00:01:02.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:24.000With us now is Devin Unez from the great Truth Social, which now can be found in the Google Android app store, if I understand that correctly.
00:02:20.000Yeah, look, I mean, I think we're the, you know, obviously we're the third largest social media platform despite all the fake news out there or the U.S. company.
00:02:29.000If you take Meta, Facebook, Instagram, obviously being the largest, Twitter's next, and then us.
00:02:34.000And so for a company that just barely fully launched four days ago, I think it's kind of an amazing place to be.
00:02:41.000And every day we're picking up new users.
00:02:43.000And, you know, we're the home of free speech.
00:03:05.000It consists of cloud, which we're using the Rumble Cloud, video, which we're using Rumble Video, and then also the new Rumble ad system that will compete with Google.
00:03:17.000And then Truth Social is essentially that communications platform now that we're fully launched in the U.S.
00:03:23.000And then soon we'll be having direct messages.
00:03:27.000So if you're on the platform, you'll be able to send direct messages back and forth between your followers.
00:03:33.000So, you know, something that people are really worried about is midterm, you know, communications, meaning that in the communication of social media censorship, you guys at Truth are figuring out a way to obviously kind of build that parallel voice.
00:03:47.000Talk about how it's very important people can express themselves freely and openly.
00:03:51.000And for the first time in this midterm election, we actually have a platform where we can get our voice out.
00:03:56.000Yeah, and I think that's the key, right?
00:03:58.000Are both true social and I would say rumble for that matter, we're now standing there in the breach.
00:04:05.000So that it's not as easy as for the tech tyrants just to do what they did in 2020 and ban the Hunter, you know, Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:04:15.000If True Social had existed back in 2020 and all of those platforms were banning that, well, you would have had the New York Post Fox, everyone would have had to have come to True Social to post the information, and the American public would have had to go to True Social to get that information.
00:04:27.000But there just wasn't something like that that existed at the time.
00:04:31.000So, you know, now that True Social and Rumble have built this new internet superhighway that essentially is not going to censor people for political purposes, you know, that's why I left Congress.
00:04:45.000And we just don't want to see what happened in 2020 and 21, where certain news stories are censored.
00:04:53.000And then ultimately, you saw what happened to Parler, where they were completely just nuked off of the internet by these big tech companies.
00:05:00.000So both True Social and Rumble, we've built this block by block, piece by piece.
00:05:05.000And I almost look at it as, you know, really, it's almost two things.
00:05:09.000It's an open internet to give people their voice back.
00:05:12.000But Charlie, for people like you, it's also a really important insurance policy because a lot of people have built up huge audiences on YouTube just to one day wake up and poof, they're gone.
00:05:25.000They got, you know, get banned from every single platform.
00:05:27.000And so I think if you're a content creator, small or large, you know, it's really important to be active on both True Social and Rumble.
00:05:42.000The majority of people say they don't think the president cares about people like them, and most don't see the president as a strong leader.
00:05:50.000When it comes to 2024, nearly one-fifth of voters in the president's own party say they'd like to see a different candidate on the ballot.
00:05:59.000And not to mention just general direction of the country, you know, the economy is becoming the number one issue in this midterm.
00:06:06.000You've been through a lot of different elections.
00:06:07.000How do you feel going in 22 days from any Democrats that are out there that actually are saying they want Biden to run again, those are going to completely dissipate after this next election if it is indeed a wave?
00:06:20.000Charlie, I got my start in politics in 1994, parking cars, putting up signs for that wave that nobody saw coming.
00:06:31.000I was out recruiting candidates, raising money on the campaign trail.
00:06:35.000Nobody thought that we were going to win, but I'll say that we had really good candidates across the board, and we went pretty deep.
00:06:41.000The Republicans at the time, we played in a lot of races.
00:06:44.000And of course, boom, we won back the House and the Senate in 2010.
00:06:49.000I will tell you, having been there in 2021, out recruiting candidates, working with the NRCC, raising money, doing events all over the country when I was still in Congress, I'll tell you, we have never had a crop of candidates like this across the board in both the House.
00:07:05.000And I will say this too, even the Senate.
00:07:08.000You've got a lot of the fake news out there, some Republicans playing into this game that, oh, that we've got weak Senate candidates.
00:07:14.000You know, that is just absolute nonsense.
00:07:17.000You know, in any normal year without the fake news, you know, you take an Oz, who's a very popular figure, you know, TV guy.
00:07:24.000You know, those are always people that you want.
00:07:26.000You want people with name ID that people know, that star factor.
00:08:03.000I think if you, you know, I know everybody wants to hear about numbers, but look, I think the Republicans are looking at somewhere between a 25 to 40 seat pickup, which would, you know, if you get to the 40 seat pickup, you're talking about the largest majority that the Republican Party has ever had.
00:08:20.000And I think that's, you know, look, we'll see how things break, but clearly, and I know you've probably talked about this, but, you know, Biden is just completely aloof.
00:08:28.000You got his wife showing up getting booed at the Eagles games.
00:08:31.000You got him, you know, licking on ice cream, saying that $7 gas in California is normal.
00:08:37.000I mean, these are, this is a party that is really taking the country down a very dark path and have been.
00:08:46.000It's because their policies just don't work.
00:08:49.000They put in these new, woke, extreme left policies, and they have failed.
00:08:54.000And that's why we have this global inflation that is absolutely destroying people at home.
00:09:00.000And so, you know, we were talking about True Social and big tech.
00:09:04.000You know, sometimes all, you know, controlling all the fake news or nearly all the fake news, being able to censor it through all the internet.
00:09:11.000The problem they have, Charlie, is you cannot censor $7 gas out in California.
00:09:17.000See, people see it every day in the grocery store, when they drive by a gas station.
00:09:21.000And I think it's going to be really ugly for them here in three weeks.
00:09:24.000It looks like it's going to collapse, but we got to put our shoulders to the wheel.
00:09:27.000What is President Trump's plan for these midterms?
00:09:30.000Because I know he's doing some rallies and stuff, but I told him this on the phone.
00:09:39.000And I'm not saying he's not out there right now, but I grew kind of accustomed to President Trump back in back in 2018 when he did that blitz.
00:11:23.000Look, he's been all over the country all year.
00:11:26.000He's the party's number one fundraiser, and he's continuing, you know, and that's with True Social, his only social media platform, just barely now being open to all the users in the United States.
00:11:37.000So he's largely had to rely on emails and these huge rallies that he's been holding basically every week or two.
00:11:46.000And Charlie, look, I don't know exactly what's in store.
00:11:55.000He has never stopped recruiting good candidates to run in these races.
00:12:01.000And, you know, he's been involved not just in the House and Senate races, he's also been involved in the gubernatorial races.
00:12:07.000And look, right now it's looking really good.
00:12:12.000You know, we're what, 22 days out right now.
00:12:15.000I would, I would guess that he's going to start to ramp up rapidly.
00:12:18.000I mean, I know this, that if a candidate really wants him to come in, you know, he's going to make every effort he can to get to that candidate's district or state.
00:12:28.000And if you look across the board, you know, he's hit about the top five or six top states where there's tight Senate races.
00:12:48.000But Charlie, as you well know, neither one of us can control what Donald Trump says or no, I'm just asking because I say it as a form of flattery for the president.
00:13:00.000When I was talking to him, I said, you can win us these midterms.
00:13:35.000I was just going to say, Charlie, I think that's a very good point because this really is, we're really in an unprecedented era of U.S. politics.
00:13:47.000Because you had Donald Trump, who was not in politics, business guy, shocks the world, wins in 2016, and then is very popular.
00:13:57.000Obviously does not come back to the White, does not get re-elected to the White House, but he's never relinquished control.
00:14:05.000He still is the Republican Party leader.
00:14:07.000And we haven't seen that in Republican politics for a very long time.
00:14:11.000And if you compare him to, say, Obama, where Obama has served his two terms, but Obama can't show up and get 10 or 20,000 people to a rally.
00:14:23.000In fact, I saw he was out doing some political campaign events the other day.
00:14:26.000And look, and I'm not clearly not an Obama fan, but I will tell you back in 2008 when he was campaigning for office, I mean, the guy could flat out get a crowd and he could give a good sense that I agreed.
00:14:44.000And what's interesting is that Trump can still do it today.
00:14:49.000And that's, and I don't think we've ever seen that in American politics in modern history, where you have a former president who is effectively still the party leader.
00:15:00.000You know, look, people just don't respond.
00:15:02.000And I'm not being critical of some of my former Republican colleagues in the House or the Senate, but Joe Blow congressman doesn't send out an email or do a rally and say, hey, come and support JD Vance.
00:15:14.000I don't think Paul Ryan is drawing very big crowds right now.
00:15:19.000Paul Ryan, who has very nasty things to say about Donald Trump.
00:15:25.000The way FDR completely changed the Democrat Party, they were known as FDR Democrats for two generations, New Deal Democrats in the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s, really until Bill Clinton came along.
00:15:37.000Reagan really changed the Republican Party and there were Reagan Republicans.
00:15:40.000I think Donald Trump's mark on the Republican Party is even very similar.
00:15:58.000And something that bothered him, and you can just feel it when he talks, when he drove around that Rust Belt and flew to the Rust Belt and did meetings for 20, 30 years, and he watched all these businesses and jobs go overseas, it left a mark on him.
00:16:16.000When they say America first, it's about bringing American jobs back here.
00:16:20.000It's about really standing up to China.
00:16:22.000It's about not getting involved in increasing foreign wars.
00:16:26.000And I think one of the appeals of Trump is that in a world where we live, where people say men can become pregnant, all this, Donald Trump is so real because he always had to deal in things that worked.
00:16:35.000Trump did not build wealth with abstractions.
00:16:39.000He built wealth with building things that actually mattered.
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00:17:55.000He's a pollster data analyst, and we're going to talk all things midterms as it's very, very important.
00:18:01.000But first, I just want to reiterate: if you're in anywhere in the great city of Fargo, Tallahassee, Charlotte, or Kansas City, I would love to see you.
00:19:04.000You know, we're midway through October here, Charlie.
00:19:08.000And what I expected to happen was, you know, before the summer, all year, we had seen historically large leads on the generic ballot for Republicans bigger than anything we've ever measured before.
00:19:20.000And that the issues had kind of solidified over the summer.
00:19:24.000Polling can get a little screwy, but also there were some, you know, wrenches thrown.
00:19:38.000And Republicans, you know, without insulting anybody, Republicans tend to live their lives a little bit more without being so interested in high interest in politics the way that Democrats are.
00:19:51.000They're not as willing to participate in surveys, period.
00:19:54.000And then when the summer comes along, there's a response bias.
00:19:58.000And I think there was something more going on this time, though, Charlie.
00:20:04.000And I think any pollster that is being honest will agree with me that after that speech, and the Mar-a-Lago raid, you know, they retreated.
00:20:14.000They were afraid, you know, basically to talk.
00:20:26.000And our social bias indicators went through the roof, which we have questions that we use to measure how much social bias is infecting the survey.
00:21:09.000And over this weekend, I think you even see some media polls finally start to admit it.
00:21:14.000Over the weekend, the beginning of the dam starting to break happened.
00:21:20.000You know, we're district-level polling that is in places that you would never expect to be close, closer.
00:21:26.000And the generic ballot nationally, it's not done yet, but I will be able to, I mean, I can confidently say Republicans are going to grow their lead in our generic ballot poll nationally.
00:21:37.000So it's, and we all should have expected this.
00:21:40.000It's a first-term incumbent midterm with an unpopular president.
00:21:44.000Right track, wrong track is historically negative.
00:22:18.000I think Republicans are going to do better with Hispanics than they have in the past.
00:22:22.000I think if you're at 38%, you need to tick that up at least a bit to four points or so at least.
00:22:28.000And then in concentrated areas, I think we're going to see Republican candidates carry Hispanic voters in statewide races, which is going to stun a lot of people.
00:22:36.000But I think they better get ready for it because I think it's going to happen.
00:22:40.000I'm confident in some of these races, it's going to happen.
00:22:43.000But the working class in that Sienna poll, they at least picked that up.
00:24:40.000I don't want to wrestle on our laurels, but we are having a discussion of our team where one person on our team says, I'm not really big into the vibe.
00:25:14.000You know, some of the other Republicans that are going to win, it looks like statewide, are going to do it on the back of pretty decent working class vote.
00:25:21.000Kerry Lake is actually doing really well with college degree voters, not post-grads.
00:25:26.000You know, they're just tough nut to crack, Charlie.
00:25:28.000But if you can get, and so is Abraham Homeday, if you can get four-year voters to basically split or be within that sampling era, you're looking at a potential blowout.
00:26:39.000They don't really know how to poll that well.
00:26:41.000I actually think that DeWine, he's going to win, but it's possible they overstate DeWine's support a little bit because they're going to talk about how these Republican governors, I think, are going to carry for sure.
00:26:53.000Do you think that might be a leading indicator?
00:26:59.000Am I really supposed to believe, according to these polls, that Brian Kemp wins by eight and Warnock wins by three, that 11 points of a split of a Kemp Warnock voter?
00:27:10.000Yeah, that doesn't doesn't really happen.
00:27:12.000In rare cases, when, right, like you said, there are, you know, specific candidate or local issues or local scandals or something that has happened.
00:27:50.000In Arizona, our polling shows that Masters trails Lake by about four.
00:27:56.000So if Lake wins by five, Masters eeks it out.
00:28:00.000Now, I don't know if our new polling is going to confirm that or if something changed, but Masters does have some groups that he's got to deal with.
00:29:23.000I mean, if Katie Hobbs wins, I will be shocked.
00:29:25.000I mean, I'm not saying Carrie, I'm not going to guarantee Katie will, Carrie will win by a lot, but there is an enthusiasm component in the equation.
00:29:34.000I'm telling you, Rich, I get stopped in grocery stores and people say, look, I just recently moved and I wanted to move earlier just to be able to vote for Kerry Lake.
00:29:44.000You know, we have people that are just, I mean, that's not normal.
00:30:04.000There's a lot of Midwestern right-wingers like me that grew up in Chicago, grew up in Michigan, and we might be considered moderates in the Midwest, not me.
00:30:11.000You come into Arizona, you're considered a right-winger, and they love Carrie Lake.
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00:32:10.000But, you know, right now, I don't know if we're at 50 yet, but I mean, Charlie, this is, you know, this has been the closest Republicans have been to shattering that 247 since the spring, really.
00:32:22.000This is looking like the levy's going to break.
00:32:26.000So a devil's advocate, a devil's advocate that a smart person I know that we kind of helped us said something that really made me think last night.
00:32:33.000I don't know if I agree with it, is that polling is actually pretty accurate if Trump is not on the ballot.