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00:02:23.000Yeah, so I saw the breaking news on Twitter that Mike Turner had an urgent request of the Biden administration to declassify information that had to do with national security.
00:02:58.000But then we learned it had to do with Russia.
00:03:00.000And I'm like, okay, this is, they just passed the Senate bill, $60 billion.
00:03:05.000And two days later, we get Mike Turner crying wolf about Russia space weapons.
00:03:12.000And then we also find out he was just in Ukraine last week meeting with Zelensky.
00:03:19.000So he's primed to get ready and send over that $60 billion.
00:03:23.000But I will say to Speaker Johnson's credit, he came out and said there is no reason for alarm and there will probably be no funding sent to Ukraine as he's continued that trend for the last few months.
00:03:41.000So the threat as we know it exists right now is that Russia may have developed or may be activating their capability to use nuclear weapons in space, launched potentially from satellites or other space vehicles.
00:03:57.000And what was kind of interesting is that almost immediately after Mike Turner raised the alarm, three other members of the House Intel Committee reported anonymously to the media that, listen, is there a concern long term?
00:04:17.000And a lot of people, to their credit, you know, I think before Twitter, before Instagram, Facebook, we probably would have fell hook line and sinker for this type of fear mongering.
00:04:27.000Hey, they got weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
00:04:46.000And I think COVID really was the radicalizing moment for so many people to question and to not take the narrative.
00:04:53.000And it has started this multi-year journey that many of us have been on and some were on beforehand.
00:04:59.000You certainly were, and I was, but COVID was an accelerant for me.
00:05:03.000But for just regular, everyday people, that to not believe exactly what you're told, to look a level deeper, to also question the motives of who is communicating it.
00:05:13.000Talk more about that because we're seeing a conservative base that is harder and harder to take advantage of.
00:06:03.000So they're trying to fear monger about Putin so that we can send money over to a war that has been largely in a stalemate for the last year and has done nothing except obliterate tens, if not hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians for what?
00:06:19.000You know, so it clearly is a money laundering operation, and this was the next phase.
00:06:24.000So we have a diverse audience generationally here, Rogan.
00:06:27.000We have people in their teens, also people in their 60s, 70s, and 80s that I want to make sure they understand.
00:06:33.000And I want, because you've been a pioneer in this regard.
00:06:36.000Can you talk about this new decentralized ecosystem that exists of, you know, you and I text maybe, you know, a couple times a month, maybe.
00:06:44.000We're not actually organizing our messaging.
00:06:47.000However, it's amazing how symmetrical our messaging becomes.
00:06:52.000And can you talk, it's a new phenomenon.
00:06:54.000It is a real check and balance on CBS, ABC, NBC, and the New York Times.
00:07:00.000It's profound and it's only increasing in its potency.
00:07:07.000I mean, as we've seen with CNN, MS, NBC, Forbes, Sports Illustrated, they're cutting their journalist departments by 30, 40, 50, sometimes 100%.
00:07:17.000BuzzFeed News doesn't even exist anymore.
00:07:19.000Meanwhile, independent media, people like you and me and Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum and, you know, those people that post their thoughts, commentary, and news on social media have been exploding in growth.
00:07:35.000I mean, your growth alone has been just monumental.
00:07:40.000You've got probably over 10 million followers combined.
00:07:43.000I mean, that's significant when you think of the most popular nightly primetime news show when it was Tucker, it was an audience of roughly 3 million.
00:07:52.000So if you have these independent voices that are able to reach at any given moment 5, 10, 20 million people, depending on how viral their information is, that's a very powerful weapon.
00:08:03.000And that's why the censorship apparatus is so pervasive.
00:08:08.000But I think you're picking up on a new phenomenon, which is that we now have free speech on X, which was formerly known as Twitter.
00:08:17.000And so in the marketplace of ideas, which is how a functioning constitutional republic is supposed to work, the best ideas rise to the surface.
00:08:27.000And a lot of people, you know, we don't have big fancy budgets pushing our thoughts out there.
00:08:32.000These are our raw, organic assessments.
00:08:36.000And I think the reason why a lot of people follow us and support us is because we have nothing, we have no agenda.
00:09:18.000And I'm just kind of drawing from memory here to be able to get different narratives and different ideas into the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times.
00:09:28.000And I just want everyone to understand this is a huge point of optimism is that you're not, it is going to possibly take years, maybe five or 10 years for it truly to crescendo and to manifest politically.
00:09:42.000But the left online is failing versus the right, despite the left having almost no issues with social media banning.
00:09:51.000They get promoted, they get astroturfed.
00:09:56.000But if you look across the board at the most successful tweets, the most successful Instagram posts, the most successful Instagram accounts, person for person, mono a mono, absent Hollywood celebrities, which is a separate issue, we obliterate the left-wing influencer community.
00:10:28.000And it's not, again, it's not going to be felt immediately, but it is a canary in the coal mine.
00:10:33.000It is, hey, buy the stock and hold because it is a leading indicator that we eventually can and will win majority opinion in this country.
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00:12:41.000Whoever this new guy is is excellent with Nathan Wade.
00:12:45.000He is getting down to the bottom of it.
00:12:53.000Bob Menendez, you got gold bars everywhere.
00:12:55.000All right, Rogan O'Hanley continues with us.
00:12:59.000Rogan, it's harder and harder for the bad guys to lie.
00:13:02.000And, you know, I just want to make sure we emphasize this.
00:13:06.000We have no idea how November is going to end up.
00:13:08.000I certainly hope Donald Trump is successful, but it's a mystery.
00:13:11.000Things are looking good, but who knows?
00:13:13.000How significant is it if we, if X and Twitter remain an open platform versus the 2020 debacle?
00:13:22.000Well, I'm going to add some optimism to your optimism, okay?
00:13:26.000Because this is going to be the first national presidential election where we've had free speech.
00:13:31.000If you remember, Elon took over X after the midterm elections and right before it, but he didn't change anything really in terms of free speech guidelines.
00:13:41.000He kind of gave the Democrats that one.
00:13:44.000This is going to be the first true test.
00:13:46.000And as we saw in 2020, just days before the presidential election, social media completely suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story.
00:13:55.000And the data after the election showed that somewhere between 10 to 18% of people would have changed their votes if they knew how corrupt the Biden crime family is.
00:14:06.000And we'll see if he actually sticks to it.
00:14:09.000But here's the optimism on top of your optimism.
00:14:12.000The Supreme Court right now is sitting on at least four First Amendment cases that will be the most significant First Amendment decisions in 50 years, right?
00:14:22.000So we've got the Florida versus NetChoice and Texas versus NetChoice laws, where they said you cannot, as social media companies, discriminate against conservatives, basically.
00:14:34.000And those are reached the Supreme Court.
00:14:36.000We've got Missouri v. Biden, which is now Murthy v. Biden, where the Biden regime was messaging social media and telling them to take down certain vaccine accounts and information.
00:14:46.000We've got NRA versus Vulo, which is where the New York state regulatory agency reached out to insurance companies and said, do not insure NRA.
00:14:58.000And then they didn't because they wanted to suffocate their business and the NRA sued.
00:15:02.000And then we also have my case, O'Hanley v. Weber, which is being held by the Supreme Court, has not been granted cert.
00:15:08.000But I was banned off Twitter for two years.
00:15:11.000And then we found emails from the California government targeting me being sent to Twitter saying Rogan O'Hanley, DC Draino is spreading election misinformation.
00:15:21.000I was criticizing the 2020 election and I was banned.
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00:19:22.000I think you, me, and everybody else, American people who've been looking at this here.
00:19:26.000And forgive me, by the way, because my boss is, of course, have been going different weather zones, but this is plain and simple.
00:19:34.000Was there a conflict of interest involving the DA, her boyfriend, who's one of the special prosecutors in this Trump whole RICO case?
00:19:43.000And it has come out by one of the the uh um indicted um persons lawyer that there was a conflict of interest, that this Da is benefiting with her boyfriend by paying her her boyfriend taxpayers dollars and it's been spent on her and lavish trips.
00:20:02.000And today it's a hearing where the boyfriend, and who's also the special prosecutor, is on the stand right now as you and I speak um and they are trying to determine when did he have, or he, started his relationship with this young lady, the Da.
00:20:17.000He's saying after they he became our special prosecutor.
00:20:21.000But the other defendant's lawyer, Miss Merchant, is saying no, it happened before then, so he lied and they lied in their motion to squash the subpoena to testify.
00:20:46.000Miss Willis uh, paid you in cash all the money for the entire trip.
00:20:51.000That was a gift for you for your birthday, correct?
00:20:53.000Yes sir, and i'm sure you probably have the deposit slips where you took the cash and deposited the cash into your account, don't you?
00:21:01.000I did not deposit the cash in my account.
00:21:03.000You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs Willis in cash, do you?
00:21:15.000No sir, not a single solitary one, not a one.
00:21:19.000He's getting a little smug there, Vernon.
00:21:22.000He's getting a little bit, you know, let's just say prideful, dare I say.
00:21:42.000I think uh if, if he did receive 3500 you and I both know that the da is not walking around with just 3500 cash on her then she would have gotten it out her account.
00:21:52.000So let's look at her bank account and let's look at the date and time she made that cash withdrawal, and then I think that can tell you whether or not he's selling truth or she's telling the truth.
00:22:01.000That's why it's so important she take the stand as well and we hear from her.
00:22:23.000At some point the cash has to come from somewhere.
00:22:26.000And, by the way, there's another suspicious thing that Nathan Wade said and I don't want to play, you know, too much humor into this, but he said, oh I, I have all sorts of different sorts of cash deposits because I have different jobs.
00:22:36.000Really I, I don't know, lawyers get paid in cash.
00:22:39.000There's only very, there's very few industries that get paid in cash, and they're not always the most uh, let's say, mainstream.
00:22:47.000Well, I think what you've seen happen over the years uh, not only that, and even purchasing homes you can only like at a closing you can only give Of a certain dollar amount in cash.
00:22:57.000You can't go over a certain threshold because it was money laundering.
00:23:11.000And so you should be able to see where the DA withdrew out of her account $3,500 unless she says, Oh, well, a cousin just gave me $3,500 cash.
00:23:20.000But let's see where they got their cash from.
00:23:22.000So I think that's what we need to hold, Charlie.
00:23:26.000Not until this testimony did we know how she paid.
00:23:30.000We thought it was just a regular reimbursement when he said it was reimbursed.
00:23:33.000This is the first time we heard the term cash.
00:23:36.000And let me tell you, this is gonna, this is another opening in this case.
00:23:40.000It's an opening, and the lies eventually will catch up to them, right?
00:23:44.000So they're trying to lie and to cover their tracks.
00:24:29.000I want to emphasize before even the bank records, what they're talking about is a technical lie, perjury, that the whole ballgame is over according to MSNBC.
00:24:40.000They claim that their relationship started in 2022, but in reality, it predated back to 2019.
00:24:48.000Charlie, when I first heard them filing a motion, meaning the fan of Willis with the testimony of Wade, that they gave a specific date when their relationship started.
00:25:01.000I knew right then that was going to be a problem because more than likely, Merchant, Ashley Merchant, the defendant's attorney, already knew that that relationship had started before then and had that witness on hand because she did more of a drip, drip, drip, as opposed to letting all of her evidence out.
00:26:36.000So if that happens now, you're going to, as a matter of fact, not only was she qualified, her entire office was qualified.
00:26:41.000And right now, a judicial, I should say, a prosecutor counsel is looking on appointing someone else to go further that case.
00:26:50.000They can't find anybody because nobody wants to touch it.
00:26:52.000Now, in this particular case, if she disqualified can be her, her entire office, it's going to go back to that same prosecutorial counsel, and they got to try to find what DA would take this case.
00:27:03.000And I can tell you, you're not going to find a DA and want to put their hands on this, and this thing is going to die of a slow death.
00:27:08.000So, Vernon, let's talk just some of the politics in Georgia.
00:27:11.000It's mission critical that Donald Trump wins the state of Georgia.
00:27:14.000How does this impact the politics going into November?
00:27:18.000Initially, it seemed as if this was going to be a distraction or potentially an impediment or a negative for Donald Trump.
00:27:25.000This is turning, I think, into a positive.
00:27:27.000It looks as if a local DA where there's lots of crime and lots of gang activity that really needs to be focused on and a lot of stuff that needs to really be sorted out.
00:27:37.000How they're distracting with this ridiculous case.
00:27:40.000How does this play out politically in your estimation?
00:27:42.000Well, I think this just adds to the case that President Trump is going to take Georgia.
00:27:47.000Now, because of Biden's actions, or maybe I should say inactions, that's going to help the president win Georgia.
00:28:21.000And even if that moves 2% or 3%, it changes the whole ballgame.
00:28:25.000And, you know, you've been doing some great work, Vernon, in Georgia to really hit the grassroots.
00:28:29.000Just so everyone understands, for all new voter registrations, there's 1.5 to 1 ratio of new Republican to Democrats like clockwork right now in Georgia.
00:28:37.000So it's actually even becoming redder than it was in 2020.
00:28:42.000And so the table is really set for Donald Trump to win back the state of Georgia.
00:28:46.000What do you attribute that change in the black community to?
00:28:51.000Just like in the white community, is your life better off now under Joe Biden versus when you were under President Trump's administration?
00:28:59.000When you look at what interest rates are now, 7%, going back to President Trump's interest rates on his time or term, it was around 3%, 3.5.
00:29:08.000When you look at a cost of a gallon of gas or a gallon of milk or a dozen of eggs, it's much more now than it was back then.
00:29:14.000Inflation has driven up the cost of goods and services, and it was better under the Trump administration.
00:29:20.000And so when you look at that and when you really try to look at Joe Biden having an open board of bringing illegals in here, and they're taking away resource and the actual cash in some mines and giving it to a group of people who never live in this country, you have veterans living under bridges.
00:29:38.000You have others who we have other communities that can use those dollars to revitalize their communities.
00:30:04.000And I see it as sing abuse like many others.
00:30:07.000Joe Biden is not running this country.
00:30:09.000The threat from around the world, the wars that we're engaged in now, all the money going to these foreign countries and could be coming here.
00:30:15.000That's what people are making a decision about, Charlie.
00:30:17.000And that's how President Trump is going to win Georgia.
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00:31:30.000BLM's PAC spent $0 on candidates, $0 on election activities in 2023, but it spent 61% of its money on consulting fees that went directly to a company owned by its treasurer.
00:31:42.000You said all of those Black lives should be indicted.
00:31:49.000I should have said all those Black lives and all those white lives that was involved and that money being phoned in that manner, they all should have been indicted because of the false pretense.
00:31:59.000You know, they got out there and they made this big issue about Black Lives Matter.
00:32:06.000But when you see where that money was phoned, it went back even to the founder.
00:32:10.000And all of a sudden, since Black Lives Matter, but she's living in a million-dollar home in a white community, I guess maybe just her Black life mattered.
00:32:19.000I saw these corporate companies and I saw governments pave the street sports companies, sports, I should say, organizations donating money.
00:33:07.000And by the way, Vernon, imagine if BLM went in and started building charter schools and started to build community centers or anti-violence task forces.
00:33:17.000Instead, it just was this massive grift.
00:33:19.000We were told that all this money was going to be spent for black empowerment.
00:33:24.000Is that, and maybe I'm by no means an expert, is that politically something that could be talked about?
00:33:30.000I can't imagine, you know, if you live in a, let's just say, a lower-income black neighborhood and you see all this money that was supposed to go to impact your community, is there any built-up resentment around that?
00:33:41.000Well, clearly, I think there's been built-up resentment among many people.
00:33:46.000When you look at here's a group that gets out there and gets all this money, but Charlie, you know what?
00:33:50.000I can't solely blame them and lay it all the bland at their feet.
00:33:54.000What did these sports organizations, baseball, basketball, what about these private organizations, the banking institutions, all these other groups who donated all this money to them and just gave them money, didn't hold them accountable.
00:34:09.000So they wouldn't have had money to spend.
00:34:13.000The average grassroots black person didn't give them this money.
00:34:17.000It came from major corporations, those woke corporations.
00:34:20.000And so really, they should be held responsible too because they were ones who fed the fire.
00:34:26.000Yeah, and remember, right in your hometown, Major League Baseball, because of the voting bill that was very vanilla, they canceled the all-star game in downtown Atlanta, which would have been an economic stimulus for black-owned businesses and for black entrepreneurs.
00:34:43.000They moved it and went to Lily White Denver, all because they didn't like a voting bill.
00:35:09.000Look, black vendors, white vendors who invested money for the all-star games so they can help their business.
00:35:15.000Even kids who want to come out and see their famous players, all that was taken from a city or area that's majority African-American out to Denver, Colorado, with a 9% black population.
00:35:26.000And not only that, New York election laws are much more restrictive than Georgia's election laws.
00:35:31.000Why didn't Major League Baseball move its headquarters?
00:35:34.000So there's a lot of land to go around here.