The Charlie Kirk Show - Crucial Lessons from the 20th Century

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00:00:08.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:09.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:12.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:15.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:18.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:19.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:20.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:22.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:00:27.000 Turning point USA.

00:00:29.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:37.000 That's why we are here.

00:00:41.000 Thank you.

00:00:43.000 Thank you, guys.

00:00:44.000 Thank you.

00:00:45.000 It's great to be back in front of people.

00:00:50.000 I want to first thank Pastor Rob.

00:00:52.000 If America had a thousand Rob McCoy's, we would be in a much better place.

00:00:56.000 I'll tell you that.

00:01:01.000 Pastor Rob is a dear friend, and he stands for truth.

00:01:05.000 It was amazing watching on the live stream over the last couple months, you know, Pastor Rob give these updates.

00:01:12.000 You know, like they're trying, they have the police out here.

00:01:15.000 We're doing that.

00:01:15.000 I was watching some of the news reports of the communion service you guys held on Palm Sunday, which very well might have been like the cleanest room in the history of the planet.

00:01:25.000 And they still found a way to attack Pastor Rob on that.

00:01:28.000 And so Rob has been proven to be one of the few pastors who's willing to engage in the public square, who is willing to have very clear and respectful conversations around what truth actually means and is willing to fight and contest for that truth.

00:01:45.000 And so, Rob, I'm honored to call you my pastor.

00:01:47.000 He's absolutely terrific and tremendous.

00:01:49.000 So I'm honored to be here.

00:01:52.000 It's quite a time in our country.

00:01:54.000 If you like me, you probably feel as if we've gone through 30 years of change in three weeks.

00:02:01.000 And not all that change, in fact, most of it is awfully troubling.

00:02:05.000 We have a new country in our country as of today.

00:02:10.000 I'd like to welcome the 156th country to the United Nations Chaz, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

00:02:18.000 We have people that are losing their positions as commentators and in the public eye for saying things that should be agreeable statements, such as the Sacramento Kings broadcaster, who was fired last week from two of his radio positions for simply saying all lives matter.

00:02:36.000 Gone with the Wind is no longer allowed on HBO Max television, despite it being the first film ever that has awarded an Oscar to a black female actress, first ever, 1930s.

00:02:48.000 We have Legos no longer are going to be making police officers, which is very bizarre.

00:02:57.000 So what we see right now, and I hope today to be able to offer you some clarity on what's happening in the country, some very actionable ways you can do something about it, and then where this is headed if we do nothing.

00:03:11.000 And so I feel with you a sense of angst and unease because I, like you, feel as if we've been on defense for the last couple of weeks.

00:03:21.000 That those of us that believe in truth, we feel like we're outnumbered.

00:03:25.000 We feel as if there's not enough people that are standing with courage and contesting for that truth in the public arena.

00:03:32.000 And there's reasons for this, and I'm going to go through the specific rules and the playbook of the people that wish to sow discord and disharmony and anarchy in our country because their rules are made public, and I think it's imperative that we understand where they're coming from.

00:03:49.000 And I also want to take a more broad picture of root causes.

00:03:53.000 How did we get here?

00:03:54.000 And what can we do to actually fix it?

00:03:56.000 So in the last couple of weeks especially, I have been told by the intelligentsia and the media, by certain pastors and by certain members of the political elite, that I must stop talking at this moment in our history because of nothing that I did, but because of my immutable characteristics.

00:04:17.000 I've been told by media members and other individuals that since I'm a white male, I must sit down and shut up.

00:04:26.000 So I've been speaking louder than ever before.

00:04:29.000 And we're in a place of God today.

00:04:37.000 And one of the things that the Christian ethic teaches us, which is so fundamentally different than any other religion, is that you're made of the image of God.

00:04:47.000 We're all in total need of redemption.

00:04:51.000 And what's also very important is that you as a singular unit, despite what your father or mother or grandfather or grandmother did, you need salvation.

00:05:01.000 Your bloodline can't save you for you.

00:05:04.000 What preceded you is not your destiny.

00:05:07.000 Where you came from is not necessarily your future.

00:05:09.000 Christ disrupted this whole idea of tribalism at once.

00:05:13.000 Galatians 3.28, doesn't matter slave nor Jew nor free person.

00:05:18.000 We're all the same under Christ.

00:05:20.000 So this idea of the sovereignty of the individual, how God made you, your immutable characteristics, must be recognized, must be understood.

00:05:29.000 And also, that you will not be judged by something that happened many generations prior to you.

00:05:37.000 That now if you do something wrong, if you sin against somebody, the sin of racism, then go atone to that person personally and look at them in the eyes.

00:05:46.000 Atone to God.

00:05:47.000 However, this idea that certain individuals, because of the melanin content in their skin, must atone for something that they did not do is, Western society was built against that idea.

00:06:04.000 And what's very important to note is that if we study history carefully in the 20th century, there are a couple big takeaways.

00:06:12.000 There's a couple big lessons.

00:06:14.000 The first lesson of the 20th century, and by the way, we don't teach our students the proper history of the 20th century.

00:06:20.000 We don't.

00:06:21.000 The 20th century was a bloodbath.

00:06:25.000 It was the most murderous century in human history, by far.

00:06:31.000 The most intentional depletion of human beings.

00:06:35.000 And that was only 50 or 60 years ago.

00:06:37.000 In fact, some of those authoritarian regimes still exist to this day from the 20th century.

00:06:43.000 What am I talking about?

00:06:44.000 Mao's China, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Russia.

00:06:49.000 That ideology is still very, very well accepted and well spread.

00:06:53.000 So by no means is this history gone.

00:06:55.000 It's actually today, as I'm giving this speech.

00:06:59.000 But for whatever reason, and I could talk about this separately, we've decided to not focus on this chapter in history, and I believe learn from it correctly so that we can never go that way again.

00:07:12.000 There's three big lessons from the 20th century.

00:07:14.000 This is not an exhaustive list at all.

00:07:16.000 But number one, the promise of utopia is a death sentence.

00:07:21.000 That should be a very easy lesson.

00:07:23.000 That when someone comes and tells you that they can create utopia, which actually means nowhere.

00:07:29.000 You actually look at the root of the word.

00:07:31.000 It actually means it's never going to happen.

00:07:33.000 If they say they're going to create heaven on earth, run the other way.

00:07:37.000 In fact, the founding fathers, what was the brilliance behind the founding fathers, is for the first time they were given a blank sheet of paper.

00:07:46.000 Like, what kind of country do you want to create?

00:07:48.000 And instead of giving themselves ultimate authority and control, they could have created the Washitonian or the Hamiltonian or Jeffersonian ruling class.

00:07:55.000 They could have created themselves to be monarchs of this new place called America.

00:07:59.000 They were one of the first successful military revolutionaries that gave up power.

00:08:04.000 Think about that.

00:08:05.000 In order for Alexander the Great to give up power, he had to die.

00:08:08.000 Napoleon was banished to an island.

00:08:10.000 But for someone to win a war and then give away power, it's very, it's transformational.

00:08:15.000 It's because they studied history and they understood the importance of where rights actually come from.

00:08:21.000 That there is something sovereign and bigger than whatever government that they might create.

00:08:26.000 And so the founders created a system of laws and a system of restriction first and foremost on government.

00:08:37.000 That government will not take your rights away.

00:08:39.000 It's very important.

00:08:41.000 Nowhere in the Constitution does it grant you rights.

00:08:44.000 If you read it carefully and the way it was intended, it doesn't say you shall now speak.

00:08:50.000 It's like, no, no, no, no.

00:08:52.000 Be more specific.

00:08:53.000 It's the government can't prevent you from speaking.

00:08:55.000 It's the presupposition that you could speak naturally.

00:08:59.000 It's the recognition that the government is what we created.

00:09:02.000 The government didn't create us.

00:09:04.000 Very important that the government is not the sovereign, that we, the people, are actually the sovereign.

00:09:08.000 It's such a fundamentally different philosophy than what we're starting to see happen in our country.

00:09:15.000 And so because of this, what we've seen in the 20th century when people were promising utopia, which would never, of course, happen, they said we can create heaven on earth.

00:09:25.000 The Bible teaches us this.

00:09:28.000 You can create something actually pretty similar to hell on earth.

00:09:33.000 You can't create anything close to creating heaven on earth.

00:09:36.000 Very important lesson.

00:09:38.000 That we can actually be so unbelievably brutal to each other.

00:09:42.000 That if you want to see what human beings are capable of, if they just decide moral restraints don't matter, go read the Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solshenitsyn.

00:09:52.000 Go read what Stalin did to tens of millions of innocents.

00:09:58.000 As he said, one murder is a tragedy.

00:10:01.000 A million is a statistic.

00:10:02.000 It's just a rounding error, right?

00:10:07.000 When people promise something like that, my goodness, it should be.

00:10:10.000 And that was the brilliance.

00:10:11.000 The founders, they had the humility to say, this is actually not perfect.

00:10:13.000 That's why you can amend it.

00:10:15.000 That's why you have elections.

00:10:16.000 That's why you can have discourse around it.

00:10:18.000 Because the founders never tried to convince people they were divinely inspired autocrats that were going to get it exactly right.

00:10:26.000 They said, this is going to be pretty good unless you screw it up.

00:10:31.000 A republic if you can keep it, right?

00:10:34.000 Lesson number two of the 20th century.

00:10:37.000 Mobilizing resentments is guaranteed conflict.

00:10:42.000 So some resentments are legitimate.

00:10:45.000 Others are not.

00:10:46.000 But the mobilization of them towards the oppressor-oppressed conflict or paradigm is guaranteed to end poorly, guaranteed.

00:10:55.000 For example, mobilizing the Bolsheviks versus the Mensheviks in the Russian Revolution, mobilizing Mao's conquest of China.

00:11:04.000 And I talk to so many students on universities, and they can't tell me what the cultural revolution was in Mao's China.

00:11:11.000 One of the most murderous, disastrous moments in human history just conveniently disappeared from our history books. 0.62

00:11:17.000 And that regime still exists to this day.

00:11:21.000 And let's just say we've experienced the deceitfulness and the byproduct of what a godless regime can do here and the way they handled this recent outbreak.

00:11:32.000 When you mobilize resentments, you immediately get into a competition of who is more, who deserves the product of the award more.

00:11:43.000 Like, no, I'm actually the most oppressed human being.

00:11:46.000 I deserve it.

00:11:46.000 It's almost like this oppression Olympics that is created.

00:11:51.000 Western society was never built around that.

00:11:53.000 In fact, it recognizes that every human being has a specific amount of struggle or has more struggle than others.

00:12:00.000 But instead, it is a release from that in the Christian ethic.

00:12:04.000 You're redeemed.

00:12:06.000 You're liberated through Christ.

00:12:08.000 And then you're going to go forth and flourish the best you can, and you're going to fail.

00:12:11.000 And then you're going to need to come back and go through that cycle again.

00:12:14.000 The third lesson of the 20th century, and this is, boy, is this so applicable today.

00:12:20.000 Grouping people on their immutable characteristics is a gateway to disaster.

00:12:27.000 Guaranteed.

00:12:29.000 What do I mean by immutable characteristics?

00:12:30.000 What you cannot change.

00:12:33.000 I think that should be a pretty good lesson from the 20th century is that we should never say that someone's skin color gives them a certain amount of either advantage or makes them better or worse or any of that.

00:12:45.000 Or they have to atone because of that. 0.89

00:12:48.000 That is so unbelievably dangerous and is guaranteed conflict.

00:12:52.000 And we see it happening right now.

00:12:53.000 We see it where individuals based on them, they themselves not doing anything incorrect for the specific thing that they're being criticized of have to apologize or do something to, for example, this idea of white privilege, which is all throughout our schools and all throughout our country.

00:13:14.000 And people have to say, well, you have to atone for that.

00:13:17.000 Well, first of all, if I had to atone for anything, I definitely won't do it to you, okay?

00:13:21.000 So let's just be very clear.

00:13:23.000 I got a God for that and a Savior for that.

00:13:24.000 So let's just be very clear.

00:13:26.000 I don't know what construct you think I have to pay penance to, but I'm not kneeling to your man-made idol or whatever just because you say I've done something wrong.

00:13:37.000 So thank you very little for that. 0.96

00:13:39.000 So secondly, it is the opposite of the Christian ethic. 0.92

00:13:48.000 It is opposite of everything that we believe in as Christians.

00:13:51.000 Remember, we are made new through the blood of Jesus Christ.

00:13:55.000 We are liberated from our sin.

00:13:58.000 So even if you are guilty of that accusation, it sure as heck isn't another human being's business to try to tell you what you have to try to atone for.

00:14:07.000 Secondly, what an unbelievably dangerous, baseless accusation to try to turn people against each other.

00:14:16.000 See, as Dennis Prager says, there's the American Trinity, E pluribus Unum, out of many one.

00:14:21.000 It's on every presidential seal.

00:14:22.000 As the president speaks around the world, he has that presidential seal, that Latin phrase, e pluribus unum.

00:14:27.000 That is the American North Star.

00:14:29.000 That means no matter your skin color, no matter your background, we are one people.

00:14:32.000 There is only one race, the human race, which, by the way, conveniently is considered to be hate speech in the University of California system, and you're not allowed to say that.

00:14:40.000 Saying that there's only one race, the human race.

00:14:42.000 I could do not.

00:14:43.000 It's a real thing.

00:14:44.000 So believing in e pluribus unum, the second part of the American Trinity is in God we trust, that it's on all of our currency, it's in the halls of Congress, that God is greater than government, and that the rights that government is not supposed to take from you come from God.

00:14:59.000 It's a Lockean idea of natural rights.

00:15:01.000 The third idea is liberty.

00:15:02.000 But the one that's most applicable right now is e pluribus unum.

00:15:06.000 The American ideal.

00:15:07.000 And understandably, it was not completely fulfilled from our founding.

00:15:11.000 In fact, they laid this really ambitious goal in the preamble of the Constitution that even the founders themselves were hypocrites in writing some of this.

00:15:22.000 But that doesn't diminish the ideal.

00:15:25.000 See, trying to say, well, the people that wrote that didn't even live up to it.

00:15:29.000 Of course they didn't.

00:15:32.000 Don't throw out the truth in the preamble of the Constitution because of the sins of the founders.

00:15:37.000 Instead, ask yourself, did we ever get to a place where we achieved that?

00:15:42.000 What they won't teach you in history class is in year 1777, one year after the Declaration of Independence was signed, Vermont abolished slavery.

00:15:49.000 Sovereign state abolished slavery.

00:15:51.000 So with inspiration from the founding of our country, states were already starting to rise up to abolish slavery, rising up against an unspeakable evil.

00:16:00.000 And so eventually we fought a civil conflict over it.

00:16:03.000 There was years and decades of discussion.

00:16:06.000 But guess who were the people that were on the side of abolishing this evil?

00:16:09.000 Where was the inspiration from this?

00:16:11.000 It was from the Bible.

00:16:12.000 It was the churches.

00:16:13.000 It was the Christians that said, this is not biblical.

00:16:16.000 We're all made in the image of God.

00:16:18.000 We're all one under his dominion.

00:16:20.000 And this idea of racial hierarchy is evil.

00:16:23.000 Stop grouping people based on their immutable characteristics.

00:16:26.000 And that was the inspiration for the Civil Rights Act and for the idea of allowing people equal under the law, equal rights, not equal outcomes, completely different thing.

00:16:37.000 We could get to that in a second.

00:16:39.000 However, we're now doing the opposite.

00:16:41.000 We are now destroying Martin Luther King's vision, where he said, I care about the content of your character, not the color of your skin.

00:16:48.000 Now, people who know nothing about me are telling me to stop talking because of the color of my skin.

00:16:54.000 That is anti-American.

00:16:56.000 That is anti-Christian. 0.67

00:16:58.000 And that will guarantee to lead us to a very, very, let's just say, conflicted place as a country.

00:17:05.000 So what do we do about it?

00:17:06.000 First of all, more so than any other time I think in American history, truth tellers are being ridiculed and attacked and silenced at a record rate.

00:17:16.000 That's why Rob McCoy and this church is so special to me, because people that stand for truth and fight and contest for truth is so unbelievably important in this country because we have seen people that are in positions of leadership turn their back on the teachings of the fundamental truths of American society.

00:17:42.000 And so I want to get to root causes, but I think it's really important to know how the left operates.

00:17:48.000 And I don't mean the left as this amorphous object.

00:17:51.000 I'll say it, I should be more specific in my language.

00:17:53.000 How the people that wish to sow discord, disharmony, against the teachings of the Bible. 0.62

00:17:58.000 Let me be more specific that way.

00:18:00.000 Because I don't even want to, this is not even about politics today.

00:18:02.000 This is about something much deeper and much more about like red versus blue.

00:18:02.000 It's not.

00:18:06.000 This is about reason versus unreason and right versus wrong, to be perfectly honest with you.

00:18:11.000 And so we must understand that there are people in this country right now that wish to sow disharmony, that actually wish to have people hyper-focus on differences, not on similarities.

00:18:23.000 I am told every single day now that we are a systemically racist country.

00:18:28.000 We are a systemically unracist country.

00:18:30.000 We're actually systemically decent.

00:18:33.000 We're actually a systemically polite, accepting, generous country.

00:18:38.000 We bring in a million immigrants every single year into our country.

00:18:42.000 One million.

00:18:42.000 That's half of all the world's immigrants.

00:18:45.000 If we're such an awful place, why do so many people want to come into this country? 1.00

00:18:48.000 And why do we open that? 1.00

00:18:49.000 Why do we welcome them with open arms every single year? 1.00

00:18:53.000 If we are such an awful country, why is it that we have over 130 languages represented in our country? 1.00

00:18:59.000 And we're generally pretty civil to each other. 0.81

00:19:02.000 Show me any other country that's passed the stress test of this many different groups of people.

00:19:08.000 However, we're told that we must atone for something and we must pay penance for something that you didn't even do.

00:19:16.000 And so I always laugh at this because they tell me this and I say, wait a second, you're talking to pretty much the wrong person about this for a variety of reasons.

00:19:24.000 Let me tell you the main reason.

00:19:26.000 So you're telling me I must pay, apologize for something that my ancestors did or whatever.

00:19:32.000 And they say, yes.

00:19:33.000 I say, okay, well, my uncle, seven generations on my father's side, fought in the American Civil War on the Union side.

00:19:42.000 So my bloodline fought in the American Civil War to try to abolish slavery.

00:19:46.000 A couple generations later, my bloodline in the 1920s was fighting for women's suffrage and black equality in the inner cities.

00:19:53.000 A couple generations later, my bloodline was fighting in the 1960s for the Civil Rights Act.

00:19:56.000 Why were they fighting for all these things?

00:19:58.000 Because I come from a family of Republicans.

00:19:59.000 Therefore, we've always been fighting for equality and liberty and human flourishing my entire life.

00:20:03.000 But, however, so just that is dismissing that the history is much more complicated than they make it seem.

00:20:14.000 That it's literally not black and white.

00:20:16.000 It's not.

00:20:17.000 That even if they were trying to indict an entire race of people, it's actually that there were individuals that rose up and that did pay significant sacrifices for the rights and the progress that we enjoy in our country.

00:20:30.000 However, the other side thrives on demagoguery, thrives on saying something that feels somewhat symbiotic with deeply held emotion, but not rooted in truth or data or science or a deeper belief.

00:20:47.000 And so let's get into this.

00:20:49.000 A lot of you have been made familiar in the last couple years of a book that has been more instrumental to the American left than almost any other book.

00:20:59.000 And it's their playbook. 0.53

00:21:00.000 It's called Rules for Radicals. 0.76

00:21:02.000 You've probably heard of this before.

00:21:03.000 Now, Rules for Radicals is written by Saul Alinsky.

00:21:07.000 Now, mind you, this is not a political book.

00:21:10.000 This is first and foremost a spiritual book and a religious book.

00:21:13.000 How? 0.89

00:21:14.000 The dedication to Rules for Radicals is to Lucifer.

00:21:20.000 The dedication is to Lucifer, the first rebel, the first fallen angel that rebelled against the Almighty.

00:21:27.000 This book was the book that Hillary Clinton wrote her senior thesis for at Wellesley College.

00:21:32.000 This book is what Barack Obama learned from as a Chicago community organizer and mentored under Saul Alinsky.

00:21:39.000 13 rules for radicals.

00:21:41.000 If I ask most members of Congress, they couldn't name two of them.

00:21:44.000 We have the Ten Commandments and the teachings of Christ to teach us how to act and what to do in this world.

00:21:51.000 This is their Ten Commandments.

00:21:53.000 There's 13 of them.

00:21:54.000 Go figure why he chose the number 13, right?

00:21:56.000 So I'm going to go through them.

00:21:58.000 Some I think are more applicable to today, but I think it's going to start to harmonize with some of the confusion you're feeling about what's happening.

00:22:06.000 Number one, power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.

00:22:11.000 Ooh.

00:22:12.000 This should give you comfort.

00:22:13.000 They're not as strong as they make themselves seem.

00:22:16.000 This should give you a lot of confidence that their number one rule is to make them seem like they have more support than they really have.

00:22:22.000 That's number one.

00:22:24.000 It's the appearance that everyone is with them.

00:22:26.000 That the appearance that you are alone.

00:22:29.000 Anyone felt alone in the last couple days, couple weeks, couple months?

00:22:32.000 I know, because you literally were.

00:22:34.000 You were like alone in your home.

00:22:37.000 And boy, did they choose a time to strike in our country when we weren't having moral religious gatherings strike?

00:22:45.000 When we were in a constant state of fear.

00:22:49.000 Everyone's wearing masks like this dehumanization campaign happens, right?

00:22:53.000 What a perfect time to strike.

00:22:56.000 Because you're already feeling lonely and uneasy.

00:22:58.000 You might have lost your job and you're just upset.

00:23:01.000 Perfect, right?

00:23:02.000 Number two, never go outside the expertise of your people.

00:23:06.000 They are violating their own rule a lot of ways here, and I'll get to that in a second.

00:23:10.000 Number three, wherever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.

00:23:15.000 So they're trying to get us in terrain we're not used to playing in.

00:23:19.000 They're trying to go outside of our collective expertise.

00:23:24.000 Very good at this.

00:23:26.000 Republicans and conservatives are woefully unequipped to discuss the history of America.

00:23:33.000 It's true.

00:23:34.000 They are not equipped to talk about first principles or natural rights.

00:23:38.000 So they have taken us off our terrain, and we have these fumbling members of Congress that are trying to say, well, we're not really a racist country, and they can't give three reasons why.

00:23:48.000 And by the way, the even presupposition of trying to defend a negative should be rejected.

00:23:52.000 I'll say, I'm not even going to tell you why we're not racist.

00:23:54.000 I'm going to tell you why we're decent.

00:23:56.000 I'm going to tell you why we're generous.

00:23:58.000 I'm going to tell you why we're the most benevolent, most forward-thinking.

00:24:02.000 Not perfect, but excellent.

00:24:05.000 Totally off our terrain.

00:24:06.000 Perfect at that, right?

00:24:08.000 Number four, boy, are they good at this one?

00:24:10.000 Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

00:24:13.000 This is how they've taken over the church.

00:24:16.000 It's how they're taken over the church.

00:24:18.000 They go to pastors and they say, they put their arm around them and they say, You care about the disadvantaged?

00:24:23.000 Of course I do.

00:24:25.000 You care about the least of these?

00:24:26.000 Absolutely.

00:24:28.000 You care about injustice?

00:24:29.000 Yes.

00:24:30.000 And all those things are true, by the way.

00:24:31.000 Then you must, therefore, care about this.

00:24:34.000 Must.

00:24:35.000 Off your own book of rules.

00:24:36.000 So they go and apply people that have a book of rules, our rules, and they say, well, therefore, you must agree with this.

00:24:44.000 Number five, boy, ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

00:24:50.000 That's a rule.

00:24:52.000 That's one of their guiding principles.

00:24:53.000 Like our guiding principle is turn the other cheek, be decent, forgive other people.

00:24:59.000 They're teaching ridicule as one of their rules.

00:25:05.000 A good tactic is one your people enjoy.

00:25:08.000 Like stealing flat screen TVs from Long Beach or something.

00:25:10.000 I don't know.

00:25:11.000 I mean, that's, you can, or burning down American cities.

00:25:13.000 I guess people find some fulfillment in that.

00:25:16.000 A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag on the purpose.

00:25:20.000 Number eight, this is a good one.

00:25:22.000 Keep the pressure on.

00:25:24.000 Keep the pressure on.

00:25:27.000 Pressure campaign against every single individual they can find.

00:25:30.000 On the Sacramento Kings announcer, on the statues, keep the pressure as if it's unrelenting.

00:25:36.000 Now, there's a philosophy to all this, and one of the reasons why they've done more in the last three weeks than in the last 30 years on some of these issues is for the first time, we, because of things outside of our own power and within our own power, we as moral believing people that just want a good, a decent country and civil government, we have been on defense.

00:25:56.000 You see, when we play offense, all these rules go out the window.

00:26:00.000 When they have to defend their terrain, all of a sudden they're disorganized.

00:26:04.000 There's disunity.

00:26:05.000 And they're not able to keep the pressure on.

00:26:08.000 Number nine, the threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

00:26:14.000 That should give you comfort.

00:26:16.000 You're going to lose your job.

00:26:18.000 You're going to lose all your friends.

00:26:20.000 You're going to be hated.

00:26:22.000 They're admitting to their own people that the threat that you're putting forth is usually actually more terrifying than what you're actually going to be able to do to them.

00:26:29.000 Number 10, it's a little bit of a complicated one, but the major premise for creating tactics is the development of operations that will allow you to maintain constant pressure.

00:26:40.000 So everything that they try to do is to make sure that you feel pressured all the time.

00:26:45.000 Corporate boycotts, constant protests in the streets.

00:26:48.000 This is their rule.

00:26:50.000 If you push a negative hard enough, it will break through as a counterside to a positive for yourself.

00:26:57.000 So for example, abolish the police.

00:27:00.000 Abolish the police.

00:27:02.000 Seems like a negative.

00:27:03.000 It's breaking through on the counterside to now 68% of Americans that believe the police are in significant need of reform and 70% that think that conservatives are woefully unprepared for this because we're off our terrain.

00:27:18.000 We're playing on their turf right now.

00:27:21.000 Number 12, the price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

00:27:26.000 It's a more complicated one, and it's not as applicable today.

00:27:31.000 The 13 is unbelievably applicable.

00:27:34.000 Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

00:27:42.000 The police are the target, have been for the last 50 years of these people, because they are the enforcement of the law.

00:27:49.000 And it's not that they don't like law enforcement, it's they don't like the law, which are standards given to us from the Almighty.

00:27:53.000 So they've always been after the police.

00:27:55.000 They've been since the 1960s, they've been after the police, since the 1200s.

00:27:59.000 The idea of a civil governance is something they've targeted for a while.

00:28:03.000 So they picked the target, they freezed it, and they found a way to personalize it.

00:28:10.000 A human being that did something evil, that did something that no one supports, became the reason why all police should be abolished.

00:28:22.000 Couple that with keeping the pressure on and ridiculing anyone that comes after them.

00:28:27.000 That's their rule.

00:28:28.000 So how do you combat this?

00:28:30.000 Well, we know this, first of all, the number one thing, and this is what makes the Christian experience, the Christian religion, the Christian following, the Christian experience, the Christian ethic, you can feel in it, so different, is that the absolute ultimate thing that matters most to us is truth.

00:28:47.000 Now, it's not that the most important being, Christ, God in human flesh, it's not that he said true things, where most religions will say, Yeah, we have someone that says, no, no, no, no.

00:29:03.000 He was truth, completely different.

00:29:07.000 That's why he's literally called Logos in the book of John.

00:29:10.000 He was the embodiment of all things that are true.

00:29:14.000 And so when you look at the hierarchy of what matters, a commitment to that truth, and Rob said it, whatsoever is true, but the inverse must be equally true.

00:29:26.000 That you should stand up against whatever is not true.

00:29:30.000 Very important.

00:29:31.000 That it is not enough to contest for the positive.

00:29:34.000 You must stand up and call out what is being spread that is not true.

00:29:38.000 And so, for example, there is a massive movement happening in this community, many other communities, pushing forth the most radical elements of society.

00:29:48.000 One of the groups, blacklivesmatter.com, I encourage you to go to their website.

00:29:54.000 I'm quoting: we seek to disrupt the nuclear prescribed Western family. 0.88

00:30:02.000 Okay.

00:30:03.000 We seek to abolish prisons and abolish the police.

00:30:08.000 Wow.

00:30:08.000 Well, that's a little different than I think most people even recognize that they're fighting through.

00:30:13.000 So that, wait, hold on, destroy the family?

00:30:17.000 That's a lot deeper and bigger than reforms around law enforcement.

00:30:22.000 That's a much different type of agenda.

00:30:25.000 So now, truth and all things that are true, from physics to science to mathematics to history, requires us to stand up against these widespread falsehoods.

00:30:37.000 Now, this is where it gets hard.

00:30:41.000 The Bible tells us that there is a guarantee of persecution if you stand for truth.

00:30:45.000 It's not like a maybe.

00:30:50.000 Right?

00:30:51.000 It's not as if you can pass idly by, kind of like one of those drive-through graduations that you guys have been having, right?

00:30:58.000 And be like, stand for truth.

00:31:01.000 Thank you.

00:31:01.000 Bye.

00:31:02.000 Roll up the window and just keep going.

00:31:04.000 Nope.

00:31:05.000 That's not how it works.

00:31:08.000 And I understand every person's in a different walk of life.

00:31:11.000 Every person has a different price to pay.

00:31:14.000 It's all on a different scale.

00:31:16.000 And for me, the most liberating thing for me is that I've been attacked mercilessly for six straight years.

00:31:26.000 That I've been had death threats against me, followed through the streets, kicked out of restaurants, showing up at the office, whatever you met.

00:31:33.000 So at some point, it's almost like, what, are you going to call me bad names in all capital letters now?

00:31:41.000 I mean, it's as if, what else you got, right?

00:31:47.000 And of course they got more and they're going to try to do more.

00:31:49.000 But when you surrender to Christ, which all of us do, what you're also doing is surrendering to truth.

00:31:59.000 And when you surrender, it's not...

00:32:03.000 Ultimate surrender is very, it's a very deep psychological understanding.

00:32:09.000 It's not like the, I believe it, got it.

00:32:14.000 Belief and surrender, there's sometimes a disconnect there, but the ultimate surrender is my job, my house, everything I love might disappear for the pursuit of the truth that I care most about.

00:32:26.000 Now that is, that's hard.

00:32:29.000 It's a hard thing, especially for those of us in Western societies to embrace.

00:32:34.000 It's easier for countries like in Syria, for example, where they have such third world desolute poverty, and they say, what else do we have to lose?

00:32:43.000 That's actually, I don't want to say it's easier.

00:32:45.000 That's not the correct way to word it.

00:32:47.000 But it's different.

00:32:48.000 For us in a Western society, it's like we have a pretty comfortable way of life.

00:32:53.000 We actually have a lot to lose.

00:32:54.000 We have decades of career advancement, decades of relationships, friends, family, capital expenditures, all of it that very well could evaporate and disappear in a moment's notice.

00:33:09.000 And so for me, I do my best to do this every single day, which is they could take it all away from me.

00:33:16.000 Turning point USA, the office, everything that we have, right?

00:33:19.000 Podcast advertisers.

00:33:21.000 But if they take me down, I'll be on my feet, not on my knees.

00:33:25.000 I'll tell you that much.

00:33:33.000 Because for me, nothing could possibly be more important to me than to tell the truth, live the truth, and fight for the truth.

00:33:43.000 Nothing.

00:33:44.000 And all things that are true.

00:33:45.000 So for example, when people say that we are a systemically racist country, I have a moral obligation to stand up against that.

00:33:52.000 I do.

00:33:54.000 Because whatsoever be true.

00:33:56.000 And if we think that we can be quiet on one truth and loud on another truth, I doubt that totally and categorically.

00:34:03.000 That somehow you can call balls on strikes and when you're going to be courageous on what truth and not.

00:34:08.000 That somehow you're going to stand when it gets really, really hard for Christ, but you didn't stand for truth 10 years earlier.

00:34:17.000 Maybe, maybe you're able to turn the truth switch on and off.

00:34:21.000 I can't do that.

00:34:22.000 That's not how I'm wired.

00:34:24.000 And I think it's also really important.

00:34:26.000 I want to talk about this for a second.

00:34:30.000 My biggest form of opposition for the last couple weeks, speaking out the way I have.

00:34:37.000 And there's been a couple of us out there, and this is not an exhaustive list.

00:34:40.000 Of course, Rob McCoy, Candice Owens, has been unbelievable.

00:34:42.000 She's been terrific.

00:34:44.000 Absolutely terrific.

00:34:50.000 And she, of course, was with us at Turning Point USA for a couple years, and we had some wild times.

00:34:56.000 And it was one of the most proud things of my short career to be able to see her flourish and grow into the thermonuclear weapon against the left that she is.

00:35:04.000 Let me put it that way, right? 0.52

00:35:10.000 Incredible.

00:35:12.000 And so Tucker Carlson's been fighting, and they're trying to take his show off now.

00:35:18.000 They're there.

00:35:19.000 They're there.

00:35:20.000 There's not zero.

00:35:21.000 There's a few.

00:35:22.000 It's not zero. 1.00

00:35:24.000 However, the group of people that have been the most hostile towards me, that have been the most cowardly are Christian pastors by far. 0.98

00:35:40.000 And when I say that, I subtract the left. 1.00

00:35:43.000 Forget that.

00:35:45.000 I expect that from them.

00:35:47.000 I'm talking about pastors who approached me at physical events, actual events, when we used to have those things, and said, I love your content.

00:35:58.000 I love what you do.

00:36:00.000 You know, we exchange phone numbers.

00:36:01.000 We text back and forth.

00:36:03.000 They end up sharing and liking my social media posts.

00:36:06.000 And then the country moves in the Overton window.

00:36:09.000 Chaos happens, right?

00:36:10.000 And someone finds out that this individual liked a couple of my social media posts.

00:36:16.000 And so, instead of correcting the record and saying that I'm not a horrible, awful, dangerous person or whatever, goes on stage and apologizes and cries and throws me completely under the bus, right? 0.93

00:36:27.000 Says that I'm racially insensitive and all this garbage, right? 0.98

00:36:31.000 Lies of the left repeated. 0.99

00:36:32.000 Now, it really came full circle when that individual still has not appeased the mob and they're still calling for his firing.

00:36:38.000 That's how it works, right?

00:36:39.000 When you're dealing with a mob, it's not as if persuasion is not exactly the best way to an angry mob.

00:36:47.000 The only way to go up against the mob is to stand firm for truth and to not give them an inch.

00:36:53.000 Not an inch.

00:36:54.000 Not an inch towards the truth.

00:36:55.000 Not an inch towards your livelihood.

00:36:58.000 Because if you think the old expression, you give an inch, I'll take a mile, it's so unbelievably beyond true right now.

00:37:03.000 And so I'm not going to say any names.

00:37:05.000 That's not why I'm here today.

00:37:06.000 And I know we're on the live stream and everyone can look up these stories.

00:37:08.000 However, I've been disappointed and let down, but boy has it been, as Rob calls it, the refiner's fire.

00:37:14.000 And someone, Jack asked me earlier, he said, Charlie, what's one positive that's come out of this?

00:37:19.000 He asked me this backstage.

00:37:20.000 I said, oh, we find out who's really going to fight when this thing comes to a full head.

00:37:24.000 Are you kidding me?

00:37:24.000 Like, we're finding out who to support and who to say, like, you go do your thing where you care about re-election more than the country.

00:37:30.000 Like, go do that.

00:37:31.000 Good luck.

00:37:31.000 You know, have fun cutting corporate taxes or whatever you do, right?

00:37:36.000 Whatever.

00:37:36.000 We're going to go fight for the soul of our country.

00:37:39.000 Like, that's what we're going to go do.

00:37:43.000 That's a positive.

00:37:45.000 Because we thought we had this big, vast group of people, and all of a sudden it's whoop.

00:37:51.000 It's like, okay, that should be reaffirming for all of you because now you can concentrate on the people and the organizations and the individuals that are really going to fight when it matters, which is now.

00:38:05.000 Like, now.

00:38:07.000 And so the Christian pastors that I have been going back and forth with, the ones that even here in Southern California at certain churches, and I'll privately tell you which ones.

00:38:20.000 It's not my place to do it publicly.

00:38:21.000 It's not my style.

00:38:22.000 But that have been going to the Black Lives Matter protests, that have been making the signs and bringing their kids there. 0.78

00:38:28.000 Despite where I say on their website, our goal is to disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family on their website.

00:38:38.000 Don't understand how that is consistent with Christianity.

00:38:42.000 Must have missed the verse where it says, let's destroy families.

00:38:48.000 I mean, that must have been in some sort of extended teaching that I'm not familiar with.

00:38:53.000 The point is this, is that you have a group of people in the Christian community that, and it puzzles me to no doubt, because they say they don't want to offend and they want to build big bridges.

00:39:06.000 And I know some of these guys, and I've been to their sermons, and they go on for like 40 minutes about hell is a real place and eternal damnation.

00:39:15.000 And I'm like, that's probably the most offensive thing you could talk about.

00:39:19.000 Like definitionally, like you're going to burn forever.

00:39:23.000 How could you think of something more offensive than that?

00:39:25.000 And it said they're cool with that.

00:39:27.000 At least some of them are cool with that.

00:39:30.000 But they don't want to talk about something that's happening in real time and taking a stand against it.

00:39:36.000 And there's a lot of reasons for that.

00:39:37.000 And that's not my place.

00:39:38.000 That's Rob's place to more talk about it, to talk about it.

00:39:41.000 But what I think we do have here, though, is the biblical equivalent of Gideon's army.

00:39:46.000 And Rob made me aware of this.

00:39:47.000 And Gideon's army is, he starts with this huge army, and God winnows it down and winnows it down.

00:39:52.000 And you remember, they go to the river, and he says, only the people that drink out of the river with their hands instead of going down will fight.

00:39:58.000 And it gets down to 300 people.

00:40:00.000 300 people against this massive army.

00:40:02.000 And Gideon's army's delivered a victory.

00:40:04.000 Now, why did God do that?

00:40:06.000 Archetypically.

00:40:07.000 He did that because he wanted to make sure there was no question that it was God's victory, not their victory.

00:40:15.000 Unquestionably. 0.61

00:40:22.000 So the church is a new battleground.

00:40:25.000 It always has been, but more so than anything else.

00:40:28.000 The founders anticipated that the church would be the fire guard for liberty and freedom.

00:40:34.000 And so, and what's really interesting is that I actually find so many Christians that are coming to my podcast, coming to what we're doing.

00:40:40.000 We talk about Christianity, how it intersects with the world and organized thinking and civil society.

00:40:45.000 And there's so many Christians that are reaffirming their faith because of what we're doing, that are coming to Christ for the first time, or that they're stronger than ever.

00:40:52.000 And the reason is that when you're only focused on conversion and not discipleship, it actually creates Christians that walk away from the church.

00:41:01.000 They start to be tempted by Eastern religions with the hyper-focus on spirituality and more Eastern focus.

00:41:10.000 And all of a sudden, there's no application beyond the one and a half hour of when they're actually physically in the church.

00:41:16.000 So they're in the church.

00:41:18.000 They do the conversion, which is essential and important.

00:41:20.000 But then by Tuesday, they're being told by their co-workers that if you dare not take a knee, you're the worst person ever.

00:41:28.000 They're being told by their family and friends that if you don't subscribe to 957,000 different genders, you're hateful.

00:41:35.000 And then they go to the same pastor that brought them to Christ.

00:41:38.000 They say, what am I supposed to say about all this?

00:41:40.000 I'm kind of confused.

00:41:41.000 I'm looking for clarity because, you know, when the gospel intersects with the real world, that's where discipleship really comes into play.

00:41:48.000 And most pastors either stay away from it or they give some sort of very, let's just say, questionable answer.

00:41:55.000 Let's just put it.

00:41:55.000 But Rob, and what's the theory, it's like, no, I'm going to tell you exactly how the Bible instructs every way of life.

00:42:02.000 How to marry, how to speak, how to form a government, how to potentially vote.

00:42:06.000 I mean, that's what the gospel is.

00:42:07.000 It's supposed to transcend into every portion of human action and human existence, not just a very specific part of human conversion, of a specific person's conversion.

00:42:18.000 And I think it's important.

00:42:21.000 There's a good expression.

00:42:22.000 If you have a why, you can figure out the how.

00:42:25.000 And our why is the most important why ever: is that we're created by a merciful, omnipotent, omniscient God that is ubiquitous, that loves us, that brought his son, and we know we're guaranteed hardship and challenges and persecution.

00:42:41.000 And that's actually really comforting.

00:42:43.000 I know that sounds counterintuitive, but a lot of human anxiety and nervousness and stress is this story we tell ourselves that we can avoid all persecution.

00:42:57.000 And when you admit that it's going to be pretty, there's going to be a price of admission here that'll beat you up and all that, it actually sets you free.

00:43:06.000 It actually, and then you have comfort in Christ and comfort in the word, and then you're battle ready and ready to fight for that.

00:43:11.000 So the final thing is this, and I want to get for questions.

00:43:13.000 I don't know where Rob went, but and I know I have to be very specific on time. 0.52

00:43:18.000 So I call this woke Christianity on the other side, by the way.

00:43:23.000 If you don't know what woke is, ask a teenager.

00:43:27.000 So Yeah, that's what I want.

00:43:31.000 Okay.

00:43:32.000 So I examine root causes.

00:43:34.000 That's what I do.

00:43:35.000 So I think far too often the church and conservatives are always treating after effects, not root causes.

00:43:43.000 And a root cause for all of this is how we as Christians and decent-minded, reasonable people have completely abdicated our responsibility and involvement in the education of our children.

00:43:57.000 Most specifically, the colleges.

00:44:00.000 If you really look just objectively and strip yourself of all preconceived notions and restraints and look at how we have interacted with higher education for 40 years, it's incredibly illogical.

00:44:15.000 So we tell students that go through high school and work their tail off, and they're under parental and moral observation almost continually, that you must go borrow a bunch of money that you don't have to go study things that don't matter, to go find jobs that don't exist.

00:44:35.000 And it's even worse than that because it would be okay if they just studied a bunch of stuff that doesn't matter.

00:44:41.000 Actually, they study things that make them sow bitter resentment for the very country that they're about to enter into.

00:44:47.000 It's even worse than that.

00:44:48.000 That challenges the idea that there's a God.

00:44:50.000 Where students are the most moldable, where they're the most easily to be converted, they're being taught by persuasive atheists more so than any of the charismatic Christians could possibly imagine.

00:45:04.000 That sow real seeds of doubt, which we know is a weapon of the enemy.

00:45:07.000 We know that.

00:45:09.000 And so if you're asking where these protests and where this is all going to go, it's going to go to college campuses in September.

00:45:17.000 My job.

00:45:20.000 We will have students that unfortunately and tragically, and I hope I'm wrong, that will be hospitalized because of their activism at Turning Point USA.

00:45:29.000 We've seen it before.

00:45:30.000 We've had kids that have been punched in the face.

00:45:33.000 We've had bear spray at high school gatherings.

00:45:35.000 We've had all sorts of firebombing of dormitories.

00:45:38.000 So if you think your price is high, go wear a Make America Great Again hat and go walk through UCLA for an hour.

00:45:46.000 That's what our students have to go through every single day.

00:45:49.000 That's the price of admission for the Turning Point USA kids.

00:45:52.000 And so, and by the way, they embrace it.

00:45:56.000 It's the most amazing thing.

00:45:57.000 They're not victims.

00:45:58.000 They actually aren't parading around asking for special grievances and all that.

00:46:02.000 They know that they will be kicked out of any social clubs.

00:46:04.000 They know the professors will view them differently.

00:46:06.000 They know all that.

00:46:08.000 And that should be the most optimistic thing you take away from it.

00:46:11.000 That there's a rising generation of thousands and thousands and thousands of freedom fighters that are willing, excited, able, and ready to go into the front lines this September and go put all of Western society on their back and they might get a fist in the chin because of it.

00:46:27.000 It's pretty amazing.

00:46:32.000 And so one sentence of truth can dispel 40 years of lies.

00:46:40.000 Never forget that.

00:46:42.000 We had an individual that came to our office recently and many others, and one in particular, which I don't want to say his name in the live stream.

00:46:50.000 I want his permission before I say this publicly, but I'll use the story, which is he confided in me that I said one sentence that made him go from a liberal atheist to a Christian conservative.

00:47:02.000 And I said, wait, wait, wait, one sentence.

00:47:04.000 I said, I talk like 100 hours a week.

00:47:06.000 It's like, come on, you've got to give me more credit than that.

00:47:09.000 He's like, Charlie, you don't understand.

00:47:10.000 And I've had these moments listening to some of the great thinkers and lecturers and pastors where you're following them, and all of a sudden there's like a breakthrough moment, like that one organized thought, you're like, that's it, I got it. 0.82

00:47:21.000 And is a black individual, and I said the following, and it wasn't even, I think, one of the most insightful things I've ever said. 0.99

00:47:28.000 But I said, if America is such an awful place, why does everyone want to come here? 1.00

00:47:32.000 Again, it's okay, it's a pretty good take, right?

00:47:34.000 But for him, it all of a sudden crushed everything he's ever been told negatively about America.

00:47:40.000 He's like, you're right.

00:47:41.000 It's like, if this is such an awful place, shouldn't I be grateful I'm here and all these people are waiting?

00:47:46.000 And it brought him down this hole of finding the Bible and reading the Bible and recommitting his life to Christ.

00:47:52.000 And all this incredible thing, just that one sentence. 1.00

00:47:55.000 He's an activist, like you wouldn't believe a black individual. 1.00

00:47:57.000 And again, I don't want to say his name publicly, and I'll get his permission before we do. 1.00

00:48:02.000 But this specific thing he said was so incredible that I know for certain that they have these ridiculous 13 rules, right?

00:48:11.000 They have all these billions of dollars from all these different places.

00:48:15.000 They need all of that.

00:48:16.000 They need all the trappings.

00:48:17.000 Let them have all that.

00:48:19.000 Because they have the one thing that we don't have.

00:48:21.000 That's what's so cool.

00:48:22.000 Let them have the greatest standing army of mob activists. 1.00

00:48:26.000 Let them have every university on the planet. 0.87

00:48:29.000 And that's not a reason not to fight on it.

00:48:30.000 But basically, it's like, yep, you got all this stuff.

00:48:33.000 The one thing that they'll never find is truth.

00:48:36.000 It's the one thing.

00:48:38.000 And no.

00:48:40.000 And if you said, Charlie, would you rather have the truth and 300 of the best freedom fighters you can imagine?

00:48:47.000 Or all that nonsense?

00:48:48.000 Are you kidding me?

00:48:50.000 Because that's all it takes, is that one word of truth can spread like a wildfire.

00:48:54.000 And it has and it will.

00:48:56.000 And if you think you are alone, they want you to think that.

00:49:00.000 If you have felt like you've been in isolation, that is a tactic, not a reality.

00:49:04.000 That is a hypnotic technique that they use, semi-hypnotic, I should say.

00:49:08.000 If you look into actual social psychology, where they make you feel the way that they program the news, of all these big groups of people, of every corporation, this drumbeat, it's a minuscule of the American population.

00:49:20.000 Because we, as civil-minded people, we're not likely to go pick up a sign and protest.

00:49:24.000 We're actually anti-outrage.

00:49:26.000 We're definitionally anti-boycott.

00:49:29.000 Because we're into building and flourishing.

00:49:32.000 They're into destroying and disrupting.

00:49:34.000 And so it just feels weird for us to do that, right?

00:49:37.000 Like, I have a family, I have a job, I have responsibility.

00:49:40.000 Those people don't have any responsibility.

00:49:42.000 How many people do you think that are doing that go home and have dinner afterwards?

00:49:45.000 What did you do today?

00:49:46.000 Well, I threw a Molotov cocktail at a law enforcement officer and I got a really good deal on that big screen TV at Best Buy.

00:49:56.000 Best deal ever.

00:49:57.000 Of course not.

00:49:58.000 Because we have no responsibility.

00:50:00.000 There is no assumed honesty in your interactions.

00:50:05.000 There's no assumed moral code.

00:50:07.000 It's just you against the world.

00:50:09.000 Go join a mob.

00:50:10.000 It's their place of connection.

00:50:11.000 It's their place of being able to utilize whatever resentment they have.

00:50:15.000 Remember, the mobilization of resentments.

00:50:18.000 Final thing I'll say is this, and we'll do questions, is it's not enough to know the truth.

00:50:27.000 Super important.

00:50:29.000 In fact, it's critical to the second part.

00:50:31.000 You can't do the second part.

00:50:32.000 But knowing the truth and operating in the crypts and not advancing truth, I think actually does a disservice to what you're carrying.

00:50:43.000 I actually think it does a disservice to what you believe and why you believe it.

00:50:49.000 And so that's the second part, is the standing and fighting for truth.

00:50:54.000 And as Christ is the embodiment of that truth, everyone should ask themselves privately, am I willing to lose every earthly thing that has been granted me from God?

00:51:08.000 Because it's not your stuff, it's God's stuff, to fight for truth.

00:51:13.000 And if so, what level of exposure am I willing to have?

00:51:16.000 Now, mind you, there's three types of people, and Dennis Prager talks about this quite often.

00:51:21.000 There's the enemy and the people that do nothing.

00:51:24.000 There's the fighters and the people that help the fighters.

00:51:27.000 So maybe you're not the type of person which is okay to go do what I do and get thrown at and all that crazy stuff.

00:51:33.000 But then help the fighters.

00:51:35.000 Find the fighters.

00:51:36.000 Be the supply lines.

00:51:38.000 Be the medics in the military analogy, right?

00:51:40.000 Be the prayer warriors, all that stuff.

00:51:43.000 Because we've been convinced that somehow there's a disconnect between like it's a spectator sport.

00:51:49.000 Like, you go, Candace Owens, you go get them.

00:51:52.000 Like, no, no, you could be just as much on the team on the court wearing a jersey as much as the person that's doing the absolute most public thing imaginable.

00:52:03.000 And so a specific thing I always say, it's very simple.

00:52:06.000 Spend more on cultural truth or politics than you spend on coffee every single year.

00:52:14.000 That should be a rule, I think, for every civil and decent-minded, reasonable person.

00:52:18.000 Average American spends, on average, $10 a day on coffee, more or less.

00:52:22.000 You look at Starbucks, it's insane.

00:52:24.000 It's probably even more than that, right?

00:52:25.000 So it's more or less $3,000 a year on coffee, okay?

00:52:28.000 So in your hierarchy of beliefs, what matters more?

00:52:32.000 Coffee or a country?

00:52:35.000 Seriously, this is, if coffee matters more, I hope you have lots of energy while they burn everything.

00:52:45.000 However, I'm not saying spend nothing on coffee, just spend more.

00:52:49.000 And whatever that budget is for you.

00:52:50.000 I say that in somewhat jest and silliness, but what I'm saying is this.

00:52:54.000 It's not just financial, but time and treasure and prayer.

00:52:59.000 Prioritize the cultural fight, is really what I'm saying, obviously, right?

00:53:03.000 Because those of us that are fighting need the help.

00:53:06.000 It is the worst I've ever gone through, but I love it.

00:53:09.000 It's guaranteed we're going to be fine.

00:53:12.000 We'll be okay.

00:53:13.000 It's going to be tough.

00:53:13.000 There's going to be a high price of admission for that.

00:53:15.000 But we need the help in a variety of ways.

00:53:17.000 That's why when you give to this church, as of, you know, I'm a member of the church, and so I tithe the best I can to this church because the only church that stands for anything anymore that actually fights.

00:53:33.000 Is this that everyone's called to do their part.

00:53:38.000 And I believe it's what an optimistic opportunity for all of us to be in a moment when the Republic is in crisis.

00:53:46.000 It's a great gift.

00:53:47.000 And we can win, and we will, because we have the one thing they don't have.

00:53:50.000 So let's do some questions.

00:53:51.000 So thanks.

00:54:02.000 That was very good, Charlie.

00:54:06.000 So we have some MAGA doctrine books that are signed by Charlie for the people who ask a question that contains less than 20 words.

00:54:16.000 It's like Twitter.

00:54:18.000 Yeah, if you bloviate, I'm moving on.

00:54:20.000 So, yes.

00:54:24.000 I'll bring the microphone to you.

00:54:25.000 Thanks, Rob.

00:54:27.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:54:28.000 Hi.

00:54:29.000 Oh, do we have to count that?

00:54:31.000 Okay. 0.75

00:54:32.000 There was a very righteous secular Jew by the name of Andrew Breitbart, and his credo was walk into the fire.

00:54:39.000 And every time I watch your speeches, I think of that comment.

00:54:43.000 My quick question is: any thoughts, remembrances of him, or what would you like to say about Andrew?

00:54:50.000 Did you know him?

00:54:51.000 Okay, so it's very interesting.

00:54:53.000 Just to repeat it for those that in here, you're talking about Andrew Breitbart, right?

00:54:57.000 Andrew Breitbart indirectly got me my start in American politics.

00:55:02.000 He passed away and died right there in Brentwood.

00:55:05.000 I could tell you the spot that he died in April 1st of 2012.

00:55:10.000 I was a senior in high school.

00:55:12.000 And interestingly enough, a month later, I wrote my first ever political article on Breitbart.com a month after Andrew Breitbart died.

00:55:19.000 If you did not know Andrew Breitbart, he was a magnanimous American patriot who's one of the most self-deprecating, funny, happy warriors in the history of our country.

00:55:29.000 And his legacy lives on to this day.

00:55:31.000 I mean, he was an absolute American hero.

00:55:34.000 You read his book, Righteous Indignation.

00:55:36.000 He was so correct about everything that's happening now.

00:55:38.000 He predicted it a decade ago.

00:55:39.000 I'll tell you one Andrew Breitbart story, if that's okay.

00:55:42.000 So I can make a clear and convincing argument that Andrew Breitbart is the first person to win a presidential election from the grave.

00:55:42.000 Okay?

00:55:51.000 So here we go.

00:55:53.000 Andrew Breitbart was flipping through his computer in the year of 2011 at 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:56:00.000 Interestingly enough, on a Twitter feed, a picture of Anthony Weiner came public that he didn't want to be tweeted.

00:56:08.000 Andrew Breitbart screenshots and archives because he just happened to be on Twitter at 3 a.m.

00:56:13.000 Anthony Weiner quickly deletes the tweet, but Andrew Breitbart had it saved and archived.

00:56:18.000 Anthony Weiner denies this for hours and almost days and eventually relents, and we all know how that one ends.

00:56:26.000 However, the story doesn't end there.

00:56:27.000 So Anthony Weiner resigns.

00:56:30.000 However, an entire scandal unfolds because more people said, yes, Anthony Weiner is doing some very inappropriate things to me.

00:56:36.000 Now, interestingly enough, Anthony Weiner was formerly married to Huma Abedin.

00:56:41.000 Now, Huma Ahmedine is the best friend of Hillary Clinton and a top advisor of the Clinton family.

00:56:46.000 Fast forward a couple years, past Andrew's death in 2016.

00:56:49.000 The Federal Bureau of Investigation was doing a huge inquiry into Anthony Weiner because of originally that screenshotted tweet and did, let's just say, some not good things that he did.

00:56:59.000 However, when they confiscated his hard drive, they found a lot more than just that.

00:57:03.000 They found emails that Huma Ahmedine was having with an unclassified, unrestricted, let's just say, unregulated server with Hillary Clinton that prompted James Comey, of all people, eight days before the election in 2016, to issue that letter that says she's actually still under investigation.

00:57:21.000 That the Democrats say totally changed the polls and changed the direction and maybe Donald Trump won as a contributing factor that only Andrew Breitbart could win an election five years after he screenshot something on Twitter at 3 a.m.

00:57:34.000 God bless Andrew Breitbart.

00:57:42.000 So the next question was, there's a lot of cities like Thousand Oaks around the country.

00:57:47.000 What are three things that you would tell a community that they need to do in order to be active?

00:57:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I think, again, prioritize your time, your treasure.

00:58:00.000 Everything starts locally, and so it starts in your local community through that sort of communication and all that.

00:58:06.000 Keep attending church.

00:58:07.000 Moral guidance is critical.

00:58:10.000 And so my urging to the secular conservatives, it's so funny.

00:58:15.000 I play both sides.

00:58:16.000 My urging the secular conservatives is to go to church.

00:58:19.000 My urging to churchgoers is go do conservative stuff.

00:58:22.000 It's like I tell them both to do the other thing.

00:58:26.000 And that's the second thing, definitely.

00:58:28.000 The third thing, the most, I shouldn't say the most important thing, that's not correct.

00:58:31.000 One of the most important things is run for school board, get people elected to school board.

00:58:39.000 The disconnect from everyone that says, yes, our schools are awful.

00:58:42.000 They're terrible.

00:58:43.000 And then I'm like, well, who are your school board members?

00:58:45.000 Are you praying for them?

00:58:46.000 Are you communicating with them?

00:58:48.000 Are you running for school board?

00:58:49.000 Are you financially contributing?

00:58:50.000 Are you putting up a sign for the school board?

00:58:52.000 It's like, oh, I don't really do that.

00:58:54.000 Like, that's not my thing.

00:58:55.000 Well, the left through the teacher unions have just absolutely monopolized and dominated school boards for such a long time.

00:59:03.000 And so that's my insistence.

00:59:05.000 And then we need to have a revolution of people running for mayor and city council like Rob did.

00:59:10.000 And he was basically alone.

00:59:11.000 And you guys supported him, but there were so many people that had the knives out for Rob.

00:59:15.000 And he had to resign because he stood for truth.

00:59:17.000 And he's been vindicated and I think validated because of what he stood for.

00:59:21.000 But that's the other thing: we have to take local government a lot more seriously.

00:59:27.000 And then, Charlie, the question was: when someone, what's the simple answer, especially in this day and age with the rhetoric when the term racist is used on a community that, gosh, during T.O. Strong, Officer Healis didn't see color when he went into the borderline, and the white privilege of Blake Dingman didn't exist when he was shot by that gunman.

00:59:53.000 What's this?

00:59:54.000 How do you respond?

00:59:56.000 Just the folks in here labeled with that term racist.

01:00:00.000 I mean, I'm wrongly and baselessly called that every single day.

01:00:04.000 And it's too bad.

01:00:05.000 Let me first comment on this.

01:00:07.000 It's tragic, actually, because that sin does exist.

01:00:10.000 And the more that you use that term, the more it actually dilutes the term and the more it cheapens the real racism in society.

01:00:17.000 You know who actually wants that to be used as cheaply as it is?

01:00:21.000 The actual racists, the actual identitarians.

01:00:24.000 Because then they blend in.

01:00:25.000 Because then they almost as if, oh, there's no difference between someone like you and someone who is a very hateful person, of which they exist, but they are a micro, of a micro, of a subset of the American population, whereas we are a very decent and very accepting country.

01:00:40.000 And so that's the first thing.

01:00:41.000 It saddens me because that word is a legitimate sin and a legitimate prejudice.

01:00:46.000 However, it's not widespread, systemic, or close to being structural.

01:00:51.000 So that's the first thing.

01:00:51.000 And look, I'm going to say this as lovingly as I can, but that's not the worst thing that they can call you or do to you.

01:00:59.000 They're going to say that because they're rooted in untruth.

01:01:02.000 It is a cheap, it is a baseless, and it is a very infuriating accusation to have thrown at you.

01:01:11.000 It is.

01:01:12.000 And every single day, I have people that say that.

01:01:14.000 And I have pastors that reinforce it when they come under fire.

01:01:18.000 And that's just beyond.

01:01:19.000 Can you imagine how frustrating that must be?

01:01:20.000 Someone who once was your friend?

01:01:22.000 But that's a guaranteed level of persecution.

01:01:27.000 When I interviewed, and especially for last night, when I interviewed MAGA Hulk and then Candace Owen, it's racist because if they're calling you a racist, but yet they're speaking to a black American and they're calling them a racist, it's simply their ideology.

01:01:46.000 No, and so this is a very important point. 0.97

01:01:48.000 That this was written by this phenomenally foolish author. 0.98

01:01:56.000 She wrote this book called White Fragility, where she said it's not enough to not be racist. 0.99

01:02:01.000 You have to be pro-like Marxist.

01:02:04.000 And here's the thing: she argued that racism is no, I kid you not, this is what they teach our kids.

01:02:09.000 Racism is no longer about race, it's about power.

01:02:13.000 And so that black people that ascribe to the white agenda are actually just as racist because they're, I kid this is literally what they teach, is that it's actually not about race and all that. 0.97

01:02:24.000 And so that's why they try to invalidate. 0.99

01:02:26.000 But it's so unbelievably and ridiculously foolish to say something like that that I don't think it resonates. 0.97

01:02:32.000 But it takes four years at a university to believe something like that. 0.98

01:02:35.000 I mean, after four years of just being fed that pablum and then tested on the pablum as if your career is going to be judged on your ability to recite the nonsense, it's awfully, awfully dangerous and pernicious.

01:02:50.000 But I do want to say I sympathize with those of you that come under those accusations because it's not a fun or an easy or a desirable position to be in.

01:03:02.000 But it is a commonly used tactic of the left.

01:03:04.000 It's nasty.

01:03:06.000 When you're in the thick of it and you're getting beat up and you get to that place where you have that freedom, how do you get there?

01:03:19.000 Someone was asking, how do you find that sweet spot where the Lord just releases you and the fear dissipates as faith comes?

01:03:26.000 Yeah, I pray that I can stay there.

01:03:26.000 Share with everybody.

01:03:30.000 I know that I believe I've gotten there.

01:03:33.000 But there was a time about two and a half years into this thing, Turning Point USA.

01:03:37.000 I'll never forget it, where I had to make a very conscious decision whether I was going to stand for truth or I was going to try to moderate and kind of be in the middle and be this amorphous whatever that doesn't get any, you know.

01:03:52.000 And it all came to a head at this, when all my high school friends, all the people I grew up with, were aggressively saying, you don't actually believe this stuff, do you?

01:04:01.000 You're this, you're this, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're that.

01:04:04.000 And so at that moment, I said, forest fire, whatever survives, it survives.

01:04:08.000 I'm going to stand for truth.

01:04:10.000 And that's hard.

01:04:12.000 Every person I grew up with will not talk to me.

01:04:14.000 Again, I'm not asking that as a victim.

01:04:17.000 Trust me.

01:04:17.000 It's the best thing that ever happened to me.

01:04:19.000 But, no, seriously.

01:04:20.000 And that should be the lesson for you.

01:04:21.000 It's so unbelievable.

01:04:22.000 Look, I'm going to lose my friends.

01:04:25.000 Same.

01:04:26.000 Okay?

01:04:26.000 So, like, just whatever gets, whatever gets, whatever God wants to purge from your life when the pursuit of ultimate truth and whatsoever be true, that's liberating, I'll tell you.

01:04:37.000 And now I want to be very clear because people sometimes misinterpret what I'm saying.

01:04:41.000 They think that's a license to be provocative or offensive.

01:04:45.000 And look, I say truth, data, science, Newtonian physics that I never thought would be a controversial thing, the classics, all this.

01:04:53.000 I never go out of my way to provoke or to be offensive. 0.97

01:04:57.000 It's not who I am, and it's not Christian. 0.80

01:04:59.000 However, if I say something true and someone is offended by that, that is not my problem. 0.99

01:05:04.000 Nor am I going to stop saying it because they are offended.

01:05:09.000 And so it's a very important point on approaching these conversations, which is you should not in your heart, God knows your heart, seek conflict, seek being offensive.

01:05:20.000 Charlie, share like you did last service about how you get folks, you ask them questions like Jesus did.

01:05:26.000 So look, we can learn from the greatest communicator in the history of the world, which is Christ.

01:05:31.000 I mean, what other person has had more of a communicate, more of dialogue implemented into the modern world than Jesus Christ?

01:05:40.000 No one.

01:05:41.000 I mean, so how did he interact?

01:05:43.000 He asked questions.

01:05:46.000 He was a grand inquisitor.

01:05:48.000 He would challenge people respectfully and lovingly.

01:05:51.000 He would hold court, literally, in a court with the Pharisees and the Sadducees, asking them.

01:05:56.000 But he also, this is very important, if you're ever going to engage it, what was Christ before he was any of that?

01:06:02.000 He knew the law better than anyone that came across him.

01:06:06.000 He knew the scriptures.

01:06:07.000 Now, how do you apply that?

01:06:09.000 Know your stuff.

01:06:10.000 Amen.

01:06:11.000 That you must be studied.

01:06:12.000 You must be understanding the statistics.

01:06:15.000 And for those of you that are looking, like, where do I go?

01:06:17.000 What do I do?

01:06:17.000 There's plenty of resources out there.

01:06:19.000 Podcast I'm doing, Prager University.

01:06:21.000 If you guys are not deep in this sort of teaching, it's more on you because it's all out there, right?

01:06:27.000 And so, but you must know your stuff because the opposition is going to try to trip you up.

01:06:31.000 They're going to say, well, what about this or what about that?

01:06:34.000 And also, Christ teaches us humility.

01:06:37.000 The best definition of humility is not like cowering into a corner and never moving.

01:06:42.000 I think that's, I don't think that's correct. 0.96

01:06:44.000 And the better definition of humility is acknowledging how little you know, how ignorant you actually are.

01:06:50.000 And it's that old expression, which is, I always trip up with this, but it's, I wish I was able to acknowledge how little I knew when I thought I knew it all.

01:07:03.000 Like something of that.

01:07:04.000 And that's essentially part of it.

01:07:06.000 And so, you know, reading in scriptures is the most important thing.

01:07:10.000 There's two questions I'll tie them together since we're already at the bottom of the hour.

01:07:17.000 This one's a little dicey, but I'll do my best.

01:07:22.000 With the tearing down of statues across the country, defacing the World War II memorial, going back, and anyone who has any connection to slavery, even if they don't, as we saw with the Massachusetts black militia, the monument for them in Massachusetts was defaced.

01:07:42.000 And we've watched a quarter, if not half, of the history of the Democratic Party erased from their website.

01:07:52.000 Shouldn't we go back and change the name or demolish the Democratic Party?

01:07:58.000 Yeah, look, I mean, there's two points here.

01:08:02.000 If I were to rank...

01:08:03.000 For all the Democrats, it wasn't my question.

01:08:06.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 Okay.

01:08:07.000 But I do agree with it.

01:08:10.000 If I were to rank every issue that mattered to me, I think like 127 would be Confederate statues, just so we understand, okay? 0.57

01:08:19.000 Unlike the things that get me fired up, like the reasons of why I do what I do, probably 127.

01:08:25.000 Okay, I'll answer this as succinctly as I can.

01:08:28.000 However, I stand firm against the removal of all these statues, every single one of them.

01:08:32.000 Every single one of them.

01:08:33.000 And the reason is this.

01:08:34.000 I'm not defending what they did or any of that, but I understand exactly why they're doing it.

01:08:38.000 This is a cultural revolution tactic to remove our history, to insult an entire portion of American society geographically and culturally.

01:08:46.000 And the history is much more complex than how they describe it.

01:08:49.000 So they're taking down statues of Christopher Columbus.

01:08:51.000 And look, I won't defend everything Christopher Columbus did, but there was a symbology and an archetype behind Christopher Columbus, which is we are going to go forth and create something new, something righteous, and something moral.

01:09:03.000 And he embodied that, the boldness of Christopher Columbus.

01:09:06.000 And I'm not going to defend everything in his life.

01:09:08.000 Winston Churchill is impossible to defend everything he did.

01:09:12.000 In fact, he's a very conflicted historical figure, but he's a hero.

01:09:15.000 In fact, he was probably the greatest man that lived in the 20th century.

01:09:18.000 I will never defend what he did in India. 0.99

01:09:20.000 In fact, it's awfully morally questionable.

01:09:22.000 But I will defend him putting all of Western society and looking true evil in the face and in the eyes when London was under constant bombardment and keeping that all together and pushing forward and eventually literally playing offense.

01:09:34.000 And so this idea that we can overly generalize every figure in history, I think is so lazy, wrong, and sloppy.

01:09:42.000 And the second thing is this, it is a war on the American South.

01:09:45.000 And for those of you that grew up in the North, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

01:09:48.000 I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.

01:09:50.000 You could probably still hear it in some of my pronunciation of words.

01:09:52.000 From a young age, I was taught that anyone, both implicitly and explicitly, I was taught this. 1.00

01:09:57.000 Anyone south of the Mason-Dixon line is a stupid person. 1.00

01:10:01.000 When you make fun of people, it's always the Southern accent. 1.00

01:10:03.000 It's in our culture.

01:10:04.000 It's in our news.

01:10:05.000 And that, you want to talk about stereotyping?

01:10:08.000 That was the stereotyping I was taught in the suburbs of Chicago.

01:10:11.000 Now, this bothers me in a couple ways.

01:10:13.000 Number one, they're American citizens, and it's just awful to engage in any form of stereotyping like that.

01:10:18.000 It's not correct.

01:10:18.000 It's not true.

01:10:19.000 It's not warranted.

01:10:20.000 Number two, 48% of the entire act of the United States military comes from seven states.

01:10:26.000 So when people want to go fight their sugar-happy wars overseas, it's the boys and girls from Arkansas, Tennessee, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia that are stepping up and rising in huge numbers.

01:10:37.000 Love California, love New York.

01:10:39.000 They are the two most underperforming per capita voluntary enlistment states in the entire country. 0.85

01:10:45.000 And so this entire righteous Malibu, Manhattan, Ivory Tower syndrome that we're going to go tell the South about their slavery, like, excuse me, when you wanted to go fight the Korean War and we had 35,000 people die, it was the South that rose up in huge numbers. 0.77

01:10:59.000 When we wanted to go fight in Vietnam, or we fought the war on terror, it was the South that rose up in even higher numbers, 55, 60%. 0.55

01:11:05.000 And they didn't rise up in the way that you thought.

01:11:07.000 They rose and they stood in line.

01:11:08.000 They said, I'm going to go sacrifice my life so the person in Malibu can still enjoy their vegan milkshake and tell me how awful that I am, right?

01:11:18.000 One more.

01:11:23.000 And even more so, as it is a war on the American South, it's a war on the American military.

01:11:30.000 We are a complicated nation historically, but we're a beautiful nation historically.

01:11:37.000 And the hubris, the pride, and the provoking that they are trying to put into the entire part of the American experience is intentional.

01:11:45.000 It's intentional for a variety of reasons.

01:11:47.000 And even as someone who, again, does not list this as the highest level of my hierarchy of what I care about, I will not give them an inch.

01:11:54.000 I refuse to, because I know exactly why they're Doing what they're doing.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 06, 2020

Crucial Lessons from the 20th Century

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