The Charlie Kirk Show - Critical Election Theory with Dr. James Lindsay and Dr. Michael O'Fallon

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00:00:35.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:08.000 Charlie, tell us, now we're in Phoenix, Arizona, Gilbert, Arizona, right now.

00:01:12.000 Is there anything that's happened in Arizona that maybe seems like a simulacroma simulation of what was real in regards to how the operational things happened with, I don't know, maybe elections or anything?

00:01:27.000 Well, first, honor to be here.

00:01:29.000 I know that I'm at a sovereign nations O'Fallon-Lindsay event when I don't know what the word means when it says the name of the conference.

00:01:38.000 So I have to, I have to, I mean, I have to go back to my Latin, so it's probably like synthetic or artificial.

00:01:44.000 I wasn't that far off, by the way.

00:01:46.000 So not exactly a word I use every day.

00:01:48.000 Anyway, honor to be here, guys.

00:01:50.000 Thank you.

00:01:50.000 I think we'll have some fun.

00:01:52.000 And anything for these two guys, I wanted to make space and time for this.

00:01:56.000 So, yeah, I mean, if the whole premise of, you know, those of us that live here in Arizona, which I'm guessing is almost all of us here, we just lived through something very synthetic and artificial.

00:02:06.000 I'm not saying that there wasn't an election result at every up and down the ballot, which that was the will of the people.

00:02:13.000 But unfortunately, I was naive enough to believe that we still had elections in our country.

00:02:19.000 But we do in some sense.

00:02:21.000 We do where people are still able to fill out pieces of paper.

00:02:25.000 But an election is no longer about the quality of the candidate or the message.

00:02:30.000 It's about a couple of things.

00:02:31.000 Can you raise boatloads of money and just absolutely saturate television?

00:02:34.000 That does matter.

00:02:36.000 How many times did we see Carrie Lake is too extreme for Arizona, Blake Masters too extreme for Arizona? 0.99

00:02:41.000 And then can you put pieces of paper in a box within a 30-day window?

00:02:45.000 And that's the new game.

00:02:47.000 And they call that game democracy.

00:02:49.000 And only one side is playing it.

00:02:51.000 Now, our side has this understandable attachment to the reverence and the importance of going and showing up on Election Day.

00:03:00.000 Okay, I love that.

00:03:01.000 It's a great tradition.

00:03:03.000 It's also no longer the way to win.

00:03:05.000 I'm just going to be very honest.

00:03:07.000 It is mathematically impossible, thanks to Stephen Richer and Bill Gates here in Maricopa County, to facilitate the hundreds of thousands of people that actually want to vote in person on Election Day.

00:03:18.000 You can't do it.

00:03:19.000 And we saw what ended up happening.

00:03:21.000 One out of four machines failed, which then had lines go longer than they needed to go.

00:03:25.000 Anthem had three and a half hour waits.

00:03:27.000 And I mean, one testimony of a poll worker said there were 675 people in line at 7 p.m.

00:03:33.000 And only 125 of them ended up voting.

00:03:36.000 That right there is 500 disenfranchised voters.

00:03:39.000 You couple that with boosted artificial Kerry Lake polls where you think Kerry Lake's going to win by 10 points.

00:03:44.000 You then can convince yourself that it's not the most important thing to do on your schedule.

00:03:49.000 And here we are.

00:03:51.000 And so there is no other word to say it than a tragedy.

00:03:54.000 I'll be very honest.

00:03:56.000 Carrie Lake, I believe, is a once-in-a-generation candidate, and she had so many different forces working against her. 1.00

00:04:01.000 But for me personally, it is a further wake-up call and a time for introspection that what should be an election no longer exists.

00:04:10.000 Katie Hobbs did not debate.

00:04:12.000 She did not have events.

00:04:13.000 Her biggest event, I think, was seven people.

00:04:15.000 She didn't take critical questions from the press.

00:04:17.000 Carrie Lake did multiple events a day. 0.98

00:04:19.000 She met with voters.

00:04:20.000 She took tens of thousands of selfies and photos of people.

00:04:23.000 She got to know people.

00:04:24.000 She ran a better campaign, and you lose.

00:04:26.000 Well, that's because the way we do elections in our country are dead.

00:04:30.000 It's over, and we have to adjust.

00:04:33.000 I have recommendations of what that looks like, including we have to change our behavior.

00:04:37.000 We have to go to in-person election early voting.

00:04:41.000 You will never win Arizona again if you keep on telling people just to keep showing up on election day.

00:04:45.000 It's not going to happen.

00:04:46.000 They're trying to destroy Election Day as we know it in our country.

00:04:50.000 And they're doing a pretty good job of it.

00:04:52.000 Been a rather eventful month and a half here in Arizona.

00:04:55.000 I actually had a cancel on both of them.

00:04:56.000 I feel so bad. 0.97

00:04:57.000 I was supposed to go to Oxford and debate James Lindsay because those morons over there thought he was a liberal or something. 0.99

00:05:02.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:05:02.000 It was super weird. 0.99

00:05:03.000 So they put him on the woke side and me on the non-woke side.

00:05:09.000 And, you know, since it takes two weeks to count ballots here in Maricopa, it was like day 10.

00:05:15.000 And I texted him, I'm like, guys, I can't leave to go to Oxford right now.

00:05:19.000 And so it actually ended up probably being a very good decision for other reasons.

00:05:23.000 But it's just to kind of go, I'll just kind of take a capstone on this.

00:05:27.000 We can have a conversation.

00:05:28.000 I feel as if we are living through a simulation, a synthetic exercise when it comes to our elections.

00:05:35.000 And that's really disappointing.

00:05:37.000 But if it is a game, then I want to win the game.

00:05:41.000 And that's it.

00:05:42.000 We're going to have to figure out how to win the game.

00:05:44.000 And unfortunately, it took a less than desirable midterm election outcome to get us there.

00:05:51.000 And did this in any way, Dr. Lindsay, because you and I have spoken about this quite a bit, and I was trying to explain to people back in 2020 that as much as Donald Trump was having 35,000, 40,000 people showing up at some of these rallies, that he would not win.

00:06:08.000 And it was just a question of it being something that would work towards the operational success of what so many others, even within a Time magazine report that was done just a few months after the election itself.

00:06:18.000 Basically, when you have a top-down, bottom-up, inside-out move that is saying we are going to work together to make sure that we secure the election and keep America safe and make sure that democracy continues, which means something completely different.

00:06:33.000 But Dr. Lindsay had a wonderful way of being able to explain this, and he did so on Twitter as well.

00:06:40.000 You know, what was it?

00:06:41.000 Critical election theory.

00:06:44.000 Critical election theory.

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 You know, systemic election fraud exists and it benefits the whole thing.

00:06:50.000 And if you question it or whatever, you have election fragility.

00:06:53.000 Yada, yada, yada, yada.

00:06:55.000 So I turned the entire idea of critical race theory into critical election theory, turned it upside down, and nobody knew what to do with it.

00:07:02.000 They didn't know if they should call me an election denier.

00:07:06.000 They didn't know what to do with it because for them to criticize what I was saying required them to criticize the logic that they used to do the systemic racism arguments, the cis heteronormativity arguments.

00:07:17.000 And I just had more and more and more fun with it.

00:07:19.000 People would start to say that I was crazy and I made a bunch of plaques with like the exact things I put on Twitter, just the exact same words.

00:07:24.000 And I would just, you know, like memes or whatever.

00:07:26.000 And I just tagged them with the meme and just put it up there to deny that the election benefits those who rig elections or something like that.

00:07:34.000 It was just this crazy to deny election fraud exists is to benefit those who benefit from election fraud.

00:07:42.000 It was all this like twisted circular logic that makes it so that you can't possibly deny whatever it is that you want to have.

00:07:50.000 And this is really what's kind of going on.

00:07:52.000 It's always these weird manipulations of language through critical this or critical that.

00:07:56.000 Like we could say we have critical elections right now if you want to.

00:08:00.000 It's all about stretching the diet, the, what am I looking for?

00:08:05.000 The lexical range, the meanings of words, changing what words mean and changing the shape of how words relate to one another in a really strategic way.

00:08:15.000 So when they need to expand the scope of a definition like elections, it now includes drop boxes for a month.

00:08:21.000 When they need to contract the definition of an election, which means Joe Biden wins, then it contracts to a point in an instant.

00:08:27.000 It's like a funhouse mirror and they get to control when words expand and contract.

00:08:31.000 Mike alluded to the fact that the word democracy is in fact one of these words.

00:08:36.000 You often will hear, it's not 100% of the time, but you will often hear them say, our democracy, not yours, the one they own, their democracy.

00:08:46.000 Sometimes they give it away that way.

00:08:47.000 And it's these little kind of hints.

00:08:49.000 But the range of the what democracy means, a lot of people don't realize it, is it's the will of the people.

00:08:55.000 But if you just conveniently, behind the scenes, redefine what the people mean, like the Chinese Communist Party did, and the people are the people who support the Chinese Communist Party.

00:09:04.000 And like the Soviets did, the people, the ones they represented, are the ones who support the Soviet regime. 0.76

00:09:11.000 Then what you arrive at is the people's democratic republic of, say, Korea or Canada now or whatever you want to call it.

00:09:18.000 You have the people's democracy.

00:09:21.000 The people's democracy is the democracy for the people who qualify as people.

00:09:24.000 And the people who qualify as people are the people who are in the regime or supported by the regime or support the regime.

00:09:32.000 And literally, you have Lenin in 1917 or 18, depends on the version, I guess.

00:09:37.000 He published a book called State and Revolution.

00:09:40.000 And he explains in the fifth chapter exactly this about the word democracy.

00:09:44.000 He says, what we think is democracy, what we have is actually bourgeois democracy.

00:09:48.000 It's this other kind of bad democracy for the rich people.

00:09:52.000 And so what we are instituting, listen to the contradiction, he says, with the dictatorship of the proletariat, with a dictatorship, we're implementing a better democracy.

00:10:01.000 And what does he say that this people's democracy does?

00:10:05.000 It elevates the voices of the true people and it suppresses the voices that we don't want to have heard.

00:10:12.000 And that's exactly the same program as our democracy today.

00:10:15.000 So what we see is we see simulated elections.

00:10:18.000 We see simulated democracy.

00:10:20.000 We see a mockery of what these things really mean.

00:10:24.000 And then we have good, honest, conservative people around the country saying, no, no, no, I'm going to preserve what elections mean.

00:10:31.000 I'm going to preserve what democracy means.

00:10:34.000 I'm going to preserve what our republic was based on. 0.99

00:10:37.000 And it has this unfortunate effect of turning you into a sucker. 0.98

00:10:41.000 So then we hear we're sitting on stage. 0.93

00:10:43.000 Well, do we play their game and validate its premises to win?

00:10:46.000 Or do we reject their game and lose?

00:10:49.000 And we're caught in the pincher of the kind of provocation that they've put forth.

00:10:54.000 So the only way to win is to break the game by one means or another, either by playing it, winning, and then destroying it, or by not playing it and destroying it from the outside one way or another by delegitimizing it.

00:11:05.000 And those are the only options that we have now.

00:11:08.000 Yeah.

00:11:08.000 And to cut, I mean, I hate the word democracy.

00:11:11.000 I've said it for a while.

00:11:12.000 We're not a democracy.

00:11:13.000 We're a republic.

00:11:14.000 It's one of the great word abuses of our time.

00:11:17.000 And there's actually, it's not just a word game.

00:11:20.000 Democracy was actually talked about unfavorably by every architect of the Constitution.

00:11:25.000 Madison, Hamilton, and Jay talked about how democracy is an awful, inevitably failing idea.

00:11:30.000 Plato talked about it at length as well.

00:11:32.000 And this is a thought crime.

00:11:34.000 You're not allowed to say it.

00:11:34.000 I say it on my radio show every day.

00:11:36.000 It drives the media nuts because it is a religious term to them, democracy.

00:11:42.000 You can't ever talk about how democracy is unsustainable.

00:11:45.000 It is.

00:11:46.000 Republics are not unsustainable.

00:11:48.000 Republics can last because republics are intentionally decentralized, have checks and balances.

00:11:54.000 They have a structure that understands human nature.

00:11:57.000 A democracy is basically whoever outnumbers the other person gets as much stuff as they wish, and they could take liberties away from the other person.

00:12:05.000 A republic is a completely different structure of government.

00:12:05.000 Okay.

00:12:08.000 Now, that's just me kind of playing, you know, word semantic games at some sense, but I think it's actually super important.

00:12:15.000 I think James would agree on that.

00:12:16.000 However, so these very same people that lecture us about democracy and that ran nonstop ads for people in Awatuka, Awatuke, South Mountain, Chandler, Mesa.

00:12:25.000 You guys saw the ads.

00:12:26.000 The very same people that did that came in with massive counter lawsuits to prevent voting hours to be extended when there were three to four hour voting limits.

00:12:37.000 As James said, they can compress the window immediately.

00:12:41.000 So they're lecturing about voting access all the time, right?

00:12:45.000 But the moment that all of a sudden white, older Christian conservative voters have to wait three and a half hours and anthem, surprise, Wickenburg, or Queen Creek, they close the polling stations.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, I mean, this is again, the goal here is when you hear democracy, and why one of the reasons democracy is unsustainable is we have this sort of, to invoke Plato, ideal, platonic ideal vision of what it is.

00:13:11.000 Oh, everybody gets to have their voice.

00:13:13.000 We're all going to vote.

00:13:14.000 And there are lots of reasons why that's its own problem.

00:13:16.000 But the game of democracy, where the sausage is really made, is a game of who gets to be enfranchised and who doesn't.

00:13:22.000 So if they can control who actually has the opportunity to vote, who's being enfranchised and disenfranchised from their own nation, that's what Lenin's point about the people was: is that we're going to suppress or disenfranchise the people whose votes we don't want to have count.

00:13:38.000 And so if they can rig the game, then they can control how all of the levers of power get used.

00:13:43.000 And that's ultimately how they hold this up as like a religious object because it sounds so good, it feels so good, and it means something that actually doesn't mean the ideal people have in their head.

00:13:56.000 You have a picture in your mind, they mean something distinctly different than that, and they can go back and forth kind of between those.

00:14:03.000 And it's at their advantage because you don't know they're doing it.

00:14:06.000 And one other thing is, you know, what do you hear all the time?

00:14:09.000 Elon Musk, dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:11.000 Charlie Kirk, dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:13.000 James Lindsay being on Twitter, dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:16.000 Everything in the world is dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:18.000 This is what's called a thought-terminating cliché out of the psychiatric literature analyzing what they did in totalitarian regimes like Maoist China.

00:14:27.000 A thought-terminating cliché.

00:14:29.000 It's a phrase that requires zero thought for somebody to say it.

00:14:34.000 And when you hear it, it scrambles your brain.

00:14:37.000 You don't know what to do.

00:14:39.000 You stop thinking, thought-terminating.

00:14:41.000 So they say, dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:43.000 You have an emotional reaction.

00:14:45.000 That's bad.

00:14:46.000 And whatever point anybody might have been making is gone.

00:14:50.000 Elon Musk, dangerous to our democracy.

00:14:51.000 Better not listen to that guy.

00:14:53.000 Don't even engage his argument.

00:14:54.000 Don't even engage what's happening.

00:14:56.000 That's what the purpose of these phrases are.

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00:15:01.000 Whoops, that's bad.

00:15:02.000 Better stop thinking.

00:15:05.000 That's what this is.

00:15:06.000 It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 0.93

00:15:07.000 Uh-oh, bad.

00:15:08.000 Stop thinking.

00:15:10.000 This is how these games work.

00:15:12.000 And this is how they actually are able to disenfranchise you, real true Americans from your own country.

00:15:18.000 Sorry to steal your line, Charlie.

00:15:20.000 You gave that one to me.

00:15:21.000 No, that's true.

00:15:22.000 I listen to you sometimes.

00:15:23.000 Sometimes.

00:15:24.000 Sometimes.

00:15:24.000 I just bragged on you, actually.

00:15:26.000 I was on his show the other day.

00:15:27.000 And in the commercial breaks, you have to listen to Charlie lecture.

00:15:31.000 That's true.

00:15:32.000 It's like he's got his own brainwashing program happening on if you're invited to his show in the commercial breaks.

00:15:38.000 So I'm listening to him lecture, and I'm actually engaged with what he's talking about.

00:15:40.000 It's really interesting.

00:15:41.000 I was on Allie Stuckey's show yesterday, and I mentioned this actually, where you were talking about how the Bible is a book of distinctions and how what we're seeing is this, you know, what they want to do is control when the distinctions matter and don't matter.

00:15:54.000 They want to have full operational control over that.

00:15:56.000 And this is, I bragged on you anyway for your clarity with the Bible being a book of description or distinctions because reality is a world of distinctions and comprehension is understanding distinctions.

00:16:08.000 And that's what they're trying to obliterate so that they get to control the frame, control the words, control the ideas, and thus control what happens in an election and thus change what elections are and control you.

00:16:21.000 My brainwashing worked with him.

00:16:22.000 So there you go.

00:16:23.000 So before you mentioned the word who is disenfranchised and who is, of course, has that oppression taken off of them in regards to whatever the case may be, or if that is actually something that is real or not real.

00:16:36.000 But is it a question of who, or are we moving past the who and the personal and even what we would understand as someone who is qualified to actually cast a vote?

00:16:46.000 And are we moving more towards understanding who has the most quote votes or ballots?

00:16:50.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is elections are based in ballots.

00:16:53.000 Now, Charlie's dead on when he said a few minutes ago, and if you didn't catch it, you need to hone in on that, where he said it's who can put the most pieces of paper in a box within Arizona, a 30-day window? 0.96

00:17:05.000 Holy crap.

00:17:06.000 It should be like, you know, on election day, however many hour window, but nevertheless, it's that when you have shifted from elections, which are about gaining votes, to quote-unquote elections, which are about gaining ballots, and you have a very efficient, let's not underestimate our foes, very effective, well-oiled ballot collecting machine that knows where to go, where to very quickly, you know, canvas an apartment complex, 0.79

00:17:36.000 a nursing home, or whatever, and just pick up hundreds of those pieces of paper that are among the ones that are actually legitimate that are filled out in a particular way and stuck in a box, you have a very formidable thing.

00:17:48.000 So, what they do in advance of the election is build up a giant sandbag.

00:17:51.000 I understand here in Arizona, there's some weird counting thing.

00:17:54.000 So, then they, by law, that they, I think, put in, and so they find out what the deficit is on election day, and then they have the weird counting period where they find more ballots because ballots are what it's your vote is what casts a ballot, but votes don't matter if all they're counting is ballots.

00:18:12.000 And they separate the election from its essence in that way and turn it into an instrument of their control.

00:18:18.000 Yeah, and that was really well summarized.

00:18:21.000 And it's super depressing, isn't it?

00:18:23.000 Because that is not representative of a will of the people.

00:18:27.000 It's not the intent of the design.

00:18:30.000 And so, there's a here's what here, let's just take a step back.

00:18:33.000 And I've done a lot of thinking about this, especially last couple of weeks.

00:18:36.000 It really, Donald Trump really took them by surprise.

00:18:39.000 Like, I mean, I cannot emphasize that enough.

00:18:42.000 He was the glitch in the matrix, and his legacy is still, we're still living through the anger, the venom, the regret from the left that he ever got into office.

00:18:53.000 Everything you're experiencing is because he was able to sneak up on them in 16.

00:18:58.000 Remember a couple things in 16.

00:19:00.000 They called Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin on election night, all for Donald Trump.

00:19:06.000 That alone, they said, we're never doing that again.

00:19:08.000 If we have an unfavorable outcome, we're going to have to extend the window, right?

00:19:13.000 And so they met, Soros, and all of them met, and Lorene Powell Jobs and Mackenzie Bezos and Reed Hoffman and all of these secular billionaires on the left, they had a big, massive meeting.

00:19:26.000 And they debated, how did we let this happen?

00:19:29.000 And Soros' team won the debate.

00:19:32.000 Soros said it's because you did not focus on democracy.

00:19:36.000 And if you go look to the Open Society Foundation, go back to their annual reports, right, in 2002, and I'm kind of stealing some of Michael's thunder here, but go back 20 years ago, Soros realized that that word was the word that would allow you to have a seat at the table in rooms you otherwise would not, because it's a universalist term, right?

00:19:55.000 You're not talking about liberal or conservative.

00:19:55.000 It's agreeable.

00:19:57.000 You're talking about the things that bring us all together.

00:20:00.000 And so Soros said, look, if we're going to be successful, we are going to have to focus on being the pushers of democracy.

00:20:08.000 And democracy, we're going to say it's under voting rights.

00:20:10.000 We're going to say it's under access.

00:20:12.000 But in reality, it's going to be a community, a Chicago-style community organizing game of chasing ballots using sophisticated technology and putting them in a box while running nonstop ads so we don't get clobbered with older voters or suburban voters.

00:20:28.000 Just a little like two points better here or there so that we can win on the margins.

00:20:32.000 So then you got to fast forward to 2018.

00:20:32.000 Okay.

00:20:35.000 Who was their really weird hero that they just poured money into?

00:20:40.000 Stacey Abrams.

00:20:41.000 Why?

00:20:41.000 All she talked about was voting rights.

00:20:43.000 That was her obsession.

00:20:45.000 And this is why James's work with critical race theory, it all intersects.

00:20:50.000 And that's a very important word on the left, right?

00:20:52.000 How were they able to get this done?

00:20:55.000 Two things, race and COVID.

00:20:59.000 So race, well, black people need to be able to have a 30-day window to vote.

00:21:03.000 So you got to send them all ballots.

00:21:04.000 Stacey Abrams sued.

00:21:06.000 Stacey Abrams sued.

00:21:07.000 Who is her representative of those lawsuits? 1.00

00:21:09.000 Mark Elias from Perkins Cooey.

00:21:12.000 Who's Mark Elias?

00:21:13.000 The original architect of the Russian dossier.

00:21:15.000 He's now the number one most funded person on the left.

00:21:18.000 Remember, this is all because Donald Trump snuck up on them in 16.

00:21:22.000 They thought their pre-existing infrastructure was impenetrable, and this guy shocked the world.

00:21:26.000 And basically, they said to themselves, never again.

00:21:28.000 We don't care the cost.

00:21:29.000 We don't care the unethical nature.

00:21:31.000 We're never going to let this happen again.

00:21:33.000 Because he really threw a boomerang into all, I mean, from Amy Coney Barrett to Kavanaugh to Gorsuch to embassy to Jerusalem to Southern Border.

00:21:42.000 It's just a lot of stuff that they're still working to basically move back.

00:21:47.000 I can't state that enough.

00:21:48.000 So anyway, without going too deep into this, but I think it's interesting, they changed their whole game where they realized candidate quality doesn't matter.

00:21:56.000 Okay. 0.99

00:21:56.000 It doesn't matter if it's, you know, kind of some bumbling idiot, John Fetterman, Katie Hobbs, Joe Biden as an example, right? 0.99

00:22:03.000 We're going to perfect the game. 1.00

00:22:06.000 And the game will be called democracy.

00:22:07.000 And then by coincidence, of course, right?

00:22:09.000 The Washington Post then became democracy dies in darkness at the top of every single Washington funded by Jeff Bezos, right?

00:22:18.000 And so they started to play the game of democracy.

00:22:20.000 And then COVID happened and it just allowed them to go absolutely nuts.

00:22:25.000 And by nuts, everyone gets a mail-in ballot.

00:22:27.000 We're going to relax signature verification, no longer have to vote in person.

00:22:31.000 And unfortunately, too many Republicans allowed it to happen.

00:22:34.000 So we are now living in the extension of what really is a six-year simulation, but it's longer than that.

00:22:40.000 And Soros knew what he was doing.

00:22:42.000 You know, Soros spent $200 million on just on documented money this cycle.

00:22:48.000 $200 million is what he just spent on political money, not to mention Sam Bankman Freed's $40 million of stolen money from FTX he spent on this.

00:22:58.000 By the way, you want to talk about a synthetic thing?

00:22:59.000 He just steals money from people's crypto deposits to go spend on the midterms and hopes he gets away with it.

00:23:06.000 So there's a way to actually defeat this and to unravel this.

00:23:10.000 But James Lindsay said something very beautiful at our pastor summit.

00:23:14.000 So you were exchanging compliments here.

00:23:16.000 He said, it's an old proverb, you cannot fix that which you do not understand.

00:23:21.000 And so I, and if you think you understand it, you probably don't because it goes deeper and it's more complex.

00:23:29.000 But once we as a movement can really, in my personal opinion, the next couple months, understand all the pieces, then I think that we could proceed to actually fixing it.

00:23:38.000 So it was just in November of 2016 that just two weeks later, after the election, that had not gone well for the Democrats, that they had the Democracy Alliance meeting at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Washington, D.C., of which I had a little bird in the room.

00:23:55.000 And that's where basically 2020 was planned out and how the next four years would go.

00:24:00.000 But one of the things that thankfully all of us participated in in wrecking their game was, yes, the use of ideological weapons such as critical race theory and so forth, which nobody knew what they were at the time.

00:24:11.000 But I want to ask this, and I have my understanding of things, but from Charlie's perspective, and then of course from Jane's, why would, and it's not just a question of the Democratic Party.

00:24:25.000 It's also a question of Republicans as well.

00:24:28.000 You, I think I kind of made fun of your governor the last time I was here, that his name kind of reminds, well, it's similar to something that would be a bodily function.

00:24:38.000 But you have your Republican governor here.

00:24:41.000 You have Republicans all over the nation.

00:24:43.000 You have Republicans in Congress.

00:24:44.000 You have Republicans in the Senate that as well are participating with what the Democrats want.

00:24:51.000 You have as well corporate and media sources that are participating.

00:24:55.000 Then you have what used to be known as conservative Christian or conservative religious bodies who are participating to try to hedge things a certain way.

00:25:05.000 And the question that all of you have to ask yourselves, and then I'm going to ask these gentlemen, is why are all of these different pillars of our civilization, different facets of what makes us the United States, why are they all coalescing to make sure that the wrong Republicans don't get in and they're willing to do anything to make sure that that happens?

00:25:28.000 What is it that they're actually working for?

00:25:31.000 I mean, we could start.

00:25:32.000 There's a bajillion things we could say.

00:25:34.000 I mean, what they're working for, we just heard about in Andy's lecture, which is very obviously Ziegret Rieset, which he mispronounced by not saying it in German.

00:25:43.000 Zekeret Rieset for a better future, of course.

00:25:48.000 You have to get very stressed out.

00:25:53.000 And actually, by the way, by the way, and I do want to actually answer the question if I remember it after I do this aside.

00:25:59.000 That's actually very important.

00:26:01.000 I just read a story about Maoist China and where one of the ways that they were able to, and I don't quite understand it because it was written, so I don't know what the phonetics were, but they were mocking this idea of the people.

00:26:13.000 And they came up with two pronunciations of people.

00:26:16.000 And it would be something like people and people or something, I don't know, something.

00:26:20.000 But they came up with a mocking way to say what the government was saying.

00:26:24.000 And that actually broke the spell for lots of people.

00:26:27.000 That kind of mockery actually works.

00:26:30.000 And it reveals the fact that the word's being misused.

00:26:34.000 Like you often, we made fun of Kamala for a while.

00:26:37.000 Freedom.

00:26:38.000 We made fun of that because she said their little story.

00:26:41.000 That stuff works.

00:26:42.000 And so breaking that kind of spell is actually very, very, very important.

00:26:47.000 And now I did forget the question.

00:26:48.000 So we'll let...

00:26:50.000 Oh, the Republicans.

00:26:51.000 What about the Republicans?

00:26:51.000 Yeah.

00:26:53.000 We all say rhino, right?

00:26:54.000 Rhinos, it's the rhinos.

00:26:57.000 No, they're active participants.

00:26:59.000 They're not rhinos.

00:27:00.000 They're not Republicans or just dudes that don't know what's going on.

00:27:03.000 They are not only active participants, they are the central and core participants.

00:27:09.000 Barack Obama passes Obamacare in 2009 or whichever year it was, eight.

00:27:13.000 You know, you guys can correct my history by a year.

00:27:16.000 It was nine.

00:27:17.000 So he passes Obamacare.

00:27:19.000 When did Obamacare become reified in our country when we gave Donald Trump a mandate to get rid of it and Mitch McConnell was like, we tried.

00:27:29.000 When we said, you know what, the people have spoken.

00:27:29.000 Right.

00:27:32.000 You were in power.

00:27:33.000 This is how the American system works.

00:27:35.000 Barack Obama, you were in power.

00:27:36.000 You had the Congress.

00:27:38.000 You made this thing happen.

00:27:39.000 And then the new group came in.

00:27:43.000 And instead of saying, you know what?

00:27:46.000 No, that was a bad idea.

00:27:48.000 We walk it back.

00:27:49.000 They ratified it.

00:27:50.000 So the active players on the Republican side are actually the ones who make real the provocations.

00:27:58.000 by the Democrat side.

00:28:00.000 And that must be understood.

00:28:02.000 And so they're terrified that actually freedom-loving, awake, conscious people are going to be able to step into the positions of power.

00:28:09.000 They're going to be able to call out these games.

00:28:11.000 They're going to be able to break these spells.

00:28:13.000 They're going to get on the floor of Congress and make fun of this, like Lauren Boebert was pretty famous for. 1.00

00:28:19.000 And what did they do to her in her place in Colorado?

00:28:22.000 Man, I'm just, it's delicious how they went on Twitter and mocked her and danced on her grave when they were sure she lost.

00:28:29.000 And then, oops, whoops, that didn't happen.

00:28:33.000 And so that was a little bit of fun there.

00:28:35.000 But the truth is she did stuff like that.

00:28:37.000 They hate her for it.

00:28:40.000 Whatever you think of her otherwise, that's powerful.

00:28:43.000 And they can't stand to let the wrong kind of people get in because there's a game that they're playing.

00:28:48.000 They're in on the game.

00:28:49.000 They are not in on the game like they're going along with it.

00:28:52.000 They are active participants.

00:28:54.000 So the other thing I was going to start with is if you go back to the communist literature, or actually not the communist literature, if you go back to the House Committee on Un-American Activities, which no, that's a Senate.

00:29:04.000 McCarthy's a Senate.

00:29:05.000 No, no, no, it's different.

00:29:06.000 You go back, they're buddies, but if you go back to the House Committee on American Activities in the 50s, they did a bunch of lecture or a bunch of interviews with disaffected leaders from the Communist Party USA, including one, Dr. Bella Dodd.

00:29:19.000 And Dr. Bella Dodd explained a number of things.

00:29:22.000 We've colonized all the good sounding words, you know, da-da-da-da-da.

00:29:25.000 Here's what we call people.

00:29:26.000 We say that they're fascists, so we're the true anti-fascist.

00:29:29.000 And she confesses all of this kind of stuff.

00:29:32.000 But what she also says is we have infiltrators in every party.

00:29:37.000 We have infiltrators in the businesses.

00:29:39.000 We have infiltrators in the Democratic Party.

00:29:41.000 We have infiltrators in the Republican Party.

00:29:43.000 And so when we say rhino, it doesn't catch the scope of the problem.

00:29:48.000 They aren't just rhinos.

00:29:51.000 They aren't just clueless, feckless, good old boys who got into office, which is what they play on their million-dollar TV ads.

00:30:00.000 They are active participants who understand what they're doing and are on the same team as their bipartisan buddies across the aisle who are doing the same game for the same purposes.

00:30:13.000 Yeah, so to expand on that, there's a couple things that I want to talk about when it comes to Republicans and this election.

00:30:21.000 So in a usual world without being outspent the way we were, the Republicans have traditionally been politically successful because we're able to look like the reasonable ones and the Democrats look like the outrageous ones.

00:30:36.000 The incredible mind trick that they were able to do through the media, through social media, and tons of money on television is that our candidates looked like the unreasonable, wacky ones, and they looked like the reasonable ones when it should have been completely inverted, right?

00:30:52.000 And so they actually looked like the more conservative pick.

00:30:56.000 I know that not conservative philosophically, but Katie Hobbs presented herself as the safer pick, like boring, I'm not going to, and they went out of their way to make Carrie Lake seem as if she's outrageous, all the things that she isn't, correct?

00:31:12.000 And that worked.

00:31:13.000 Now, if the voting machines hadn't gone down, I don't think it would have worked, right?

00:31:16.000 But that was part of the plan.

00:31:18.000 They needed to make it close enough.

00:31:20.000 So where does that leave us?

00:31:22.000 We have to understand when we're dealing with Republicans and Republican leaders, there is this yearning to get out of the theater of combat.

00:31:35.000 People are saying, and I hear it all the time, I'm exhausted, I'm fatigued, I'm done.

00:31:42.000 And you probably are, and that means they're going to win 100%.

00:31:47.000 Can I go give those people like a thousand-year stare at some point?

00:31:51.000 You're tired, really?

00:31:53.000 Yeah, no, I hear it all the time, right?

00:31:53.000 Okay.

00:31:54.000 And so I'll tell you two things I've learned in the last week with our national program, and I've learned a lot.

00:31:59.000 The first of which is how fatigued our people are, and that is by design, right?

00:32:04.000 They are going to try to just outlast us and invoke our surrender, okay?

00:32:09.000 And the Republican leaders that are in charge, when I talk to them privately that are more in the vanilla side, because I still have some relationships, less and less, honestly, because of my public commentary.

00:32:21.000 But I ask them and they say, Charlie, I just want to get back to governing.

00:32:26.000 I'm sick and tired of all of this stuff and cultural Marxists at every corner.

00:32:30.000 I want to get back to the legislative process.

00:32:33.000 And so they have a desire for a country that is dead.

00:32:37.000 Like we are in a theater of combat with the American left and there is a single winner.

00:32:42.000 There is no like winner after an election.

00:32:44.000 It's going to be the rest of your life that you have breath in your lungs.

00:32:47.000 You don't like it, then you're lying to yourself.

00:32:50.000 Right, right.

00:32:51.000 And people don't like it.

00:32:52.000 Well, Charlie, what do you mean we're not going to defeat the left?

00:32:54.000 Yeah, it's going to take 70, 80, 90, 100 years, maybe.

00:32:59.000 It's not going to, like, that's it, minimum.

00:33:01.000 And people don't like it.

00:33:02.000 They're like, well, that doesn't sound very good.

00:33:04.000 Well, then I would be lying to you.

00:33:06.000 The second thing I want to say is this, is that so many of these leaders are conflict averse.

00:33:12.000 They just don't like controversy.

00:33:14.000 They don't want to acknowledge and admit the country is captured and taken over.

00:33:18.000 And so they have programmed a prism of which they view everything where they're like, yeah, you know, there's a three-hour wait for voting and anthem.

00:33:25.000 And we lost the governor's race, the attorney general's race, the secretary of state race, and the senate race.

00:33:31.000 But you guys know that we might lower the corporate tax rate in Arizona by 0.25%.

00:33:36.000 And the Chamber of Commerce just gave me an award.

00:33:40.000 And they actually believe it.

00:33:42.000 They really do.

00:33:44.000 And this is why Aristotle was so right, where he said everyone thinks they're doing good.

00:33:49.000 The question is what is actually good?

00:33:52.000 And so these Republicans deep down, they don't think they're doing evil, but they are actively acting in a way that is complicit with the other side.

00:34:01.000 You could call it cowardice.

00:34:02.000 You could call it conflict diverse.

00:34:04.000 You could call it all these different things.

00:34:05.000 But this is why you guys matter so much, is that we do not have the luxury, because we've been enlightened, to give up the fight while we're in the arena.

00:34:13.000 There will be no easy victory.

00:34:15.000 It will be multi-generational, and there will only be one winner.

00:34:19.000 I would want to just kind of give a couple of different thoughts that maybe everybody can consider.

00:34:28.000 Number one, I think in a lot of ways, and I've been tempted to do this podcast, but I've held back for about a year because I just have had so many podcasts removed for things that I've said.

00:34:39.000 And as you know, I'm kind of dry and sciencey.

00:34:42.000 But consider that we're in Vichy America right now.

00:34:48.000 And the second thing would be that while in our normal sense of where we are right now, that it would take 70 to 90 years, in truth, there's another hourglass.

00:35:06.000 And the sands in the hourglass are few.

00:35:09.000 And really we have about seven and a half years because when we talk about net zero and zero this and zero that, zero deaths by automobile accidents, which Pete Butiginch has said, you know, whose father was basically the interpreter of cultural Marxism from Gramsci's works and so forth.

00:35:30.000 But when he says these things, everything is zero, It's because 2030 is year zero.

00:35:39.000 That's what it is.

00:35:41.000 We are in this reset, but we're resetting to 2030.

00:35:46.000 Once we're at 2030, the ratchet has gone so far, you can't pull it back.

00:35:51.000 So in essence, where we would like to think it's a marathon or a long war, oh, it's right now.

00:35:58.000 And I want to challenge, and I've done this many times.

00:36:01.000 I think I even did this at one of Charlie's conferences.

00:36:04.000 When you think about the Republicans that you can count on, right?

00:36:08.000 You think of Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the candidate that I was advising, who is Anna Paulina Luna.

00:36:16.000 She's excellent.

00:36:17.000 And, you know, so you were just with her, I think, over at Maria.

00:36:20.000 She's a turning point grad.

00:36:22.000 We're so thankful for her.

00:36:23.000 And so we're talking about women here. 0.98

00:36:27.000 Men?

00:36:30.000 No, listen to me.

00:36:32.000 You're letting the women, or you're making the women, have to stand up and do your job. 1.00

00:36:38.000 And I mean it.

00:36:39.000 I know we got a small group here right now.

00:36:42.000 This is your moment.

00:36:45.000 This is your moment to stand up and be men the way that God has made you to be.

00:36:52.000 We need to have men running for office. 1.00

00:36:54.000 We need to have men that are supporting the candidates.

00:36:57.000 We need to have men who are stepping up and being men in those situations to save this nation.

00:37:07.000 And the ones that you'll see applauding right now are the women. 1.00

00:37:13.000 And I'm sorry, men, if this convicts you in some way or you think, oh, come on, Mike, you know, it's that football game tonight.

00:37:19.000 You know, or you LARP in a video game or something.

00:37:22.000 Don't you know, Mike, I'm really highly rated in Call of Duty.

00:37:26.000 You know, let's get rid of that.

00:37:28.000 Let's get into real life.

00:37:29.000 I don't think Charlie has time for that kind of thing.

00:37:32.000 I don't think James Lindsey has time for that sort of thing because they understand what's happening right now.

00:37:39.000 There is no other time.

00:37:41.000 I mean, seriously, you just heard Andy's presentation.

00:37:45.000 I know we have a small group in the afternoon right now.

00:37:46.000 We're going to have a larger group this evening.

00:37:48.000 But what you just saw should convict you that something must be done and it must be done now.

00:37:55.000 So I think that's right.

00:37:56.000 I mean, the next seven years will determine the whole ballgame.

00:37:58.000 And so don't misunderstand me is that to get back to the America we like, they're not just going to disappear.

00:38:03.000 There's too much funding, too much energy.

00:38:05.000 And I believe that, you know, victory can happen in spurts and start to see real momentum.

00:38:11.000 And so, but you look, you're exactly right in this.

00:38:13.000 I mean, I talk openly about the absolute crusade on the American male.

00:38:18.000 And people think I just mean young men.

00:38:20.000 No, no, it's all men. 0.99

00:38:22.000 I mean, it's top to bottom of how men have been hyper-feminized from mass media to the archetype of if you think of an average white upper middle class, just to say middle class white male, you think someone that is overweight, stupid, constantly forgetting things, kind of absent-minded, sitting and watching TV. 0.87

00:38:46.000 That has been propagandized, mind-controlled into your brain via Simpsons, Family Guy, Modern Family, all these different psychological operations where in the 1950s and 60s, Leave It to Beaver, all these others were men that wore suits that were in charge of the family that acted in a hero archetype of leading the family, not just kind of sitting around and just like jovily forgetting things here and there. 0.88

00:39:14.000 So I completely agree, and the left knows what they're doing.

00:39:18.000 I mean, testosterone rates are down 75% the last 20 years.

00:39:22.000 The average young man right now has a fraction of the testosterone of his grandfather.

00:39:28.000 That's all intentional.

00:39:29.000 It's intentional by, I think, way too much time on cell phones.

00:39:34.000 Radiation is probably playing a role in this that no one wants to talk about.

00:39:37.000 Diets are terrible.

00:39:38.000 This meatless thing is a total disaster.

00:39:41.000 Young men don't work out with weights anymore the way they used to. 0.96

00:39:44.000 And we wonder why all of a sudden, you know, so many, we have the gayest generation in history. 0.98

00:39:48.000 I know it's controversial to say, I don't care, but we do.

00:39:51.000 One out of four young people identify as gay.

00:39:54.000 That's not sustainable.

00:39:55.000 It just isn't.

00:39:56.000 The species cannot continue.

00:39:58.000 Sorry.

00:39:59.000 It's just good luck trying to figure that one out.

00:40:02.000 And by the way, this is one of the reasons why queer theory is not an innocent thing. 0.85

00:40:08.000 It actually has special, like actual implications of your species.

00:40:13.000 And James is more articulate than I am on that topic.

00:40:16.000 James said in your event in Phoenix last year, what did you say that queer theory was when you were talking to Charlie?

00:40:22.000 One of my favorite things ever.

00:40:23.000 Yeah, queer theory opens the gates to hell is what I think I said. 1.00

00:40:28.000 I may have also said that it came from the mind of Satan or something like this.

00:40:31.000 There's any number of similar things that I would have said.

00:40:35.000 Queer theory is really, I mean, so this is a really funny thing. 0.99

00:40:38.000 We're all like critical race theory, critical, finally, people have stopped inviting me.

00:40:41.000 James, those are critical race theory go. 0.99

00:40:43.000 Let's talk about like, damn it. 0.99

00:40:45.000 I do other stuff. 0.98

00:40:48.000 In literally in January of 2021, so think about that for a minute.

00:40:54.000 That's 23 months ago.

00:40:56.000 That's almost two years ago.

00:40:57.000 I was invited to a conference to give a speech.

00:40:59.000 And the first thing I said is, everybody here is talking about critical race theory.

00:41:02.000 And I'm here to tell you it's no more than 5% of our problem now.

00:41:06.000 And what it was being used, what the thrust of my speech was, is what it's being used to do is set up queer theory.

00:41:12.000 At the time, I didn't know that apparently a lot of the money that was raked in by Black Lives Matter quite illegitimately was being funneled into the projects to forward queer theory projects in the next step of the program.

00:41:22.000 So it was quite literal in the kind of operational sense.

00:41:25.000 But what I did know is that by demonizing people for the color of their skin, which they can't do anything about, you're setting them up to try to find a pathway out of that stress.

00:41:35.000 And the way that you can find a pathway to that stress is, oh, guess what?

00:41:38.000 Yeah, yeah, you were born with a biological sex.

00:41:41.000 We're not going to pay attention to that.

00:41:42.000 It was assigned by a doctor and blah, blah, blah.

00:41:45.000 As a matter of fact, though, there's this other thing that really says who you are called gender identity.

00:41:50.000 And guess what?

00:41:50.000 You can make it up every other hour.

00:41:52.000 It's totally in your head.

00:41:54.000 You can do whatever you want with it.

00:41:55.000 So you offer a pathway.

00:41:57.000 And you can see this.

00:41:59.000 You see the articles that they wrote, the long history of tomboys being racist.

00:42:03.000 So you have these young girls, 12 years old, struggling with puberty, which is not a pleasant process for girls.

00:42:08.000 Lots of identity questions, lots of weird changes, people looking at them differently.

00:42:12.000 Everything's bad.

00:42:14.000 When you're a teenager, you turn 12 and life is bad in virtually every regard.

00:42:20.000 And they're pumping them full of, oh, well, you like to play softball.

00:42:23.000 You like to play soccer.

00:42:25.000 Guess what? 0.96

00:42:26.000 You're probably this thing called Tomboy, but Tomboys are racist. 0.99

00:42:29.000 And, you know, like all white people are racist by systemic racism. 0.95

00:42:33.000 And so they're like, oh, well, I can't be a tomboy. 0.97

00:42:35.000 I guess I could be, they're uncomfortable.

00:42:37.000 And so they're like, I'm non-binary.

00:42:39.000 What's the next article?

00:42:40.000 Non-binary upholds binaries, which is racist.

00:42:43.000 So you're still racist by being non-binary. 0.99

00:42:45.000 And they push and push and push and push and tip you into until you finally commit to being full-on trans, at which point they can put you into a pipeline that does irreversible psychological and physiological harm to you. 0.99

00:43:00.000 This, well, I saw this, you know, over to you.

00:43:02.000 I was talking to Mike back in 2020, even before I think George Floyd.

00:43:06.000 I was like, it was, no, 2019 we were talking.

00:43:08.000 I was like, I'm going to focus on critical race theory first, which is how I got stuck with the brand, because if they go into queer theory, they're going to shoot themselves. 1.00

00:43:17.000 It's just absolutely insane, and people will see it.

00:43:20.000 But then there was this obvious, you know, thought, this is the progression.

00:43:24.000 And critical race theory, I was calling it, do you remember?

00:43:26.000 I gave those talks early in 2020, even saying this is the lockpick to open civilization to the next stages of the program.

00:43:34.000 And queer theory is meant to destabilize your mind. 0.97

00:43:38.000 It's meant to destabilize your sense of identity that all makes you very vulnerable, very moldable.

00:43:44.000 If you, we all think, we all have heard of shell shock, which you're not allowed to say anymore, George Carlin told us you have to call it post-traumatic stress disorder, eight syllables in a hyphen.

00:43:52.000 That was his joke or whatever it was.

00:43:54.000 I didn't count the syllables, so it was maybe one of his other jokes where it was that many.

00:43:58.000 But that actually was studied extensively following World War I at the Tavistock Institute, which we drove right past.

00:44:05.000 It just got wrecked on taking up with queer theory and the trans thing.

00:44:09.000 If you don't know, if you've heard that for the first time in your life, they were studying what's called trauma-based mind control after they realized what was going on with these soldiers.

00:44:17.000 That the trauma, the shell shock that they endured made them vulnerable, helpless, mind of a child.

00:44:23.000 And so that if you can induce enough trauma, trauma-centered care, trauma-centered attention, trauma, trauma, trauma, you hear it all the time, then you can actually induce a almost hypnotic state in somebody.

00:44:33.000 And it's not quite the right word, but a very suggestible state, a very vulnerable state, very childlike state in somebody.

00:44:39.000 And then you can do mind control on them.

00:44:41.000 And this had developed and developed and developed.

00:44:43.000 And it finally, the thing that sprung the trap on them and got them in trouble for it was they were doing it with trans. 0.98

00:44:49.000 But this is exactly, it destabilizes you, your sense of identity.

00:44:52.000 It's psychological trauma for you to get dragged into queer theory to break down solid categories of identity, especially your sexual identity, which at 12, 13 years old starts to matter a lot, whereas like literally yesterday it was gross. 0.70

00:45:07.000 And then it destabilizes families.

00:45:10.000 It destabilizes faith.

00:45:11.000 It destabilizes culture.

00:45:13.000 It destabilizes literally everything they need to break.

00:45:16.000 In fact, it's so powerful at doing so that the Soviets and the Maoists in China experimented with it and were like, nope, too powerful.

00:45:23.000 Back off.

00:45:25.000 And they're pumping this into the schools with literally to the point where you have, you know, they have drag queens in schools presented as a generative opportunity to learn to live queerly and enter alternate modes of kinships. 0.61

00:45:37.000 That's their words for it.

00:45:39.000 And you have these kind of controversy averse Republicans saying, well, the drag queens are kind of fun.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, and I have to say, one of the shining lights are like, thank God, is that Horn won the public instruction race over Hoffman.

00:45:53.000 That's a very important thing.

00:45:55.000 It is.

00:45:56.000 It was barely, though.

00:45:58.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:45:59.000 Hoffman would have brought all this stuff.

00:46:02.000 I mean, total pro LGBT alphabet mafia, the whole deal. 0.98

00:46:07.000 So if I may, to bring it back to what you were saying about the men, though.

00:46:11.000 Hi, men.

00:46:12.000 You're still here.

00:46:13.000 Good to see you. 0.85

00:46:14.000 So it turns out that in a lot of cases, there are actually case studies where when men start getting involved as mentors to young people, the rates of this crap all go down.

00:46:27.000 Things stabilize very, very quickly.

00:46:29.000 Dads volunteering to be involved with student groups at schools or to deal with help at the schools, getting dads or coaches or whatever involved.

00:46:38.000 And of course, what have they done?

00:46:40.000 Systematically brought up.

00:46:42.000 And yes, it's good.

00:46:44.000 I'm not saying that we shouldn't put in prison every single creeper, but they've made sure there are tons of creepers that they can point to.

00:46:50.000 So the Boy Scouts, creeper problem, the churches, creeper problems, youth pastor, creeper problems.

00:46:56.000 You know, they're burning, they're creating this fear in men to get involved, healthy, normal men, to get involved and act as mentors to young people because it's a very stabilizing force.

00:47:07.000 It's a very different energy than the nurturing feminine that's also very healthy in its own other way.

00:47:13.000 But they've systematically made it highly risky.

00:47:17.000 I don't know if I want to volunteer with a youth organization.

00:47:19.000 People might think thoughts about me.

00:47:21.000 And that's actually super important.

00:47:23.000 So taking that space back by banding together and becoming good guys.

00:47:27.000 And if something comes up, making sure you deal with it, you're the ones who call the police on the guy that causes a problem.

00:47:33.000 No, we're not doing that here.

00:47:34.000 And don't let them control that.

00:47:36.000 For me, these are very important things to bring back.

00:47:38.000 Men do need to get back involved. 1.00

00:47:41.000 It's so, so important.

00:47:42.000 It's so, so important.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, so just two thoughts on that.

00:47:46.000 Number one, it's important to have female influences on a developing teenager, but too much female influence from a motherly perspective is a very bad thing. 1.00

00:47:58.000 And I get in a lot of trouble when I say this.

00:48:00.000 I don't care because I'm not running for political office.

00:48:03.000 This is why I believe man and woman marriages are so critical. 1.00

00:48:06.000 If it's too feminine when a child is a teenager, you are, I'm generalizing, but generally the female will play into the sympathy of whatever is going on at that particular moment, okay?

00:48:18.000 And it's the male to come in and say, no, no, no, knock it off.

00:48:22.000 You're not a man.

00:48:23.000 You're not a woman. 1.00

00:48:25.000 And the balance of those two things keeps society afloat.

00:48:28.000 If you go look at lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, and this is a generalization, but I don't care.

00:48:35.000 You want to see the people that are actually driving the children to have their parts chopped off.

00:48:39.000 It is 99% mothers. 0.96

00:48:43.000 99%.

00:48:45.000 No, I'm just being honest.

00:48:46.000 Every lawsuit over custody of a trans kid, the father is the one trying, almost always, there's exceptions, the father is the one that thinks the mom has lost their mind.

00:48:58.000 No, I'm just, and again, these are generalizations.

00:49:00.000 I don't mean to insult anybody, okay?

00:49:02.000 But it's the truth, is that the feminine and the masculine must balance each other out always.

00:49:08.000 Now, we have heard nothing, right, our whole life about the excesses of masculinity, right?

00:49:14.000 They call it toxic masculinity.

00:49:16.000 Too aggressive, too in your face, unable to control oneself.

00:49:20.000 Have we ever heard about toxic femininity? 0.93

00:49:23.000 No.

00:49:23.000 You get in big trouble if you bring it up.

00:49:25.000 Well, I do.

00:49:25.000 I don't care.

00:49:26.000 We all know it exists.

00:49:27.000 No, but of course it exists.

00:49:29.000 We all know.

00:49:32.000 No, and I'm going to get, I'm going to leak this to media matters, but toxic femininity means you are hyper-emotional, you are largely unstable, and you also are, and unfortunately, when evil presents itself, you yield towards trying to appease the evil. 1.00

00:49:51.000 Now, if you're offended by that categorization, I'm sorry.

00:49:54.000 It's just the truth, okay?

00:49:56.000 Now, we know what masculine is.

00:49:59.000 Okay, the masculine would be too aggressive, too in your face, but when they're balanced, you create good people.

00:50:06.000 And that's the most important question for a civilization.

00:50:09.000 Now, I'll give you another example, right?

00:50:10.000 Our whole life, We've been told about the dangers of religious extremism.

00:50:18.000 Have we ever heard about the dangers of secular extremism?

00:50:21.000 No.

00:50:22.000 So we only hear about the extreme portions, which are legitimate on the scale of extreme masculinity and extreme religiosity.

00:50:30.000 Instead, we're living through extreme secularism and extreme femininity. 1.00

00:50:36.000 And because hierarchies just don't disappear and evaporate when you want them to, you actually are going to get a much more dangerous dictator in that kind of a country than even, I think, on the inverse.

00:50:49.000 And so James mentioned something.

00:50:51.000 That's why I think the Bible, I mean, obviously the Bible is the word of God, but it's such an important thing to teach our children, is that the Bible is so clear about the moral need for distinctions.

00:51:03.000 And God was clear about it from the creation of the world, light and dark, night and day, good and evil, man and woman, creation.

00:51:13.000 If you look at distinctions, I believe distinctions are God's fingerprints throughout humanity or throughout creation.

00:51:22.000 You could see it.

00:51:23.000 Everything the left is trying to do is trying to destroy any semblance of a distinction.

00:51:30.000 And you will then go to moral chaos.

00:51:34.000 And the trans movement is a very specific, well-tailored, and James knows the literature better than I do, way of obliterating any semblance of a dimension of distinction. 0.86

00:51:47.000 In fact, they have psychologically manipulated us to a way to believe that distinctions are hate speech.

00:51:58.000 That you are hateful if you believe in distinctions.

00:52:01.000 I'll tell you about the literature if you want.

00:52:03.000 Please.

00:52:03.000 Just a second.

00:52:04.000 You know, there's a concept.

00:52:06.000 It was not written down by Judith Butler.

00:52:09.000 She's kind of the most famous queer theorist. 0.95

00:52:12.000 It was not written down by Judith Butler, but it is from people who were studying directly under her, so much so that it's typically attributed to Judith Butler.

00:52:20.000 And it's actually one of the chief sins of queer theory. 0.97

00:52:23.000 It's what the children who are non-binary or think that they were born in the wrong body or whatever are being taught is going on.

00:52:30.000 It is called, I kid you not, this is a technical term in queer theory, the violence of categorization. 0.53

00:52:36.000 To categorize, to draw a distinction is to do a violence to the people who are being categorized.

00:52:43.000 That's actually literally what they have.

00:52:45.000 Now, when we go back to toxic masculinity and femininity, I don't want to dwell on it and bring it back up, but I want to actually raise a brilliant point that Jordan Peterson raised, which is he was having this dialogue at some point.

00:52:55.000 I'm sure he got dragged for this all over the place.

00:52:58.000 But what he said is, just like Charlie said, we know all about this toxic masculine character.

00:53:04.000 We know what it looks like when masculinity goes too far.

00:53:06.000 Physical violence, aggression, we know these things.

00:53:10.000 We actually, if you, all through history, you know, the nobility or the people who don't act like that, they don't fly off the handle and start punching people when somebody insults them or whatever, unless they're Sam Houston and beat them with a stick.

00:53:20.000 But that's another time, a different story.

00:53:23.000 What Jordan Peterson said is we're in the age of the internet.

00:53:27.000 We have to realize that we're in the age of the internet.

00:53:29.000 What he said is masculine aggression doesn't upload. 0.93

00:53:34.000 What are you going to do? 0.96

00:53:35.000 F you. 0.84

00:53:36.000 Like that's what you say back in masculine aggression online. 0.99

00:53:39.000 Oh yeah, your mom.

00:53:40.000 You know, I know all about that joke.

00:53:42.000 Your mom does too.

00:53:44.000 And so these are the kinds of masculine aggression.

00:53:47.000 They don't upload very well. 0.95

00:53:48.000 Oh yeah, F you, F you too.

00:53:50.000 Okay, see you. 0.63

00:53:51.000 You know, nothing happens.

00:53:53.000 Toxic femininity, Jordan pointed out, Jordan Peterson pointed out, uploads perfectly.

00:53:58.000 It is social aggression.

00:54:00.000 In fact, it's social poison.

00:54:02.000 It's mean girls. 1.00

00:54:03.000 It's mean girls. 1.00

00:54:04.000 It uploads perfectly.

00:54:06.000 And what he didn't add to this, and I always hasten to add this, another thing that uploads perfectly within the realm of aggression is personality disordered or psychopathic aggression.

00:54:16.000 They can pretend to be a guy with a dog avatar and ruin your life online.

00:54:20.000 They can have 50 different accounts with 50 different identities.

00:54:24.000 Do you ever think about having 50 accounts on social media?

00:54:26.000 No, they do.

00:54:27.000 They brag about it.

00:54:29.000 Because that psychopathic need to drive people crazy to do cruel things to undermine their life, a lot of mean girl behavior. 1.00

00:54:36.000 taps into that exact same axis and it uploads extremely efficiently.

00:54:40.000 So toxic masculinity turns out doesn't go into the metaverse, if you will.

00:54:45.000 Well, apparently it did and that was a problem.

00:54:47.000 But the internet is mean girl city and that is so important to understand. 0.99

00:54:52.000 I know this is going to sound so funny and this will get clipped up.

00:54:55.000 If you want to see what toxic femininity is, mean girls is actually an incredibly accurate depiction of the tyranny of toxic femininity. 0.97

00:55:05.000 It's told from a teenage perspective of clicks, gossip, backstamming, untruths, appearance.

00:55:12.000 I mean, that right there is what has now metastasized.

00:55:15.000 Now, I know some of you are like whispering each other's ears, like, what?

00:55:18.000 We're going to go watch Mean Girls tonight?

00:55:19.000 Yes, you are.

00:55:20.000 You're going to go watch Mean Girls, and you're going to learn more about where we are as a country than any other film I can think of.

00:55:25.000 And if you don't want to watch it, just log into Twitter.

00:55:28.000 Yeah, that's the same movie.

00:55:30.000 But by the way, Mean Girls runs our CIA. 1.00

00:55:33.000 It runs our government.

00:55:34.000 That same hyperfemininity.

00:55:37.000 I know that sounds why they have to steal dresses from the airport so they can wear them. 1.00

00:55:42.000 There you go.

00:55:45.000 I do want to say something, but then on the other side of this, where you have right now what's called muscular Christianity kind of making a comeback, which is not necessarily the thing that it pretends to be.

00:55:54.000 That was the socialist movement.

00:55:56.000 Yes, exactly.

00:55:57.000 And that's one of the problems with this is that then men who have responded by just saying, well, now what I will do is I will lift weights and grow my beard and start smoking pipes and so forth.

00:56:09.000 Now I'm a man.

00:56:10.000 As opposed to really one of the things, you know, and I told Jordan this, Jordan Peterson spoke at our first conference back in 2017, before anybody knew who he was.

00:56:20.000 And I told him one of the things that he had said in 2016 is what inspired me to do this and to start this battle, if you will.

00:56:29.000 And that was this.

00:56:31.000 He said, to go and find something to lift that is heavier than you could bear.

00:56:40.000 And that's responsibility.

00:56:43.000 And so it's that concept that that is what really gives you, quote, muscle strength is that responsibility.

00:56:49.000 And that is part of the thing that men are losing.

00:56:52.000 It's not just a question of making sure that you're doing two a days and doing negatives and so forth and making sure that your protein counts are great and that your biceps are now at 20 inches or whatever the case may be.

00:57:02.000 But now it's really about taking responsibility.

00:57:07.000 And so when we look at this, when we're talking about transsexuality, is that that's an easy transition into transhumanism.

00:57:18.000 That's the next step.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, I'll just add, by the way, you're talking about the grow the beard.

00:57:23.000 That's a postmodern image, by the way, of masculinity.

00:57:26.000 It's a way to avoid taking responsibility.

00:57:30.000 This overreactive nonsense is a way to avoid the fact that if you read your Bible, it tells you what it looks like, meekness, which meek isn't bend over. 0.95

00:57:39.000 That's toxic femininity. 1.00

00:57:40.000 Meekness means doing what you're supposed to do when you're supposed to do it and not causing a fuss otherwise.

00:57:46.000 That's what it means.

00:57:47.000 And actually taking responsibility instead of growing the beard and smoking the pipe looks like the guy who took responsibility 140 years ago, kind of maybe.

00:57:58.000 That's pretend.

00:57:59.000 That's pastiche, to use a word that they use a lot in the language.

00:58:03.000 It's a facade of masculinity.

00:58:06.000 This is why I actually called a lot of the rising so-called neo-reactionary movements when they came out a few years ago.

00:58:12.000 I started a couple of years ago.

00:58:13.000 I started calling them postmodern traditionalism, Pomo Trad. 0.99

00:58:16.000 And I called them postmodern traditionalism because they're pretending to be traditional while saying they know it's stupid. 1.00

00:58:23.000 That's fake. 1.00

00:58:24.000 That's not real.

00:58:25.000 That's not taking responsibility.

00:58:27.000 It's not even conservativism.

00:58:29.000 I don't even know exactly what it is.

00:58:30.000 It's adopting the framework of the left.

00:58:32.000 And they all have like crusader motifs and so forth.

00:58:35.000 Oh, of course.

00:58:36.000 On their Twitter handles, right?

00:58:37.000 And then you meet them in real life and they're like five foot six and play Call of Duty all day and they say the war is coming and you say, what are you going to do in the war?

00:58:43.000 And I'm like, they're like, oh, I'm not going to go to war.

00:58:45.000 Of course, I'm going to send memes to stoke the fight.

00:58:47.000 And you think I'm joking and making up a joke, but that's literally something somebody said to me one time who was in one of these crowds.

00:58:55.000 And it's the whole after he told me that he was going to force, convert, or kill me after he used my work to get his agenda done.

00:59:02.000 And I'm just like, what?

00:59:04.000 Like, I'm like the golden beard guy in the meme, all of a sudden, like, dude, I'm not reading all that.

00:59:08.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:59:10.000 No.

00:59:11.000 But that's what it is.

00:59:12.000 It's a pretense in the absence of actually having what real responsibility is.

00:59:20.000 You grow into responsibility.

00:59:21.000 It's a parable of the talents.

00:59:23.000 That's so important for people to focus on and to think about.

00:59:27.000 It seems to me a lot of times that these like, you know, super, understand what I mean when I say this, because I'm trying to figure out a way.

00:59:34.000 These kind of like super macho, you know, projection Christians or whatever. 1.00

00:59:37.000 It's like, I feel like their Bible just has certain pages just cut out.

00:59:41.000 Like parable of talents, just carve that one out of there, get rid of it.

00:59:44.000 You know, Matthew 4, where you don't take, don't take temptations, carve that out, get rid of it.

00:59:49.000 We don't need that.

00:59:50.000 And that's, I feel like they're reading this weird Bible, like the cut out all the important parts that actually talk about growth and development and what it means to be a responsible grown person.

01:00:01.000 And so they grow a beard and get a pipe and wear a waistcoat like on a Tuesday afternoon to go to the grocery store.

01:00:08.000 And it's like, come on, dude.

01:00:12.000 You're going to say something on the transhumanism.

01:00:15.000 Yeah, I mean, on the transhumanism thing, the trans agenda is largely funded by this freak, that billionaire freak from San Francisco, who actually wants to merge man and machine.

01:00:29.000 This is probably the worst work of Elon Musk, even though I think Elon is a really courageous and brave person.

01:00:34.000 And we are all benefiting from his courage, his courage, and his bravery.

01:00:38.000 But I can't remember the person's name, he, she from San Francisco.

01:00:42.000 The stated goal is to merge you with machine.

01:00:45.000 So if you can choose your gender, you could choose your sexuality, you could choose your identity.

01:00:50.000 Well, then you then can merge with some sort of super machine and you could choose your species.

01:00:56.000 And again, this is why I'm so glad this wonderful church is hosting this. 0.52

01:01:01.000 I'll be very honest, this midterm election and beyond even politics, I am so just routinely disappointed at how uninformed, cowardly the American church has become.

01:01:14.000 Look, I mean, Raphael Warnock got a six-year term because Georgia Christians thought that he was going to be a much better voice for them than Walker. 0.55

01:01:24.000 Walker lost the Christian vote in Alpharetta, in Fulton County, in Cobb, in Gwinnett.

01:01:32.000 In all those suburban Atlanta counties, the churches went against Walker.

01:01:36.000 I'm not talking about black churches. 0.68

01:01:37.000 I'm talking about white churches that are run by Andy Stanley. 0.99

01:01:41.000 Yeah, they're woke, but they're also very weak.

01:01:44.000 And Michael knows that better than I do.

01:01:45.000 But, I mean, here you have a deliberate agenda that says we're going to destroy your, you know, who you are as a human being.

01:01:52.000 We are going to no longer have man and woman. 0.99

01:01:56.000 And somehow the church still hasn't been activated and mobilized yet.

01:02:00.000 That's a disappointment, to say the least.

01:02:04.000 So let's land the plane here.

01:02:09.000 Well, think about it, because basically you've had with us in the hour before, you've had two hours worth of chaos talk, right?

01:02:16.000 And a lot of the things that Charlie just referred to, and then Pat Wood tomorrow is going to be doing a presentation that I've heard already on transhumanism.

01:02:25.000 As you know, if you listen to Sovereign Nations, I've been talking about the transhuman move, which that's what this all is.

01:02:31.000 The fourth industrial revolution isn't just making sure that we all go to electricity.

01:02:34.000 It's about changing you.

01:02:37.000 And that's been Klaus Schwab's idea the entire time.

01:02:39.000 But it's not even his.

01:02:41.000 We're going back a long time ago to H.G. Wells and the global brain, UNESCO, the war is happening in the minds of men the whole bit.

01:02:49.000 So we're now in this process of where those that are actually in the seats of power, the top down, are moving us quickly to that 2030 agenda.

01:03:00.000 What can we do now to reverse this?

01:03:04.000 And, you know, from, I mean, Charlie's front line, okay?

01:03:09.000 And so is James.

01:03:11.000 What do you both think?

01:03:12.000 And then we'll close with that.

01:03:13.000 Yeah, I think it's time we start answering this in postmodern terms.

01:03:16.000 And James, you'll know what I mean when I say this.

01:03:18.000 If you have power, use it.

01:03:19.000 If you don't have power, get it.

01:03:21.000 That's it.

01:03:22.000 That's how we win.

01:03:23.000 If you have political power, economic power, societal power, or religious power, you have to start to use it to fight the bad guys.

01:03:30.000 If you do not have power, go find a way to get power, support those that have it.

01:03:34.000 That's all that matters.

01:03:35.000 And Elon Musk is the best example of this.

01:03:38.000 Elon Musk was a multi-billionaire that did not have any power in the public space or the kind of the free speech fight and said, okay, I'm going to reallocate $44 billion and get power.

01:03:47.000 And it's worked.

01:03:48.000 He's back on Twitter because of it.

01:03:50.000 And finally, we're able to reach millions of people.

01:03:52.000 So that's just an example, right?

01:03:53.000 And you might say, well, Charlie, I'm just kind of a local guy here.

01:03:57.000 How am I supposed to get power?

01:03:58.000 How am I supposed to do it?

01:03:59.000 You don't have to have intergalactic power like Elon Musk does, right?

01:04:04.000 It's as simple as school board, church elder, local community, or how about your family, homeschool, mentor.

01:04:11.000 Those things are all things of power.

01:04:13.000 I hate looking at things through power dynamics.

01:04:16.000 I think that long term, that's unsustainable and wrong.

01:04:19.000 But that's really all that matters right now, to be honest.

01:04:22.000 You're in a turf war against people that purely view things through power.

01:04:26.000 And I'm tired of going to these events.

01:04:27.000 They're like, well, you know, we're going to win because our ideas are better.

01:04:29.000 Actually, that's not true.

01:04:31.000 It's not.

01:04:32.000 Okay.

01:04:32.000 I have an eschatological view that I think Jesus wins in the end.

01:04:36.000 I don't know when he's coming.

01:04:37.000 I don't know if it's soon.

01:04:38.000 I don't know if it's next Thursday.

01:04:39.000 Don't let that be an excuse, by the way, for an action or inaction.

01:04:43.000 But from my own personal calculation, every single day I'm thinking, how can I gain more power to be able to defeat these cockroach Marxists every single day, right?

01:04:53.000 How can I use it to defeat them?

01:04:54.000 That's the only currency that matters right now.

01:04:58.000 And to think like, well, Charlie, we're going to win because, you know, we're going to be the ones that are going to take the high road and we're going to be able to exchange better ideas than them.

01:05:10.000 I encourage you to read 20th century history.

01:05:12.000 There was a lot of great people with good ideas that found their way to gulags because they didn't understand that it's the person who actually controls the means of society that ends up actually calling the shots.

01:05:24.000 So we have to use political power if we have it.

01:05:27.000 If you own a business, you control a school, you control a church, you have money, use that, deploy it.

01:05:32.000 George Soros understands this.

01:05:34.000 He actually understands it with more religious zeal and fervor than most Christians.

01:05:38.000 George Soros is worth $22 billion.

01:05:40.000 He's dedicated $21 billion of it to the fight to destroy the West.

01:05:44.000 Show me a Christian, one that has given 99% of their net worth while they're living to fight the left or advance Christianity. 0.98

01:05:53.000 Show me one person.

01:05:54.000 I'm not talking about 5%.

01:05:55.000 He's the most generous human being towards his causes.

01:06:00.000 And he doesn't believe in God.

01:06:04.000 He believes in it more than we do.

01:06:06.000 If you have power, use it.

01:06:07.000 And I think I would say two groups that you would see have done that would be Turning Point USA and Moms for Liberty.

01:06:14.000 Yes.

01:06:14.000 Thank you.

01:06:15.000 I would agree.

01:06:16.000 Those are two organizations, and Moms for Liberty was inspired by the beginning of new discourses.

01:06:21.000 That's why Tiffany and Tina did that. 1.00

01:06:23.000 That's not quite true.

01:06:24.000 I don't want to overstate it.

01:06:24.000 They were doing their own thing very early on.

01:06:28.000 I don't want to take credit for something that was actually their brilliant idea on its own.

01:06:32.000 But they very early on reached out to me.

01:06:35.000 We very early on started sharing ideas.

01:06:37.000 And it's been a wonderful partnership working with them for now, I don't know how long, well, over a year and a half.

01:06:45.000 So I did not inspire them in their creation.

01:06:48.000 They had actually something you should all be doing.

01:06:50.000 I don't want to drag this out, but they started with a program.

01:06:53.000 I'll just tell you about it, and then I'll answer the question or follow off of Charlie, is that they started with a program called Liberty Ladies. 0.96

01:07:00.000 They were former school board members who had, their terms had come up.

01:07:03.000 They left the school board.

01:07:04.000 Turns out Tina Descovich from Moms for Liberty was on the school board of the district where the Marjorie Stowman Douglas shooting happened while it happened.

01:07:14.000 She was on that school board.

01:07:16.000 Talk about a rough ride in your tenure in school board.

01:07:19.000 So they end up leaving the school board, she and Tiffany and a couple of others, and they started to get together weekly as what they call Liberty Ladies.

01:07:28.000 And what they did was they read line by line, word by word, until they actually understood it.

01:07:35.000 Not as a fun exercise, to understand it.

01:07:38.000 The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

01:07:43.000 And the foundation for Moms for Liberty came from them coming together.

01:07:47.000 You guys can create groups and come together on Thursday nights, get tacos.

01:07:51.000 It's the Sonoran.

01:07:52.000 You can get tacos here and read the Bill of Rights.

01:07:56.000 You can do this till you understand them, till you know what our country is made of and what our liberties are.

01:08:00.000 Because this actually ties back to what I wanted to add on to from what Charlie said.

01:08:04.000 I don't disagree.

01:08:05.000 The name of the game right now actually is power.

01:08:08.000 You have to be able to get it.

01:08:09.000 You have to be able to use it.

01:08:10.000 And especially if you're a Christian, you must not lose yourself to it.

01:08:14.000 Go home, double check, make sure your Bible didn't have Matthew 4 carved out of it because maybe it's missing.

01:08:20.000 Think about it.

01:08:20.000 Read it.

01:08:21.000 The temptation to power will corrupt.

01:08:23.000 The access to power will corrupt.

01:08:25.000 I'm going to use a different legendarium.

01:08:27.000 I'm not to insult Christianity.

01:08:29.000 I'm just going to say Tolkien because I always say Tolkien.

01:08:31.000 You put on the ring and it warps your mind.

01:08:34.000 So if you start using power, you need to remember.

01:08:37.000 And what do you need to remember?

01:08:38.000 Well, you're Christians. 0.50

01:08:39.000 Who deserves political authority?

01:08:41.000 Where is political authority?

01:08:42.000 You want to answer that question for me, Charlie?

01:08:44.000 Jesus.

01:08:45.000 God, that's right.

01:08:46.000 If you're a Christian, you believe and you know that the only legitimate authority is God.

01:08:52.000 Right?

01:08:53.000 So who deserves political authority?

01:08:55.000 Those who serve in humility.

01:08:57.000 Nobody else.

01:08:59.000 Which means you keep your head.

01:09:01.000 You don't lose it to the power.

01:09:03.000 You don't become George Soros.

01:09:05.000 You believe as strongly as he does.

01:09:06.000 You commit as strongly as he does, but you don't lose your head.

01:09:10.000 So if you use crappy methods like ballot harvesting programs to get power, you step into office like Kerry Lake, I firmly believe would have done, and you obliterate them on day one.

01:09:21.000 You keep your head.

01:09:23.000 You become a servant like you know you're supposed to be rather than a tyrant, which you know must be cast down.

01:09:31.000 And so if you want to do that, I fully endorse what Charlie said.

01:09:34.000 I don't have anything to add to it except that you must keep your head and you keep your head through service.

01:09:39.000 And you keep your head through service by remembering where legitimate and illegitimate authority is.

01:09:44.000 And for Christians, it's obvious where that is.

01:09:46.000 It's harder for people like me to answer, but we can spend an hour.

01:09:49.000 That's another talk for another day.

01:09:51.000 You must serve with humility.

01:09:54.000 And that's absolutely crucial at the heart of what you do.

01:09:58.000 They always say if you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you and you'll become what you fight.

01:10:02.000 This is how you stop that from happening.

01:10:06.000 It's so important.

01:10:07.000 So get square with your, when we say get based and where the kids are all like, yay, that's what we're talking about.

01:10:13.000 Final, final thing, just an announcement.

01:10:15.000 We have an amazing event.

01:10:16.000 I think James, we have confirmed.

01:10:18.000 He's invited to all of our stuff.

01:10:20.000 America Fest, Phoenix Convention Center, the 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th.

01:10:26.000 That's next Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

01:10:28.000 We have Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfeld, Candace Owens, Kaylee McEnany.

01:10:33.000 Anyone planning on coming?

01:10:34.000 Anyone have a couple tickets?

01:10:35.000 Cool.

01:10:35.000 Great.

01:10:36.000 If you guys want to come, you guys can use promo code Arizona.

01:10:39.000 Gets you guys 50% off.

01:10:40.000 If you can't afford tickets, just talk to Michael or James.

01:10:44.000 We'd be happy to help you guys out.

01:10:45.000 We want everyone to come.

01:10:47.000 Talk to Kathy.

01:10:48.000 Yeah, just talk to Kathy.

01:10:50.000 We don't want cost to be a thing, but if you can afford tickets, it does help cover the overhead and all donations go to, all the proceeds go to Turning Point USA.

01:10:56.000 So we don't want to be cost inhibitive, but it's an expensive event to hold on, to put on.

01:11:01.000 And it's going to be amazing.

01:11:02.000 Biggest speakers in the whole movement.

01:11:04.000 That's just the convention center right down the street, December 17, 18, 19, 20.

01:11:08.000 We're anticipating 10,000 people.

01:11:10.000 I think it's really going to charge you guys up.

01:11:11.000 You're going to learn a lot.

01:11:12.000 It's going to be pretty awesome.

01:11:13.000 So the website is amfest.com.

01:11:17.000 That's amfest.com.

01:11:20.000 And if cost is an issue, just talk and we'll be happy to work with you guys.

01:11:24.000 Final charge for the people before we leave.

01:11:28.000 I mean, what I just said is a final charge I want to give you.

01:11:31.000 Get your head on straight and lead.

01:11:33.000 What that means is figure out how you serve with humility, but also with strength.

01:11:38.000 That's what you have to do.

01:11:39.000 This is the moment.

01:11:40.000 No long speech, no BS.

01:11:42.000 Just do that.

01:11:44.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 I wish I could be here for more of the conference, but I'm running all over the place.

01:11:48.000 I got to leave the state tomorrow and I'll be back.

01:11:50.000 Look, we got to play to win.

01:11:52.000 And we have to, that victory has to be our objective.

01:11:56.000 And one of the reasons why I love Michael and James so much is they truly understand what we're up against.

01:12:01.000 But look, the other side, it seems as if it's overwhelming and they're super sophisticated.

01:12:06.000 That is somewhat true, but I could tell you right now, they're a lot more vulnerable than they lead on.

01:12:12.000 And no matter what the complacent people say or the naysayers say, the remnant of people that just keep on fighting that hold the line, I'm telling you, that's going to be our differentiator.

01:12:24.000 And we got to play to win.

01:12:26.000 We got to get power.

01:12:27.000 And if you have power, we have to use it.

01:12:29.000 We must win.

01:12:30.000 Would you please thank these two gentlemen?

01:12:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:12:37.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:12:40.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:12:41.000 God bless.

01:12:46.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 11, 2022

Critical Election Theory with Dr. James Lindsay and Dr. Michael O'Fallon

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