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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000I'm Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, joined by Blake Neff, another one of the producers around here.
00:01:35.000It gets at a lot of what made people love Charlie so much, which was he was always focused on the future, on building the coalition, on finding the common ground, on beating the real bad guys, which is the insane communist anti-civilization left that wants to destroy us all.
00:01:52.000The Red-Green Alliance, which is what he was focused on at the end of his life, and we will remain focused on because it remains the key threat, I believe, to the future of our civilization.
00:02:02.000There's many threats, but that is the key one.
00:02:04.000And of course, the prediction that we are referring to is the reunion, the reuniting of Elon Musk and President Donald Trump, which took place last night officially at a black tight dinner at the White House that was honoring Muhammad bin Salman.
00:02:25.000Yeah, we had a state visit of the Saudi Crown Prince to their first state visit in, I think, seven years, announcing more investments of Saudi oil money into the United States, some strategic partnerships there.
00:02:38.000This is, of course, part of his broader push to also bring peace to the Middle East.
00:02:42.000But Elon Musk was there because Elon Musk is apparently going to be investing his own AI initiatives in data centers in Saudi Arabia.
00:05:39.000So I just want, like, that picture, I remember I was backstage at the memorial, and somebody showed me a picture of them, and I posted it, and I said, I hope that they're looking at each other saying, for Charlie.
00:05:55.000And about an hour later, Musk tweeted that for Charlie.
00:05:58.000And I can't prove it, but I like to think that Elon saw that tweet and thought, you know what?
00:06:14.000It's that it's what Charlie would care about.
00:06:16.000It's being aligned on the core things.
00:06:18.000He said there was another bid he did in July when they were still fighting.
00:06:20.000And he said, I think they're going to realize that they maybe disagree on spending.
00:06:24.000They may disagree on particulars of immigration policy.
00:06:28.000And this was, you know, Musk was talking about starting his own party, running third party.
00:06:32.000And he said, I think Musk will realize that if I just allow Zorhan Mamdani or these other radical left-wing lunatics to come back into power, I'm going to not get any of the changes I want on spending.
00:06:44.000And I'm still going to get all of their, you know, radically anti-industry, anti-free market, anti-American, anti-white people values.
00:06:54.000They're all going to come flooding back and will destroy this country because of some personal beef that we have.
00:07:01.000And he really he nailed that one, that we have to move on from those things.
00:07:06.000We have to be able to build our alliances, maintain those alliances, even when it's difficult.
00:07:11.000I want to play another Charlie clip here.
00:07:12.000Let's do, I think we have, let's do clip 254.
00:07:16.000Now, it might seem as if this is irreconcilable between President Trump and Elon Musk.
00:07:23.000How could they ever come back together after all this back and forth?
00:07:28.000It's just as nasty as you could imagine.
00:07:30.000And it seems as if that it's only going to increase.
00:07:33.000But President Trump has in front of us a rather dramatic and telling track record of being able to reconcile and work with people that were otherwise considered to be sworn enemies of MAGA.
00:07:55.000He says, This fulfilled prediction by Charlie is precisely the reason I said for years that Charlie was the true heir to the wisdom of Rush Limbaugh, his favorite radio host.
00:11:34.000So, as we're talking about all of this, you know, I would say distractions when we're talking about the things that are separating us or dividing the coalition on the right.
00:11:43.000You know, I hear this all the time, time, Blake.
00:11:46.000I'm sure that you do as well, that we are sort of a mess in the wake of Charlie's assassination, that there is, we're lacking that leading voice, that guiding light.
00:11:56.000A lot of people think JD Vance could be that.
00:11:58.000And he's actually at an event this morning with Breitbart that they're doing in D.C.
00:12:05.000And he's talking about a lot of these things.
00:12:07.000He's saying, hey, don't let this distraction get us in the way of understanding who the real enemy is, right?
00:12:14.000Because if the Democrats get power again, which right now we are on track for that to happen, I want everybody to be very clear that we are, if you look at all the polling, all of this, Trump's not doing as bad as Obama was in his second term.
00:12:26.000That's true, or even George W. Bush, but we are, we're at a nader.
00:12:44.000I think some of this is just stuff that's been continuing for several years, and it's not going to be fixed overnight.
00:12:51.000And there are people frustrated with the courts have blocked a lot of the most ambitious things Trump wants to do.
00:12:57.000People, a lot of people want there to be more deportations.
00:13:01.000There's a lot of, and people can pick things to be aggrieved about.
00:13:04.000And one thing that happens when there's a bad vibe, as you say, is people decide to fixate on whatever they want to be aggrieved about rather than positives.
00:13:14.000I think it's always worth re-emphasizing to people: this is all happening in an environment where we have shut down people crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.
00:13:24.000We had this open wound that a million plus people were pouring over, 2 million, maybe, pouring over every single year, no limit, no intention to ever stop it.
00:13:35.000And we stopped it cold practically overnight.
00:13:39.000We'd have people go there and do documentary episodes of the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people pouring over into Panama from China, Africa, Southeast Asia, like all these places.
00:14:30.000So I think my attitude is: let these debates play out, but don't let the debates that we're having internally blind us to the fact that we're up against a radical leftist movement that murdered my friend a couple of months ago and that would throw many people in the Trump administration in prison, not for doing anything illegal, but for not following the far left's agenda.
00:14:52.000And then, as if we were already not spoiled for good news, I just took this as a personal sign, Blake, because sometimes I call you contrarian Blake.
00:16:05.000There's this entire shadow world of millions of people where they get free single-payer health care through the system of show up at an emergency room, get treated, blow off any payment attempts, often never give your name.
00:16:20.000And oh, it's just paid for by taxpayers.
00:16:22.000And they get, obviously, they bloated up the housing market.
00:16:34.000And by the way, there's another piece to this where they get all mad at the criminal raids or these illegal aliens, the raids that are going on in LA, Memphis, now Charlotte, North Carolina, Chicago.
00:16:46.000And there's a very simple solution to this, Democrats.
00:16:49.000If you don't like the raids on the streets, cooperate with ICE when you pull these people over and you've got them in custody already, hand them over when there's a detainer.
00:18:20.000Tyler, we're talking about redistricting.
00:18:21.000This is a fight that's going on in the country right now, and a lot of people are unaware of it.
00:18:25.000I mean, we hear about Prop 50 in California and the Texas redistricting fight made a lot of news, but there are other states that are really important.
00:18:36.000Yeah, Andrew, it's been actually crazy in the background right now because there's a lot of states that are wholly Republican dominant that are not being helpful whatsoever in the fight against Gavin Newsom and what they've done in California.
00:18:50.000So as a recap for everyone, Gavin Newsom, we know they just passed the prop for redistricting.
00:18:57.000They're going to take away essentially five plus Republican seats off the table pretty clearly.
00:19:04.000And the only way that you can combat that is with our big Republican states and then a bunch of these other smaller Republican states that can kind of cobble together to help offset this really manipulative hijacking of the electoral system that Gavin Newsom has entered into.
00:19:19.000And this is all important because remember, Gavin is doing this in part because this is helpful to him in looking like the savior for the Democrat Party as he tries to run for president in 2028.
00:19:36.000Right now, Indiana, who has Republican state senators in districts that Trump won by 20 to 30 points, that are pushing back on redistricting to get net two seats.
00:19:49.000So Indiana, you know, one of the historically most Republican states in the country outside of the sad Obama blip that happened in 2008.
00:19:59.000But that was a, that was a, they swear that was not normal.
00:20:04.000It really has been one of the most Republican states that we have in the nation.
00:20:08.000Really has also very Republican metropolitan areas.
00:20:12.000And there is real justification for a solid through and through red state plan map, if you map it out very fairly, very squarely for that.
00:20:26.000But because of the way the process that redistricting works on, and everybody that's a listener needs to become very familiar with this terminology, majority minority districts.
00:20:36.000So what the Democrats have been doing now for many decades is they've been pushing this concept through lawfare of remapping every state around majority minority districts, meaning that they have to consequentially gerrymander districts to include populations that have their large populations in your state of minority communities.
00:21:01.000This is the classic Voting Rights Act thing.
00:21:02.000This is the Voting Rights Act argument that's being discussed.
00:21:05.000We won't probably get into the details of it now, but we will probably start to tear this apart over the next year.
00:21:11.000But essentially, the big ones in America, obviously, are the Hispanic communities, black communities, and Native American communities in certain areas.
00:21:19.000Now, Native Americans haven't made up too many, so you haven't seen too many of that.
00:21:22.000But here in Arizona, you have an argument for one.
00:22:29.000Like if you're adding, once you, the thing about gerrymandering that a lot of people don't get is if you stretch it too hard, you're basically making it so, let's say, for example, let's say in Texas, you made it so every single district exactly matched the state's vote in the last presidential election, just hypothetically.
00:22:47.000Well, okay, that means, yeah, you won.
00:22:49.000We won Texas pretty handily, but there are elections where you only win Texas by five points or six.
00:22:55.000And you can imagine the situation where you would just lose Texas.
00:22:58.000Like, it's plausible if you get in a really bad wipeout, you could lose Texas.
00:23:03.000Yeah, 2008 Obama, and then like you do really bad in the House or something.
00:23:06.000And suddenly you'd get to that point where what happens is you win more seats until suddenly you start losing them and then you can lose a lot.
00:23:18.000Because they're taking, for the viewers at home, the listeners at home, is that you're taking districts that are 10 to 15 points on average plus for Trump or plus Republican.
00:23:32.000How many points did Trump win by, the last presidential, or whoever's the last presidential candidate?
00:23:37.000And then how many more Republican voters do you have than Democrat voters?
00:23:41.000The real thing that's in the air is in a lot of these states, Texas included, is you have a lot more independence now than you ever did before.
00:23:49.000And actually, I own a phone call back to a North Carolinian.
00:23:53.000North Carolina is a good example of this.
00:23:56.000Historically Republican state, tons of independent voters.
00:24:00.000So if you start messing with the districts too much, like Blake's saying, you might end up in a situation where you have a new community of a lot younger people who aren't registering Republican.
00:24:11.000They're more independent that are harder to target, and then they're harder to turn out.
00:24:16.000Yeah, and Florida is a good example, actually.
00:24:19.000Florida right now feels very red to us.
00:25:06.000Usually when you have these court cases in the federal level, it would go district, circuit, supreme.
00:25:12.000With these specific election law-related cases, they have an accelerated process.
00:25:17.000So the appeal is directly to the Supreme Court.
00:25:20.000I've talked to some people familiar with the Supreme Court who've been clerks and such.
00:25:24.000They think the Supreme Court would probably side with us, but it's a matter of speed because your filing deadlines in Texas, for example, are coming up here in just a couple of weeks.
00:25:35.000So you would need the Supreme Court to weigh in very quickly, or they might just be stuck with their old house map for matters of practicality, which that's a lot of what this is about.
00:25:45.000This Texas house map was because they specifically wanted it for this midterm cycle.
00:25:50.000And if it only kicks in in 2028, well, then you're only two years away from a census anyway.
00:25:55.000Yeah, throw up this image, by the way.
00:28:08.000Yeah, so right now, the state senate, I mean, they still can do it, but there's essentially holdouts of about, it depends on the day, but we have about five or six state senators that are holding out.
00:28:18.000The White House came out really strong.
00:28:20.000The president came out really strong, like, hey, we're going to find people to challenge these people.
00:28:26.000And there's good conservatives in Indiana across the state.
00:28:28.000I mean, we're talking in each of these districts.
00:28:31.000You're going to, we need the audience to start to get to know these people because we need to replace them.
00:28:37.000So we're talking, we're not talking districts where Trump won by five or six.
00:28:41.000We're talking districts that Trump won by 30 or 40 points.
00:30:40.000We have Ellie, and she says to Tyler, my question for you is a pretty common one.
00:30:45.000How would you recommend a Gen Z who's not in high school or college get involved with TPUSA or TP Action?
00:30:51.000And she adds, unfortunately, I can't travel right now, and I live in a very liberal blue state where people don't want to talk about Charlie.
00:30:57.000So I think that is a question we get a lot.
00:30:59.000Blue state, not actively in college, can't travel.
00:31:13.000We walk you through the individual steps that you can do.
00:31:16.000First, starting with downloading the Turning Point Action app so that we can start to engage you.
00:31:21.000Obviously, if you can't travel, you can do a lot remotely from there.
00:31:25.000We're starting to work on putting bodies in more states, more full-time staff, and hiring full-time staff, even in what we call our secondary and tertiary states, so that we can help manage coalitions.
00:31:40.000So, if you go to coalitions.com, we own coalitions.com.
00:32:34.000So, this is part of the problem with majority-minority districts.
00:32:37.000So, again, Georgia's at the epicenter of that problem, which is that you have the law fair that's been used in the electoral process to give majority, minority, in this case, and in Georgia, black districts.
00:32:54.000So, keep this in mind that with the law fair, so if the Trump administration is able to undo that, then the answer to that question is yes, you could actually gain back.
00:33:04.000Well, I will add some caution because right now, Georgia is nine Republicans, five Democrats, 14 total seats.
00:33:11.000So, if you were to gerrymander every single Democrat out, you'd be, like I said, you'd basically be looking at the state average.
00:33:28.000So, even if you redistricted, you know, you got rid of majority minority districts, which you could make the opposite argument that the Democrats are gerrymandering some of these districts, that you shouldn't have five Democrat seats there.
00:33:42.000Yeah, you could get it to, I think you could get it to four.
00:33:43.000You could get it to one or two would be great.
00:33:46.000Um, Arizona is a similar situation where we have like a pretty conservative state for the Republican side.
00:33:54.000If we get 11 congressional seats here this next election cycle, you can make the argument that Arizona is a 9-2 seat, but it's the safer, more realistic is 8-3.
00:34:06.000Yeah, uh, Kristen says, Hi, guys, I'm an Indiana resident.
00:34:09.000I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help with the redistricting push.
00:34:28.000Well, while you get that, James says, you guys are forgetting Spanberger has already said she will redistrict Virginia to go to 10 blue seats and one red seat.
00:34:38.000I think they've even claimed they can do it.
00:34:40.000Now, I believe if they don't 100% rig their courts, which they could, it is difficult to redistrict in Virginia because I think they went to a nonpartisan system by constitutional amendment and they'd have to vote like two times in a row and hold a referendum.
00:34:54.000They have to do a lot if they were going to do it by this next election, but they're going to try.
00:34:59.000They are very inventive about these things.
00:35:01.000I do have a non-redistricting question that I want to get to while you pull up those links, Tyler.
00:35:08.000It's a fair question because I know there's confusion about it.
00:35:10.000It says, Hi, guys, listening to the show today about the reunion between Musk and Trump and wondering why TPSA is not doing the same with Tim Poole.
00:35:18.000That is an interesting question, I understand, because Tim has said that he's not coming to Amphest.
00:35:23.000Actually, we're in the process of making sure that we could do it from a production standpoint.
00:35:28.000I was literally, we were about to give him like the green light.
00:35:31.000We want to do this on the day that he posted a video saying he wasn't coming.
00:35:34.000So, we're trying to work with him to get that fixed because we had every intention of wanting to do that and moving forward.
00:35:42.000You know, he's got a very busy schedule.
00:35:44.000I think he was hoping for the answer sooner than we were able to give it to him.
00:35:48.000But we certainly want him to be there.
00:35:50.000We've had a three-year run with him at Amfest.
00:35:59.000It was not intended to be any type of snub.
00:36:01.000What happened was, as soon as Charlie was assassinated, I'm sure everybody can understand this, tickets sold out at Amfest.
00:36:08.000And everybody in the conservative movement said, I want to speak at Amfest.
00:36:11.000And so we got overbooked, even from a speaker standpoint, very, very rapidly.
00:36:15.000And so, in order to do Tim's show, which happens at a very specific time every day on a Friday, we would have had to sort of kind of figure out how we were going to do it.
00:36:39.000I mean, obviously, we've had a lot going on.
00:36:40.000And I want to say this too: we've had a lot going on with everybody.
00:36:44.000We have more people that were actually telling no to for America Fest because literally there's going to be like 50,000 people there, plus everybody wants to speak.