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00:01:25.000We are here to talk about a new project of yours that is very, very exciting, Convicting a Criminal, which is a response to this Netflix series, Making a Murder.
00:01:35.000We have a trailer, but first, Candace, welcome to the program.
00:01:40.000Yeah, I'm really excited about this, Convicting a Murderer, which is really an answer or a reflection rather on Netflix's Making a Murderer, which was a cult phenomenon at the time that it was released in 2015, telling the story of Stephen Avery.
00:01:54.000And if you walked away having binged that series, it was about this poor guy who was wrongly convicted and held in prison for 12 years, which is accurate, by the way.
00:02:03.000He was actually held in prison for 12 years for something that he didn't do, which was the sexual assault and attempted murder of a young woman.
00:02:12.000And at no fault of the police, the woman survived the attack and pointed him out in a lineup.
00:02:29.000And suddenly he's under suspicion and arrested for a disappearance and eventually the murder of another woman named Teresa Hallbach.
00:02:37.000And so it was an interesting storyline and people were gripped by the plot.
00:02:40.000And it was very much became White Lives Matter in that people were outraged, believed that this man was innocent, that they were framing him for the murder of Teresa Hallbach because of a pending lawsuit.
00:02:56.000Trevor Noah, Chrissy T, and all the usual suspects claiming that this guy, Stephen Avery, had been wrongly convicted and that this was a case of bad cops, rotten cops.
00:03:07.000And so it just turns out really that Netflix left out a lot of very important details and it becomes really fun to dive into true crime, especially because I'm a woman, women love true crime, but also because it still speaks to the political nature.
00:03:24.000I don't know why we implicitly trust documentaries and celebrities to tell us the truth.
00:03:28.000We shouldn't by now, but it really gets into really our mentality with propaganda.
00:03:34.000And Netflix is always a willing participant in sharing propaganda.
00:03:39.000There's so many important aspects to this.
00:03:41.000I want to make sure everyone knows how to watch your response, Convicting a Murderer.
00:03:46.000You guys, if you have a Daily Wire membership, you could do that.
00:03:49.000Unveils the shocking truth behind one of the most controversial criminal cases in recent history.
00:05:27.000In our audience chat and also from our feedback and just from kind of anecdotes, the true crime genre seems to be overwhelmingly consumed by women.
00:05:40.000I'm just curious, why do you think that is?
00:05:42.000It's really actually interesting because I was doing Lauren Chen's podcast, or no, rather, she was jumping on an X Space with us and she said the same thing.
00:05:58.000We're maybe fascinated by the idea that somebody can trick someone, you know, and trying to lean into.
00:06:05.000I think we're really fascinated by psychology and things of that nature, but there definitely is some sort of a biological proclivity that women have to these sort of true crime mysteries that men don't have, which is fascinating to look at.
00:06:17.000But this particular case, actually, men were very invested in this as well.
00:06:22.000And I think it might have just been because of what was going on culturally at the time.
00:06:25.000I mean, they dropped this docuseries back in 2015.
00:06:29.000BLM was just starting to get its footing in America.
00:06:31.000There was this rise of anti-police sentiment.
00:06:34.000And of course, it was seized upon by the mainstream media, not because they cared about this young woman who was horrifically murdered, by the way.
00:06:40.000Teresa Hallbach was, you know, raped by two men.
00:06:46.000She was set on fire in a burn pit and cut into a million pieces.
00:06:49.000That's literally how this young woman died at 22 years old.
00:06:52.000And the documentary makers didn't care.
00:06:54.000You had these two lesbian documentary makers who were catching sort of a political wave of anti-police sentiment who wanted to essentially make a profit and perhaps suggest, which they heavily suggested, that this man could potentially be innocent, which we revealed their prison phone calls, which we got the hold of, where they were clear about their intentions, that they believed that he was innocent and were willing to steamroll over Teresa's body, her family, and the grief that they were going through.
00:07:21.000But yeah, it is really a psychological phenomenon, and you are accurate, that women tend to lean more into this category.
00:07:51.000And so I never saw the original Netflix documentary.
00:07:54.000As you all know, Candace, I'm not the most pop culturally literate person out there.
00:07:59.000Just kind of build out for our audience, though, just how widespread of a phenomenon this was and how it moved people's sentiments.
00:08:07.000I mean, you would walk away thinking you're a subject matter expert on policing and look at this poor guy when in reality, I mean, this guy is now a convicted murderer and was allegedly wrongfully convicted in 1985.
00:08:22.000But do you think he actually was wrongfully convicted, Candace?
00:08:27.000Any person, whether you're a person that believes he's guilty or of this particular crime of Teresa Hallback or not, will agree that he was wrongfully convicted.
00:08:33.000They actually ended up arresting the guy and putting him away who actually did commit the murder.
00:08:37.000She just, this woman who survived this horrific attack pointed to the wrong guy.
00:08:40.000It was the wrong blonde guy, kind of a similar build.
00:08:43.000And she did the media circuit after talking about how horrible she felt that she put this man in prison for 12 years, something that he didn't do.
00:08:51.000The thing that is not really told is that he was also serving a sentence at the same time, six years of that 18 years that he was in prison total was something that he did do.
00:09:00.000He was very much a person that was capable of violence.
00:09:02.000We show in the first couple of episodes, you know, he was torturing animals.
00:09:07.000I don't know that the average individual grabs their house pets, douses them in gasoline, and throws them into fire because they just want to have fun one night.
00:09:15.000You know, we tend to understand how a person can start with torturing animals and move on.
00:09:20.000He was in prison, or he has a married cousin.
00:09:23.000He ran her off the road, put a gun to her head and ordered her into the car.
00:09:27.000Fortunately, or unfortunately, she had a small toddler in the car with her and she begged him to just allow him to drop off her toddler.
00:09:34.000And then he had a second thought and turned around because he didn't know what to do with as he was following her.
00:09:39.000So he had a whole history of violence.
00:09:41.000And when Netflix spoke about it, they diminished it and they downplayed it.
00:09:45.000And this sort of what you're really seeing, like I said, playing into early anti-police sentiments was people having their emotions hijacked by this Netflix docuseries, showing you a man that just got out of prison for something that he actually didn't do.
00:10:10.000They've pled, you know, not, they pled guilty to pedophilia within their own family.
00:10:15.000But far be it from Netflix to tell you any of that.
00:10:18.000The whole concept was this dejected man who just kind of wanted to get back to his family and his family roots.
00:10:24.000And now, oh my gosh, he's being framed by the police.
00:10:28.000And what was really fascinating to me about this case and why I wanted to jump into it, Charlie, was because it wasn't divided across political lines.
00:10:36.000It wasn't like conservatives thought he was guilty and liberals thought that he wasn't.
00:10:40.000This happened in 2015 and people on both sides thought that he was plausibly innocent, which is really fascinating.
00:10:47.000You know, to go back and even pull conservative tweets, people thought that he was plausibly innocent, which really shows you how much we've moved as society from our reliance and belief in the mainstream narrative to where we are today, where I don't think that would be as possible following the collapse of the George Floyd narrative.
00:11:01.000But that was the beginning of trying to make criminals look like they were heroes.
00:11:06.000It really started with making a murderer.
00:11:08.000Very important project, Convicting a Murderer.
00:11:11.000You guys can get it with a Daily Wire membership and unveils the shocking truth behind one of the most controversial criminal cases in recent history.
00:11:18.000And if there is a massive media narrative, you can rest assured that Candace Owens is going to ask the right questions.
00:11:32.000You guys can get it with a Daily Wire membership.
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00:12:38.000Candace, I was looking at the top podcasts in America.
00:12:40.000Four out of 20 of them are true crime podcasts.
00:12:43.000When I see the media, more particularly Hollywood, go all in on certain narratives.
00:12:48.000I can't help but wonder what is their political objective.
00:12:51.000Do you think more times than not, when they cover these stories, they're overly sensationalizing them to maybe make law enforcement look bad, to maybe try to get defund the police type narratives?
00:13:03.000In this one in particular, it seemed as if to almost create a sympathy campaign for a criminal, not for a victim.
00:13:12.000Bingo, I would say that you hit the nail on the head.
00:13:15.000It's absolutely about whatever political objectives are of the day.
00:13:20.000And at this time in 2015, as I hit upon, you know, BLM was brewing, and we know exactly what that's led to now today.
00:13:26.000And so, this is why the documentary makers were able to do this late night circuit.
00:13:31.000You had Trevor Noah, and he was really pushing the race narrative with this Stephen Avery.
00:13:35.000He was like, Now you white people understand, you know, that you thought it was just black men that were going through this until you see this is happening to Stephen Avery.
00:13:42.000So, this idea that Stephen Avery was innocent and the whole system was behind him, and you didn't think that it was plausible.
00:13:47.000And now, white people can see too the injustice of the entire system.
00:13:52.000Enter in BLM and give them all of your money.
00:13:55.000And so, of course, you had Alec Baldwin.
00:13:58.000You update he killed someone, but back then he was defending a person who had killed someone, being Stephen Avery, and screaming about his innocence.
00:14:07.000But the thing that is really horrific to really think about this, and this is what people don't consider, is that when celebrities do lend their voices to this, when Alec Baldwin pretends to be outraged, I mean, he was so despicable that Alec Baldwin, you know, Teresa Hallbach, the victim in this circumstance, has a deeply faithful family.
00:14:25.000They basically never spoke to the press, a committed Catholic family, and they only allowed the brother, her elder brother, it might be her younger brother, to speak out on very rare occasions.
00:14:37.000And Alec Baldwin ripped him apart, saying he was faking his emotions.
00:14:41.000This led to conspiracy theories that Teresa was still alive, people that were committed to the idea that she was in Mexico, that she followed the cows.
00:14:53.000So imagine losing your sister in this horrific way.
00:14:56.000And then you have someone like Alec Baldwin leading the charge on conspiracy theory, saying that your emotions are not right because he's extracting you for 10 seconds, maybe in a courtroom.
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00:17:47.000Well, I have long maintained that Joe Biden deserved to be impeached because of the border.
00:17:52.000In my view, no president in the history of the country has done more to intentionally harm the United States than what he's done in his first two and a half years with 7 million illegals invading the country, not being permitted to do so by the Biden administration, but being facilitated by the Biden administration.
00:18:06.000How do we as a Republican House continue to let that go on?
00:18:10.000We don't need any more evidence for that.
00:18:11.000We don't need any more investigation that they're willfully, purposely violating their constitutional oaths, and we ought to impeach the president for that.
00:18:18.000That said, I do think that there's been tremendous work done by the Oversight Committee led by Chairman Jamie Comer.
00:18:25.000And I think there is just mounting, growing implication of President Biden himself.
00:18:30.000Much of that, of course, during the time when he was vice president, that he was complicit, involved, a party to, a recipient of the corrupt business dealings that were perpetrated by the Biden crime family.
00:18:41.000And so I do think this is the right thing to do.
00:18:44.000I think an impeachment inquiry is called for, and I'm glad to see that move taking place.
00:18:50.000I think it should have taken place even more quickly or even sooner, but I think it is right to do it, even if it's at this time and point in time.
00:19:01.000I think Joe Biden's a traitor to the United States and that some people in Gitmo have done less than him for selling out the country, being a Chinese agent, Chinese Communist Party agent, amongst many other things.
00:19:11.000His son is the scum of the earth, all that stuff.
00:19:14.000My concern is that all of a sudden they're pulling this out of their back pocket right now, the moderates, as we have this massively important 930 looming deadline, the 30th of September, which is the whole ballgame, the big enchilada, if you will.
00:19:28.000And I'm afraid, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm afraid that there might be some deal between the moderate wing and some conservatives where they say, oh, well, we have the impeachment in Korea and now we can do a dirty resolution on 930.
00:19:41.000Can you give us some peace of mind that these are two separate things, that there will be no major concessions when it comes to 930 just because of the advancement of the impeachment in Korea.
00:19:55.000There has been speculation by many, as you know, that perhaps this is a distraction or perhaps this is an effort to kind of show some semblance of toughness as it pertains to going after President Biden when we have not demonstrated any toughness, I would argue, as a party from our leadership in battling for the country on issues and particularly spending issues, as you know.
00:20:16.000The number one responsibility of the House is to fund our government appropriately for the things that are necessary and justified constitutionally in the proper role of federal government and to protect our ability to borrow when necessary.
00:20:29.000We have obviously fumbled that for decades.
00:20:31.000We're at just a terrible crisis point with our national debt and our deficit.
00:20:36.000As you know, Charlie, we're about to run a $2 trillion deficit with the Republican House.
00:20:42.000We could do that with the Democrat House.
00:20:43.000We don't need a Republican majority to run a $2 trillion deficit, $150 billion a month.
00:20:48.000As you know, we came from the horrible Failed Responsibility Act, the debt ceiling agreement that raised the debt unlimited, as much as we can gleefully come together and spend until January of 25, with essentially no conditions to that.
00:21:01.000It essentially maintains all the Biden, Pelosi, Schumer spending.
00:21:07.000I can speak for my conservative colleagues whom I collaborate with, and there is absolutely no deal.
00:21:14.000There is no, we are not in any way going to back away or surrender or weaken our position on the funding, on the appropriations, on the budget battle here.
00:21:24.000And there's been no conversations that I am at all aware of to that effect.
00:21:28.000And I'm quite certain that none of my colleagues who I collaborate with are involved in that in any way.
00:21:35.000So let's now get to 930, because if I were to, look, some of the moderates that I don't get along with in the caucus, I could just see what they're going to do here, right?
00:21:45.000They're going to privately say, hey, look, you guys get your little impeachment red meat.
00:21:49.000Now give us more money for Zelensky and, you know, let's not shut down the government.
00:21:52.000Congressman, let's get, what is the order that we're asking for on 930?
00:21:56.000From our perspective on this program, it's Jack Smith, it's about the border, and it's about no clean checks to Ukraine.
00:22:04.000I'm sure these negotiations are ongoing, and the Freedom Caucus and your colleagues have been doing a great job of really setting the standards and setting the negotiation table for 930.
00:22:15.000Is there a willingness to shut down the government if necessary?
00:22:18.000Is there a red line where you guys are not going to cross?
00:23:05.000Yes, this administration has spent more in two and a half years than any presidency in the history of the country in two and a half years, but Republicans have been part of that.
00:23:12.000And that's what January was about, Charlie.
00:23:14.000As you know, to go back to January, January was about not doing what we've always done, not letting the American people down again, not betraying the trust they placed in us, and not having a Republican majority, and then doing what we did with the Failed Responsibility Act, which is to pass major spending bills or major pieces of legislation that deal with the nation's finances or economic situation with a majority of Democrat votes.
00:23:38.000And so the Speaker has a choice, Charlie, to your question.
00:23:42.000He can reform the conservative coalition that existed for the first four months of this Congress.
00:23:47.000He can keep his commitments that he made to some individuals in order to get their votes back in January, which was to go back to pre-COVID level spending for non-defense discretionary.
00:23:56.000We can pass all 12 of our bills advancing Republican priorities and reversing the harmful policies of the Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi regime over the last couple of years.
00:24:07.000And then it's up to the Senate to pass those bills in order to keep the government open or to prevent a shutdown.
00:24:12.000We can do it with 218 votes in the House.
00:24:15.000Democrats cannot, Charlie, as you know, they cannot pass their bills without Republican votes.
00:24:19.000They don't have 60 votes in the Senate.
00:24:21.000I've heard some senators criticize the House Freedom Caucus and say, hey, well, this isn't going to fly in the Senate.
00:24:26.000Well, the only reason it won't fly in the Senate is if Republicans vote with Democrats to give them the 60 votes to pass Democrat bills.
00:24:33.000And so this Speaker can be a transformational historical speaker that stares down the Democrats, that stares down the White House, that stares down the Senate and frankly just says no and says, we've done our job.
00:24:43.000We've passed our bills if we do that, mind you.
00:24:47.000And then it's up to the Senate to act on those bills in order to avoid a government shutdown.
00:24:51.000And what I've said publicly many times, as you know, is that we shouldn't fear a government shutdown and we shouldn't pass bad legislation or cave to the Democrats or fail the American people to avoid the consequence of a shutdown or the risk of a shutdown.
00:25:06.000If we have to use shutdown leverage to get there, then we should use shutdown leverage to get there.
00:25:09.000But the House can do its job and the House can pass Republican bills that cut our spending and advance our policies.
00:25:16.000What you just walked through sounds incredibly rational.
00:25:20.000What would some of your more moderate colleagues object to that?
00:25:23.000I mean, we're talking about sending to the Senate some very prudent adjustments in the federal budget, especially given that the Department of Justice is eliminating our federal elections right now.
00:25:36.000We're trying to put Donald Trump in prison for 500 to 600 years.
00:25:40.000I'm just curious when you're walking the halls.
00:25:42.000You don't have to name any names, but I would like you to kind of just convey some of the oppositional attitude because our audience is really confused and losing patience.
00:25:59.000Just kind of clue us in here to what you have to deal with every single day.
00:26:03.000To be honest, Charlie, what we're asking for, at least as the House Freedom Caucus position, the official position, is again to go back to pre-COVID levels for non-defense discretionary, meaning we're not dealing with mandatory this year at least, not Social Security Medicare.
00:26:19.000We've allowed defense in principle at least to stay where it was because we've got some issues there and try to keep our defense hawks, if you will, on the team on that.
00:26:30.000But then to go back to pre-COVID levels for non-defense discretionary spending.
00:26:35.000That only boils down to about $115 billion year one cut.
00:26:40.000It's an embarrassingly modest, reasonable number, if you will.
00:26:45.000We're running about $150 billion a month deficit.
00:26:49.000Now, so, but that was what the speaker committed to in January to my colleagues who negotiated an agreement with him.
00:26:56.000There were 14 of the 20 who went and did that.
00:26:58.000Six of us, as you know, never changed our vote.
00:27:00.000So we weren't part of that specific agreement.
00:27:02.000But it was reported and agreed to that we would go back to pre-COVID levels.
00:27:07.000That was also what every Republican or almost every Republican voted for in the Limit Save Grow bill, except for three or four who wanted even more and couldn't bring themselves to vote for that modest figure.
00:27:17.000But there were a lot of other good reforms that were part of Limit Save Grow.
00:27:20.000So that's sort of the principled position that the House Freedom Caucus has held to.
00:27:23.000We ought to at least be able to do that, advance our policies, which are really important within the legislation, but also to cut spending some degree with a Republican majority and recognizing that we're operating with one half of one branch of government.
00:27:38.000But what we cannot do, of course, is to just business as usual, fail the American people and do what the senator, Republican senators are calling to do.
00:27:47.000That said, Charlie, I think what you ask, hey, why would there be an objection to that?
00:27:50.000I think there's a few different things.
00:27:52.000Sometimes when you win with 51%, some of my colleagues, they're all worried about the 49% that didn't vote for them.
00:27:59.000And they're afraid to take tough votes and tough stances because of the 49%.
00:28:03.000And I'm always saying to them, worry about the 51%.
00:28:27.000This time's not the right time because maybe we don't have enough of a majority.
00:28:30.000We don't have the Senate or there's an election coming next year and things are just too, but we're going to fight next time.
00:28:36.000And as you know, next time never gets here.
00:28:38.000I think they want to do the right things, but they're fearful or they fall in line and listen to leadership or they just tell them, or they just don't want to make the tough decisions because anytime you cut spending, somebody is impacted by that.
00:28:50.000Somebody is benefiting from that spending, whether or not you might argue whether or not they should or not benefit from that spending or whether or not it's appropriate.
00:28:58.000But they tell themselves they'll do it next time.
00:28:59.000But doggone the Republican House should show that we have the stomach to stop borrowing from our kids and our grandkids, bankrupting our country.
00:29:07.000The days, Charlie, of spending without consequence are over.
00:29:11.000We're seeing record 40-year inflation.
00:29:13.000We're seeing interest rates being rising because of a futile attempt to combat the inflation that wasn't from a hot economy, but there was an inflation caused by the spending.
00:29:23.000And then we're also seeing our credit downgraded for only the second time in history.
00:29:27.000So again, the days of spending recklessly and arriving at debt to debt to GDP ratios we haven't seen since World War II.
00:29:37.000The consequence, days of doing that without consequence, are over.
00:29:40.000I think the American people are increasingly realizing there's a connection between spending and the impact on them.
00:29:46.000Congressman Bob Gooden, hold the line.
00:30:04.000It's hard to blame the Republican Party for not doing its job.
00:30:09.000I don't know if we have this particular clip actually of Tucker Carlson going after Greg Abbott, but Tucker gave a very powerful speech this last weekend in Michigan that touches on some of these themes.
00:30:20.000And I want to play this and we'll riff on it.
00:31:15.000We would rather have a beautiful community, not have our homes overrun by third world foreigners, people speaking the same language, an appreciation of our history.
00:31:25.000Politics is not the ultimate desire for conservatives.
00:32:07.000They're far less worried about individual rights, individual sovereignty, family formation, strong local community institutions.
00:32:15.000The state gives them that purpose for them.
00:32:18.000That's exactly what Marx talked about: the ruthless criticism of all that exists, constantly criticizing power structures to then go get power.
00:32:27.000Herbert Marcuse said the same thing in One Dimensional Man.
00:32:30.000So did Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida, the postmodernist thinkers of the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
00:32:36.000Tucker Carlson then is making the most headlines for this.
00:32:39.000And if you live in Texas, you need to listen carefully and closely.