The Charlie Kirk Show - January 06, 2026


Christians Under Assault In Korea


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Pastor Bob and his sons Mikey and Charlie Kirk join us to talk about the story of Pastor Bob's arrest in South Korea and what happened next. Pastor Bob and Charlie talk about what happened to their father, why he was arrested, and how they were able to get him out of prison.

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00:01:09.000 All right, so for those who didn't see our show yesterday, these are the two sons of Pastor Son, who is a pastor that Charlie met while he was in Korea.
00:01:20.000 That was the last international trip he took.
00:01:22.000 He met with him, and just a very short time later, I think literally one or two days, correct?
00:01:27.000 He was two days, he was arrested by Korean authorities for his alleged that his political activities amounted to criminal behavior.
00:01:38.000 And there's been a lot of threats like that against Christian pastors in South Korea.
00:01:43.000 For those who don't know, South Korea actually is a quite Christian country.
00:01:47.000 It has one of the highest numbers of Christian believers in Asia, especially East Asia.
00:01:52.000 And so we've been following that story and we wanted to have them on again.
00:01:56.000 Yeah, I'll also add, we were backstage when I think it was my dad.
00:02:02.000 He brought Pastor Son over and he said, you know, he's been speaking up.
00:02:06.000 They're arresting pastors.
00:02:07.000 He might get arrested.
00:02:09.000 And Charlie and I kind of looked at each other and we're like, surely not.
00:02:12.000 We hear about that in the U.S.
00:02:13.000 We hear about that in the U.S. Like all these guys, there's a lot of guys in the U.S. who will say, I'm being persecuted.
00:02:19.000 I'll take that risk of getting arrested and it never actually happened.
00:02:22.000 Yeah, so we're like, no, like for what?
00:02:24.000 And he's like, oh, talking about politics from the pulpit during an off-election season, like breaking.
00:02:30.000 You can go into that.
00:02:31.000 But we were like, no, no way.
00:02:34.000 And Charlie goes, okay, I'll tell you what.
00:02:36.000 He's like, take a picture.
00:02:36.000 Gives me the phone.
00:02:38.000 And as they take the picture, Charlie goes, I took that photo because if and when you get arrested, I'm going to post it everywhere and blast it on social media to make sure I get you out of prison.
00:02:51.000 And so the reason we're doing this podcast and the reason why all of us have been so just invested in the story is because Charlie was literally personally invested in the story.
00:03:01.000 And so if you guys could tell us exactly why he was arrested and then also just kind of that story, it was so great meeting you guys backstage at that event.
00:03:11.000 Before I start off with my father's story, it was an honor to meet Mikey and Charlie Kirk in the backstage.
00:03:19.000 I was there, but Mikey, when Pastor Bob reached out to Charlie and Mikey, introducing my father, I didn't not know that my father would be arrested two days after because not a lot of Christians and also even the family members,
00:03:37.000 we didn't know that he would be arrested because the arrest warrant, we read the whole 49 pages of that and it was absurd because mainly it was politically, he was violating the political neutrality from the pulpit.
00:03:53.000 But when we go back to COVID lockdown, my father was the only mega church pastor that didn't surrender worship.
00:04:01.000 And it was to a point where the church was literally locked down.
00:04:07.000 And they put ropes around the church.
00:04:09.000 The police went to the church and forced the bleeding.
00:04:12.000 The government officials did that, and we still worshipped outside, increasing the temperature.
00:04:17.000 And ever since then, my father has been the symbol of Christian conservatism in Korea.
00:04:23.000 He has been the biggest threat to the leftist government because he would be so vocal.
00:04:28.000 He would speak out just like how Pastor Bob has been doing as well during COVID lockdown as well.
00:04:33.000 Yeah, I mean, my wife's family is here too, and they have a similar story from their grandfather, but also them having been persecuted in the Soviet Union.
00:04:44.000 And Joseph von derengel, he has an amazing story.
00:04:46.000 He's still alive.
00:04:47.000 He has a great book called KGB's Most Wanted.
00:04:50.000 But they have such a similar story.
00:04:53.000 And this is actually how they've met my dad is during in the Soviet Union, he was running one of the biggest underground church networks.
00:05:01.000 And he was arrested for it and put in the gulag.
00:05:04.000 And then he got out, did it again, and was arrested again.
00:05:08.000 And so they came to America and they saw that my dad was facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time and had to go to court and get a legal team.
00:05:20.000 And our congregants were getting fined just simply for worshiping during COVID.
00:05:25.000 And they're like, wait, this is really scary.
00:05:27.000 This reminds us what we came from in the Soviet Union.
00:05:30.000 And so now they're seeing that in your dad, and we're all seeing that.
00:05:34.000 And so this is a warning sign.
00:05:37.000 This is Korea, but this could also come to America.
00:05:39.000 Exactly.
00:05:40.000 That's why we're here.
00:05:41.000 And is this something you ever thought you would have to deal with with your dad?
00:05:44.000 You never thought your dad would have to get arrested, surely.
00:05:46.000 So ever since COVID lockdown, again, my father, so six lawsuits out of 16 he's facing is from lockdown.
00:05:55.000 And yeah, it's absurd.
00:05:57.000 For just simply worshiping, not following the guideline.
00:06:01.000 And we still didn't know that, even though he was going through 16 lawsuits, we didn't even imagine, we couldn't imagine that my father would actually be imprisoned.
00:06:11.000 And that's because, so to give you a little bit of context, what's going on in Christian community right now is in Korea, 10 million Christians out of 50 million are Christians.
00:06:24.000 However, the misconcept and misleading idea of separation between the church and state has been implemented among Christians even.
00:06:34.000 So actually we've invited Pastor Bob multiple times going back three, four years ago.
00:06:41.000 And he has awakened a lot of Christians in Korea and giving us encouragement and told us to be courageous, just like how Bible tells us.
00:06:52.000 And that's been basically moving the Christian movement in Korea as well.
00:06:59.000 Yeah, Blake, you and I talked with Charlie a ton about the low birth rate in Korea.
00:07:05.000 It's the lowest in the world.
00:07:07.000 So Charlie spoke about at the event.
00:07:08.000 What is it?
00:07:09.000 What is it?
00:07:09.000 I think it's the lowest in the world.
00:07:10.000 It's about 0.7 per.
00:07:12.000 So it means on average, their rate is such that the average woman in Korea would have 0.7 children by the time she's finished.
00:07:22.000 And so just to put that into perspective, 0.7, the extinction rate of Korea at that rate.
00:07:31.000 100 grandparents will have about 35, 36 kids who will have 12 grandchildren.
00:07:36.000 And so the extinction rate is four times that of COVID-19.
00:07:42.000 And your dad is facing fines and jail time and he's currently in prison for what he did during COVID-19 when your entire country shut down everything for something that doesn't even have the same extinction rate as their current birth rate.
00:07:59.000 And they're not even doing anything to combat the birth rate right now.
00:07:59.000 Exactly.
00:08:02.000 Yeah.
00:08:03.000 They say they are there, really.
00:08:05.000 It's not going, it's not improving.
00:08:08.000 Do the pastors talk about that?
00:08:11.000 I guess it was so interesting to me when I was in Seoul for about a week and I just felt like I didn't see children at all.
00:08:18.000 I think I saw one toddler.
00:08:19.000 It was in a McDonald's and they had squeaky shoes that made a rubber ducky sound every time they took a step.
00:08:24.000 And that was about it.
00:08:25.000 Very Korean. 0.92
00:08:26.000 Very Korean. 0.92
00:08:28.000 So I guess, yeah, I know that's not on the topic of getting arrested, but what do pastors say about that?
00:08:32.000 Is there an awareness of, like, do they say our country is going to go extinct if we don't do what every generation prior to us did pretty much automatically?
00:08:42.000 Yeah, so the very law my father has been arrested for and imprisoned for is election law violation.
00:08:49.000 It's because my father criticized a political candidate for pushing LGBT agenda into schools and even church not being able to preach about what's simple and what's not.
00:09:02.000 And also a candidate that promised to appoint 30% of the governor positions for sexual minorities.
00:09:10.000 And as a pastor, my father had to say something about that.
00:09:13.000 And because of that, school is being too political.
00:09:16.000 And because of risk of flight, my father has been imprisoned.
00:09:23.000 But my father has been serving the same community, same area for the last 33 years without even taking a sabbatical.
00:09:30.000 And risk of flight is just an absurd reason.
00:09:34.000 Yeah, and I mean, the church is the only one that's bringing the message to have more children than you can afford.
00:09:40.000 The church is the only one that's providing a community to support families even when they can't afford cost of living and to find jobs in Korea.
00:09:48.000 The church is the one that's actually helping this existential birth rate that's going to eviscerate your country and this ancient civilization that you guys have.
00:09:58.000 And it's really sad to see that the government instead of partnering with that is turning on it and saying instead of partnering with them, let's jail the pastors, hire all the people that can't have kids because they're gay. 0.98
00:10:13.000 And then that's what you're saying.
00:10:15.000 He's saying they wanted to hire 30% of the government workforce as sexual minorities.
00:10:21.000 So you're referring to gay people.
00:10:23.000 Blake, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:10:24.000 I mean, that would lower the gay rate in our government.
00:10:26.000 Yeah, that would lower the gay rate.
00:10:29.000 Yeah, it's sad to see.
00:10:31.000 Yeah.
00:10:32.000 So tell me about your story.
00:10:35.000 How do you fit in?
00:10:37.000 One problem in South Korea is, for instance, young Christian women, they do not want to have baby, actually. 1.00
00:10:46.000 It's ridiculous.
00:10:47.000 That's weird.
00:10:47.000 The Bible says they should.
00:10:49.000 But there's no Christian worldview actually in South Korea churches among Christians.
00:10:54.000 So that's the problem of South Korea. 0.82
00:10:56.000 And that results in the, I think, imprisonment of my father finally.
00:11:02.000 And during COVID-19, there are lots of megachurches in South Korea.
00:11:06.000 You know, maybe the biggest church is in South Korea, full Gospel Church in Seoul.
00:11:13.000 The biggest in the world.
00:11:14.000 It's the biggest in the world.
00:11:16.000 But pastors think like there are 70% conservative people, but there are 30% Democrats in the church.
00:11:26.000 So they gave up to speak up about birth rate or that kind of thing.
00:11:34.000 Because it would make a lot of people uncomfortable.
00:11:38.000 Even although it was one-third of the Christian population.
00:11:41.000 Are you guys married?
00:11:42.000 My brother's married.
00:11:43.000 Do you have kids?
00:11:44.000 Yeah, two keys.
00:11:46.000 Ah, breaking the point.
00:11:49.000 He's single-handedly tripling the country's birth rate.
00:11:52.000 Yes.
00:11:53.000 I want to have much more.
00:11:54.000 Oh, I love it.
00:11:55.000 Many, many more.
00:11:56.000 And once I get married, I should get married soon.
00:11:58.000 That's something I need to learn from Mike as well.
00:12:01.000 I'm, you know, many, many, much older than he is, but much respect for you, man.
00:12:07.000 Thank you.
00:12:07.000 I get married young.
00:12:08.000 It's all Charlie.
00:12:09.000 It's what it is.
00:12:11.000 So, what is the best way to get your dad out of prison right now?
00:12:16.000 And how long is his sentence?
00:12:19.000 So, which is unprecedented, the prosecutors asked for one year imprisonment.
00:12:24.000 And this is absurd because when you look at the legal precedents for the election law violation, even the ones that have ran for the office, they have only gotten fined.
00:12:35.000 So it's not much of a criminal thing that you would get in prison for.
00:12:42.000 But prosecutors asking for one year imprisonment is absurd.
00:12:47.000 And it could be up to one year.
00:12:50.000 But so, as sons, we personally want my father to be released because they're going after the church, church members, assistant pastors, and police accessing my family's telecommunication logs multiple times for investigation.
00:13:06.000 And they could add more charges to my father's case so they can lock him up again.
00:13:12.000 But long-term-wise, we need not only South Koreans, but American and also Christians in the world to raise voices to secure religious freedom and freedom of religious education.
00:13:26.000 And I believe that that is what's essential in looking at this case and know that this will come to your door someday.
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00:14:40.000 How many pastors like your dad are imprisoned in Korea right now?
00:14:43.000 None, because my father is the most vocal one and they are setting example right now.
00:14:49.000 Got it.
00:14:50.000 There's no other ones prior to him, though, that have been released.
00:14:53.000 No.
00:14:54.000 So in May, my father's secular church and our home were raided, which is also unpresented.
00:15:03.000 And in July, Yoy the Full Gospel Church, which is the biggest church again, like you said, Mikey, has been raided.
00:15:11.000 And the most influential pastor, Dr. Billy Kim, his broadcasting company has been raided.
00:15:18.000 He was the interpreter for Billy Gunn Crusade in Korea.
00:15:22.000 And so they have raided the most vocal one, my father, biggest church and the most influential.
00:15:28.000 I, you know, actually, this really pisses me off because it was at that event in Korea that Yoida Full Gospel Church, the pastor was going to speak at that build up Korea event.
00:15:40.000 And they had like 35 pastors that were signed up to come and all these donors that had pledged funds for the event.
00:15:50.000 And then two days prior, they found out Charlie was coming and Americans were coming. 0.81
00:15:57.000 And the government reached out to these people and threatened them.
00:16:02.000 And so Yoido Full Gospel pulls out, the biggest church in the world pulls out of this event and all of the pastors cancel.
00:16:09.000 And only three showed up.
00:16:11.000 And of the three that showed up, only one decided and promised to meet with Charlie.
00:16:17.000 And that was your dad.
00:16:18.000 And he's paying the consequences of that.
00:16:21.000 And on top of that, the donors were targeted.
00:16:24.000 They pulled all their funds.
00:16:28.000 It makes me furious at your government, one, but two, it also makes me really upset at the pastors who aren't willing to say, I don't care if I go to jail.
00:16:41.000 Like Charlie, these people declined a meeting with Charlie, and he gave his entire life.
00:16:48.000 Everything that he had to offer, he sacrificed, quite literally, to the point of death.
00:16:54.000 And these pastors can't even be brave enough to go to a meeting because they're afraid of losing their congregation and their paycheck and their comfortability.
00:17:03.000 And so honestly, they need to probably be ashamed of themselves and use this as an opportunity to repent and stand up.
00:17:12.000 And for your dad, we need to use this as an opportunity to blast this message as far as it can go.
00:17:20.000 And to the people that are watching this too, this is that Charlie was heavily invested in your dad's story.
00:17:26.000 He took that picture because he wanted to get your dad out of prison.
00:17:30.000 And he didn't even know he was in prison yet.
00:17:33.000 And so whatever it is, we want to help.
00:17:38.000 But the more your story can be out there, the better.
00:17:42.000 What is your dad facing in prison on a day-to-day basis?
00:17:46.000 To share a little bit more.
00:17:48.000 So the first three weeks, the prisoners there would have access to canteen, where they can buy underwears and blankets and extra, et cetera.
00:17:59.000 But every four days when they would have the access to canteen, the prosecutors and police, they called my father in for a questioning.
00:18:10.000 So he would have worn, he warned the, he wore the underwears that the previous inmate from that cell will be wearing.
00:18:20.000 So when I was imagining that, you know, my father, he's coming from a very, you know, the bottom, you know, poor life, but hygiene is one of, you know, one of the things that he really cared about.
00:18:32.000 But him going through that and many, many, you know, binding him, binding my father in ropes, things like that, and delaying the legal process have been very hard for my family.
00:18:44.000 But I know God has allowed this time and this environment for a reason.
00:18:49.000 So yeah.
00:18:52.000 And he's in a cell that's only a five meter square, so very small by himself.
00:18:58.000 And yeah, very cold.
00:19:02.000 He has, there's a barely heating system there.
00:19:05.000 So they have to put warm water in a PET bottle and he has to, you know, put that between the arms to keep himself a little warmer and sleep through that.
00:19:16.000 So a lot of prayers needed.
00:19:19.000 So Is this a big news story in Korea or how much does attention does it get in the wider yeah?
00:19:27.000 So a lot of Christians are raising their voices and we are furious, not only us, but just like how America has been doing under the Biden administration, the current regime has taken over media, especially the legacy media and state-controlled media as well, education and church as well, silencing pastors.
00:19:49.000 So not enough of coverage are getting over.
00:19:55.000 Do you want to add something?
00:19:56.000 And Korea legacy media, they are talking about my father as far right, far right.
00:20:03.000 I heard that one before.
00:20:04.000 Yeah, and personally, personally, we are receiving lots of messages from mega-church pastors and lots of pastors from South Korea, but they are not speaking up, speaking out publicly.
00:20:19.000 They're hesitant.
00:20:20.000 Yes.
00:20:21.000 Personally, we are getting lots of supporting messages.
00:20:24.000 Yeah.
00:20:25.000 Yeah.
00:20:27.000 Wow.
00:20:28.000 I'm just.
00:20:29.000 Do you get the Gospel of Matthew, the whited sepulchres? 0.98
00:20:34.000 You know, righteous on the outside, but like rotten within.
00:20:38.000 It's hugely upsetting.
00:20:40.000 You're a pastor and you sympathize in private, but you won't say anything publicly.
00:20:45.000 What is the point of being a pastor?
00:20:47.000 Why do you even exist?
00:20:49.000 Yeah, there are a lot of elders and pastors in Korea that have been reaching out to us and also messaging us.
00:20:55.000 But what they say is, there are 40% or 30% that are voting for the Democrats.
00:21:02.000 So we can't and we're not able to speak out for your father.
00:21:08.000 So we've been praying for you, but not publicly that we can do, that we are not able to do anything.
00:21:15.000 Yeah.
00:21:16.000 Yeah.
00:21:17.000 Well, for you guys, have you faced any backlash, criticism?
00:21:22.000 Has your family been targeted at all?
00:21:25.000 Your children, your wife?
00:21:27.000 What have you guys faced?
00:21:29.000 And also, do you have people receive your message better here in America or in Korea?
00:21:35.000 A lot better in America because I feel like this is no, this is really sad and in a way funny because there are a lot of Christians supporting my family and my father as well and segregate church.
00:21:48.000 But I feel like Americans are speaking out even louder than Koreans and Christian Christians in Korea.
00:21:58.000 Actually, lots of Koreans are threatened by current government.
00:22:03.000 So I can understand why they are hesitant to supporting us, to support us publicly.
00:22:10.000 And we are actually being mocked a lot on social media and news articles saying my father is far-right extremist.
00:22:19.000 And also when Charlie visited to attend the event, the legacy media and the state-controlled media framed Charlie as the far-right extremist.
00:22:30.000 And what I even said on social media is he's the one who has been welcoming debate and free speech.
00:22:37.000 So even if the Democrats want to say things against Charlie or us, it's okay because as long as you have logic, which they don't have a lot of times, they've been like that.
00:22:49.000 And ever since COVID lockdown, my father, the Sega Church, our family has been mocked.
00:22:57.000 And we've been threatened, of course.
00:22:59.000 But we're getting used to it.
00:23:00.000 And thank God we have been blocking a lot of the noises.
00:23:04.000 Good.
00:23:05.000 Yeah.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, rejoice in your sufferings.
00:23:08.000 But I'm so sorry you guys are having to go through this.
00:23:13.000 And just know that we're invested in the story because Charlie was invested in the story.
00:23:19.000 Even remember, we were walking up to the convention center, and this reporter ran up to him.
00:23:24.000 Do you remember this, Blake?
00:23:25.000 I don't, unfortunately.
00:23:26.000 And she was like, Charlie, what do you have to say about President Trump saying that Korea needs to not arrest pastors?
00:23:35.000 And he was like, just don't arrest pastors.
00:23:37.000 It's not that difficult.
00:23:39.000 And it's like, it really is that simple.
00:23:41.000 And like, everybody's like, no, you cannot talk to the media.
00:23:44.000 You can't talk.
00:23:44.000 And Charlie is like, I left him with one sentence.
00:23:47.000 And like, that's all they deserve.
00:23:49.000 They deserve one sentence.
00:23:50.000 Like, you guys are so ridiculous.
00:23:52.000 Stop arresting pastors.
00:23:53.000 And this is a place where we should have leverage.
00:23:55.000 There are 30,000 U.S. troops in Korea.
00:23:58.000 We spend billions of dollars to secure that country's independence from the North, from China. 0.97
00:24:06.000 And I feel it would be reasonable for us to say, you know, in addition, you know, we have our trade disputes or whatever, but I think it's reasonable to say if we're going to have 30,000 troops there, don't arrest pastors.
00:24:16.000 Thanks.
00:24:17.000 Well, I don't even think you guys love MacArthur.
00:24:19.000 Of course.
00:24:20.000 People respect it.
00:24:21.000 Yeah, that's where they built, I think, the monument to when they were memorializing Charlie after what happened.
00:24:27.000 I think they did where that statue is in Incheon.
00:24:29.000 Incheon.
00:24:30.000 And your dad's church is in Busan.
00:24:32.000 In Busan, yes.
00:24:33.000 Okay, got it.
00:24:34.000 So we stopped.
00:24:35.000 Charlie wanted to see the MacArthur statue.
00:24:37.000 But you talk to any Korean there, and there's a deep sense of gratitude for America.
00:24:42.000 And so I like this is where Americans can come in and leverage that gratitude that Koreans have because it only goes so far. 0.96
00:24:52.000 You start arresting pastors and you start betraying the values that connect us.
00:24:57.000 I don't really foresee us being friends, neighbors, or allies.
00:25:00.000 And also, we have 30,000 troops there.
00:25:03.000 And the least you guys could do.
00:25:05.000 One thing I found very moving: I went to, they have a museum and memorial to the Korean War, and they have, much like our Vietnam memorial has all the names of the soldiers who died in Vietnam, they have that and they have it for all the Korean soldiers who died, but also for all of the American soldiers who died and any other countries that fought as part of that coalition.
00:25:25.000 Yeah, I actually think I want to ask you about this too, because I think it's even scarier that this is like step one for Korea and the Korean government is like, oh, arrest the pastors that say that 30% of your hiring load in the government should be gay. 0.66
00:25:43.000 Like, let's do that.
00:25:45.000 Let's arrest them. 0.87
00:25:46.000 But you're seeing people get elected in Korea right now who are North Korea sympathizers.
00:25:54.000 And they want to see a unified Korea.
00:25:57.000 That's what they call it, right?
00:25:58.000 Unified Korea, Blake.
00:26:00.000 Oh, I think all Koreans want to unify Korea.
00:26:02.000 Yeah, by whom, exactly.
00:26:02.000 By whom?
00:26:04.000 But I think this is super dangerous for you guys, the trajectory you're on.
00:26:09.000 And I think that America could definitely leverage the power and influence that we have in that country.
00:26:15.000 Sorry, what was it?
00:26:17.000 Do you want to read that?
00:26:18.000 Do you want to mention?
00:26:19.000 And one more thing.
00:26:21.000 The current leader of the Democratic Party, Chong Lae Zhong, he is a pro-terrorist, anti-American socialist who set fire to the U.S. embassy when he was young.
00:26:31.000 Literally.
00:26:32.000 He was convicted.
00:26:33.000 80s and 90s.
00:26:34.000 He was socialist, and he's still socialist and communist.
00:26:38.000 He brought receipts.
00:26:41.000 So, funny thing about, you know, so as Mikey said, we, Koreans in general, we are deeply, deeply, you know, thankful for America.
00:26:50.000 Yeah.
00:26:50.000 Going back 140 years ago, American missionaries came to Korea to, you know, basically put faith, you know, rooted Korea.
00:26:59.000 And if you go to the cemetery in Yanghajin, the missionary cemetery, there are 65 infant graves because of the poor medical care.
00:27:09.000 And also, you know, the environment was so bad.
00:27:13.000 So shortly after their birth, they have passed away.
00:27:18.000 And I believe that that's the heart of America.
00:27:21.000 So we are so thankful.
00:27:22.000 And 36,000 American soldiers have died during the Korean War.
00:27:28.000 And we are so thankful.
00:27:29.000 But because of General MacArthur, communism, communists from China, North Korea, and Soviet Union, they weren't able to take over the Korean Peninsula.
00:27:41.000 They pushed all the way down to Busan, which is very south city of where we're from.
00:27:47.000 And thanks to American soldiers, we were able to secure freedom, get liberated.
00:27:54.000 So for the Democrats, this is kind of different to the political atmosphere compared to the U.S.
00:28:01.000 But for the communist pro-China Democrats, America is the one that took away their country, their communism, communist-to-be country.
00:28:15.000 So that's why they've been protesting against the U.S. and the free countries.
00:28:20.000 Yeah, 100%.
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00:29:22.000 Let's do a couple of questions.
00:29:24.000 Okay, let's go for it.
00:29:25.000 No, what were you going to say, Blake?
00:29:26.000 No, I was just making sure.
00:29:27.000 Are we okay on that one?
00:29:28.000 Yeah, I think we're going to see this delayed.
00:29:31.000 Let's open up to some questions.
00:29:34.000 All right.
00:29:34.000 And then, yeah, if you guys have any, just raise your hand.
00:29:40.000 They're going to have a part of this.
00:29:40.000 Oh, yeah.
00:29:41.000 I totally forgot about it.
00:29:42.000 I'm going to share that one.
00:29:46.000 And we're going to put up a QR code to help get involved for your dad.
00:29:50.000 And it's the petition for his release.
00:29:52.000 Thank you.
00:29:53.000 Yeah, we're going to make sure we're amazing.
00:29:54.000 Support you guys.
00:29:55.000 Of course.
00:29:56.000 Thank you so much.
00:29:56.000 All right.
00:29:57.000 I was just wondering if there are any warning signs that came to South Korea that you're seeing now in America that you would want us to be a bulwark against and like stuff you would point out to say like, hey, you need to pay attention to that and fight back against it early before you end up like closer to where we are.
00:30:14.000 So I can't even imagine what if Kamala Harris won the election this year, last year.
00:30:14.000 Yeah.
00:30:21.000 And the reason I want to share my father's story and what's happening in South Korea, this might, if not, it will come to the U.S.
00:30:32.000 And this is not about just my father, just one person, but just for us to realize what's at stake.
00:30:39.000 And just, you know, just like how Charlie and Mikey have been advocating that we should be raising our voices and we should talk about politics because it has been and it will be, it will always affect our lives and our children as well.
00:30:55.000 So we should get involved.
00:30:58.000 Yep.
00:30:58.000 All right.
00:30:59.000 My question, I got two of them real quick.
00:31:02.000 First off, as far as South Korea turning towards more socialism, communism, all we see in the United States is Seoul.
00:31:14.000 And that's just like watching New York, Chicago, LA, any big city.
00:31:19.000 And it looks like it's a prosperous, fully functioning country.
00:31:24.000 What is the economics in the South Korea itself to make people want to go towards the thing that they just fought a war back in the 1950s to save them from?
00:31:39.000 And then two, what is what it what is how does the Korean society see the male figure?
00:31:51.000 Like here, if you're a white male, you're pon scum. 1.00
00:31:58.000 Basically, I mean, that's how that's how society looks at the white male.
00:32:05.000 Okay.
00:32:06.000 Is that similar to in Korea, where they're making men feel inferior and raising the women so up, you gotta basically worship them? 0.99
00:32:16.000 If you want to answer the second question first, second question first?
00:32:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:19.000 Second thing.
00:32:20.000 Go ahead, go ahead.
00:32:21.000 So the first one, so the first one wasn't really a question, was it?
00:32:21.000 All right.
00:32:25.000 I mean, it was.
00:32:28.000 What is the economic climate in the entire peninsula that's making the younger generation go towards socialism communism?
00:32:37.000 We just fought a war.
00:32:38.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:32:38.000 Yeah, it was definitely a question.
00:32:41.000 Sorry.
00:32:41.000 I'm not a native speaker.
00:32:43.000 Yeah, so education.
00:32:46.000 For the last few decades, the leftists have been very successful manipulating the education.
00:32:52.000 So for example, we should be aware of the foundation of how Republic of Korea was established.
00:33:02.000 And they manipulate that it wasn't the establishment of 1948.
00:33:08.000 Instead, they say it's 1919.
00:33:10.000 And they don't teach about how, you know, they don't really teach about Christianity right now, even in public schools.
00:33:17.000 Although Christianity, by number, is the most, you know, the most populated religion in Korea is Christianity.
00:33:26.000 And they even call Christianity with different weird name.
00:33:29.000 We call them.
00:33:30.000 So what we call them usually is kidokyo in Korean, but on the textbook it says which is like a Christ religion, which is not.
00:33:41.000 So they've been basically in control of the textbook, public education, and no freedom in education.
00:33:49.000 So no pentor rights, no parental rights, what education are there that kids will be educated on.
00:33:56.000 So basically that.
00:33:58.000 And second question?
00:33:59.000 And second one is, as you see, we are not white. 0.87
00:34:06.000 But in South Korea, all we are yellow, yellow, yellow?
00:34:11.000 No, Asian, Asian. 1.00
00:34:13.000 Sorry, okay, sorry.
00:34:14.000 English is not my native language.
00:34:16.000 Definitely not for my brother either.
00:34:17.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:34:19.000 Asian.
00:34:20.000 But there is men and women.
00:34:23.000 And in South Korea, feminism is prevalent. 1.00
00:34:28.000 Feminism. 1.00
00:34:29.000 For instance, even in the church, lots of young women Christians, they are feminists. 0.97
00:34:36.000 And if they go to college and university, then they become feminist. 1.00
00:34:41.000 And South Korea, who goes to university ratio, is the highest in the world.
00:34:47.000 About 80%.
00:34:49.000 it means 80 to 90% of women, almost all of them go to university. 0.94
00:34:55.000 And they are brainwashed.
00:34:56.000 Could you tell them about the 4B movement?
00:35:00.000 Ah, yeah, that Charlie mentioned at the event.
00:35:03.000 4B is do not birth and do not get birth and do not get married.
00:35:13.000 I think it's do not date, do not marry, do not have sex, do not have children.
00:35:18.000 Right, right, right.
00:35:19.000 Super radical feminists. 1.00
00:35:20.000 Yeah, that's basically the same thing.
00:35:21.000 And that is prevalent, even in the church.
00:35:25.000 That's why the birth rate is so low.
00:35:27.000 And just like how you said, woman up there, how we should bow down to the woman. 1.00
00:35:34.000 I mean, we are equal, but in America, we have, we'll talk about the sex divide, the gender divide, that women in America vote significantly more to the left than men do.
00:35:48.000 And I think America has a pretty large gap compared to the world, but I think Korea is one of the only countries that has an even larger one.
00:35:56.000 Yes.
00:35:57.000 I think America, if I'm not wrong, I think it's like 80% for the woman. 0.97
00:36:03.000 There was a specific story that I think 87% of young women voted for Mamdani in the New York mayor race.
00:36:10.000 More generally, I think young, what they'll highlight is young unmarried women in America will be like 75% on the left, 25% on the right.
00:36:20.000 Yeah, Erica actually made that. 0.99
00:36:22.000 So they would often say how kind of the black, in the black community, the government replaced fathers in the home in terms of what they could provide for families.
00:36:34.000 And so now you kind of look at how it shifted.
00:36:38.000 And Erica literally was the first one to point this out.
00:36:40.000 And I was like, wait, that's kind of mind-blowing.
00:36:42.000 How the government has now replaced husbands for a lot of women.
00:36:48.000 And so this actually, there was something under Obama where he had this ad.
00:36:52.000 The Life of Julia, I think.
00:36:54.000 I don't know if you guys have seen this.
00:36:54.000 Yes.
00:36:56.000 It's literally an ad called The Life of Julia.
00:36:58.000 And it shows this woman progressing throughout her life and how the government aids her throughout her entire life.
00:37:04.000 This was an ad campaign for Obama in 2012 for his re-election.
00:37:08.000 2012.
00:37:09.000 Wow.
00:37:09.000 And people, she's born.
00:37:11.000 The government is giving these programs for her mom. 0.56
00:37:14.000 And then now she's in high school.
00:37:15.000 Here's the free birth control they're giving her. 1.00
00:37:18.000 And why the hell?
00:37:19.000 Yeah, no, Back then, when that happened, people were like, this is insane.
00:37:24.000 And then now we're like, oh, 83% are voting for Mamdani.
00:37:30.000 Okay.
00:37:31.000 Like, life with Julia is now a thing.
00:37:34.000 That's really scary to hear.
00:37:37.000 Any other questions, guys?
00:37:39.000 Oh, right there.
00:37:42.000 Hi, guys.
00:37:42.000 My name is Monica, and I just want to say it's so amazing that you guys came here.
00:37:46.000 And your story is so, you're so bold and so courageous.
00:37:49.000 And unfortunately, a lot of the young Christians that I know think the extent of being bold is like posting on their social media story and the persecution is losing followers.
00:37:58.000 But I just wanted to say I just coughed.
00:38:01.000 I mean, I was just wondering if you have any practical advice for young Christians for what you guys have obviously lived out for how to be bold in real life.
00:38:12.000 Yeah, I mean, we are going through persecution, but as Christians, I feel like although you're not going this kind of persecution, we should have, you know, we should have empathy for our brothers and sisters in Christ.
00:38:28.000 And also, as Christians, we are obligated to speak out what God wants us to speak out about.
00:38:35.000 The biblical truth.
00:38:37.000 They will never change.
00:38:38.000 And stick to that.
00:38:40.000 And if you do, I think your view on how you're going to live your life, what your calling is, what your mission is in this temporary life that's going to end really quick, I think it's going to change if you really, really believe that.
00:38:54.000 And that has been my personal testimony since COVID lockdown, looking at my father.
00:39:00.000 Before that, I wasn't one of the, you know, the faithful kids, but my father being persecuted for, you know, worshiping God, he was so lonely.
00:39:13.000 Even among Christians, he was mocked.
00:39:14.000 He said, Why don't you love your neighbors?
00:39:16.000 Why don't you just worship God online in pajamas?
00:39:21.000 They didn't make any sense to me.
00:39:23.000 And ever since then, I changed my way of viewing things, discerning things.
00:39:30.000 Of course, I like a lot, but I go back to the Bible, I go back to what God has told us to do, God told us through scripture, and that has changed my life.
00:39:40.000 And I really hope we change.
00:39:44.000 We reborn in Christ.
00:39:47.000 That's amazing.
00:39:48.000 Anyone else?
00:39:49.000 We have a few.
00:39:50.000 One more.
00:39:50.000 One more if anyone's got one.
00:39:52.000 Yeah, I see one right there.
00:39:54.000 We have a bit of time because our last one is delayed.
00:39:57.000 Praise the Lord.
00:40:01.000 So my name is Kaylin, and I was just wondering, well, first of all, thank you for sharing your story here.
00:40:07.000 But also, you kind of were talking about, you know, the warning to America.
00:40:11.000 And I just want to know from an outsider's perspective, I think, I just want to know what your thoughts are on America as a whole.
00:40:19.000 Because I think so often in America, there's this like infighting of like us not being a good country, and you know that we need to, you know, make people leave and I'm talking more from the left side is that you know we're this horrendous country and that we just need to like let everyone in, but from an outsider's perspective.
00:40:40.000 I just wanted to know kind of how you guys see America like.
00:40:44.000 Are we a beacon of light in any capacity, I guess I mean.
00:40:48.000 So I went to school in Seattle for high school, in college, and you know that's a blue state, of course, and I was almost forced to think that America is a bad country.
00:40:59.000 And you might think that if you were in Seattle, I mean I was manipulated, I was brain, I was getting brainwashed, but thank God I have faith and I had my brother and my family and simply that's a lie.
00:41:12.000 Of course America is not perfect.
00:41:14.000 I'm not perfect, no one's perfect right and we might, or America could, make some mistakes.
00:41:20.000 Of course it's not perfect because it's not God, you know.
00:41:24.000 But that's a lie, just like how there has been a misconception of separation between church and state.
00:41:32.000 There's a lie.
00:41:33.000 That's a lie that America is bad.
00:41:35.000 You know.
00:41:35.000 Think of the good side, how America, you know there, 140 years ago, as I said earlier, American missionaries basically changed.
00:41:45.000 So when you look at the, when you look at the Korean Peninsula at night, you can google it there's a light in south Korea, all over the country, and north Korea, none except one city Pyongyang, where the Rocket Man lives, Rocket Man that president Trump calls yeah so yeah so, please don't get manipulated and um, be courageous and be thankful that you're American, because you know free speech, freedom.
00:42:16.000 religious freedom, being able to say what you want and not get in prison for that.
00:42:20.000 It's a blessing.
00:42:22.000 It is blessing don't take it for granted and you guys are doing great.
00:42:26.000 I think I think there were no America then.
00:42:30.000 The whole world was already communism.
00:42:32.000 Communism, I think.
00:42:34.000 Amen, I mean.
00:42:35.000 Yes, thank you so much.
00:42:38.000 Well, thank you guys so much for being here.
00:42:40.000 Right before we close, can you tell us how we can be be praying specifically for both you guys and for your dad?
00:42:47.000 Yeah so Mike, you mentioned about the petition and I think we're gonna have the QR code up that is to raise awareness in America what could happen in the US and for us.
00:43:01.000 Please pray for our courage to keep fighting this fight because we believe and we know that God has already won the battle.
00:43:11.000 But we have to be faithful just to fight, so for not only our family but Christians in Korea to believe that and if you believe that you will act upon it, so for us to be courageous and to for god's kingdom, not the government, and we are, we are, we have lots of hope.
00:43:32.000 Actually, we are hope, hopeful because everything is done, everything is allowed by god.
00:43:38.000 God is the uh, god is the lord of everything and uh, I think god is awakening, waking up South Korea, Korean church and even I, I think, American now uh so uh don't, we don't, don't, worry everybody and god is working.
00:43:58.000 Yeah, praise the lord hey hallelujah, thank you guys.
00:44:02.000 All right, thank you, thank you so much.