The Charlie Kirk Show - Culture, Christianity Inc. and the Fight of Our Lives for Western Civilization

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00:00:09.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I'm airing one of my favorite speeches I gave very recently about fighting in our country, what you can do to make a difference.

00:00:17.000 It was at my friend Pastor Ken Graves Church in Maine.

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00:00:38.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:00:50.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:02:09.000 So I'm going to give you an update.

00:02:11.000 My very good friend and my pastor, the person who I really have gotten to know Ken because of, Pastor Rob McCoy, he is fighting the battle right now in Thousand Oaks.

00:02:22.000 Update from last service.

00:02:24.000 A criminal restraining order was put against his church for gathering this week, despite no virus cases, socially distanced service, and the cannabis distributor, the strip clubs, and the liquor stores are open.

00:02:37.000 And he says, why can't we have church?

00:02:39.000 They went after him.

00:02:40.000 They're threatening arrest.

00:02:42.000 And he's defying it.

00:02:44.000 And I think they're going to have like 12,000 people show up in their little 600-person church.

00:02:48.000 So it's pretty amazing.

00:02:49.000 We'll keep you updated on that.

00:02:50.000 So praise God.

00:02:53.000 Pretty awesome.

00:02:54.000 So for those of you that have no idea who I am, I'm born and raised from Chicago, Illinois.

00:03:00.000 The fun thing about being from Illinois is we have term limits in Illinois.

00:03:03.000 It's a little different than in Maine.

00:03:05.000 See, in Illinois, it's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:03:09.000 So when we ask for our governor's cell number, we actually mean his cell number.

00:03:16.000 I could keep going with Illinois Chicago jokes.

00:03:21.000 I spend some summers here in Maine for a couple weeks, and I love it here.

00:03:25.000 It's spectacular.

00:03:25.000 So it's such an honor to be in front of all of you and to be able to communicate kind of what I do.

00:03:30.000 So I visit college campuses.

00:03:31.000 I organize them.

00:03:32.000 Turning Point USA, we're on over 2,000 high school and college campuses across the country.

00:03:37.000 I have spoken at some of the most adversarial, most difficult campuses imaginable, from Brown University to UC Berkeley to Stanford to Harvard to Yale.

00:03:47.000 And I've lived to tell about it.

00:03:48.000 And I am unafraid to say that God is real.

00:03:51.000 I'm unafraid to say that our country is actually a gift from the generations that preceded us.

00:03:56.000 We have to understand how this country was built.

00:03:59.000 And I think that we're really losing that in our country in a lot of different ways.

00:04:02.000 And so when I travel these campuses and I get booed at and I get screamed at, I actually know that I'm probably going in the right direction at that moment.

00:04:10.000 You know, when you come up against that kind of fierce antagonism from the secular, atheist, very bitter community, you're like, I must be doing something right if they are really coming after me that aggressively.

00:04:21.000 And that's not always the case.

00:04:23.000 That's not always a great rule of thumb.

00:04:24.000 But it is when you go to a college campus, I'll tell you that much.

00:04:27.000 So I want to touch on a couple things and kind of kind of complete the picture here.

00:04:33.000 But I will kind of reiterate something I mentioned in the first couple services, which is we really are in a spiritual battle in this country.

00:04:40.000 And there's now a public referendum that is very scary, where we have now prioritized through our laws that what we are doing right now is actually illegal.

00:04:49.000 And the United States Supreme Court, it is said it's illegal under federal law for more than 50 people to gather at church.

00:04:56.000 And they said that.

00:04:57.000 John Roberts said that last Friday, week and a half ago, where Calvary Chapel, Las Vegas, was sued.

00:05:03.000 And they said, why is it that Caesar's Palace can remain open, a casino, and be at 50% capacity, but we can't.

00:05:11.000 And they lost incredibly, five-four.

00:05:15.000 Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Alito, and Thomas ruled correctly.

00:05:19.000 And the other five justices ruled incorrectly.

00:05:21.000 Roberts, Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, and Breyer, the five four decision.

00:05:27.000 Incredibly stunning decision.

00:05:28.000 Where basically the decision was, if you're a casino, if you're a cannabis distributor, if you're a strip club, if you're Walmart, if you're Home Depot, you are essential.

00:05:38.000 But a church, sit and obey no more than 50 people.

00:05:44.000 And to be consistent, if you're saying it's about public health, then all mass gatherings should be held accountably similar, right?

00:05:52.000 Especially the 250,000 people that were in Boston on the streets of Boston in early June, or the 500,000 people in the streets of New York.

00:06:02.000 And so what we as Christians have just wanted is just a fair shake.

00:06:05.000 Why is it that churches are treated so categorically different?

00:06:08.000 And we're seeing this across the country.

00:06:10.000 And what we have basically seen is that admission from our governmental rulers is they believe that salvation is not essential and church is not essential.

00:06:18.000 And boy, is there ever a time to stand up against that as clearly as possible as we as faith-filled people, because the government will push us as far as we're willing to take it.

00:06:30.000 And what Ken has done amazingly, and Ken's like, come on and arrest me.

00:06:33.000 And I don't think they will.

00:06:36.000 And a lot of it is because they know that as soon as they start to overly criminalize Christianity, hopefully, I would hope there'd be a backlash.

00:06:46.000 I'll tell you, though, from inside their circles, and I read a lot of their internal writings and things that have been leaked, they can't believe how little backlash there has been.

00:06:54.000 Just so you know, they have not been able to believe how weak American Christians have become.

00:07:01.000 And they've basically said that.

00:07:02.000 They thought that they would not be able to shut down the church on Easter, but they were.

00:07:07.000 And think about it, it's the most holy day on our calendar.

00:07:10.000 More people come to Christ on Easter Sunday.

00:07:12.000 They come in for once a year, and hopefully they hear the word of God for the first time or the first time in a long time.

00:07:16.000 And that was just basically robbed of us.

00:07:18.000 20 million people were not able to go to Easter.

00:07:20.000 And some people say, well, we have it on a live stream, and that's fine.

00:07:23.000 Hi, everybody watching on the live stream, and that's a perfectly acceptable method of communication.

00:07:28.000 However, church is more than a YouTube channel.

00:07:31.000 Church is a gathering of believers.

00:07:32.000 It's ecclesia.

00:07:33.000 It is believers helping people.

00:07:35.000 I might be having trouble at my job.

00:07:37.000 I need advice.

00:07:38.000 I need friendship.

00:07:39.000 It's fellowship.

00:07:40.000 It's all those different things.

00:07:41.000 And it's more than just a digital online community or a Facebook group.

00:07:45.000 It is the actual physical gathering of human beings.

00:07:48.000 That's not the case, unfortunately, today.

00:07:50.000 And we're seeing that kind of conflicting worldviews come together.

00:07:54.000 Why is this happening?

00:07:55.000 Well, it's because some people in government and in leadership believe the church is a true obstacle to what they want to actually achieve.

00:08:02.000 Is that the church is actually getting in the way of their power grab?

00:08:07.000 You see, some people in the more atheist secular community in our country, they believe that the church is an impediment to the kind of country that they want to live in.

00:08:18.000 And this is a very difficult conversation for some people to have, but it shouldn't be for us Christians because we know it.

00:08:23.000 This was predicted.

00:08:24.000 This was prophesied in the Bible, in the text, that we were going to come under great persecution.

00:08:29.000 And we, for a couple centuries, quite honestly, the last hundred years especially, we Christians have actually had it pretty good in Christian historical terms.

00:08:39.000 In Christian historical terms, we have it the best that Christians basically have ever had it.

00:08:43.000 The early church was under severe persecution, Nero cutting Christians' heads off.

00:08:48.000 The early church met in catacombs in Rome out of fear of persecution, of governance.

00:08:53.000 It wasn't until the conversion of Constantine about 350 years after Christ was Christianity even a normally accepted religion in the Mediterranean.

00:09:03.000 It was a religion that was basically always being persecuted.

00:09:06.000 It wasn't until Marcus Aurelius, the last good emperor of Rome, who was in a lot of different ways a misunderstood figure in the West, but also helped create a lot of what they call Stoic philosophy.

00:09:18.000 He was actually a friend of Christians.

00:09:21.000 And it wasn't until him was there actually some sort of normalcy of the expression of Christianity.

00:09:27.000 The rule, not the exception, has been the martyrdom and the persecution of Christians across the planet. 0.81

00:09:33.000 So we've grown kind of comfortable, haven't we?

00:09:35.000 We can go to church.

00:09:36.000 We know it's protected because of that beautiful document, the greatest political document ever written in the history of the world, the United States Constitution.

00:09:42.000 We'll get into that.

00:09:44.000 And now it's kind of all being put in jeopardy.

00:09:46.000 And they do say it's because of public health, but if it is, then be consistent.

00:09:50.000 Then say that 200,000 people that go to Boston and New York can't gather.

00:09:54.000 Maybe we should live in a country where a weed distributorship isn't more important than a church.

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00:11:16.000 And so then we ask ourselves the question, what is the church actually there to do?

00:11:20.000 And I've seen what this church has done.

00:11:22.000 I've heard the stories, drug recovery, opioid recovery, marriage counseling, helping people get through tough times.

00:11:29.000 The church is actually a moral necessity for a civil society.

00:11:34.000 But certain people don't want that to be the case.

00:11:36.000 They want the government to replace that.

00:11:39.000 What a dangerous path that is to get on.

00:11:41.000 And so if they had a button to push and they could say they could close this church, they would absolutely press that button.

00:11:47.000 What's interesting is that if we had the same button to eliminate atheists or secularists, we wouldn't push that button.

00:11:55.000 Because we see those people as an opportunity, not as an obstacle.

00:11:59.000 We see those people as a chance to be able to interface with them and bring them to eternity and bring truth to them.

00:12:04.000 So as I'm tasked to go to college campuses, it's a very telling thing because I could tell you exactly where the culture is going five years from now.

00:12:12.000 So five years ago, five years earlier, I would tell you that there was going to be a defund police movement, there was going to be an abolished prisons movement, and the war in Christianity would only intensify.

00:12:23.000 People didn't believe me.

00:12:24.000 People thought I was being alarmist.

00:12:25.000 It's very simple.

00:12:26.000 Whatever happens on college campuses will soon happen in your entire culture.

00:12:30.000 What happens in college campuses will soon happen in the halls of Congress.

00:12:33.000 And I saw the bitterness, the resentment, and the arrogance that people had towards Christianity.

00:12:38.000 The biggest thing that happens when I go to college campus is the mockery that God might exist.

00:12:42.000 They believe that man created God, not that God created man.

00:12:45.000 They believe that atheism is the only true way to create a civil society or whatever society they want to create.

00:12:51.000 And I can tell you right now, the way that culture is headed in the next five years, it's very troubling if we continue on these trends of what's happening on our university campuses.

00:13:00.000 Because what ends up happening is you have these elite schools, mostly in the Northeast and out west, that are teaching ingratitude for the nation that we live in.

00:13:08.000 They don't teach that the Constitution is actually the greatest political document ever written that allows for the free expression of religion, the free expression of ideas regardless of your faith or any faith at all whatsoever.

00:13:18.000 Instead, they say that the Constitution is an oppressive document that must be eliminated and we must start over.

00:13:24.000 And so this is the idea of postmodernism.

00:13:27.000 I talked about this in the first service, but if you don't know what postmodernism is, I'll give you a quick download and then I encourage you to find out because every one of your kids is learning it.

00:13:36.000 Every single one of your kids, either through Snapchat, TikTok, delete TikTok, by the way, for all you young people out there.

00:13:41.000 It's awful.

00:13:42.000 And China's spying on you.

00:13:43.000 So get rid of it. 0.95

00:13:45.000 TikTok, Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hulu, Netflix.

00:13:49.000 These ideas are being mass propagandized to you.

00:13:52.000 First belief, there is no God.

00:13:53.000 Get that out of your mind sphere.

00:13:56.000 If you believe in God, it is inherently contradictory to postmodernism.

00:13:59.000 This was theorized by two of the most unhappy philosophers. 0.97

00:14:03.000 They're both French, go figure. 0.85

00:14:05.000 Not that I have anything against the French.

00:14:06.000 It's just not exactly the, let's say, the frontiersmen of philosophy.

00:14:11.000 So they've really, they're striking out, in my opinion.

00:14:14.000 But these guys, Jacques Derrida and Michelle Foucault.

00:14:16.000 Okay.

00:14:17.000 So this should all kind of come sense, make sense for you as it's kind of put together.

00:14:21.000 They argued that there's no such thing as absolute truth.

00:14:25.000 This was in the 60s and 70s.

00:14:27.000 What does that really mean?

00:14:27.000 There's no such thing as Jesus.

00:14:29.000 That's what they're really saying.

00:14:30.000 They're saying that there's no such thing as truth, that everyone has their own version of truth, and the only thing that exists in the world that is actually real is power.

00:14:40.000 It's all they say.

00:14:41.000 That everything that we do is nothing more than a power play.

00:14:44.000 That's why they're so obsessed with power when you think about it.

00:14:46.000 Because that's the only thing that they can actually touch and they can understand is having power over another group.

00:14:52.000 They look at everything through a lens of victims and oppressor.

00:14:56.000 That's how they look through everything. 1.00

00:14:58.000 That without us realizing it, the women in America are inherently oppressed by the patriarchy, that there's always a power system at play, and the only way to actually get rid of it is to blow up our entire civilization. 0.76

00:15:11.000 Now, this might come to you as it might seem radical. 0.57

00:15:14.000 This might seem unrealistic.

00:15:15.000 No, this is mainstream ideology in every academy across the country.

00:15:20.000 This is who publishes your newspapers.

00:15:22.000 This is who teaches most of your kids.

00:15:24.000 This is who creates your movies.

00:15:25.000 These are the ideas that are expressed in every single vein.

00:15:28.000 And they're all at odds, and it's spiritual war with the Bible and with the Word of God, every single one of them.

00:15:35.000 And so if you understand deeper what their true agenda is, there's a reason why they remove prayer in our schools.

00:15:41.000 There's a reason why you cannot teach the Bible.

00:15:43.000 Because as soon as you introduce the Bible to somebody's life, all of a sudden, the power play that might be underway might mean a lot less because someone might actually be able to find ultimate truth and a higher power.

00:15:56.000 So these people are very much driven by resentment.

00:15:58.000 They're driven by a bitterness that is within them, that we know this is a problem because they don't have ultimate salvation.

00:16:05.000 However, they will go their entire life trying to satisfy that kind of bitterness through earthly means, right?

00:16:12.000 Trying to find it where they're never going to actually be able to find that kind of peace that we as Christians all have.

00:16:17.000 Now, what's the significance of this?

00:16:20.000 Is that if you allow this to go unchecked, which we have, an entire generation of young people will have no appreciation for the country that they're in, where 54% of my generation believes it's basically time to completely change Western civilization.

00:16:37.000 So what is Western society anyway?

00:16:39.000 Well, it's the Bible that built Western society.

00:16:41.000 It's things that we take so much for granted, we don't even recognize them.

00:16:45.000 We can say something that might be in disagreement with the majority opinion, and we can have that speech protected.

00:16:51.000 That we can pursue our faith as we see fit.

00:16:54.000 That you can own private property.

00:16:56.000 The promise of civil society.

00:16:58.000 The idea that your family, hopefully, will be able to have children that have a better life than you have.

00:17:04.000 Hopefully.

00:17:05.000 Now, a lot of that has been put in jeopardy in the last couple decades, and a lot of that has been, quite honestly, questioned by the elites and the ruling class in our country.

00:17:14.000 So we as Christians right now, I think that this is a huge deciding point for us.

00:17:20.000 It's either going to be that we as Christians kind of want to be something like fourth century monks, or we're going to be like the early church.

00:17:27.000 It's kind of the way.

00:17:28.000 We could be like fourth century monks and go into the caves and never spread the gospel or good news or fight for civil society and just wait for the storm to pass.

00:17:36.000 Or we can do what the Bible actually tells us to do, which is to go contest for truth in every single corner of civil society or uncivil society.

00:17:44.000 As Paul said, contest for whatsoever is true.

00:17:47.000 He says that in Philippians.

00:17:48.000 Well, whatsoever is true is when people say something like, well, we should abolish police and we should abolish prisons.

00:17:56.000 That's a very bad idea.

00:17:57.000 And we should say it's a bad idea and we should be not afraid to contest for that.

00:18:00.000 The implementation of laws is exactly why we're able to have a civil society.

00:18:06.000 God gave us the law for a reason, because not because he doesn't like us, if he wasn't the fun police, but because he actually loved us.

00:18:12.000 Because if you follow these rules, you'll actually live a more quiet and peaceable life, which is exactly what Paul tells us in 1 Timothy, one of the last things that Paul ever wrote.

00:18:21.000 So the question for us Christians, and this is a very, some people say, you know what?

00:18:25.000 I don't want to get involved in that.

00:18:26.000 I don't want to get involved in government and politics.

00:18:28.000 I think it's all messy, and I'm just going to kind of just go to church every Sunday.

00:18:32.000 Okay.

00:18:33.000 Well, first of all, if the messiness is an excuse, show me one thing that human beings operate in that isn't messy.

00:18:39.000 Churches can be messy.

00:18:40.000 Families, marriages, culture.

00:18:42.000 I mean, the idea that it's kind of not exactly pure, I think is a very bad reason not to get involved in it.

00:18:49.000 Some Christians say, I don't want to get involved in it because of an eschatological belief that Jesus is coming so soon.

00:18:55.000 What's the point. 1.00

00:18:56.000 You know, this is all just doomed.

00:18:58.000 I think that is not theologically sound.

00:19:00.000 I think we are called to spread our light in all corners, especially in civil society and even more so in governance.

00:19:07.000 And I could tell you personally, I am not prepared to face my creator and not have a good reason when it is asked, hey, what did you do about the 61 million abortions that happened since Roe versus Wade?

00:19:18.000 Did you ever mention it?

00:19:19.000 Did you speak out against it?

00:19:20.000 Because that's one of the greatest innocent slaughters in the history of the planet.

00:19:23.000 I'm not okay just saying I was okay with it and I didn't do something about it.

00:19:27.000 We have a 1 million abortions a year in this country.

00:19:29.000 1 million.

00:19:30.000 And I speak out and I say we should have more compassion and love for women that have done that, but we should also be very clear that if there's anything for the church to get involved with, my goodness, is that not a moral yes or no issue when people that have no voice at all whatsoever have their lives taken away from them.

00:19:48.000 If there's ever a yes or no choice, that is one of them.

00:19:51.000 And so I think that, and this is not the majority opinion, by the way, more pastors, Ken is the outlier, not the rule.

00:19:59.000 More pastors are running to the hills away from these discussions than ever before.

00:20:04.000 This is the Gideon's army moment, right?

00:20:06.000 Where our forces are thinning and thinning and thinning.

00:20:09.000 And if you remember the biblical story of Gideon's army, God thins the ranks and thins the ranks.

00:20:15.000 And he thins it even more, where he says, go drink from the river.

00:20:18.000 And the people that either get on the knees or they drank like this, one of the two he sent home.

00:20:22.000 It's only 300 people left.

00:20:23.000 And they ended up delivering and winning the battle, believe it or not.

00:20:26.000 And I think he did that for a very important reason, so that the people who won the battle wouldn't give themselves the credit, but give God the credit.

00:20:32.000 I think that's exactly what is happening now.

00:20:34.000 In some ways, it's actually like a refiner's fire.

00:20:37.000 This is actually a really refreshing moment.

00:20:39.000 I'm actually more enthused that our ranks are shrinking than ever before.

00:20:44.000 And it's really funny.

00:20:45.000 I grew up in a couple Bible-based churches in Chicago, and I've followed some of these pastors.

00:20:50.000 And I have a lot of respect for these guys.

00:20:52.000 And I won't say any names, but there is one that he could not have been a more fire and brimstone preacher.

00:20:58.000 He's perfectly theologically sound.

00:21:00.000 I'd watch him on YouTube and I loved him.

00:21:02.000 And he's like, when they come after us and it's the end times, our church will remain open.

00:21:07.000 And we are going to be preaching.

00:21:09.000 And we will not allow anyone to be affected.

00:21:11.000 And I was like, I wonder how this guy is doing.

00:21:12.000 And I go to his website.

00:21:13.000 We are closed till December for a live stream.

00:21:16.000 I'm like, okay.

00:21:17.000 You know, and I was like, I remember the sermon when he was like, we are going to fight.

00:21:22.000 Nothing can get past us.

00:21:24.000 And you can know that our church is a place for it.

00:21:26.000 And then he had this like, he's like, you know, we have to stay closed and all this.

00:21:29.000 And okay.

00:21:30.000 And I think that's actually really refreshing because words, actions, right, they must connect.

00:21:36.000 And God bless Ken for his conviction to be able to do what he's doing.

00:21:40.000 Seriously, you have a great leader here.

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00:22:55.000 And it's not easy. 0.98

00:22:57.000 And ridicule is a promise of Christianity. 0.53

00:23:00.000 You know you're going to be mocked. 0.84

00:23:01.000 You know you're going to have things thrown at you.

00:23:05.000 That is something we should embrace, actually.

00:23:07.000 We should celebrate that.

00:23:09.000 And I completely agree with Ken.

00:23:12.000 There's this whole new thing that's happening in Christianity where it's like Christian Inc. almost, where there's a whole megaplex of the author-speaker series.

00:23:21.000 And I can say this as someone who's kind of an outsider.

00:23:23.000 I'm not a pastor.

00:23:24.000 I run an organization that does have a secular charter, but I'm a Bible-believing Christian.

00:23:29.000 So I can kind of play in both spaces here.

00:23:31.000 And I look at Christianity externally and kind of the whole kind of complex that's been created.

00:23:39.000 And generally, it's about meeting the budgetary needs and expanding to get the most amount of people in the biggest possible building and getting all these YouTube views and all those things.

00:23:50.000 And I think some of them have good intentions.

00:23:52.000 I really do.

00:23:53.000 I think some of them say, hey, we can reach more people.

00:23:54.000 We can multiply the gospel.

00:23:55.000 We do all these sorts of things.

00:23:56.000 But Ken hit it exactly right.

00:23:58.000 It's about create disciples of all nations.

00:24:01.000 Well, discipleship is a long, drawn-out process.

00:24:05.000 You know, we call the 12 disciples of Jesus, we call them the disciples, but they didn't start that way.

00:24:11.000 They started as followers, and Jesus poured into them over a long period of time before they were able to be called disciples, right?

00:24:17.000 Through kind of discourse and dialogue and disagreement, then they were able to wear that banner and that kind of badge of discipleship.

00:24:25.000 It's a long process.

00:24:27.000 It's not just one YouTube video of four and a half minutes, you know, of someone that's just saying, you know, with the lights behind them and all that stuff, that's kind of a feel-good gospel.

00:24:36.000 And I'm not opposed to that theologically.

00:24:38.000 What I am opposed to is when the church has become so absent from the culture that they exist in, and it gets even worse than that.

00:24:48.000 When the church involves itself on the opposite insidious forces.

00:24:52.000 So it would be one thing if the church remained neutral during this in the last eight weeks.

00:24:56.000 That would be frustrating. 0.56

00:24:59.000 So many churches, including Bible-believing churches all across the country, they have gotten actively involved in raising the money, activating their congregation, and mobilizing it towards things that are around destroying the nuclear family and destroying Western society. 0.90

00:25:15.000 Active. 0.86

00:25:15.000 Like we have to go and march in the streets for this. 0.86

00:25:19.000 And some of these pastors, and I follow some of them on Instagram, and yeah, they have half a million Instagram followers and all those sorts of things.

00:25:25.000 They have never spoken out against on the issue of life, ever.

00:25:29.000 They've never spoken out about the persecution of the church.

00:25:32.000 But the one time they decide to go mobilize is around a very deceptive movement that kind of came out in early June, that if you read the website, was about destroying the Westernist prescribed nuclear family, was around pitting people against each other based on their immutable characteristics, and quite honestly, was about disrupting the biblical worldview that we all have.

00:25:53.000 I was like, that's what you get involved in?

00:25:55.000 That's the moment you stand up.

00:25:57.000 And I think almost all of this is rooted in bad theology.

00:26:01.000 I really do.

00:26:02.000 I think a lot of this is rooted in a poor understanding of the Bible as almost reading it the way you want to see it and also not accepting some of the harder truths that are around it.

00:26:11.000 I think additionally, you know, we have to be honest that Christianity should always be contesting for the most difficult cultural struggles.

00:26:21.000 This is hard because we're always like, well, we don't know if we're going to win.

00:26:25.000 Well, the victory here is actually completely irrelevant to whether or not you should get involved.

00:26:30.000 In fact, I couldn't think of a more irrelevant reason not to get involved because we've already won.

00:26:35.000 The battle's already over, right?

00:26:36.000 That's why you guys are called Calvary Chapel, right?

00:26:38.000 Because the victory was done on Calvary, like literally.

00:26:41.000 Like that's already done.

00:26:42.000 So we know how this whole thing plays out.

00:26:44.000 Now, what are you going to do to contest for truth?

00:26:46.000 And my opinion, 61 million souls that are no longer, that are not breathing since 1972 or 1973, that's not good for anyone.

00:26:56.000 It's not good for the gospel.

00:26:57.000 It's not good for the kingdom.

00:26:58.000 It's not good for our country.

00:26:59.000 It's not good for civilization at all whatsoever. 1.00

00:27:02.000 And so, yes, Christianity has grown in some metrics since the 1970s, absolutely. 0.98

00:27:08.000 But what kind of culture have we been able to pour into?

00:27:12.000 Right?

00:27:12.000 And that's a very, that's an uncomfortable conversation for us, right?

00:27:16.000 And so, in some ways, it's been more about building bigger gathering sites, right?

00:27:22.000 Big, all these, and not actually being able to contest for truth where it really matters.

00:27:26.000 And so people ask me, they say, and I travel a lot.

00:27:30.000 I'm speaking at a church next week.

00:27:31.000 I spoke at Jack Hibbs last week.

00:27:32.000 God bless Jack Hibbs, and he's phenomenal.

00:27:35.000 There's so few good pastors out there.

00:27:36.000 And Rob, I always go out of my way to make sure I mention them.

00:27:38.000 Jack Hibbs and Ken Graves and Rob McCoy.

00:27:41.000 And as I meet more, I'm going to add them to the list.

00:27:44.000 But most, my goodness, I get these messages from these pastors, and they're like, you're causing discord in the body of Christ, Charlie.

00:27:51.000 You're causing upheaval.

00:27:52.000 I mean, you wouldn't believe the message.

00:27:54.000 And I say, I'm causing discord.

00:27:56.000 Like, you're the one that doesn't have your church open.

00:27:59.000 Like, how am I the one causing discord?

00:28:02.000 Anyway, what we really have here, though, more broadly, is, I think, a call to action for us Christians.

00:28:08.000 I really do.

00:28:09.000 And it's actually a really fun time if we embrace it.

00:28:12.000 If you accept the suffering that will happen, the persecution that's inevitable, the backlash, but also the promise that this is what we're called to do, then this is the time to rise up.

00:28:22.000 I can't think of a more exciting time to actually be a Christian.

00:28:25.000 I can't.

00:28:26.000 And now's the time to actually be able to contest in these very people say divisive.

00:28:31.000 Well, it's too divisive for me.

00:28:33.000 I mean, your logo is literally a sword here, right?

00:28:36.000 I mean, that's for a reason, right?

00:28:38.000 It's supposed to be divisive.

00:28:40.000 I mean, Christ had a message that can apply to all people, but he was very clear that not everyone was going to be able to go on that path.

00:28:49.000 The door is narrow, right?

00:28:50.000 I mean, it's a misapplication at times of, I think, American Christianity of that.

00:28:56.000 So a couple things, kind of what we're going through more societally and more socially right now.

00:29:04.000 I see a couple crises happening.

00:29:06.000 I didn't talk about this as much in the first couple sermons, so I definitely want to get into it.

00:29:10.000 There's a crisis of masculinity in our country.

00:29:12.000 There is.

00:29:13.000 There's a war on men, the likes of which we've never seen.

00:29:16.000 And I am, of course, for strong men and strong women, but we have hyper-feminized America to a way that is so unbelievably dangerous, our society will cease to exist.

00:29:26.000 Now, mind you, a country can get too masculine too.

00:29:29.000 It can. 0.77

00:29:30.000 That's when you get strongman dictatorships that end up exploiting the power they get.

00:29:34.000 So I'm not saying that one society needs to be completely more masculine than feminine.

00:29:40.000 I actually think it needs to be balanced, like a marriage where one becomes in flesh, where there are attributes that God gave the feminine and the masculine.

00:29:47.000 I mean more archetypically here, and then I'll actually dive into the actual practice.

00:29:52.000 But the masculine traits have been completely eradicated from our society.

00:29:57.000 Young men are committing suicide in our country, the rates of which it should be the number one public health crisis in the country.

00:30:03.000 More young men have committed suicide.

00:30:05.000 That should just make us stop and say, what kind of country are we living in right now?

00:30:10.000 Mind you, self-exiting from life should be, all death is a tragedy.

00:30:15.000 But self-exit is something that should just make everyone just be very just, it should just, I've lost friends of suicide, and it's very, very hard.

00:30:24.000 And it's hard for the people around you.

00:30:25.000 But we have to ask ourselves, why is this happening?

00:30:28.000 And it happens for men and women, but it's almost 10 to 1 men to women, okay?

00:30:31.000 Almost 10 to 1.

00:30:33.000 And the reason is because from the time you're seven years old in the public school system, young men, either consciously or subconsciously, are ridiculed and attacked for things they cannot control.

00:30:43.000 The entire education system, first of all, is designed against the way that young boys actually are.

00:30:48.000 They're hyperactive.

00:30:49.000 They're hard to focus.

00:30:50.000 And we say, go sit for eight hours a day. 1.00

00:30:51.000 That's like the stupidest idea we could possibly have, right? 1.00

00:30:54.000 I know that from someone who's a little bit hyperactive, right? 1.00

00:30:57.000 Just minorly. 0.97

00:30:59.000 The school system is designed primarily for young girls. 0.98

00:31:02.000 That's good. 0.98

00:31:03.000 They actually flourish. 0.88

00:31:05.000 That's why young girls, since the 1980s, have higher graduation rates, lower suicide rates.

00:31:09.000 They earn more than young men up to the age of 30 until many of them decide to have children.

00:31:13.000 They have more college degrees, more doctorates, more master's degrees, lower bankruptcy rates.

00:31:17.000 I mean, every metric you can, young women are doing better than young men.

00:31:21.000 That's not necessarily bad, by the way.

00:31:22.000 I'm going to tell you kind of the implications of that.

00:31:24.000 I'm not ridiculing it.

00:31:25.000 I'm just saying the system works very well if young women apply themselves. 0.99

00:31:29.000 They do.

00:31:30.000 The issue is that, I'll get into the issue of that in a second.

00:31:33.000 Let me pause that.

00:31:34.000 But young men, in a lot of ways, especially in their developmental phases, ages 8, 9, and 10, the years that really matter, we have a school system that is not set up for them at all.

00:31:44.000 Then you put into an entire culture of guilty until proven innocent, where 13, 14, and 15-year-olds, the messages I get of 14-year-olds that are being accused of things they did not do and being guilty until proven innocent is unbelievable.

00:31:57.000 And then we have an entire, by the time young men get into high school, they get a hyper-feminized view of everything.

00:32:05.000 And it really creates an imbalance in a very, very, I think, dangerous way.

00:32:11.000 The number one complaint, we do a young women's leadership summit every single year.

00:32:15.000 Our young women's leadership summit has 1,500 young women from across the country.

00:32:19.000 The number one complaint I get is I cannot find strong men, honest men, men that have responsibility.

00:32:25.000 And these are young women that have their act together. 0.98

00:32:27.000 22 years old, college graduates, first in their class, and they have all those things, but the thing they really, really want is a loyal spouse and someone that they're able to build a future with.

00:32:37.000 It's a crisis.

00:32:38.000 Then men say all the time, Charlie, my life has no meaning.

00:32:42.000 I have no direction, and I don't know what to do.

00:32:45.000 And I say, I know exactly why this is happening.

00:32:48.000 It's because your entire life, you've been taught a lie of self-esteem, not of self-control.

00:32:54.000 And you have never been taught the necessity of responsibility.

00:32:57.000 Men and women are different.

00:32:59.000 Women, we actually give them a lot of responsibility.

00:33:02.000 We do. 1.00

00:33:03.000 The school system helps them reconcile with it. 0.99

00:33:05.000 Men need a different type of responsibility than women, though. 0.89

00:33:07.000 Men need adventure. 0.98

00:33:08.000 It's very different, especially young men.

00:33:11.000 16, 17, and 18-year-olds need to feel as if they're on a path that has meaning.

00:33:14.000 It's biblical.

00:33:15.000 Abraham lived with his father until he was like 485 years old. 0.87

00:33:18.000 You would know better than me.

00:33:19.000 I'm somewhat exaggerating. 0.94

00:33:20.000 But seriously, Abraham was kind of like a bum, right?

00:33:23.000 And he was living at his father, and then God said, go on an adventure.

00:33:26.000 It's biblical.

00:33:27.000 All throughout the Old Testament, we see people living at their fathers, and then they send out and go, right?

00:33:31.000 And young men, we do the exact opposite.

00:33:34.000 And we should release them into the world where we say, you have to become a tougher person to shoulder a burden to protect the innocent, to build something meaningful. 0.50

00:33:42.000 That is the masculine role.

00:33:44.000 To go out into the forest and the woods that is dark, that is dangerous, deliver the goods, and come back home. 0.92

00:33:50.000 The woman is the protector, the nurturer.

00:33:52.000 And I'm not supposed to be saying any of this because I get, you know, ridiculously attacked by the media, which is why I say it all the time.

00:33:58.000 Because they say, oh, that's incorrect.

00:34:00.000 And look, of course, there's exceptions to all of this.

00:34:03.000 But we know these things to be generally true.

00:34:05.000 Of course we do.

00:34:05.000 It built our entire civilization, for goodness sakes.

00:34:08.000 And you just, you think we can disrupt that and things are just going to be okay?

00:34:12.000 Of course not.

00:34:13.000 I mean, I go to these campuses.

00:34:14.000 They say there's no difference between men and women.

00:34:16.000 That's what I hear.

00:34:16.000 It's like there's no difference.

00:34:18.000 I mean, that is such a perverted, excuse me, perverted view of the world that you had to go to Brown University to believe something like that, that there's no difference between men and women, biologically or societally or whatever.

00:34:28.000 And so for young men in particular, if we do not address this crisis of lack of masculinity, the entire culture will cease to exist.

00:34:35.000 It will.

00:34:36.000 And so what is the byproduct of it?

00:34:38.000 This year, we are on pace to have 500,000 less babies than last year.

00:34:42.000 500,000.

00:34:45.000 The 30-year-olds right now are the most unmarried generation in American history, most unmarried.

00:34:49.000 Highest suicide rate for young men under the ages 28 to 32.

00:34:53.000 Highest addictions to everything imagine from drugs to pornography to online video consumption.

00:34:58.000 And yet, so these are the byproducts of it. 1.00

00:35:01.000 And then you have the unhappiest female demographic in the history of the planet. 0.96

00:35:05.000 You have very successful, corporate, aspirational, young 33-year-old women that can't find a spouse, or the spouse they do find is not exactly like Ken Graves. 0.99

00:35:16.000 Let's just put it that way, okay?

00:35:17.000 Not exactly the lumberjack that's going to protect the family, okay? 1.00

00:35:22.000 And so then what ends up happening is the woman has to play the masculine. 0.99

00:35:27.000 And that is not sustainable. 0.92

00:35:29.000 And I understand it has to happen sometimes.

00:35:30.000 I get it.

00:35:31.000 I am not attacking women that have to do this.

00:35:33.000 I'm not.

00:35:33.000 I'm talking generally socioeconomically and in a sociological way.

00:35:38.000 It creates incredibly unstable families.

00:35:40.000 And it creates children that do not have the right archetypes for aspiration.

00:35:45.000 They do not.

00:35:46.000 That balance and that role model.

00:35:47.000 Children are way more smart, are way smarter than we give them credit for.

00:35:50.000 Like they're freaking unbelievably geniuses, right?

00:35:54.000 They are.

00:35:55.000 And they are 18 months old and they're looking at their father and looking at their mother, two years old, and they're seeing what they want to become.

00:36:02.000 Truly.

00:36:03.000 And if they do not see that correctly in the archetypical fashion, well, that's when all of a sudden you start to see societal upheaval, where you have 500,000 less babies this year than last year.

00:36:13.000 We're on the verge of a population collapse.

00:36:15.000 People say overpopulation, not even close.

00:36:18.000 We have young men that are 32 that are saying, I'm never going to get married.

00:36:22.000 Millions of men.

00:36:24.000 You can't sustain a civilization that way.

00:36:26.000 And now it's spreading across the globe.

00:36:28.000 And that's exactly why our biblical worldview is so comforting for us.

00:36:32.000 And that's why we have to spread it, because you have miserable people that have been told nothing but do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.

00:36:40.000 You're the most important person in the world.

00:36:43.000 Where we have a book, The Word of God, 66 books, that are all beautifully put together.

00:36:48.000 And that's just, I talk about the Bible to secularists all the time, and they hate the Bible.

00:36:52.000 They just can't stand it.

00:36:54.000 They think it's just a bunch of mythology and all this.

00:36:56.000 And just taking out that it's actually the spoken word of God, let's just take that absent.

00:37:00.000 The fact the Bible even exists is miraculous.

00:37:03.000 The fact that you have 66 independent pieces of literature that harmonize as beautifully as they do, just from a literary standpoint, is the most exceptional document ever created, ever.

00:37:14.000 And we don't talk about that enough because it wasn't like they all just sat down in one reading and wrote Plato's Republic.

00:37:19.000 Like, that's a pretty good piece of work.

00:37:20.000 But you have 35 or 34, 35, 30 authors, over 5,000 years, more or less, I'll say 2,500 years, that independently write a document that is the perfect summation of the human experience.

00:37:32.000 From creation to the end, to sin, to struggle, to chaos, disorder, disunity, salvation to eternity.

00:37:39.000 Wow.

00:37:39.000 Is that not the journey of the human life right there?

00:37:42.000 And it's completely harmonic where you can just zoom in on one book and say, here's a whole book of how to apply your life to have meaning, the book of Proverbs, right?

00:37:50.000 Here's a book of how to build civil society of government, which is Isaiah.

00:37:53.000 That's where we get the idea of the executive, the legislative, and the judicial government.

00:37:56.000 Here's a whole book of what's going to happen to you and how to endure it, right?

00:38:02.000 Here's a whole book of how to build a church, my goodness.

00:38:04.000 Here's a book of the end times.

00:38:06.000 And it all kind of comes together and it fits so perfectly.

00:38:09.000 Yet that's the book we decide not to teach our kids.

00:38:11.000 That's the one book that is outlawed in most public schools.

00:38:15.000 Think about that. 1.00

00:38:16.000 So they teach the Quran. 1.00

00:38:17.000 They teach white fragility. 1.00

00:38:19.000 They teach the 1619 project, right?

00:38:21.000 But the book that survived, that's the most duplicated, the most influential, the most cited, the kind of one-word, like kind of the one-sentence phrases that we always tell people in the secular world, almost all of them come from the Bible.

00:38:35.000 You treat others the way you want to be treated.

00:38:37.000 Like, okay, that's not an original concept.

00:38:38.000 Okay, go back to the source.

00:38:41.000 The one book that has an answer to everything, how to marry, how to eat, what to do, where to go, all these things, how to speak.

00:38:48.000 That's the book we decide to not put in.

00:38:50.000 But there's a reason.

00:38:51.000 It is the most duplicated, the most copied, the most inspirational book ever written.

00:38:54.000 It's also the most banned, the most mocked, and the most burned book in human history. 0.56

00:39:00.000 And it's a very important point because, yes, there's always a threat of religion. 0.80

00:39:05.000 There is, but there's something different about Christianity. 0.70

00:39:07.000 We all know that. 0.99

00:39:09.000 Christianity always gets more attention. 0.95

00:39:11.000 It always gets more ridicule. 0.72

00:39:13.000 It always gets more backlash.

00:39:15.000 And it's because it's rooted in truth.

00:39:17.000 It is the truth.

00:39:18.000 And so, you know, young people, I get thousands of emails in my podcast a week, thousands.

00:39:24.000 And I'm telling you right now, we have just ignored the mental health crisis in our country, the likes of which, I mean, the emails I get, I just, I am so angry at our entire institutional systems that have failed young people, especially young men, the lack of meaning, lack of direction.

00:39:38.000 And I just, I continually pour into them to try to go back to the original text and sources.

00:39:44.000 And so it's in some ways it's intentional, but if we're not honest about addressing those kind of root causes, it's going to get very, very troubling.

00:39:55.000 So we have that crisis of masculinity.

00:39:56.000 We don't teach the Bible.

00:39:58.000 And then it's even worse. 0.76

00:39:59.000 We actually empower sociopathic people to then run our entire country.

00:40:05.000 People that actually enjoy doing this, right?

00:40:07.000 So if you enjoy being in permanent power, not exactly the type of person that I think should be there.

00:40:15.000 That's kind of the idea the founding fathers first had is, let's have citizen government, right?

00:40:19.000 You kind of serve a couple years and then you leave.

00:40:21.000 If you actually enjoy the whole kind of ruling thing, there's something really wrong with that.

00:40:25.000 You shouldn't be in power.

00:40:27.000 And that's exactly what has ended up happening: people that actually get some sort of fulfillment through the exploitation of free people.

00:40:36.000 And so, kind of to round all this and a couple more points here, the church, I think, is the only solution.

00:40:45.000 Now, mind you, I say that intentionally.

00:40:47.000 I believe Christians are the solution.

00:40:49.000 But the church is the infrastructure of Christianity. 0.98

00:40:54.000 Now, the church we're in it right now, it's not a physical place.

00:40:56.000 It's ecclesia.

00:40:57.000 It's the gathering of believers.

00:40:59.000 But it's also the church that should be looked to to make sense and order out of chaotic times.

00:41:05.000 You think we live in chaos?

00:41:06.000 Of course we live in chaos right now.

00:41:08.000 We do.

00:41:09.000 More so than ever before.

00:41:11.000 And yet, I see some of these people that are kind of struggling.

00:41:14.000 I read these columns, these meandering columns in the New York Times where they're like, I wonder why things are so chaotic right now.

00:41:19.000 It's like, I don't know.

00:41:20.000 You shut down every church for 60 days and you wonder why people lose their minds.

00:41:25.000 Like, yeah, it comes a lot more, it's a lot more tempting to go burn down Boston when you shut down the church.

00:41:30.000 Like, of course it does.

00:41:32.000 It's not the most difficult equation to be able to square.

00:41:36.000 And so, and all of you in your own life, I think right now, we should be called in a couple different ways.

00:41:43.000 And so we have a crisis in all those different things.

00:41:48.000 The educational part of it, I'm a huge advocate of homeschooling.

00:41:51.000 I've advocated for it for a long time.

00:41:53.000 And I think anyone that homeschools should be elevated as heroes.

00:41:55.000 We have to double the homeschooling population in the next five years.

00:41:58.000 And I think that we should really embrace that.

00:42:02.000 And we as, you know, I look at some of these massive churches and I say, boy, if you guys just would have had a little bit smaller meeting space and you would have just subsidized your congregation to have more people homeschooling, maybe you would have, you know, a better culture around you.

00:42:19.000 And so the education of our children is probably one of the most important places that we can all contest and that we can get engaged in.

00:42:25.000 Because if we allow this to play itself out, the civilization that we all love will come crumbling down.

00:42:31.000 And that's something I find a lot, is that people, We have things so unbelievably good by historical terms that we actually don't think it can end.

00:42:41.000 When actually it's inevitable that it will end.

00:42:44.000 It's actually the fact that it exists that is the exception.

00:42:47.000 And apathy, I mean, Thomas Jefferson did it best.

00:42:50.000 He said liberty breeds apathy.

00:42:51.000 It's so true.

00:42:52.000 When you're able to do what you want to do and pursue your faith and create wealth like us, it is actually incredibly predictable that we take it for granted and we don't contest for it.

00:43:01.000 You know why?

00:43:02.000 Because you have something to lose, right?

00:43:04.000 Because you actually have wealth and treasure and family and connections to lose.

00:43:08.000 But if we're not willing to lose everything, then we will lose everything.

00:43:10.000 That's kind of the message here, especially religious freedom.

00:43:14.000 And I'm afraid for a day that I grow up in 30 years from now where the church will absolutely be criminalized, where people running for office have said that if a church does not perform same-sex marriages, they will lose their tax-exempt status.

00:43:27.000 That is now a mainstream opinion of the far left in our country.

00:43:30.000 And it's now metastasized.

00:43:31.000 And if they don't do what they are told, they will shut them down.

00:43:35.000 And we went through exactly why that is the case.

00:43:38.000 And it's the pursuit of power, is what this is all really about.

00:43:42.000 I've done a lot of thinking about this.

00:43:43.000 I've been kind of struggling with these people for quite some time.

00:43:46.000 I've been kicked out of restaurants by them.

00:43:48.000 I've gotten death threats from them.

00:43:49.000 They've chased me around the country.

00:43:51.000 Whatever you've seen, I've been through it.

00:43:54.000 So I can't go on a college campus without at least 15 to 20 armed guards, right?

00:43:57.000 Like all of it.

00:43:58.000 And my message today is exactly what I speech to kids.

00:44:01.000 Like what I'm saying is considered to be hate speech on a college campus.

00:44:04.000 I basically give the exact same speech.

00:44:06.000 Exactly in the same kind of tone, by the way.

00:44:09.000 Shows how weak we have created our young people.

00:44:12.000 They can't even hear other ideas without wanting to run to the hills and smash windows.

00:44:17.000 The extension of that is you have this generation that will soon, how the best way to word this, they won't exactly stop.

00:44:27.000 Like that's that's the one thing I have to kind of communicate.

00:44:30.000 People say, well, soon they're going to kind of burn out.

00:44:32.000 Like, that's never been the case.

00:44:35.000 And so I want to close on this.

00:44:36.000 I don't know how we're doing on time.

00:44:37.000 We're doing okay.

00:44:37.000 It's okay.

00:44:38.000 So I can kind of sort of close.

00:44:40.000 I can do a pastor's close, which is like four different closings, right?

00:44:43.000 So there you go.

00:44:44.000 Yeah.

00:44:45.000 So the first thing is this: that we have this wealth of experimentation of the 20th century.

00:44:51.000 I think God can make good out of even horrific things.

00:44:56.000 I really believe that.

00:44:57.000 So we've actually been given a historical gift.

00:45:00.000 If we just take a pause, because things happen so chaotically, we ask ourselves, what was God trying to teach us in the 20th century?

00:45:08.000 Because the 20th century was a bloodbath.

00:45:10.000 It was the most murderous century in the history of humanity.

00:45:14.000 One century.

00:45:14.000 More people died than almost every century that preceded it by intentional death.

00:45:19.000 What happened?

00:45:20.000 And it wasn't just in Germany, Soviet Union, Mao's China, which I'll get to in a second, Southeast Asia, Cuba, Rhodesia.

00:45:29.000 And we gloss over this.

00:45:31.000 Young people, mostly in our school system, had no idea of 20th century history.

00:45:37.000 I happen to be fascinated by the entire 20th century.

00:45:41.000 I think that God was trying to really, we have an opportunity to learn from it.

00:45:45.000 Now, what do I mean by that?

00:45:46.000 Some people are like, what do you mean 20th century history?

00:45:48.000 Okay, that's the 1900s.

00:45:50.000 And it's a series of replicated and duplicated societal and governmental experiments that ended in well over 120 million people being murdered.

00:46:01.000 And here's the succession that happened.

00:46:04.000 And we can learn from it or we can decide that we're better than it and just walk away from it, right?

00:46:08.000 You get a civilization that is a little bit uneasy.

00:46:14.000 Sound familiar?

00:46:15.000 A little bit on edge, susceptible to lies and deceit and arrogance and bitterness.

00:46:20.000 You destroy everything that came before you.

00:46:22.000 You just say, whatever came before us is a mistake.

00:46:24.000 Woo!

00:46:25.000 Good luck with that.

00:46:28.000 That's a common denominator.

00:46:29.000 Eliminate the history.

00:46:30.000 French Revolution tried doing this back in the 1780s.

00:46:33.000 Robespierre, who led the French Revolution, when he took power, he was as bold to say we have to eliminate time itself. 0.76

00:46:40.000 And they did.

00:46:41.000 They actually created the 10-week calendar.

00:46:43.000 It's true. 1.00

00:46:43.000 The French did. 1.00

00:46:44.000 If you want, basically, all the bad ideas we have right now come from France. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Like, I'm just going to be honest. 1.00

00:46:49.000 Like, they just specialize in societal destruction.

00:46:52.000 And I like their food.

00:46:53.000 They're really nice people.

00:46:54.000 But my goodness, from Rousseau to Derrida to Foucault, it's like, this is my gosh.

00:46:58.000 Very bitter people, right?

00:46:59.000 So I have other French jokes, but I don't want to offend anyone. 1.00

00:47:03.000 So they've invented two things: the white flag and the tourniquet. 1.00

00:47:06.000 That's it. 0.67

00:47:06.000 So I could keep going. 0.67

00:47:09.000 Anyway, so I could keep going.

00:47:12.000 So totally kidding.

00:47:14.000 So, I mean, no offense to any French people out there.

00:47:16.000 So the interesting thing, so to kind of go to the 20th century, we have an opportunity to learn from it.

00:47:27.000 So let's focus on one of the examples, right?

00:47:28.000 You have Mao's China, Castro's Cuba, Mugabe's Rhodesia. 0.51

00:47:33.000 You have Stalin's Russia. 0.90

00:47:35.000 Let's focus on one. 0.88

00:47:36.000 Let's focus on Mao.

00:47:37.000 So we don't talk about this a lot.

00:47:39.000 We're actually living through something that is a byproduct of Maoism.

00:47:43.000 There are millions of people that have fled Mao's China here in America, or at least the generations of, praise God.

00:47:49.000 But you want to talk about something that should be well known in every Western student's classroom. 0.82

00:47:56.000 It's what happened in Mao's China.

00:47:58.000 So Mao took power in the late 1940s after kind of the fallout of World War II.

00:48:05.000 Japan controlled Manchuria and Mao took power.

00:48:09.000 It was a brutal conflict.

00:48:10.000 In the 50s and 60s, he said he believed in Marxism, right?

00:48:14.000 He implemented a lot of it.

00:48:15.000 But then Mao did something that was very unprecedented.

00:48:19.000 He did his own cultural revolution.

00:48:22.000 So he wasn't pleased with just having power.

00:48:24.000 He wasn't.

00:48:25.000 He wanted to reprogram the minds of an entire civilization.

00:48:29.000 So let's just put aside that Mao killed 60 million people, right?

00:48:33.000 Let's just put that aside.

00:48:34.000 Just think about how many people that is.

00:48:35.000 That is like all of California, right?

00:48:38.000 So like just eliminating California. 0.95

00:48:40.000 Murder, done. 0.96

00:48:41.000 Okay.

00:48:41.000 So he employed something called the Red Guard that went around and would make sure that you had Mao's little red book.

00:48:50.000 They would make sure that you knew everything you needed to know to be obedient to Chairman Mao.

00:48:54.000 And so they'd go around and they'd say, where's your little red book?

00:48:57.000 And you know what the little red book was?

00:48:59.000 The little red book was 267 different phrases of Chairman Mao.

00:49:03.000 It was like their Bible, right? 0.71

00:49:05.000 No religion, no Christianity, no belief in God. 0.83

00:49:07.000 Instead, they went around culturally revolutionizing people and indoctrinating them. 0.98

00:49:11.000 If you didn't believe it, you got shot in the head. 0.85

00:49:12.000 It was that simple.

00:49:13.000 Because if there's no God, right and wrong is just an opinion, right?

00:49:18.000 If you don't believe in God, morals is just like, whatever is best.

00:49:22.000 And so for them, it's all about power.

00:49:24.000 So Mao created one of the most oppressive, repressive regimes ever to create, ever in the history of the planet.

00:49:30.000 And the Chinese Communist Party is continuing the tradition of Mao.

00:49:34.000 But what's so incredible is how few people actually know what has happened in China.

00:49:40.000 And that's just one example.

00:49:41.000 We can go to Castro's Cuba.

00:49:43.000 And the thing that pains me the most, I got to be honest with you, when I go speak down in Miami and I'm greeted by 70 and 80-year-old Cubans that fled the Cuban Revolution, right?

00:49:54.000 That fled Castro's Cuba.

00:49:56.000 And they have tears in their eyes.

00:49:58.000 And they're saying, I fled the gunfire.

00:50:01.000 I barely made it out.

00:50:03.000 And now my grandkid is trying to tell me how great socialism is.

00:50:06.000 Think about that.

00:50:08.000 So you have grandparents that almost died under this ideology, seeing their grandkids tell them that they're wrong.

00:50:16.000 Whoa.

00:50:18.000 And I could get into socialism and how people say, well, I'm a Christian Marxist.

00:50:22.000 I'm like, no, you're not.

00:50:23.000 You pick one or the other, okay?

00:50:25.000 It violates two out of the ten commandments.

00:50:27.000 It's a belief in no private property.

00:50:28.000 Human beings are good.

00:50:29.000 Abolishing the church, abolishing what we know is decent society.

00:50:33.000 So pick one, okay?

00:50:34.000 You can't be both.

00:50:34.000 Let's just be honest.

00:50:35.000 You can't be a Christian Marxist. 0.79

00:50:36.000 Like, no. 0.86

00:50:37.000 And if you think you could be inherently contradictory, that's fine.

00:50:40.000 Just don't pretend that you could express both.

00:50:44.000 And so the 20th century could be a learning lesson for us.

00:50:47.000 They try to group people on immutable characteristics, things you can't control, like skin color or race.

00:50:52.000 We know that all throughout the 20th century.

00:50:54.000 They promise utopia, even though they know they can never deliver it.

00:50:57.000 They divide people at all costs.

00:50:59.000 They assume power in times of crisis, always.

00:51:02.000 Whenever there's a crisis, they try to get more power.

00:51:04.000 Sound familiar.

00:51:05.000 They attack and persecute the church.

00:51:07.000 And so some people come after me and they say, Charlie, it'll never happen here. 0.96

00:51:09.000 And I say, my goodness, that's one of the most foolish things I could possibly hear.

00:51:12.000 What is the guarantee and the promise that tyranny can't come here? 0.87

00:51:15.000 It's already here.

00:51:16.000 I mean, we are locking pastors up in prison because they remain open and cannabis distributors can just stay wide open.

00:51:22.000 And so the question is this: the only Constitution allows for the framework for this, and here's where I'll close: is what are Christians going to do about it?

00:51:32.000 That's the question.

00:51:33.000 Now, if our answer is nothing, then okay.

00:51:36.000 Then find a place that will be unaffected by this widespread tyranny and hope it doesn't come for you.

00:51:43.000 I don't think that's the moral thing to do, actually.

00:51:46.000 I think that's actually incredibly selfish, immoral, and against the Great Commission.

00:51:50.000 I think the opposite is actually what you should do.

00:51:52.000 Get right into the fight and defend the innocent.

00:51:55.000 Get right into the fight and defend dialogue and speech, to defend the freedom of expression of all people, to actually get into those uncomfortable conversations and discussions and those political, you know, type of, let's just say, races or involvements, whatever it is, voting, engagement, knowing who stands for what.

00:52:13.000 And people are like, well, politics doesn't, politics, I don't like it.

00:52:15.000 Well, it affects you whether you like it or not, okay?

00:52:18.000 I mean, whether you think you can be above it, you're wrong.

00:52:20.000 The most important thing you can do in your life is accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

00:52:24.000 The second thing is to make sure you can do the first, right?

00:52:27.000 And now millions of people aren't able to do that.

00:52:30.000 You know, I get messages from people, and I praise God, my podcast has grown, of people that say, Charlie, I live in Michigan, and I love your podcast.

00:52:38.000 And I've been dealing with some tough issues, and I need to go to a church, but I can't because they're all closed.

00:52:45.000 What do I do?

00:52:46.000 And I think to myself, those pastors that don't remain open in Michigan to communicate to that young man who wants to find Jesus, you are not spreading the gospel.

00:52:54.000 You are pandering to earthly authority.

00:52:57.000 You are disobeying the Great Commission because there are millions of young people.

00:53:00.000 In a time like this, the church should be more open than ever before.

00:53:03.000 Do you know that we have twice as many people that are addicted now to substances than before the shutdown?

00:53:09.000 Suicide rates are up sometimes 400% in certain parts of the country.

00:53:13.000 Marital abuse, spousal abuse, sexual violence, every metric you have for a decaying society is up.

00:53:19.000 Every single one.

00:53:22.000 Cocaine usage.

00:53:23.000 And I'm sure you guys know very well opioid addiction in this part of the country, which Washington, D.C. has decided isn't a top-tier issue.

00:53:29.000 They just have turned a blind eye to this part of the country.

00:53:32.000 And it's just beyond irritating that they then come on their horse and they say, oh, you all have white privilege.

00:53:36.000 Like, you want to go to an opioid clinic down the street?

00:53:39.000 And you tell me how much white privilege is in Maine?

00:53:40.000 It just drives me absolutely off the wall.

00:53:43.000 And I've seen the suffering that it's done to your communities.

00:53:45.000 And it's completely colorblind. 0.85

00:53:47.000 I can tell you that.

00:53:48.000 The opioid crisis is completely colorblind.

00:53:50.000 It affects all people of all sorts of backgrounds.

00:53:53.000 And so that's the question we have to have: are decent and reasonable people going to stand up? 0.95

00:53:58.000 Are Christians going to stand up? 0.92

00:53:59.000 What does standing up look like? 1.00

00:54:00.000 Number one, get extremely micro, as micro as you can get.

00:54:05.000 Find one person you know that is acting like a tyrant and stand up to them.

00:54:09.000 One person.

00:54:10.000 Find one person you know that is using their influence or power to exploit the innocent or the weak and find a way to stand up to them.

00:54:16.000 How do you stand up to them?

00:54:17.000 Dialogue.

00:54:18.000 That's what Christ did.

00:54:19.000 Dialogue is the way that God gave us to peacefully be able to express truth.

00:54:24.000 What is dialogue?

00:54:25.000 Get your words right.

00:54:26.000 Look at them in the white of their eyes.

00:54:28.000 Tell them confidently and compassionately, like Christ did in front of the Pharisees, and speak truth.

00:54:33.000 That's what you do.

00:54:34.000 That's hard.

00:54:35.000 You know what's easier?

00:54:36.000 It's easier to do a Facebook post than not look at the comments.

00:54:39.000 It's easier.

00:54:41.000 It's harder to go up to the tyrant and look at them in the eyes.

00:54:43.000 It's harder to go up to the person who's doing the oppressing and say what you're doing is wrong.

00:54:48.000 And you know exactly who that is, think in your own life.

00:54:51.000 The person right now that is bullying, the person right now that is saying that you're not welcome in my home because of X, Y, Z, Z, because of your ideology or belief or all this.

00:54:59.000 And if you haven't found that person, you will.

00:55:02.000 You will.

00:55:02.000 Now, I'm not saying that you get nasty with them.

00:55:04.000 That is not what I'm saying.

00:55:06.000 In fact, the best thing you could do is actually show love to them, but be very clear with truth.

00:55:10.000 And especially those that wish to suppress opposite opinion.

00:55:13.000 Number two, what you can do, however seriously you take the education of your kids, double it.

00:55:18.000 Because that is the most prized possession we have in our country right now is our young people.

00:55:23.000 And they are being propagandized, and they are being honestly, they are victims of predator behavior from the secular humanists.

00:55:33.000 They really are.

00:55:34.000 Through every single mass media circuit, Hollywood, you name it, they are teaching things that are so malevolent and pernicious that some of you would be even amazed if you saw some of the stuff that is being taught to our kids. 0.85

00:55:45.000 In fact, one of the unintended godly consequences of shutdown is that parents are actually seeing the garbage that their kids are learning all day long.

00:55:51.000 I mean, I have gotten probably 50,000 different messages on social media of people that are like, I had no idea my kid was learning this stuff.

00:55:58.000 I'm like, well, that's at least that's an unintended consequence of this stuff, right?

00:56:04.000 And the last thing is this, and I don't love saying this, but everything you do should reflect your worldview.

00:56:09.000 There's no place now that should be absent of what you believe, how you vote, what you do, everything.

00:56:14.000 And I think every single Christian needs to vote.

00:56:16.000 I am not going to tell you how to vote here, but I think it should be pretty obvious that you should vote for the unborn, religious liberty, freedom of expression, and not turning our entire country into a Marxist wasteland.

00:56:26.000 I think you can make your own decisions, right?

00:56:28.000 So, I know I'm getting the yank here, but look, I'm going to keep on fighting.

00:56:37.000 I'm going to college campuses.

00:56:38.000 I'm going to as many churches as I can.

00:56:40.000 Why do I go to churches?

00:56:41.000 I go out to my, I'm in Maine, I'm in Michigan next week speaking in a church.

00:56:44.000 The church must become active, activist Christians for truth.

00:56:49.000 If Christians rise up, you can save this republic.

00:56:51.000 Ben Franklin said, if you can keep it, I believe the only way we keep it is with Christians standing boldly. 1.00

00:56:57.000 You will be repudiated.

00:56:59.000 You will be mocked. 0.97

00:57:00.000 You will be ridiculed.

00:57:01.000 That's why you have ecclesia, so you can have camaraderie with you guys and then go forth and then you gather again.

00:57:07.000 And then you go forth, and then you gather again, and then you go forth.

00:57:09.000 You see, that's why we gather physically, right?

00:57:12.000 That's why they want to get rid of that.

00:57:14.000 So you stop being bold.

00:57:15.000 So you stop standing for true, for what is true and what is right and what is good in the world.

00:57:19.000 As Paul said, whatsoever is true.

00:57:22.000 And so when you get a little bit down, you come back on Sunday and you hear from Pastor Ken and you see your friends, and then you go back and you fight, and you contest again.

00:57:29.000 That's what you do.

00:57:31.000 And the last thing I'll say, final close.

00:57:34.000 Optimistic point. 0.99

00:57:35.000 These people are actually cowards. 0.98

00:57:38.000 These people are actually unable to deal with truth. 0.99

00:57:43.000 They run away from it intentionally.

00:57:45.000 These people need Jesus.

00:57:47.000 You can deliver it to them.

00:57:49.000 But Jesus is truth, logos.

00:57:51.000 He didn't just say true things.

00:57:52.000 He was truth. 1.00

00:57:53.000 You say things that are true and you say truth, they cripple. 1.00

00:57:57.000 They do not know how to deal with that.

00:57:59.000 That's why they don't like dialogue, because they have nothing to say.

00:58:04.000 That's why they want to shut you up, because they know they might actually have to hear something that is true, and their entire world that is built on a false idol might crumble.

00:58:12.000 Stand for truth, fight more than ever before.

00:58:14.000 It's a republic, if we can keep it.

00:58:16.000 Thank you, guys.

00:58:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 21, 2020

Culture, Christianity Inc. and the Fight of Our Lives for Western Civilization

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