00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today at the Charlie Kirk Show, Steve Dace and Dr. Pierre Corey, we break through the latest unbelievable bombshell study out of Germany regarding the vaccine.
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00:01:08.000There's so much I want to get to and no time to spare at all.
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00:01:28.000Dr. Corey, welcome back to the program.
00:02:12.000You know, the life insurance industry has been showing data now for a while that working-aged Americans, 18 to 64 years old, the CDC has this data, that starting in 2021, right around the end of the first quarter, their all-cause mortality started to rise to unprecedented, historically unprecedented levels.
00:02:55.000And we're attributing it to the vaccines.
00:02:56.000And the life insurance industry is only one thing.
00:02:59.000Disability figures are showing the same, which is historic, unprecedented rises around the same time.
00:03:06.000And then you have this proliferation reports, like you talked about, Charlie, of young people, no comorbidities, suddenly arresting, being found dead in their beds.
00:03:15.000And I mean, that's just anecdotal reports, but the numbers of them are absolutely terrifying.
00:03:21.000And, you know, a lot of us who've been following the data on the toxicity of the vaccines, we're just going to keep doing what we're doing.
00:03:27.000We're trying to put forth that data to guide the American public in how to preserve and protect their health and their lives, really.
00:03:59.000So that's one particular major hospital in the Midwest, which I have a colleague who works there.
00:04:06.000But a crash card is where we keep all the equipment and medicines in order to resuscitate someone from cardiac arrest.
00:04:13.000And so that's a true medical emergency.
00:04:15.000Those kind of emergencies happen, I wouldn't say routinely, but they happen inside hospitals on medical wards and in ICUs.
00:04:22.000And when someone is found to be pulseless or in cardiac arrest, you know, a whole response is triggered and the crash card is central to that.
00:04:31.000And the thing about the crash cards, Charlie, is that once you resuscitate someone from a cardiac arrest, those crash cards are in disarray.
00:04:39.000The medicines have all been disturbed.
00:04:41.000Equipment has been used and disrupted.
00:04:44.000And they need to be restocked immediately in case someone else were to arrest in that same location of the hospital.
00:04:51.000Apparently, the cardiac arrests, especially the unexpected, and in particular in young people in the hospital, are happening at such a frequency that one major hospital is now putting more crash cards available on the floors.
00:05:05.000I mean, that's just one little data point that just, again, illuminates what is a humanitarian catastrophe.
00:05:12.000So is all cause mortality going up in America?
00:05:18.000I know the data for 18 to 64-year-olds.
00:05:21.000I think in older groups, it gets a little jumbled.
00:05:26.000I don't know the exact data for the older age groups, but I know that's a little bit confounded because of the very high excess mortality we had earlier in the pandemic.
00:05:34.000Many of our older population died earlier.
00:05:38.000So that 2021 data is not as impressive as that sudden rise in the working age Americans, which with these milder variants, Charlie, you can't blame it on COVID, right?
00:05:50.000These are generally younger people with much less comorbidities, and yet you're seeing this historic rise.
00:05:55.000And for those who try to dismiss it as, you know, gunshots or overdoses or suicides, you know, why would they suddenly occur at the end of quarter one and 2021?
00:06:05.000Those are epidemics that we've been dealing with now for a long time.
00:06:09.000But the timing of the rise is absolutely stunning.
00:06:13.000So, doctor, is there any other potential explanation?
00:06:17.000I always try to check my premise and not try to get too into my own narrative.
00:06:22.000Is there any other explanation for this?
00:06:24.000When I review all the data, and you're absolutely right, your intuition is correct.
00:06:30.000We don't want to leap to dramatic conclusions, sensationalize things.
00:06:35.000But I've looked at a lot more data points.
00:06:37.000Charlie, we could do this for an hour.
00:06:39.000I will tell you, one of the most troubling was a researcher did an analysis of the Massachusetts death certificates, and he compared 2020 and 2021.
00:06:50.000And that was a really telling finding.
00:06:53.000What happened is in 2020, all the excess mortality in the population was from largely driven by respiratory disease.
00:07:00.000People are dying of respiratory failure, which is what this respiratory virus does.
00:07:05.000In 2021, it changed to largely under the category of cardiovascular, meaning heart attacks, strokes, sudden arrests, aneurysms, pulmonary emboli.
00:07:17.000So in the middle of a pandemic, from one year to the next, we have the population excess mortality largely from respiratory causes now changing to cardiovascular causes.
00:07:28.000I mean, there's only one way that we can explain that.
00:07:31.000I mean, something was introduced into the population that was injected.
00:07:36.000I mean, that's one, that's a sort of a crude way of stating that.
00:07:39.000But I find that a pretty damning piece of data to suggest that something happened.
00:07:46.000Again, the timing of that shift of the excess mortality is, I can't find other explanations.
00:07:52.000And the last thing, Charlie, is, you know, we're forgetting that the long-held regulatory standard is that when you introduce an experimental or novel medical intervention, the generally accepted standard historically is when you start to see concerning data or disturbing reports of death or adverse events, you're supposed to assume it's related to that new intervention until proven otherwise.
00:08:16.000And what I see is as a society and all the agencies, they've upended that.
00:08:21.000And instead, they assume and dismiss at it being unrelated until proving it's causative.
00:08:29.000We have to assume that that is the primary cause.
00:08:32.000We do not have any other good explanations to dismiss that away with.
00:08:37.000At some point, there's going to be a smoking gun here.
00:08:40.000And the life insurance industry is part of this, but it's not limited to that, to your point.
00:08:45.000And so look, the last two FDA meetings, they've approved these phase three experimental gene therapies for babies and toddlers, they call it a vaccine, six months to four-year-olds, as well as voted to skip future clinical trials for these vaccines as modified going forward.
00:09:02.000One of the only doc, only one doctor on the entire committee who voted no and said the fix was in.
00:09:09.000Why are they so fascinated about vaccinating six month year olds?
00:09:13.000Very briefly, Charlie, and I think you and I have talked about this before.
00:09:16.000That is one of the most crudest and obscene examples of total regulatory capture.
00:09:20.000There is no public health benefit to those children.
00:10:38.000Dr. Corey, this is something I've asked you every time you've come on the program, especially our longer form interviews.
00:10:44.000But I'm going to find a new way to ask about the same essence of the question with a little bit of a change, which is I'm losing my faith in institutional science in America.
00:10:52.000And I saw a quote that made me think of something we've discussed, which is one of the reasons why I don't trust the science is because the science always follows the money.
00:11:00.000You don't follow the science because the science follows the money.
00:11:02.000You mentioned that idea of regulatory capture.
00:11:05.000I can read quote after quote, where whether it be Dr. Fauci who says that the vaccines do not protect against infection overly well, we have evidence to show the FOIA request suggests the CDC has not even been monitoring VARES data, as Cheryl Atkinson has reported.
00:11:21.000I've always held up this idea of science and this pursuit of empirical truth as a beacon of the West.
00:11:29.000Is that been put in permanent jeopardy because of corporate capture of our institutions?
00:11:35.000I think at the institutional level, science has been captured and corrupted for sure.
00:11:40.000However, I work out amongst the population.
00:12:14.000And I think you do not have good policies.
00:12:16.000In fact, Charlie, I'm sure you're aware of this, but there was a landmark article, in my opinion, that came out this week, which is showing that scientists and researchers are leaving those institutions right now in droves.
00:12:29.000They've said they're sick of working institutions that is essentially committing and practicing bad science and that is under heavily political influence.
00:12:38.000I personally am a little bit more cynical.
00:12:39.000I think they're leaving because they see the crash coming and they want to protect their careers and their reputations.
00:12:45.000And so they want to distance themselves from the pseudo-science, which has not been science, that is in practice.
00:13:25.000And we've never received what really bothers me, and we haven't talked in months, we've never received an apology from any of these people for the deaths, for the lives that have been altered.
00:13:36.000I mean, it's not just that they've been wrong, they have refused to admit any failure along the way.
00:13:42.000And anything short of idolatry-style worship is not acceptable of these people.
00:13:49.000Yeah, this new rule where anyone who deviated from scientific consensus is another one of the great historical kind of crimes, right?
00:13:59.000So, the idea that you could have a scientific consensus in a novel disease in which we were learning things about it every single day, and suddenly some position of the agency became emblazoned in stone, you know, that was unassailable.
00:14:16.000And anyone who spoke differently with different data, different insights, was immediately not only dismissed, attacked, but censored really from anywhere in a public forum.
00:14:28.000And when you look, Charlie, at the agencies themselves, their own positions and policies have done nothing but shift rapidly.
00:14:35.000Everything that they said two years ago very quickly became something different.
00:14:39.000And so, if I were to follow scientific consensus at every single time point, my head would spin around, right?
00:14:46.000I mean, I just find the censorship and the propaganda and this top-down authoritarianism is anti-science.
00:14:55.000It's basically learning from us, not we learn from them.
00:14:58.000And it's just there's so many people that are still propagandized to it.
00:15:02.000And for example, the more you inject, the more you infect.
00:15:07.000And if you say that on certain social media sites, you're immediately banned still to this time.
00:15:12.000Fortunately, we're out of time, Dr. Corey.
00:15:14.000How do people follow you and support you?
00:15:40.000And it's a deeper conversation for another time, Dr. Corey.
00:15:44.000How we at the pinnacle of modernity have decided to go back to scholastic dark ages of unquestioned dogma and almost religious zeal of the suppression of inquiry.
00:15:55.000It's a very interesting, more deeper philosophical question because you'd think that as we hit the zenith of modernity with Twitter and self-driving cars, we'd be more open.
00:16:04.000No, it's actually more totalitarian than ever.
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00:17:26.000Imagine you're a German citizen in the last two weeks.
00:17:28.000They told you, we aren't going to be able to help you heat your home this winter.
00:17:31.000And oh, by the way, yeah, that jab we mandated you all take one out of every 5,000 we're estimating creates what the German health department said, quote, is a serious adverse effect, end quote.
00:17:53.000Obviously, AstraZeneca would be more prevalent in Europe than it's not here.
00:17:58.000But just to show you that those numbers are estimated low in our own vaccine adverse reporting system, adverse effect reporting system, otherwise known as VARES, there's more than that in just sheer hospitalizations that are reported on there.
00:18:11.000And if you know anything about VAERS, you've got to go through numerous pages of citations and stuff to report an adverse event, which leads to things being under-reported there because it's not something that you can easily document in the system.
00:18:25.000It kind of weeds out people who aren't serious about reporting an adverse effect.
00:18:30.000But even if we just took their numbers, Charlie, as gospel, they're not.
00:18:50.000It would be the biggest story in the country, Charlie, if you got up one day and we learned everybody in Billings, Montana is in the hospital, either with myocarditis, pericarditis, carditis.
00:19:03.000It would be the number one story in America if this happened, right?
00:19:07.000And yet, a lot of people, including, frankly, a lot of people in our own side of the industry, I understand why corporate media that's completely sold out to big pharma doesn't seem, but a lot of our peers act like it doesn't happen.
00:19:19.000A lot of our, you know, a lot of our Republicans don't say a word about it.
00:19:24.000It is truly bizarre that this plague is happening right now.
00:19:28.000And in very few places, do they want to acknowledge it?
00:20:26.000I mean, she has been, if DeSantis is in a tier by himself, she would be in whatever the next tier is of not just good compared to other Republicans, because that's a low bar, but like legitimately good.
00:20:37.000But there is clearly a major blind spot on this issue.
00:20:40.000And I think maybe I understand it because, you know, my assistant, Todd, who I co-wrote Fauci and Bargain with, he is a committed granola crunching righty anti-vaxer.
00:20:52.000And I always thought it was weird and I always thought it was quirky.
00:20:55.000And, you know, I didn't really care, you know, when cold and flu season went around every year and him and his kids weren't vaccinated.
00:21:01.000And me and my kids were because, you know, 10 years ago, I went and did a mission trip in Haiti and the Obama State Department told me I had to have all my classic boosters and everything updated in order to come back because it's the poorest country in our hemisphere.
00:21:13.000And so the reason I wasn't worried about it is because I was vaccinated.
00:21:16.000So if I went to Haiti and got something, I was inoculated.
00:21:28.000But this is the first time ever now that we have been told that the failure of a product is to be blamed on the people who did not purchase or use it.
00:21:49.000It no longer is something that stops you from getting an infection.
00:21:53.000There's a study out right now from the European Medical Society that is openly saying that repeated injections and boosters can harm the immune system.
00:22:03.000After eight months, they found that people who were unvaccinated had stronger immune systems than people who were vaccinated.
00:22:11.000This is not, you know, on the blades where I work, or this isn't the Charlie Kirk show.
00:22:15.000This isn't the friggin Lancet they're reporting this.
00:22:17.000And I think that a lot of our people, and I would count myself among them, you know, because I have now have to ask myself this question, Charlie.
00:22:24.000If they did it with this one, am I really supposed to believe they've never done it before ever?
00:22:29.000They just did it for the first time with this one.
00:22:31.000And I think that's where good people like Kim Reynolds and a lot of the people that you are indirectly referring to, we are uncomfortable with where this conversation goes if we acknowledge that this is happening right now.
00:22:43.000And so there's this sort of cognitive dissonance that is happening.
00:22:46.000Yeah, I mean, she's a nice person, but I mean, I just reminded myself of it because I was like, I think I'm losing my mind.
00:22:51.000I mean, she got the COVID booster shot.
00:22:53.000She got, she did all these videos telling people to get vaccinated.
00:22:56.000And so potentially Iowans died because of that, right?
00:23:03.000I just, I don't understand why Republicans are afraid to talk about this issue.
00:23:09.000I mean, well, I think we go to the we go to the former president.
00:23:12.000I mean, he was in Alaska last week and at his rally and in the middle of it out of nowhere says, well, they don't want me to mention this because he knows he'll get booed because the previous times he's brought up the vaccine, he's gotten booed.
00:23:25.000I mean, I mean, it takes a lot, given the resume he can present to those people for him to present something that would get him booed.
00:23:33.000And then for him to then claim, though, afterwards, but I saved all these lives and I'm really proud of it, even though I can't mention it.
00:23:39.000I think that we're going to have to create a situation here where we're going to have to force a lot of eyes open.
00:23:46.000Now, the good news is this time next year, the couple of names we've mentioned, Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump, are probably going to be right here in my backyard trying to win people like me over, running for president.
00:23:57.000And we're going to have a captive audience.
00:23:58.000And I can promise you, within the grassroots here in Iowa, where our audiences that we talk to across the country, there is a huge appetite to wake these Republicans up on what is going on.
00:24:09.000I've said this to the president before.
00:24:10.000I'm a big supporter of his, obviously.
00:24:12.000I said it's his second biggest vulnerability going to 24 is the support of the vaccine.
00:24:20.000And then number two is the vaccine thing.
00:24:22.000It's just, it's not just deeply unpopular.
00:24:25.000It is a majorly personal issue where people feel as if this vaccine isn't just like a bad thing, that it's been poisonous to people.
00:24:34.000I mean, the German government comes out and they say, again, I want to repeat this, one reported severe reaction per 5,000 vaccine injections, not per 5,000 people.
00:24:56.000So, Steve, I want to ask you just more broadly.
00:24:59.000The Republican Party now just voted, 47 of them voted to make gay marriage permanent.
00:25:08.000And Tucker talked about this, by the way, with Bob Vanderplatz, the family leader.
00:25:12.000There is this growing just chasm between the people and our politicians.
00:25:18.000Do you feel that starting to tighten a little bit on the Republican side?
00:25:21.000Why is it that our leaders continually betray us?
00:25:25.000I think it's a very simple yet difficult conclusion.
00:25:30.000And for a long time, Charlie, I really thought it was only on the left where magical thinking of accepting realities on the basis of whether it's convenient for me to acknowledge it and not on the basis of whether it's objectively true was largely relegated to them.
00:25:44.000And maybe for a long time in this country, it was, but when tumors are left unreated, they metastasize.
00:25:51.000And now a lot of this has seeped into our own barracks here on the other side as well.
00:25:56.000And I think that a lot of people just don't want to accept.
00:26:02.000It's the evil party versus the stupid party.
00:26:04.000It really just comes down to they just don't agree with you.
00:26:09.000And I just think that we don't want to accept that.
00:26:13.000And because the work it will take to confront that, just similar to the conversation we just had, the work it will take to confront that is extraordinary.
00:26:22.000And it's much easier to look at the cultural hole we're in and just assume that Donald Trump, with the force of his will and personality and Ron DeSantis, with the force of his resume, will just give them the keys to the kingdom and they will be a modern day King Josiah.
00:26:38.000If you know you're to make a biblical reference, and they'll go the extra mile.
00:26:41.000They'll go to the high places and tear down the asher poles and deliver us.
00:26:45.000That's not really what government by the consent of the governed means.
00:26:51.000And I think what's extraordinary is in several areas, both of them actually pushed their base further than their base actually was at that particular time and were successful because of it.
00:27:02.000But that is not a long-term recipe to political success.
00:27:05.000The long-term recipe to political success is you are actually more radicalized than your leaders and you forced them there.
00:27:12.000One of the things that amazed me when I was really trying to first start to build a name for myself when we went national is I agreed to do over 50 appearances on MSNBC as a token conservative.
00:27:23.000And we debated every topic, gay marriage, like all the divisive ones.
00:27:56.000That's why they're losing their minds over Joe Manchin in Kirsten Cinema right now.
00:28:00.000Because they're not used to seeing somebody in their own ranks defy their own base, right?
00:28:06.000And on our side, we're shocked when the people we elect align with the base.
00:28:11.000And that's why I often say that the biggest difference between the two parties is that Democrats inspire their base to get what they want, and Republicans conspire against their base to get what they want.
00:28:31.000We could talk about Iowa all day long.
00:28:32.000I just, why the vote, the, you might not agree with this, I don't know, but why sending $56 billion to Ukraine is like a top concern of one of your favorite people.
00:28:41.000I went through wholeheartedly on this.
00:29:31.000Only one of those products, Charlie, even got as far as human trials.
00:29:35.000The previous eight failed before they even got to that point.
00:29:38.000And yet we are expected to believe that out of nowhere, suddenly they stuck the landing on this technology and they did so with a novel coronavirus in less than a year when they spent over 10 years trying to come up with a vaccine to the original SARS and were unable to do so.
00:29:55.000This is something that I think when you frame questions to those candidates, when they come to your early states, like where I live in Iowa, South Carolina, or New Hampshire, right?
00:30:04.000Or those Super Tuesday states, frame the question that way.
00:30:07.000Explain to me how it is possible that they actually got this right in such a short period of time after getting it wrong, nine previous attempts.
00:30:16.000And could that possibly explain all these adverse effects we're seeing around the country?
00:30:21.000Don't come at them with just a sentiment.
00:30:22.000They're coached about how to get around that.
00:31:47.000I think the biggest thing is too many of our major conservative platforms. have not engaged in this level of activism or encouragement of it and made this a passive or esoteric affair.
00:31:59.000And our people have sort of been conditioned in that way accordingly.