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00:01:09.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:38.000And I know there's some things you guys want to touch on.
00:01:40.000Last time we chatted was many months ago.
00:01:43.000And I have to say, Bob, you gave one of the best defenses of the founding of America and this kind of rejection of the lie of systemic racism.
00:01:53.000We were chatting over lunch about this idea of corporate wokeism.
00:01:56.000Let's start there and wherever it leads us.
00:01:59.000Well, let's go back to what you just mentioned about the founding of America.
00:02:03.000The president of the United States, Donald Trump, saw where there was an effort to say things that simply aren't true.
00:02:10.000When a person comes up to you and says something that's totally bizarre, we tend to just dismiss it.
00:02:15.000And so when these folks at New York Times came along and said, you know, America was founded under such circumstances, and they give a date that's 150 years before George Washington was even born, our natural thought is just that's absurd, and you move on.
00:02:29.000But as they were successful in the 1619 project to begin to teach that America was formed, they literally use the word the United States.
00:02:39.000Of course, the United States didn't exist at all at that time.
00:02:47.000Because America was born on July 4th, 1776.
00:02:52.000And I was fortunate enough to be appointed as a commissioner to the 1776 Commission.
00:02:56.000When a president is sworn in, it's in the Constitution at noon on January 20th.
00:03:00.000And then they have the parade, they have luncheon, they have a parade, and then they have the inaugural ball, and then they go in the next day at 9 o'clock and get their picture taken as the first day of being president of the United States.
00:03:11.000Joe Biden could not wait until dinner at 5:30 in the afternoon, just five hours after being sworn in.
00:03:22.000One of the most important things to be done was to go back to trying to convince people that America was born 150 years before it was actually born.
00:03:30.000And it's very sad, but it gets back to what you said.
00:03:35.000And is there any truth to this idea that we have colonial roots to the founding of America?
00:03:39.000No, people had talked and began to pray as they began to read the scriptures.
00:03:45.000They began to, after the creation of the Geneva Bible, and they saw that God had made man.
00:03:51.000And it's not because of his bloodline or how much tribe that he belonged to or how much land that he owned, but because God made them that he had individual rights.
00:04:10.000You see also the free enterprise system where no longer are you tied to a river or to land, but through the quality of your mind, you can create a new product and a good service, and wealth begins to explode.
00:04:22.000The nexus for all of that was the United States of America said, we hold these truths and nail them down that God gave individual those rights.
00:04:31.000Everything before that is virtually the same.
00:04:33.000And when it came to slavery, where people were just part of a group and you could control people, that slavery was prior to 1776 universal or ubiquitous.
00:04:47.000And that group of men that signed that document are the ones that changed the world for all time, and people still bristle at that.
00:04:54.000So how should we treat colonial history then?
00:04:58.000This is something that some, I think, well-meaning conservatives ask.
00:05:01.000They say, if the 1619 project is flawed, then should we forget Roger Williams and George Whitfield and Jonathan Edwards?
00:05:08.000And those were people that came to start the came for religious freedom.
00:05:12.000Back under the old colonial system, when those people landed, there were Africans that captured other Africans and sold them into slavery.
00:05:20.000In the 1619 project, it was a black African that sold to a black African purchaser.
00:05:26.000That was the first transaction in 1619.
00:05:28.000And of course, it had nothing to do with America, but Roger Williams and these other folks came to America for independence with the Mayflower Compact.
00:05:37.000They came for religious freedom to become what God had made them to be.
00:05:40.000And of course, each one of the states was founded on that principle.
00:05:45.000They had to collectively join together, often over slavery, that every time they tried to get rid of slavery prior to America being born, the king had the power to veto it.
00:05:55.000And that was one of the real motivating factors to put a stop to it.
00:05:59.000And many of the founders started Bible societies.
00:06:02.000They were committed to the scriptures.
00:06:04.000Though they were all born in a slave culture, they were committed to removing slavery from the face of the earth.
00:06:11.000And every state north of Maryland abolished slavery by the time of the founding.
00:06:17.000By the ratification of the Constitution, 1787.
00:06:20.000I guess my question is that if we say that America's founding was absolutely on July 4th, how do we deal with the decades that led up to it?
00:06:29.000And that's a question that the 1619 people are able to get into schools because they say there was all of this complicated colonial history that kids aren't being learned, right being taught.
00:06:42.000Matter of fact, a good guest to have on your program would be Bill Federer.
00:06:47.000As you go through even how with the Mayflower Compact and how they were blown off course and where they landed outside the king's jurisdiction, they had to establish their own self-rule.
00:06:57.000So this was the first political compact.
00:07:39.000But as they studied the word of God, they studied what rights were correct and where rights came from, that's where they banded together and said, we're going to start a new day.
00:07:49.000And of course, the irony of the whole thing is the 1619 project says that slavery is so wonderful.
00:07:54.000Now, remember, their people were dedicated to it, fought a war to preserve it, and all that.
00:07:58.000They said that slavery was so wonderful that because there was slavery 100 years before America was born, that's why this nation, 4% of the population of the world, creates nearly a third of all the goods and services, that slavery is what shot it to the moon.
00:08:09.000The absurdity of that is just difficult to create.
00:08:11.000It is a pro-slavery economic argument.
00:08:14.000I just think we have to also be very clear that there was a colonial tradition that actually did not totally embrace slavery the way that some of the historians said.
00:08:23.000It was a much more mixed cultural landscape, right?
00:08:26.000Because some of the 1619 push, the way they get it into these schools is they prey on the misunderstanding of colonial history.
00:08:33.000They say, hey, we need to teach people about the 1680s, 90s, and early 1700s.
00:08:37.000I don't think we should be afraid of that.
00:08:39.000And I just think the biggest problem, the 1619 Project, they don't use original source documents.
00:08:56.000It's not about the idea of going back to 1619, right?
00:08:59.000Which I actually, I'm cool with talking about the Mayflower Compact.
00:09:03.000I'm cool about talking about, you know, I think it's like 170-something families, whatever it is, you would know the number where they kind of just say, hey, we're in the middle of the Atlantic and we have to figure out how to govern ourselves if we survive this thing.
00:09:14.000The problem I have is all of a sudden they're indicting the American founding and they're saying, no, no, no, no.
00:09:19.000They're harboring the same evil that happened in 1619.
00:09:22.000I just want to make that clear that we can't throw out colonial history.
00:09:25.000I think it's a big part of who we are.
00:09:27.000The clarity of colonial history, if done correctly, not with revisionism like they do, totally, would completely support the founding of this nation for the purpose of freedom.
00:09:36.000Who was that one guy you mentioned that you did a deep study on?
00:09:39.000It was John Adams' pastor or something.
00:09:44.000Well, so Jonathan Mayhew, he actually died in 1766.
00:09:49.000And when confronting especially the king who was facilitating slavery in the colonies, even though the colonists didn't want that, it was the pastoral class that started to instruct and educate the founders.
00:10:03.000And so Jonathan Mayhew, folks said, this is sedition.
00:10:14.000And so Jonathan Mayhew did a sermon on Romans 13, an exegetical work where it says that God appoints all positions of authority and they're there for our good and we're to submit to them.
00:10:26.000And Jonathan Mayhew pointed out that if that authority isn't doing good, they're no longer the authority.
00:10:50.0001766, before we had a constitutional republic that now declares the authority in America is we the people.
00:10:57.000And so when you look at Romans 13, where God appoints all positions of authority, in a constitutional republic, that authority is the people.
00:11:04.000And those who govern govern by our consent.
00:11:07.000And they're bound by the seven articles of the Constitution.
00:11:10.000And if they fail to obey the oath of office, our birth certificate says it's our right and our duty to remove them.
00:11:18.000And the Nicole Hannah Jones types, the 1619 Project people, they totally whitewash history throughout the 30s, 40s, and 50s in the 1700s of this idea of how big of a deal it is to recognize that slavery is wrong.
00:11:33.000From our 2021 eyes, that's a hard thing for us to process.
00:11:37.000But the fact we made any movement on the topic was something that mankind had never seen before.
00:11:42.000That this was an evil, that we have to stop it regardless of any sort of economic stimulus it has, which I'm with you.
00:11:48.000I think slavery, Thomas Jefferson wrote extensively about not necessarily that slavery was wrong for the slave.
00:12:07.000And this whole idea of the moment, the 1776, I think was the moment, but the buildup was this multi-decades of beautiful, rich sermons and courageous truth-tellers that culminated in that summer of 1776.
00:12:24.000If you look at history and give it an honest assessment and you see the Protestant Reformation and you see, as Bob pointed out, the Geneva Bible, where...
00:12:33.000Tell us about the significance of that.
00:12:35.000So the Geneva Bible was put together and it was no different than the King James Bible.
00:12:40.000They still use the original manuscripts.
00:12:42.000The only difference is in the Geneva Bible, on the side of each page were notes, and each of these notes had commentary on civil government.
00:12:55.000And they did extensive work on self-governance.
00:14:12.000And so when they got this Bible together, and then as Rabbi Lapin points out, is better than anyone, is you can follow where that Bible goes.
00:14:22.000And that's where you see this, again, explosion in invention and creation and art and literature and all these kinds of things.
00:15:48.000It started in the wilderness with the Jews, three to five million slaves.
00:15:54.000And the Republic was when Jethro said to Moses, appoint godly men who are not covetous, who love the law over thousands, hundreds, fifties, ten, so you have representative government.
00:16:03.000And then the Constitution, this immovable structure that would guide them, this moral law, was the Decalogue, the Ten Commandments.
00:16:15.000And they lived together for 40 years without a police force or a standing army because they were accountable to God and accountable to each other.
00:16:23.000And so the founders sought to put something like this together, as did these Scottish covenanters.
00:16:43.000The kids are taught founders love slavery.
00:16:46.000They embraced it or they were quietly, passively supportive of it, at the very least, because of the Three-Fifths Clause and the Fugitive Slave Act.
00:16:56.000Because those that didn't want slavery, and just say during that same time, it is when they were putting the Constitution together in 1787, and they were operating under the Articles of Confederation.
00:17:08.000The Congress and the Articles of Confederation hadn't paid the soldiers, and so they created this Northwest Territory, Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin.
00:17:16.000But they said that when we give these soldiers, we don't have any money for them, so we'll give them land grants.
00:17:20.000But in that Northwest Territory, there can be no slavery unanimously.
00:17:41.000We'll call them citizens and they'll be allowed to vote.
00:17:42.000Well, no, no, we're not sure about that.
00:17:44.000And so, well, and so the South didn't want to give them any recognition at all.
00:17:48.000And the North said, well, if we want to give them 100% recognition, we want to be counted as 100% and they can vote.
00:17:54.000And so the compromise was, and the meeting was that they wouldn't be able to vote and that they would be counted as three-fifths for a while.
00:18:12.000And so the effort that they had to make these compromises to get over the hump to do something that nobody ever done in all of history and these marvelous, marvelous compromises were made so that this great nation could then lead the world to freedom.
00:18:24.000Well, and also just to add, the South did not want blacks or slaves to be able to vote.
00:18:30.000They wanted them for a head count for representation in the population that white men could vote with a heavier representation bucket so that they could dominate the country.
00:18:48.000And that's where they compromised at three-fifths as they'll be counting towards so that the South cannot overwhelm the Congress by always having and being able to just bring more people to the United States.
00:18:56.000Well, the South wanted the count, but they didn't want the vote.
00:18:58.000Meaning they wanted the census to count them, but they wanted them not to be disenfranchised.
00:19:03.000Because in the lower house, they wanted a greater representation in the House of Representatives.
00:19:10.000And so the three-fifths was an effort to make it ultimately so that they got to 100%, which they ultimately did.
00:19:16.000Now keep in mind, the reason why there was a compromise is in 1787, you're contending with the threat of Great Britain, the superpower on the face of the earth that had just defeated the second greatest superpower, France, an eminent war where they're not going to settle with this upstart nation.
00:21:02.000Naturally, nine states, as I mentioned, by the ratification of the Constitution, first ever anti-slavery convention was in 1775 in Philadelphia, overseen by Benjamin Franklin.
00:21:12.000There was all this movement, and Bill of Rights were a timeless, eternal document.
00:21:16.000And then a man came up with the mixture of a new type of cotton, cotton gin, and an insidious idea.
00:21:28.000But John C. Calhoun was where everything changed.
00:21:30.000He's got, Bob, dude, that insight you have on John C. Calhoun and how Jackson just the vice president for both Jackson and Quincy Adams, if I'm not mistaken.
00:22:08.000People who couldn't make a paper airplane are criticizing.
00:22:12.000And these people going around here who have produced absolutely nothing are criticizing these marvelous people who sacrificed their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to have, as I said, 4% of the population of the world creates a third of the world's goods and services.
00:22:24.000Since our founders had instilled in the documents themselves the abolition of slavery, how is it that Andrew Jackson and John C. Calhoun revived this nefarious and evil industry?
00:22:56.000They wanted to know the first moment that it could be done in America, slavery, importation of slaves, so the first nation to abolish the slave trade.
00:23:03.000So now it's going to atrophy and go away.
00:23:05.000But then they came in with a compromise and the great compromiser, which is known as, and that is to bring in a new slave state and begin to expand it.
00:23:15.000And the purpose of that was so that you would have senators and you would be able to preserve this horrible institution.
00:23:28.000But then the folks from west of the Mississippi, west of the Alleghenies, they were fighting for the chance.
00:23:33.000And the Democrat, the modern Democrat Party under Andrew Jackson began the march to a genuine slave trader, not of any of the founders up until that time.
00:23:43.000Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison Monroe, and John Quincy Adams.
00:23:49.000John Quincy Adams, or perhaps no one ever in the history of the United States, has been more history of the world that was more anti-slavery than John Quinn.
00:23:56.000He went back to Congress just for that crusade after he lost.
00:23:59.000He introduced a bill every day to abolish slavery.
00:24:02.000And Congress established the Adams Rule.
00:24:04.000And the Adams rule is you can only introduce a bill once.
00:24:09.000We'll just read the one from yesterday.
00:24:11.000And so he did it because he hated slavery.
00:24:13.000And when he collapsed on the floor of the House and was carried off to a corner to ultimately die, his one of the poll bearers was a congressman from Illinois sitting two rows behind him, Abraham Lincoln, who carried on his legacy to the point that finally it had to be abolished.
00:24:28.000But those people who are today, look at skin color, those people still wanted to preserve it, but they lost.
00:24:34.000So if you read Calhoun, which I've done a lot, he was a brilliant guy.
00:24:57.000He says that you have to check a certain amount of boxes, and therefore we have a skin color hierarchy.
00:25:02.000And the blacks, because they're owned by us, means they can't get to liberty.
00:25:06.000And he wrote rather persuasively, you're not allowed to say this nowadays, but I say it just if you just look at it objectively for the time, where he then connected a somewhat persuasive argument for a group of people that was still wrestling with these ideas with the economic lust that slavery was able to show because of the cotton gin and the new form of cotton that came across.
00:25:27.000But John C. Calhoun was really the guy that caused the American Civil War more than anything else.
00:25:31.000He was the guy that just really led into a lot of, I think, the Southern entrenchment when it came to slavery.
00:26:11.000He was a historicist before that was even a term.
00:26:14.000And so the attention of the American experiment is this idea of historicism, which is rooted in Hegel, which is that we are all inevitably going towards some utopia, that everything has a thesis and a synthesis and a thesis, and that we're marching through this thing in time.
00:26:30.000Those of us that are Christians totally reject this.
00:26:41.000And Calhoun is, I mean, I say there are nine words that every school teacher should know: John C. Calhoun, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Nicole Hannah Jones.
00:27:58.000If only young people heard all this history, right?
00:28:00.000Well, Winston Churchill, of course, is my guy.
00:28:04.000Well, he was a special man, and a young fellow said to him one time, he said, How do I prepare for government?
00:28:10.000If I wanted to have a life of government service, and he said, study history, study history, study history, for in it you will find all of the secrets of statecraft.
00:28:22.000If you look what's happening at the border at this very moment, if you look at what's happening to our currency, printing more money in the first four months of the Biden administration than we have for an entire budget for the entire country ever in the history of the country, when you see what's going to happen to our dollar, when you see what's happened to the border, when you see what's happened, it's all there.
00:28:57.000And one of the things that caused me to really just attach myself to it was when I saw the word word, his story.
00:29:06.000And I see this redemptive thread, at least from my worldview, of these things that occur.
00:29:12.000And so, Charlie, when you're bringing up our colonial history, and we go all the way back to the Reformation, we go all the way back to, you know, even into the wilderness and further back, you see this redemptive hand of God trying to set man free.
00:29:30.000And then you see the sin nature of man trying to enslave him.
00:29:33.000And those are the two contending forces.
00:29:35.000And for me, looking at history, I'm always looking at those things.
00:29:40.000Granted, as you point out, you don't throw everything out.
00:29:47.000But there are characters of history that we glean from that allow us to understand exactly what he wants to do and what we're to do going forward.
00:29:57.000And one of the most important things, I think, to learn is that the United States, in my study of history, never in the history of mankind has a nation become the premier nation on earth, but what it didn't seek it.
00:30:08.000It knew what it had to do to get there, and it knew what it had to do to stay there.
00:30:11.000With the single exception of the United States of America after World War II, when the entire world was at its feet, it did not ask for leadership, didn't pursue it, and had it thrust upon it.
00:30:20.000In my opinion, it conquered lands that it didn't keep.
00:30:24.000Never has a nation pledge blood and sacrifice and treasure for the benefit of another and never ask anything in return.
00:30:36.000With the single exception of the United States of America.
00:30:39.000I was speaking to the parliament in Seoul, Korea, and I was on the Veterans Affairs Committee.
00:30:44.000And by that World War II passing through, now there are lots of veterans from the Korean War.
00:30:48.000And I point out to them in all of my encounters with them of all the things that they bear in their body, lost over 50,000 dead, et cetera.
00:30:54.000I have never met a Korean veteran yet who has ever complained about or regretted his sacrifice for their freedom to make that nation that was third from the bottom in wealth to now the 10th richest nation on earth, only so that they could be free.
00:31:09.000No other nation has ever done that other than America.
00:31:11.000And I just let me continue on for a moment, if I may.
00:31:13.000And that is, America has become the standard for righteousness in the world.
00:31:18.000And so the reason that we send the fleets between Taiwan and China every year is for freedom of passage, because we want to guarantee that the world is free.
00:31:28.000Now, if there is no United States of America, if there is nobody to appeal, then when that tanker belongs to the British in the Straits of Hormuz is attacked by Iran, there's no place else to appeal.
00:31:38.000And so the chaos and collapse that would take place in all the areas of copyrights and inventions and communications and travel and all, all of that would fall apart if America is not strong.
00:31:47.000So when we see what's happening to America at this moment from within, it's an effort to allow power, not righteousness, but power to control the Pacific, the control, the Straits of Hormuz, et cetera.
00:32:02.000When you look at a satellite picture at night of the Korean Peninsula, the North is completely dark and the South is lit up with industry.
00:32:11.000And here we have veterans that contended, and obviously they had a peace agreement where they drew the line.
00:32:17.000But you pointed out that most of the arable land...
00:32:20.00075% of the arable land is in the north.
00:32:22.000Describe how you have two separate governments and why one is decimated and the other is flourishing.
00:32:28.000Well, I majored in economics, and they explained that the reason some countries are rich and some countries are poor is because some are more aggressive and some have natural resources and others have temperate climates, et cetera.
00:32:40.000And so I appreciate East and West Germany, same heritage, culture, climate, language.
00:32:44.000One has socialism, and when the wall came down, 17 times higher standard of living than under communism.
00:32:51.000North and South Korea, same heritage, culture, climate, language.
00:32:54.000North Korea got socialism after World War, after the Korean War.
00:33:00.00025% of the arable land, mountains, and all the refugees and went from third to the bottom to 10 from the top.
00:33:06.000North Korea, same heritage, culture, climate, language, is now over the last decade, 10%, 6 million people, 10% of the population of North Korea in the last decade starve to death.
00:33:18.000As you know, food, clothing, and shelter.
00:33:20.000The first thing you do is food, then clothing, then shelter, but they can't even feed themselves.
00:33:24.000They eat sticks and leaves to fill up their stomachs.
00:33:30.000And the significance of people trying to say about race and that the rich and poor, it's freedom that creates the wealth.
00:33:39.000And it's not the skin color or the slavery that took place 250 years ago or take some poor little six-year-old boy and he's supposed to be responsible for something that happened.
00:34:45.000Calhoun thought that we are all creatures of the government and the state, and your rights are administered to you based on whether or not you deserve that much.
00:34:53.000Well, Joe Biden just said today that our rights don't come from the state.
00:34:59.000I don't know if he meant it or not, but I'll take it, regardless of who says it.
00:36:29.000And these two words are totally different when interpreting in the Hebrew as what stranger is.
00:36:36.000Everywhere in the scriptures, when you look at the original language, the word stranger is somebody who is willing to assimilate or abide by the laws of the land.
00:36:46.000In relation to Isaiah 1, 7, it's zero.
00:36:52.000That word means someone who is an enemy, who comes and has no agreement with your compact, with your constitution, with what you have agreed defined you as a nation.
00:37:04.000And then people say, well, there's no boundaries.
00:37:06.000The book of Acts points out that God made us all of one blood.
00:37:10.000There's one race, the human race, but he appointed boundaries.
00:37:16.000And so there's different countries and boundaries and ethnicities, but there is one race.
00:37:22.000And so boundaries are borders, compacts, constitution, ideology, contending for freedom.
00:37:31.000So you wouldn't have an open border any more than you would have an open door at your house.
00:37:36.000You control who comes in and what happens in your home as you would what happens in your city, your county, your state, and your nation.
00:37:45.000And then in addition, an open border is the unchristian thing to do because it's enticement.
00:37:52.000I will get arrested or I will be fined or prosecuted if I leave my back gate open and the three-year-old neighbor next door wanders in and drowns in, let's say I have a pool.
00:38:06.000I would be held liable for that because I entice them.
00:38:10.000Well, with that enticement, we have sex trafficking, human trafficking, drugs, and there is no controls.
00:38:17.000And we're thrusting that onto a population that we're supposed to, based on Romans 13, we're supposed to protect.
00:38:25.000So, no, it's not the Christian thing to do.
00:39:31.000They said they told the ICE, the immigration and custom enforcement, they told them you cannot arrest anyone.
00:39:40.000Well, once you can't arrest them, that's just like when de Blasio becomes mayor of New York.
00:39:46.000It says you cannot arrest a person for defecating on the sidewalk.
00:39:49.000And so they urinate on tourists when they come because they know that they're not going to be fine for it.
00:39:55.000The same way for jumping the turnstile.
00:39:57.000So they gave the orders and it went out in Facebook that these folks could these child traffickers and these human traffickers and these drug dealers that they could form these groups through Facebook.
00:40:08.000They would come and they would come across and as they bring these people across the border patrol agents, we got pictures of them talking to the smugglers.
00:40:15.000They're standing there in the water talking to them as they're bringing them across and they go back and get another group and do it again.
00:40:20.000That this one opening there, they have processed, they don't arrest them, they process it and they give them papers and they've processed more people in the last 90 days than they did in the previous year.
00:40:33.000But they said they only do it for one out of three, that two out of three, two others out of the three are just disappearing.
00:40:39.000But those that have the sheet of paper, they go to the airport, they don't have an ID, they don't have a COVID test, and they put them on the airplane or the bus and they send them to the red states all over America.
00:40:48.000Hundreds of thousands a week, city of Dayton, Ohio, every five days, just from those locations.
00:40:55.000So it's an effort to, and here's another thing: that if someone does show up and they're having a struggle, what they'll take is a child and throw him in the water or a woman and throw her in the water and she'll start to drown, knowing that the Americans will go rescue them so as the drugs can then get on through.
00:41:15.000It's what happens when you have a disordered liberty and our country is vulnerable.
00:41:22.000Along those lines, one of the reasons why I added that open borders and unconditional love are not in the scriptures is we hear this term, unconditional love.
00:42:14.000You're not setting guardrails for their life.
00:42:17.000And so it's critical that as a nation, these rules are adhered to because it's for the betterment of those who have agreed, paid their taxes, and by consent, allowing these folks to govern who have sworn to defend their sovereignty.
00:43:49.000Well, and I would say one of the beautiful things about America with regard to refugee, and I'm talking legitimate refugee, where their nation is at war or they're a persecuted people and they come as the Jews did, seeking asylum, willing to assimilate and adhere to our Constitution.
00:44:16.000But to support business and get a bigger bottom line for corporate America at the expense of the citizenry, sorry, I'm just going to grind it.
00:44:53.000How dare they be compared to Hamas criticized her for being compared to a Jew or to a free American.
00:44:59.000That's a good example, though, of an immigrant type, ungrateful and not willing to assimilate.
00:45:06.000And the argument that just drives me up the wall is that when Camilla Harris and all of these people say they're coming from these terrible countries, why are those countries terrible?
00:45:53.000In addition, though, there might be one even more immediate that you and I chatted about at lunch: corporate tyranny and corporate wokeism, where the same sort of authoritarian impulse can be exercised by some private corporation that we never elected for.
00:46:07.000So the American system has a couple attributes.
00:46:09.000You know this, you know this, but just to say for our audience, again, independent judiciary, consent to the govern, checks and balances spread over space and time, intentionally deliberate, unquestionable eternal truths, delivered by God.
00:46:21.000Corporations seem to be kind of immune to that checklist, mostly.
00:46:24.000What is the check and balance against Coca-Cola?
00:46:27.000What's the independent judiciary against Google?
00:46:32.000How are we, people that respect private property, that love entrepreneurship, that love free enterprise, how are we supposed to deal with these companies that don't share our values, act like Democrat super PACs, and seem more and more hostile towards the very ideas that we've been talking about?
00:46:48.000Well, that is the dilemma that we face immediately.
00:46:52.000And just to elaborate, as you said, you couldn't pass a law to say on your corporate board, you must have three people of this skin color, and then three people of that skin color.
00:47:02.000And you must have two people that engage in this sexual activity.
00:47:06.000If you tried to pass those laws to do that, and yet we have BlackRock and we have Morgan Stanley and we have these people are saying, unless you have so many people who engage in this sexual activity on your board, we will not loan you.
00:47:22.000Everyone needs to be aware and we need to vote.
00:47:25.000The evangelical, the people that are coaching Little League and teaching Sunday school are not voting in the proportions that they should.
00:47:31.000And our responsibility is that this country, this lighthouse for the gospel, this hope for the world, is hanging by a thread.
00:47:39.000And if it can be, and there are those who are deliberately striding to steal it out from under us in order to change these, we talked to the people at the border.
00:48:44.000But we've watched as our educational system has created these CEOs.
00:48:50.000And the conservative mindset is, oh, you know, they've got this socialist teacher in their college.
00:48:57.000But once that kid gets out, he'll realize once he gets a job.
00:49:01.000And if you're not a liberal when you're young, you're heartless.
00:49:04.000If you're not a conservative when you're older, you're brainless.
00:49:08.000But the truth is, and that was a conservative position looking at these kids who are being educated.
00:49:13.000Well, they graduated and now they're CEOs of Coca-Cola and they're in the NFL and the NBA and the MLB and they're in the halls of Congress and they've been educated this way and they're implementing that.
00:49:32.000There needs to be a complete re-educating of our children and returning it to the parents where we don't entrust them to, especially in California, the CTA, the California Teachers Association.
00:49:45.000It has no interest in educating our children, but indoctrinating them.
00:49:49.000So we really have to wake up and we need to be at those school board meetings.
00:50:18.000I'm getting to the place where it comes to the corporations that if they're of a certain size or magnitude, they must be the Bill of Rights must then apply.
00:50:26.000And they've otherwise been able to skirt and say, we're a private company.
00:51:03.000And then they have the audacity to come out alongside Delta Airlines and say that voter ideas not share our values because of the Georgia voting law, which was not even close to being enough that they don't share their values.
00:51:16.000And so at some point, it's either there has to be a place where there's rules for political engagement if you take certain types of money from federal government, like Amtrak.
00:52:00.000And in certain states, you're more free than not.
00:52:02.000The second is these private companies and conservatives who are just completely unaware or uninterested in even exploring the ideas of how to hold them accountable.
00:52:11.000I'm afraid we're going to live in a Russian-style corporate oligarchy.
00:52:15.000And that's a very scary set of circumstances where we're controlled by 10 companies and we really don't have the natural rights we once enjoyed because of the private companies.
00:52:25.000So if a company is big enough that if it fails, the nation is going to suffer.
00:53:38.000And so it kind of begins this thought process of if you're going to take taxpayer fund and bailouts, there's got to be a political neutrality to it.
00:54:58.000And so now we're dealing with different, market principles always apply.
00:55:01.000With that being said, the market principle of these tech companies is that if the market principles apply, then they're just going to get better at selling us.
00:55:36.000So, in this effort to have this revolution, this socialist revolution, you created the dilemma, then you came in to fix it by taking other people's money and creating a national debt, and then they own us.
00:55:46.000So, it's the whole thing's in the mirror.
00:55:49.000But to get back to what Rob said about schools and things, we've seen this coming, Charlie, and I believe it's now here, and people are waking up left and right.
00:56:01.000People, and I put them on my comments all the time when we see some school board member or some school doing something terrible, I always put at the top: this is what happens when people don't know who their school board members are.
00:56:12.000And for the first time ever, and I've been strongly concerned about this for the last couple of years, I see people getting involved in school board races because they hire the superintendent, it's not the teacher, they hire the superintendent, the school board does it, then they hire the superintendent who then hires the teacher.
00:56:27.000You and I hired the school board, so that teacher is there because what you and I put on that school board.
00:56:32.000And when we now are getting involved in education, and as you said so well, it's not that these kids are all socialists, they don't know squat about anything, they don't understand free enterprise, they don't understand that all wealth, all wealth is created in a free market.
00:56:46.000Socialism just redistributes what somebody else made, socialism doesn't create anything, and that they don't know, but nobody has told them that.
00:56:52.000So, now as people are beginning to become awakened, I'm very optimistic that this is what this is the day that we have hoped and prayed for for a long time.
00:56:59.000Yeah, the silver lining to the lockdown is that there's been an exodus from the public school system in a larger way than ever before.
00:57:08.000And parents are beginning to see what their children were being horribly and realizing that they're good teachers and they can actually teach their kids, empower them, empower them.
00:57:22.000Well, mostly working with you, Charlie, on the turning point faith and watching churches across America start to realize that we have a responsibility in the ecclesia or the ecclesia, the public square, and awakening to that, that liberty is not man's idea, it's God's idea.
00:57:41.000And every church that has joined us, Charlie, has experienced exponential growth.
00:57:49.000And as Vodi Bachman pointed out, this fault line in his book: the woke churches and those churches that are awakening to liberty and their responsibility to declare it and defend it, those churches are growing, and the woke churches are not.
00:58:06.000And people are wanting leadership in these unprecedented times.
00:58:14.000And I'm grateful that Bob's here for this reason.
00:58:20.000In some of the most difficult circumstances that I've seen in this country in 56 years, this man is an optimist.
00:58:28.000He's an optimist because he can see the 40,000-foot view and he never gives up.
00:58:33.000And this ideal and this dream of America has always inspired me.
00:58:40.000And to realize the combination of his faith and, as we've shared on this program, Aristotle, politics being the highest form of community, morality and sociability combining is the hope for this nation.
00:58:55.000If you don't mind, Charlie, one of the most inspiring stories, especially on leadership, and that's what we're looking for right now in this vacuum that's been created by a president that can't put a sentence together.
01:00:12.000He said, we need to learn to live with less, ride your bicycle, wear your sweater.
01:00:16.000America's coming to an end next Tuesday a week.
01:00:18.000There isn't anything anybody can do about it.
01:00:21.000And he shut down all of the logging and all of the drilling.
01:00:25.000And sure enough, there's a shortage of gasoline.
01:00:27.000And so people could only go on alternate days.
01:00:30.000And they could only get a certain amount of gasoline.
01:00:32.000So they could treat you like you're on an airline nowadays.
01:00:36.000I mean, when Nurse Ratchet comes up and down the hall screaming at you for not having your mask over your nose, it used to be that they were trying to treat you nicely.
01:00:43.000So if you had so much gasoline, you're only open for three, four, five hours.
01:00:49.000And when Democrats or when liberals do this, when the left does this to something, they never take responsibility.
01:01:22.000Let me just say that also during that 1980, because America was as mothballed, only one plane in three was airworthy, only one ship in three could sail.
01:01:33.000They had a conference of African unity, now called the African Union.
01:01:38.000And the first conference, the speaker was the president of the Soviet Union, landed at Brezhnev.
01:01:42.000And he said, this is 1980, looking into 1989.
01:01:45.000He said, because of what we, the Soviet Union, are doing, by the end of this decade, we will be able to work our will any place on the planet.
01:01:53.000The correlation of forces, economic, military, and political, on the side of socialism and communism.
01:01:57.000Ronald Reagan comes in and says, nothing wrong with America.