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00:01:40.000Steve, I've enjoyed your sub stack over the last couple months.
00:01:43.000I read off your sub stack back in July, and the whole world decided to get outraged because I speculated that VARES might be low.
00:01:51.000But first, just introduce yourself to our audience about how you got into this kind of journey of analyzing COVID data and we'll go from there.
00:02:03.000I was an executive at a high-tech company.
00:02:07.000I've been a serial entrepreneur for years in Silicon Valley.
00:02:11.000And when COVID hit, I wanted to do something that could make a difference.
00:02:15.000And so I ended up starting the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund in order to fund scientists on early treatments, which many scientists viewed as the fastest, safest, and cheapest way to end the pandemic.
00:02:27.000We were successful in finding drugs that worked.
00:02:38.000And then a year later, after the phase three trial was completed, it showed that if you took the drug early, that it would reduce death by a factor of 12.
00:02:47.000And the medical community ignored that and still ignores it to this day.
00:02:53.000So I still believed in the whole system, and I ended up getting the Moderna vaccine.
00:03:02.000I got the first and second dose, and my family was doubly vexed as well.
00:03:09.000And then a month later, I started hearing from my friends troubling things.
00:03:14.000Like one person said that she had three relatives who died a week after they got the vaccine and they were perfectly healthy before then.
00:03:21.000And then a week after I heard that my carpet cleaner came in and he told me that he had a heart attack two minutes after he got the vaccine and his wife was injured as well.
00:03:32.000And at that point, I said, you know, that can't happen by chance.
00:03:38.000It's really unlikely that it happens by chance.
00:03:40.000And so I just started looking into the underlying science behind this rather than just listening to the experts.
00:03:46.000And what I found was pretty appalling.
00:03:49.000And the more evidence that I uncovered and looked at and talked with other scientists about, the more it was clear that we don't have a safe and effective vaccine.
00:03:59.000We have a vaccine which is unsafe and ineffective, and that early treatment is the way to approach this virus.
00:04:08.000Yeah, and they can't smear you as an anti-vaccine.
00:04:18.000I'm 28 and I had plenty of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, zinc, melatonin, and aspirin.
00:04:23.000But in early May, right before my wedding, the last show we did was I decided to ask my audience, hey, does anyone know anyone that has been harmed or dropped dead after getting the vaccine?
00:04:34.000Just asking our audience, then I go, get married, go on my honeymoon, come back and open my email to like 8,000 emails.
00:04:41.000And the reason I asked the question is just in my own little kind of sphere of influence, I started to hear kind of one-off things like, oh, yeah, 38-year-old guy, he's a carpenter, perfectly healthy.
00:04:54.000If you hear two or three and then you model that out for the whole country, it doesn't take a degree in advanced mathematics to be like, oh, yeah, that's probably something that we should be concerned about.
00:05:05.000So you started open-minded, and let's just kind of dive right into it.
00:05:10.000What do you think most people need to know about the vaccine when it comes to potential damage it is doing to the country?
00:05:18.000Well, the most important thing is that there is risk associated with the vaccine.
00:05:26.000And where there is risk, there must be choice, as Dr. Robert Malone is fond of saying.
00:05:33.000And so at a minimum, everybody should recognize that this vaccine is risky and therefore it should not be mandated.
00:05:41.000You should never be mandated something that could end your life.
00:05:46.000But the mathematics and the numbers are very clear that these vaccines are killing massive numbers of people.
00:05:54.000And in fact, they are killing more people than they are saving.
00:05:59.000And so to mandate that you get an medical intervention that is more likely to kill you than to save your life is immoral, it's unethical.
00:06:12.000And, you know, there's no way to justify it.
00:06:16.000And this is why none of the people who advocate for this will debate me or anybody else who shares my point of view that the vaccines are unsafe and ineffective.
00:06:32.000In fact, the latest data shows that against Omicron, if you're triply boosted, or even if you're doubly boosted, after 90 days, the vaccine makes you more likely to get Omicron rather than less likely compared to an unvaccinated person.
00:06:51.000And so, you know, not only is it more likely to kill you than to save you, but it's also going to make you more likely to get infected.
00:07:04.000And so it makes no sense no matter which way from a safety point of view, it makes no sense from an efficacy point of view.
00:07:12.000And especially in light of early treatments, where we have the Farid and Tyson protocol, which was created in March of 2020, and they've treated over 10,000 people with that.
00:07:23.000And if you got it relatively early in the course of the disease, nobody dies.
00:07:28.000And so that protocol has been suppressed.
00:07:34.000They tried to get the NIH's attention on it way back when they created it, when George Farid and Brian Tyson created it.
00:07:42.000And NIH was not interested in hearing any of the data or looking at any of the data or, you know, now you've got 10,000 treated with no deaths.
00:07:54.000I mean, it's truly stunning and it shows you the power of early treatment.
00:08:00.000And it's still, even to this day, being ignored by the authorities, which is truly tragic.
00:08:32.000And you can read the various articles and the backup data.
00:08:38.000But the most primary data source is the VERIS data source, but there are other data sources as well, and they confirm the numbers.
00:08:47.000And we compare that to the number saved from the randomized trials, which are the gold standard for numbers in this case.
00:08:57.000And it's quite clear that it's negative in terms of far more people killed.
00:09:06.000So basically, you take over 10,000 deaths reported into the VERIS system.
00:09:11.000The VARIS system, using the CDC's own methodology, is 41 times underreported for significant adverse events.
00:09:21.000And for minor adversary events, it's even more underreported.
00:09:24.000And so you take 41 times 10,000 and you get 410,000.
00:09:30.000You have to subtract off the number of people who had a COVID as a symptom and say, hey, you know, if we're going to be conservative here, let's just assume that all those people died from COVID, not from the vaccine.
00:09:42.000But, you know, you're left with well over, you know, you're pretty much close to 400,000 excess deaths.
00:09:49.000And then you have to ask the question, okay, so these are correlated with the vaccines, but maybe not caused by the vaccine.
00:09:54.000So if they're not caused by the vaccine, what were they caused by?
00:09:58.000I know, at least in my own circle, my lying, I believe my lying eyes, right?
00:10:02.000Which is there's so many people that have disruptions.
00:10:05.000And you're just talking about deaths, Steve, not the other things as well.
00:10:08.000So Steve, I'm going to read from the New York Times.
00:10:10.000It says that if you are vaccinated, you're six times more likely to survive than if you're unvaccinated.
00:11:37.000There hasn't been anything that's been done since then as far as I'm aware that it was a randomized double-blind control trial that had a death benefit because that trial would have to be huge in numbers to show a significant effect.
00:11:56.000And so those numbers just don't exist.
00:11:58.000The best that we have are the numbers from these trials.
00:12:03.000And even Moderna, which had a slightly better effectiveness against prevention against death in their trial, the numbers were still small.
00:13:09.000It's supposed to be the other way around.
00:13:11.000And when you mandate something, this is the really extraordinary part here, is that we're mandating a vaccine where the best data, the randomized double-blind trial shows more people, you're more likely to die if you got the vaccine and if you didn't get the vaccine.
00:13:40.000This is in the Pfizer six-month study that's published in the medical journals.
00:13:45.000There is no doubt that, yes, this happened.
00:13:48.000Now, people could argue and say, well, that's because it was small numbers and it's not statistically significant.
00:13:55.000And they can have all of these hand-waving arguments to dismiss that.
00:13:59.000But you see, you can't go and mandate something where there is no scientific evidence of a death benefit.
00:14:08.000And in fact, when the scientific evidence is showing that it's just the opposite, where it's showing that the scientific evidence shows that it is more likely that you're going to die if you get the vaccine, that's something that nobody should mandate or even consider mandate.
00:14:26.000And this, of course, is why nobody wants to debate any of us because we bring out little inconvenient truths like that.
00:14:34.000And, you know, it's the same thing for masks.
00:14:36.000You know, we have the inconvenient truth that both the randomized studies that were done on masks, both of them that are being relied on by doctors and scientists, both of them showed that the cloth masks and surgical masks did absolutely nothing.
00:14:53.000And so people don't want to talk about that.
00:14:57.000I want to walk through the new information.
00:15:00.000It shows that there's a 40% increase in deaths for young people between 18 and 64.
00:15:05.000You covered that, I believe, in your substack.
00:15:07.000And what could possibly be causing that?
00:15:09.000Well, we're not allowed to talk about it, but we will on this program.
00:15:11.000So, Stephen, there has been a 40% reported increase in deaths for people ages between 18 and 64.
00:15:18.00040%, 10% would be considered catastrophic.
00:15:24.000Well, this was reported by the CEO of an Indiana insurance company, One America.
00:15:33.000And they're a $100 billion company, and they reported a 40% increase.
00:15:40.000And that's it's 12, that's a 12 sigma increase over what they would normally see.
00:15:48.000In other words, the 40% increase did not, what this means is that the increase did not happen by chance.
00:15:56.000Something must have caused that because if it was chance, this it would be an event that wouldn't even occur once in the age of the universe.
00:16:07.000When you get to 12 sigma, it didn't happen by chance.
00:16:10.000So something caused this elevation in deaths.
00:16:16.000And of course, people like me believe that the vaccine is the cause because the CEO of the life insurance company said that it wasn't caused by COVID because the COVID cases were actually going down.
00:16:29.000And these 40% increases were happening in both the third and the fourth quarter.
00:16:35.000And so there are some other evidence that we have.
00:16:38.000I've been interviewing, spending my time interviewing embalmers lately.
00:16:43.000And those people are kind of the end of the line for most people.
00:16:47.000Before they go six feet under, the last person that they see is the embalmer.
00:16:54.000And so it's really interesting to collect data from embalmers.
00:17:00.000And I've talked to a couple of them so far.
00:17:04.000And what they tell me is very troubling.
00:17:10.000And he said about 65% of his cases in January had these very, very odd coagulations of these blood clots in people that he couldn't embalm them because he couldn't get the embalming fluid into these bodies because of the blood clots.
00:17:33.000And he says people can't survive with these blood clots.
00:17:37.000And it explains why people don't survive, why they suddenly just think, you know, they can be talking one minute and they faint over.
00:17:46.000And a lot of times they're dead at that point.
00:17:49.000And it happens completely unexpectedly.
00:17:51.000And so that's why you read about all these people who die unexpectedly at an early age.
00:17:56.000And they all have one thing in common, which is they were relatively recently vaccinated.
00:18:02.000But what's really interesting about these clots, though, and it can explain why there's this massive 40% increase in these death rates.
00:18:13.000And the death rates, by the way, are flat.
00:18:16.000They're very, very constant from year to year.
00:18:18.000They don't change much at all from year to year.
00:18:21.000So to get this 40% rise, something really has to be occurring.
00:18:25.000And so when you look at 65% for one embalmer and another embalmer I talked to of the last 30 cases she did, 93%, this is Anna Foster.
00:18:38.000This is all documented on my Substack.
00:18:40.000You can see the original videos on my channel on Rumble, and you can see the interviews with these embalmers.
00:18:49.000But they're describing blood clots that have never been seen before before the COVID vaccines.
00:18:56.000And I just got off the phone right before this with Kerry Watkins.
00:19:45.000And she's not in any kind of specialized community, but she's seen 93% in the last 30 cases she looked at had these telltale clots.
00:19:56.000And so this is why when you put two and two together, the Occam's razor approach here is that, yeah, the vaccines are causing this.
00:20:05.000Would there be any other explanation, fentanyl overdosing or pent up, you know, being kind of cooped up, deaths of isolation, I suppose, suicide?
00:20:15.000Because that would be the regime's argument, or is that just yeah, of course.
00:20:21.000But the trouble is that these clots have never been seen before in history by anyone.
00:20:30.000Not a single person has observed these clots before.
00:20:32.000So if they're lockups and, you know, any of these things, and what have the lockups happened before, right?
00:20:38.000And how can you explain that locking people up?
00:20:42.000There's no mechanism of action that says, hey, if I lock you in a room, your blood is going to coagulate and you're going to die.
00:21:58.000You would think when 93% in some areas are being killed with these blood clots, you would think that this would be an emergency, that the CDC would be, they would have all hands on deck looking into this.
00:22:18.000Not a single call to these embalmers from the CDC or the FDA or the NIH.
00:24:04.000And there is, of course, there are people at the CDC who are basically just, they don't know any of this.
00:24:12.000They don't see the attempts that were made to communicate with these people.
00:24:16.000They don't know that I offered a million dollars to all of the members of the outside committees of the CDC and FDA, if they would just spend a few hours talking with me, just a million dollars to just to come to the table.
00:25:28.000I think of trying to hold these people accountable.
00:25:33.000What you are diving into, and by the way, I just want to reinforce why I think you're so credible, is you took the vaccine, which I find to be super interesting.
00:25:41.000And so we have like a minute and a half now because I talked a little bit.
00:25:46.000Do you think that there will be justice for some of these people that have actually been kind of criminally involved or at worst or at best negligent?
00:25:56.000I sure hope so, because what's being done is wrong.
00:26:01.000But the way the law works, you know, first of all, they protect themselves.
00:26:05.000You know, if these vaccines were truly safe and effective, then why do we need liability protection?
00:26:11.000I mean, people should ask that question.
00:26:13.000Why do, you know, you're telling us it's safe and effective and nobody's died.
00:26:20.000I mean, the other question people should ask is: hey, how did all of these people, all of a sudden, Robert Malone, Peter McCullough, Chris Martinson, Brett Weinstein, you know, how do all these people all at the same time suddenly decide to go, you know, rogue?
00:26:42.000So sorry to cut you off, but it's like, yeah, they all decide we want to destroy our career and be called the worst thing you could be called, right?
00:26:47.000Which be calling it, be called an anti-vaxxer is up there with being called a racist in today's kind of, you know, world.
00:26:55.000And from Brett Weinstein to Malone, McCullough, to all these people you mentioned, Katagini to Pier Corey, to yourself, it's not like everyone's like, you know, I really think my career needs to be destroyed today, right?
00:27:06.000I mean, that's it doesn't, they did it because they were so compelled by the evidence and the data.
00:27:11.000And they come after us too, which I don't care.
00:27:13.000They write these stories that I'm platforming anti-vax people.
00:27:16.000Like, no, I'm actually just really interested why there's a 40% increase in deaths between for people my age and whether or not the vaccine had anything to do with it.
00:27:26.000So, Steve, I have an unusual question for you.
00:27:28.000And I mean, no offense by asking this, but a lot of people in our audience are probably in your position where they got the vaccine and they regret getting the vaccine.
00:27:36.000Do you worry about potential side effects to yourself?
00:27:40.000And if so, what have you been doing to try to mitigate that?
00:28:51.000You know, there's some speculation that they're bad batches or bad vials of these vaccines.
00:28:59.000And I think I may have lucked out in terms of getting doses of a vaccine which were not harmful, or that I have an immune system which was able to, you know, somehow protect me from these vaccines.
00:29:18.000But the most important thing is to not make the same mistake.
00:29:22.000I definitely regret having been injected twice.
00:29:26.000I will not be injected again with this vaccine or with any other vaccine unless there is proof of safety data.
00:29:34.000And it turns out that these vaccines are not the only unsafe vaccines that the CDC is supposed to assess of the safety of vaccines every few years.
00:29:49.000They admitted that they did it, but they're still not doing it.
00:29:52.000So I'm very skeptical going forward of anything coming out of the CDC because it's all been bad advice.
00:30:04.000When you look at it, it's almost like the best advice to give people.
00:30:09.000And I'm not saying that this will be true in the future, but certainly for COVID, if you had listened to everything that the CDC told you to do and just did the opposite, you would have been much better off.
00:30:25.000They told you that early treatments don't work.
00:30:27.000They told you that ivermectin didn't work.
00:30:33.000They told you, you know, don't do anything until you can't breathe and then check yourself into the hospital.
00:30:42.000They told you that masks work and gave you the false impression that a surgical mask or a cloth mask or even an N95 mask would protect you against COVID.
00:30:54.000And so, you know, you'd go around thinking, yeah, you're protected, when in fact, these interventions do nothing.
00:31:00.000And nobody wants to talk to any of us, any of our scientists about this.
00:31:09.000This has never occurred in the United States where a health authority would actually agree to be challenged by someone who's competent.
00:31:20.000So, anyway, The bottom line is I basically listen to the CDC and I pretty much just, that is a tip off of what not to do.
00:31:31.000These new drugs like Molnopirivir and Paxlovid and so forth is like, hey, if the, right now, if the FDA and the CDC are recommending something, I'm like, boy, I'm like moving in the other direction and I'm doing my own independent research.
00:31:51.000I do that independent research, what I find is that I'm being lied to and I should, in fact, avoid these interventions that the government says is safe and effective.
00:32:03.000And nobody wants to debate me on what the science says or any of my other, the 30 or more scientists that I collaborate with.
00:32:13.000We're going to have to have you back on soon.
00:32:14.000The demand for you, Steve, is amazing.