32.000 So I challenge conservatives to rethink how we view these institutions and take them back.

00:24:38.000 Because Charlie, I don't believe in neutrality.

00:24:40.000 I don't believe that schools are just going to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic.

00:24:43.000 There's always going to be some values that are imparted.

00:24:47.000 It's either going to be the left's ideologies or it's going to be the rights, values, and principles, which are American values and Judeo-Christian principles.

00:24:56.000 We have to be able to view our battle, this cultural war against the left in those terms, or we're just going to continue to lose the way that we have been that has resulted in this cultural madness.

00:25:07.000 Yeah, so expand on that because I don't want to gloss over it.

00:25:10.000 You're right. 1.00

00:25:11.000 There is no neutrality because, you know, I talk to these normie suburban parents, even conservatives, and they do this stupid thing. 0.99

00:25:17.000 They say, well, I just want my kid to be able to read and do science. 0.99

00:25:20.000 They say, well, hold on a second.

00:25:21.000 There's always values.

00:25:22.000 Okay.

00:25:23.000 So it's either going to be your values or it's going to be the lesbian and the gay and the homosexual and the transgender and the open border values. 0.80

00:25:31.000 Talk more about that, Liz.

00:25:32.000 The lie of neutrality.

00:25:34.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:35.000 It's something that the Republican Party, and I differ between the Republican Party and the conservative movement, because the Republican Party is this political apparatus that's supposed to serve as a bulwark against these attacks on our institutions or our children.

00:25:47.000 But this is an idea that the Republican Party fell prey to about 50 or 60 years ago.

00:25:52.000 And it's actually rooted in a deeper philosophical misunderstanding of the role of government in our society.

00:25:58.000 And what I mean when I say that is, Charlie, you and I think of the United States as a free country, maybe under threat, but we think of it as a free country.

00:26:05.000 But what does that mean?

00:26:07.000 What is freedom?

00:26:08.000 What's the definition of liberty?

00:26:10.000 And the Republican Party has defined liberty for the past half century as being an end to itself.

00:26:16.000 Whereas I challenge conservatives to rethink the definition of liberty as the means to something greater, because if liberty, if the Republican Party is correct and liberty is an end to itself, then what David French once said when he said drag queen story hour is a blessing of liberty would have to be true because those grown men had the freedom to gyrate in front of children.

00:26:37.000 I reject that premise.

00:26:38.000 I know that that's grotesque and it's evil.

00:26:40.000 And so it has to be that the definition of liberty is the means to something greater.

00:26:44.000 So I challenge conservatives to grapple with this question: what is this something greater?

00:26:50.000 What do we want our society to look like?

00:26:52.000 What does human flourishing mean?

00:26:54.000 And how do we use the just authority of government to help achieve that?

00:26:59.000 Yeah, and I mean, David French, who famously came out and said that, you know, free speech is allowing, you know, dudes and thongs to sexually dance in front of children, like that's the blessing of liberty.

00:27:11.000 And this is important.

00:27:11.000 And Liz, I don't know how successful we will be with this, but so many people on the right are afraid to say that you're always going to be computing, communicating some value system.

00:27:22.000 The myth of neutrality is that which plagues our land.

00:27:24.000 How do we get people convinced of this?

00:27:26.000 Because normies, normies like to say that you could have middle ground, but you're always going to have some form of value system, one minute remaining.

00:27:35.000 It is.

00:27:36.000 And there simply is no such thing as neutrality.

00:27:39.000 You can pretend that there is, but there isn't.

00:27:41.000 We have to understand that morality is already encoded into our system of laws.

00:27:46.000 I mean, you can look at laws like homicide or laws against rape and assault, and they're based on the idea that that's an immoral act.

00:27:54.000 And furthermore, you can look at laws based on children regulating their behavior.

00:27:57.000 There's a law in our country that prohibits children from walking on the floor of a casino.

00:28:01.000 Why?

00:28:02.000 Because it's physically dangerous for them?

00:28:04.000 No, because we all acknowledge that that's a moral hazard for our children.

00:28:07.000 This idea that I'm proposing is not new.

00:28:10.000 This is actually our constitutional heritage.

00:28:12.000 The framers of our Constitution understood that liberty is not the license to do whatever you want.

00:28:16.000 Liberty is the opportunity to live a virtuous life.

00:28:19.000 And sometimes that requires conservatives to embrace the idea that government can and should be used to order society along some moral truths.

00:28:28.000 Liz Wheeler, the book is Hide Your Children.

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00:29:45.000 So Liz, let's go through policy legislation.

00:29:48.000 And are you prepared to say we should not send kids to government schools?

00:29:52.000 Liz and Charlie, I'm pretty based on the topic of public schools.

00:29:56.000 I think we're probably this close in our country to needing to abolish the entire public school system.

00:30:01.000 And I know that this is an edgy thing to say, even among Republicans, even among conservatives.

00:30:06.000 But think about it.

00:30:07.000 Would you send your worst enemy's child to our current public school system where they encounter, they will achieve no academic success.

00:30:16.000 They are not properly socialized.

00:30:18.000 They are going to be inundated with critical race theory, trans ideology.

00:30:21.000 They're going to have Planned Parenthood as their sex educator.

00:30:24.000 Why would you send your child to this public school?

00:30:27.000 In my book, one of the things I do is advocate for parents, if you possibly can, to homeschool your children.

00:30:33.000 And I know I'm incredibly biased on this because I was homeschooled from K to 12, but there's so many more homeschoolers now than there even were when I was homeschooled.

00:30:42.000 Any parent can do it.

00:30:43.000 It's not something you don't have to be a college professor or even a high school teacher to be able to administer the curriculum to your children.

00:30:50.000 And it's a matter of the same concept we were talking about before.

00:30:52.000 It's not really, you can't really educate your children neutrally.

00:30:56.000 It's either going to be your values as a parent or it's going to be everything that I just described in the public school classroom.

00:31:01.000 That is exactly right.

00:31:03.000 And so the Republican Party is starting to wake up to the parents movement.

00:31:11.000 So the critics, Liz, will say, but you guys want to ban books.

00:31:15.000 Well, we want to ban pornography in the hands of kids.

00:31:18.000 The Democrat Party is the pro-pornography party.

00:31:22.000 How should we respond to this?

00:31:23.000 And what legislatively would you recommend?

00:31:26.000 The best way to respond to the Democrats' accusation that we want to ban books is to show the content of these books that we don't want to be in the classroom in the hands of our first graders, second graders, and third graders.

00:31:36.000 Take the book Genderqueer, for example.

00:31:38.000 You open it up.

00:31:39.000 It's a graphic novel and it depicts perverse sex acts. 0.64

00:31:42.000 Do you want your six-year-old reading this?

00:31:44.000 Do you want your seven-year-old reading this?

00:31:46.000 But the left has chosen this phrase book ban because it has a negative connotation, but no one's banning this book from being sold.

00:31:51.000 No one's banning this book from being owned.

00:31:53.000 What we're saying is that we don't want our children to be exposed to this sexually graphic material when they're in elementary school, when they don't even have their front teeth.

00:32:00.000 This is a normal, rational position that the vast majority of parents take in this country.

00:32:05.000 And all we have to do is describe what the left wants to put into the minds of our children.

00:32:10.000 And you'll get parents on both sides of the aisle.

00:32:12.000 It doesn't have to be conservative or Republican.

00:32:14.000 Don't even have to be a Christian parent to realize that that's evil. 1.00

00:32:17.000 Yeah, it should be very, very basic.

00:32:19.000 Are there parts of the book, Liz, you want to touch on or make sure our audience is aware of before our time ends?

00:32:24.000 Yeah, in chapter 12 of my book, I write a 12-step plan for how we can take back these institutions because I don't want to just depress people by this catalog of all the Marxists coming after your kids that I detail in the first half.

00:32:37.000 It is important to know who's coming after our kids and what they're motivated by, because if we don't understand or acknowledge the reality of this political enemy, we won't fight well against them.

00:32:46.000 We'll continue losing.

00:32:47.000 And I, for one, am tired of losing.

00:32:49.000 I want to win, and I think most conservatives do too.

00:32:52.000 But one of the things conservatives have misunderstood before is what limited government means.

00:32:57.000 We've assumed that limited government means as small of a government as possible.

00:33:01.000 And there's even been this tinge of immorality associated with using government to help order society.

00:33:07.000 But that's not actually what limited government means.

00:33:10.000 Limited government means constrained by enumerated powers or constrained by accountability to the people.

00:33:15.000 So I challenge conservatives to use the just authority of government to help properly order society.

00:33:21.000 Whether this means legislatively banning critical race theory from schools, banning queer theory from schools, prohibiting even public universities or private universities that accept federally subsidized student loans, ban them from teaching any of this nonsense. 0.65

00:33:36.000 Private organizations that have so much as a DEI officer should not be allowed to do contracts with the government.

00:33:43.000 States should ban ESG on the grounds that it's not only a communist social credit score system that keeps corporations woke, but it's also financially negligent towards the shareholders and of these companies.

00:33:58.000 There are so many legislative things that we can do to fight back.

00:34:02.000 It's not just a matter of ordering our lives, our personal lives, and thinking that there will be a downstream cultural effect from that.

00:34:08.000 We have to use the playing field that the left is using, which is putting these things in our institutions, being in charge of the institutions, and then using law to prevent evil from attacking our kids.

00:34:19.000 Liz Wheeler, the name of the book is Hide Your Children.

00:34:21.000 Great work.

00:34:22.000 Thanks so much.

00:34:22.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:34:23.000 I appreciate it.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 28, 2023

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