The Charlie Kirk Show - D.C. Draino and the Deadly Russian Space Weapon

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show: Russian space missiles, the rise of a social media check-in balance on the nonsense.

00:00:08.000 DC Drano, Rogan O'Hanley, joins us.

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00:00:16.000 Also, what is happening in Fulton County?

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00:01:31.000 If you just watch the mainstream networks, you are supposed to get very afraid.

00:01:36.000 You're supposed to be very scared that Russia might attack you.

00:01:41.000 That the Death Star is being built, that you might be obliterated from space for Russian space missiles.

00:01:49.000 The pusher of this was a guy by the name of Mike Turner, who is a neocon.

00:01:54.000 He's never met a war he doesn't want to cheer for.

00:01:57.000 He just said, I got briefed on something and it's of imminent national security risk.

00:02:01.000 Oh, really?

00:02:02.000 What is it, Mike Turner?

00:02:04.000 Well, help us to help us unpack this is Rogan O'Hanley, otherwise known as DC Draino, one of the most important voices on the right.

00:02:13.000 Rogan, welcome to the program.

00:02:14.000 Rogan, you did a great job yesterday really debunking this and going through who is Mike Turner?

00:02:20.000 What does he want?

00:02:21.000 Walk us through it, Rogan.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, so I saw the breaking news on Twitter that Mike Turner had an urgent request of the Biden administration to declassify information that had to do with national security.

00:02:37.000 They just learned about it.

00:02:38.000 You know, he's in the Gang of Eight, a very elite group of intelligence hearing representatives in Congress.

00:02:47.000 And so my initial instinct was: wait, Mike Turner is a rhino.

00:02:52.000 If this has to do with the border, then I'm listening because that would make sense.

00:02:56.000 Terrorism coming across the border.

00:02:58.000 But then we learned it had to do with Russia.

00:03:00.000 And I'm like, okay, this is, they just passed the Senate bill, $60 billion.

00:03:05.000 And two days later, we get Mike Turner crying wolf about Russia space weapons.

00:03:12.000 And then we also find out he was just in Ukraine last week meeting with Zelensky.

00:03:19.000 So he's primed to get ready and send over that $60 billion.

00:03:23.000 But I will say to Speaker Johnson's credit, he came out and said there is no reason for alarm and there will probably be no funding sent to Ukraine as he's continued that trend for the last few months.

00:03:36.000 So what was the threat he was saying?

00:03:38.000 And is there any truth to this?

00:03:40.000 Right.

00:03:41.000 So the threat as we know it exists right now is that Russia may have developed or may be activating their capability to use nuclear weapons in space, launched potentially from satellites or other space vehicles.

00:03:57.000 And what was kind of interesting is that almost immediately after Mike Turner raised the alarm, three other members of the House Intel Committee reported anonymously to the media that, listen, is there a concern long term?

00:04:13.000 Yes.

00:04:14.000 Is it a quote, today concern?

00:04:16.000 No.

00:04:17.000 And a lot of people, to their credit, you know, I think before Twitter, before Instagram, Facebook, we probably would have fell hook line and sinker for this type of fear mongering.

00:04:27.000 Hey, they got weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

00:04:30.000 We got to go in there.

00:04:31.000 You know, it was that type of vibe.

00:04:32.000 But to a lot of people's credit, I'd say over 90% of the big voices on social media called this out for what it is.

00:04:39.000 And it's frankly, it's an abuse of power by Mike Turner.

00:04:43.000 And so that's a super smart point, Rogan.

00:04:43.000 Yeah.

00:04:45.000 Let's dive into that.

00:04:46.000 And I think COVID really was the radicalizing moment for so many people to question and to not take the narrative.

00:04:53.000 And it has started this multi-year journey that many of us have been on and some were on beforehand.

00:04:59.000 You certainly were, and I was, but COVID was an accelerant for me.

00:05:03.000 But for just regular, everyday people, that to not believe exactly what you're told, to look a level deeper, to also question the motives of who is communicating it.

00:05:13.000 Talk more about that because we're seeing a conservative base that is harder and harder to take advantage of.

00:05:22.000 Yeah.

00:05:23.000 And we obviously have to take seriously any legitimate national security concerns to the homeland.

00:05:30.000 But what COVID did, you brought up a very good point.

00:05:33.000 COVID showed that our government on both sides, frankly, will push fear to will hyperbolize fear to push an agenda.

00:05:45.000 And the agenda often has to do with tens of billions of dollars being funneled to politically connected insiders.

00:05:51.000 During COVID, it was big pharma.

00:05:54.000 During Ukraine, it is now the military-industrial complex.

00:05:58.000 Someone had a great tweet.

00:05:59.000 I think it was David Sachs.

00:06:01.000 Putin is the new COVID, right?

00:06:03.000 So they're trying to fear monger about Putin so that we can send money over to a war that has been largely in a stalemate for the last year and has done nothing except obliterate tens, if not hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians for what?

00:06:19.000 You know, so it clearly is a money laundering operation, and this was the next phase.

00:06:24.000 So we have a diverse audience generationally here, Rogan.

00:06:27.000 We have people in their teens, also people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s that I want to make sure they understand.

00:06:33.000 And I want, because you've been a pioneer in this regard.

00:06:36.000 Can you talk about this new decentralized ecosystem that exists of, you know, you and I text maybe, you know, a couple times a month, maybe.

00:06:44.000 We're not actually organizing our messaging.

00:06:47.000 However, it's amazing how symmetrical our messaging becomes.

00:06:52.000 And can you talk, it's a new phenomenon.

00:06:54.000 It is a real check and balance on CBS, ABC, NBC, and the New York Times.

00:07:00.000 It's profound and it's only increasing in its potency.

00:07:05.000 Can you help explain that?

00:07:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:07:07.000 I mean, as we've seen with CNN, MS, NBC, Forbes, Sports Illustrated, they're cutting their journalist departments by 30, 40, 50, sometimes 100%.

00:07:17.000 BuzzFeed News doesn't even exist anymore.

00:07:19.000 Meanwhile, independent media, people like you and me and Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum and, you know, those people that post their thoughts, commentary, and news on social media have been exploding in growth.

00:07:35.000 I mean, your growth alone has been just monumental.

00:07:40.000 You've got probably over 10 million followers combined.

00:07:43.000 I mean, that's significant when you think of the most popular nightly primetime news show when it was Tucker, it was an audience of roughly 3 million.

00:07:52.000 So if you have these independent voices that are able to reach at any given moment 5, 10, 20 million people, depending on how viral their information is, that's a very powerful weapon.

00:08:03.000 And that's why the censorship apparatus is so pervasive.

00:08:08.000 But I think you're picking up on a new phenomenon, which is that we now have free speech on X, which was formerly known as Twitter.

00:08:17.000 And so in the marketplace of ideas, which is how a functioning constitutional republic is supposed to work, the best ideas rise to the surface.

00:08:27.000 And a lot of people, you know, we don't have big fancy budgets pushing our thoughts out there.

00:08:32.000 These are our raw, organic assessments.

00:08:36.000 And I think the reason why a lot of people follow us and support us is because we have nothing, we have no agenda.

00:08:46.000 It's just to put the truth out there.

00:08:48.000 And we believe in fighting for this country and saving this country from the deep state.

00:08:52.000 And that's why they're so scared of this.

00:08:55.000 That's why they're trying to censor us.

00:08:57.000 The pen is mightier than the sword.

00:08:59.000 Yeah, I want to keep talking about this, Rogan.

00:09:00.000 And I think I first met you at an NRA convention, if I'm not mistaken.

00:09:05.000 It was 2018, the summer of 18, something like that, in Dallas, six years ago.

00:09:10.000 And your platform was a fraction of what it is now.

00:09:13.000 But you were really one of the pioneers, specifically on Instagram.

00:09:16.000 You saw the power of Instagram.

00:09:18.000 And I'm just kind of drawing from memory here to be able to get different narratives and different ideas into the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times.

00:09:28.000 And I just want everyone to understand this is a huge point of optimism is that you're not, it is going to possibly take years, maybe five or 10 years for it truly to crescendo and to manifest politically.

00:09:42.000 But the left online is failing versus the right, despite the left having almost no issues with social media banning.

00:09:51.000 They get promoted, they get astroturfed.

00:09:54.000 They have tons of money behind them.

00:09:56.000 But if you look across the board at the most successful tweets, the most successful Instagram posts, the most successful Instagram accounts, person for person, mono a mono, absent Hollywood celebrities, which is a separate issue, we obliterate the left-wing influencer community.

00:10:12.000 They're astroturfed.

00:10:13.000 They are synthetic.

00:10:14.000 Their arguments don't resonate.

00:10:16.000 They're rooted in just complaining and they're shallow, where the right is thoughtful, is winsome, is funny, is interesting.

00:10:25.000 This is a very important topic.

00:10:26.000 I want to keep talking about Rogan.

00:10:28.000 And it's not, again, it's not going to be felt immediately, but it is a canary in the coal mine.

00:10:33.000 It is, hey, buy the stock and hold because it is a leading indicator that we eventually can and will win majority opinion in this country.

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00:12:41.000 Whoever this new guy is is excellent with Nathan Wade.

00:12:45.000 He is getting down to the bottom of it.

00:12:46.000 It is terrific.

00:12:48.000 Said, oh, what'd you do with the cash?

00:12:49.000 Oh, I didn't deposit it.

00:12:50.000 I just keep it around.

00:12:52.000 What are you like?

00:12:53.000 Bob Menendez, you got gold bars everywhere.

00:12:55.000 All right, Rogan O'Hanley continues with us.

00:12:59.000 Rogan, it's harder and harder for the bad guys to lie.

00:13:02.000 And, you know, I just want to make sure we emphasize this.

00:13:06.000 We have no idea how November is going to end up.

00:13:08.000 I certainly hope Donald Trump is successful, but it's a mystery.

00:13:11.000 Things are looking good, but who knows?

00:13:13.000 How significant is it if we, if X and Twitter remain an open platform versus the 2020 debacle?

00:13:22.000 Well, I'm going to add some optimism to your optimism, okay?

00:13:26.000 Because this is going to be the first national presidential election where we've had free speech.

00:13:31.000 If you remember, Elon took over X after the midterm elections and right before it, but he didn't change anything really in terms of free speech guidelines.

00:13:41.000 He kind of gave the Democrats that one.

00:13:44.000 This is going to be the first true test.

00:13:46.000 And as we saw in 2020, just days before the presidential election, social media completely suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:13:55.000 And the data after the election showed that somewhere between 10 to 18% of people would have changed their votes if they knew how corrupt the Biden crime family is.

00:14:05.000 So that alone is huge.

00:14:06.000 And we'll see if he actually sticks to it.

00:14:09.000 But here's the optimism on top of your optimism.

00:14:12.000 The Supreme Court right now is sitting on at least four First Amendment cases that will be the most significant First Amendment decisions in 50 years, right?

00:14:22.000 So we've got the Florida versus NetChoice and Texas versus NetChoice laws, where they said you cannot, as social media companies, discriminate against conservatives, basically.

00:14:34.000 And those are reached the Supreme Court.

00:14:36.000 We've got Missouri v. Biden, which is now Murthy v. Biden, where the Biden regime was messaging social media and telling them to take down certain vaccine accounts and information.

00:14:46.000 We've got NRA versus Vulo, which is where the New York state regulatory agency reached out to insurance companies and said, do not insure NRA.

00:14:58.000 And then they didn't because they wanted to suffocate their business and the NRA sued.

00:15:02.000 And then we also have my case, O'Hanley v. Weber, which is being held by the Supreme Court, has not been granted cert.

00:15:08.000 But I was banned off Twitter for two years.

00:15:11.000 And then we found emails from the California government targeting me being sent to Twitter saying Rogan O'Hanley, DC Draino is spreading election misinformation.

00:15:21.000 I was criticizing the 2020 election and I was banned.

00:15:24.000 We caught him red-handed.

00:15:25.000 That's a First Amendment issue.

00:15:25.000 It's the government.

00:15:27.000 So those at least four or five cases are going to be ruled on by June or July of this year.

00:15:33.000 And I have a feeling at least 60 to 70% of those decisions are going to fall in our favor.

00:15:39.000 And it's going to stop the censorship apparatus in its tracks.

00:15:44.000 Rogan, I want you to just mention, because you've been really vocal on this, Speaker Johnson, he has a lot of opportunities ahead of him.

00:15:51.000 I complimented him yesterday on social media.

00:15:53.000 How should we think about how Speaker Johnson is doing in the opportunity ahead of him?

00:16:00.000 I would give him a C minus thus far, whereas McCarthy, I'd give an F.

00:16:06.000 Okay, so it's an improvement, but there's still a lot of room for improvement.

00:16:11.000 To his credit, he has stopped any more tens of billions of dollars being sent to Ukraine, which is purely money laundering.

00:16:19.000 But he has failed to close the border.

00:16:23.000 He has not passed single-issue spending bills.

00:16:27.000 He's kicked the can with these short-term CRs, but he has held Maorkis accountable, right?

00:16:34.000 We just got an impeachment, the first cabinet-level impeachment vote since 1876.

00:16:39.000 We held Rashida Tlaib accountable with the censor vote.

00:16:46.000 And, you know, there are some other things in the pipeline. 0.98

00:16:48.000 So room for improvement.

00:16:51.000 He was dumped into what is probably an impossible situation, and he is fighting his way out.

00:16:57.000 But, you know, I'm cautiously optimistic.

00:17:01.000 He still holds the line on the Ukraine spending, but we need to get DC spending under control.

00:17:08.000 It is the most important thing.

00:17:10.000 And second to that, I would say, is the border.

00:17:12.000 And he has to start flexing his power.

00:17:15.000 And my little pet project is 702.

00:17:18.000 We can't allow that to keep on getting reauthorized.

00:17:21.000 Yes.

00:17:21.000 And look, if it means a 90-day extension, okay, I'll just roll my eyes.

00:17:26.000 You can't do this decade.

00:17:27.000 They want to give him a whole other decade.

00:17:29.000 That is completely and totally outrageous.

00:17:32.000 So, Rogan, great work.

00:17:33.000 DC Draino, is that your call sign everywhere?

00:17:36.000 Yep.

00:17:38.000 Thank you, Charlie, for having me on.

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00:18:58.000 Joining us now is a terrific guest, great man, great American, Vernon Jones, former DeKalb.

00:19:03.000 I think I said that right.

00:19:04.000 County executive.

00:19:05.000 Did I say that right, Vernon?

00:19:07.000 You did, Charlie.

00:19:08.000 Vernon, I know you're fired up about this.

00:19:08.000 You did.

00:19:10.000 We have some of the tape to play here.

00:19:12.000 This is, there's so many layers to this, but just riff a little bit.

00:19:16.000 What is going on today in Fulton County?

00:19:18.000 A circus is really a mess.

00:19:20.000 It's a web, Charlie.

00:19:22.000 I think you, me, and everybody else, American people who've been looking at this here.

00:19:26.000 And forgive me, by the way, because my boss is, of course, have been going different weather zones, but this is plain and simple.

00:19:34.000 Was there a conflict of interest involving the DA, her boyfriend, who's one of the special prosecutors in this Trump whole RICO case?

00:19:43.000 And it has come out by one of the the uh um indicted um persons lawyer that there was a conflict of interest, that this Da is benefiting with her boyfriend by paying her her boyfriend taxpayers dollars and it's been spent on her and lavish trips.

00:20:02.000 And today it's a hearing where the boyfriend, and who's also the special prosecutor, is on the stand right now as you and I speak um and they are trying to determine when did he have, or he, started his relationship with this young lady, the Da.

00:20:17.000 He's saying after they he became our special prosecutor.

00:20:21.000 But the other defendant's lawyer, Miss Merchant, is saying no, it happened before then, so he lied and they lied in their motion to squash the subpoena to testify.

00:20:31.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:20:33.000 I I believe Nathan Wade is lying.

00:20:35.000 I don't think he was paid cash by Fannie Willis.

00:20:39.000 It's a great cop-out and, to the cross-examiner's credit, he's asking the right questions. 0.99

00:20:44.000 Let's play cut 115. 0.92

00:20:46.000 Miss Willis uh, paid you in cash all the money for the entire trip.

00:20:51.000 That was a gift for you for your birthday, correct?

00:20:53.000 Yes sir, and i'm sure you probably have the deposit slips where you took the cash and deposited the cash into your account, don't you?

00:21:01.000 I did not deposit the cash in my account.

00:21:03.000 You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs Willis in cash, do you?

00:21:15.000 No sir, not a single solitary one, not a one.

00:21:19.000 He's getting a little smug there, Vernon.

00:21:22.000 He's getting a little bit, you know, let's just say prideful, dare I say.

00:21:26.000 Well, I think he's confident.

00:21:27.000 I think he's telling truth in his answer in terms of he did he, he did not deposit that money in the account.

00:21:34.000 Well, I don't believe he ever received 3 500 cash from his stars.

00:21:39.000 That's why I think he sounds so.

00:21:42.000 I think uh if, if he did receive 3500 you and I both know that the da is not walking around with just 3500 cash on her then she would have gotten it out her account.

00:21:52.000 So let's look at her bank account and let's look at the date and time she made that cash withdrawal, and then I think that can tell you whether or not he's selling truth or she's telling the truth.

00:22:01.000 That's why it's so important she take the stand as well and we hear from her.

00:22:05.000 I totally agree.

00:22:06.000 And, by the way, they could subpoena bank records too.

00:22:09.000 Right, I mean, we?

00:22:10.000 This is, if you were a liar and if you knew that you were caught, what excuse would you give?

00:22:16.000 You would say that it was done via cash, so there's no track record.

00:22:22.000 But there is a track record.

00:22:23.000 At some point the cash has to come from somewhere.

00:22:26.000 And, by the way, there's another suspicious thing that Nathan Wade said and I don't want to play, you know, too much humor into this, but he said, oh I, I have all sorts of different sorts of cash deposits because I have different jobs.

00:22:36.000 Really I, I don't know, lawyers get paid in cash.

00:22:38.000 Vernon, that's interesting.

00:22:39.000 There's only very, there's very few industries that get paid in cash, and they're not always the most uh, let's say, mainstream.

00:22:47.000 Well, I think what you've seen happen over the years uh, not only that, and even purchasing homes you can only like at a closing you can only give Of a certain dollar amount in cash.

00:22:57.000 You can't go over a certain threshold because it was money laundering.

00:23:00.000 It was perceived as money laundering.

00:23:02.000 So, but it should be easy to determine.

00:23:04.000 And we know that the DA does not get paid in cash. 0.95

00:23:07.000 She gets paid by the state. 0.87

00:23:08.000 She had no other job. 0.99

00:23:09.000 She can't have any other jobs. 0.68

00:23:11.000 And so you should be able to see where the DA withdrew out of her account $3,500 unless she says, Oh, well, a cousin just gave me $3,500 cash.

00:23:20.000 But let's see where they got their cash from.

00:23:22.000 So I think that's what we need to hold, Charlie.

00:23:26.000 Not until this testimony did we know how she paid.

00:23:30.000 We thought it was just a regular reimbursement when he said it was reimbursed.

00:23:33.000 This is the first time we heard the term cash.

00:23:36.000 And let me tell you, this is gonna, this is another opening in this case.

00:23:40.000 It's an opening, and the lies eventually will catch up to them, right?

00:23:44.000 So they're trying to lie and to cover their tracks.

00:23:47.000 And we should keep it.

00:23:49.000 I mean, at my gut instinct level, I know that there is no cash paid.

00:23:52.000 I mean, come on.

00:23:53.000 They're using this as a way to try to cover up. 0.84

00:23:55.000 They're trying to be cute.

00:23:58.000 All right, let's play cut 117, please.

00:24:01.000 Legalistic-centric and yet so important and fascinating.

00:24:06.000 Right.

00:24:06.000 Don't let the legalese fool you.

00:24:08.000 This is epic.

00:24:09.000 This is monumental.

00:24:10.000 If things are going in the direction we think, Fonnie Willis lied to the court.

00:24:15.000 It's game over for her. 0.99

00:24:17.000 She will be disqualified if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court.

00:24:24.000 It's a huge deal.

00:24:25.000 I can't overstate it.

00:24:26.000 That's MSNBC, Vernon.

00:24:28.000 That's MSNBC.

00:24:29.000 I want to emphasize before even the bank records, what they're talking about is a technical lie, perjury, that the whole ballgame is over according to MSNBC.

00:24:40.000 They claim that their relationship started in 2022, but in reality, it predated back to 2019.

00:24:47.000 Vernon Jones.

00:24:48.000 Charlie, when I first heard them filing a motion, meaning the fan of Willis with the testimony of Wade, that they gave a specific date when their relationship started.

00:25:01.000 I knew right then that was going to be a problem because more than likely, Merchant, Ashley Merchant, the defendant's attorney, already knew that that relationship had started before then and had that witness on hand because she did more of a drip, drip, drip, as opposed to letting all of her evidence out.

00:25:19.000 And so that was the counter.

00:25:21.000 When they said that that particular date, they marked the date when that relationship started.

00:25:25.000 I knew that was a problem.

00:25:26.000 Today, you can see that's a problem.

00:25:28.000 If they determine that they lied there, and furthermore, what is this determination that they lied about the cash?

00:25:28.000 And you're right.

00:25:35.000 Officers of the court cannot lie to the court. 0.99

00:25:38.000 She's a district attorney.

00:25:39.000 He's taking an oath under the district attorney's office.

00:25:42.000 So he's acting as an officer of the court.

00:25:44.000 You cannot lie to the courts, especially if you're a district attorney or special prosecutor.

00:25:50.000 And so what does that do?

00:25:51.000 They go to the heart of them and their judgment and whether or not they're lying about a lot of other things.

00:25:55.000 So guess what? 0.98

00:25:56.000 That's grounds for the judge to disqualify her, disqualify her, and they may be such as lose their bar license. 1.00

00:26:03.000 Yeah.

00:26:03.000 And by the way, does that mean that the case itself falls apart?

00:26:07.000 I mean, at the very least, it would be a delay and a victory for Donald Trump.

00:26:11.000 Here's what I think would happen in that case.

00:26:13.000 Just like, remember, there's a precedence already set on her being disqualified in this whole RICO case.

00:26:19.000 You remember the lieutenant governor, she wanted to subpoena him. 0.57

00:26:22.000 She wanted to indict him.

00:26:24.000 He was able to file a motion.

00:26:25.000 The judge tossed it because she held a fundraiser for his opponent not long before then.

00:26:31.000 So that was caused because she was disqualified, the conflict of interest.

00:26:34.000 That pattern is there.

00:26:36.000 So if that happens now, you're going to, as a matter of fact, not only was she qualified, her entire office was qualified.

00:26:41.000 And right now, a judicial, I should say, a prosecutor counsel is looking on appointing someone else to go further that case.

00:26:50.000 They can't find anybody because nobody wants to touch it.

00:26:52.000 Now, in this particular case, if she disqualified can be her, her entire office, it's going to go back to that same prosecutorial counsel, and they got to try to find what DA would take this case.

00:27:03.000 And I can tell you, you're not going to find a DA and want to put their hands on this, and this thing is going to die of a slow death.

00:27:08.000 So, Vernon, let's talk just some of the politics in Georgia.

00:27:11.000 It's mission critical that Donald Trump wins the state of Georgia.

00:27:14.000 How does this impact the politics going into November?

00:27:18.000 Initially, it seemed as if this was going to be a distraction or potentially an impediment or a negative for Donald Trump.

00:27:25.000 This is turning, I think, into a positive.

00:27:27.000 It looks as if a local DA where there's lots of crime and lots of gang activity that really needs to be focused on and a lot of stuff that needs to really be sorted out.

00:27:37.000 How they're distracting with this ridiculous case.

00:27:40.000 How does this play out politically in your estimation?

00:27:42.000 Well, I think this just adds to the case that President Trump is going to take Georgia.

00:27:47.000 Now, because of Biden's actions, or maybe I should say inactions, that's going to help the president win Georgia.

00:27:54.000 He's already leading in Georgia.

00:27:55.000 This is going to be a big stinger because they thought that this would put Trump in jail.

00:28:00.000 I think it's going to put Trump in jail, get him off the ballot, this and that.

00:28:04.000 And then there's another factor here.

00:28:06.000 The black male vote is trending here in Georgia and it's trending towards Trump.

00:28:11.000 And so with just a 5% move of the black vote here, Trump is going to win Georgia even by a greater margin. 0.63

00:28:19.000 Yeah, so let's talk more about that.

00:28:20.000 What is behind that?

00:28:21.000 And even if that moves 2% or 3%, it changes the whole ballgame.

00:28:25.000 And, you know, you've been doing some great work, Vernon, in Georgia to really hit the grassroots.

00:28:29.000 Just so everyone understands, for all new voter registrations, there's 1.5 to 1 ratio of new Republican to Democrats like clockwork right now in Georgia.

00:28:37.000 So it's actually even becoming redder than it was in 2020.

00:28:42.000 And so the table is really set for Donald Trump to win back the state of Georgia.

00:28:46.000 What do you attribute that change in the black community to?

00:28:50.000 Very simple, Charlie.

00:28:51.000 Just like in the white community, is your life better off now under Joe Biden versus when you were under President Trump's administration?

00:28:59.000 When you look at what interest rates are now, 7%, going back to President Trump's interest rates on his time or term, it was around 3%, 3.5.

00:29:08.000 When you look at a cost of a gallon of gas or a gallon of milk or a dozen of eggs, it's much more now than it was back then.

00:29:14.000 Inflation has driven up the cost of goods and services, and it was better under the Trump administration.

00:29:20.000 And so when you look at that and when you really try to look at Joe Biden having an open board of bringing illegals in here, and they're taking away resource and the actual cash in some mines and giving it to a group of people who never live in this country, you have veterans living under bridges.

00:29:38.000 You have others who we have other communities that can use those dollars to revitalize their communities.

00:29:44.000 It's like, why?

00:29:45.000 America's not first.

00:29:46.000 America's last. 0.86

00:29:48.000 The terrorists are first because they have a lot of terrorists coming in here.

00:29:51.000 The gangs are coming in here.

00:29:52.000 They're treated first over Americans. 0.98

00:29:54.000 And so those are the things that's contributed to it.

00:29:57.000 And Charlie, people can see Joe Biden, then Joe Biden, his mental capacity. 0.91

00:30:02.000 He's too old. 0.86

00:30:04.000 And I see it as sing abuse like many others.

00:30:07.000 Joe Biden is not running this country.

00:30:09.000 The threat from around the world, the wars that we're engaged in now, all the money going to these foreign countries and could be coming here.

00:30:15.000 That's what people are making a decision about, Charlie.

00:30:17.000 And that's how President Trump is going to win Georgia.

00:30:22.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:31:24.000 Vernon, I want to hit this BLM story.

00:31:27.000 You responded to our tweet yesterday.

00:31:30.000 BLM's PAC spent $0 on candidates, $0 on election activities in 2023, but it spent 61% of its money on consulting fees that went directly to a company owned by its treasurer.

00:31:42.000 You said all of those Black lives should be indicted. 1.00

00:31:45.000 Vernon, elaborate.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, I should have expanded on that.

00:31:49.000 I should have said all those Black lives and all those white lives that was involved and that money being phoned in that manner, they all should have been indicted because of the false pretense. 0.99

00:31:59.000 You know, they got out there and they made this big issue about Black Lives Matter.

00:32:03.000 Well, all lives matter, obviously.

00:32:06.000 But when you see where that money was phoned, it went back even to the founder.

00:32:10.000 And all of a sudden, since Black Lives Matter, but she's living in a million-dollar home in a white community, I guess maybe just her Black life mattered. 0.78

00:32:19.000 I saw these corporate companies and I saw governments pave the street sports companies, sports, I should say, organizations donating money.

00:32:28.000 And where did that money go?

00:32:29.000 That money went to those same individuals who said that Black Lives Matter. 0.86

00:32:35.000 But I think it's a sham of what has happened.

00:32:37.000 I was thinking that way back then, Charlie, not only you, me, and others were always talking about it.

00:32:42.000 When the heart of it was it was more destructive in one hand to the nuclear, the black family. 0.99

00:32:48.000 And at the same time, when you look at a lot of organizations that did get the money, it went to LBGTQ organizations. 0.61

00:32:54.000 And what schools were built as a result of all that money collected?

00:32:57.000 What classes were held?

00:32:59.000 How many kids went to college on scholarships?

00:33:02.000 There should be a full accounting.

00:33:03.000 And yeah, they should be indicted.

00:33:05.000 All of them should be indicted.

00:33:07.000 And by the way, Vernon, imagine if BLM went in and started building charter schools and started to build community centers or anti-violence task forces.

00:33:17.000 Instead, it just was this massive grift.

00:33:19.000 We were told that all this money was going to be spent for black empowerment.

00:33:24.000 Is that, and maybe I'm by no means an expert, is that politically something that could be talked about?

00:33:30.000 I can't imagine, you know, if you live in a, let's just say, a lower-income black neighborhood and you see all this money that was supposed to go to impact your community, is there any built-up resentment around that?

00:33:41.000 Well, clearly, I think there's been built-up resentment among many people.

00:33:46.000 When you look at here's a group that gets out there and gets all this money, but Charlie, you know what?

00:33:50.000 I can't solely blame them and lay it all the bland at their feet.

00:33:54.000 What did these sports organizations, baseball, basketball, what about these private organizations, the banking institutions, all these other groups who donated all this money to them and just gave them money, didn't hold them accountable.

00:34:09.000 So they wouldn't have had money to spend.

00:34:11.000 I know I didn't give it to them.

00:34:12.000 You didn't give it to them.

00:34:13.000 The average grassroots black person didn't give them this money.

00:34:17.000 It came from major corporations, those woke corporations.

00:34:20.000 And so really, they should be held responsible too because they were ones who fed the fire.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, and remember, right in your hometown, Major League Baseball, because of the voting bill that was very vanilla, they canceled the all-star game in downtown Atlanta, which would have been an economic stimulus for black-owned businesses and for black entrepreneurs.

00:34:43.000 They moved it and went to Lily White Denver, all because they didn't like a voting bill.

00:34:49.000 Remember that.

00:34:49.000 Major League Baseball did that.

00:34:51.000 It is one of the great injustices of professional sports in recent memory.

00:34:55.000 Final thoughts, Vernon.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, you're right about that, Charlie.

00:34:58.000 I mean, it was kind of ironic.

00:34:59.000 Matter of fact, Senate Bill 202 did not do anything to vote or suppress anybody.

00:35:04.000 Matter of fact, it made even more available what it did if you were trying to, you couldn't cheat.

00:35:09.000 And you're right.

00:35:09.000 Look, black vendors, white vendors who invested money for the all-star games so they can help their business.

00:35:15.000 Even kids who want to come out and see their famous players, all that was taken from a city or area that's majority African-American out to Denver, Colorado, with a 9% black population.

00:35:26.000 And not only that, New York election laws are much more restrictive than Georgia's election laws.

00:35:31.000 Why didn't Major League Baseball move its headquarters?

00:35:34.000 So there's a lot of land to go around here.

00:35:36.000 We must never forget that.

00:35:37.000 Vernon, keep up the great work.

00:35:38.000 Thank you so much.

00:35:42.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:43.000 Everybody, email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:46.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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